Parenting Challenges in New York

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I certainly didn't think this would happen this year with this team Like let's be honest Going into the files like Do you think they N were going to win? You' know James Dolan No no, because I encourage people to have sex as much sex as possible J James James would also I mean in the One of the most shocking turn of events. his speech in the locker room prior to the playoffs posted by the roommate Jayla Brunson and Josh Hart It was Infinitely better than I ever expected it to be. How is James Dolan the hero now? I don't think it's cap It was so good I mean, the headline What a every joke. It was like One of the worst owners in the sport. It was like one of the things holding the Nicks back as a franchise. And now I'm like, oh yeah, just I mean, just we're basically just like riding the back of James Stolen to this championship forget Well no, no, no. It's already going to get torn down. I already saw where The guy that used to report for ESPN, June Lee has posted. 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Or if you know what he needs, a cargo liner, floor liners, seat protectors, or the cup foam premium protection. to last and it beats another taie or coffee mug This Father's Day, take an easy win visit Weather Tech C to secure your gift You got to tell me about Saturday night because we have not spoken on the air since then So You know, one of the things that I do on like our text thread that we had with some of our colleagues and I always talk to you about it's just sort of like the pulse of the city whereereas like, you know, the Monday game three was like just flying so high and with the Trump and the loss and everything Wednesday for game four was pretty low Like it was it wasn that intensity wasn' that high. obviously what happened in game four with the tipping and everything. It's just Saturday morning, you know, I've got a this is going to come up later. I've got a thirteen year old son Sot Quincy just turned thirteen Two ten year old daughters and I've got a new bab daughter who's like one. And you know, the other kids are playing video games or whatever they're doing And in the morning, sometimes I was like take my baby on a walk. And that Saturday morning I took her out And it was like eight forty five. I' good get coffee and stuff and you can already feel it There's nick stuff everywhere. People were just out. It was like You could already feel the energy just being so heightened, just that early in the day You know, they're selling the bootleg gear on every corner. likeike it's just like Everyone's talking about it, everyveryone's wearing Nick things. It was just like, It was a The intensity was higher than I'd ever, ever, ever felt in this city for the Nicks Game itself, my wife is like, I got us a sitter. So we can go watch the game together. My friend Robert is hosting a party I love Robert to death I do But he's like a fashion influencer. You know what I mean? Like That's not the crowd that I'm trying to go hang with. And they went to some like like sports clubs like luxury L I went to the website. it's like some luxury sports bar, like elevated experience And I was just like, Babe, I love you to death. I love Robert I love all your friends But like I mean I can't, I just can't I just I can't do it So I also can't be out at bars watching the game because it's like I just don't like being around people. I like listening to the audio. I like being able to have space, you know what I mean? Every bar is packed So I took Joey, my wife downtown I got off around my office and went through a bar them a regular around here, shoted them Was she understanding that you did not want to go to the fashion influencer party? She just't't She doesn't care. Yeah, she's just like, what Okay She's she's she lookook, she doesn't have to mess with the kids. So now you've've been together for twenty four years dude. She's spent plenty of time with me. She's not like, whyy are't you coming with me? No, no, no, no, no. this is a kids thing, right? But you've got the sitter So now do you use the c to be saying I'm getting there, Berno. Okay. So then I go to my local bar by my office here with my massage friends around here and There's a huge line outside But see, my guy John And he lets me in And I have a couple beers before the game started and it's just packed. There's a huge every bar is just packed, everything is packed And I'm like, I got to get out of here. Like this is I'm already getting nervy. know I mean? I had like a beer said hi to my friends Go back to my neighborhood, go to my local where you've been And the game starts And I'm like, I can't be in here surrounded by people. It's pathpacked Like I just can't. I can Every bar is packed. You can't hear the audio. like I like the collective energy, which I really enjoy, which is like one of the reasons to like live here But like I sa it so then around after the first quarter, I go to my house. And this is key. I was like, I'm sitting there. I'm like Well, I got to send the babysitter home right? Like I'm not going to have the babysitter sit in the couch and watch the game with me while I'm like paying her So shout to Tina. I got hurt over. she goes home And me and my son,Quince are watching the game, right We don't have to go through the game, you know, like play by play because that's been done already. Its it feels like it was four days ago But The end of the game was just so crazy Blake It was nuts and Quincy at one point I think it was after one of Jalen's buckets, like that floater Tide the game. I want to say. I've got my notes here, but whatever I put my head down and I pick up Quincy like a helicopter and spin him around You know what I mean? Like, you know what? Yeah, yeah. Like so I'm spinning him around And then I put him down And end of the game happens, which is a real clunky end of the game, likeike a lot of mis free throws, like Should they foul S shouldould't they foul It wasn't like the most like Smooth sort of like cherry on top thing. But when the game finally ends, I go to pick them up again the same way. I fall over smash a chair into pieces. Quincy's got a cut on his face from his like quarter of his lip to his ear. He's not like bleeding, it's go from scratch to the cut And he's yelling at me cursing And then I'm just like, oh my Godd, because I just like break my son when the Kicks won the championhip? It's not I'm hammered either. I had like like three beers. You know what I mean? So with theres chairs and pieces on the floor Quitcy's mad bleeding. And then I'm like, and then the phone is just blowing up and And then Qusie goes to me. He's like We gott to hit the streets. I'm like, Yeahah, dog, like that's right So we go outside their streets. That everybody does. no because you just hear it outside. Yeah horns, fire trucks are going by, fireworks. and I told you this on text This is the energy in New York on that day. It was about five o'clock I was at a bar And there's, you know, local people know from the neighborhood would ever say hi to. And this one guy had a backpack and he was like, I wantm to say his name obviously. And he's like he's like, yo I got dynamite in there in case the Kicks win. And I'm like, who besides like Wiley Coyote has dynamite? Where do you buy dynamite? What do you plan to do with the dynamite if the Ks win? Like the okay, the Ks win. What do you do with the dynamite? Like that's the like the energy. I was like, I don't even know how Dynamite works, Do you really just like light it and then run away? and like what do you kill somebody? Like what are we doing?? Literally the only exposure I have to dynamite is like Wiley Coyote. That's what this guy The kind of guy that you would think. Yes. Yes. you would have to finish. You were shocked that he had dynamite because of the acquisition of the dynamite, but But if you said who in your neighborhood would have dynamite, hed he'd be one of the suspects So like we're outside again, like all the fire trucks are going by because like the fire guys they're Nix fans. So they're, you know, the sirens are going, the city streets are packed, just hugging strangers, h fiving everybody just like Huge celebration. Me and Quitss are going nuts. We're jumping around. Like obviously, we're not going to like bars or anything because they're all packed. he's thirteen years old, you know what I mean And then it dawns on me. We've been outside for like ten minutes. We're like five blocks from the house. Do it dawned on me? We have a baby? We have a baby that we li at the house alone 'Cause the twins were having to sleep overver and my wife is with Robert and fashionate influencers. And I was just like, I forgot about the baby. I was like crazy, Like, this is put and everything. But we got we got baby in their apartment because the baby's there. And then we came home and I did some things I'm not proud of I started texting my wife like, what time are you going to be home And I'm like, I'm so glad that you get to stay out and celebrate this championship They meanans so much to you. I started texting that. And then she calls me and she's like babysitter She's like, I got a babysitter. She did complaining about. She did and I was kind of like, ah And I was like,ere are I supposed to sit with her on the couch, watchatch the game with Tina the babysitter? And that meoey Joey finally came home and that's a whole other set of problems. Yeah. Joey keep stop. I've seen those videos too. Joey came home and we put Quincy to bed and then me and Joey went out and partied and celebrated. and it's just it's been Part of living in, it's so dumb to live in Manhattan and have four kids. No one does it. L it's so expensive. This rats all over my block. stinks. There's crazy people all the time. L we have to cross the street to avoid people. It's just like it's the dumbest thing to be here It's so dumb. Nights like that and weekends like this because if you don't live here, the Puerto Rican Day parade is on Sunday, which is like a huge thing. It just like lights the city on fire. There's a Brazil game on Sunday. The Kicks won the championship. World Cup fans. There's World Cup people here from other countries that I had no idea the Kicks even exist. And then there's people like lighting school buses on fire and just like going nuts. And know how many times I've heard that Licha Ky song in the past fourty eight hours? Like it's just the city was just Absolutely on fire all weekend and it's like community of it. like the collection the bonding together, the positivity, only one shooting and four stabbings on Saturday night. like that's that's a record What F New York And no one else could do this, right? There's two baseball teams, There's two football teams. like the R the Rangers did it in n ninety four. Yeah But this is this is the collect this is the basketball scen likeike you don't need me to tell you that basketball means a lot to this place And the Kicks haven't done it in so long and so many people care so deeply about the Kicks And just like even people from out of town. like I just I would love to sit down with somebody from like Scotland has a hotel in Times Square that was just like what is going on? It it's an Armageddon out here. It really was. It really was. And what has followed? I will say this They win the award as like the best following up to a title with the Instagram lives. with the locker room with the post game stuff Van These guys having to go on national TV this morning Just Oh gee, mean legendary. Not a man of many words, but he would legitimately ask a question on a three letter network on morning TV for the world to see and just stared at the lady I think it was Sabanah. He was just staring at her. I that speaking Well, I heard I think was Fred Kats was on with low and he said he like had never drank And like never had toila before Yeah. No like tried Tquila for the first time and then was like swigging it. and it was like, oh buddy. I mean, I can't imagine how terrible Oh God like after after winning the title for the Nicks, like they flew back that night And then we see these, you know, these videos from the clubs that they're at and they have been living it up. But then they got to go on frigggin Good morning America or whatever the tonia. But also Mcal's life was just like I don't there's no one else in it It's eleven in the morning and he's got a bottle of tequila. likeike I love an adult beverage. You'll I mean trying to think like I don't think I've ever had a shotzkill at eleven in the morning, dude. Like maybe a blame mary to take the edge off from time to time or like I'melada or something. But like, dude, and is just him seeing a la to cold playay It's just like wish she was there when they recorded Lost Yes, he wish she was there. He wish she was there. That's like that's like it's an NBA champion. Almost brought him to tears inst. It's just been and the parade. I don't understand how the parade works. like It's a Are you gonna gohead? Yeah, I'm taking my whole family I don't know what it means though. I think I'm gonna get off the train and I'm not going to be able to go up the stairs because there's going be no room Like I don't know. it' just like logistically doesn't make sense Honestly, like I should probably like get a and try to like row down the Hudson River. That's the only thing the East Rriver. It's the only thing that makes any sense. I don't know how this works. don't know how this works. sounds like you need Joey to call her fresh and influence her friends. I don't think I don't think Robert have the hook up. p you have to be like, Yo, what are you doing for the p? I don't have like a hookup I don't have a helicopter. You know what I mean? Like I don't own a building down therever the rooftop that we can like go to. like I'm just a dude with a podcast. J get Berning, just figure out somewhere. All right, we have got The Nicks have won the NBA championship. It is all over. They closed them out in five games and we have ten thoughts on the Nicks winning the title. Do you want to start or you want me to? You always start. All right Jayen Bronson will still someomehow Remain Urated That was my first thought I love it. Sall guards can win. So he proved that one And then this idea that you well, maybe you don't have to have a superstar to win. That's the one screwed up here because The next winning And Jayen Bronsson winning this thing. And it is a speech that I gave years ago on the mismatch, we had and in fact, a guy went and dug up the clip and I reposted today on Twitter. and it was when he was having this like that season where he averagage like twenty nine points a game and all this stuff. and I'm like, these are Steph Curry numbers, but nobody thinks of him like Steph Curry because we had a previously held opinion this guy And so the answer is not you don't need to have onene of the top five or top ten players in the league or you don't have to have a superstar to win. The answer is Jayen Brunson is a superstar and you have to accept it Like at what point becausecause what do we ask of superstars? We ask of superstars to put the team on their back to help them win more and then to be at their best when it matters most He did all of these things in spades. You have in the last four seasons in the playoffs. He's second and wins behind only Hartenstein. He's second in points per game He's first in thirty point games. He's first in thirty five point games. He is first in forty point games. The last two games of this series he had eighty one points And More so than that you were going to build a team. to make Jaylen Bronsson's life hell. Be one preach super athletic guards with a ten foot guy standing behind them. Multiple though like I said beginame of this series. like this is not a Jalen Brunson series. Right. They've got three guys that are just constructed in labs to stop Jalen Brunson. And so here's what I'd say There will be another round next year of ranking And he still won't be In anyone's top five, it probably be somewhere, you know, at this point, they'll probably you know, because he won the title. they put him somewhere between sixix and ten whatever. but He checks literally every box and over just the last the playoffs obbviously during the regular season, he twenty six points a game seven assists and three rebounds and that's That's during the regular season. During the post season, those numbers get even better. I just listed off all of the things that he has done in the postseason. And so the trick is this. it is not Jaylen Brunton is better than what you've ever given him credit for being This is not because he is not because of how he looks because of how he was previously thought of It's still even to this day and he just won the title. It still won't be accepted R It's because it's not Yonest and it's not Yokage and it's not but like Jason Tatum averaged twenty two points on thirty seven percent from the field when they won the title That's what he did That's what happened when Jason Tatum won his title He averaged twenty two points again g thirty seven percent from the field and twenty six percent from three. That's what Jason Tatan So he did not get better when it came finals time. And what I'm saying is you had a team uniquely built to make Jayla Brunson's life hell And he was still the best guy. Blake. Also Is he going to No one's ever going to consider him one of the five best players But he, you know, it's it's I don't know who gets credit for saying it Everybody' better I know you're going say everyverybody's better Jen Bron until it's time to be better than Jayalen Brunson. Whoever first said that I just want to kiss them on the forehead because I got I got my son saying it too, which is just like yeah, man, women women yamma like I'd rather start a franchise with him than Jalen Brunson. I want to go back to like the origin story of Brunson to the Kicks because there's the Rick Bronsson part And the worldorldwide West part And when he was in that series in u Dallas and Luca was hurt and he really had some games. like I don't have them him in front of. be like a thirty point game and he had some big games and they acquired him. And if you remember back then, like I'm been nick fans so I like know other stuff, it was like Well, Dame was always like a kind of someone who's rumored to maybe be a nick. You can't have Jayalen Brunson Dame Donovan Mitchell, apparently there's like an offer for Donovan Mitchell. You can't really have Jaylen Brunson and Donov Mitchell either So it's kind of like I guess I guess this is going to be our guy. I guess he's the guy And it wasn't like I didn't see this. No one saw it Like today when see forty five in a finals close out game from Sheilen Brunsid like Even I mean, I guess Rick Bronton did but like It's just insane when he's on the team. and I'm going to go to my first thought, which is a b Yeahah I'll I'll just Yeah go ahead. The final point is He is not a superstar, then what is a superstar? What Yeahah What is it I mean, he checks literally every box. of a superstar Yes, and he's a champion and he's the he's got all the trophies Finals EP 's I don't think he was top five MBP this year. Like he was last year his number five last year. He wasn't first He's never been first team all NBA. Jayalen Brunson is a wartime Cliiarary I know you know the godfather And Tom Sorry budd Thank. W Tg When it gets hard, it's just like I've always texted you. Whenever we text about Nix games, I say the same thing. What do I say We've got a guy. We've got a guy It just has to be close. It's just like every game they're down double digits, is's just just keep it close enough for Jayalen Brunson have an opportunity to close. And I think Tibbs Sw The superar that was Jalen Brunson But just just played just tried to just beat it to death. You know what I mean? Like every possession. were Mike Brown is done diversify the offense But if it' at the end of the game, like it's going to number eleven And you know, watching the game on Saturday night Like no one's going to remember this, but that shot that went off the side of the backboard. Like at the end of the shot clock, I was like, o Bro. like this is this is one of those this is like one of those big Sayin Brunson moments And you just kind of like ended the possession off the side of the backboard And obviously, you know, he did what he did from there, but like, He's just, he's a wartime constelllieri. like things can be going bad. The world can be crumbling around him, missed free throws left and right. Carl Towns bowels out. The opposing crowd is going crazy. Harper can't be stopped But you just have this confidence when he is on your team or the team that you root for You just know you always have a shot. got a puncher's chance. And it's like having like a really good closer in baseball.s we just get to Mariano. like it it's like if we if it's within eight with five minutes left Jayalen Brunson can take you home. and like the best thing that happened that I saw earlier today was Malika did an interview with him. and We can what just play the back and forth. I seriously might cow this out of this. What's the one moment, the one play that you think embodies this entire title run When Josh honestly missed de lay up No m I'm trying to be funny. I know usually I and joke about that so. He missed a layout of the game for And then I think OG or S Berham fouled when the And then Josh is on the fourore kind like openold in his face and like be Kat and Jose just ran to him to Get up Next play like eff it like I think that play, I think really emodies this team I think that would surprise a lot of people. I think most people would think it would be the OG put backack or maybe the huge fadeaway that you hit in in game one.. But you're choosing the play where you guys made a mistake and got back up. I feel like when you When you're able to look past the mistakes, you're able to do things like make a shot or get the offensive rebound or like that. But like when you quickly doubt yourself and you have your teammates come and pick you up and say, yo, we're good, we're good. I think that that gives us confidence to be able to make another play. I love it I love it so much. I just absolutely just love it. justust like was what was the one moment? L obbviously the OG tip is going to be like the moment. And Malika brings up that shot that he hit in game one, which I was in the building for, but he's like When your teammates are down and you pick them up Truly the next play. N play and and it goes back to your point originally when you were saying like he's the guy that like you trust when it's on the line. like no matter what else has happened, even if you threw it off the side of the back booard you believe in it. Like it's one thing to keep saying that Um Next play, next play. just let it go, whatever, but like He like lives there Like he really lives that. It is so hard to not let it get you down and to not let it affect you going forward when something bad happens. It's just it's just great. and also like a You know, I love playing basketball with friends and like, you know, sports is so much fun We have said we're so lucky to have these jobs, like The fact that they went to college together, you know what I mean? they've known each other since they were teens And they're like they've grown up together and they know each other as families and they's like they're so close that they kind of hate each other. It's just like relationship it's just like it's just so like perfect. You know what I mean? that these guys like have won championships in college together and you know, the Two things about this team that I think we're very important that you can't overlook one isn't that neither of them are very sexy to talk about a championship team is number one, they were healthy. like You got to be healthy to win. You know what I mean? Like it's not fun to talk about. There's no deep analysis. It's like there's some luck to it. Guess what? No one got hurt. You know I mean? The had other guys available And who were we most scared about throughout this run? OhG when he had the soft tissue thing, you know, ob when you sweep when you sweep, you get to sit. You got a lot of time off Another thing is the continuity in the relationships. You know what I mean? This starting five has been the starting five for a while You know what I mean? Like They've been teammates for a long time. Carly Towns is probably like the last piece that got added and that was a couple years ago. But like they've got a really strong relationships and bonds and like Alvarada was obviously just added, but he's a New Yorker. likeike Ands just like the idea that like Josh Hart was down. He he just killed Larry David, New York icon. Almost almost murdered Larry David. smmoked a lay up in the finals at the garden after they just lost a game And it's like, oh my Godd, we're going gonna be down to nothing and it's my fault. 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More like buyer' rejoice I guuess I'll let myself out. Congratulations. I mean it. Buyers rejoice. Buy your car today on Carbana limitations exlusions may apply S sev day return policy C cararbana I went with my next one is the tortoise and the Hir series. So the reason I this one I saw this one the run down I was like, huh Okay. So this is why I was so jealous. S Sean Ferasy brought this up theZack because fantasy, I love listening to him talk about how much this meant to him as a as I k that grew up in New York and how he never thought this was going to happen. and he really feels like this has changed him as a human being, you know because and everything. but anyways Basketball strategy wise I found this so fascinating that he said he had asked a lot of his friends and wondered what they had thought. And as soon as he said it, I was like, you know, That makes a lot of sense So We just write off like you got to the end of these games. The fourth quarter numbers for Wy were bad. We know that he was much less significant you know, and as were of the spurs came to fourth quarters. Dean Oliver, who is the I know him. Chy. He's the godfather of basketball analytics He had a tweet over the weekend absolutely blew my mind He said thinkink I've got this right Games ended. in forty six minutes The Spurs would have won the series four to one. I was like Wow And we talk about like late game heroics. We talk game one. They won by ten in game one maybe that's the only outlier. The Kicks making these comebacks and all of this stuff, right U And most importantly like you saw Brunton blow by Castle in the fourth quarter. You saw and blow by Wy. You saw Wy not be able to come up big. when it mattered most. And so the reason I say the tortoise in the hair is because Fantasy brought up Did it have an impact And he's like and Mitch Johnson has to talk about this and I haven't really heard anybody talk about this. came out every game shot out like a cannon could not score on them. Wb's flying around Wb's go to the basket. Wb's get all it and it's like Was there a pacing to this where the Nicks are like, you know, they're getting a haymaker thrown at him at the beginning of these games and the reason I called it the tortoise in the hair is because that's the old Fable, right? I did. And it did feel that way, right? Like we're the Kick's just the tortoise in this deal and like the sppurs press and full court right from the beginning. Like these are guys that are playing at a infinitely higher intensity and more minutes than they've trained themselves for all year And the idea that they did not have the stamina to be able to do that B the time it got to when it mattered most is suuper fascinating to me and that's what it made me think of. It's like, this is like a tale as old as I like you read this when you're a little kid. And it's maybe the Kys were just the tortoise Think about game to when it was just win be dunk, win be dunk, w be lob, win be dunk. And then and then think about the fourth quarter of that game, Winb be jump shot, winb be jump shot, win be jump shot, right? Think about I maybe that's game three Think about beginning of this game five. justust think about like the first four possessions Wemby block, Wbi three, Wy, block. I had two blocks the first two possessions likeike it's just like They start so hot and they seem so focused. and they just That's the way that they should play and they know they've been coached up to play that way. They just can't maintain it, especially Wimby. It can'tank right?ank there is hundred There's some Back Elon Musk issues in there, some of the decisions, the rotation patterns, but I also think it's a bigger, bigger thing where it's like, you put the guy on a minist restriction for the entire season. So he's like he's playing twenty one minutes, thirty minutes the entire season. And then when the games are the most physical and most intense and demand the most of you He's playing forty, forty four minutes. It just that just doesn't add up. literally doesn't up, doesn't work. And you see it You see it right there and like This team is so young and you talk about battle scars and that transitions nice into my next one, which is like I just want to shut out the spurs You know what I mean? Like I'm a jerk or whatever But lake This was a very fun series to watch. These games were so intense. Ball bounces this way that way. You know what I mean? Like this is this could easily be Th, two spurs or whatever. could be four one spurs like like you know, said This is the best five game series ever ever. Oh, not even close. N not even close. But like they are they are so young and my God, Dylan Harper. L I don't understand L I might be another problem with black Elon Musk like. I just don't understand why he doesn't start. I don't understand why he doesn't play more minutes. I don't I just don't I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what's going on there, but like Castle Harper and Weemby like dude Well, and I will say this Castle got off the hook with his one for ten because, you know, because Fox and WemB and those guys Oh yeah. they got on the R Castle was one for ten Hart that way was that one was the putback at the very very end. R. You know, he had Yeah had it came to one forend though with your whole season on the line is at home is rough stuff What? no, Do what that sounds like to me, br no Battle sc battle scarred. I mean look. these are These are not scarred. This is like getting your legs and your arms blown off. I do This is so far This is so far beyond sc. I just want to say like The peopleople in San Antonio were so sweet. The spurs were so good. This was so close. that like and I'm not just saying this is like a because I should say it, like I It sounds like you're doing the post game handshake Yeah, Well they did not We'll get there. We'll get there We'll get there, but honestly, like the spurs were so good that this was like If you are a Spurs fan You've got a young team that is really, really good with ton of potential and three guys on rookie deals that are like Max playlers right now. Shouts to Leon Rose is my next one St Leon Throw worldorldwide West in there too. I don't think he gets enough credit. And worldwide West Jame stolleen even you got to give him credit, right for if it just telling people not to have sex and maybe getting out of the way. Some of this is great moves. some of this and you all every champion will always tell you. you need a little luck in this, right So here's a couple of things here The first one, you look at how that roster was built They go and get Brudson for one hundred four million dollars originally from the Dallas Mavericks. That's the That's the king move, right? obbviously in retrospect Didn't feel like it at the time though. I would like that's the cornerstone of the franchise going to bring us a championship. But you've got to look back like that's a nice piece. It's better than Emanuel Moodi and mean And then they get OG for RJ. Barret and Emmanuel Quickly, who they drafted and developed who you want to say Berno Sard to interrupt All you know, I'm on all the Nicks fans threads and all we do is talk about Nicks. I love the NBA That was People loved EmmanuelQickly. RJ Barryt. A lot of my Nick fan friends were like What are we doing? This is terrible Why did we do this? And I had to tell him, I was like, this guy can play defense Like he's a defender. All I' say it all of these moves all of them All They're not all celebrated. No, none of them point None of them were celebrated Brunson signing. OG for RJ. Barrett and Emanuel quickly The riskiest by far, McCal Bridges for five first round picks Towns for Randall and D Vincenzo which even a year ago, If I would have polled and said, hey, you could have the trade back There's a lot of fans that would have taken the trade back. You know, mean they would have Yeah Randall was not very popular, dude. No, no. they were watching him in the in the Westerark conference finals though That's what you got to go back to. and they love Dante Yeah R right And obviously Hartenstein was having his success playing for playing for Oklahoma City last year. But not all I'm saying is none of those and then around the margins, right the Alvarado deal and obviously McBride and different guys that a rollle at that. But well I always say this about the Dante thing is and we talked about this on the show and I bring it up all the time because it was an important part of this sort of like roster shaping history is that preseason game when Dante was in the garden yelling at the bench. Oh yeahember. Yeah. That was weird. That was like, oh oh I was like, oh oh I don' I don't like this. like some unhappy people here. And this is this feels emotional and personal and there's things going on that I don't know about and that made me feel weird as a nick fan because sorry. And here's the most important one And again, sometimes it takes some luck Maybe this was luck because you remember they went on this worldwide tour where They fired tibbs and then they like It was like it was going to be Jason Kid. then was going to be Billy Donovan and there's going to be all these guys with jobs and they all ended hosting the married women. They down in one knee's like right married. And so then it comes down and it's like Taylor Jenkins and Mike Brown And All things they end up with the absolute perfect coach. forward this And I said when they did it that there was probably an eighty percent chance you don't get as coach as good as Timbs That's what I thought I could find. you fire him bro, it's way easier to do worse than it is to do better day Good. or that group They did And Leon Rose and that management group credit for that. Leon Rose is still as far as I know, not talking. like if you never he just he just doesn't talk at all. He doesn't even say anything And this thing and he walked away from sports agency. I told you the first time Well I met Leon Rose several times over the years as when he was an ager, right? He was he was around John Calpererry had Derek Roseen all those guys back in the day Yeah And then becausecause I'd hear Leon Rose, Leon Rose, Leon Rose like you hear about him all the time. And then I went over to like the Memphis Tigers prractice facility I showed up one day. theyre like, hey, Chris, you want to Hey, I want to introduce to someone because Worwide West is over there all the time too because that was Cow's guy And Leon was there. they're like, this is Leon Rose. And I was like He's white I had heard him I know in my mind, I'd heard Leon And then I And then I told you I can honestly say this The year that the grizzly sign Yonis Valentutus. in free agency. no, no,, they traded for him. Steven Adams tradade. I think it was. whatever. He They had they had attained Jonas Funers And then We're at Subverlyeague And we get ahold of him and he's going to come to my room in Vegas Do an interview we're going to meet Yonas Faloo for the first time Yonas walks in and Yonas's wife It's like Drago's wife in except forier and they had like this long blonde hair and it's like they walk in and I mean like Obviously Valentunus is a monstrous guy, right? Yeah. And the three people. now imagine this. we are stuck in this little ass hotel room And it's me Roser, my producer Yonas Valentunus, his wife and Leon Rose, his agent Wh is there in the room And that was the Iviously I' met him when he was at Memphis before, but at that time he was representing players like around the league. And then when he got that next job, I was like no way the agent guy Really? Yeah because I mean, he had been an agent for a long, long time and was like Mega powerful like him and West were like you know, that's when things were going on in college college basketball is way different now as wild wild West and Worldwide West was everywhere. Leon was everywhere They' representing all kinds of players. You'd see them in high school gyms, you'd see them in college gyms, see them everywhere and all the way up to representing guys like Yon Fount Tun, etcetera. And then They just announced one day. he's going to run the Kicks and I'm like That is crazy They're going to hire an agent to run the next this guy just delivered The first championship in fifty three years and that crew of him Wy West, Rig Fronton like that whole crew Like Oh yeah. It's unbelievable because that's not. There's a special skill set goes along with it, right There is Well also Bernult, there's a personality type to be an agent. They are At least Wes, I don't know Leon Rose at all But I've met Wes a couple of times But he is a smiley, gregarious, toy, like chummy like, you know, like a big personality talker guy But they sort of like made a pact. They're like, we're not doing press. Yes. L we are silent behind the scenes. And that's just sort of like not at least I don't know Leon, but not Wes's nature. But it seemed like they just said like for us to be as effective as we have to be at this, we're just going to put our heads down and do the work and not try to be in front of the cameras and take the credit He's done they did an unbelievable job and they just you they deliivever ist The Spurs are a good example. had had three top five picks in three straight years And the picks were sort of like right there in front of them, but I think that what the Nicks have done is true roster construction to make sure that these players work well together and accentuate each other's strengths and cover up for each other's weaknesses Bw, not a impossible to duplicate what they've done Yeah this this is like a copy paste we know the blueprint. No. This isn't like a oh this isn't like the warriors was like, all right, we needs the three point shooting. You know what I mean? Like it's like it's, it's, this isn't like the Celtics like Mazoula ball where it's like, we're going throw up a bunch ofrees. That's our philosophy and's we're going to ride to the championship. This is this is a one of one. But it's just fascinating because Bob Myers was a big agent back in the day Lena was a big agent back in the day. I mean, somebody should go hire Mark Bartlles Ste under de You know what I mean? Like these you these agents have done pretty good for themselves. I happen to produce a podcast that features a very prominent agent. Oh my God. what if somebody hired Rich Paul's GM Should happen I prefer him. I prefer him in Max doing the show that I produce. So how tell Byers won a title, Palinka won a title, Leon w a title. L there's a bunch of these agents that have pulled it off. Maybe that's the copy paste. It's not the copy pasted or the strategy. It's copy paste the front office strategy. Yeah So that is a good one. 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All right, I'm gonna go just because to justort of piggback on top of yours, I'm going to jump one of mine and go to this one when the Nuggets w. with Murray and Yokitch and that team E even before that when the Celtics one It was like this is the beginning of like a Celtics run multiple championships when the Nuggets won with Yogahip felt the same way. and when the Thunder won with all of their picks and all of their youth, it just felt like this was the beginning of another run of championships or it felt like The Nicks We need to together a team that will beat the Celtics in a playoff series Which is why you have the OG trade, which is why you have the picks for brridges because wing stop We need to match the Celtics in a playoff. series And you know, when the warriors back in the day with the rockets here to build this team to beat the warriors and even the nuggets the timimberoles we we need to build this team to beat the nuggets. This weirdly doesn't have that feel to it Like doesn't this feel sort of like a one off Doesn't this feels like a All of these guys are peeking right now. they're all coming back. No doesn't feel like a run of consecutive titles for the New York Knickerbox T tolls. I don't know they could run a fank. That's more than one. They tos. Oh okay. Well, I'm not say they can't No with the thunder in and the spurs, we looked up but we said this could be the next decade Right? That's what I was say. No know, of course, we're not saying the next decade when Bruntson Well mean he's twenty nine, thirty nine. He might curre at eight no good it is guy doesn't jump or run fast. I I certainly think they could run it back next year and do it course, especially with the Easter confonerence Why they not whyy did they not be the best team in the Easter C But this it didn this doesn't feel like dynastic. That's all I'm going to say. Well, there are none anymore I would say a team that's able to hold it together though. if they're able to run it back with those five guys M again, the continuity.' like and they know each other. because I mean, you're going to have like, you know, Detroit's going to try to augment what they've got going on. Who the hell knows what's going on with Cleveland Who the hell knows what Boston's going to have to where you along or if Jalen Brown to leave any more I've seen fin Jalen Brown in like four different unities. I I like what was going on? I mean these guys were a Twitch stream being no sudden he has to get traded. I mean, are they going to be able to get past the wizards? That may be the Yeah Yeah the wizards are just like out of. I look at it and go like I look at the Easter coverage right now and like who knows where Janis is going to end up And if he's going to be on a better team that he was obviously going to be on a better team that it was on, but like Good enough, team. surrounding him once they unload whatever they're going to have to looad to attain him. The Nick should be in a good spot next year too This should be again, what let's just talk about next There's a reason that we have had different. title winners Parody has reignedupreme. We wantanna say nine, right aren't the next nine Yeah nine. Wow. I don't know, who knows eight, nine, what All right. I'll keep the next one short Not great for kids with overbearing dads. Like you're getting no breaks kids Now that now that Brunson won You are smoke I mean, there's some poor bastard probably in my neighborhood right now. like running up a hills like Jaleob Bon like you don't get tired. K your follow through. It's like We've all seen the clip of him like merable on the court. having to do the drills over and over again And it's like There's a look, let me just tell you. there's for every For every Rick Brunson, there are a million overbearing dads whose kids are never going to be good. And that's the issue here, right? You just gave life Even if this kid is five foot nothing, you've given the overbearing like I look Mine. told you, we went into a AAU t we went into the NikeYB EYBL William was I think he was eleven Now maybe twelve, thirteen, something like that When we went to go see Cooper Flag when he was in high school. Eiot Cadau was there. Caleb Wilson was every It was Nike UYB out We walked in And there's a guy. He plays in college right now, but he stinks. hisis name's John Bow, but he's a gi guy. Oh why is this guy catching strays? Geez But he was we walked in. He was seven foot four. No he's in college He's like set I mean he's a giant. Gi And we watch These kids were like driving in and there's no like defensive three seconds or anything in high school like in EYVL I watched this kid swap five shots in one possession. Like kids just trying to get the and I turned to my son. I was like You would never get a shout off on this guy in life. Like And I think I ru I think I ruined this dream then. You know what I mean? I knew like I go to those gyms and I'm around these players all the time. I understand four hundred and fifty of these jobs. mostost of these guys ain't even like you're lucky if you even get a cup of coffee. You can't fill up the lower bowl at Madison Square Garden with the amount of people that have ever in the history of life, on an NBA jersey. half of those didn't get to put it on two years. All right. That many people make the NBA. It just but now there's the video going around Brunson's five foot not in and is become one of the one of the greatest players in the world And it's like, okay Please don't let him donon't let the O B get. Don't do it for the fire. Yeah. He ruin I know Brunson ruined it for everybody by doing this I sure did Um, Okaykay. Do it again This is a big one I don't know how we got here But if you listen to the mismatch You know that I started lookingking sideways at Victure Wimbin Yama at the end of the summer Like it was like it was like August, dude And I was just like, something about this guy. is just so curated and groomed and He's just so perfect in the way he reads and All the sholin monk stuff, the documentary crew, like I don't. I've never been to a shhalon temple. But like I'm sure that some of the teachings aren't Make sure you bring a camera crew and put this on TikTok You know what I mean And somehow over the past month Hating Victor Wiminyama has gone mainstream. Like I'm not alone anymore in this. I remember when I first did my Wimbie rant You were just like you're the only person in media who feels this way. Literally Now it's like everybody. the only one. Who was the everybody now and the handshake thing and the flagrant fowls. And now Sean sweetheart, Seaan Fenessey is saying it's Mictor Wbinyama. L and my whole algorithm is just like, Rby haters and it made me think back to Sip Baylas is calling him victim whenama. Yeah I mean, I coined Lz Binyama. I last season. You did Yeah Everybody everybody's favorite second place player. Now everybody hates him. It's weird. and like Dude it makes me think about, watch you walk off? I don't care about the handshakes. No I don't care I really don't care. You're gonna say Oh do. this is No. No no, no no, I'm not going back. No, no, I'm not going back. I'm not going back. No I hate him. I still hate No, I have This is. I really feel it. This is not just me doing like a bit I really do feel hatred for this guy. No, no, no, but I don't care about the handshift. You've got his ag You have to. Yes, it is. This is like the the guy that like bro, this band just came and played at my frat house They're named Hoodie and the Blowfish. And then they sell fifty million records and That's exactly what what I know you were you were in on hating Wimby when it was an indie band, but now they're the biggest band in the world. But this isn't a bit. I really don't like you. Like I really don't. You're you're a trailblazer But I know, but like That's what I was thinking about when I was watching walk off And he said and like the handshake thing is really whatever to me. It made me think about the gold medal game. Do you remember when he was crying after the gold medal game in Paris I'm starting to think I was like, wow, this guy's like had a couple tough ones. You know what I mean? Like games Big stages and he's takaking elves. L alsoso the one with Chad The put that's a b. N that's a b Yeah I know when he said I'm saying he was sacrificing that too when he says like I had trouble sort of like recalibrating after winning against the Thunder. I really felt like He felt like they were favored in the finals and this was going to be the year he wins the championship. And they look, they dominated most of the series as he said They did I forgot he said that too. Oh this guy just keeps giving us more ammunation dominated the series You. Can you lose four on? And say you dominated the how? for large portions large portion What are we talking about? Unfortunately, he's it mattered most, but there were large portions. Look, inair I'm going to defend him a little bit here. No don't. No. Yeah. no. no acccording to those dominated the series thing, how do you fix your lips and use the word dominate and when you lost for one? Well, because like they had like a ninety percent chance to win like all of those games ofording. they didn't. I under But they did' it. I understand And they lost to the Kicks. And here's what really, here's what the icing on on the hating Wimby Kate Cake is I'm sure you've seen the video, everyone listening to this is probably seen the video by now is Jalen Brudson at the post party with the team raaising a class in the air and his toast two words long. And the thing is is to the camera that's filming So I don't think he thinks he's being filmed or the audio is being picked up and his toes after winning the championship And to have Saylen Brunson you so mature and measured say that You know he feels away. You toast to that I mean, I've been doing that for years. Yes, Uah. Yeah. I said I say that it's like saying Grace at the table with my family We all sit down, put our heads down and say together, fuck weby and then we start eating That's how it works at the Dacob house. I gotta tell you way ahead of your time way troubzer. Influencer. way ahead. Influencer is what we call it. B Influencing. We just gott to find somebody else to, you know, I mean, we gotta move on. We gotta move on to the next guy that we gott to hate. Like Did you see I you saw the thing that I reposted with that one guy who did like a think piece about me hating Wimpy Did you see that thing? He was like, he was being all philosophical about it. I was like you put way more thought into me hating women than I put into hating women. just's just sports bro. We're just talking about sports. We're just talking about just sports. Oh God. We don't. It's just like I don't like the guys's on the other team that my team is playing and he's very hatable Last one. Things got back to normal for a year Abby I love this one. Look. I mean, I I wrote I wrote it to the wheels fell off last year Tabed. for twenty star in's titles, the he of the Lague has told us b you wrote and the wheels fell off and you went flying through the windshield onto the concrete. Well, what happened is the driver tore his Achilles cameame seven O no fault of mine He was he was cooking too. Halliburton was cooking He was cooking. N man, this can't happen yet. This team's got to get some scars. Well Pur's got like As I said earlier, that's so far beyond scars. It's unbelievable. Like I mean, They're going they're going like this is the this is can't imagine. If If one of those happen, to my team I would have like nightmares about it. like just for one of those l. justust one of them I mean, I mean, the whole damn thing is just the same way that it is pure euphoria for Nicks fans. L I always think about this when when we were kids They used to have these commercials that were on TV and it would say Orers spports Illustrated to get the DVD with it, right? The Nick I want one so Championship want one so b the Nick Championship DVD and it will be greatest DVD ever relive the moments of It's actually it's actually just Michaelle Bridgess live stream. That's all it. don't have any basketball with it. It's just him singing Cld playay. The reverse of that is like maybe the most unbelievable nightmare DVD is the NBA finals from the spurs perspective We were winning every game. L always games And I'm watching them for the second time. I'm like, how did the Dicks win this? How wness. we watched the other the game five just now before we did the pot. I was like, I can't believe the next wness thirteen points with nine minutes left in the second quarter Burno Thirteen points. Sounds like you're agreeing with Wempy They're being dominated M' time. The Nicks just walked them down But this is walked them down The history of the NBA is it's guys that are battle tested. It's guys that are grown ups And it's got and typically the best player on your team is Upper twenties And obviously Brnton to twenty nine, like that's it's his first one that he's gotten and he's twenty nine years old It's also continuity. It's not usually that you can just like put stars together and it works year one. Like look at the heat. You know what I mean, the heatles. Like it's a continuity and health are two it's not sexy to talk about on an NBA podcast but like those are two of the main things that fueled this championship, R. Absolutely People that know each other know each other's games, have real relationships off the floor. And then add Jose Alberarto. There There you go I love Joseel Roth so much. the fact that he's at the Puerto Rican Day parade. after winning a championship, the fact that he said like realize that the bacon egg and cheese is a very regional thing. You're like, can you get a bacon egg and cheese in Memphis? Yes. Yeah, right? They're everywhere, right? Like I'm alone It's a normal breakfast sandwich. Thankk you. R. It's the way he says it. Yeah.'e becausecause at the episode might drink some headesy too. And McCb is like, Oh, we're drinking in the morning. Hold my potatoight tequila I can't imagine what's going to happen at the parade. I' know Oh God L he is go he is going to be The star I can't get enough I can't get enough of this videos. again,' so dumb to live in Manhattan with my family. It makes no sense. This makes a community proud just the joyous nature of everything. It's just funny and it's awesome. it's like the dumbest place to live, but this is why you do it This is it. I do wonder the psychology of it because this changes everything forever. literally. sayay that again Changes everything forever. It changes everything forever. No, it does. like because it's always like He spent fifty three years trying to climb them mount What happens when the when he got to the top. You know what I mean? Like I'm just talking about the pology the students. And th. I know That's what happens. And they were never, you know, I heard somebody say this. They're never like became lovable losers. You know what I mean? Like they were never like no. This iteration was a pretty successful But but everybody, you know, I mean, like they Anybody that's a Nicks fan, you even said it When we started this podcast, I heard Fantasy saying it earlier type they still can't believe it can't believe it. They don't know what life is like w the Kicks can win the championship and never dreamed that it could That's just not that's not what the Kicks do. No, they doking. They've never done it And they're losing in every game and you you think they're going to lose every game in this series. Right. You know, you have confidence that Jaylen can help, you know what I mean? But like still, you're just like, oh, God, here we go again. It's five to fifteen and Mike Brown calls a time out Like every single game I'm sitting there with my son. I'm like, I can't believe Ive made my son stay up for this. He's just going to get disappointed again. And next thing you know, we forget about the baby and we're out in the streets taluggking strangers So here's one thing I want to say It's a little negative because you know I' like to be negative. And I' already violated this on this podcast. There's a thing happening around town and conversations I have about the Nix, which is what all anybody does All anybody does is talk about the micks The World Cup whatever Stanley Cup, whatever No one cares People are already talking about next year And I'm like Everyone Let's not talk about next year until next year. You know what I mean? Yeah, I got these people talking to me about like, oh, this person's unrestricted and restricted. I'm just like, God, like o, we're gonna bring it back again repeat. You know what I mean? You want to You want to enjoy this. Yeah. It's like it's been like three days. like Can we just celebrate this and just enjoy this and have a parade And then put up a banner and get know what? I'm with you. We're going to let that happen for this entire episode I'm not going to talk about Peterson the draft coming up. not going to talk about all these trades and rumors. That's what we're going to do. No, we're not talking about Jonis in our episode on our episode on Friday. We'll do all of that I got to do Slitter getting his job. Who cares? I got to before we wrap I got to you onerief story from the weekend My son had a birthday party on Sunday So for all parents, this is our birthday party hack It's not that expensive to rent a movie theater Right? What Yeah, it's like four hundred bucks. No Yeah So you get right in the middle of Times Square, we get the whole theater Mandaline and G group. Yeah I didn't know youy bucks. Yeah. I did not go I I've never even heard anybody do that. So we do it all the time. Like almost every year one of them's gonna to get d, rent out the movie theaterre You buy it' expensive. You got buy of poporn and soda and whatever, you know what I mean? And then you put and then you got to tip the people that clean the thing. Oh. it probably costs a grain. Yeah. So it gets you up there. gets up there. So we've got like twenty five, thirteen year olds, right And my wife and her sister take the baby and they go downtown to go pick up the twins or do something. So it's me and twenty five, thirteen year olds in the middle of Times square. Nicks just won the championship night before Puerto Rican Day Parade is happening. There's a Brazil soccer game. this is the middle of Times Square. It's chaos outside Here's one thing I didn't realize. I want to talk to you because you have older children too a little bit of a mismatched parent corner here is When they came, when the movie was over, we' supposed to meet in the lobby. So it's me in twenty five thirteen year olds, right? Bys and girls and they're like older kids now. They're thirteen. They're teens twenty five kids, four parents come to pick up the kids So at this age, you can kind of move around the city by yourself. As the dad, I'm like, I've got the don of seventeen, thirteen years olds. I'm like am I supposed to like let them loose in the middle of Timesquare amidst all this chaos And then every kid is like, I'm going to go take the train. And I was like callall your mom or dad so I can talk to him on the phone and confirm that this is okay. So next thing you know There's like, I'm in charge of all these kids and they're walking all these different directions. I'm just like way over my skis. Is that common No I I'm saying the first time. But does your son just take the train someplace? Yes. but yeah, we traack him and call him. Yeah, he does. He's at the age. He's also gigantic. My son is like bigger than you, likeike literally. I would I mean, I would never I would then so that, but I've got I dont care about my own kids. I obviously leave them in the house, but like other people's kids are more like precious. You know what I mean? I'm responsible for my own. I agree with you. I would absolutely. I was having a panic attack Th one of his friends Tommy, Tommy's mom comes Tommy leaves, he goes on the train. Tommy's mom stayed with me becausecause she saw that I had no handle of the situation. Her son isn't even involved anymore. I was like, Wh which one is your kid? She's like I' Tommys mom. I'm, whereere's Tommy? She's like, he already left. I'm like, so you're just here because you can tell that I have no control over these children. They all want to get into one Uber. There's like twelve of them. I'm like, we need more than one Uber Long story short Dad No, Dad is a nightmare. Nightmare. and there's girls involved too Oh that's it's a nightmare. Yeah unli like one of the most chaotic weekends in the history of New York City. I would rather be a spur rewatching Game four It all worked out. No one died. I assume everybody got home. you don't know anything about. No don't No You don't know why some of these kids doesn't like you have it Did people ask you how you got the scratch on your face He's like, Yeahah. I was like, well, what'd you tell him? I was wondering you what I mean? He's like, my dad beat me up. He smashed me into a chair because the next one championship. Like it wass like a WWE move. he's like, I told them that I threw a chair. He's like, it sounds cooler. I was like, okay. Yeah, that's smart. How many of the twenty five kids would you say you knew personally Literally, Really Four. Yeah It all work d N Champions. The N Champions. Oh God, it's crazy. You're going to go to the this actually happen. You're to Yeah. All right. T my whole family. that We're going to reconvene later this week and we'll get to hear about the parade happen Friday morning we'll do the shows. Okay Friday afternoon. All right. We'll do the show on Friday morning since the parade is on Thursday and then We'll reconvene talk about all of that then as well as the draft will be coming up next wee next to will be on the trailblazers Yeah, Jan is going to be somewhere I mean, I don't even know what's real anymore. It's like this this this Der Dare Fox unfold this I'm like what's going on? I think this's real? have no idea what's real. And we have a week from tomorrow is going to be the NBA draft. So we got a lot to talk about later this week. Thanks to Jeff, Steph and Jesse as always and Jacoi. I'll talk to you later in the school