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Arrowhead School District Censorship Lawsuit

From Mark Belling Podcast #133: Was the US Supreme Court right to uphold birthright citizenship? Arrowhead School District may be sued by America's premier conservative civil rights law firm over the district's censoring of a student's religious graduation statement. And, the Milwaukee Convention Center Board gives a sweetheart deal to......its own chair.Jul 1, 2026

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Mark Belling Podcast #133: Was the US Supreme Court right to uphold birthright citizenship? Arrowhead School District may be sued by America's premier conservative civil rights law firm over the district's censoring of a student's religious graduation statement. And, the Milwaukee Convention Center Board gives a sweetheart deal to......its own chair.Jul 1, 2026 — starts at 0:00

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Visit youLine. comot The Mark Belling podcast is a production of Hart Radio podcasts Over the many, many, many, many years that I've been doing a show here I have tried to stress to my audience The incredible power and importance of the court And as I've said over these many years Despite all of my preaching, I just still think about half the audience doesn't get it The other half does But about half the audience doesn't? get it The most important power of the president, I believe, is appointing Supreme Court justustices In the state of Wisconsin The Supreme Court is at least as powerful as the governor, perhaps more both them more powerful than the legislature And then just go down to the fabric of our communities in terms of how all sorts of cases are handled roving this almost all, not all, but almost all the content on today's podcast. in one way or another addresses something from the courts We're going to start with the United States Supreme Court You know, when they end a term and term ended at the end of the month It just almost always seems like the biggest rulings come out on the last day and they slam them up bam bam, bam bam bam You know, there was the run ruling, the Dobs ruling that was leaked by the Liberals. But other than that, none of this stuff leaked out. The bigig ones, the ones that were most controversial, came at the end And certainly one of the most controversial is birthright citizenship This went the way of the left As you know, the Supreme Court is a six, three Cervative majority, but two of those six wander over to the left quite a bit I think it's accurate to say that they stay on the right more than half the time. But they do wander over quite a bit. John Roberts, the Chief Justice and Amy Cononey Barrett, the other And they went over to the other side in this. The question here is Were they right to do so Now one of the things that conservatives have argued forever, is that courts should interpret the Constitution as it is written that. as they wanted to be. The job of the courts isn't to do the right thing. The job of the courts is to determine what the law says and apply it accordingly It's the job of legislatures or in this case, the Congress and the president to make the laws The courts are to interpret the laws on the basis of what they say. Now that's what we've been saying all along So on this birthrightright citizenship thing I'm struggling In terms of policy, the court got it rightong But in terms of the law Maybe they got it right. We'll wade into this in just a moment here Have you ever been offered an add on option for premium or white glove service ULon provides only one type of service, the best From knowledgeable customer service available twenty four seven three hundred and sixty five to keeping every product in stock ready to ship the same day When your business needs quality shipping supplies, reliable warehouse equipment or office furniture fast, Contact you and get the best service Because ULine believe service is essential Not an option. I'm going to read the fourourteenth Amendment the Constitution of the United States which is the constitutional language upon which this whole battle over birthright citizenship falls Section one is the one that's applicable All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside No state shall make or enforce any law. which shall abridge the privileges of immunities of citizens of the United States Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law nor deny any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws That first All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States And the argument has been, and in fact, public policy has been Therefore If you're born in the United States, you're a citizen President Trump issued an executive order saying, no, that's not true So the case was challenged and it went to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court ruled that that language that I just read means If you're born in the United States, you're a citizen of the United States I believe The best way to interpret the meaning of language is to try to determine what the intention was of the people who wrote the language You know, as we're approaching the two hundred fiftieth anniversary of the birthday and anniversary of the United States I pointed it out again and again The incredible brilliance of the founders of this country, who, not in seventeen seventy six, but in seventeen eighty nine through ninety one drafted our cononstitution And we're so forward thinking, I think, divinely inspired that they were able to write a document that applied to so many things that didn't exist when they were alive The majority of the language that they drafted stands today and is applicable Their language of freedom of speech, the right to O to possess firearms Go up and down the line someomehow they managed to envision a world far different than the one that they were in. But I love the word but This language was not drafted by the founders This is the fourteenth Amendment. The first ten were the Bill of Rights Anything after ten came later. The fourteenth ammendment was drafted in the Civil War era It was drafted for the purpose of making it clear The pe the people who were born anywhere in the United States, including the slave south were' citizens and have the full right of citizenship This amendment was to essentially declare that the southern belief that slaves were not citizens that were not persons was wrong and they enshrined it in the Constitution. That's why they use the language all persons bore Slaves born in the United States That slaves a citizen African American person, or black person or colored person or whatever term they would have applied in the time born here is a citizen here. That was what the purpose was Unlike the founders, I don't know that they thought through the implications of all of this When this language was drafted The only way to get into the United States from The other hemisphere was by boat. Obviously you could travel by horse South America and from North America and so on. But the only way to get to the United States otherwise was to come in by a horse from our country and by boat from Europe. All of the migrants who came to the United States came by boat and It was rather easy to process all of them And Those boat rides took a long time There weren't any motors on those boats. It's not like a cruise jip that puddles along at twenty three miles an hour. These boats Tk a long time to get over here So The notion that somebody would be born in the United States of an illegal immigrant probably never dawned on them in the writing of this. Nonetheless, it is what they wrote My Presumption is is that they were so determined to enshrine black people. Negro people to use the term of the time We're citizens that you're born here, you're a citizen here. And this has resulted in this dilemma that we've had for the one hundred and sixty years since where we have individuals who come to the United States Iillegally Make a baby And that baby's now a citizen. O Somebody who is a citizen of France orr Uganda Or Japan or China who was pregnant and has a baby while here, that baby is a citizen of the United States Challenge this by drafting an executive order saying, no that that's not the case The Supreme Court ruled that the fourourteenth Amendment does indeed mean that birthright citizenship is a real thing Practically speaking, this has created the crisis that we have now Wh where we have millions of illegal immigrants Tens of thousands of whom After coming here illegally get pregnant and have a child and the child's now an American citizen So when you try to deport parents who are illegal The leftis are going crazy. They're deporting these children. The children are citizens. Well, they are they are citizens And the Spreme Court just said they're citiz As our government keeps pointing out, we're not deporting the children If the parents want to leave the children here with somebody else, they can But since the children are obviously in the custody of the parents, if the parents leave the children would go with them No different then If the parents chose willingave to leave the United States, the children would go with them But it also creates implications for the future. There's already this dual citizenship Chinese thing going on. It's becoming a real thing Pregnant Chinese women come to the United States while pregnant and have their babies here Those babies are now American citizens, then they haul them back to China. They may sit in China for the rest of their lives, but they are American citizens at ever eight to vote becausecause they're American citizens Again, none of this was envisioned When the fourourteenth Amendment was rarafted, nonetheless can't deny this seems to say if you're born in the United States, you're a citizen I'm Jason here he's a talk show host. Have you comment on this on your show? What has been your take on I read exactly what you read, Markin. I tend to agree with what you're saying as far as the way it's written. But then I also look at the fact that why weren't American Indian citizens? How did that not it's like they have made exceptions before. And then I look at the secondcond ammendment too and I say, well We don't want the secondecond Amendment eliminated, but we can't own a machine gun. They've said they're firing a crowded theater. That's correct. Okay. So that's his take on this. And this is the problem that comes in here. I have argued forever that with regard to the Constitution and court rulings, we have to look at two things, A, what it says And B what the intent was when they said it Also, you do have situations where the language seems to come in conflict with one another and then you resolve it And as Jason was pointing out We haven't established any right as being An absolute. Well the language of the Constitution gives all citizens the right to own and possess firearms, we have restricted and the courts have upheld that certain citizens have forfeited some of their rights, like, for example, felons. So we now have all sorts of problems because of this. Now here's the thing If we were a society that was sane and we're not because half the country has gone looney You would simply resolve the problems that exist now by changing the Constitution In fact, the fourourteenth Amendment itself, which I read here, was a change to the Constitution We could simply amend the Constitution to clarify this I don't see any in order to change the Constitution You need to pass this to both houses of the Congress and then it has to be ratified By thirty eight states, by three fourths the states How the hell you got to California to ratify this? Th You'd never get there reactions to This ruling I'm going to quote from Fox News on Justice Clarence Thomas's dissent Thomas and Alito are besides themselves here They felt that this language was being interpreted wrongly all along. They agreed with Trump And they wanted to take this as an opportunity to clarify what this language actually means I'll quote from the report. Thomas accuses the majority of repurposing the fourteenth Amendment to protect its own set of preferred rights that the Reconstruction Congress never contemplated and that cannot find support in its text. In other words, what Thomas is say, the Reconstruction Congress is that's the Congress of the United States that was running the country after the Civil War where the Sals was back in and so on. And they were drafting these laws now to conform. to the will of the Union which won the Civil War And Thomas points out there is nothing in any historical reference in here that there was ever any intent to have this apply to Children that were dragged into the United States temporarily or r mothers that popped their kid will in the United States temporarily and somehow make them a citizen. So that's Thomas's argument He continues I am not sure that today's opinion will stand the test of time. He added that the citizenship clause quote added greatly to the dignity and glory of American citizenship Today's opinion devalues that citizenship So he's saying citizenship is being devalued. If the only requirement to be an American is to be fortunate enough At the day that you popped out of your mother heard of been standing somewhere in the United States of America Justice Samuel Alito from his disscent In my judgment, the court has made a mistake that will seriously affect the country's future Suppose that a person's only connection to the country is that he was born here to a mother who is present just long enough to give birth and then quickly return to her native country. Suppose that country is a strategic adversary or enemy of the United States clearly referencing China Suppose the child never visited the United States while grown. and was inculcated with hatred of this country According to this court, that person is a citizen of the United States. He can enter and leave the country as he pleases He can travel the world on a United States passport Even if he plots to harm this country, he cannot be deprived of his status as a citizen at least under current precedent further from Alito This is one of the most important decisions in the history of the court And in my judgment, the court has made a serious mistake The court's interpretation is not only contrary to the original meaning of the fourourteenth Amendment It produces grotesque Results The point that Alita is referring here is o determine what those words mean, you have to determine what the authors of the words meant And he's arguing they did not mean this that at some point common sense has to apply What are the things that Lies like to do Whenever we in the United States decide to go our own way on something like refusing to adopt the metric system or until two weeks ago, not pay any attention to soccer or socialized medicine. But everybody else in the world does it. Europe does it. Europe does it. Europe does it. Here's the thing Nobody else does this. I don't know, is the heat wavees still going on in France that they've all been whining about over there whether it is it or is doesn is some woman She's prenant she's over there on Francentificacation and the heat gets to her and she delivers a little bit early kid isn't going to be French. guarantee you with that. They don't want anybody who's American to be in Over there Nobody does it that way And we did it that way because there was an attempt. probablyably without thoroughly thinking things through to draft language to make it clear that slaves were citizens of the well, slavery was ended that black people We're citizens of the United States simply by virtue of having been born here which by all rights obvious they they are. Y parents were both here when the mother gave birth to the child and the child has spent his life here. So of course, that child is a citizen and any attempted to deny them citizenship on the basis of race, which had been attempted in the sou in the Confederate States in the South was Rd The hang up I have with criticizing the decision is The language to me. doesn't have any caveats because the drafters here The Reconstruction Congress didn't think about total impact of what they were saying and they didn't think about it because the notion then that we would have Tens of thousands of people illegally in the United States giving birth and k those children of non citizens, people who weren't here illegally, they could not have imagined that the country would have ever had that because at the time, of course, the country enforced its borders. We were a nation that was seeing immigration right and left, but it was all orderlybody came properly The eighteen hundreds was the time of great migration from all of Europe to the United States And they all came in. And it was all handed accordingly. The founders in that night could not have imagined fast forward you would have gone through presresidencyies particularly the last one Whithy decided to let twenty million people in illegally and let people pop babies right and left this Chinese pregnancy tourism thing. This is a real threat It's something that's going on Being a citizen means you have a right to vote If you're a proper age You are going we are going to be having never mind there's two groups of people here. There's the people that are born in the United States, born of illegals who are going to live there for in the United States for the rest of their lives and there' no. green lid in because they're citizens At least they live here What about the people who never live here other than maybe the first two weeks of their life after birth They're going to be able to decide the future of our country because we arbitrarily decided that a tourist here in the United States that gives birth that gives birth to a citizen. So they end up holding dual citizenship, Chinese and American Obviously, this has happened in the past from time to time where someone is Here in the United States, in fact there's been discussion of. Canadian healthcare system, some Canadian women have come to the United States to give birth in American hospitals and so on. They're citizens It's a mess And as I say, Trump is playing this saying, well we'll just pass legislation. Now let's imagine they try to address this via legislation while the Republicans they'll control the House and the Senate but not pass a constitutional amendment Remember, what the court struck down here was Trump's executive order. An executive order is something that a president signs that has the force of law if there is no law on the books that addresses the issue President can't sign an executive order defying an existing law But if the law, there's no law that says anything one way or another on something, then the executive order stands. Trumps suggesting pass a law and that will have greater weight. I don't think it would. I think that the Supreme Court here said The fourteenth Amendment means this thing here and that you'd have to change the Constitution I don't have any optimism at all that you could ever get thirty eight states to agree to rewrite this particularly given the fact that the Democrats think that the overwhelming majority of these people who are born in the United States are going to vote for Democrats There are a lot of rollings this week from the Supreme Court and I can't cover all of them. I do want to Highlight one compomponent one of the other cases earlier in the week The Supreme Court upheld the rights of the states Ban. males from female sporting activities Justice Thomas issued a concurring opinion Cing opinion means he agrees with the majority, but he wanted to add in his thoughts This thing is The Supreme Court currence can go viral. it has gone viral becausecause in a very, very short concurrence Clarence Thomas, I think slammed down and refuted the whole gender movement. this notion that you can choose Your own sex I'm going to read his concurrence and I'll take out the paragraph stuff where he cites precedent The court correctly holds that neither Title IX nor the Equal Protection Clause prohibits states from offering sex separated athletics. A man does not have a legal right to compete against women just because he believes that he is a woman I joined the court's opinion in full I write separately to make two points. First Transgender status is not a suspect class requiring heightened equal protection scrutiny. Let me interject Those are classes of people that are granted specifically. ennumerated rights, which we have certainly done on the basis of skin color Some believe that we should do on the basis of any number of other protected classes. We have an Americans with Disabilities Act that protects what he's saying here is that gender status is not a suspect class requiring heightened equal protection scrutiny, continues The class of people who claim transgender status could more accurately be described as people who are experiencing Gender dysphoria which is not a discrete group because gender dysphoria is a mutable mental state that is the object of psychiatric treatment. It does not resemble the immutable characteristics on the basis of which Our precedents have applied heightened scrutiny Race Sex or National origin In other words, he's saying those gos race, sex or national origin, we have applied specific protections. Instead Gender dysphoria resembles other characteristics on the basis of which legislation may classify with a merely rational basis Legislatures have many obvious rational bases to keep men who believe that they are women out of teames and private spaces reserved for women As the court recognizes This case concerns biological men and Bys who identify as girls Men and boys with gender dysphoria are not women or girls, even if they believe they are Sex is an immutable biological characteristic It is binary and man and woman, boy and girl are the terms that correspond to adults and children of each sex. to use language to obscure reality to show indifference regarding the truth. is to lie to the public and cease to treat our fellow citizens as equals Well, that's pretty good writing There's another thing going on with the courts right now. This There's been so much from the courts I don't want this one to get lost in the shuffle. Let's go back to the biggest scandal in the history of the Supreme Court when a court decision was leaked before it came out. never happened before. That was the Dobbs decision. That was the decision that overturned Roe versus Wade It was leak. presumably for political advantage to create outrage over the decision before it ever came out. outrage in the women who believed that there was a legal right to have an abortion This week, very briefly, NPI posted a story that Justice Alito is considering retirement They quickly the story out In the story It ran quote the justice that overturned Roe vvers. Wade. Then pre written article is retracted and Alito is nowwhere. Here's the question Somebody tipped MPR off to the notion that Alito was going to resign and they tip them off an alorithm. There is some suggestion here that Alito in doing this was trying to out the person who leaked The Dobs ruling that he may have implied to that person that he was going to quit to see if they would leak it. which would be a way of exposing who it was that leaked Dobs The reason this is brought up is that it is known that Supreme Court Justice Sona Sotomayor has been very close with NPRs Nina Tottenberg forever Nina Totenberg has been with NPR before there was an NPR. She's been there courts reporter forever and ever and ever There is speculation that Alita was so furious over this ruling birthright citizenship that he set up Son Sona Sonomor to issue another leak It's his way of beginning the process. Oing who it was that leaked the Dobbs ruling, which of course, would be a felony James Woods, the great actor I say G he iss a very good actor, but I say the great actor because of all the act If you combine status and outsmoking conservatism He would be the one that would have the combination of both. In other words, there are some actors that may be extremely conservative, but not quite as famous as Woods. And there are others maybe more famous than Woods, but they're only moderately conservative I think when you combine the two woods it'd be the what He posted on X. I think a very good analysis of the problem here. and emerges with mine. The problem here is ' we don't have a conongress that can pass good laws and amend the Constitution when necessary , Asistant Jameswoods. The hysteria over the unsurprising recent decisions of the Roberts Court, Justice John Roberts, shines a light on the real problem facing America Of the three branches of government, we currently have an activist judiciary, a powerful executive, but a flat tire when it comes to the legislative branch Birthright citizenship, for example was not expected to be overturned by the Supreme Court. I didn't expect it to be overturned. I thought the ruling would go the way it would I think Trump got advice here from his advisors that the court would indeed side with him. And I think that Trump got bad advice on this and thinking that the two So called conservatives who lean over to the left would go and ignore what seemed to be the plainly written language of the court anyway Back to the analysis of James Woods I'll repeat a sentence that led me to make that comment. Birthright citizenship, for example, was not expected to be overturned by the Supreme Court Congress could easily establish common sense legislation that would define more clearly the original purpose and boundaries intended by the fourteenth Amendment That would, however, require John Thone the Senate Republican leader act like an American statesman rather than a rhino hack So there is, as usual, no hope As long as the pansy ass Republicans mince around the halls of Congress We are due Now this st needs to be commented on For those of you haven't been following closely, you may recall that Marty Brooks was fired as the head of the Mwaukee Convention Center I won't go into all of that, but They don't have to search obviously for a new guy to run this big convention center So in the interim, they're naming an interim direct This is often done University of Wisconsin Athletic Dpartment is an interim director. By the way, everybody they seem to a havoc. candidate in line. if they can cut the deal To take over his full time athletic director, he's the number two guy at Texas was the former AD at Miami and Nebraska seems very qu and Wisconsinative seems very qualified, but They're going gonna have to pony up the money and so on to get them to do it. Anyway But whenever somebody leaves, there's an interim Often the interim is The person who was like the number two. For instance, if the police chief resigns before they name a new one, you know, the Assistant chief or one of the assistant chiefs would generally take over on an interim basis. This is not what's happening though at the convention center district Do you know what the Convention center district is naming as the interim head of the cononvention center? Chairman of the district Did he name himself The board of directors of the Cvention Center named the chairman of the board to be the interim director of the convention Center and he's getting paid. He's required to work thirty hours a week. He, you know, he's got all these board members. They have jobs, they have lives I'll adit, the guy's name is Jim Canter. You may not remember this but I've met him He runs one of these craft brewery type companies Obviously, since he's in charge of that company, that's a job in which he can control his hours there, control his hours here The deal is that he's going to work thirty hours a week running the convention center. and will be paid thirty thousand dollars a month to do so H That's a good gig. Annualized, that's three hundred sixty thousand dollars a year for a thirty week job That's a lot to give it interom How did the board decide that the chairman of the board was the right guy to get this thing Did he volunteer and say I want it That would seem to be to be a conflict of interest to hire yourself No I get I think Canor might be the exact right guy If you're firing Marty Brooks, it may not be the greatest statement of confidence in Marty Brooks' staff Furthermore, Canters been the chairman of the board He's been in business. he worked for. Mols and Cs or whatever we call Miller Brewing Before that he was involved in Business is in Milwaukee in L cohola tavern business And now he runs a company he's clearly qualified. And he may be the best guy for the job, but I just This This story certainly demands at least some scrutiny, and I would think at the very least They have to If they're going to give him this gig, They better move quickly to hire the replacement. Often these things take fourteen months. The first thing you do is you hire a search firm I actually know people that are in that business, the head on her business. You ever have a head on her or try to hunt you for anything I had it one time too I always say, I'm not leaving any, I'm not leaving I just I've never particularly understood why you need to give like two hundred thousand dollars to these head hters for jobs that all sorts of and part of it is it's their job to find somebody who's not just going to apply that you're going to go and approach them on the slide so that they don't have to sccrew up their current job by putting in an application. That's why you use that I love it, though when the head hunter They hire a headhening firm and they end up hiring the person that was on the staff all along. Well, why do you need to anyway? Now this story If you want an example of why cities in America are going to hell This is a perfect example of it. Milwaukee has not gone to hell as badly as some other cities But some things are ominous Let me go and back up a bit Historically, one of the things that has harmed cities and we'll just use Milwaukee as the proxy as the example for The first half of the nineteen hundreds. Re until about nineteen sixty and nineteen seventy. The city of Milwaukee was the employment backbone of Southeastern Wisconsin. It was not only where all the offices and the corporate headquarters for companies were There were lots of factories, blue collar jobs all over the city AO Smith is still a company, but they're a very different company, a giant manufacturer. The breweries were much bigger and we had three of them Alice Chalmers just you can go to the list of big factory type, blue collar type companies that employed thousands and thousands of people in Milwaukee For lots of reasons that changed. A lot of those types of jobs didn't just leave cities country The downsizing Master Lock, Harley Davidson, again, there's just a million examples And this has been pointed out by people the left As to why the cities have had these terrible problems. corporate America pulled out They kind have pulled out of the whole country, including the cities but In many cases, a lot of these types of businesses did relocate to the suburbs for other reasons. including the fact that the cost Doing business in a city is very, very high and then the crime prop But that point has been made that you'll never that the city of Milwaukee and other big cities will never thrive until we come back and get an employment base in the city. and there's truth to that The greatest strength of Milwaukee lately has been the incredible housing Rennaaissance Downtown and in the third ward. which I thought for forty years was overbuilt. Even though I'm one of the people that is living in part of it And it's finally now showing signs of, you know of being overbuilt. in addition to that Northwestern Mutual and a couple of other people really expanding their foothold in downtown Milwaukee. That's been the strength The weakness has been what's been happening in all of the neighborhoods and not just the central city There's been a population exodus because who the hell wants to live in a high crime area And now the manufacturers long ago left and now you're seeing the retailers leave. The retailers are all leaving because They can't make any money on these stores because their stuff's all being stolen right and left So what do you do? An example of this is This big property in it's called the midtown area. It's near capitol. It's Dt tell me because it's the center of the North side of a watch. There was a big Walmart there it closed It's been empty for the longest time. Think like Northridge except now put it right in Northridge is kind of on the periphery of the city This area, the Midtown Plaza area is right in the middle of Milwaukee and you got these empty buildings. It wass like an empty department throw an empty strip wall, all the it's dead empty There's a proposal Problem. And this goes back through numerous Milwaukee mayors. Northquest was afflicted with this Barret was afflicted with it Every head of the Milwaukee Department of City Development, Rocky Muru used to run that agency. he was afflicted with it Lafia Krump, the current guy minded on him, mayaybe he's not But they all have this no shit up This is what we want to have in Milwaukee As I've explained a number of times, you don't get to decide That would be like me saying private chat Oh, you got to do it. I don't know You don't get something in a city by saying this is what we're going to have. Somebody has to want to do it. We need more housing. people that hold up signs are these socialists. We need more libraries. Oh my God, we need one I don't think we need any libraries, but I've been on this thing forever. This is a very minority opinion. I do not understand the need or value of libraries at a day and age in which every single thing in the world is online And most of the people going into the library are just using it to go surf on the internet for free. and steel broad bad I I know they have blockers on there. I've been saying forever. they go in there so they can look at their child porn on their phones using the Wiifi in the library. It's actually not true, but I enjoy saying it anyway because they do usually have blockers on there anyway Let's go back to the premise of you've got to get something to come in there and if you can get that thing to be commercial all the better. You relieve property tax taxation on residential by having more commercial in a community. Secondly, if the commercial is job generating, Again, all the better, but you don't get to decide who it is. Somebody has to want to come in and do it And most employers don't want to come into Milwaukee at all. E the retailers, you know, the Walgreens is leaving The grocery stores are leaving See a better cake Well it's to come in and the proposal had two components. One was storage outlets It's an ideal thing for a cent obviously. A lot of the people who live in the inner city are renting And they're reing not very large places. And they often have more stuff than their space to put it in. I had this I actually even set it back in the nineties, I set on the program No. The number of things that I've said and then sat on my dumb butt and didn't do anything about I told all of my friends this, this is like nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety seven We have this area. Well just when the third W started to redevelop and we had all these old warehouses that were empty ised You know, we ought to buy a couple of these and turn them into a giant storage ceter What did I do? Nothing. You would not believe the number of storage centers there. Paul is now in the storage center business It's a great racket Your costs, once you acquire the property are very limited. You have some security and you build a thing in which it's really hard to break into the things and after that you just collect the monthly checks And there's clearly a need for it So that'd be part of it It isn't really job producing other than the construction that would be done, but it would create an actual use and It would eliminate the fact that this area is being used for a lot of drug selling right now because there would be security on presence and people that are coming in to go into their storage facilities et cetera So that's the first part. The second part is here we go data set This data center I don't know what the smallest data center in the United States is, but this one would have been in contention. But just say those words and lefties now their eyeballs pop out of their heads I've been arguing forever. We cannot say no to data setetters But what we can do is do a better job of citing them I've used the example of how there's been almost zero opposition to the largest data center Maybe in the country right now and that's the one in southern Masine County that Microsoft is building A F few people at all complaining who live nearby because there's a whirring noise that comes off of it, but when they were building the thing and even now, there's almost no complaining. That obviously was an ideal site in part because it's kind of set away from a lot of residents. there's obviously, there's going to be always somebody that's the closest residents to it, no matter how farher that might be three miles or it might be three feet depending on the site I have said that Northridge would be an ideal site for a data center The land is available It's not immediately in a residential area. cllose enough to the freeway to get there And it would have the infrastructure of all the utilities that the city of Milwaukee, the infastructure of power lines and all that stuff that's already there. Well, the proposal was to put a very tiny data center at this midtown pllaza site, the old Walmart site The Milwaukee Plan Commission took had a hearing yesterday. I'm doing this at podcast on a Wednesday. They went out for seven hours and of course, the only people showed up is all these lefties, the socialists showed up. They called themselves, this is a new N, and isn't even the DSA? Socialist and labor or some damn thing These people just invent a group. They called themselves Py for Socialism and Liberation I mean, I almost expect Castro to be back from the Dad or Chigavera to be stand in the middle of it They got up there and complained about, of course, they complained about the dataenters Now we know what the knock of the data centers are. One of the big ones is the amount of water used, right? Do you know how much water this one would have used Five gallons a day. It's tiny But that's exactly what sites like this afford, data centers could be huge or they could be small It would be a dedicated data center meaning it would be serving specific clients and therefore they don't this is not an idea of having a really, really large one fiveive gallons of water a day These people were opposed to it screamed and yelled and said D don't do it Okay Har what you had. is somebody that actually wanted to come into Milwaukee. do something that would have employed people. No Beggars can't be choosers So then run around and talk about the chronic, high unemployment in the African American community. The problems of transportation. The people live in the central city who can't get to where the jobs are in the suburbs. you keep ing off the people who actually want to come in. I actually believe, were it not for the fact that radical leftists run all of these cities that the data centers could be put big cities in the United States so that they're not taking up green space You're not going to have these giant power lines in residential areas. You're putting them in areas where that's already an intense electrical grid because of businesses and factories and there's density involved and so on. and then create a rim of protection, like say, this site and put the dataents in there There are areas of the south side of Chicago that are just abandoned where nobody lives at all. You could put a data seter in down they'd be perfect locations for them, they would provide economic opportunities and guarantee that one of the fastest growing and most important industries in the history of man. providing data for the cloud for the entire future of AI and every other Advancement in computing could occur urban America where there is going to be less disruption by putting them in there than if we keep trying to put them all out in the suburbs or people are against them This is a great opportunity for some of these cities to a bring in massive tax base improvement And B job opportunities and then all of the other things that occur when you have development nearby, which creates a need for fast food restaurants and all the others In other words, actually create a shot in the arm, but no So the planning Commission they adjourned without making a decision my point about leftfies In the end, they are so damn stupid. They can't do they can't even do a no brainer because they lack a brain. They got a bunch of communists and don't say that that's not an appropriate What they call themselves Socialist liberation. I mean, that every commy word in there Its mostostly it's it's mostly Tong's language By the way, the moment they got rid of most they took in China and got in joy and lie, that's when the Chinese economy exploded. really decided to he help with all of this Marxism stuff. We're going to be commommunists. We're not Marxiss. We're going to embrace capitalism. we're going to take over the world And they've never looked back. I've got to take a break on the Mark Melling podcast. Charisma Customs in Delafield, their sponsor They're also where I took my car. They do a lot of things to make your car look really good and stand up to all that we have to put up with on Wisconsin Roads. The package I took included ceramic coating, which makes the vehicle look really good. Paint protection for all of the chips and stuff that comes off of our roads The wheel package and a tint job that adds to a little bit of privacy and security. They handle all sorts of cars there from regular old family drivers to exotic spectacular cars. Anybody who wants to protect their car like I do, or make it look really good Like I do, check out Charisma Customs in Dellafield. They're right off the freeway, that's Charisma Customs in Dellafield. This is the Mark Gulling podcast I cannot allow myself to take glee in the following story However The story serves a purpose Some of you know who James Cusey is. He's a leftfty columnist for JS Online forever They've had other people who've taken on this role of being The African American radical who writes columnbs of the paper. They've had somebody in this ro forever and Qasi The papers now. barely a paper. it's mostly online, because he is, he writes an opinion piece. And before that, he's had other jobs there He got into trouble when the Washington Post caught him for plagiarism about a decade ago. newspaper never to this day addressed it and Cuse he never had to apologist for it, but anyway He writs to stop And he's a leftf. And he's a leftfty. he comments on urban issues. so you know what the whole thing is. soft on crime, et cetera., lack of a blah blah blah blah James Cusey's car was stolen Be I, I'm not supposed to take de light in that because That's not a moral thing to do to be gleeful about something Somebody does something something bad and it happens to somebody over in their left, I shouldn't take Le of that commented on this phenomenon forever and ever and ever There's a saying that goes back to the sixties. a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged You know, all these lefties are all their soft ar crying bleeding hard stuff You know, somebody gets caught, say stealing twenty nine cars and they put it back in the street all twenty nine times they steal their c. So of course, Cusey's confronting this, and the reason we know about this is he's written a piece about it headline. My car was stolen mid afternoon from a downtown Milwaukee Street. No You don't say, James I don't know I didn't go back and research. I'm just guessing he's one of those people that's been writing us that people claim that the crime problem in Milwaukee is overstated, mayaybe he hasn'. We're getting told this step for those people like me who live in Milwaukee at a nice part of Milwaukee It is a huge problem Oh no, no, no what it is No it isn't, No, isn't no Cuse he broad dlight his car is stolen out Let me give you a few paragraphs. On june twenty third, something happened I hope you never have to endure. My car was stolen broad daylight on a highly traveled downtown street Some people dismiss auto theft as a property crime. It isn't that simple. It's a deeply personal violation that lands like a gut punch and lingers long after the vehicle is guns. You know, the fact that he's This is coming out of him. This is a good thing that this leftty has been enlightened to the scourge of what happens when people violate and they're not violating you because they need a car. Chances are this car was taken to be joy ridden Maybe it's chop chopped up, but the majority of these cars that are stolen are found banged up a bit and abandoned somewhere else I went to My black twenty twelve Audi A five I'll credit. He does say what the car is. It sounds like it's a for it' a fourteen year old car that was a nice car fourteen years ago My twenty black twenty twelve Audio five disappeared from North A Street between West Highland and West Juno Avenue outside MATC's downtown campus between two hundred thirty and four. I went to MAT to interview Vivian came about Dianer E Blanc for PBS Black Niveau It was supposed to be a quick stop. He goes on and on and on. Then he points out he got back to the thing. By the way, people have dreams about this. Have you ever had this dream? you wake up and you go to where your car is and the car's not there It's a I've had it maybe a couple of times, but it's one of those common dreams like flying or you're naked or just it's a common dream And some panic gave wayay to certainty damn I muttered. They got me Car thefts in Milwaukee fallen sharply from their peak a few years ago, but statistics don't offer much comfort when you're the victim So then he goes on and on and points out he has insurance, but aud my audi wasn't valuable because it was flashy or expensive. It was valuable because it was paid off, It was reliable. It got me where I needed to go. And then he said, I just want my car back I'm not saying this because I have this glee that a leftty is a victim of crime I'm bringing this up Because the more times that lefties are victims of crime, the more they are open to the notion that we have got to stop rewarding people who commit crime by keeping them on the streets to commit another crime An update on the story that we've been covering on this podcast Arowhead High School at its graduation blocked apparently six or seven students from using the slidees show. students were allowed to put up a brief comment on a slidees show that was to be shown during the graduation as all the students went up to get there Diplomas and so on Six or seven of the students had use the slid show to make some sort of religious statement. and one of the students has ended up talking about it. The school district administration told them that they couldn't say that They had to say something else. And they cited a policy said that said you can't express any political or religious viewpoints on this. One of the students, her name, this is all background. There's new information here and it's big. Sarian Baranja. graduated and went to the school board after the graduation and complained about it This made news and among the places that it's made news is on my podcast I quoted On the Monday podcast the response and defense of this censoring of Syriad. by the school district Administrator Conrad Farner And he said, we have policy in place And the policy is not to allow this. And if we allowed this, then we'd have to allow any manner of other kinds of political speech that was up there, we wouldn't want that And that was his position He said, we have the law on our side. and I said, I'm not sure that you do have the law on your side, the law clearly Supreme Court has held for effort that government cannot censor speech of a private individual, even if it's on government grounds It's a violation of the First Amendment right It does state the government can restrict its own speech These were student statements, but The administrator's point is it was a presentation put on by the district. The students submitted this to the school and the school played it. It's not like the student was up there giving a speech. It was on a slide show that the school was putting on Wisconsin Institute of F things This story has now gone national as I thought it would We now have some conservative media outlets and when they see Some school board rooll over and allow a superintendent to Silence a Christian kid There are some conservative outlets that will draw attention to this. This is being covered on Fox News. It's on their website. So we now have a national story over something that only occurred because the superintendent could have just let this happen and my guess is maybe three people would have bitched that the student in question Sri, she quoted proverbs three six It's a rather benign in terms of, it's not even a oververtly Christian, it's from the Old Testament Fox News covered this and now the Wisconsin Institute of Law and Liberty, which is a conservative legal organization based in Milwaukee. and Becoming probably the premier conservative civil rights organization in the United States They have sent a letter today to arrowhead school board essentially saying We're going to sue you clearly violated her rights and you had no right to do it Now I'll get into their statement in a moment In response to this, I contacted the president of the school board and copied the other school board members essentially saying Allright Now if you don't retract this and issue an apology to the student, You're gonna be sued and you're gonna lose Furthermore, if you're sued, that means you have to hire a lawyer too defend your censorship. Are you gonna do the right thing and the easy thing by just admitting that you shouldn't have done it presresident of the school board is named Kim Schubert And she's dug in I'll read her response to me, but summarizing, idiots. No, we're not going to back down. We did the right thing So go ahead and sue us See, here's the thing. When you tell Will to go ahead and sue them They su you. And they get they win these cases right and left often After the suit is filed, the lawyers for the individual district or governmental bodies say, you gott to lose in case here, you better settle Here's the response I received from Kim Schubert the school board president Dar Miss D Bell By the way This just holds forever. When the person's agreeing with my position, they say, dear Mark When they're disagreeing, they say, Dar Mr. Belling Dbis develing. Over the past five years, the Arowhead High School Board of Education has been intentional and proactive in developing and overseeing the implementation of strong conservative board policies. But I brought this up because the school board in Arowhead, the majority of the members have campaigned on the basis of being conservative And as you know, I find that many conservative school board members then once they get on the board, stop being conservative instead, roll over to the invariably leftist superintendent that they hire. Now, I don't know if Farner is a leftist I may have to siffer on. I know he came from Cederberg, but it should be an indication he is a leftist, but maybe he's not But the conservative school boards often say that they're conservative until it comes time to actually act conservatively We' pro active in developing and overseeing the implementation of a strong consonservative board policies that reflect both the values of the community and the best interests of our students Our policy work has been recognized throughout Wisconsin with other public school districts using arrowheads' policies as models for their own adoption. I would welcome the opportunity to discuss our policies with you and the thoughtful process behind the development. The policies adopted by our board are not merely statements on paper, they guide the day to day operation of our high school, the including decisions surrounding our annual graduation convention ceremony This year's graduates will providing clear, explicit guidelines regarding the personalized messaging displayed on the jumbot Tron during the commencement Unfortunately, a student's failure to follow those directions has resulted in the controversy now being discussed I just love the fact that we told them that they can't do that. Somehow is an excuse to violate someone's rights. If you're violating someone's rights and they don't go along with their rights being violated, you're not covered because you told them you were going to violate their rights. She continues When concerns arose regarding the denial of a Bible verse, suuperintendent Farner appropriately sought legal guidance from her attorney at the Wisconsin Association of School Boards Now let me interject on this. The number of school districts in the state of Wisconsin that have gotten themselves into legal hot water by either A, asking their attorneys at Bulo Vetter or the Wisconsin Association of School Board, which has a full time staff of Madison based lawyers. I would suggest the next time around, you contact a good lawyer. Anyway, on the basis of the lawyer at the Wisconsin Association of School Boards that we contacted the same attorney who assisted in drafting many of the board's conservative policies After receiving that guidance, the district acted consistently with both the law and the board's own policies. While I believe the overwhelming majority, if not every member of our board would personally welcome students expressing their faith during graduation, permitting one form of religious or ideological expression would require the district to permit all viewpoints U Maybe I'll grant you Maybe so. There are, of course, limits on free speech that you can make. But She's certainly right that if you allowed this, I mean, I was going to say Jewish, but this is an Old Testament statement Somebody could quote Correct may theoretically be correct about that That would include messages praising Satan or other extremist or offensive expressions that have previously been submitted to administration Our responsibility is to apply board policy consistently and without favoritism, regardless of the viewpoint being expressed What began as a well intentioned opportunity foru graduates to personalize their recognition has unfortunately created a necessary distraction. I love that. this whether you're in the light of the, whenever somebody brings up a story that you don't like, they call it a distraction It's distracting to you distracted by this, I'm quite intereststed. What don't you, Jason, are you either distracted for the podcast? or are you enjoying this particular say? I think that this is a good say. I'm not distracted at all. I mean, many things are distraction Remember Morgana, set before your time Yeah. Morgganto is this big boobed stripper who I mean she had with she was clearly getting assistance. She would run on to baseball stadiums and go to the mound and kiss the pitcher. I mean, I think I don't remember her I don't remember her being arrested. I think that she cut deals with the team that Now you could say that ev that was a distraction. Was it a bad attitude?'s again, that's up to you Let me get back to my point here. distraction There're just certain things anyway from the true purpose of commencement, celebrating the accomplishments of our students I would retort to that seriously Christians Tght. that their faith is the center of their lives and everything else is secondary And therefore, if she's going to make a statement upon her commencement, it almost would be imperative if she has strong religious beliefs that there would be a religious component to it, furthermore. I will also indicate that her statement was close to non denominational. It was a biblical verse and it capitalized It was either himim or he referring to God But it certainly was not Christian, it came from the Old Testament. Anyway Consequently, the district will continue the original Jumbotron message beginning with future graduation ceremonies. Our board remains committed to adopting and faithfully implementing policies that are legally sound reflecting the values of our community and place the educational mission of arrowhead. Again, I welcome the opportunity to provide you more detail on our policy development. Now I will point out She didn't answer a single damn question that I asked. I'm now going to I'm doing this in reverse. This is what I said her. because she gave me all these things defending it. I instead, and this is what I wrote. Now that the decision to ban a student from quoting a Bible verse in the graduation slideeshow has produced the threat of a lawsuit from the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty and has received national attention on Fox News, Will the school board finally address this matter It is fairly clear that once a student is allowed to speak speak, that such speech cannot be censored, particularly if that speech is protected under the First Amendment. Your superintendent is stubbornly continue to defend this decision, evidently citing advice and I put that in quotes in the Wisconsin Association of School Bards. The vast majority of the Arowhead School board ran as conservatives yet has refused to reign in an administrator who went farther than most liberalistict administrators would have gone and gagging a student's expression of her faith Will the school board address this issue Will it acknowledge the administration erred? Or is the district going to spend funds to go to court to defend this mishandling knowing that it is wrong on the law and wrong on policy? I'll be commenting on this matter of my podcast today and then I mentioned when I record, I'd appreciate her responsse for that. And she did, I will say Give me the response prior to that point Now as I said, the Wisconsin Institute of Law and Liberty and they've released the letter today. It is long. I won't read it all. The point in it being long is in writing the letter, will, Milwaukee based organization Rick Esenberg's ahead of it but they've got big staff now. They've done tremendous work They lay out the entire legal basis for why the district is wrong in defending the objections here of this student And as I say The school district is wrong. Once they open the door to allow the student to speak, they can't censor the student's speech if it tends to be religious. What they can do is not allow anybody to speak. And for example, its many cases, students have used their commencement speech, their graduation speech to say something religious. The courts' have been clear on that. you can't stop them You can stop an employee while representing the district from doing something, but you can't stop the student who's an individual unto him or herself from saying what they want to say Here's the beginning of the letter to schoolool distict. Wisconsin Institute of Law and Liberty represents Sar Anne Branja Regarding the decision by Arowhead Union High School District officials to prohibit her from including a Bible verse at a graduation slidideeshow submission on the june sixth, twenty twenty six commencement In addition to representing Ms Maranja, Will also represents her mom, Laura Engel, who has younger children, including a daughter who will soon attend Arowhead High School And then they go on to quote Will has serious concerns that the district violated Ms Marangej's rights under the free spepeech cllause and free exercise cllause of the First Amendment by excluding her expression solely because it conveyed a religious viewpoint. The district also risks violating the First Amendment rights of future graduating students then it lays out the background of the case. you know that so go forward. Legal analysis. The First Amendment does not permit public schools to suppress student speech merely because it is religious. Religious speech is protected speech and public schools may not discriminate against speech because it reflects a religious perspective Here the critical question is not whether Arrow had permitted students to express themselves, it plainly did. Students were invited to submit personal messages to one acc comppany their graduation slides, and the district approved a wide variety of personal expressions, including statements of gratitude, inspirational messages, humor, pop culture references, song lyrics, and even requests for financial support The question is whether students were permitted to express themselves only if their message was non religious, The answer appears to be yes. A student who thanked parents, coaches, teachers, or friends could apparently participate. A student who thanked God could not I just mem to Eron, You're gonna lose this case. Get over yourself and admit you're wrong I' sh Yeah, you made a policy. The Sld the South made a law that said they could have slaves. quitting the to, But just because you did something didn't mean that it's something that you were legally allowed to do Why don't you stop yelling? All right Back to the thing A student who shared an inspirational message from Batman could apparently participate. A student who shared an inspirational verse in the Bible could not. Such a distinction is quintessential viewpoint discrimination They then go on and analze theureme Court's Hazelwood case which is the operative matter here, which the superintendent relied upon then continuing, the Constitution does not permit school districts to engage in viewpoint discrimination and they come up with numerous precedents on this. and again, it's very long. They lay out this case and that's why The school booard president has gotten this and the fact that she digs in her heels after reading a legal analysis from lawyers that are far more qualified than the hacks over at the Wisconsin Association of Schoolboards. J And you're conservative. How much money are now you going to spend going to court to defend this case that you will lose Further from Will Ms Barange's personal expression on the slide was not tantamount to the district endorsing Christianity. See, and that's the thing that the district was hanging sat out. They're saying, if we let her say this on the slideshow, that slides showow, then it becomes our speech. Here's their reputation to that To the extent the district silents Ms Muranja out of a hypothetical concern that her message might be perceived as the district endorsing Christianity, the Rashidle embraces an outdated understanding of Establishment Clause doctrine. The US Supreme Court long ago abandoned the endorsement test for evaluating the Establishment Clause, and then it cites Kennedy case five hundred ninety seven US at five hundred ten comes up with the legal citations and has since interpreted the clause by reference to historical practices and understandings. and then they come up with numerous other sites. Regardless, the policy cannot logically rely upon purported fear of religious coercion because a Bible verse displayed for a few seconds on a student's slide cannot reasonably be understood to make a religious observance Pulsory continues and I' read the conclusion Graduation marks the culmination of a student's educational journey. The Constitution does not permit a public school district to require students to conceal or abandon those religious viewpoints as the price of participation in that milestone. Too often we have seen well meaning school officials thinking they are complying with the Establishment Clause mistakenly go too far and censor the private speech of students violating students' First Amendment rights Rearding Miss. Egel that's the mom parents possess a well recognized liberty interest in directing the upbringing and education of their children misses Engel understandably wishes to know whether her younger daughter will be permitted to express her faith on equal terms with her peers when she reaches graduation And then here's the demand. that noands are reason We therefore request the district take the following action. One affirmed writing that students retain the right to express religious viewpoints on the same terms as comparable non religious viewpoints in graduation related submissions and other student expression opportunities too rescind any policy, directive, practice or interpretation that prohibits student religious expression, solely because it is religious in nature. three require administrative officials for the district to undergo training in religious liberty and student speech. Oh, That's someone I love. I want to see Conrad Farter and the principles at all that at Arowhead go in there and being told, all this stuff you believed about silencing religion, you can't do I hope they don't back down on that demand. That's the good one. Do you know how many conservatives have been forced to go through on the job training on DEI and all of this other crap issue a public apology to Ms. Buranja and her family acknowledging that religious viewpoints are entitled to the same constitutional protections as comparable non religious viewpoints and committing that the future students will not be subject to similar discrimination Our clients would prefer to resolve this matter cooperatively and without litigation. However They are prepared to pursue all available legal remedies to defend their constitutional rights. Ms. Manja is evaluating her legal option to address the violation of her rights. ands. Engel is prepared to take appropriate action to ensure that future graduates, including her younger daughter, are not subjected to similar constitutional treatment It's signed by officials of the Wisconsin Institute for law and Lberty bunch of brilliant legal ms over there. Science the name this. againg Not that I expect them to take my advice, but I would advise arrow it to do the hardest thing in the world, admit you were wrong And Also understand that if you're seeking legal advice from a lefty law firm like Bulo Vetter or a Lty Madison based association like the Wisconsin Associations of schoolchool Boards, you're probably going to get Crap advice There was a time, and I said at the beginning of the program, so much of today's show is about the courts One of the areas in which the courts, over the years gotten more conservative has gotten right has been to reestablish The First Amendment of the United States does not ban individuals from expressing their religious viewpoints, but in fact specifically demands that they be allowed To do so And one other quick case. It also involves this organization, Wisconsin Institute of Law and Liberty. This has been an ongoing case. The State Department of Public Inonstruction went off to a conference in Wisconsin Dells and held a might have been a one day meeting or a two day meeting. That was the meeting in which they decided to lower the state academic standards. In other words, a lower score would be considered passing on the standardized tests. and would be considered to be proficient They lower the standards and they went off and did this att this meeting it was Consin Dells. There was a request for the records of that meeting and the Department of Public Instruction defieded it for eighteen months. They defied it because They clearly didn't notice the meeting and they didn't want to be able to have to release the records, which would show which people said what about why we have to lower the standards to make it appear as though our crappy schools aren't as crappy as they are. Wisconsin Initute of Law Liberty is now demanding that they pay. for this delay and his demanding compensation of one hundred thirty four thousand dollars The Evers administration and DPI is separate from it, but the Evers administration, the Josh Call Department of Justice, DPI and I will grant the Republican legislature has flipped off the state open records open records law and has ignored blatant violations of the open meetings law They need to be made to pay You're listening to the Mark Belling podcast Summer is a gift. a gift of days that last a little longer, a brighter state of mind. So giveift yourself a new Kia at the Kia Summer Sticker sales event, Epecially tacked vehicles including the Sorrento, Sportage, Carnival, as well as the Neurohybrid. all backed by a ten year one hundred thousand mile limited powertrain warranty. So the gift of summer can keep on giving for summers to come. Kia, Movement that inspires. 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