Life in a Mexican Jail

Joe Rogan Podcast check it out the Joe Rogan experience train by day Joe Rogan Podcast by night all day D-Rod free. Yes.ree F man. What a fucking crazy story. So let's let's fill people in. So you were a top contender in the UFC's Walterweight Division, and then somehow or another you won up getting arrested in Mexico. Yeah man right after the uh Kevin Holland fight actually I was set I was in I was celebrating I was over in San Diego um had some drinks and decided you know what let's go to let's go to tj she was you know always a phrase that is regretted or not even when you're in san diego and you're drinking you could walk there shit yeah yeah literally so um decided to go to to TJ for the for the night, you know, go celebrate my win. I was obviously in celebration mode. And I had an ounce of weed in the car, you know, and I've been across the border a hundred times, bro. Never had no issues, never had no problems, never got stopped pulled over. That's the last thing I would even think is that we was legal in Mexico. I thought I thought so too. Like here You thought everything's decriminalized down there. Uh apparently not man. The the the laws are like crazy crazy strict over there, you know, and and I've been in situations before where I could like just offer some money and get out the situation, you know, like five hundred bucks at at the most, you know, they'll just let me on my way. But got pulled over at the border and the border inspection um found found the weed in my in my in my backpack and I I was thinking was gonna be in that in that situation where I could bribe my way out of it 'cause it's Mexico. I've been there before and and and I've been in these situations. And oh man, I thought you know they they took me to jail that night, and uh I was thinking, alright, I'm just gonna be here for the weekend, I'll get out Monday, you know, go to court, and they're like, No, we'll see you in a month. I'm like, a month? You know, like why? It's just we ed, you know what I mean? And um yeah, eight months later. Holy shit. Yeah, dude. Jimmy s could you please look up what the the laws are in Mexico for marijuana? Because man, I was reading something just a few years ago. How they here it goes. Marijuana is decriminalized for personal recreational use in Mexico, but there's no legal commercial market and buying it or selling it remains illegal. For tourists and visitors, possession is strictly prohibited. Wait, what the hell? It's tourists and visitors. So for everybody else, you would be good. Like if you were a Mexican resident, you would have been good. It looks like, according to this . Uh personal limits can possess up to five grams uh and up to twenty-eight grams is decriminalized. How many grams are in a ounce? That's one ounce? Twenty eight? Yeah, so it was a it was approximately twenty eight grams. So approximately you should have been decriminalized. But the thing is I think it's if you live there . The border transporting marijuana, including edibles and concentrates, across the U.S. Mexico border is either in either direction is a serious federal offense. U.S. Customs and Border Protection strictly enforces federal laws prohibiting the import export of cannabis. But wait a minute, that's that's U.S. But what about Mexico? You got arrested by Mexican police, right? Yeah, I got I got uh arrested on Mexican. Either direction. Wow. But but I feel like if you got arrested by Mexico uh anyway, tourists while small possession is technically decriminalized for Mexican residents, the Mexican government explicitly prohibits tourists from possessing or consuming drugs and you could face serious jail time. So that's crazy. Like people would go over there going, hey, no worries. I'm in Mexico. It's decriminalized here. But not for a fucking tourist. Dude, they were trying to give me six years, bro. Oh my God. Six ye ars and I had we had to do all kinds of stuff for me to get out. Did the UFC and get involved? Um Hunter did. Um my management did reach out to uh Hunter and they couldn't do anything. I guess nothing. The reason why somebody who could get a little of that Okay, we'll get into that. We'll get into that. So I learned real quick how corrupt the the system is over there. Everybody's trying to get trying to get paid. And the reason why that I was in there so long is I guess at the time where I got arrested, the the whole uh judicial system was going through an election at the time. So it was new judges. Um that so all the all the judges that were like taking bribes and stuff before they had all got the the they switched out the judges so the new judges were there were like all right we just got here we're not trying to take no you know we're trying to play it by the book and get comfortable so I was supposed to get released in December and and I guess I don't even know if I if I could even really don't get in trouble. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, don't get in trouble. You tell me later. It's very corrupt. It's very corrupt in there. But um, you know , it's it's it's crazy, dude. Like even being in there, um so my whole experience my whole experience in there was like so crazy. How well do you speak Spanish? Uh very I'm I'm I'm a expert now. I'm like fluent because of that experience or before I had already been You're obviously you I had already known I already know Spanish, but being in there it's like became fluent. Yeah. But thank God you could speak it. Imagine if like I got arrested in Master, I'd be fucked. Yeah, so when I first got there, um when I went to court the first time , one of the guards recognized me. And he's like, you know, I'm in handcuffs and shit. And he's like, yo, can I get a picture? I'm like, what ? What? So I'm right there taking pictures with the dogs. So surreal. Yeah. Oh my god, you're fucking top UFC contender in cuffs in jail. The fucking guard wants to take a picture with you. Wow. While I'm in handcuffs and the other inmates were like looking around, like what the fuck? Who is this guy? You know? Because like the the guard was like, Yo, this is this is such and such, you know? So um as we're getting transported to the jail, which was the worst I mean I've been in jail before. I've like I I'm like from the age of fifteen to like twenty three, I was constantly in and out of jail. You know, I'm from LA. You know, um I was, you know, gang member and and you know, living in the hood. And uh this time around was a whole different experience. Um one, I'm in a foreign country, and uh so I get there and they put us like in the in the processing area and the process ing area is like probably uh about this this big and like twenty dudes in there all sleeping on the floor, two dudes per bunk, three three um on a three bunk th three levels bunks and um I was there for like the first like the first ten days and it was hell bro it was the worst like I had I don't know what kind of bugs there was in there, but they were like biting up my whole body. I had like like just just bite I don't know what it was, dude. It was like I don't know. Bed bugs probably something like that. Yeah, probably probably bed bugs or something. And uh DraftKings Sports is live in all fifty states. Yes, that means you. Two teams left, one trophy, every possession, every fourth quarter swing, every clutch shot. The DraftKings Sports app is now live in your state. 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Look direct at storyhotels.com right when I had first got there, one of the inmates that saw that seen the guards taking pictures of me was like we were right there conversating the whole time and he he had he had just got released from there but he had it five years he was out for like two weeks got arrested with the gun and then came back so he's like hey I'm com I'm it's like I'm uh I'm uh try to get you out of here you know and um over there the guards had tried to charge me seven grand bro to get me out of that to get me out of that cell and to move me into like a better a better place because over there if you got if you got some money you'll be alright you know and um so right before that happened the dude that was like, yo, I'm gonna come back for you, bro. Don't even worry about it. So how's this work? Does the guard come up to you and go, hey, I can get you in a cell, but it'll cost you 7,000? Yeah. They come up to you and tell you that? Yeah. So the dude that I that was that was that I had got to the the prison with, he comes back down and he's like, Yeah, he's like, hey um the guards came, they pulled me out and then they pull me they bring me to a whole different like section of of um of the prison third the third floor and the second building and I go up there and I'm escorted by the guards and there's like a curtain it's like a a a curtain covering like the tear. And I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Like, why is there a curtain? And I get in there and they pull me to this dude and this dude's like, oh you're you're a UFC fighter. You know it turns out the dude's like the head of the cartel, you know, like a cartel leader and he's like he's like, oh he's like, I want to just show you around a little bit, let you know how how we're running things over here, you know? Kind of just gave me the rundown and uh this dude had it made. You know, I I get there and there's TV's in the fucking cell. Dude has a PlayStation. He has like like a whole bunch of just all the amenities you can think of. You know um he's like, yeah he,'s like showing me around and shit, kind of kind of showing me off. He's like hey there guys look look at this guy, look at this guy. You know, he's a UFC fighter. You know, and I'm like, alright, you know, what's going on here? You know? And like, you know, cause it's jail, dog, you know. I I'm like if s anything happens, I'm fucking use all my experience to survive this motherfucker, you know? Right, right. And so he's like just pretty much give me the rundown. He's like, yo, uh, he's like, I run it here. This is like pretty much, you know, our our this is our home, you know. So that dude was facing some charges. He got released and um he was he was facing some charges of um him and his like thirteen dudes. He got arrested with his whole crew. Him and thirteen dudes were all in a tier. So he had all his his wh wholeole squad with them and they had got arrested for dressing up as um like government officials or like military dudes and they would go like raid dope houses and and and take their drugs whatever. So they had got all arrested for that and they were facing some serious time. And and I'm I'm over here like two, I just got for arrested for a fucking ounce of weed, bro. This is crazy. He's like, oh no, you'll be out soon, don't you worry about it. But if you want, we could get you we can get you like accommodated and you could come up here with us. You know, you like you'd be my cellmate or whatever, you could be wherever you want. And I'm like, oh right. He's like, yeah, but uh it's gonna cost you a little bit of money. I was like, Oh yeah, how much? Like three thousand and I looked at the guard, the guard that was trying to charge me seven, I was like He said seven he's like, Nah nah nah nah nah He's trying to get more extra money out of you, like, but you do gotta like pay to get up here and like kinda like pay rent a little bit, you know, to the guards . So I'm like, Yeah, yeah. So I'm like, all right, cool. So immediately I wanna I was like, yeah, let's do it. So they give me like this brand new like Nike tracksuit. Oh shit. Yeah, and I'm like, alright, he's like well come up here tomorrow. So I get there , um I get there and then he's like, yeah, just be my soulmate. So I um I pretty much ended up being like this guy's like I ended up getting the the feeling like I was like his protection kind of like or like you know like when we would go to yard I just be like he'd be like hey walk with me like and I'll kinda like just I got the impression like like like alright I'm his cellmate you know um like I got this guy's back, you know, he got my back, I got his. And I really trusted him, you know, and and and that's one hard thing to do in jail. But like you catch vibes off people real easy. You know, and and and yeah, dude, it was just a crazy ass experience, dude. I ended up um we ended up working out with the with the working it out with the with the guards to to get me some fucking boxing gloves dude I ended up getting some boxing gloves in there um some some mitts and it just so happened that the dude that I was cellmates with he had a little bit of boxing experience so he he had been a boxer before so I was like oh perfect you know and he actually knew how to hold pads and stuff so so I ended up spending this whole time like tell me you didn't he wanted to uh no no no no no that that's how it goes south. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad you're smart. You know what I'm saying? Like when she said boxing gloves, I'm like, oh please tell me this doesn't end the way I think it ends. No, no, yeah. Yeah, we we ended end uped up actually being really cool. And um yeah, dude, I ended up pretty much spending this whole time like in a boxing fight camp, you know? Oh wow. Yeah, I remember I I even I even made like a a makeshift double end bag. What I did was like I I balled up like a bunch of plastic bags like really like like made it like real tight and like so it's like hard. Threw it in a sock. Um I was able to to to buy um from the guards like uh bungee cord yeah bungee cord and then set that up and oh nice yeah and I made a heavy bag because they had like these big gallons of water and and I I got the gallon of water and I wrapped it with like the um the mat from the from the bed. So I was and I just threw it in a bag and I and we had like a pull-up bar in in our in our cell and I made a I made a heavy bag out of that and then whenever we would go to yard, I would just spend the whole time running that yard. And I was just trying to do everything I could do to try and stay in shape, man. And it just time went time went on. The time went on the time went on. And uh what kind of food did they get you It was all junk food, dude. Still? Yeah. Yeah. Um, it was all junk food like chips, noodles, damn. Soda, you know, water , condiments. So no protein. None. None none. None whatsoever. And I didn't think about that part. You know, because I was working out like crazy and I was getting shredded. But as time went on , my mother like I like when I got out, I was skinny as hell, bro. I was skinny as hell, and and the only source of protein would probably be soy. Jesus Christ. Yeah, so it'll give like couldn't you bribe someone to bring in some fucking meat if you're the cartel? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well he that's the thing. Like this was crazy. Like so towards the end, towards like the the final end of it, um, I guess the guards started c racking down on on like a lot of the stuff that was going on. So we started to to lose a lot of those amenities that we were getting in the beginning. And uh and I I was just when I got out, I was just uh malnourished as hell, bro. I'll show you a picture later, like of what I looked like when I got out. Completely different person. How much weight did you lose? Um I didn't really lose that much weight, but it was just like more my muscles were just Were you thinking about going to fifty five? Were you like, damn, I might be able to make fifty five starve . I've made one fifty five one one fifty five one time in my career. Dude you made fifty five that must have been hell. Yeah it was my it was the worst fight camp ever. Um it was all based on losing the weight. Losing the weight, losing the weight. And then I was just so I remember after the I made one fifty five, I didn't even want to go to the gym for like a a month, bro. I was like, dude, I need a this this like my body was just done, bro. Yeah, you're killing your body. Yeah. What is this ? Oh yeah, that's some of the workouts I was doing while I was in prison. But no protein, unfortunately. Yeah, but no protein. So I was getting pretty shredded like when in in in that like period in time, that was when we had like a lot of like we had food and and everything was cool. And if you notice. Oh, look at that. The double M bag. That's nice, dude. Yeah, dude. And like you can see the TV in the back, right on the with the PlayStation, but I mean it wasn't Dude, you're looking good. Yeah. Tighten those hands up nice, I bet. Yeah, man. It was just like a uh it was like a whole experience. And it was crazy because this guy he'd be like, you know, the guards will come and be like, hey, op uh leave my door open, yeah. And the guards will actually leave this door open. So like we were able to like walk around the tier and go talk to other people like me. I I I kept to myself a lot. Like I've been in jail like a ton of times before and I learned I learned uh easily that you know you'll you'll you'll go like along uh you'll you'll get by if you just mind your own business and not get involved in shit. Mm-hmm and not get involved with things so like I would just stick to myself, you know, and and and just you know, just get my work out on and and and avoid trouble. Avoid trouble, you know. But it was crazy to see first hand how the cartel operates. And it's crazy, man. They got their hands in everything over there. Of course.. Everything over there You know, there w there was thirty seven assassinations in Mexico last election. Thirty seven. Yeah. Different political people. And I was talking to Ed Calderon, do you know who he is? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's Cartel going after them and stuff like that. And he was essentially saying that. Like the entire judicial system, all the mayors, everyone, if they get in, they're cartel members. Like no one gets in. No one is a no one is a mayor unless they're in the cartel. And when they're getting assassinated, it's uh cartel assassinations. It's one cartel, you know, wants their guy in and another cartel wants their guy in and they just shoot the other dude. Yeah. Thirty-seven. Imagine if that was in America. Thirty seven the last like the midterms. Imagine during the primary if thirty-seven people got assassinated. We'd be like, what the fuck has happened to America? The final round of basketball season is here and only The DraftKings Sports app is now available in all fifty states and includes all markets. You're in on games at the speed of sports. Sweat every possession of the series all in one place with one app. New DraftKing customers sign up with the code Rogan spend five bucks to get two hundred in rewards within twenty one days. That's code Rogan in partnership with DraftKings. The crown is yours. Bet with DK Sports Book. Gambling problem, call 1-800-GAMBLER, 1-800-MYRESET. New York, call 877-8 Hope and Wyre, text Hope and Y. 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But over there , you know, I guess it's just another thing. Killing killing over there. The cartel have more money, more power, more influence. Yeah. And it's crazy how like murders just they're not even that big of a deal over there. You know? While I was in there I n I I n I I I was reading or I saw that Mexico has the Guinness World Record for missing peop missing persons. Holy shit dude. Yeah. Yeah, and it was crazy. There's so many like it was so many hit men in there. It was crazy. But you know , I didn't I didn't have I didn't get no shit from nobody, you know. Everybody was like cool as hell. Well that's awesome. Well you're an easy to get along with dude. Yeah, yeah. Luckily, yeah. Did anybody ask you to train them? Actually, yeah, dude, there's some dogs in there, man. I bet. There's this one guy in particular. I'm like, dude, you gotta fucking start fighting you like and he's like he's he was uh one of one of the military dudes and he's just a little fucking machine dude and in the time that I was there he got he got really good really quick you know and I'm like dude you gotta like go to the gym down in TJ uh that interim gym I had I had mentioned like yo even when I got when I when I got released um that uh man we we did a whole lot of things to try to get me out man um there's a ton of fighters even try to pull some strings for me like Yaya Rodriguez , you know, uh Brandy Moreno, he's from TJ and and and nobody nobody could help me out man. Everybody tried to pull strings for me. And nobody came up with a number did they eventually what was how much what was the number? Can you tell? Uh I don't want you to get in trouble. Uh nah. No, don't get in trouble. Yeah, but it was talk to me later. It was hefty. It was I bet. It was not cheap. I bet. It was not cheap at all. I bet. Yeah. Everybody wants to get paid. Yeah. Yeah, it was crazy. Uh crazy experience, dude. And um to get out of jail , you know, and then and then now I have this fight, I I'm headlining headlining um UFC Serbia, first time in Serbia, fighting Euros medic. When is that fight? August first. Nice. Yeah, to get out of to get to go through all that and then and then to have this opportunity is just crazy. And to be here, to be here is just is just crazy, man, because I didn't think I was gonna get I I wasn't sure if I was gonna get out, man. I thought good reason. A lot of people don't. Yeah. Yeah, the United States prison system is fucked too. But nothing like Mexico's. Everybody that I've talked to that is in any experience in Mexican jail and they're like, dude, it's not good. Yeah, no, man. Uh it was it was crazy, but I just can't believe the cartel can't sneak meat in. We did sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes. Yeah, we did some I we had gr they would bring those groceries, bro. Oh really? Yeah. I b because that's the first thing that I would want, man. I would like, look, what do we gotta do? These guards. What gotta Yeah, man. Especially as hard as you work out. Yeah, I was I was working out like two, three, three hard, hard workouts a day, you know. I'll do um so I'm kinda programmed like like to to just work out. You know, I think I think from my prior jail experiences before the only positive thing that I think that helped me in that whole everything that I've that I've been through is like when you're in jail like I personally I'm like I would I would think like dude, you you you gotta be strong, you gotta be able to defend yourself. You're gonna like I that's that's my whole reason for for staying in shape, you know. When I started um doing MMA, it was just to to to be able to defend myself, you know, in in situations like if I ever did go to jail. You know, and the only thing that I positive that I that I took from that is like when I got when I when I would get releas ed from prison prior , um, I just wanna work out. I'm I'm already programmed to to just work out all day, you know. So once I found MMA, I was like, oh this is perfect, you know? And and how old were you when you first started training? Twenty-five. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Turn into a UFC contender. That's very impressive. Not a lot of guys started late. Did you have any sports experience before that? None, bro. Nothing. None. That's crazy. None. But I had I had been in no bullshit though. I had been in probably around 200 street fights already including all my jail experience you know when i was in juvenile hall i was a straight knucklehead bro like i was fighting like every other day um and it was just it became just fun. Just fun. Like if if like you were like a a like a tough looking dude of like, hey what's up, man wanna scrap or what bro? Like you know I'll just he's like, why? Like, 'cause you're big bro, I just wanna fight you you Yeah and and with no training you had no training at all? No no training man just just just wanting just want to learn how to fight. Just want to be by fighting. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a crazy way to learn. Yeah, dude. Just and like dude, you can't I mean like imagine getting a fight with your cellmate. Like that's some crazy shit. That's crazy shit. Yeah. You gotta sleep together. Sleep with one eye open, bro. Like you sleep at all Yeah. And um yeah, so that's that's the only experience I had prior to to starting MMA. And then I remember I stopped going to jail when I was like twenty three. When I stopped going to jail, I started having kids, I'm like, alright, gotta start I gotta stop gangbang because I used to think going to jail was cool. Really? I used to think it was cool because you get out and you just have like a little more respect. Like like I thought I thought it was cool. I thought like oh going to jail makes you a badass, you know. But once I started having kids, I realized like, alright, I gotta take care of I got human beings, I gotta fucking I gotta take care of and raise, you know. So I started looking for every any possible way to try to live a decent life, and I try tried everything man I've had every job we could think of and but I've even had good jobs before and I've lost them you know by just being a knucklehead and going back to jail and I remember I got out of prison one time and my cousin hits me up and he's like, yo, uh, come to my house, bro. We're gonna we're gonna watch uh some fights and barbecue and stuff I was like, all right, yeah, dope. And I was like, who's fighting? He's like, um, some dude rampage . I'm like, who the fuck's Rampage ? So I get there, and that's when Forrest Griffin had fought. Um, Rampage won the light heavyweight title. And I'm like, yo , this is amazing , bro. And then I fell in love with Chuck Liddell and I'm like, dude, this he's just like me, bro. He's like knocking dudes out. You know , and then I just obsessed with it. I just obsessed with it. So that was your first exposure to MMA? I had seen it before, like when it was Tank Abbott. Oh, early days. Yeah, in the early days, but it never caught my attention. Like because I had always been a boxing fan, I'm a huge boxing fan and and I grew up watching boxing like um all of like majority of my family functions growing up they were all boxing events like Oscar de La Jolla, Mike Tys on, Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather. And I was just, I loved boxing, you know. And I remember, I mean, I did have a little bit of experience before going into MMA because when I lived in the hood, I would always have boxing gloves and I would always make my homies fight each other. Like when we're all hanging out like, hey, you go with him, you go with him. Because like, you know, we're all boys and I want them to like I always wanted them to to to uh in case in case anything happens, the case wherever all out and we get in a rumble with somebody or anything like that, like I try to make my homies more tougher, you know, 'cause like hey you guys gotta have my back, I got yours. And that's just that's that's just something we just did, you know, or like we'll we'll just go body shots, body punches, you know, right, and just fight each other. So that's kind of my background, bro, to be honest with you. And and yeah, man, I just I just I just carried that into the into the gym when I first went. I remember What was the first gym you went to? It's called it was called Tap Out in downtown LA. Okay. At the time I think that um I I was training with Eddie Bravo and and he had moved in tenth last so that's when I first when I first started I wanted to box. And I I remember the tap out gym very well. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was a great gym. Yeah. And I remember when I first started going there, I was working construction. I was I was working on a on a high rise in downtown LA and and I would um pass by every day. I was like, man, I want to go in there. You know, but I never like would go in there. I'll just pass by and I'll get home and I'll talk to my bed. I'm like, man, there's this gym called Tapot. I really wanna go, you know? She's like, Oh yeah, but I was talking about all the time. But I never had like I don't know. You know, it's a kind of nervous. It's kind of nervous going walking into a gym for the first time and you don't know like what to expect or but I was just a fan. And so I walked. Uh, actually , the the way I got started was it was it was our anniversary , and as a gift, she gave me a gym membership, and then I went to the gym and the the coaches were like, yo , dude, like who is this guy? You know? But when I first went in there, I was like so raw and just so like street fight, street fighting experience but I had power. I had some power and um you know I just fell in love with it and the the the coaches were like even the days I wouldn't show up because when in the beginning of it I was still like still had that knucklehead mentality. I'll still be out partying with my friends or not show up to the gym and coaches will actually call me like, yo, work, where are you at? You need to be in the gym. You need to be training. So I guess what what helped me in the beginning was my actually my coaches like really noticing that I had like a talent, you know, I had I had potential. And I just obsessed with it man and fell in love with the whole training experien ce and and I remember my first time trying jujitsu it was a skinny fucking skinny dorky looking dude's like hey you need to you need to come train jujitsu man come train jujitsu I was like na,h. Because I remember like before I watched it, you know, I was like, oh man, wrestling's gay, dude. I was like, dude, wrestling is gay. Nobody trying to watch that. You know, and then obviously like you go through that experience of like, all right so the skinny dude is like, Come on man, just try it out. I bet you can't you know, I bet you I could make you tap or whatever. Like, nah, nah, he went and strangled me. You know, I'm like, oh hell nah, nah I hate losing, bro. So I was like, and there's the there's there's two different kinds of people. There's people that will get their ass whooped and just be like, nah, this ain't for me. Or um you get your ass whooped and you're like, oh I would never want that to happen again. You know, so I would show up It's amazing how little tiny dudes can fuck you up. Dude, that's the last thing I expected. I was like, what? Jiu Jitsu's the only thing that like, you know, in martial arts movies, there was always this myth that the little guy could fuck up all the bigger guys. Yeah. But with striking, that's hard. Power's real, size is real, mass is real. There's just too you know, too many variables. If a guy knows how to throw a good one, two, you might be fucked. He hits you in the clinch, you can't get away from his clinch, he's too strong, he clubs you, you 're fucked. But jujitsu, man, there's no lucky punches in jujitsu, and that's what's crazy when a little guy just annihilates you. It's so humbling. My first experience, uh, it was a dude who was a purple belt I was a white belt and uh he was my size. I was like this dude's my size. Like this isn't that a bigger dude. This is gonna be, you know, competitive. Not he just raped me. Just did whatever the fuck he wanted to do to me. Arm barred me, triangled me. And I remember leaving going, I am so delusional. I had this idea in my head, you know, that I knew how to fight. And then until I started doing jujitsu, I was like, Oh, I don't know anything. I'm helpless. Like completely helpless. Yeah. But you know, like you, the the the smart thing to do like what you did is just go, I want to learn that. You know, and you having the courage to do that, uh, you know, especially as a guy who didn't have any martial arts experience at all. Just like throw yourself into it. It's very difficult to do, man. And especially at twenty five. Yeah. 'Cause by twenty-five like John Jones had already been a UFC champion and defended it multiple times,. You know it's like by the time you're starting out, so many guys are like in the middle of their career. Yeah. This spring Uber Eats has you covered. Whether you're celebrating mom, dad, or your favorite grad, not all of us are great planners, and with the Uber Eats gift hub, you don't have to be. 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Um and was like why I work so hard is like I feel like I have to catch up to these dudes that have been doing this their whole life. You know, like like dudes have been in the gym since they were kids doing karate and there is a thing though about having a lot of street fights. There's a mental edge to being in a lot of conflict and a lot of combat. One of the things I've always noticed about you when you fight, you're very calm. Like when you get in there, you're very relaxed. Yeah. Like and it's like life experience. Yeah, I just feel like in an MMA fight it's it's a safe environment. Like believe it or not, to me, it's safe. Right. You know, cause I've been in I've been in situ because if anything goes wrong, the rest right there, like, all right there, that's it. It's done, you know. This is a fair fight. You know, uh I've been in situations where I don't know if I'ma live. Right. You know, if I don't survive this, I might die. Yeah. You know? And and I think that I carry that a lot, you know, while while while I fight and that's why I look so calm because um I've been I'm calm and hectic sit like a lot of Yeah, it's not the worst thing you've experienced. That's not for a lot of fighters, it's the most dangerous thing they've ever experienced. Yeah. And they step into that octagon, they close that door and they're looking across the st octagon at another train killer, like, oh boy. Like this is the scariest thing that's ever happened to them. Yeah. So there's a mental benefit that you have for having all those street fights and even though you didn't start until late, man, the mental game might be most of fighting. You know Yeah, man, when I when when I step in there I'm just I'm just happy to be there, you know. Like I I I'm lucky to be out here. I'm lucky to be have my freedom. I'm lucky to be alive. You know, so when I'm when I'm walking out to a fight, like I just feel I just feel happy, dude. I'm just I'm just it's just happy happiness like you know 'cause while I'm backstage I'm like thinking how did I get here dude? You know like I'm just how the fuck did I do this? How did I make it this far, you know? Right. And you know, like a situation like like this, like where I'm fresh out of fresh out of jail, you know, and and and I'm like, dude, like Main event in Serbia against a guy from Serbia is crazy, bro. But you know what? Just live live that shit, man. Like, like I told myself like dude, this is your opportunity to to tell like to like this shit's a movie, bro. Like my life is crazy. It is a movie if you think about it. I mean, very few people live that life. In uh jail many times, locked up in Mexico for eight months, never knowing if you're gonna get out. Next thing you know, you're headlining a UFC card. Yeah, man. Sitting here Main event. Yeah, sitting here on the Joe Rogan experience, you know, telling my story is just you know uh where's Euros Medic ranked? Is he above you or both he's number thirteen? What are you at? Fifteen. Yeah, so both of you guys top contenders. I'm surprised throughout that whole process they kept me in the rankings. Well, good respect to them, you know. Also, they probably realized you were probably working out in jail. Yeah. Yeah, man. But I mean well, it's not you shouldn't be punished for something like that. You get stuck in a crazy situation. Yeah, man. Especially if you're coming from California where weed's legal. Everybody gets confused. You know, you you have that weed in California. Everybody it's everywhere. It's totally legal. That's why it didn't even cross my mind. It didn't even cross my mind. I know hey, we can get in trouble for this. That's crazy. I would have never known those laws. Because I heard that it was decriminalized. I thought, oh, they don't they got other shit to worry about. They're you know, they got cartel problems and fentanyl problems. They don't give a fuck if you bringing in weed. Yeah. Well now now I have a part of of the process of me getting out is like I had to get like now I have dual citizenshi p in Mexico. Now you do? Yeah. Because of getting out? No, no. Um my lawyers um it was a part of me getting out. So like when you pulled up the um the the uh decriminalized the laws for the laws for citizens. So that that was a process of Oh, so you became a citizen, so the law was less for you.. Yeah That's hilarious. So it was a ton of stuff that we had to do, man. Bro, that is a crazy loophole. Yeah. Yeah. So now people ask me. Damn, everybody should become a citizen of Mexico. Yeah, man. I ain't never going back to Mexico. I'm not going back for a while, bro. I don't I cannot see myself . I don't even want to go back. So um especially since I released the footage of me working out in prison and stuff, like I don't ever want to go to Mexico and and for any reason they're like get his ass, you know, and bring it back over. Yeah. Yeah, and they probably would too. Yeah. At the very least try to get more money out of you. Definitely. Especially after headlining a UFC card. Yeah. And on top of that, like like um like releasing that footage was like definitely like a no no. But since how did you do they all have cell phones inside? Yeah, so we had we had cell phones. Yeah. So were you texting your friends? You could text your lawyer, all that shit? Yeah. Did you worry that your text would be intercepted ? No, no, not at all. 'Cause uh I would text everybody or call everybody on on WhatsApp and I guess Yeah, it's encrypted. Yeah, it's encrypted. And so when you're doing all this and filming all this you just saved the footage and then when you got out? No, I I would would s end it. I would send it to like my friends. So I I sent it to one of my buddies and I was like, yo, save all this stuff. Cause when I get out, this is gonna this is gonna be it's gonna be big, bro. You know? Well I'm glad they didn't got out. Yeah. Yeah , really trust your friends because that could have been fucked. Yeah, man, and the whole time, like no one knew what no one knew where I was at, no one knew what I was going on, and there was a couple rumors going around that I was backpacking in Peru. Another one was was one of my buddies like it's crazy how the internet believes anything, bro. Like there's people thought I was building wells in Rwanda. Like one of my buddies said that. He's like, Oh, he's building wells in Rwanda doing God's work. And like people ran with that. Like, hey, actually people when I got released, uh, right away they were like, oh, Kevin Haaland bailed him out. Kevin Haaland bailed him out to get a rematch. And people believe that. That's hilarious. That's so funny. It must have been so weird . So when you're inside, did you did they have the internet? Would they could they watch fights? Yeah, yeah. Actually, um so they ended up putting like these cell phone like scramblers like these towers that like mess up the signal we ended up getting uh what's that the that that uh Tesla thing, Starlink. Mm-hmm. end Weed up getting Starlink. Oh my god, that's insane. Yeah, we ended up getting Starlink and had Wi-Fi for a little while. And then I remember we ended up losing all that st uff because um Like every every once in a while they'd be like, Hey the guards will come like hey uh they're gonna come do inspections and you know so they would like hide everything. And I remember this one time they hit everything and they were like, Oh we we're not gonna get back to you guys. So we ended up that like I'd say like by by the fifth month w uh that's when like they've really started cracking down and stopped bringing us like the extra food and the food that like the prison food in there dude is it's the worst it's terrible terrible um tortillas like every with every meal, like five tortillas, rice or beans, and like some kind of like soup. But the soup is pretty much there's no meat in it. It's it's um majority of it's like potatoes and carrots. You know, like So your only protein you're getting from beans. Yeah. Phew. Wow. Yeah. And it was just horrible, dirty, unsanitary. What's the first thing you ate when you got out. First thing I ate when I got out was um a double western bacon cheeseburger from Carl's Jr. Must have been the best ever. Yeah, man, and I couldn't even finish it because at the time like my stomach was so I I got I like I got full as hell man like I it was crazy and um man I was so skinny when I got out, bro. It's crazy. So like this whole time I just been like trying to to just book back up, you know. So what did you wet? Did you wear yourself when you got out? Uh when I weighed I weighed myself when I got out and I normally walk around around 200 and I was like around 18 0. You know, but I looked horrible, bro. Like I looked like I just cut weight. I looked like I was like I'm sure. Yeah, I was it was horri ble. But it was it was like I wasn't shredded or nothing. I was just had no muscle definition and it was just it was bad, bro. And I remember um when I first got out, man, I was like thinking like alright I tried like when I got out I hit the like I got out ready to just like alright I'm getting my life back I'm gonna I'm gonna uh train my ass off bro I was so out of shape, I was so out of shape, bro. And and I was like really discouraged at the time, you know. I was like, dude, I don't know I think my fucking career is over, dude. I don't know if I'm gonna how am I gonna come back from this? You know, I was so out of shape, and that's crazy 'cause you're working out so much in jail. Yeah, but it was just um because of of the lack of of nutrition. Yeah, nutrition. I was like so malnutrited. My body was just destroyed. Yeah, it was it was horrible bro and uh I'most thought like dude I can't do this shit anymore dude like I'm like I'm not gonna I think my career might be over, you know? And um I was just in my head about it for a little bit and then and then you know like I was like nah you know I'm I'm a fucking soldier dude I I could I could bounce back from this and and you know I just I just really believed that through hard work you, know I,'ll I'll get back to to my old self and now I'm I feel great dude. How long did it take before you start feeling normal ? About uh I'm barely starting to feel like a hundred percent now. Now. Yeah. And when did you get out? Um it's been almost two months. Wow, that's not a lot of time. Yeah. And when is this uh the fight is August first? Yeah, it's another No two months. Yeah. That's good. Yeah, and I feel I feel good now. That's crazy though. It takes you two months and then now you're back you look normal, like physically. Yeah. You look healthy. So it took you that time to just put the weight back on and get your muscle tone back and all that shit. That's a good thing though that you were always in shape so you bounce back quicker. You have muscle memory. Yeah and actually I've honestly been enjoying the the pro this whole process of of like when when I first got out, I could only run like a mile and I was dying, bro. And through through each run, I could see my progress. I'm like, okay, I'm getting better. Okay, I'm getting better. And like I'm in love with it right now. I'm I'm in love with look getting better and better and better 1% every single day. You know I truly believe believed that through the work and and to trust the work that I have ahead of me and I honestly think that by the time the fight gets here I'm gonna be in perfect peak shape. That's awesome. Yeah. What a crazy comeback story. Yeah man. You know? Yeah, and and it it's it's it's really just like a a a really deep personal one for me because from what where when I when I first got out to now it's just like it's it's crazy. It's crazy how how I c the body can bounce back and like just get back into shape, you know. Well it's crazy the mind too. I mean y you must be so thankful. Just every time you're training, yeah, you might be tired, but man, you must be so thankful that you're out and free and then you're working towards something big. You know, you got a big fight coming up and what a blessing. Yeah, man, and I'm just em I'm just embracing the whole process, you know, and I'm just you know, I'm I'm all for it. I'm all in. Actually going to to jail and going through all that actually made made me appreciate and value everything that I have going on right now. So so I'm just like so grateful and so thankful that I even have this opportunity and just signed a new contract with the UFC six more fights nice and and now I'm I'm main event it's just crazy, dude. Dude, if you go on to win the title from here, how crazy would that be? Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. That would be crazy. And you know you beat Med ic, you're in the top thirteen, you're close to the top ten, a few fights later, anything can happen in this sport. Yeah, and I would even tell dudes like that, like realistically, bro, like I can like in four or five fights go like four or five fights I could be fighting for the championship, you know? Maybe even less. In this sport. Yeah, I mean if if I go out there and smoke this guy then and it's gonna be it's gonna be so much even bigger just because of the whole experience that I went through. And like man he got out of jail and just fucking knock this dude out and you know why not? Like why why not bro,? You know, why why can't I be that guy? Like you hear stories all the time of of these incredible stories of people that become champions from nothing and then been through all kinds of stuff like why not me, bro? Listen, you never fucking know. You never fucking know. That's the crazy thing about this sport. Yeah. You know anything can happen, dude. Yeah, I mean you got Makachev as the title holder, which is you know, one of the baddest motherfuckers to ever do it. That's part of the problem. Yeah. You know, the he's got the opposite life. That's a guy that's been disciplined and training his entire life. You know, never never fucked around, no drugs, no drinking, no nothing , just discipline. Yeah. It's tough sell. It's different, different levels, man. Yeah. There's different levels to it. How old do you know? Thirty-nine. Yeah. Yeah. So that's got like a couple more years left, man. So that's why it's crazy while they'd stole eight months of like very valuable time. Yeah. And that's one that's one thing that that's one the number one thing that I was like, man , like I'm running out of time, bro. You know, I don't got I don't got a lot of time left, you know, so getting out and like I said, like I'm just I'm just taking it a lot more serious , you know? I'm sure. Where are you training now? So right now I'm in I'm in Vegas training over at uh the PI at Extreme at Extreme Courtour and right now and and Freestyle I'm in May while I'm in Vegas and uh while I'm in California, I go to classic classic fight team, uh training at over at Ten ori and Tim Planet . You know, so I'm just but right now, uh I'm I'm in Vegas right now. It's so much so much easier. LA's crazy, dude. I like I'm on the road when I'm in LA it's just I'm on the road all fucking day. LA traffic is just a nightmare. So that's why like uh I'm in Vegas right now because everything's so close together and so convenient and and it's also so high level. There's so much high level training in Vegas. Yeah and the PI is an amazing resource for fighter s. You know, as far as nutrition, cutting weight. I mean they'll get your meals for you, they get your supplements for you, they make sure that everything is w n you know, safe for sport approved so you don't have to worry about testing positive for anyt Yeah, right now it's a little bit crazy because um they're they're they're letting like the slap fight guys go there and the zoof boxing guys, I think. Yeah. So yeah, those guys are are using the slap flight guys train? I don't know how they train, like how do you how do you train for that, bro? You know? They do neck workouts. I don't know I guess that's it. Yeah. Right? Swinging things with your arms. Yeah. You know? I guess like cable machines. Like you know what I'm saying? Like get a cable machine out of your wrist and do this l a bunch of times. Yeah. So they have um at the PI they have like this a thing that gauges your um your power and your strike. And th those they use that they use that all the time. The power slap guys do? Oh that's so silly. Yeah. And and then also the Zoofa boxing guys are there too. So so it's a little it's a little bit hectic right now. It's like a a lot going on. Yeah, I could imagine. Yeah. Power slap guys, that's a different thing. I've never been to one of those. I hear either I hear you have to go to one to like enjoy it . You have to be on acid. Yeah . I feel I feel like letting someone just swing on you. And the thing is like if you get the first swing, you have a giant advantage. Yeah. The first swing is a crazy advantage. That's dangerous, bro. That's yeah. Just getting you know, just getting whacked in some of these guys are knocked out, yeah. Oh a hundred percent man. It's not less powerful than a punch. You know, this is the idea that you're slapping like this, that's not what they're hitting with the palm of the hand. Yeah right on your fucking jaw. Yeah it's super powerful. You can only take so many of those in your whole life. You know and you're lining up for those. Yeah and I mean you can imagine like the nerve damage on your face too. Well, I mean look I',m for whatever you wanna do. You wanna jump BMX bikes, you wanna ride bulls, you wanna power slap, have at it. This is America. Have a good time. Yeah. But it seems like at an MMA gym, it should be MMA fighters. I don't I mean the boxing is probably a good crossover. Like you could probably get some good work with some of those guys. Yeah. You know, and then also seeing high level boxer train is good. It's great for your technique. It's great for just r raising the level up in the gym. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's it's it's it's really dope. I love I love the PI man uh and Vegas in general, like there's so many killers out there, you know. It's one of the best places in the world for MMA training. You got extreme couture. Think of how many killers are training out of there. You know. You got uh there's there's so many you got syndicate. There's so many places, man. Yeah. It's incredible. So much jujitsu. Robert Drysdale's there. There's so many guys that are there. Tenth Planet there. There's so much jujitsu there. There's so much MMA there. I mean, if you're a fighter, it's like one of the best places to live. Yeah, I remember when I first when I first went out there I was in about 2020 uh I went out I was I was on Cowboys Camp and uh he went out there and and and that's when I saw firsthand all the all the the amenities from the PI and like all the the whole Vegas experience and so I decided to move out there. So I lived out there for like two years and and I've just been going back and forth ever since. It's worth living there just for the PI. Yeah. You know, and then y there's so much Muay Thai there. There's so much everything. There's so much great training there. Yeah, yeah. There's there's a ton of there's a ton of gyms like you said, man. Yeah, it might not be there might not be another city in the country that's like Vegas in that regard. Yeah. Think about boxing. You got Floyd Mayweather's gyms there, which is crazy, right? There's a bunch of other gyms there. You got high level boxers there. You got high level Muay Thai guys there. You know, one kick Nick has his place there. There's so much high level training in Vegas. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Summer is great, isn't it? It's the perfect season for adventures, but it can also be pretty exhausting, juggling, chaotic schedules, and trying to make the most of summer. That's why it's important to take a moment for you. Go out for a weekend without planning anything and just have fun. Or relax at home. 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Like if you're a fighter, you have a place that has all the recovery stuff, all the like the high-end top-notch recovery stuff, cold plunge, saunas, all the all the everything. Like all physical therapy supplements they when that when I found out they make food for you I was like this is crazy. Yeah I love that part. I love I love I'm always I'm always there. You know, you could go there order whatever you want, you know, and just like sure, steak and steak and rice, you know. Yeah, well they just want you to be healthy, which is makes sense. Just it's uh so smart that they did that. When they did that I was like, what are they doing? Dumping all this money in that? Who's gonna go there? And then when I went there I was like, oh I get it. They went all out. They went all out. And it's just if you want your fighters to be at the very best to compete in the UFC, what better way than provide the best world clas s facility on earth. Yeah. And then to put it right there in Vegas. And now they have a bunch of 'em, right? They have one in Mexico, they have one in I think they have one in Singapore . Yeah. They have a bunch of 'em. It's awesome. So smart. Such a smart move to You know what would have been crazy if you were on the White House card? If you got really dude, that's gonna be major, dude. That's crazy. I wish it was inside, but it is gonna be crazy. It's so funny watching people lose their mind over it. You know, in all in all sorts of different ways. Yeah. Lose their mind over it because they hate the political situation in this country, lose their mind over it because they feel like it's a waste of money. Why are they spending so much money? This country's in in in debt. We got problems. Why are we having a fight? And then other people are like, fuck yeah. thing than having a UFC fight on the White House lawn. It's so America. It's so cr it's so Trump. It's so crazy. You know what I mean? A UFC fight on the White House lawn is bananas. Yeah man, even um the fight card is amazing as well. Oh, fight card's incredible. The only thing that bothers me is that it's outside. Yeah. And that these guys are they're fighting for world titles. I mean, Ilya Taporia might be i is i i is not just one of the best right now. He might be one of the best that ever did it. It's very possible that he goes down in history as the all timer. I mean he's he's so good. And for him to have to defend his title, the world title outside with bugs and humidity and heat. Yeah, you gotta take into uh account the weather. You know, it's a whole different environment. It could rain, it could thunderstorm, who fucking knows? It's DC, it's the east coast in the middle of the summer. I mean it's uh it's it's crazy to have a fight outside in June in D C. Yeah, I've I've fought outside before. It's it's definitely a different different vibe, different energy. Where'd you fight outside? Um I fought outside for Combata Americas . Uh it was uh somewhere in Arizona and it was a nighttime. That's Camel McLaren's organization, right? Yeah. Love that dude. I've also fought in the summer in the daytime and at a fair. Oh my god. Yeah. It was one of it was like in California? In California. Well, what was the temperature? It was hot as hell, dude. The mat was hot as hell. It was like at a fair in in the middle of the summer or something. Oh that sucks. The mat's hot. I didn't even think of that. Yeah, dude. Was it canvas or was it like mat? I think it was mat. Oh Jesus. Yeah, it wasn't. So not just that, but it gets slippery as fuck too, then. Yeah, dude, it was hot as hell, bro. Did you ever see King of the Cage wet and wild ? You ever see that? Nah. King of the Cage put on a fight in the middle of a rainstorm and just let people fight . Just like I I think they just said, look, you know, if you want to fight, you get paid, this is it. It's gonna rain out, and we're gonna have to fight 'cause it was outside. Yeah. So this is back when California did not have MMA. It was illegal, but it was legal on Indian reservations. So we would go to these Indian reservations for King of the Cage. So back when Eddie I think Eddie was the commentator at that event, I'm not sure. But he was one of the main commentators at King of the Cage And my friend Bud, who's my neighbor back in California, I actually sold him my old house, real good friend of mine. He was one of the owners of King of the Cage. And they were just putting on these events in fucking these Indian reservations when it was totally illegal in California. So we would just drive to the Indian reservations and watch and one of 'em, it poured. I mean it was outside. The whole thing was outside. They just set up a cage outside and it's fucking boring, dude. And these guys are slipping all over the place and it's crazy. They're fighting with wrestling shoes on. And it was just some of them did at least. And it's fucking ridiculous. Like there's no way you should fight like this. Yeah, my my actually actually my pro debut was for King of the Cage outside on Indian Reservation. What year was this? Um I wanna say twenty twenty17, maybe 2018. So they were still doing them outside even then. Yeah. Wow. At a Saboba Casino. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's where we went. Yeah. See if you can find the King of the Cage footage for Wet and Wild. It was looking for it. One of the craziest events I've ever seen in my life. I'm just imagine you're basically fighting on ice. You're slipping all over the place. Everybody's sliding. This is it. Look, they're trying to mop down the cage in between the fights. I mean, it's ridiculous. Like, what are you going to do? You're not gonna dry it out. I don't know why they were trying to do this. But they were trying to at least give them some sort of like not sopping wet environment. Dude, that must have been so hard to fight on. Oh look at their slipping Oh they're slipping all over the place. At least they had wrestling shoes on 'cause I rem I don't remember what year this was. They're ref with the ponchos kind of funny. I know it's crazy. All the officials have ponchos on it's fucking pouring right now. I Of course it is, 'cause they're wearing shoes. But it was uh the whole event was just insane. And imagine like trying to get a submission on someone who's literally soaking wet. Yeah, dude. I mean it's impossible. It's it's so crazy. But I mean these times remember this forever. This event, like everybody was there remember, you see the rage. I mean why are they pouring but why are they bothering like sweeping the water off? You're not gonna dry it out. And look at his feet, man. His feet are sliding all over the place with wrestling shoes on. It's crazy. In a situation like that, you're almost like better off like immediately going to the ground . But even then, like how you can even get a choke? People are sl everyone would slide out of everything. It's like fighting someone who's oiled up. Look at it, just drying 'em off. That's crazy . Ye Yeah . Yeah, but this uh the whiteouts one I just I just hope it doesn't rain. I hope they figure out a way to kill the bugs too. I've been investigating online . Uh there's a bunch of different machines that they sell for like outdoor events and these they kill every bug within like a mile radius. They set these things up and all the bugs just go to it and get zapped and at the end of it they dump it out. There's like a fucking like a big bag of bugs. So if they set a bunch of those up around the perimeter, maybe they can at least minimize the amount of bugs that are out there. Because you have uh in the D C area you have a lot of gnats. A lot of people. Imagine fighting and you got a gnat in your eye and you you know 're in the middle of moving around something goes in your mouth and you know yeah is there a lot of them out there oh yeah yeah yeah it's moist that's the thing about DC it's humid that's a humid environment. Especially in the summer. And Jamie and I checked was it a hundred degrees there? Yeah, it's current I mean we're getting closer to the dates to the forecast. It's getting better. It's currently set to be a high of eighty five, low of sixty nine. 69 is nice. No rain and well isolated thunderstorms the two days before. But that doesn't I mean that's what that means. That doesn't mean anything by the time it gets to June. Yeah. And what is is it June 11th? What is it? So it's the twelfth and thirteenth both have isolated thunderstorms. Twelfth and thirteenth and it's on the fourteenth. Oh fuck. And the one on Friday it says considerable cloudiness and fog after midnight. I think the fight Well the fights are Sunday. Well the thing is if it's the low sixty nine, that's nice. So if it cools off by the time the main event starts or the the last few fights, but the first few guys that get after it, they're gonna probably be fighting in the daytime. Yeah. You know, you never know. They might just spray some chemtra Oh if anybody's gonna do it it's Trump. Do you see the thing that he posted? He's got uh uh like this whole drone army on the roof of the ballroom now? Oh no I didn't know they built what's up to will. It's not done yet. Oh it's not? No. Oh well he should posted pictures of the AI? Yeah. Well no I mean it's just a rendering I would say. Oh that's all it is? Yeah. Oh. How far along is the ballroom? I think they're pretty far. I'm gonna show you the picture that they posted, but yet it's not it's like a rendering of what it will look like. Oh, that's fake? Yeah. Okay . Why would you tell people what you're gonna do? Well they can be able to see that. That's not what I saw. I saw one that looked like it was during the daytime . Yeah, drum. Yeah, that's what I saw. That's the one I saw. So that's what it's gonna look like. Yeah, drones are crazy, man. Bro, drones with missiles and guns flying around on the top, all controlled by AI.. That's crazy What could go wrong? War war is a whole another whole nother thing these days. Yeah. Yeah, it's spooky. You ever seen some of that footage from Ukraine? Yeah. Drones just flying around bombing dudes. Just bombing dudes. Just dropping down on guys and exploding. And there's fucking hundreds of those videos now . You get it a one of those um Instagram algorithms. We watch a couple of them, and then next thing you know, they're getting recommended to you over and over and over. Yeah, dude, that's crazy. Um two weeks ago, the bar MC . You know, one day I'm talking talking about something with my buddy next, thing you know, it's all over my phone. My feed. I know. Yeah, it's crazy. It's weird. It's we're just accepting the fact that our phones listening to us all the time. Yeah. You know what I got trapped in recently? Uh algorithm Dude, it's all crazy people that like one guy's like, Hi, I'm Joseph Wilson. I am the legitimate president of the United States bec due to constitutional rec you know, like crazy stuff. Like crazy people. This one lady this one lady is crazy. She's like uh I forget what famous actor she was saying, they're trying to kidnap me and put shit in my vagina and like she's just completely insane. And every day it's like some new accusation, someone's after her, someone's tapping their phone, someone's communicating with her through her ceiling fan. Like But I don't know w how Instagram knows that these people are schizophrenic and keeps sending me schizophrenic people over and over and over again. I understand, but how does it know who's schizophrenic? It must there's gotta be there's and there's internal tags on every post. Right, but isn't that nuts? Or whatever the word is it's using. So it's sending me all these crazy people, like ins completely insane people. One one lady who thinks everybody's a man, she thinks Rosa Park's secretly a man, everyone's secretly a man She's like pointing out like collarbones. Look at them, look at this is a man. Kim Kardashian's a man. Everybody's a man. It's fucking nuts, man. And it's just schizophrenic people. And I'm like, okay, so Instagram must know these people are schizophrenic. Because they're all like I'm telling you it's like three out of ten videos Instagram recommends me are inst or people that are completely crazy. So it must know these people are crazy. And it's just sending 'em my way. Yeah, dude. Same same for me, dude. I was I was talking with my buddies, uh I don't know, something about like sardines or something. Next thing you know, I'm like looking at my phone like, dude, what the hell is all this shit about sardines? I know. Back to back. It's crazy, bro. It's creepy how the ads target you. Yeah. Which means it's a good buying sardines. Well it's like how much is it listening? Did you see that post I'll send it to you Jamie that Kim dot com posted about Palantir? Yeah. Did you see that? It's from February where they got hacked apparently, maybe. Is that what it is? Yeah, that's what it's I don't know if we probably saw the same one. Yeah, I'm sure. Um it's very recently that uh I saw it. I didn't check the date on it though. I could send it to you? Yeah, I got it um it I think it's c um here yeah. It's from February sixteenth. Yes, that's it. That's the one. It's not showing up right here though. When we sent it? Well th yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing I just had was like a Russian website and I'm not gonna. Okay . Click this. No problem s. Definitely that's another one like Brittany Griner. That poor lady. Oh yeah. She did nine months. They they wanted to put her away for ever . Yeah. They were they were trying to get to like exchange like The merchant of death. Guys responsible for thousands of people being dead. So this is from Kim.com. Palantir was allegedly a attack uh hacked, rather, an AI agent was used to gain superuser access, and here's what the hackers allegedly found. Peter Thiel and Alice Carp commit mass surveillance of world leaders and titans of industry on a mass scale. Massive scale. They have thousands of hours of c transcribed and searchable conversations of Donald Trump, J. D. Vance, and Elon Musk. They have backdoored the devices, cars, and jets of world leaders and accumulated the biggest archive of blackmail material. Palantir is creating nuclear and bioweapon capabilities for Ukraine and is working closely with the CIA to defeat Russia. They believe they are one year away. They plan to achieve this by keeping Russia busy with meaningless peace negotiations. Palantir is responsible of the majority of Palestinian deaths in Gaza. They've developed the AI targeting for Israel. Palantir is an arm of the CIA and all data from international clients is copied into a C So the problem is this is like alleged. Is there a community notes on this at all? No. Really? He's the number one post. When can we see these hacked materials though? What are the hackers doing with it? If they aren't exposing the whole thing, then fuck 'em. Yeah, they only I he I how does there no community know? He posts a lot of things that sometimes are true and sometimes are not true. Ye.ah Do you know his background? Do you know the story behind that guy? Me or general. Yeah. So his back I I first found out about him a long time ago. He's a very wealthy guy. He lives in New Zealand and he ran a site. Was it uh super upload or yeah, like one of those uploads, mega upload? Yeah, I think that's that it? And they targeted him because they said that people were uploading things that were copyrighted material and I think they were trying to they were trying to they were trying to get him out of the country. Extradited on I think they Hughes US authorities are pursuing a vendetta against him on behalf of politically influential Hollywood studios. Two thousand eighteen New Zealand Court of Appeal upheld the lower court's ruling dot com appeal to the Supreme Court of New Zealand, which ruled in twenty twenty that dot com could be extradited to the United States , but that he could challenge the decisions through judicial review. His extradition order was eventually signed on August of 2024. He's remained free in New Zealand while continuing to pursue judicial review of his extradition order. He launched another he launched another cloud storage service called Mega , although he severed all in 2013, severed all ties with the service in 2015. He also started and funded the Internet Party. The party contested in the 2014 New Zealand general election under an electoral alliance with the Mana movement and contested the 2017 general election independently, but failed to win any seats at either election. He um was a famous guy in the early days of the internet. Did did you ever see those videos that he made, like these cartoons ? Yeah, I'm trying to remember some things that I remember but I d I don't yeah. Yeah, there was like cartoons that he did where he was like killing dictators in the cartoons . What did he call he call ed Internet Party, Moment of Truth, Extradition. See if you can find Kim dot com early animated videos. He should be. Um The Seth Rich one is one of the ones where I just I don't understand why anybody isn't think that that's crazy. This guy gets assassinated after he supposedly gave WikiLeaks all sorts of inside information on the Democratic Party about how they kept people out of the election, how they were running things, and then he winds up getting whacked. And they're like, No, it was a robbery attempt at three in the morning. They they left his watch, they left his wallet, they left everything, his phone. They just killed him. See if you can find his videos. He has some crazy videos. I want to say these are from like the nineties, like late nineties or early two thousands . He was uh the he I don't remember I don't even know what he was doing, but he was very wealthy. He had this crazy house and his hot wife and he'd show videos of it and shit. And I think this guy's just been persecuted because of that sight that he had. And he's fucked now. They just keep going after him. I don't know if he's right about this Palantir stuff, so I probably shouldn't have been saying it, but but you do know that like in worst case scenario, a gigantic corporation could have the power to surveil everyone all the time. Everyone's online. Yeah. I mean they can they can see you now with Wi Fi. They know where you are in a building at any given time with the Wi Fi in the building. Oh that's crazy. Crazy. They use Wi-Fi and they can get a literal image of you walking around your house. They know where you are at any given time. Because of the Wi Fi. So if they tap into your Wi-Fi, they know where you are, there's shh boom . There's targeted strike in the upper right bedroom. It's crazy. It's really nuts, man. Because this is this wasn't here it is. This is from like this is some old internet stuff. This is a flash video. Yeah. 90s flash video. Yeah, this is it. Give me some volume. Surprised that even has sound . It's gonna be a very crude sound. Yeah, this is what he did. I remember this. So this was the 90s . So this is the same guy . He's a very interesting guy . He's getting in a boat? Yeah, it's called Kim S Kimball Special Ag ent. I mean he's probably this is yeah, if it was made in the nineties, this is thirty years ago. He's you know, screwing around with internet graphics and catches a helicopter. He lands on the ground. He's standing on top of Microsoft? What is he doing? Oh, there's Bill Gates. Boy, people hated Bill Gates even back then. No, no, no, please don't you agree . That's crazy. It's assassinating Bill Gates . What the fuck? It's so weird. Oh, he didn't kill him. Just wrote Linux around him. So he got in trouble for these? Nah. Nah. Nah, not really. I mean, I think people just thought those were silly. Uh he got in trouble for that So the s the way it used to work is you remember do you remember Napster? Yeah. Right. So Napster worked where you could take songs, you could upload them, and anybody could download these songs. The way mega upload worked on a lot of these upload sites is you could take a film and you could turn it into a digital file and say you take like avatar, turn it into a digital file and upload it. And people could then download it and watch it on their home entertainment system through the internet. Just download the file, pull plug an em uh HDMI cord from a computer into the TV and boom, you're watching movies. Yeah. And you don't have to pay anything. And the thing was it's like all this stuff was copyrighted material. And I think his argument was like, Yeah, but I'm not uploading it. I'm just I'm hosting this service and they're like, Well this service is used to do illegal th ings. So you're in trouble. So it's like I don't know what the argument is there. I don't know who's right. Do you understand it, Jamie? Yeah, you explained it, but I mean that's a most people would go like copyright law American copyright law only matters in America. And I don't know if that's the argument he was making, but that's true too, right? Because he's in New Zealand. And this house this site was hosted in Hong Kong. Mm. Yes, is on January twentieth, twenty twelve they seized more than three hundred million dollars of his or Hong Kong money, forty million dollars in American money. Damn son. Um he denied any wrongdoing. I wonder how he's earning money now. I wonder if they still took all his money or I mean he did they did cre if that may I just looked it up. Mega is a like a cloud service website now. I don't know if he owns it or runs it. Um he's trying to do cryptocurrency stuff I'm sure he was Oh, he's very fun online. I don't know if he's right about the Palantir stuff, but forget about Palanti r. We know that what's happening now in terms of you talking into your phone about sardines and then you your phone showing you ads. Like there's they're definitely listening to something. Grock said it's unverified. As of February oh, so this was Grok commented on it. Kim dot com's claims about a palantier hack and uh uh related allegations remain unverified. Major outlets like Reuters, BBC, and New York Times show no coverage. Palantir's site has no statements. Some sources echo the post, but no independent evidence confirms it. Right, but you gotta think if you know a dude who's deeply connected into the hacker world, it's that guy. Right? Like I think he's the most public one. Yeah, he'd be the guy that would know some shit. I wouldn't be surprised. If it's not Palantir and I'm not accusing Palantir of anything, but there's gotta be at least one point in time, there's gonna be a corporation that has the power to do those things. And that's what's going on with all this surveillance shit that people are missing. I'm sure I'm sure there already is um you know they're already doing that, you know? Yeah. I mean a hundred percent. If I was an evil person running some technology corporation, I would do it. Some c especially if I thought it was right. Yeah. I can imagine like China probably has. Of course. Yeah. A hundred percent. Well, so I forgot while I was reading that um s someone got arrested I think like uh some government official or something got arrested and admitted to being a a spy oh yeah in China. Well yeah well there was a mayor in California in Arcadia, California. Yeah. There was a spy for China. She was the fucking mayor. Yeah. The mayor of a city was working for China. Yeah, and admitted it. Yeah. It's crazy. Oh, China's playing a long game. They they infiltrate universities, they give money to universities, they they fund programs, they give money to research labs, they uh sell cell phone towers at a a discounted rate to the military and these dumb motherfuckers put them around where their military bases are. Yeah. Yeah. I've had guys that are you know, CIA guys on the podcast tell me about that, how how dangerous it is that they've they bought farmland all around these military bases. China has. What's up? Did you say something? I thought you said something. Yeah that's crazy. It's crazy that they all are even allowed to do that. Like you imagine you you're in conflict with another country and they buy land right next to your house, you're like, Hey Yeah. What are you doing? Forget about your house, a fucking military base. Anybody buying any land around a military base should be th thoroughly vetted. If you want to buy land around a military base, it should be like no background check for sure. Not just background check. Like you should be an American citizen, A , and you should have like a legitimate verifiable reason for owning this land. Like you're a farmer or you can put fucking windmills up there, whatever you're gonna do. It should make sense. It shouldn't be like all you have to do is have the money and you could buy land right next to a military base. Yeah. Where they're doing who knows what. Yeah. And you know China has like some of the top top uh you know um some of the the the m like you never know what they're wanting. Yeah, the technology. Oh their technology is off the charts. They're their drone technology is beyond ours. And they they have like crazy drone displays where they have enormous dragons. Oh yeah. And they make a dancing dragon in the sky like whoa . So they're all coordinated but some sort of a computer program and they all work autonomously. It's nuts, man. Like their techno their cars are insane. China's cars, they have electronic or electric cars that are beyond anything we have here in America. Yeah. And they can't sell them here. Which I think is kinda crazy. I think that's kinda fucked. It's kinda w I mean I guess we're in competition with China, but like it should be survival of the fittest when it comes to cars. Like if if you're making the best fucking cars and you happen to be in Ch to and I've talked to some guys that work for major automobile or organizations and they went over to China and they're like, Oh my god, we're fucked. Like these cars are insane. Yeah. Yeah, I mean just Tesla alone, yeah, I know it's I know it's not China, but I mean cars are not a good thing. Oh those cars are insane. Yeah, they're pretty dope. But they make them here. And they make them in China too. They made a lot they they were making a lot of them in China during the pandemic because the pandemic didn't close things down in China the way it closed things down here . But they're they have electric cars now that have like these insane suspensions. They go zero to sixty in one and a half seconds. They're nuts. Yeah they there's this dude that I follow online . God wasn't his name, Forest Auto Reviews . I'm trying to remember. But he does these quick reviews and somehow or another he always gets these Chinese cars. I'll find his name. I can find his video if you want me to. Yeah, these cars are nuts, man. Looks like a Tesla, but Oh, that's the dude. It is? Yeah. What is his channel? This isn't his channel, I don't know. Somebody else uploaded it? Maybe. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe somebody else uploaded it. I think it's the same guy. Let me find it. I think I think it's Forest Auto Review. No, that's not him. He's not that guy. Hold on. This guy. Yes. Forestr Jones. That's it. So he keeps finding he keeps reviewing these uh just g s glu scroll down for his videos. Go to his video section. Um if you search you can just narrow it down more. But uh didn't worry work one year ago, test the minivan or you China minivans . You have some crazy shit. Find find a good one. I don't know if it's electric, it's just a luxury car though. Yeah, this is it. This is electric. Look look at these things. They're nuts. I have this gorgeous drive mode selector, I have cup folders right in here, and I have a dash cam that can do this. Oh, that's crazy. You also get selfies for the blicky. A big one. I have built-in fragrances that slot in right here. If I push this button, I have more storage space and I can do this . If I push the button on the side of my seat, that'll fold down my armrest. My seats are heated, ventilated, and massaging. I have an area right down here for my phone, have built-in sunscreen shades. If I push this button, my cup holder comes This is thirty-seven thousand dollars. And these cars are not available no I want to watch a movie. Is that one? I don't know. No, maybe I'm looking at the wrong video. That sounds like it would cost more than thirty. It says luxury cars. What car is that? Does it say? Doesn't it say in the description? No description has been added to this video. See go for the beginning, see what it says. Inside I get a moonroof, pillows in my headrests, these heated ventilated and massages seats, I get a passenger screen, a main wild shit in China with technology. And they have full surveillance on their population. You can't say shit over there. Yeah, they have like facial recognition and everything. That's crazy. Yeah. You you can't step out of line at all. They'll they'll make you uh turn you into a handbag. It's it'll fuck around over Exactly. They get their bodies, most of 'em from China. And they're yeah. They're they're called like Chinese uh I think it's undeclared bodies. So like if you die within a certain amount of time, if someone doesn't claim your body, unclaimed bodies. If someone doesn't claim your body within like thirty days, they just can turn you into a statue . Wow. Well, here's the problem with that. In order to do this process where they turn you into a statue, it has to take place within forty eight hours of your death . So there's no way they're waiting a month. Yeah. So they have to start this process like pretty soon after you die. And they d they have this process called plastination and they take the bodies and they basically strip all the fat from the body and they turn it into this plasticized st statue of all your And so you're out there like playing basketball and like you could see like the rib cage and all the ligaments. That was a a dude that was probably tweeting the wrong thing or he worked for a company and he fucked up or he was banging someone's wife or he was doing something and they turned this dude into a statue and now he's at the Luxor in Vegas playing golf. Like for real. We looked into it and it's there's not not just me to saying this. There's a bunch of stories online about these different bodies and how they've found ones with bullet holes in them. They found one of 'em is crazy. So this lady was uh having an affair with a mayor in this town in China. And she was uh an online uh or a t television broadcaster, she was like a news lady or something like that, and she was having an affair with the mayor. The wife finds out about it. The lady goes missing. She gets scrubbed from the internet. Turns out the lady was pregnant. She was eight months pregnant. She goes missing. Then all of a sudden, this pregnant lady appears at the bodies exhibit with the baby inside of her. Same exact size, same features, everything as this lady. The wife of the mayor who she was having an affair with, the wife was the manager of the plastination factory where they turned everybody into statues. Damn. Damn. And and these bodies, there's no skin on them? No skin. It gets even crazier. Years later, she gets arrested for killing another person. She gets arrested for poisoning some English bus businessman. And then it goes to trial. Well the person who stood trial for her, the person who stood was not her. There's pictures of the lady on the stand, it's a different lady. So she must have paid someone off to get convicted and go to jail. Like paid their family off or something like that Still exhibited, the body of the pregnant lady. So there's a pregnant lady, and you see a cross section of her stomach where she's like holding onto her stomach, and you see the fetus inside of her stomach. So we're supposed to believe that this undiscovered body, this unclaimed body of a pregnant lady with uh an eight month old fetus inside of her body, that they find it and then somehow or another they know it's cool so you can just turn it into a statue. But you have to do that within forty-eight hours of someone's death. But no one claimed it, which takes a month. None of it makes any sense. Yeah. The whole thing is nuts. Some of them are people that like I'm gonna die. I wanna donate my body to this exhibit. Okay. If you're crazy and that's what you want to do, that's cool. But that's not all those people. Some of those people are it's very sketchy circumstances. See if you can find that image of the pregnant. I wonder how often or how many how many times that happened, like 'cause wouldn't like the the pregnant uh body like, they never investigated it. The family wanted to. The family wanted to investigate . Exactly. They were trying to do that, but they wouldn't let 'em do it. These people have like obviously have immense power. If she got someone allegedly got someone to stand in line for the floor And this is like in China So look at this. This is the baby . Pregnant woman and the fetus inside of her . And so the family looked at the face and they're like, Jesus Christ. Oh, someone stole the fetus? Oh . Also, I was digging there's another scandal that happened in twenty twenty-four with a bunch of corpses in China too. Well, there's a video or this where this uh investigative reporter, this investigative reporter visited one of these plastination factories, and there was bodies that were laying down. There's a video of it. You could watch the video. These bodies are laying down, they have sheets over their head, and they have their arms tied behind their back and the sheets are bloody. So it looks like they all got whacked and they're all at this plant, getting ready to be turned into a fucking statue. It's creepy as shit, man. This body was it they just stole the fetus. Two women in LA stole it. This is twenty years ago. They probably stuffed it inside of their belly. Look at him prank. Um there's another algorithm right now. There's another scandal they had where f over four thousand bodies were in a scheme a corpse scheme, they said where they were being sold uh they peop families thought their body the f uh their family member was being cremated. Was not. They were being sold into I was trying to find out what they were using. Oh that's a lot of bodies. They were crazy for bone grafting. Oh so uh al ogen ic bone graft products. Oh, that's another thing one of these schizophrenic ladies was telling me, and that is true, that uh a lot of these women are getting fat that's taken from cadavers. So they take fat from cadavers and then they inject that fat in their ass to give them a BBL, like no bullshit. And Whitney Cummings, I told I sent it to Whitney, she's like, Oh my god, it's literal dead ass That's such a funny line. Because that's what it is. I mean, it's dead tissue. You're taking a dead person's fat and they're stuffing it in their ass. Cadaver fat transfer. Brazilian butt lifts or BVLs and synthetic implants. How does it work? Instead of harvesting fat from your own body via liposuction, surgeons use donated human fat harvested via authorized tissue banks, allegedly. Clumpy butter. So hot. Clumpy butter ass is so hot. Matrix of collagen, proteins, and growth factors. When injected into the body, this matrix provides immediate volume and also acts as a biological scaffold that encourages your own natural tissue to integrate and grow into it. Dead ass. Actual dead ass. And women are doing this. How see if you can find a video of them doing like how do you They call it filler. Oh Oh it's so nasty. That's so nasty. How bad do you just do some squats, you lazy bitch. Anyway. The ass and the legs, it has to match, folks. Yeah. It has to mat ch. Can't fake it. It's like you ever see those dudes that uh they don't really have muscles but they get oil injected into their arms? Yeah, and it's just like it's all weird. Weird, like it's almost like a fake dude. It's always I saw this Brazilian dude. He had it on his biceps, traps, giant traps. Giant crazy shoulders, big tits, crazy and he's like flexing and doing all this stuff, but it looks weird because it's your body it's like y doesn't fit. Yeah. Doesn't fit your body. That's the same thing when a girl gets a crazy fat ass and she's got these toothpicked legs because she's lazy. Yeah. Like that doesn't fit your legs. This is looks like you're wearing a diaper. This is crazy. Don't do that. Yeah. Man, dude, women come into the process. Women go to the extreme. I know. Yeah. Well the thing is I think if you do just a little bit just a little bit of dead ass, maybe it's nice. Yeah. You know, I bet there's girls that have done it, that you go to the right doctor, like this Beverly Hills dude, he's like, I got you. Just to know. You're just gonna plump that sucker up just a little bit, just a little bit, little bit of dead ass. Little bit of just a touch, just a touch of dead ass. That's pretty gross. Like for someone to put someone else's clumpy butter in It's fucking completely disgusting. How do your body even react to that or how to like not well? Ye And then to have all that stuff take out the DNA and all this other stuff . What if they don't? What if that's bullshit? What if the DNA's in there? What if you start getting weird memories ? You know? Yeah. Weird memories from ass tissue, like weird nightmares. Photos here are rough. I just let's go. Well pull 'em up right here. Ho elderly male fresh cadaver underwent a layered dissection of ballbox. So they're taking fat from an elderly guy's face? Actual dead body? Whoa. Does it matter where the fat comes from? I guess not. I guess it's just fat. So this is a dead guy and they're peeing. So who sold his body to some fucking laboratory with a have the clumpy butter in this look at that in the upper right hand corner. A c a whole crazy like So this is pre deadass and post deadass. See that's not bad. It's not bad, but that lady could have done that with the gym. That's just a little dead ass. Just a just a touch. That probably looks good on the side, if you turn it sideways. Does there any photos where they show this video there says one shot cost twenty grand on the other? Let's see that guy. He looks like a demon. Well these videos are yeah that's not even a realistic That's a AI. It's falls down yeah, it falls down a weird weird path here. Oh my god. Uh yeah. I'm not showing those photos either. It's disgusting. Oh so they're just sucking fat out of dead people. I had one of my knees reconstructed with a cadaver graft on my uh ACLs. I got a they use a um a uh Achilles tendon. 'Cause the Achilles tendon's thicker and stronger than the actual ACL , and they put it in my right knee. It's never been a problem. Holy works great. Well, from from your from your own. From your own body. No, no, no, from a dead dude. Oh, okay. Ho , what's that? That says uh gluteal augmentation, so that's butt. Right. Right. That says fat grafting. So that would be putting fat into the butt. Oh, where's that scar? Bro that scar's gigantic. Oh, that looks so nasty. It looks like bad cheese. That's disgusting. That looks like you know when you go to see like dry dry aged meat and you pass by those daycasts? Yeah. They have the dry aged meat container. What so you're gonna get your fat put in your ass or an implant, but then you have this massive scar . Boy, here's I mean these pictures are gnarly. That is another head. Look at the ear right there. So that's where they're getting the fat. How much fat do you have in your head? Oh well that says temporal augmentation by intermediate fat pad filler injection. So that's someone getting that done to their head. Maybe it's like tightening up the skin? Yeah, maybe, right? Like a filler. Oh yeah, there you go. Look. Oh she looks good. That actually looks good. So that's from her fat graph. Sorry folks. But if you look at like people's face when they get older, that's one of the things that happens is you lose collagen and fat in your face . And that would does make sense that putting it in would be better. See that looks like hell. Both of them look like hell. Don't do that. Go to the gym. Lazy bitch. What is that one to the right of it though? That one to the right. Yeah, like there. she got a little bit of a bubble butt from that button Yeah, look at the rest of the body. Yeah. Go to the gym. This is crazy. Questionable tattoo. Yeah, questionable choices. You get dead ass. You get dead people's tissue pumped into your butt so that more people want to fuck you. Like, hey, find Jesus. Go find Jesus. Okay . If you are out there I don't give a lot of advice, but this is my advice. If you're out there and you think'reing about getting dead people's fat pumped into your ass, you probably need Jesus. Yeah. Yeah, I mean BBLs are kinda going out of style, man. Yeah. You know I think B. Naturals are coming back. They should. Naturals are making a comeback. Yeah. Just work out. Like there's a lot of ladies that had flat butts that they put in the time, they put in the effort, and now you're like, damn, you can do that too. Yeah. Anybody can do it's just the process. Yeah. People don't like that process. Exactly. In this world for it. They want Ozempic and then they want dead ass. They don't want to lose the weight. Now they're saying then put it back where you want it. Retruitide, what is that called Reditru Tide? Reditru Tide, Reditru Tide and Deadass. They should have like a one stop shop. Yeah, now they're saying uh Ozempic eats up your bones. Oh yeah. Oh definitely. So everybody's everybody's fucked who've been taking it. Well it's not just that, it also kills your desire. This is what's weird. Like people are falling out of love when they get on Ozempic. L Like th they lose their desire. Really? Yeah. The people lose ambition, they lose desire. They also lose addiction. Like people that are addicted to cigarettes, people that are addicted to alcohol and gambling, apparently Ozempic helps that. Because you're basically killing desire. Like your your desire to go and smoke a cigarette, your desire to have a drink. Yeah. Gets killed by Ozempic. Yeah, it also changes your whole face, right? Oh yeah. Eats up all your the father. That's a problem. Yeah, that's a problem. Especially for ladies as they get older. Like the more fat you have on your face, the better you look. Like you when your skin gets real thin and starts draping over your bones. You don't that doesn't look healthy. Yeah. Looks like a problem. I know. Yeah. It's fucked. It's fucked that that's a part of our society now. And it it's just preying on people's lack of discipline and lack of understanding of the benefits of going through a process and achieving a result. Because if all these ladies that wanted to do this instead, if they just Yeah, it's just people being really self-conscious, you know. I know about themselves. Like I know a hot hot ass chicks that I'm like, wait, you take Ozempic? Why? Like why? Oh, just like a little you know, I'm like, you don't need it. I think some women say there's a real benefit to tak ing a microdose after a certain age. I was watching a video of this lady's talking about how microdos ing um these GLP ones is actually beneficial for some women after a certain age 'cause it helps reduce inflamm ation, d does a bunch of different things to them. But I don't know. Do you uh gain the weight? Like say if like there's people that just oh I'm just gonna do it like like really overweight people. Who obviously like have struggled struggle with diet and and working out, uh when when they get off, do like they gain all the weight back like everything else? Most likely if it's a psychological issue, the moment you get off of it, that psychological issue's gonna return. Yeah. Well it does, but it's basically you're starving yourself. Just like when you got out of jail, you barely could eat that double cheeseburger. Yeah. Right? It's cause your stomach shrank, because you weren't eating much. That's kind of the same thing that happens with Ozempic. I mean, what what happens to them when people say, oh my god, it makes you lose bone mass, it makes you lose muscle mass? Right, but so does starving yourself. That's one of the things that happens when people they go on these crash diets. They go, I'm just I'm 30 pounds overweight. I'm just not gonna eat. Okay, well your body's gonna find food somewhere, so it's gonna eat itself. And yeah, your body will eat fat, but it's also gonna eat muscle tissue. It's also gonna eat bone tissue. Your body's gonna consume itself to survive, which is crazy. So these things that you're getting, these side effects of like bone loss and muscle loss, that's what would happen if you just stopped eating too. It's your body doesn't have any nutrients. Just like when you were in jail, you weren't getting any protein, you weren't growing any muscles. Yeah. Your body is not getting the nutrients that it needs. So it's just shrinking. So res So that the difference between this red atrut ide , this one is a different one in that this one allows you to have all the weight loss, but you don't lose the muscle loss. It's not the same thing. I want to show you a picture of what I look like, bro. Oh yeah, please do. That was horrible. You got my number, send it to me and I'll send it to Jamie. Alright. If um It's shocking, bro. Holy hell bro. If this red a two tide, am I saying it right? Red at true tide, red a two tide, whatever it is, this one they think is gonna be incredible because this one is going to give you all the fat loss, but none of the muscle loss, none of the bone density loss. And I wonder if it's gonna be the same for like desire and whether it's gonna fuck with addictions and all those other things too. I saw that too. I've been trying to find that article ever since I saw it, and I can't find it. And it's not that it is, but it makes me wonder if it's like uh Right. Propaganda. Propaganda against it from the people who are on like you know selling the good stuff now they don't want the to don't get replaced. It could f put it into uh perplexity. See what AI are AI sponsor. Are people working Yeah um habits change? Do emplo are there employers who are having a problem with their employees taking GLP ones because it affects their work or ambition. I think what they were saying was ambition. It's making people less less ambitious. Which kinda makes sense. I mean, because I think a lot of people their ambition is probably an addiction. They're probably addicted to kicking ass and doing things. Here it goes. Yes, but the main employer issues with GLP ones today are cost coverage and side effects impacting attendance and productivity. Not a clearly documented widespread loss of work ambition. Yeah, productivity, sure. If you're not as ambitious. But attendance is if unless you're injured, you're hurt. Right. Right. So side effects and performance common common side effects are nausea, vomiting, diarrhea plus headaches and fatigue can result in comfort, increased absenteeism, and are tied to workplace performance issues if unmanaged. Legal and HR complexity, employees must balance cost control with ADA, HIPAA , and non discrimination rules when deciding coverage and when asked about employee medication use . Evidence of motivation and ambition. There are anecdotal stories, uh, media and personal accounts of people feeling less driven or shifting life priorities on GLP ones, but these are not yet backed by large workplace specific studies, so employers are not treating lost ambition as a primary policy issue. But I bet they're thinking about it . Yeah, I bet they're thinking about it. I mean it makes sense. Did you find it? Um having a sense me or number. Okay. Yeah. What you looked like right when you got out? Yeah. Yeah . Yeah, it was crazy, dude . I can't find her now. I'm uh having someone send it to me though. Okay . No worries. I'm kinda embarrassed to show you but I gotta I gotta see this 'cause if you see me now I'd be like holy hell bro. Yeah crazy. But good before and after is great. Yeah. The the people that are really brave are the ones that say, I'm gonna get in shape, so here's what I look like right now and they post that on the internet like, Whoa, that's that's crazy. Yeah. But that's also it's a good way to hold yourself accountable. You know? Yeah. Want a bunch of people to shit on you? Fat shame like fat shaming works. I know it's not nice. People don't like it. But when someone calls you a fat fuck and you're like, oh man, I kinda am a fat fuck. Like you start thinking and you go to work. Yeah, man. Yeah. A little bit of hard work, you know, a little bit of hard work get it, you know. Well listen, if there's a way where massively obese people that are dying can get healthy and if it's it's a GLP one , I'm all for it. But for everybody else, just get to work. And you'll you'll you'll respect yourself so much better. Like right now, like you you could look in the mirror and go, damn, I look so much better than I did when I got out of jail. Yeah. Because you could have stayed looking exactly that same way. Right? If you got discouraged when you were saying, like, I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do this, I have no endurance, I don't know if it's ever gonna come back, a lot of people would have just quit right there. Yeah, and if you quit right there, you wouldn't be able to appreciate the results when you kept going. And that's the that's the case with everybody that's at a bad place right now. Just go to work. Go to work. Write it down. Go to work. Put it together. Yeah. And yeah, man, I I think it just makes you that much like uh stronger and and and like aside from the the work but like in internally. A hundred percent. You know, makes you value yourself so much more in health. Absolutely. You know. It's also good for your brain and your brain's ability to do tough things. If you get through something difficult, you realize like, oh, I've been here but like the next time some fucked up shit happens to you, like I've been here before. I know it it sucks right now, but I'm gonna just trust this process. Exactly. Keep on trucking. So right when I s when I got back to work, I was like, Man, I'm I'm in the p hase right now where it it sucks, you know, like waking up sore as hell. I remember the first time I did leg day, I couldn't I couldn't even fucking walk, dude. Did you have somebody walk walking you through it like how to do it correctly where you don't overdo it in the beginning because uh like did you work with a trainer or anybody? Um Yeah, yeah, uh uh like over at the PI. So when we f first got started, we obviously didn't want to like because I'm I was so eager to just get back in shape and and and it was it was tough, you know. But that's like one of the things that that uh like while running why I like I like I love to run and is it's like one of those things where like a lot of people they reach to with a point where they get tired and then they just stop. You know, they they they'll just quit, you know, and like you gotta push yourself more and more harder and more harder. Next thing you know, you catch a second wind and you know you're you're you're jamming. But when I first first started, I swear dude, like I would like so when I first got out, my my oldest son, he gr he wrestled for high school. Um and he was like, Oh, you wanna wrestle? You wanna wr you wanna wrestle? 'Cause like, you know, he knew I was out of shape. I'm like, oh man, he might he might get me . You know, so in my mind, I'm like, all right, I got one good one good takedown in me. And and yeah, sure enough, um, we wrestled and then shot for that takedown, got the takedown and got up. And now I'm just like, whoa, whoa. And like he just ragdolled me after that . He just ragdolled me, man. And then uh actually a couple days ago, I got back from Vegas and and I hit him up. I was like, what's up now? You know, like what's up now? And and yeah, man, from from that first that from that first workout to this one, you know, I we made it through a whole a whole workout, you know, it's it's such a good feeling because I got really like really discouraged, bro. I'm not even gonna lie. And it was points where I was like got real emotional , I was like, dude, how am I this tired? Like it this is crazy, you know? And then I just always told myself like, dude, you've made it through so much in your life that you could come back and you can bounce back for this or that's this whole this whole process has been like to me is just like a comeback comeback comeback story, you know? Of course. Yeah. And it's just about trust in that process. It's just so hard when you used to be at one point and now There's a blessing in that because you realize like after it's over, it's like, wow, I did it. I did it. I pushed through all that bullshit. I got my body back in shape again. I'm back. Like when you get done with your camp, when you're peaking and on that last week, you're gonna feel so good. Yeah, man. I honestly I feel great now. And and like I feel like I've I've done such a great job and and actually recovering more, doing like a lot more recovery stuff and I've been I've been co incorporated that so much. And before I used to just go go and like now I gotta take the time to recover and and um I've been I've been taking this stuff from regenerate. What is that? Uh regenerate is uh uh like N N what is it, N A D or something like that? Oh okay. Yeah, stuff like that and and so it's N M N so it's like a precursor to N A D. Yeah. Uh well the US C. you can find that stuff USC provides it provides it? Yeah. Okay, so that means it's third party tested . Regenerate . Hm. Does that um who who makes that stuff, do you know? Um I know I know that they they're they're definitely UFC uh approved. Approved and like I think they might even sponsor Thorn is the main supplement company that you that the UFC uses, right? Yeah. Because they're all third party tested. It's like safe for sport . Yeah, the uh yeah it's um true shield certified products for professional athletes and uh yeah I started I started taking that like about two two fights ago and yeah I feel great. I guess it's like and they do like some kind of anti aging or something like that and stuff. Yeah. It's uh it basically lengthens your telomeres. And it is uh it sort of brings your body back to like a level of recovery that it had when it was younger, allegedly There's a lot of there's a lot of people that take I V, NAD and they take um NAD and um y you know, you can get it in the subcutane um what's it called? Subcutaneous uh under the fat injections, they do it that way too. Yeah . Yeah, but um but I think some of the best ways is actually N M. That stuff. 'Cause it what it does is it it's like a precursor and your body just makes more NAD that way. Yeah. Um I take it. Yeah. Yeah, it works. I take it before I go to bed every night. You know, uh Andrew Huberman was telling me about it. He was saying it he noticed that when he really felt like it was working. of One the things that that he noticed was his fingernails were growing quicker. And that's the same thing with me. I I texted him the other day. I go, this is crazy. Like my fingernails grow way quicker than they used to. And I think it's because of that. Yeah. That's crazy. I just noticed that too. If I'm that'd be going crazy too. Yeah. Oh I think it's your body's ability to regenerate . You know, and and heal. And like for fighters, like there's nothing more important than your ability to recover from a hard workout so you can get to another one. Yeah. And um I spent a lot of time like in hyperbaric hyperbaric chamber and now there's this thing um like this p pim pimf pim pimF PMF P yeah PMF or something like that. Uh-huh. And it's like a actual like a whole bed and just like just kicks up like just um some like electric like little pulses. Mm-hmm. And yeah, I'll be taking apps on that thing. So some of the stuff I don't even know what it does and I was like, oh, it's for recovery, I'll do it. Hyperbar ic works. And it works in the same way that NA NAD and NMN work in that it lengthens your telomeres. Like they did a study out of uh a university in Israel, I believe it was, where they put people on a protocol of for 90 days, they did 60 90-minute sessions at a hyper baric chamber and they show that their telomere increase was equal to a twenty year difference in biological age. So it makes your cells younger because you're infusing them with energy. You're infusing ener I'm in there like four or five times a week. That's huge. That that is one of the best things ever for your recovery, especially as you get older, you know, 'cause it makes your body react like a young body does. You know? Yeah, so I'm over here against the uh racing against the clock, man. So I'm like trying to do everything possible to to for my body just to to recover from these hard ass workouts, you know. How long was it after you got out before you started sparring again? Um I recently just started sparring about three weeks ago. Two weeks ago. So you gave yourself a month and a half ago. So what I wanted to do was definitely get in shape. Get in good enough shape to like 'cause if you go to extreme and you're out of shape, they're gonna You're gonna get killed. Yeah, they're gonna It's gonna be very demoralizing. Yeah. Yeah, so I I definitely wanted to to get my my get myself in good enough shape. So like this whole time I've been doing like a whole bunch of like weightlifting stuff and and technical stuff and and a lot of SNC stuff and and and strength and conditioning just getting your body back in condition again ready to go so just recently I'm like all right I feel I feel I feel good enough to to to spar and and um yeah I've been having pretty hard sparring sparring sessions. Well you were a guy that was known for your endurance before, you know, you're not a guy that fatigues and fights very much, you know. So it's like and you always push up a good pace too. So for you to get back to where you used to be and have that same style, like you have to be in shape first. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I d I feel like I've been getting getting ready just f to start getting ready, you know? Right, right, right. Yeah. Do you wish you had more time than August? Or do you think it's a good enough time period? I think it's a good enough time. Especially like the way I feel now. And you have two months to go. Yeah, and I have like another eight, eight and a half weeks, eight, nine weeks, something like that. That's nice. Have you been to Serbia before? Never been. I've been watching videos of like uh the Serbian crowd like in basketball and yeah it's wild. Bro that shit is crazy . So so in my mind that's what I'm that's what I'm expecting. I'm expecting like This is the first one. Whoa. We've played those Serbian basketball games a bunch of times. Here we go. Outside one. There's an outside one they got fires and shit . What I don't hear anything. Yeah, so I I had looked I had looked this up because I'm I'm a chase people They treat it like war. Yes, like the audiences they they chant like they're uh like a war is going on. Yeah in the middle of a basketball game and you know all these Serbians that are coming over and dominating in American basketball, well, guess why ? Yeah. Tough motherfuckers. That's originally why I I I looked this up a long time ago and um was it Nikola Jokic? Yokic, one of the top NBA players. Uh and I was like when I when I uh when I found found over fanboy over like and I I love basketball. Basketball is like one of my favorite sports. Um I always like look into like the background of the basketball player where he came from and I had already seen the Serbian basketball crowds like, man, I'd be dope to go to like a uh a basketball game in Serbia, you know. Yeah, I'd be careful what I ate and drank. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He goes over there to fight their main dude in the main event. Yeah, yeah . That's crazy. Just get him. Yeah, I'm like, dude, that's that's crazy, man. It's like especially they've never had a fight over there before, never had a UFC over there. I'm not accusing the Serbians of doing I'm like it might be a few unscrupulous gamblers. A few people. Yeah so look at this. Look at here we go . This is a basketball game I mean they got war drums. They got war drums they're pounding . Bro, this is Viking shit. Yeah . I love it. So this is what I this is what I'm expecting when I I love it. I love it. I wanna go see a basketball game. Oh yeah, it's gonna be nuts, man. Yeah, for sure. But it's gonna be exciting. It's gonna be so weird for you just to when they shut that cage, like, oh my god, I'm back. Yeah. I was in jail in Mexico. I was in a different kind of cage. Yeah. Like a way less preferable cage. Wild man. What a crazy fucking story. You know. Yeah, man. And and I get to um you know , tell the whole keep the story going, you know. Make it even make it even better. Yeah, does it does it piss you off? 'Cause like you had so much momentum after beating Kevin Holland, like that was a big victory for you. Yeah, it couldn't have happened out of out of war at a worse time, man. I know. And that was a welterweight fight, right? Yeah. And fighting him at Walterweight, that's's where he at his best, you know. Kevin at Walterwaite is really that's where he belongs. Yeah. For you to beat him, that's huge. Yeah, dude and uh he's such a tricky guy too, man. Yeah, it was an amazing fight, dude. It was. I hadn't I hadn't been in a I I I I think don't think've had a a fight like that in my career where so so much going on I was almost yeah, I d I dropped them in the second, you know, I was blew my fucking gas tank trying to finish them and then come the third round, he drops me and almost finishes me and I bounce back and then end up on top. It's like this these are the those are the fights that I train for, bro. In my mind, that's what I'm training for. You know, it's like and it couldn't have worked out fight was amazing. I had that's my third time being scheduled to fight 'em. And um finally finally happened, and it was an amazing fight. It was everything I expected it to be. And I ex I expect this fight to be an absolute war as well, you know. Dude 's a um you know, he's got a couple knockouts, come , you know, looks pretty good. He's a very skillful guy. Ver skyillful guy. Yuros Medic is no joke. He's very good. Yeah. It's gonna be a good fight. Yeah. It's perfect. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm gonna bring it. You know, I'm for sure. I'm I'm bringing them. You always do. But for that, man, it's gonna be so emotional for you, like having that moment, like d realize that you're you're fully all the way back. Yeah. I can't imagine. Yeah, man. What is the craziest shit you saw in jail in Mexico ? The craziest shit I I saw in jail in Mexico. Um not really too crazy, man. Really? Yeah. I would imagine Tijuana jail pr'ettys fucking crazy. Was it because you were in sort of a protected area? No, I'm uh to be honest with you, the the the area I was in was kinda like it was like the VIP section, bro. It was like right everybody was like there like s someone with money or like you know, c well we paid to be there, you know, I wasn't like ver it wasn't like that protected. It was kind of dangerous in a sense where like at night all the cell doors are open. You know, so it's kind of like a little little dangerous on the sketchy. Yeah, a little sketchy. Nobody got killed or anything while you were there? Not on my my not in section. But in other sections of the jail people got killed? Yeah. Um how many ? In my since the whole time I was there, like I'd say like two or three. You know, but um man the craziest thing I saw in jail . Prob probably some of this I bought an ounce of weed. You bought an ounce of weed I would that was the last thing I would buy. If I was in jail for weed . I bought an ounce of weed. Were you worried about they're gonna piss test you or anything? Yeah. No, no . Well the guards brought it in, so I figured like I might be in trouble for this if the guards are bringing it. That's crazy. The guards sold you weed. That is wild. How much is an ounce of weed in Mexico? In jail? About $300 . It's crazy, bro. You could you could pay for girls to come in, bro. Really? Yeah . They have like a a a menu. Shut the fuck up. Yeah. And they can't get a steak. I'd be like, keep the ladies. Can you get me a ribeye? Yeah . Dude, we had a we had a barbecue one time. Yeah? Yeah, we had a we had a uh a fucking um we literally had like a barbecue. It was like well not on a grill, but when I first got there, we had like these hot these hot plates and and the leader uh would always like do stuff for the whole tier, you know, like he'll always like, oh today we you know like every once in a while like once or twice a week maybe um not once or twice a week, I say like once or twice maybe uh every couple weeks. Like we'll get like pizza, like the order pizzas and shit. Yeah, dude, and and and for like I think it was like a thousand five hundred the you could like order a chick, bro, like a thousand like a thousand bucks for like a thousand five hundred something like that and they'll put you in the conjugal in the conjugal rooms with some random chick and you could you know have have your time with her for like three four hours something like that. So you could basically ha if you have money and influence, you could kinda do anything in there. Yeah, I mean if you got m if you got money you'll you'll be okay. I guess. Yeah. As okay as you're gonna be in a Tijuana jail. Yeah, but I mean you're still locked in a cell. I mean we we would only go we'd only get um two days of yard for one one and a w an hour and a half. You know, a hour and a half and the whole time I spent it running. Wow. Trying to run. Trying to keep my cardio up. And it was crazy, dude, because I was like the only dude out there like working out. You know, and honestly, by the time I left, I had everybody like working out running or or like doing some kind of like it was it was crazy how how I I uh my just me working out and doing like my daily thing just like it affected other people, you know like sure. Yeah. I was like I'll I'll I remember like I would have like I would come out to on the tier and um I'd be like doing doing workouts with with dudes right there, you know, and like I said, there's a couple dudes in there that are some dogs, you know. And uh Yeah, hopefully, hopefully I don't know if if if they do get out, you know he Can they contact you if they get out? Do you have your information? Yeah, I'm still in contact with them . Well that's cool. Hopefully you can get them set up, man. Did you get the picture in? Oh my god, yeah. I'll send it to you right now. Send it to me. I'll send it to Jamie. The world needs to see this . Wow. Is it crazy looking at it? Yeah. Did you send it? Yeah. Okay . Waiting for it to come in here. But yeah man . So the two the you said a few people got killed. Did you know those people? No. No, I d I don't know, but this picture's crazy. Yeah, when uh stuff like that happens, like there's obviously like you hear cause cause um oh you know what a lot of dudes were overdosing in there. Really? Yeah. From fentanyl? I think so, bro. A lot of dudes were in there like doing heroin and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that picture's crazy though, huh? It is crazy. Yeah, and then like to it's crazy, dude. It's crazy how how I've how I bounced back from there. Wow, you look so thin. Yeah, dude. Just malnourishment at its finest, bro. Oh my god. Yeah, you look like a dude who's just getting out of prison. That's what you look like . Yeah, so that's the first what do you got? A burrito there? Uh some tacos. So that's like right after I had the burger. I only took like two bites of those tacos. I was like, yo, I'm full. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So to bounce back from that and to f be to you know, pre be in decent shape right now. And how many guys died of overdose while you're there? About three or four of 'em. Damn. So you could kinda get anything you want really in jail. You get any kind of drug. Could you get stero ids ? Uh I don't think so. I try to get protein. Protein powder? Yeah. Yeah, some protein powder, but we never m it was never able to happen. That's crazy. They get you heroin, no problem. Yeah. Protein powder. Oh, it's kind of an issue. Yeah. That's ridiculous. That's crazy. Yeah. I had I had turned my cell into like a little gym and I was like just trying to trying to stay busy man and I always told myself like man there's for some this this there's gotta be some way that this gonna this gonna work out for me you know and you know, I ended up I ended up having to, you know, pay a nice amount of money, you know, to get to be here. I'm sure to be here today is a lot, bro. I'm sure. We'll talk about that later. But I'm listen, I'm glad you got out. You know, I I had only heard about it um maybe a few months ago. I'd heard about it like I wanna say three, four months ago, because someone had asked where you were , like, you know, someone saying, You know, who we haven't seen in a while is D-Rod. And then someone said, Dude, I heard he's locked up in Tiju ana. And I was like, Oh no . Like, what a fucking happen. Like, that could be it forever. You hear someone's locked up in a Mexican jail, you're like, that could be it forever. Never hear from you again. Yeah, man. Uh I'm so happy to be out, dude. I can only imagine. Yeah. I can only imag ine. I mean, listen, it's you don't appreciate the sunshine until you experience a lot of rain. And unfortunately that's how people operate. You know, you get real accustomed to things being great and then you You need like a little bit of that in your life sometimes, just a little bit of a wake up call to let you realize like you should be so happy and so thankful that you get to experience this life, especially the way you're experiencing it. I mean, what a dream to go from being a guy who's in and out of jail, fucking up your whole life, to being a top fifteen UFC Walterweight contender in arguably one of the toughest divisions in the sport, if not the toughest. I mean the UFC welterweight division is fucking crazy. You got Carlos Prates, you got Sean Brady, you got Morales , you know? Yeah, dude. And before I got arrested we we were I was gonna fight protests. Wow. I would have fought him in Brazil. Whew. Yeah. That would've been wild. Yeah dude and yeah I mean it's crazy to see like how the division has changed. Mm-hmm. Like right now the top five dudes are it's Ian Gary, Prates, Morales , um, Makachev's champion, mm-hmm and it's completely top it's completely like different now from from from when I when I got arrested. Did you see the uh JDM protest fight? Uh no, I wasn't able to see that one. Protest looks so good. He's he's so clever. That's a s tricky striker man. Yeah and he's so long, so long for the weight class. It's almost like his arms belong to a dude who's seven feet tall. You know what I mean? Like his arms and legs are so long. He's so slick. Yeah. When I um when I first got released, um we were planning to fight Leon Edwards. Mm. Yeah, but um I think it would have been July 11th, and that would have been way too soon. It would have been too soon. You know, but I mean the August fights couple weeks after that, but you know. That's a big factor though. Those couple of weeks when you're dealing with like your body recovering from what you've been through, those that's August sounds right. July sounds early. Yeah. Yeah. So no I I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna be ready, bro. I'm gonna be in super good shape. Um and and I just gotta I just trust all the the work that's ahead of me, all the work that I have lined up and and and all the recovery and and just just it's like like like I said man, like just appreciating everything, you know, my like my life, bro. I've been out of jail before and no one ever gave a fuck. You know, like now I'm I'm out and I have these amazing opportunities and I'm sitting here talking to you, bro. Well crazy. And more importantly, you got a big fight coming up, so that's very excit ing. I'm very happy for you, brother. Hell yeah. I can't imagine what you went through. I can't imagine what it w felt like wondering if you're ever gonna get out. You know, and thank God you had the resources and you knew the right people and they figured out how to do it and turn you into a Mexican. Yeah . That dual citizenship, that's wild. Yeah. Well I can't wait to hear all about it off air. But uh congratulations on getting out. I look forward to your fight. I'm really pumped. I'm really pumped for you. I'm very happy. Very happy you're out. Yeah, man. Biggest fight of my life coming up, man. I'm just embracing all the work and just everything, bro . Just everything. I'm living the whole process. Well, I can't wait to see the fight. So congratulations. I know the people are rooting for you. So thank you for being here, man. It was a lot of fun. Hey, thanks for having me, bro. My pleasure. My pleasure. All right.