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We will examine the rising Republican star, the congressional candidate shaking up conservative aesthetics. then A Democrat campaign staff recalls for a trans jihod in general murder of Republicans, and President Trump swings by the Teddy Roosevelt library to remind us all how terrible this year would have been with a LIib president presiding over America's two hundred fiftieth anniversary of Michael Knowles, is the Michael Knowles showh Welcome back to the show. James Talarico, who the polls are showing might be the Democrat senator from Texas very soon. wants you all to know that his whiteness and his masculinity limits his imagination. That guy could be that guy like right now Odds on the numbers, very good chance that guy is going to be the Senator from Texas But We'll get to that in a moment. First though, smash that like button and subscribe. 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I said That's not a real trend And it takes a big handsome guy wearing a red, white and blue plaid shirt to admit when he's wrong because The new star GOP congressional candidate coming out of Colorado is in fact I think it's fair to say nothing lecherous in the observation. She's a goth baddy This is Kelly Dennison She just won the Colorado secondecond Congressional primary And she is not your typical Republican, at least in the way she looks She's a twenty seven year old massage therapist The picture that is being posted around in the news reports of her Victory was actually taken in front of St. Joseph Catholic parish, Great Signs I was in Fort Collins this year And She probably doesn't have a chance to win the race. I think the district is D plus twenty or something like that, but she won the primary. She has now won the hearts and minds, the fascination of at least many Republicans on the internet. And it made me have to contemplate whether or not mr. Davies was seeing a trend and why it would be A G chick would be a conservative Republican. I've noticed this. you know I travel around the country, go to a lot of churches when I'm around the country, go to a lot of events, and I've noticed this I actually I did' not, notot on my social media feed's been in real life I have been noticing more and more goth girls, like the kind of thing you saw in the late nineties, white makeup, dark hair, some piercings, black eyelashes, black clothing I have been seeing them crop up more and more and you would I often imagine them being on the left or maybe even the radical left if they weren't totally politically apathetic. but I've been noticing them more and more on the right. And why is that? In a way it makes perfect sense becausecause the Goth aesthetic rose out of the Victorian era. The best explanation I've heard for the rise of the Goth aesthetic, which really took on prominence in America during the eighties, punk, post punk then hot topic kind of commercialized it. But it comes from the Victorian era because Queen Victoria spent a very, very long time mourning the death of her husband, Prince Albert, so she wore a lot of black. And that's what it draws on. And it draws on other cultural influences from that era from the nineteenth century, the Ghic novels, Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. kindind of culture. that is about Enchantment. kind of culture that is about the supernatural Things that are a little uncanny, eerie, numinous, a little bit spooky the kind of culture that takes religion seriously. What's interesting about the Goth aesthetic is in the Goth aesthetic, you could see someone wearing a pentagram or a crucifix, you know, totally opposite religious views, but nevertheless taking religion seriously, whether it be in an occult and rather bad religious form or in a good religious form, which is in the form of Christianity. I mean, even the word gototh coming from Gothic, you know, the Goths who sacked Rome, but then the great Gothic cathedrals and then into the gothic novels of the era. And I thought, you know, in a way, this makes perfect sense because we live in this world has been so disenchanted We live in this world where everything is so clinical, everything is mediated by technology, where everything seems so clinical, so scientific, so plain. Our longings, our desires, our hopes and our dreams, they're all reduced chemicals firing off in our brains or some other mechanical processes. And human beings realize that that doesn't really fully explain the world. It doesn't even come close. It doesn't explain the most important things in the world And so I think we're living in an era. This is also why you're seeing a big return to religion and especially the more sacramental and traditional forms of religion, the liturgical kind of religion, the smells and Bells kind of religion You're seeing people recognize that we know that the world really is enchanted and we need to reenchant ourselves with it We're living post stupid new atheism, we're now in a world where we start to take religion and spiritual matters seriously. Even those gothic novels, you know, they're very romantic. It coincides with the romantic area and We live in a world where we're told we're just supposed to have You know, clinical partnerships with our with our, you know, I'm going to go I'm going to propose a marriage to my partner because we're we're really good. We help each other and we're all going to just like do the dishes and we're going be exactly co equals, undifferentiated, and it's all. it's just like so lame And we want romance. We want to we want to be that couple climbing up the Empire State builduilding taken a knee and proposing on top of a needle above New York City. We are living at a time Maybe I'm reading too deeply into this congressional primary candidate, but I don't think I am. I think it's indicative of a broader trend We're in a time callalls for E enchantment and romance and religion We are in an age that calls for the return of the Goth Batty. and the Goth Baddy will not be on the left. The Goth baddy will be on the side that is looking for a return of those things and that is Conservatives and Republicans generally. Okaykay. now But let's look at the Democrats, what are they up to? This is something that would come out of a gothic novel, a horror novel or a horror movie. A Democrat campaign staffer is just called on followers to, quote, kill your local Republican and commit trans jihad Trans jihad, two Two of our favorite things, transgenderism and Islam Combine them what could go wr They do actually kind of combine in a lot of activism. This person H name I guess it's a him, but he thinks he's a girl Tiha. Della Ruell I don't I don't think that's his Christian name, but that's the name he goes by. He was a volunteer staffer for Wisconsin Democrat Socialist candidate, Katrina DeVille Katrina Devill. I don't know Krina Devill's real name is because Katrina Deville is also transgender Democrrect candidate in Wisconsin also also trans So this fellllow, the staffer I was photographed sitting in front of a dry race board spwled with the words quote, kill your local Republican in Black markarker And he says, we're going to make this the moderate position for the state of Wisconsin. Wisconsin, which I believe has pushed more. serial killers on America than any other state in the country Now this is the trans stuff. it's the trans people are kind of like the evil version of the Goth Baddy. You know, this is like it's everything goes wrong. This is the villain from the Gothic novel. But I guess what's really troubling about all of this, this person calling for a trans jihad is how not weird he is I mean, he's weird, Don't get me wrong. he's weird but he's not weird by the standards of the modern Democrat Party. mean Listen to the reporting He was working for another Tanny. Tranny it's now not uncommon for a transansvestite to be in public office. There was a time ten years ago. that would have been completely absurd in both parties. Now, there's a transvestite in Congress, sitting in Congress as a member, a Democrat, of course What the left is going to want to do is say that the trans staffer callalling for the murder of all Republicans is an aberration This is not what we're about and's the Republicans are going to pounce on this story, but this is not indicative at all of what the Democrats are. And the problem is is there's a big difference Think about back in the nineties we had like David Duke. But a similar version of that in the mid to twenty teens, which was Richard Spencer who was a kind of more intelligent, more intellectual version of David Duke, but still white identitarian who would, you know say Hle victory and had Nazi leanings. what's ironic about Richard Spencer is Richard Spencer, I think is now a Democrat because he says the Republicans can't do anything. But whatever. my only point is whether they were pointing to Richard Spencer or David Duke The Republicans certainly could say, Well, no, we're not about that. They they are advancing views that we don't agree with So much so that Richard Spencer, you know says I'm done with Rublicans I'm just going to vote Democrs at least they're competident. But you could say in the nineties, David Duke could be calling for all these things and and it was all the Rublicans would say, no, no, no. We support colorblind meritocracy. No, no, no. We We're the party that freed the slaves, from those Democrats who own the slaves. No, no, we don't have anything in common with this guy. He is not one of us Democrats can't say that about these guys. They can't say that about transgenderism. Obviously, there's a trans identified member of Congress. They've almost uniformly embraced the transgender ideology in recent years and they can't even run away from it now that it's totally unpopular But furthermore, a huge swath of Democrats, prominent mainstream Democrats, have embraced political violence as well, including minimizing and exccusing and celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk, who was the most mainstream Republican? When it says, kill your local Republican, we're talking about that kind of guy So they're totally different scenarios And unfortunately I'm open to a rebuttal, but unfortunately, it seems to me That what's this person's name Deville, Cuella Devill, I don't, whatever the Tstaffer's name is wororking for the other trans candidate That has become the norm. And if you get enough drinks or probably more like hard drugs when it comes to that side If you got enough drinks into Even your mainstream Democrats Something tells me they would start defending or at least minimizing and justifying political violence Something tells me they wouldn't be so totally opposed to Tr Jihad Very, very dangerous. This The staffer calling for this violence is at most, I'm being as charitable as I can Is it most an exaggeration of the norm David Duke in the nineties, that was a contradiction of the Republican platform This person is at most a slight exaggeration of where normal Democrats are at Normal Democrats, increasingly a contradiction in terms. Now, speaking of trans Liberal Democrats trying to murder Republicans. We have finally gotten the sentencing for the guy who tried to kill Breck Kavanagh Remember this a big story and it kind of went away person who over Kavanaugh's decision to oververrule Re v. Wade traveveled across the country tried to murder him and potentially his whole family in his house We have just gotten the sentencing. And it turns out that he too is trans It's alwaysways the ones you most expect. We'll get to that momentarily first though, speaking of understanding public policy and politics I to say you about pepper dine Pepperdine d.edu slash daily Wire. someone's going toite law, someone's going to shape public policy, someomeone is going to advise elected officials, lead agencies and make decisions that affect millions of people. The question is who, I happen to be of the belief personersnel is policy people matter much more than some stated ideology on the back of a napkin. You want the people to be well formed. That is what forms their character, their judgment. These are the people doing the jobs. 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That is go. pepperdine d. edu slash daily wire The man who tried to murder, Rht Kavaugh has been sentenced to eight years in prison and is now a chick. And what's really That's not surprising, you know Transgenderism is an intrinsically violent identity and ideology because it is odds with one of the most basic aspects of nature being seexual difference. that is that is part of distinctions between human beings, much more so than race or ideology or geography or whatever. The distinction between man and woman is core to human identity and So when when you problem with that when you're at odds with that you are simply inclined more inclined to be violent. What is somewhat surprising, at least to me, is the way the Washington Post reported on this The Washingt post She got eight years for plotting to kill Justice Kavanaugh Prosecutors want more. The Justice Department is appealing the sentence of Sophie Roski Sophie Roski, who pled guilty in the case. There yeah. Most people would remember say, hold on, I thought it was a guy who tried to kill Kavanaugh. Yeah And then like a lot of these ch whether for sincere psychosis or just for cynical reasons so that he could be housed in prison with women, which would be easier on him maybe so that he could commit more crimes, who knows? Regardless, he now identifies as a woman And the Washingon Post is going along with it The she and the Sophie and the her and We're still doing this We're still doing this And as I mentioned at the top, right now, the Republican election chances are looking pretty bad. It looks like the midterms are going to be as bad, if not worse as some people were fearing a couple months ago. We're still in silly season. Things could change, but the Iran war really hasn't helped. the historical fact of the midterm after one party wins the whole government. thingsings are compounding at this point to not look great for Republicans. and could be back twenty twenty three era peak woke. like that like that. It's happening. The Washington Post wants to do it. The Democrat partarty wants to do it, The elected, the people on TV want to do it, the rank and file Democrats want to do. They want to bring that back. And there was one guy There is this Catacon like figure. who is stopping them from doing it, and it's Trump. And I get frustrations with Trump. I get that you wish he had done more on immigration. Some people want him to do less on immigration, orr you wish she had bombed Iran harder, or you wish she hadn't bombed Iran at all? And I understand. I don't even mean to make light of it. I understand the issues that people have with Trump. He is the only reason that we don't live in a world full of Frans Chihad And this Wacko identifying as a woman and the newspaper is calling all the men chicks. It's just him. The only reason that that abated at all was because after the twenty twenty four election, the powers that be got really scared, the cultural powers that be got really scared that Republicans had unified government. they were going to come after them. and they saw the popular vote went the way of the conservatives. So that's what they pulled back for now. It could all come back in a second This is what brings me to President Trump at the Roosevelt Library. a couple days ago, president Trump went to the Teddy Roosevelt, the Franklin Roosevelt, the Teddy Roosevelt presidential Library It was great. The motorcade had horses. It was very Teddy Roosevelt. There was this great clpe of Trump debating or interacting with an AI of Teddy Roosevelt. It's all kind of fun wacky stuff. We don't have time to get to all of it Here is just a little bit of his comments Days before the two hundred fiftieth official anniversary of the United States From winning our independence to laying The railroads taming the west and planting our flag on the moon Nothing great that America has ever done has come without staggering effort and This has never come easy It's been really an unflagging persistence that drove us into greatness We had the persistence of people, great men, great women They were persistent. they never gave up. This country was built on the Conviction that just because Something is hard to do. That only means that Americans try even harder And they succeed almost all the time gooes whatever the obstacle, whatever the challenge It's no match for American grit. and you have it probably as much or more than any other place There is may of American. Okay, and you love you got the guys with the bandanas and the cowboy hats on behind him and it's just, it's all great. Nice big belt buckles, real Americana He's just talking about how great America is and the spirit that built America. He's really invoking the spirit of Teddy Roosevelt who you know, maybe until Trump, did this kind of thing second to none. I mean, there are so many parallels between Trump and Teddy Roosevelt all the way down to hosting combat sports at the White House. Teddy Roosevelt would host boxing matches. was pre UFC, but he would host boxing matches at the White House. He would even participate in them sometimes. And there was one time he had to stop participating in them because he was boxing some guy and the guy got him in the head and partially blinded him. TR was partially permanently blinded because he was as president participating in boxing match at the White House. So a lot of similarities there All that could go through my head. Well I'm watching these great comments, tootally normal, you know, nothing nothing all that remarkable about the comments. America iss a great place. You know, we've done great things, We should do more great things. What went through my head is what could have been because Had Trump lost in twenty twenty four, Let's just start there. Had Tump lost in twenty twenty four some Democrats Camel Harr would be presiding over the country for our hundred fiftieth. What speech would she have given at the Teddy Roosevelt Lbrary wouldn't gone. What spee would she have given at the Franklin Roosevelt Library? What speech would Joe Biden? had he been able to pull the drool up from his lower lip and actually stick it out through the campaign. What speech would he have given at the library Even Biden, who's supposed to be the old school, more establishment, more moderate Democrat Well, but the party moves so far to the left of a sudden Jo Bid's embracing, transiing the kid literally transancing the kids. The speech would have been And America, America, listen. We've had our challenges. We haven't lived up to our ideals. We haven't we failed a lot. We've done a lot of bad things. We're racist. the worst The original sin of America of slavery, we've never totally gotten past it This is a place we've gone to wars we shouldn't have gone to We've we've oppressed people. We've kept women down Oh don't get me started on the gays. We haven't done enough for the gays and the trans and the trans kids and man, we suck. We we're a terrible country. but We try to be better and every day we elect another Democrat, there's a chance we could be better But still a lot of our bitter clinging, hideous, rube, toothless citizens, they want to drag us down into Naziism They're with their deplorable politics, but we're going try so that there will be A chicken in every pot And a trans kid in every garage. that's what the speees would have been It would have been a year or that It would have we're looking ahead, obviously the fourourth of July tomorr It would have been a year of that and we don't have that. Instead, we have Big monuments, new arks going up in DC, big state fair on the National Mall, great speeches, bunting and banners and flags. And at the very least, even in a polarized country where one major political party has collapsed in its patriotism, reflected incialed every social scientific survey At least in that country, we got the face of the country, the guy got the bully pulpit saying this is a great country and we've done great things and we should be proud of that and we should build on that. And then what what that got me thinking, fininal point on this, and we'll get to James Talor Rico struggles with whiten and masculinity. What if Trump had remained in office after twenty twenty What if The twenty twenty election had turned out differently Let's just say hypothetically the Democrats hadn't changed all of the rules in the lead up to the election and increased the opportunities for voter fraud inestimably. And what if just however it sh tooook out, I'm not What if Trump had remained in office Well, then he would have been term limited out In twenty twenty four And Mike Pence, I guess would have been the nominee. And I like my pants Look after two terms of any party, it's hard to keep holding on to the power especially someone like Trump We would have had aemocrat And this is the just it's the silver lining of this one of the silver linings that we have of the suffering that we face is that God in hisis provroidence sees a lot more than we do mildly evenven if we were disappinted, I certainly disappointed when Trum when the election turned out the way it did. I can't say Trump lost. I dont when it turned out the way it did. I was really disappointed. and yet Imagine imagine what we'd all be thinking now if we' had a Democrat in twenty twenty five. Okay Before we get to James Talor Rico's sexual and racial struggles W to tell you about Mount Tanu Media Go to mount TitanoMedia. com As we get closer to America's two hundred fiftieth anniversary, I've been thinking about a simple question, how much of our own history do we actually remember, notot the dates, not the trivia the words, the speeches, the arguments, the ideas that shaped the country in the first place. Because one of the strange realities of modern education is that Americans are constantly told what to think about their history while spending very little time actually reading the people who made it That is one reason I'm very excited to be part of a new project from Mount Titonu Media. It's called Finding Our Words, Words that Made America. I think I have a book right here Look at that This is a great, great book. 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You can get a preview of what you would have gotten, the kind of speech you would have gotten had a Dem been in office for the two hundred fiftieth anniversary from the Potential, if not likely, a future senator from Texas James Talerico I shouldt mention, you know My imagination is also just limited by my own my own background and identity, right, my own my whiteness, my masculinity, all those things limit my imagination about what's possible. So I have to continually press against that to try to expand the limits of of what I'm dreaming of for our community. And that's where, you know Dct. Robin in Y your book helps me do that and podcasts like this help me do that H struggle, He is this big struggle. The Germans call it a Kf James Telerico's struggle is with his sexuality Breaking news. It's not exactly man Bes dogs story either. James Talor Rico struggles with his sexuality, but also with his race his whiteness which limits his imagination Now what's so funny about this at a very basic level, I guess Guess we could agree with him In other words, there It is the case, no matter how enlightened and wise we are and people who are wiser, who have some humility, who have gained in wisdom and knowledge they can largely transcend the confines of their circumstances. But there's always some limit That's true. I guess that's true In a certain sense, we can all say that we're limited by a race by our sex, by our So economic circumstances, but I guess You can say that But he would never say this about any other race or any other sex So what here's what I want to hear from James Telorico in total charity I say, okay, you're limited by being what man, I hope he comes on and does an interview. He obviously will not, but They say you're limited because you're white people are limited by their race. Men are limited by their sex. their imagination is confined because of that So can you say, hey Hey, blacks your imagination is confined by your race I don't think you would say that Hey ladies. Hey ladies, I know you're getting a little mouthy here, but just remember, your imagination is confined by your sex Woman Kow your limits, woman Would he would he say probably not So unfortunately, he's making this like really really overstated point because people who have charity, who have some goodwill who have reason who exercise their reason and try to grow in knowledge Your imagination can go pretty far I actuallyually, I can imagine what it's like to be people who are pretty different from me I can even imagine what it's like to be James Talorico, I guess. I really got to stretch for that one, but I guess I could Not only is he making this just tedious HR diversity training session kind of nauseating point But he doesn't even believe because it's not it's not really a principle he holds because he wouldn't he wouldn't apply evenly. Okay. Speaking weird sex stuff, one thing I do want to get to before we get the mail bag we a great mail bag today positive note before people start to go on their vacations for the fourth of July, I know many people are doing that There is some good news on a really one, good news coming out of Texas not James Talerico. And two, it's on an actual controversial point debt Only the real hard line kind of comprehensive conservatives really grasp. I think I predicted a while ago that this issue would grow and grow and grow in the public mind and people would start to change their minds on it, but it would take some time But nevertheless it It's happening. We're seeing good moves here And that's on IVF on in vitro fertilization and the surrogacy industry. Texas Republican Party this happened just a week or so ago The Republican Party of Texas voted to add a plank to their platform citing their desire to quote protect fetal life from destructive practices such as IVF and commercial surrogacy This is Despite the fact, as is reported that sixty five percent of Texas Republican voters support legal and accessible, perhaps even subsidized IBF So this is actual political courage and moral clarity coming out of a Republican partarty organization whichich that is a man bites dog story. You do not usually see courage and clarity coming from the party apparatus. And you are getting that in Texas. And this is another example where I love to say, I hate to say I told you so. because than on the IVF drumbeat for a long time now. And when I first started bringing it up on the show the idea that Actually, IVF is bad and surrogacy is bad ander commercializing and commoditizing human life is really bad. I got a ton of pushback from people. I'm sure there are many people listening now who say, well, I only got my kid through surrogacy. How dare you say there are problems with surrogacy? I only got my grandkid or my niece or my nephew through surrogacy. How dare you say that Of course, that's not a That doesn't hold up as a logical argument I know people who are conceived as a result of rape And I love those people, but you would never say, I only got my friend as the consequence of rape. Therefore rape is good and we need legal rape and need to subsidize rape. No one would ever say that. You would never say that a good end is justif justifies an immoral means. So the question really then becomes, okay, is IVF and surrogacy morally justified. I know people want it. I know I understand how difficult infertility can be, but is it really justified to hand over to Bus people and dubious physicians the origin and destiny of human life, to establish the domination of science and technology over the origin and destiny of human life, and to trade people as you would trade baseball cards or any other commodity, is that really justified to say nothing of then opening up the prospect of Gay couples creating children with the intent to deprive them of their natural mother, father, all the rest of it to say nothing of the fact that The vast majority of people who are conceived through IVF are killed or intentionally killed This is great This is really, really great. The Texas Department of Health and Human Services. I'm sorry, no, the National Department of Health and Han Services Their embryo adoption awareness and serervices program is also now replacing the word embryos in several sections with child children and children who already exist Really important. There's nothing radical about that. It's embryo is just a term for a stage of development of a child of a person. you say fetus, fetus is just the Latin word for offspring. No one thinks it's a platypus. No one thinks it's a desk chair, it's a human being. It's a living human being. So they're just clarifying what it really is. And that's important It's really important that people are now seeing the reality. And at the time, there were a lot of sort of cynical political people who said, Michael, don't go after surrogacy, donon't go after IVF. You know, it's so unpopular to go after those things. It's going to hurt your ratings. It's P peopleople are going to turn on you. just don't touch that issue in much the same way. cynical political operators would say, don't talk about traditional marriage. We lost that battle Just move on. in much the same way that cynical political opporiss say don't talk about abortion Oh, come on, just we lost that btle. Supreme Court ruled twice justust move on. Public opinion is hard to overcome, just move on Notice We have just scored a major victory in winning the abortion fight and many PR victories on that Al also the Supreme Cour People thought it could never happen Already, public support of so called same sex marriage reallyally declined. I mean, you're seeing a real collapse in public support for that And a time will come when people view IVF the same way. It's not because we're some, you, silver tongueed devil who can convince people of anything. It's because People don't know what it is They don't see it for what it is, which is creating children to deprive them of their natural parents in many cases creating people, most of whom will be killed or frozen indefinitely in virtually every case, and commoditizing human life which we all know is wrong. That's happening. That's already happening. E and some of the people who are thinking about this most deeply are even getting a little bit ahead of the demOoss, the voting public on that good stuff. I like seeing that. Okay. much to get to. My favorite comment yesterday is from Zach Killen who says, How many Mayflower cigars do I need to get my comment read on the show You I don't know how many you've bought. I suspect a bazillion. You know, we sold out of the Mayflower Dawn of America, the special limited edition for the two hundred fiftieth and the tubes and the special edition box. told you was going to happen But for those of you who did not get it, we're trying to order more. 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Hey Michael, what are your thoughts on the SSPX proceeding to consecrate new bishops without papal authority I know that you love the traditional liturgy, but you're also not a Vatican and pulpitor as some Catholics are As with all your other takes, I know that you're probably going to have a well thought out and moderate response that'll probably make both sides unhappy, which of course makes you correct. Anyways, thanks for everything you do and for the show. Very precisely worded question and totally accurate. So for those who don't know, there's a group called the Society of Staint Pius IXent. which is priestly fraternity within the Catholic Church. You know, there's all sorts of groups within the Catholic Church. You have different religious orders, the Dominicans or the Jesuits, I think technically we're still Catholic. You get priestly fraternity is like the Society of Stain. Pius IXent, which is I really exists to preserve the traditional Latin mass and has qualms with the Second Vatican Council and certainly with its implementation. You have the preious frourney of St. Peter, which was founded as a kind of an offshoot of the SSPX, which does not object in principle to the S Vatican Council also preserves the traditional Latin mass wonderful, wonderful fraternity in the church U anyyway This all started because In nineteen eighty eight, was it? in nineteen eighties Archbishop Marcela Fv consecrated bishops without the authority of Vatican without theutority of the Pope So he illicitly consecrated four bishops And they all immediately incurred automatic excommunications Now it meant that they could still, they were still validly saying mass But it was illicit It was real that when they consecrate the host, they're really, that's the real Eucharist, you know, when they're really saying mass It was illicit. It was done without the permission of the Vatican And so there's been this power dynamic going on for decades now. At one point, the excommunications of the bishops were lifted. Then one of them was kind of put back on again because the bishop had some impolitic things to say, among other things. And I won't get into all of the details of it They've just just decided okay, they haven't come to terms with Rome. so They're going to illicitly consecrate the bishops again, they incur automatic excunications It's very sad. The whole thing is very, very sad I am opposed to cism, I am opposed to I don't, you know, the ordination of the bishops, it was even kind of dubious in itself because you have to have an apostolic mandate. You have to have a mandate from like the pope to consecrate the bishops. and they kind of worked around that in the liturgy, which didn't totally persuade me. But in any case, it's very bad. I've never attended an SSPX chapel. I love the traditional Latinass. I attend the traditional Latin Mass. But I do have a great deal of sympathy for the SSPX. And one of the arguments the SSPX make The only reason you get these other groups that are kind of defending the traditional Latin mass is because we're the bad guy. Like they're the good cop, we're the bad cop And if you get rid of us, then all those other groups are going to go away too. And you now this leads to a scary conclusion, which is that you know in a way, it's these kind of other groups that save the church rather than the church saving all of us, which I obviously don' don't agree with U However, I guess what I would say my conclusion from this is not to dunk on the SSPX h where I think Most of the people involved have very good intentions. Maybe some are genuinely systematic, but most have good intentions I'm not persuaded really by the arguments of the SSPX, but I love what they are trying to do, which is to preserve the traditional Latin Mass. There's so many abuses, liturgical abuses that came about after the Second Vatican Council. I have great sympathy. The whole thing makes me very very sad. I hope the Vaticanans seem to suggest that they want to reconcile, maybe, you know ay and I hope that happens. that's what I'm hoping here. So yes, I gave you answer that is almost exactly as you would have predicted. How interesting is that? There's so much more I want to get to G's got written mail bad questions, about love, about romance. We don't have time. You got to go catch a flight hope everybody has a beautiful fourth of July Im Michelols is Michel Nuls show See Monday