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The Mark Belling podcast is presented by ULIN. For quality shipping and industrial supplies, ULINE has everything in stock . Visit youline dot com The Mark Belling podcast is a production of iHart radio podcasts We are on the way to having no traditional Democrat party in the United States at all . It's dying right in front of us What it's going to be replaced by is a Marxist party . Now a lot of us on the right have forever accused the Democrats of being socialists . But now you have actual out and out socialists, actual out and out Marxists running within the Democratic Party , running within the party, and they are taking control of it . They're winning almost everything . I'm going to explain why this is happening in a moment and why it's happening in Wisconsin. But the reality is that just as in many ways the MAGA movement toppled what was traditional Republicanism , Marxism is toppling what was the traditional Democrat Party . Another sign of it . Yesterday in New York City, they had the primary election, Democrat candidates for Congress . There were three Democrat districts in which out and out Marxists ran against mainstream Democrat candidates. Mamdani, the mayor of New York endorsed the radicals . Every one of them won This started a few years ago when AOC won a single Democratic primary . But now it's happening again and again . Bamdani himself won the Democratic primary for Mayor of the City of New York , and now he's trying to purge the New York Democratic Party of every mainstream Democrat out there . And he said, Well, that's only New York. That's only New York. Is it Look at Wisconsin . Right now the front running Democratic candidate for Governor Francesca Hong is a Marxist . She's come right out and said she's anti capital . She's anti everything . She wants a world in which there's no prisons. She's been leading this thing from the beginning. Maybe Mandela Barnes is close. Mandela Barnes is also a radical , but kind of dumb. Francesca Hawang's not dumb . She's just a Marxist . She's winning and we're getting very close to the August primary . And the mainstream Democrats have so far not been able to do anything to stop this momentum quarter. Now I'm going to get into the why of this in In just a moment here , first , have you ever been offered an add on option for premium or white gloves service? Ulon provides only one type of service and that's the best from knowledgeable customer service available twenty four seven three sixty five to keeping every product in stock ready to ship the same day when your business needs quality shipping supplies, reliable warehouse equipment, or office furniture fast, contact Uline and get the best service because Uline believes service is essential , not an option . Let me use Wisconsinson because, it's happening right now as a proxy for what you're seeing all over the country . I want to clarify my opening statement. There will be regular old traditional Democrats left in the United States , but only in red states where they can't win. You'll have Democrats who are going to run for office in Kentucky, which by the way has a Democratic governor who's not a Marxist . You'll have a few of them there , but in all of the states that are blue or like Wisconsin, the swing states, the so called purple , the Marxists are taking over the entire party . And the reason it's happening is what passes for the mainstream Democrats are too enfeebled and too terrified to fight back . They're scared just as in Congress . They're scared to death of AOC. They're scared to death of Ilon Omar. Here you have dangerous radicals in the case of Il an Omar and out and out fraudster , and you will not see the regular Democrat Party turn against them . These people are defining the party because there is no opposition to them. There's opposition, but the oppos ition doesn't fight . Who stood up to Mandani in New York ? Nobody . The entire Democratic establishment backed a Marxist to be the mayor of New York once he won the primary , and they're scared to death of bucking up against them because the loud radical voices within the Democrat Party fight viciously You see the treatment that is given toward anyone who is Republican , anyone who supports Trump . This same venom will be directed toward any Democrat that tries to get in the way of these people. So let's go out of Wisconsin . We have an election for governor Most if you simply looked at this in a vacuum and say the Democrats would probably win. Why? There's a long history in America that in off year elections, in other words, the elections in which the president isn't on the ballot . The party that doesn't control the White House has great gains. It holds up almost every time, not every but almost every time. The only distinction is how big the wipe out by the party out of power is. The Republicans get for all the White House. You would think that this would be a big democrat year . You go back to all of the preceding presidents, the biggest Republican gains occurred in the off years of Obama , ten and fourteen . There were big Republican gains in the off year of Biden, twenty two . You can go back to when Bush was president, the big Democratic gains occurred in zero two and zero six . So you would think that it would be a democrat year . On the other hand , the Republicans in Wisconsin finally have a year in which there's not an inner party fight over the nominee These fights have killed the Republicans in general elections because the losing side acts like little babies and goes and scuttles off into the corner rather than rally around the count behind the candidate that win . Furthermore, the Republican candidate is very qualified in Tom Tiffany, and he comes, as I've argued forever, from the correct part of the state if you want to win a statewide election. He's not from Milwaukee, he's not from Madison. He's from up nor th. When Republicans run a candidate who's not from Madison or Milwaukee in a statewide election, assuming it's a candidate that has skills, they win. In the meantime, the Democrats are seeing here in our state the same thing that's happening in New York and everywhere else . The radicals want to win. They want the candidate to be one of their own . So here's Frances ca Hong. All she is is a little member of the State Assembly from Madison. All she is . But she's also a self defining Democrat socialist . Her political views are Marxist and even by the standards of people like Mamdani, extreme. I don't think Mamdani has said he wants to close all the prisons . She's actually said this Clearly there are lots of Democrat voters and lots of Democrat officials who aren't that far out there . And they also fear that if Tom Tiffany gets to run against a self proclaimed socialist who we all know is a Marxist, Tiffany might win There hasn't been an overwhelming desire yet by undecided voters swing voters to embrace Marxism? Maybe they will . But it hasn't happened yet. When the Democrats run a left wing lulu, that's when they can lose. In fact , there's this postmortem that the Democrats did after the Kamala election . After Kamala lost in twenty twenty four, the Democratic National Committee hired this firm to do this big deep dive into what went wrong. And the conclusion is, we've got to stop running on all of these issues that people can't stand. We've got to stop running on gender ideology. We've started to stop running on these, you know, opposing fossil fuels , all this radical stuff turns people off. We've got to stop running on allowing boys to participate in girls sports . We've got to stop running on letting illegal immigrants sit to the United States That message clearly, they came up with this postmotive. They're not paying any attention to it . They may, in the rhetoric in the general election, not run on those themes, but look at the candidates that they're gravitating forward . So here's Francesca Hong . And then there's all these other Democrats running. One of them dropped out of the race this week, Missy Hughes, who, by the way, probably would have been the toughest Democrat for the Republicans to beat because she's the least radical of them. Missy Hughes was the economic development chief in the Evers Administration . She's a moderate Democrat. Moderate Democrats when they run them in Wisconsin, they're really hard for my side to beat . But Missy Hughes is polling at around two percent, even though she's a member of the couple of the alphabet communities in Madison , her politics are not enough for the rest of the Democrats to embrace this. So she dropped out of the race and she turned around and endorsed Sarah Rodriguez, the Lieutenant Governor I have been predicting that what you're going to see from the mainstream Democrats is one after the other after the other are going to drop out of the race so they can endorse a single one from the non whackle part of the party . In other words, you've got to come up with somebody to rally around so you don't have David Crowley getting fifteen percent, Sarah Rodriguez getting fifteen percent, Missy Hughes getting her nine percent and so on , and allow Francesca Hong to win with thirty percent and have Madella Barnes with twenty six and so on. So Missy Hughes dropping out is the first one of these shoes to drop, but I'm not sure it's going to work because you can have all of these candidates drop out, but if they don't attack Hong , what good will it do? I have heard almost no prominent Democrat in Wisconsin attack Hong on her Marxism. Instead, what they whine about and worry about is well she might lose the Tom Diffany because she's so radical . But they won't come out and rip her . Politics is a battle of personal ities and it's a battle of ideologies . And the Democratic Party's ideology is becoming Marxist because the non Marxist in that party are letting it happen . They are not fighting back This has happened throughout history. Back in the nineteen sixties and seventies, the Republican Party was very moderate party . There were a lot of, in fact, liberals in the party , the Northeastern party, you know, Rockefeller and that wing . There was a battle for control of the party. It went on for fifteen years and the Conservatives won . The crowning victory occurred when Reagan became the nominee in nineteen eighty and then got elected president . But that battle, that ideological battle was fairs . And the Democrats have had these ideological battles forever. Again, go back to the sixties . You had the war hawkish anti communist wing of the Democratic Party. And then you had like the McGovern wing. McGovern eventually got the nomination in ' seventy two. Jimmy Carter read as a moderate back went the other way in ' seventy six . They fought this out forever and ever and ever . Bill Clinton ran as a moderate one . Then they elected Obama . And they've never turned back. They moved to the far left with him, and it's simply been a march even farther and farther left ever since, but at least during that period before Obama got there, they fought that there was a battle of ideas and ideology . There is no fighting back for the Democrats because they mainstream Democrats because they're scared to death of the radical left within their own party. Here's what's going to happen after this year twenty, six as we get to twenty eight . You're going to see in congressional districts all over the United States, Democrat incumbents who are not radicals that are just regular old Democrats think like Chuck Schumers of the world or the Pelosi's of the world , and they're going to be opposed by Marxist candidates . And as we've seen in New York, these Marxists are winning again and again and again when the only voters are Democrat voters And the Marxists have all the momentum behind them . And the mainstream Democrats don't fight back and say, Hey, you're a Marxist. Marxism doesn't work . We can't just close the prisons. They're not willing to fight back and say any of that stuff . Now, let's stay in Wisconsin . Let's imagine the Democrats can rally around an alternative to Barnes and Hawing . The two most like ly alternatives for this would be Sarah Rodriguez, Lieutenant Covenant. You saw that Missy Hughes endorsed her . But there's also David Crowley, the Milwaukee County Executive . In order for them to have this rallying around , one of them has to get out of the race and endorse the other. Crowley and Rodriguez are about the same in the polls right now. Maybe Rodriguez a little ahead . They have to convince Crowley to get behind Rodriguez and have Crowley then encourage African Americans to support Rodriguez and get the entire establishment behind, dump a ton of money into Sarah Rodriguez and then turn on and try to stomp on Barnes and Hog. That's how you win Anybody who knows anything about politics, what you have to do is attack the opponent to win an election . Look how Trump won the primary in sixteen when he won the Republic . He stomped everybody else. Look at twenty four . He stomped on to Sanis . He stomped on Nicki Haley . That's how you win. I don't see any attempt by the regular mainstream Democrat party in Wisconsin or anywhere else to try to stomp on the radical side and therefore they're going to lose to them There is another so called mainstream Democrat in the race, Joel Brennan . A lot of people thought he would win. Here's why He has potentially behind him billions of dollars . Brennan himself isn't rich , but he's got an in law connect ion that's really powerful . Brennan's brother in law is Kevin Conroy. Kevin Conroy was the founder of Exact Sciences , Biomedical Company . They came up with what you need if you're one of these startups is you need a killer product and then you need to sell to a giant pharmaceutical and that's what they did. They sold to Abvi . They've got one of these things that has to do with colon tests and so on and it's a less miserable way of doing the prep. That's what he created. He sold the company for around twenty billion dollars . He was the leading shareholder in the firm, Exact Sciences. He's loaded with cash and the thought that a lot of the old regular old tired old bulls of the regular Democrat Party, the people that go back at O , Pat Lucy and then through the year, you know, the regular Jim Doyle, Tom Barrett, that whole wing of Democrats that have run things forever is Brennan, who's a mainstream Democrat could win because he's got access to the Conroy money and Conroy his brother in law would run a ton of ads on his behalf . I don't see these ads. I'd see like one or two brand ads. There's a limit as to how much money someone can give a candidate , but you can create an independent pack and spend an infinite amount. And I don't see Kevin Conroy doing it, probably because he thinks Joe Brennan's a lost cause . That he's not that he's spinning his wheels and he's going nowhere, which means Brennan would then have to drop out of the race, but let's suppose he did. Nobody's back at him anyway . And they're not willing to do what's necessary to win. Let me explain something very simple here . And I've explained this to Republicans who refused who have refused to fight against Democrats as hard as the Democrats fight against them. In other words , you know, the reason that Lefties hate Trump . Is Trump's the first Republican in about fifty years to hit the Democrats harder than they hit him He's great at it . They're not used to it . They're like Mike Tyson. Jason's a sports fan in there. Do you remember the beginning stages of Tyson? You know, when he beat the hell out of everybody and the Brett matches would last forty five seconds ? He eventually kind of was out of shape and fought this guy Buster Douglas who beat him . You can watch the videos on YouTube . What happened in that fight is Douglass was able to withstand Tyson's onslaught because Tyson was out of shape and then Douglas started to hit Tyson. And once he started to hit Tyson, Big Mike's verocity was gone . A couple of years or so after that he fought Evaner Holyfield . Holyfield hit Tyson and hit him a few times. Tyson couldn't take a punch . Tyson was so frustrated he bit off Holyfield's ear . See See, the reason that he had was not used to taking a punch is that he never had to take it before, because he killed people before they could. But he couldn't take the punch . Democrats have been eviscerating Republicans and calling us monsters and Nazis and racists forever and ever and ever. Then Trump came along and whacked them with their own medicine and they have not been able to handle it, thus Trunk Beard, Derrangement Syndrome and so on. But now you see the Democrats unwilling to use any of this for the opposition. So here's the point that I want to make . If you are not willing to do what is necessary to win , you won't win . You can apply that lesson to anything in business or in life. If you are not willing to do what is necessary to win , you're not going to win . Let me turn my attention out of this story . Hillary Clinton is surfaced boy boy, I mean she is almost like a sighting of Hillary Clinton right now is like when these archaeologists find a fossil or she is so far gone from the rest of the Democratic Party. They don't even pay any attention where See , she represents this mainstream that I was mentioning before . You know, her husband, Bill Clinton, ran as a moder,ate governed as a moderate, somewhere between moderate and liberal. Hillary was far more liberal than he , but I mean, she's a war hawk and money grubber . She's not a Marxist . And the Democrats had nothing to do with her anywhere. Plus they blame her for losing to Trump in the first place. That was her original sin. She does it. If she beats Trump in sixteen, there's no Trump presidency, there's no Trump back in twenty four, Trump just goes back to Trump tower and does the things that Trump was doing. So they blame her for that. Anyway, she's resurfacing trying to be relevant and she's on this nick thing on Netflix . And she's ripping the electoral college . The electoral college is the system by which we elect presidents of the United States . And she's saying that it's an abomination It served this nation well since the founding of the country. The premise of the electoral college is that each state gets a number of votes , and the votes are based on population. The formula is pretty simple. Every state starts with two, and then you take the number of house districts that that state has and adds that on. And obviously, the higher the population, the more house districts you have. So therefore, a really large state like California has a lot of electoral votes and a really tiny state like South Dakota has only the three . Why don't we simply add up all the votes? Well, I'll tell you why the founders didn't want that and why we shouldn't change it now We were never created as a nation in which everybody was simply under one giant blob . We are a nation of states and we allow the states to govern themselves in a lot of areas in which one state may do one thing and another state may do another . It's the same thing that we do with municipalities and cities . Milwaukee may want to do something really stupid but New Berlin might not. Well the same, is true of the states . We were set up to be a country in which states could govern themselves and we would all be part of the larger. Now there would be some things in which the federal government did have sway . That's what the Civil War was about. The Southerners couldn't keep their slaves . Likewise , there are certain things the Constitution of the United States grants all citizens certain rights that the individual states can't usurp , et cetera , but allowing individual states to have a say in a voice . This allows the people of South Dakota to have a say in who the president is. It's not a giant say because they only have the three electoral votes . But if they didn't have those , they're just a few hundred thousand votes in a presidential election in which , what? one hundred fifty how many votes for them in the last election? one hundred and seventy million, whatever it is . It means that every individual state and its thoughts and voices are heard. Now here's why the Democrats no longer like this system . Democrats have a herding instinct . They all want to live near other Democrats. This is somewhat true of Republicans as well, but not as much. The areas of the United States that are Democratic are overwhelmingly so New York City that elected Monbad i. Look at California . Take the Democratic areas of California, which would be basically around Los Angeles and around San Francisco, the two . They're overwhelmingly Democrat. The big cities in the United States are overwhelmingly Democrat . The areas that are Republican and other than say some rural areas of Kentucky where you'll see eighty five or ninety percent Republican . It's like sixty forty . Take the suburbs around here . What's Brookfield now? Maybe fifty four, forty six Republican , even a really Republican suburb like New Berlin might be sixty five, thirty five . These Democratic areas are eighty five, fifteen . So what happens is the states that are Democrat are overwhelmingly so when a Democrat wins a state like when they win New York or they win California, yes, they get all the electoral votes . But they screw up the overall total and the popular vote because so many people in that state voted that way , whereas a lot of the states that are more Republican, the margin isn't as strong , which is why the elections get determined by the swing states . If we didn't have that though , there would be no real need for any candidate to campaign at all to rural America or any of the areas that were at large. They would simply appeal to the masses in the big cities where all the numbers are because we're just going to disenfranchise any part of the country that doesn't go along . The governance of America, the way we've set the whole thing up. We have two senators from every state. It doesn't matter if you're a little state or a big state, but in the House of Representatives, it's divided entirely by population. The goal is to have representation from all corners of the country . Majorities rule in the individual elections, but they don't necessarily rule in the thing with regard to the entire country because we respect the rights of all different areas . So you have to have broad geographic appeal in order to win . It's one of the strengths of our nation . The people in Montana and Missouri don't want to be steamrolled by a bunch of Marxists . You go back a number of years, there was a time in which the electoral college worked to the advantage of the Democrats . And the Republican you go back forty, fifty years ago, the Republicans talking about getting rid of the electoral college because all of these individual states are marginally democratic end . The Republicans were getting screwed in that regard. Well, now the shoe is on the other foot . This has to be resisted in addition to that. Can you imagine if you had a closed national election and try to recount an election with one hundred seventy million votes. Look at what happened in Florida in two thousand Bush v Gore . We fought seven weeks to figure out who won that election . At least under the current system, you might have a few states that are really close where they have to recount and change the ballots. If it's the entire country, it would mean every precinct in the United States would go through this. I got a good one for you . Dan Goldman , of all the Democrats in Congress, he's I'm in I'm creating here an almost impossible to decide point who's the most obnoxious that's that's a really, really difficult question to be able to answer. But he's been he's one of the most you know, when they have the hearings, you know, where you're questioning whatever the Trump administration . Goldman, he's Democrat from New York. He's one of those he won't ask the question. He just carve up and rip the Republican . Finally, now he's on the receiving end of this. I'll explain why he's Jewish and he's a supporter of Israel. Suddenly Dan Goldman is getting a little of his own medicine. He went into like, I don't know if it was a Starbucks, but he went into some coffee shop. Did you hear about this story ? It was some local coffee shop. Goldman goes in there and tries to like buy a latte or some thing that liberals drink. And because he supports Israel, they wouldn't sell him any . In other words, he showed the same arrogant, abusive, insanely maniacal abuse was directed at him that he shown toward Republicans forever. So he went on CNN and he gave the following statement . Let me quote Goldman, who is viewed by many as the face of rage for his party and attacking anyone with oppos theing views lamented the loss of civil discourse . As I've pointed out forever, Lefties condition it out. They can't take it. And this issue of Israel and the Middle East and so on . This is the one issue that's divided the Democratic Party. There is still a lot of pro Israel Democrats, particularly Jewish Democrats. And now, obviously, there's hate and rage from the anti Semit ic wing of the left , they direct this toward Goldman and suddenly Goldman wants to have more civility in politics . This story . I'm going to play something here that is an example of a larger point . Jen Lily is I talk about, you know, there's like five celebrities in America that are Republic an. She's not even a big star . She is, however, very well spoken. She's been on soap operas and I think she's been on these Hallmark movies, which I would not know firsthand because I honestly don't think I've ever watched a Hallmark movie . Have you ? Your wife likes I don't have a wife and I don't have kids. So therefore there's never been a I mean, even when they first started maybe way back on regular TV in the sixties there was something called Home Art Hall of Fame in which they tried to do like more intelligent pro, you know, better higher brows stuff than theed regular Beverly Hillbillies and the stuff that was in. I can't say I never watched one of those, but I don't remember one . So I don't know I don't know anybody who she is other than she's very, very quick at her feet . And she's an outspoken conservative . She went on Sean Ryan's podcast and she's talking about something. I don't want to give it entirely away But she's talking about people who adopt what used to be the hardest children in the world to adopt, the older kids who've been in foster care . For instance, if somebody's adopting often because they can't have children of their own, they want a baby . Who wants a fourteen year old kid who's bounced through six foster hom es and has had a troubled background and a disciplined problem wants to adopt that. And they've been very difficult to adopt . Well , Jen Lily said she wanted to talk to the growing number of people who were actually willing to do this, thinking, these are heroes . And what she found they're not heroes at all. That's how bad people are making money out of foster care. So I go to this Option Assistant Program. Like, I'm gonna meet my new tribe of people that are adopting kids out of foster care. These people are awesome. And then I meet this one woman and she's like, Oh yeah, what you want to do is you want to get a D rate kid? I was like, What's a D rate kid? What does that mean? And she goes, Oh, honey, I make twenty thousand dollars a month off foster care. And I was like , what? And she was like, Yeah, because I have this many kids she. go Andes , here's the thing. You want to make sure they fail in school. If they fail in school and you can get them on medication, your rate goes up. Every time they don't pass a grade, your rate goes up because they're more difficult to kick. Every time they need a medication, your rate goes up. I think the intentions of increasing the rate was to incentivize good people to stick with it. What it did is incentivize all the wrong people, people who are in it for the money instead of for the love of a child. Incentivize the other way . What if they get on honor, give them a bonus? That's how bad people are making money out of foster care. All right, that was, as I said, that's Jenna Lily and she was on Sean Rand's podcast and she was talking about both adopting and the parents who have like houses full of foster children in the same way that some people hoard cats. There's some people that are hoarding the foster kids and L was findouising out in that specific example that if the kid has various problems you get more money for them . And obviously this was created because let's imagine you've got a kid with a learning disability and disciplined problems and this that and a physical disability who does want them? Have them in their home ? They're difficult . So we give more money. And the point that Lily is making is by doing this, you now have people gravitating that are taking the kids in not because they love the kids. They want a kid that has as many strikes against them because the way our system works is each thing that makes the kid less attractive either adopt or put into foster care gives you more money . This is the problem with everything that left us fund . Look at the urban public schools. The more we fail , the more money we give them because they claim we're failing because we don't give them enough money . Look at the whole Somali healthcare fraud. The Feds just indicted hundreds of people on healthcare scams in the United States. These are people that gravitate toward programs in which there's a problem not because they want to actually provide services for the problem, but get the money that we throw out aimed at the problem. So what you have here is these foster kids that have these issues, they're not better off because they're ending up in the homes of crap foster parents or crap adoptive parents . There's never an incentive to reward those that excel . And that's true about almost everything that government funds in particular liberal programs. Look at the left. All they want to do is punish success and take away from the successful and give to the unsuccessful, and I certainly understand that we have to help the poor . We have a moral obligation to do so . But we don't have a moral obligation to bankroll people who are trying to get rich off of helping the poor or the unfortunate or the disabled . Anytime we dangle money out to help unfortunate people in our society , you will have charlatans come in to try to pocket that money . I'll provide the service and we end up actually doing nothing positive for the individuals that are in need of services. Take the Somali healthcare Somali thing . They weren't providing services for anyone. They went into the buildings, they're empty . So therefore, if there was anybody in need, they weren't getting any of that money . You see the same thing going on. It used to be that no parent wanted to hear that anything was wrong with their kid . Now the line of kids are that have been given some sort of disability that qualifies the family for SSI, parents are trying as hard as they possibly can to get their kid classified as having something wrong with them so they can get an SSI. I think that part of not the entirety, but certainly part of the autism problem is parents want their kids to be designated as being on the spectrum because the financial rewards come in . And again, none of this means that there aren't people who actually have disabilities or are autistic . But the incentive is to have your kid have as many problems as possible if a paycheck comes accompanying that problem. You're listening to the Mark Belling podcast. 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They didn't have the regular cap . I think it still has the S and the F on it, doesn't it? That's what the Giants had forever . Which was a takeoff of the old New York Giant Cap, which had an N and a Y . So they had this Pride Night Cap. There are a handful of giants players who are Christian . So they inscribed a Bible verse on the cap. They still wore the cap, but they inscribed a Bible verse on it. The commissioner of Major League Baseball, Rob Manfred threatened them saying, We've got a uniform policy. You can't change the uniform at all. This has resulted in Senator Hawley of Missouri and the Trump administration threatening Major League Baseball saying that you are standing in the way of the religious freedom of these individual people. And the thing is now blowing up . You've got the San Francisco Giant organization, which doesn't want to back down because of the overwhelming number of gades that are in that area. You have Major League Baseball that's posing for holy pictures. It doesn't want to back down , but you also have the legitimate fear here of the Trump administration coming in and cracking down on you for abusing the rights of these Christian athletes who were simply trying to do something. They didn't even refuse to put on the cap, which I'm sure they would have loved to have done. They wanted to at least put in something indicating where their true desires and beliefs are. Here's the problem. And here's how this could be of what everybody in the world has a right to have whatever view you want to have, stupid, enlightened, whatever it is, and just about anything, including gender . When you make everybody put on the cap, you're making all of them to adhere to some body else's viewpoint . Why do you have to have a cab ? Just have the damn pride night . I, by the way, was at the Brewers Pride Night this year . I was at the game because it was a game on a Friday night. It happened to be the game in which Mizarelsky threw the incredible nine inning shutoff, the one hit one batter away from a perfect game, faced the minimum the whole thing. The brewers put a few things up on the scoreboard with regard to the pride thing . Other than that, I couldn't tell what was going on . Now, the brewers had a backlash a few years ago when they had a drag queen thing and so on and many people including me . So this is just ridiculous. People are bringing families in there. They don't want to see this. So they backed off. They have the Pride night thing and it's the same as when they have Kiwaskum night or any other night. They'll have a thing and they'll have something over in some corner of the ballpark for people who want to take part in it and so on. And it doesn't intrude on anyone. They didn't have like a uniform. They didn't have any of that. Here's the thing . You know who Pride Night should be for ? People who are proud of whatever it is that you're that you're having . It doesn't have to include the people who aren't proud of LGBTQ plus. I'm not an LGBTQ plus I don't think I'm in any of those alphabet things. So therefore I don't have a damn thing to be proud of with regard to this. So why would I have to put on the cap ? When you try to enforce people to believe a certain way , and that way that you're trying to force them to believe butts into their religious viewpoints, their social viewpoints, or in some cases their common s , you create all of these crises that are avoidable . You're telling everyone else that they have to adhere . Well, don't force everybody else to adhere . Now this is one of the whole problems with the whole Pride Night thing. And by the way, there's this is starting to fade. There's been a pretty big backlash growing for many gays themselves who say they're embarrassed by Pride Night celebrations because they tend not to embrace regular old gay people who don't dress weird and don't act weird and don't have pink hair and so on, that they're embarrassed by people who use these opportunities to simply act out that it creates an impression of all people in all of the alphabets , that they're all half looney as opposed to regular old people who have different preferences with regard to sexuality, lifestyle, or whatever . There are people who say there are no coincidences . I'll see this like in movies and I'll see this with political theorists when they try to , sometimes conspiracy theorists, there are no coincidences, there are no coincidences, there are no coincidences. Yes, it's co likeincidences . If you flip a coin nine times in a row and it turns out heads, it might be because there's something wrong with the coin . Or it might just be that you are at a rare occurrence that nine times that heroic came up heads. The reason it hardly ever happens is because the odds against it are extreme, but they aren't non existent. It's the whole point of these megabucks slotteries. Your chances of winning are one and nine hundred seventy two million. Well, if you have more than that number of tickets , there's going to be the occasional person who hits it . Yes, there are coincidences The I'm doing this podcast Wednesday afternoon for point of explanation . On Monday night, Brandon Woodworth and Milwaukee Brewers pitched six innings gave up one hit , no runs , struck out ten , walked none , and entered the sixth inning with a no hitter. Tuesday night the following night , Brandon Sprouted the Milwaukee Brewers pitched six innings , gave up exactly one hit , gave up no runs , struck out ten , walked nobody and entered the sixth inning with no hitter. First of all, those stat lines are very, very rare to have that kind of a dominant game. Secondly, they pitched the exact number of innings. They had the exact same number of strikeouts. Neither of them walked anybody. Both of them yielded one hit. Both in both cases, the hit occurred at the sixth setting. There were a couple of distinctions in the game. There was an odd ball based runner that occurred with regard proe Ddeso who was wiped out at a double play . Woodruff gave up the one hit had actually had a perfect game going into it, but you had almost identical weird stack lines by brewer pitchers back to back . Beyond that, they're both type Brandon. I know the name Brandon is really big among people between say twenty four and thirty four. It also took on a secondary meeting with a whole Joe Biden thing. Brandon is, it's like the name Mark. You see somebody named Mark , they're in my area of age group. Mark was just huge when I was a kid. It was kind of the whole thing in which a lot of the New Testament writers' names that came in vogue for parents to hand out and there were a lot of Marks, there are a lot of Johns, there's a lot of Paul's in my area. But how many do you know anybody named Mark under the age of forty years old, Jason? No , the name's gone away. Well, it's just like all the J names or these guys that are in their forage like you. The J names that Jason's and Joshua's and all of that that came , that had the huge, huge, huge rude. Well, anyway, the Brandon got in there. So the two breweries that pitched these things and back to back knights are both named Brandon, Woodruff, veteran, and Sprout , who was acquired in the Freddy Peralta trade. Now the thing that makes it not entirely coincidental is the brewers have the best pitching coach in all of Major League Baseball. Chris Hook makes everybody better, and I will admit, I thought earlier this year than when Brandon Wood would flung out there and was throwing eighty eight miles an hour fastballs so the dead hour I said it',s done . He's done. He's lost his arm. Usually don't recover from that. He's recovered from that. He got up to ninety four and he was unhitable in his appearance . You got a guy like Sprode who has struggled and pitched only a little bit in his first season with the Mets last year . You give Chris Hook enough time with him. He will make him better in the same way that he took Kyle Harrison, who had been an underachie ver, former first round draft choice and has made him one of the best hitters in baseball this year. Look at Jacob Mizarowski who last year was unbelievably fast, but at no control, he now has some of the best control of all of baseball. So the non coincidental part of this is that the brewers have a pitching coach who's just off the charts beyond that . To have two pitching performances like this in back to back games is quite remarkable and now this there are certain stories that when you see the story , you have to stick, you know, some people just are not analytical people . People say that I'm overly analytical. You can't be overly analytical. The more analytical you are, the better. It is a wonderful trait and I possess it. So I see a story at I can't just swallow it The world's most powerful super computer is in Racine Mount Pleasant, which is a suburb of Racine. But it's Racine County county . I mean, if you would have fifteen years ago, if somebody would have asked you in the year twenty twenty six, where is the most powerful supercomputer on planet Earth going to be? Who the hell would it? First of all, nobody's even going to say Wisconsin. Racing County . Even with this, I read this story fifteen times like they must there must be some asterisk in there like supercomputer in the c ertain type of super computing is no , I mean, they've got there's a monstrous big data center that's built in Southern Racine County. It's only the early stages of a total buildout . It's the originalal Scott Wker Foxcom plan morphed into Microsoft Building it's probably going to end up being one of the largest data center campuses on planet Earth and one of the most powerful and unlike the data centers almost everywhere else there's been very little complaining about this one other than there's a noise that comes off but in people who live a little close by a bitchet about the noise but beyond that . So anyway that's where it is I have a mother who's from Rasin. I dated a woman once in Rasin. I've been to Rasin a lot. When you think of Rasin, you simply never thought of being thought of massively powerful supercomputers . Kind of think of Italians a bit, but that's really more of a Kinosha thing for Kinosha Kinosha must have more Italian restaurants per populace than anywhere side of Italy. And know this story . I got this because somebody tipped me off to it because no, I am first of all, I'm not on Facebook. I have a Facebook account with nothing on it so that I can go into Facebook and see other things if there's a need to be there. But I don't check out people's Facebook pages. I'm not into Facebook One of those things that you either are or you aren't. My old producer Paul was insanely obsessed with Facebook . Every topic idea he would bring to me would be something that he found on Facebook, including by the way, some fake ones. Are you a Facebook guy? So you're like me. You almost have to have an account to be on, especially if you're in our business where you want to report on things because there's content that's in there and somebody newsworth. And anyway , let's take a tip drop to this. Deb Andraka. Now in my post on X, I called her dopy debandraca. That might be considered to be too mean. Is that too mean ? Jason , is it too mean to call Dev anda Dra dokpy Devronac Da . You know , I mean, maybe it is . She's basically just another , you know, the term North Shore and Nancy came around, that's what she is. She's one of these liberal women on the North Shore and that area has become somewhat democratic and she got elected to the state legislature. I mean, she's nowhere near as dopey as most Democrats, but I call it just it's alliteration. Her first name is Deb. I call it dopey Devon Dragon. Well, yesterday was the anniversary of the signing of Title II . Title II was the Federal Act , different than law, the act that guaranteed equal athletic opportunities for girls and women . It's become an act that is actually now embraced more by conservatives than liberals because it's being used to fight back against fake men men claiming they're women who are going in and boggarding their way into women's sports. Nonetheless , it was a major achievement. And before we had Title IX, I mean , there were a lot of high schools that might have had only three or four sports that they offered for girls. A lot of universities had like eighteen different sports that were men and maybe five that are women . Given the fact that the overwhelming majority of sports are not money makers, there's no reason why high school girls shouldn't have the same opportunity to play tennis as high school boys and so on . So Title IX was an act and yesterday was the fifty fourth anniversary. So Dev and Draka because liberals just can't allow days like this to go on without then making some pompous statement about it posted the following. She posted on Facebook with a picture below. Today marks the fifty fourth anniversary of the passage of the landmark Federal Civil Rights Law Title nine. Title nine was created to address disparities in education in sports for women and girls and to ensure equal access and opportunity while we celebrate this critical law and the progress made here at the slifties . We must continue our fight for equality for all people denied equal opportunities. And then she shows a picture she thought of Title II being signed. Now in thinking this , I actually have not figured out how she's made this mistake . And below it, there's a picture of, you know, one of those signings of law that you see, you know, Trump, you'll see him signing something president's forever. They sign it. And there's always like a bunch of people standing behind him when they sign it . And there's a bunch of people standing around and Linda Vains Johnson signing this . Now, I understand and you know, I've knocked on this the absolute total lack of understanding of rather contemporary history . And I've always ascribed it to history teachers never finished the class on time when I was a kid, but they never got into even World War two . They just they fall behind in the class and they never get up to the really, really recent history. So I just have assumed that that's the problem with people in the current era that they never get past the Great Depression. Now they probably get to World War two , but they're not aware of the areas of the civil rights movement of the sixties or Vietnam or Watergate or any of those things . There's that . Except the thing of it is those two decades were so huge in American history, so transformative, it so much happened . And so much of it's still discussed to this day and so many YouTube videos on it. So all dopey Deb had to do is math . twenty twenty six minus fifty four is nineteen seventy two . And unless she knows nothing, Lyndon Johnson was not the president in nineteen seventy two . Richard Nixon was . And indeed, Petal Nine was signed by President Richard Nixon, a Republican and not Lyndon Johnson, a Democrat . So how did she end up putting this picture of Johnson on there? That's the part that I just can't figure out because if she goes on to find some historical picture of the signing of Title II, that one would not have come up . Johnson signed into law many of the civil rights laws, a lot of the Civil Rights Act of sixty four, et cetera. Those things happened at his administration. The movement started during Kennedy, but after Kennedy was killed, we passed a lot of the landmark civil rights laws in the nineteen sixties and Johnson was the president and he signed a lot of them. But this was a separate thing. It didn't have anything to do with race. It had to do with sports for girls and women. And it was actually signed by Nixon in nineteen seventy two. So I've not figured out how she made the mistake . And why she didn't catch it , either she can't do math, which is very, very possible , or she didn't know when Johnson was the president and thought Johnson was the president in the seventies. But if you think that , then that means you didn't know that it was the Vietnam War ended during Nixon. It also means you don't really know when Watergate happened because Watergate was Nixon . It's a really stupid, stupid mistake. So somebody tipped this off to me. So rather than let it slide, I immediately took a screenshot and posted it on X. So if you'd like to see the original thing, you can go to my account on X, which is Mark Felling Show . And I've got a post on that there with the original picture. By the way, hours went by. By this morning on her Facebook page, she took it down and she has a photo of Nixon signing something It's possible that this can be some ning kom poop staffer. Members of the legislature have gotten in trouble forever with nink poop staffers posting on their social media accounts . See, Trump doesn't let that happen. When you see a post on truth social by Trump, it's always Trump. The tip off is when there's capital letters all over the place, you know that's Trump . So she might just have some dopey staff. And here's the thing about legislative staffers. Half of them are dumb I just speak from experience of this Republican and Democrat . The other half though aren't, and some are really sharp, but a good half of them are dumb. I think maybe more than half on the Republican side are dumb, but there's a number that are really sharp and the ones that are really sharp are disgusted with how dumb some of them are. You know, okay, you're some Democrat. You're hired out of college, you got a staff and job on Devon Drock staff, title nine and so forth and so on. And you put this picture up, I still don't know how you get a picture of a different president because whenever you go in, whether it's getty images or any of the sources that you can use to commemorate something , there wouldn't have been you would search for Title IX signing, right? Unless she just took a picture, a generic picture of Johnson signing something. Maybe this is Johnson signing one of the civil rights laws and was too lazy to find the actual Title nine signing or maybe there's no photo of it. So now she's got a picture of Nixon signing something. I don't even know if it's Nixon signing Title nine, maybe it's Nixon signing something else, but she had to replace the she of course never admitted a mistake but it's somebody who gets called at every single one of my dumb mistakes and I make quite a few of them. There's no way I'm ducking this. Now I gotta get to this story . As you know, I'm a major critic of the organization that runs high school sports in the state of Wisconsin. They have ninety seven million rules, but in the play that they don't need, but where you need a rule, they just can't seem to do it. And it has just frustrated almost everyone who is a lover of basketball, especially high school basketball, that there's still no shot clock . Some of these games just become they're antithetical to what basketball is. Basketball is a game in which you have to get off a possession within a certain period of time. When it was invented when they had the peach baskets, they didn't have one, but the NBA has had the shock clock in maybe even from the beginning. Certainly it was on when I started watching in the sixties. And college went to a shock clock shortly after that. So you're tracked basically at least sixty years that at virtually every level of basketball there's a shock clock . Furthermore, just about every sport has a clock that requires you to take an action baseball finally got around to having one. But high school basketball some of these games end up just being a mockery of the game where some team just decides to pull the ball back and hold it for five or six or seven minutes and you end up without the kids actually competing in actual basketball, which is a possession where you attempt to score and a defense where you intend to score. It also means that when you get down to say two, three, four minutes left in a game, teams just follow, follow, follow because unlike say in the NBA, you got to shoot within twenty four seconds. You only follow when you're way at the end. Or in college with the thirty second thing, they start following with a minute or so and so on In high school, they've got to fall three, four minutes out, especially if they don't think that they can steal the ball that are going into these things . So the WA has not yet fully gone out of the shot click, but they're saying that schools now can individually experiment in non conference games . Do you know the excuse that I've heard as to why they don't have it? Now you're from Illinois. I don't do they have anything in Illinois so they're moving it in gradually here. Here's the excuse I've heard. We don't have enough staff to run the shock clock. Ah for crying out loud. Do you understand how much money we put into the schools? Now I do get this. They probably don't have enough for grade school. Secondly, somebody that runs a shot clutch, you can't have an idiot doing it. You know, pretty much anybody can run the scoreboard. Somebody scores a basket, you put up two or three points. The hardest thing of running the scoreboard in basketball is actually turning the clock on when there's an inbound play and turning it off when it's not. I mean, sometimes you'll see people that are bad at that. They don't stop the clock in time or a ball is inbound and it comes on two seconds later. With regard to the shot clock, you got to be quick on the finger, but even if you're off by a second, it's still better than not having a shot clock. And then they wind, well, we'd have to invest in putting the clocks up. Those things are nowhere near as expensive as they used to be. Put a couple on the top of the backboard and so on. So we're finally moving in that direction, which I think would be a massive step forward. And some people say, I'm a purist. Purist . They haven't played the game this way since like World War two . I don't know when the NBA started and the NBA might have actually had it from the very beginning. If not, it was really early on because you know, I'm old. And I first started watching the NBA in the sixties when the Game of the Week was on the other and they sh hadot clock ed in, and it was always twenty four seconds. College, I don't think it was, I think it might have been thirty five before it went to thirty. And what they're talking in high school is thirty five I think twenty four is ideal. I mean basketball is not the cour t's only ninety four feet long in the NBA and in high school it's usually eighty four. You can't get a shot off at twenty four seconds. I mean for crying out loud . fifty nineteen fifty four was the NBA so that was right after it started. The NBA think started in the late forties, there were a couple of leagues that were out there, but almost from the very beginning. All right , the Milwaukee Bucks are in the middle of one of the greatest transformations in the history of the franchise . Yonas is gone . Zillions of new players and draft choices are in the bucks pick two players in the NBA draft. In the next segment we're going to have a brief round table discussion. I'm not I always love it when the media 's experts say there isn't any expert that's going to come in here. We're going to bring in Hunter and Arman and Jason is going to come in. None of us are experts, but we are all intelligent and well informed. Me more so than the rest of you, but we're going to size up where the bucks are and what we think about how they have what about the moves that they have made in this new Posianas era on the Mark Belling podcast. How much would it take for you to be wealthy and financially comfortable? Schwab recently asked Americ ans that question most said at least two million dollars . You might have a different number for yourself, makes sense, since you have your own ideas about travel, retirement, and the legacy you want to leave. That means you need custom advice building a personalized plan. The team at Annex Wealth Management is ready to listen and help. Annex Wealth Management give them a call. Know the difference . This is the Mark Belling podcast. The Milwaukee Bucks, as everybody knows , finally traded Yanas. This has been rumored for years and years and years and we're not going to look backwards here as everybody in the media does because they're always two weeks behind the story and they're doing all of these retrospectives. We're going to look forward. We're not going to discuss whether or not it should have happened. It was going to happen because Yanis needed to leave Milwaukee. The bucks needed for him to leave. So the bucks ended up trading Yanasana Decumpo to the Miami Heat in exchange for four players and three draft choices and a draft swap and so on. And this all happened only a few hours before the NBA draft or the bucks last night had two picks. So to help me discuss all of this, we have two guys from IHR Media Sports, Hunter Bomgard and Armin Sarian. Did I say your last name right, Armin? You did. Thanks Marc. I was close to it close to it in there. And they work on AM nine hundred twenty and also do things for all of the stations here and you're doing streaming stuff and so on, but the two of the sports guys that work for the company. The first thing that I want to address is I think a giant misconception that's out there and that is that the bucks are now going to do what a lot of teams have been doing in the NBA , which is tank. There are teams that have used tanking, in other words, stink for three years and have gotten very good. It's what Oklahoma City did. It's what San Antonio did. It's what Detroit did. You stink for a few years and you go two or three years of getting the number one or number two pick in the draft you end up with great players and then you get good again . It's gotten so bad that the league is even imposing rules to end tanking. However , the bucks might be bad , but it will not be intentional . The bucks do not have any of their own draft choices . The only advantage of tanking is you get good choices in the following draft. Whatever draft cho ices the bucks have will be draft choices they acquire from other teams because all of their picks are gone . So there is no incentive at all for the bucks to deliberately be bad. There's every incentive for them to be , I think, as good as they can be while they try to return to some level of greatness. So that's my initial thought on this. Let's start with Armin. Any thoughts? You're absolutely right, Mark. Actually, the NBA is instituting new lottery rules to try and prevent tanking. So it even makes it more disadvantaged advantageous to try and lose to actually you said may get a better selection. It's actually just a better chance at a better selection, but you're right, they don't have a first round pick next year. So unless unless they made another trade to acquire a team's pick and that's something that could also change because it could be a protected pick or not a protected pick. But it's that would be dependent on what that team's record is not and not the bucks. So they wouldn't even be there'd be no advantage of tanking. So in the short term, at least for next year, you're absolutely right. There's no reason to do anything but try and play your best and win as much as possible. Win as much as you can with an overall picture toward trying long term to be better , but there's zero upside to deliberately be bad, hunter. Yeah, and it's not always the case where you see a trade like that go down and then twenty four hours later, you already kind of are excited about two new young players that they were able to draft in the first round and especially for Bux fans necessarily used to picking not only just picking in the first round, but having a couple of prospects that you're excited about and to kind of build around and see what they can do in this first year. So it might be kind of a quicker not that they're going to go back to where they were with Yannis and Drew Holiday and Chris Middleton in the glory days, so to speak right away , but this may be a little quicker of an excitement coming back to Bucks fans. All right, let's before we get to the draft, assess the trade they made. The bucks apparently really had only two options out there and it's premised on Yannis has one year left in his contract. They had to trade him now where he would have left at the end of the year and got nothing. And any team that trades for Janis wants to sign him to a four year extension, which they're able to do in a few months. And Yanis has some control over this. He was willing to go to Boston. He was willing to go to Miami. So those were the two teams that were on the table. They had an opportunity to trade for another superstar in Jayalen Brown from Boston and get maybe a draft pick or two in addition to that. They opted instead to trade for four decent enough young players to the Miami Heat and get three draft choices, one of which was in last night's draft, the number thirteen pick in the draft. Let's start with the taking the Boston route, Jaylen Brown and replacing Yanos with another superstar as opposed to the Miami thing. I'll start with Hunter on this one. Do you think that they picked the right deal? I think they did. I think if you were getting Jaylen Browne back, you're kind of doing a little bit of what you did before where you're kind of building around one guy again. And I think this organization is probably ready to say, let's let's have this be a team again. Not that Yanis wasn't a good team player and everything, but let's all be honest and everything that's come out and everything they're they're tailoring to what Yannis wanted a lot of the time. And I think it was okay well Jaylene Brown's finally going to get his team. That was kind of the narrative if they took the Boston deal. And so I think they were like, you know what? Let's just, let's kind of clean house, have this be a team again. We got a new coach in Taylor Jenkins who's good at developing young talent. Let's go that route. You have draft picks to acquire those young players and also some development . Would you have taken the Boston deal or the Miami deal? Miami for sure only because you get the most quantity of young assets to eventually build around, whether it's draft picks or if you remember the, four players Miami got got the bucks from Miami were all their first round picks at some point. Tyler Hero of course being the best of the group. He has the local tie. Now Tyler has one year left of control. You'd have to make a decision there if you don't try to trade him, but the advantage would have been short term with the Jalen Brown choice with the Celtics because he's a more marketable star and he has a better chance to get you possibly to a play in or the playoffs next year. That being said is it a long term solution? I don't think so the two picks that Boston was going to give in addition were just weren't enough. So to me, the right the right move was to take Miami's offer because it was better. Also, a lot of bucks fans, I think would much rather Yana Speed in Miami than Boston, which they consider a bigger rival. Maybe that's an opinion, but I think some people think that. Well, I live part of the year of Miami, which I don't I would rather have the heat not do good because all they do is argue with the people that are down there. But I initially thought that there was some sense to the Jaylen Brown trade because I was not impressed with the players that Miami was initially offering. But here's the thing , I think the bucks played Pat Riley in Miami when Boston came into the p icture, the bucks, I think were able to juice up the deal. They were able to pick up Jackassonius, who was the number one pick last year, guard, who's only nineteen years old and get him in the deal. I don't think Miami wanted to give him up. They were able to make sure that Heime Jazquez, who was the second place voter in the six man choice were in this. So I think that they improved the deal beyond that. If you get Jaylen Brown here and he doesn't want to be here, it's the same thing as with Yanis. In addition to that, and this is why bucks fans who didn't think that it was time for this to happen, first of all, Yanis' agent said Yannis wanted out and that's now confirmed. But secondly, the bucks were going nowhere with Yanis and the cast of characters that were there. So why would they go anywhere with Jaylene Brown and the cast of characters that were there? You have to, I think, go a different route. As for what they got , I think that the talent level that they get in is pretty good. They're a guard heavy team, I think . The key here to me is they got Tyler Harrell, who's a kid that went to high school that Whitnell, who's a true NBA star. He scores more than twenty points a game. He is, however, in the last year of his contract . I think it is overwhelmingly likely he's not a long term buck. I think that they're going to trade Tyler Hero and they may trade him in the middle of the season to a contender who's looking for a guy like him for half a year to put them over the top and win a championship and they may get a number one pick then they would get a number one pick for him and maybe two if they trade him in the middle of the season to a team looking for a final piece. As it stands for Miami, the bucks did not get the next pick from the first round that they get from Miami is in twenty thirty. They go in this year, but they're still this gap of picks in twenty seven, twenty eight and twenty nine and Tyler Harrow can be turned into this. So I think that the combination of players that they got , these aren't mutts. They're it's very comparable, I think to what the bucks got for Korean fifty fifty sixty years ago. So I thought they got pretty good talent here. Yeah, I think with the Tyler Hero thing, you want I too. I would be I would be surprised if he's a buck at the end of this coming season because I think he's probably traded like you said, either either now, you know, in the next couple weeks as the offseason begins or during the season and during the season you can kind of showcase him a little bit and may get a little more because he's going to be one of your main guys if not your main scorer with how the roster sits now and they're not going to sign Tyler to a long term contract because frankly, I don't think he's a franchise defining player. He's a really good player but he's, going to get a max contract from somebody. The only downside on this is the bucks now have like five or six pretty good shooters . They don't need somebody who's going to come in and ball hog in this situation and if Tyler felt I'm the best player here, this is my team, you would run, you would run the risk of that . Let's now go to the NBA draft. The bucks handed up with two picks in what was described as an extrem ely deep draft, the tenth and the thirteenth pick. And they chose a guy who isn't the same kind of player, but I'll describe him as a honest and Nate Ament who is a forward tall six, ten or so, although they hype everybody in college in their hype from Tennessee who I think is not particularly NBA ready right now, but he's got all these physical tools and if he dedicates himself could really develop. And they picked a guard from Arizona with the tenth pick in the draft, who's more NBA ready. You guys follow college basketball really closely. So let's go I'm going to do one each one of them individually. Hunter do you want to take Amand or do you want to take Burris? I will go with Burry's Burry's is the guard that was picked with the tenth pick in the draft. Many people thought that he would not be available when the bucks were there. The bucks had the advantage this year of there being a lot of great guards in this draft . For sure. And I think this is a guy who's going to get a lot of playing time early. I think he' s a guy who is probably going to be in that rotation, kind of build himself up and I'm fascinated to see how his rookie year goes. He played in a really good Arizona team last year a team that was consistently in it for one of the top teams in the nation all season long made a run in the in the NCAA tournament. So he knows how to win. And I'm excited for a guy who can kind of showcase his talents in throughout this season because the bucks have not had this type of talent come straight from the draft that I think is going to play consistently. Yeah, I agree Hunter. I think the advantage of taking him there was he has the most potential in terms of upside. The thing about I like about Ament is his size potential. That's the player that they the buck scot at thirteen and he had a lot of responsibility at Tennessee on both ends. He was getting hunted a lot by defensive schemes. So in that sense, I think he had to grow up quick a lot. And I think he gave the bucks what they needed, which is a mix of size and athleticism with some potential to be a two way player. And the nice thing about him at thirteen was I think there was this thought that the bucks would not get the chance to get him at thirteen . I wanted them to pick him at ten at ten I think my thought forever in the NBA draft is if you're not in the top five , you swing for the fences and take a chance that you're going to get a guy who's way better , which is exactly what Yannis was. What was Yannis? thirteen, twelve. I want to say fifteen or fifteen guy with no experience at all from G reece, but had all of these tools and people say it was a brilliant pick, which it was. But it was brilliant because Janis became insanely dedicated to being the best basketball player that he could possibly be. Some of them smoked pot and never develop into anything. And the same is going to be true with anybody in this. I think that the upside for Ament is really, really high. So I loved the fact that they were able to get him. When one of the elite guards in the draft that was available at ten, I think it was a no brainer because when you saw what was going on, you know you had a good chance to get a ment when he was thirteen. I think the bucks had a home run of a draft here. Yeah, I like for the right two guys for the spot they were at. They got the value they wanted because I think they didn't expect a men to be available and he was. So therefore they got two guys they probably targeted and to your point Mark, I think that the, you know, there's a call lottery for reason. You have to get a little lucky when you have these picks . You you draft the potential based on the best information you have to project these guys and you hope that that work out and a lot of that has to do with luck and I think there's a lot of randomness to it. So some of the best players the bucks have gotten in the draft in the last thirty years were second round picks, Michael Red was a second round pick, Malcolm Bragon was the second round pick. The only great first round pick that they've gotten to this entire period was actually Yannis. And closing all of this up, the bucks still have some play ers here with uncertain futures. Bobby Portus was going to go because there's no need anymore as popular as he was to have a guy who's over thirty still in the bucks who draws something of a paycheck. Kyle Kmuaz's still here . He seems to be a mismatch for the franchise and where it's going. They also still have Miles Turner who they gave a lot of money to still on the team. Do you think the bucks keep those two guys and can they mesh with the younger players that are being brought in from Miami and via the draft? Well really quick. I'll start with Miles Turner. I think they have to keep Miles Turner because I think at this point you've already pot committed to him with all that money and his trade value is pretty much nil right now because he had such a bad year. You have to bring him back. You hope he finds a way to fit in with a new group and a new coach and provide you something to what he did in his later years in Indiana, which was quality rim running, rim protection and three point shooting. He did none of that with the bucks this year. Obviously, it seemed to be an awkward fit. He was a bad fit apparently with Yannis. You since found out is he's pointed out that Yanis had become a giant pain in the ass. So the only reason Turner's bringing that up is because he didn't think that he meshed in well with Yannis. What about what about Kyle Cousma? Yeah, I have a by the way, I can tell you, Kyle Kuzma wanted to be the portous in this deal in the worst way. Kyle Cousma lives in Miami. He's a salt beach kind of guy. He wanted to be in this trade and not Bobby Portus. He wanted to go down there and be part of all of this, but he's still in Milwau kee. He's such an unusual player. He can have great games and bad games. My comment on it is simply he's good at one thing, going to the basket and slashing. He's like Yannis only not as good as Yannis. He can't shoot that well . He's only an okay defender. He's only an okay rebunder , but he can be a great score if he accepts his role which is that of a role player. Do you see them getting rid of him to get somebody else as long as we're getting rid of everybody here or do you think he's going to stick around? Yeah, when you first asked the question, I kind of thought, okay, one of two players, Miles Turner or Kyle Cousma will probably be traded. But like you said, Armin, it's going to be tough to trade Turner right now. So Kuzma's more of the option to trade. Do you try to package him with a hero if you're going to do that before the season or do you go into the season with these guys with the thought in the back of your mind? Okay, let's see if we can get him to a contender at the trade deadline and see if we can maybe get a little more than maybe Cousma plays a little better with the ball in his hands a little more Tyler Heroes the same way. So I have a feeling that again kind of Cousma's the same way where I would be surprised if he's with the bucks at the end of the season, but he might be there to start the , there's two groups of fans here . People who casually pay attention to the bucks and that's a lot of the people who spent a lot of money to go to the games. They went to the games because they wanted to see Yannis who they didn't see much of last year . I think their level of interest in the bucks declines. And then there's the super NBA fans who are really into the team . I think they're going to be energized by this, especially if the team doesn't stink. You're just thoughts in general on where the bucks fit in now and interest in Milwaukee with a bunch of players that the casual fan has never heard of any of them. You hit it on the head, Mark in that the value to the bucks the last ten years was Diana to Bucks fans and especially the masses, the casual fans, the ones that they struggled to get so many years to come to the Bradley Center before Fry Surf was built. Was the stardom? Was the potential for winning? Was the true attraction of a true star player that could help you and eventually did win a championship bring that level of energy to the brought in casual fans, you know, people that would never have known a bucks player on the Rosder in Movianas . But if you are if you are a fan that loves the bucks no matter what and you're there, you'll be energized by seeing a new young group of fresh start and fresh set of eyes and a new coach that gives new hope, right to a franchise whose direction was trying to hang onto a closing window at the end. And let's face it, a long, a lot of frustration last year about what would happen to Yanus. And a lot of uncertainty that frustrated a lot of fans. Also, Mark, I think the tickets might go down a little bit for some people that wanted to go bucks game and couldn't. I mean, they 've already booked in and people that just I don't even sit in the front row. I'm in rot tene behind the bucks bench. When I tell people how much I pay per one ticket , yeah, they can't they can't believe it, but that's just the NBA more than any sport we have is able to command a massive price for the good ticket. Now the corner of the upper deck is still a cheap ticket, but in the first year people already locked in on that, but single game things, probably lots of discounts. Let me throw it this way to Hunter. Part of it is how good or how bad they're going to be . Is this a sixteen and sixty six team or is this a team that might go forty one and forty one and get a chance to sneak into the playoffs. Well, we all remember how tough last season was and they still won thirty nine games. So I think that's something to think about. And of course they had Yanus for some of it. He was hurt for some of it, but I do think that this is a team that with how they're built is yeah, I don't think they're winning sixteen games. I think they're winning more like in that three thousand five hundred forty range and maybe depending how you know bad the East is could you be in it because there's ten teams that now get in the I mean four of those getting play in, but you're you're at least getting in the postseason so to speak. Maybe you are in contention for one of those spots if you do get upwards of forty, forty five wins. So I don't think this is a horrible team. I think at times they'll be entertaining, but I kind of see it as a similar record to last year at least to start out until these guys develop and they really get who you're a five hundred team it means you win more than half your home games and that will keep fans happy if they have a chance. Do you think they can be that good or is that pine I think it's more likely than not that they are under five hundred and they're not very good. But I doubt they'll be awful because of the players they're getting back and because it's important to remember in the games Yannis played last year. They were seventeen and nineteen. They weren't necessarily so much better with Yannis. I think that that team uniquely and specifically under Doc Rivers inconsistent leadership felt more comfortable playing together without Yannis for those long stretches. And when he came back, it was an awkward fit. They didn't know what to do. I think it's possible with the right culture setting and the right identity from Taylor Jenkins and if they find the right mix of talent, especially if Tyler provides the scoring that they could definitely win thirty two to thirty eight games and maybe be in the mix for a play in. I think it's less likely than not, but I think it's possible . I think they can be okay because I think they're better than they were this year because Yanus wasn't there. It wasn't there. It wasn't there half the time and things just internally , a we m'essre, the challenge will be to get all of these players to figure out how to work with one another. It helps it. Four of them are coming from the same team . And some of the other holdovers are there . The one big problem they have is every team has a go to guy , even bad teams . I don't know who the bucks go to guy is. If he stays in the roster, Tyler Heroes going to think that it's Tyler, maybe Miles Turner thinks it should be himbe. C Mousayman thinks it should be hid. It could be one of the guards. I mean they have they have quarterback. I mean, he's he can be an elite scorer they Yeah. They have I'm losing the name of the other guard, the baby baby face guard, the guy that emerged that had a really good year. Rollins run Bran. Yeah , he can score the ball as well. Yeah , but those are who we all know at the end of the game the ball was likely to go to Yannis. Nobody has any idea who that's going to be this time around, but I think they have a good coach. I think that they've made a pretty good start in what it is that they need to do and they're not going to have to do the thing that Detroit had to do and OKC had to do and so many other teams do and stink and one final thought of this I know why Miami did this. Miami is a city that wants to have a champion and Pat Riley's in his eighties. He wants one last chance at it. I think they over paid . I also think that Yannis is a terrible risk . He couldn't stay healthy with Milwaukee this year. The style of play that he has tear at the basket with abandon is a massive injury risk. And he's now over thirty in those cartilage and tendons that were so I mean this is the guy who tore his ACL in a playoff game, but it was torn, but it didn't tear because he's got cartilage that is so strong and ligaments that are so strong. They didn't care. You looked at his knee in that Brooklyn game and it was all over the place and it didn't I don't know that going to Miami and being over thirty that he's not going to be a guy that's constantly hurt that he's Anthony Davis or somebody like that. So I think it's a terrible risk and they gave up a whole lot for him and even after doing it, I don't think anybody thinks that Miami is going to win the NBA Championship. You know, the big risk is the injury obviously with Yanus. I think the thing was Pat Riley's white whale was Yanus. He wanted to get him for a while. He was willing to give it up and try and make this run with him and Bam. Now they have to try and build a team around them because they don't have too many guys left . But that risk is real and it's there. However, if he is healthy and everyone's saying because he didn't play in Europe this summer, he might be more refreshed, motivated if he can stay healthy. I think don he''ts one of the best but what, they do at the guard position, they have a lot of questions to answer. But the east can be wide open as well. The thing about a white whale for going back twenty years as a buckstand, the guy that I always wanted to be a buck was Gary Payton. I thought he was the best defensive guard in the history of the game, an unbelievably tough competitor. I wanted to be a buck. I wanted the glove. I wanted the glove. I wanted the glove. And we got him too late. Yeah. He was half washed up. Yannis at twenty seven isn't going to be Yanis at thirty one and a while I worry about Yannis at thirty three and thirty four. He's not a typical player in that he never loafs. You can, you know, Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant knew how to take it easy for a couple of periods in a game. Yanis is constantly playing at full tilt and that's a risk of an injury . Overall, did the bucks handle this transition grade on a scale of zero to ten being they made the best you possibly could of it. zero, they butchered it entirely. I'll start with Hunter. It's hard to give it a ten just because you're trading away, Yanism. And I would h haveope that given that that was a given if that was going to leave. Okay , then I yeah, I give it probably a good solid eight or so you know, I think I think it's tough to say because it's like what exactly does Yanis quantify in a return in a trade, right? It's hard to quantify that and say that's exactly what they should have gotten . But I would say about eight out of ten. I'd say eight as well or eight and a half just because I think given the situation , which was untenable. The fact is John Horse still played the Celtics and heat against each other to get the most value out of it that he could . The irony is that Yannis could have been more verbal and more public about his intentions to sign a long term extension with the team he wanted. He didn't do it and because of that, he kept the sell other teams in the dark and maybe in the end that helped the bucks get the best value. The one thing you could say that would have been better is maybe they could have pulled the plug on this earlier , made the trade, not done the Dame thing, not done the doc thing, but honestly at the point when you got Dame, I think you had to take that swing and still try with this type of can't win a champion of a lot of superstar, although maybe the next just yet. You can't win a challenge of superstar. They had a superstar so they had to try. It is not their fault that Lily ended up getting hurt. It's not their fault that Miles Turner turned out to be a bust. They tried when they had the opportunity to do so and they didn't have that opportunity anymore. Occurs to me to ask one last question. And by the way, I have not worked in my producer Jason Gotch, and the reason I haven't is because he's working the headphones, but I do want to turn to him for about ninety seconds here. You're not a bucks fed. You're you're, I mean, you're not. You're better wear arounding cubs clothes and all of this crap and so on. As somebody who doesn't have any emotional skin in the game , I want to give I want to give you like two minutes here for your full assessment of just the the over overallall I take all of it everybody makes good points. I take a different picture of this because I look at the big picture of the NBA and I say yes this year's Nick's team won the championship. Jaylen Brunson played like a superstar even if he',s not one. The zero four pistons won it with guys like Rip Hamilton and Chaucee Bills, not superstars. If you're going to win in the NBA championship other than those examples, you need a superstar to win. And you trade Yannis away , you traded a superstar, granite dead injury problems in recent years and you got back a lot of maybe potential , but I just look at that Jaylen Brown opportunity and I say, what if it would have worked out? What if you would have gotten J ayalen Brown and you trade a superstar for a superstar they throw in a draft pick and all of a sudden you're a contender in the eastern conference right away. You're not throwing away seasons, so to speak. So from that perspective, I preferred the Boston deal. I hope for bucks fans this works out , but when you're not getting the draft picks until twenty thirty one or twenty thirty two and you got all these moving parts to go through. I get what they're trying to do but from, an outsid er's perspective and again , I'm not I work for NewsTalk eleven, thirty WISA not trying to diss Wisconsin. The packers are a destination. People want to play for the Packers. It's Lambo Field. It's it's the greatness. It's an icon ic franchise. I don't think in the NBA circles it's the bucks are a great organization, but they're not going to Miami or New York or play for the Lakers. So to get that superstar again , I it's so much easier said than done. So from that point, I worry for bucks fans that it's going to be a long time until they get that superstar. If you don't have that you are right . You can't win I think you can't win, I think with,out a superstar. And there's either one on the roster who's going to turn into one or one that they're going to have to get in future years in the draft. So let's leave it with this if a current member of the bucks makes the NBA Hall of Fame . Who will it be ? You want to start Jason? That's a different . Wow, that is really putting me on the spot. If a current member of the box if you had to, for example, take a flyer and bet on one guy pulling it off and doing it . I'll go crazy and I'll say Amen, the guy they just got. Maybe he develops into a great player because I don't see I mean Tyler Heroes not making the hall of fame. Great player, but he's not making the Hall of Fame. I mean, he's the most likely I think he could. It's but again, that's up to him . He's got to continue to improve and develop if you can get a scoring average up to twenty five a game rather than twenty , that you know, a lot of players basketball actually puts a lot of guys into these thresholds lower in the end of the hall of fame Richmond's in the Hall Right. Yeah, Michael Red came close to being a Hall of Fame player. So it's not an impossible bar. Armand the only reason I say here was he's already made an all star. He might be the best chance. It might be a guy that we don't know about yet, but you said current roster or so it probably would be one of the two rookies they drafted last night. But of course that's a super, you know, ran a super lottery projection, you know, it's like hitting the lotto. The reason I'd say Hiero is if he can stay healthy and continue to score at the clip he can score at at, then maybe the end of the of his career we'd add it up and say the threshold been reached to make the Hall of Fame. For a while people didn't think Ray had a chance, but then when he added up his career and compiled it at the end he said you know what, Ray Allen's definitely a Hall of Famer. I don't know that's what I say. I think Burry's is a Ray Allen type player. And again, it's up to him. Ray Allen hit a shot in the corner to win an NBA championship. You have to become a player who does that. But he has those tools hunter. If there's a buck, it makes the Hall of Fame who would have favor I will go with Hero just because he's already you know not a bit of the way there. It's not like he's on a Hall of Fame trajectory yet right now, but if like you said, if he adds some things to his game and continues to get that scoring up. Maybe it's possible , but for the sake of the conversation, I'll go with Burry's for the other first round pit . I'd probably say ament. There is another guy