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Looking Ahead to Game Two

From Jacoby Went to the Game. $888. Zero Regrets. Knicks Win.Jun 5, 2026

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Lominia Mal steps into McDonald's L looks left sees Pulick, looks right, se Simenez, Gives a nod to Ronaldino in the corner with a FIFA World Cup meal Ronald Dinioch sees Sun in the booth, Sun finds Beckham going for extra bigig Mac sauws. He's got Dav's at the table just behind him. Davy's going for his collectible cup.! A steal by Henry. Who pulls his own collectible cup? Collect one of nine legendary cups with a FIFA World Cup meal. P participating McDalds for un limited time law suppies last, Allights reserve twenty six McDonal's FFor Cup twenty six Welcome to the Mis Match. I'm Chris Varan, and join me us every week from the Ringer d. com This time from San Antonio, Texas. J cored Bernnao I'm in San Antonio And on the last episode, I said I wasn't going to the game. But I'm sitting here in my hotel room. Game day being like, am I really going to watch this game here 'cause I like to listen to the announcers and take notes and be a professional. I was like, no, I'm gonna get a ticket Walk me through it So at what point during the day do you decide lookook, I can make more money. What I can't do is get this moment back. I am in the city where the NBA finals are going on tonight and beyond that The team that I root for is in said MBA finals and has a chance at a first title in fifty three years. at what point during the day are we Prior to lunchtime, are we after lunch? G question This episode of the Mismatch is presented to you by WeatherTech Let's face it Buying for dad is always a bit of a guessing game He's not dropping hints and quote unquote, I don't need anything is what he always says, it's not helpful But there is something he'll actually use and that is weather tech Get him a gift card. Or if you know what he needs, a cargo liner, floor liners, seat protectors, or the cup foam premium protection. built to last and it beats another Thaie or coffee mug This Father's Day, take an easy win visit Weather Tech Come to secure your gift today Great question, Perno. You know, you're in my head already because I have children. So I wake up at six every day, No matter what time zone, no matter what it is, six on the dot, ready to go. And then I look around. I'm like, oh wait, I don't have anybody to take care of here So then I go back to sleep, right Um And then it was around. I woke up at like eight thirty nine And I got a little breakfast, I drank some water. And I literally didn't have work until after the game because I'm producing the Game Overpod with Rich Paul Mask coming in. please subscribe and like or whatever you comment, whatever you guys do on the internet And um I was like Am I really just going to sit in this hotel room and listen to the announcers and like take meticulous notes and be a nerd about this basketball game? or am I going to be a fan and have an experience. So I open up my app that I used to buy tickets that doesn't sponsor the shows. I'm not gonna say it And I was like, No know what fififty yard line. midway and the top level section two awayait. So right I'm dead. I'm looking right at the Larry O'Brian trophy Midway up and it was eight hundred and eighty eight dollars That's. Is that with fees and everything? Everything. All in. Okay. All right, that's all. Did I tell my wife I spent eight hundred and eighty eight dollars? No but never hearing this anyway, right? Yeah, she's not listen She listens to the mismatch. She listen to me when I talk to her about the money and the children, please not listen to this. So I did it, I was bottom. I was like, you know what? Like I'm here. I'm doing it even some or one. O. I bought one ticket.. You bought a single ticket. Someone was selling a single ticket in the middle of the upper deck at the fifty yard line eight hundred and eighty eight dollars. They probably sa seven hundred of it. They probably saw seven hundred of it, but All right. All right. so that you buy at this point you buy the ticket and you know you're going to go. The other thing I will say and I don't know where you're staying, but in San Antonio, when I went before I went to it for a final four and I loved it because everything was in walking distance I don't know if that is the case what what's going on there The Spurs were very nice to us and game over as a show. So we had a post game show at the Spurs practice facility, which is kind of in the Stys, which is where I'm staying near where that is. So I'm about twenty five minutes, I think north of like downtown San Antonio. but I assumed because I've been in pretty much every NBA city, I've only not been to Milwaukee and Minnesota And I've been to all the arenas, but this is one I had not been to. So I assumed it was like downtown. It's not a big town. like My Uber driver's like, o no, I stay outside of the because I can't deal with the craziness of downtown San Antonio. Oh my go, are you kidding me I'm like like this is too like this is too urban for you. like this They've got like four big buildings in a river. Yeah you gotta you gott to be out in the suburbs. So here's here's so Verno, like I'm an idot. I'm an absolute idot I get the I get the thing. I'm planning my whole day. I'm like I want to get there early, right? I want to get the early the experience. I spend a lot of money this tet. let me get there early tootally forgot we're in central time No. I thought the games at eight thirty So right around six o'clock, it dawned on me. I was like, wait a second the games at seven thirty not eight hundred thirty. And you're for sure not going to be early now And then I get in the Uber and this is the most San Antonio thing about the whole experience My Uber was a silver Silverado Uber. so good. Mario, the guy so good. He's like, I don't care about the spurs. I don't care about sports. He's like, I don't care about any of this stuff. I was like I'm not kidding. When is the last time? You saw a pickup truck. A pickup I mean, I see pickup trucks You do in the city, not in the city.'s there's zero pup trucks in the city. No, that's what I'm saying. So don't happen likeike in Queens in Bonx and stuff O outer boroughs happen, but Manhattan there's no pickup trucks. You won't zero It's just it's just a waste of space. Like Manhattan's about Maximizing space Right And pickup trucks is just too much space. like h literally half of my buddies have like I love seventy ones I love Dod Rams and like, I mean, they've got Like they're like hunters and so they use them for hunting and like, I mean, so there's pickups. everywhere where I live, but where you live, there are no big none noneone And then I get to the game. I walk in. I'm not going to make this story too long I walk in and I get're completely alone Who else am I with I'm saying like you didn't even meet up with anybody that I didn't text a single person. I know a lot of people in town but I didn't text a single person. I was like, I'm a solo mission to root for the next and win this game. They needed me to be there All right get in, get past security and I start walking. I like to do loops, you know, because every area is the same. It's a circ You got two loops. You got the lower level loop and the upper level loop, right I do a lower level loop J' a mixed fans And like if I do a loop in Madison Square Garden, like imagine me saying hi to everybody wearing a nick jery or aick shirt Like right? it's like you just disregard it But when you're in on the road, I've never been to a mixed game on the road When you're on the road, there's a camaraderie A kinship. There's like a there's like a you there's We're here for the same reason. There's a nod and there's a fist bump and it's always like New Yorkers really don't interact with strangers. It's like stranger danger. We don't really do that. It's just not part of our culture But like On the road Oh, yo, we're all apart. We're all in this together. So I'm giving everybody a fist bump. If you got a good look, I'll give you a big pound. And if you really know what's up, I'm going to give you one, two, three in a row and say Nixson four. And there was an energy before the game. I was like, there's some Nicks fans here And I get to my seat First of all, like The feelield it did any twenty seconds All go aheadhe. I will use the timeouts S Mitch Johnson did not D any point as you're walking through the concourse Does anybody say anything to you Heckling wise or even a boo or anything? Is there any commentary that you are walking through wearing a New York Nicks, Latrelle Spreeweel shirt? Yes. so to be fair, I want to explain what I'm wearing. I'm wearing a black t shirt with Lattrelle Spree whel on it says New York Nicks in the front. There's nothing on the back So it just looks like a black t shirt from the back So there was somebody that was behind me that was like, oh, you know, I like I always say excuse me, I'm very polite. so I like walked front or something I was like,h, man, excuse me He' go, it's all good. He's like unless you're a Ns fan. I turned around and I was just like show my shirt. But everyone's so sweet here. It's not like New York, like people's default setting is just like very, very nice to strangers. Like even though you are a Nick fan and you're here, they're very accepting of that. And I'm also like a very gracious fan like I'm not like, fuck you, you root for the sppurs. Like you're just a human being like everybody else. Like you know, and I'm like, hey, let's let's have a great series. you know, like like my energy is very positive and nice. I'm not like one of those fans that's just like Be a complete asshole. Did I turn into an asshole in the fourth quarter? Yes. But like I started off. my default setting was nice And I get to my seats And there's two there's four nickmans in front of me who are just like regular people. and then there's behind me about three rows up, there's a conglomerate of Nick fans that I would say didn't come in with the same sort of positive basketball loving at. But you but you're thrown in the mix of them. I mean, you're with them as far as it's and listen I don't know are they v what it's like to be a building Oh yeah, all that. but here's what it is. There's a there's a problem And I just want to say this with love to my Sanntoniopurg friends Ghostpers go chance You know the chance Because what happens is is they go, go, spurs, go And then they lay out for like two breaths D d. Go, Spurs, go. So the Nix fandans use that opportunity for a let's go mix So they're starting the game and they're like go, sppurs, go. and Nick fans like, o, you guys are going to stop talking for this the exact amount of time for Let's go Nix to happen. And then we took that and ran with it Oh wow So when you are there and you move up to your seat in the arena Is everybody up there like welcoming their' not nobody up there is There' An act any kind of wayer nice. It is also it is also weird that you're there alone What do you mean? It's just you are mean. People don't typically buy tickets in the middle of sectors. like it was an extenuating circumstance that you would go by yourself to this game You're usually not walking in the middle of a section alone as an opposing fan. That is uncommon. It is an uncommon thing. What are you? Why are you looking at me like that? If I just saw some guy at the Grisies game, like in a Celtics jersey by himself sitting in the middle of a bunch of Grizzies fans. I would think that's weird. Well They got the shirts And I'm in the pink section. First of all, the fiesta shirts are awesome. L you Mna looks so good And everyveryone's wearing the shirts. Everyone's wearing the shirts And these these ladies to my right, they were like u I don't know, I don't think they're teachers, but they work in education for children, which is always a got softs ot for me because I have like a million children and they take care of my kids all day long And I gave her the shirt and she was just like What Seriously? I was like, Yeahah, yeah, I'm like, what am I gonna do with this pink spur shirt like you I'm kind rocked this to the gym. likeike like she was so appreciative I try to give my neighbors some nachos because the nachos they give you like this way too many chips So was trying to like hey do you want something not? No one would accept my food? Like I drugged it. likeike I'mill Cospy or something But everyone was really really sweet. L there's no There's only like two people this work gave me a negative vibe and I've been in Yankee Stadium with a red Red sox hat on And like Everyone has something to say to you in Y Stadio. it's okay. tellell me it was a different culture. All right. now they are going to be getting a new arena, which they'll call the House that Wembeat Bill Um the arena that they play in right now. fan or not a fan Um, it was typical. You know, how could all kinds of the same you've been do a bunch of them U not a lot of space like I I was in the middle of the row So to get from the aisle to my seat. I had to say Sor, it's like ten people And they all have to stand up. This's not a lot of foot room. everybody has to stand up to get in there, which really limits your like bathroom and beer runs. You really gotta be efficient. Right You know what I mean Do you think that it felt like it was the finals? I've never felt anything like it. I've never felt anything like it. Oh, the vibe in that arena. I've totally different than I've never felt anything like it because world is it Let's It feels like every play. Right? That's how it feels. likeike when when I have been like big playoff games in the past Every play feels enormous And that is the difference. And remember how the game started Brunson hits a three Wimby gets a bucket. I think o G hits three. I forget who it was Bridges. There's a lot of point to the first was. Yeah, and then it went dark But like Nickpans I think was nine to two at one point, I want to say or something like that. And it was just like Nick fans were just celebrating. standing up, celebrating And then, um The field goals stopp going in the basket towards the end of the first quarter Okay, so By halftime, it's still fine. It's like a striking striking distance game. I want to say forty nine of fifty five I to say was Yeah, forty eight forty eight fifty five. They're down seven. It's still in striking range When they go down early they come back out from the halftime break. When they go down early and they're down like thirteen. Is your mood changeed completely at that point? like you're like didid my mood change completely? I wanted to leave I wanted to be somewhere else. I was like, this is the worst decision I've ever made. Be they're all standing and cheering and looking at me. You know It's just like Oh yeah, because was a only guy s there. Well, yeah a couple of Nix fans around me, but like I might have been a little vocal towards the second half. You know what I mean? I might have had an adult beverage or two during my loop at halftime. And I got a little vocal. And like, I might have said some things that I regret And when they were up thirteen, I was like, wow, this is just Everyone worse. Everyone is right. The Western Cerence better than the Easter Conference then the Nicks are not ready for the style of play and they just have more firepower and there's nothing you do against Wimby and Cazle can shut down everybody. And I just started to get real like, you know, like the suugar where people say is like intrusive thoughts, I started to have them. I was like I hate it here. I want to go. Maybe I should just go to work The mismatch is brought to you by Bandel. 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I think he's going to go off in game two and still lose That's just me So however you want to make your parlleay Put it together, You can follow me or you can follow your heart Make sure you just visit fandal d. com slash Mismatch to get started. Remember, there have to be twenty one and over in select states and over in DC, Kentucky, Wyoming, first online real money wager only minimum five dollar wager required for seven consecutive days, bonus issued as non withdrawable bonus bets, which expires seven days after a receipt. Gambing problem? callall one hundred gambler or call one. eighty eight, seventy nine, sevenenty seven, seven seven or visit CC PG d. org slash chat Conn as the Kicks close the gap and then overtake the lead You have been I will say, you come by this honest. You've told me since last year Every time the Nicks are on you'll be teextab me. you'll say We've got a We got a guy like if don't get in a gutter war, donon't get in some kind of close game with us becausecause if you want to get in this close game Big B Brunson is He's wearing a Nick jersey. We've got a guy. We've got a guy As that is unfolding and I know your confidence has to be building because I know you and I know the way you like you are one of those that believes like This is close. We got this. Like he's going to take care of this. If it's close, it's not close. We've got to go So when it got close, Then are you at that point you got your chest out and you're like, okay, I know what I know the way this goes. So first of all, I'm really glad you asked this question because this is one of my biggest takeaways from the game that no one has spoken about Runson missed a ton of shots he normally makes in the fourth quarter Like everyone's looking at those two at the end. the three that he gets off the the tapout and that that one he gets, I think it's the cell when he does like the upbake and lean through Everyone's you're to see that on your algorithm over and over and over again. What you're not going to see is wide open thirteen footer misted wide open seventeen footer missed. like he missed some huge shots between like minute four and minute two in the fourth quarter, which I honestly like it really shook my confidence because there's two n Nickmanss in front of me love these guys, right? I think it's a father' son I wanted to say, but I didn't ask whatever. And like when we were down that much, I was like, just stay. in Reachable distance, just keep it to eight, keep it to seven. We've got Mariano. We've got a closer. I'm tapping my right arm. I'm like, we've got a closer We've got the guy. just keep it close and our guy will help. And I'm telling you, man went log it, but he missed some easy shots right around four minutes left, three minutes left where I was like, o oh I don' this is not what I thought. This is not what I thought. This is not what I was talking about. You're never going to see that on ESPN shows or anything or no one's even talking about these shots. He missed some wide open looks that he always hits because this is interesting because those are a little earlier becausees even if Because let's just say there's like a bleacher report suuper cut and it'll be like End of Nick Spurs was a movie like they will they will have like the Wemby turnover. They're the Fx miss nine footer and they're going to have the Bruntson makes, but it doesn't start until after after you're talking three wide all right shots. I was sitting there I'm standing up. I'm standing up but he misses it and then I just sit down in my chair and my shoulders are slumped and I'm not screaming at anybody. I'm not even calling Weemby a bitch. I'm just I'm sitting there just being like God, man, like we're about to lose this game Aur guy not being a guy guy was a guy So you know how I told you that about And I don't know F five years ago. I took the kids up to New York and Shohy Aani and Mike Trout were in town with the Angels and I went to the Yankees game And one of the things that stood out when I was there at the game was I looked around Like you'd see a random Derek cheeter, maybe some like, you know, hippie guy would have like a Goose Gssage throwback. There was a couple guys with like a, you know, Lke Garrick throwback or something, but ninety five percent of the audience had either a judge jersey or shirt jersey on. And I was like ninety nine. This is insane everyverybody in this crowd has the same damn thing on. Is it like that Has Wemby just The whole arena Just Wemby gear I did not see I saw a couple of Dunkins. I didn't see another current spur Sersey or jersey I didn't see No castle, no harbor, no. I'm sure they were there. I mean, there's twenty thousand people there. so I'm sure they're there. Oh yeah It's all number ones. It's all number ones. Well, and then there's the old guy that's got the Sean Ellias. Yeah. I mean, yeah, but it's all number ones like Even I went to like a wing spot to get food. first of all, like Bro Ordering food and getting the food here is a completely different experience than New York It's honest. It's like, how so Jamaica here? It's like I ordered five wings at a wing in place. and I was like, you all you do is make wings. It says wings on the sign outside. I ordered five wings. Why are they coming twenty five minutes later? Like, it's insane And was I was eating those before I got my Uber to the game. And it was just like, you c there's wings. You're so impatient. It's like just It's like when I was at the bagel shop that you sent me to and the guy behind me, like I'm literally standing in line and the person has moved up But I'm like looking at my phone and the guysy look good d out of the way. Thats what' K with. I gott to go see a game. This is like a fifteen I've literally wasted fifteen seconds of your life. Like there's a let me also tell you. There's a gentleman behind me. He's like I want to call it Yeah know It's like five o'clock And so he's behind me to my right. And he's a serious Burs fan and he's an older gentleman. I wantm going to say like early sixties bald head U I'm guessing ex military And he was not happy with our shenanigans at all But he was a ball knowower. You know what I mean And there's a moment that I need to describe from being in the building Watching Jayen Brunson Go to the tunnel I think it was end of the first or start of the second. I don't remember exactly when it was watching him go to the tunnel It was just like, oh, there' That's the series. That's everything All of this, eleven straight games Greays's run in history of the NBA. All over. right now the first half ofight game Game one. And I spent eight hundred and eighty dollars to sit here and watch this man go to the tunnel And we got God bless it. We got Jose Alforado in there. I'm just like But I remembered last year in the his minutes were so good let's talkop about that down in a second But last year in the Piston series L. He didn't just twist his ankle, like his ankle touched the ground And he went to the tunnel and came back and put twenty on him in the second half. And I looked at that guy because me and him were talking a little bit. It's a very friendly environment, but like he definitely like The things that he said and the things that he thought were two different narratives, you know what I mean He was being nice to me, but he hated me, but he's being nice because he's Texans. And he was like I was like, man, he does this. L he just goes to the tunnel and you think he's never coming out and he comes back and he just tears up the second half And while he was doing it, while he was like in Brunson mode in that last minute at him, he looked at me and he shook his head like You know fucker Yeah, yeah He hated He hated that you were right about that. Yeah, he o he he he's talking about me today. He hates me right now He's talking to his wife and like, I hate that guy. He's like, I think he and I swear he looked familiar. I think he was on the ESPN or I don't know where I knew him from. But this guy guy to recognized in the section that took a picture so that everybody else like once one person takes a picture of you Everybody else starts asking me like, why did he take picture of you? And I' just like,h, don't wor about The teachers don't watch GSP, and they're not Ge Jacobbe fans. The teachers are like, whatever Just a Nicks fan in the middle of the spur section at the NBA finals. something experience. He hits the shot The dagger was really thirty eight seconds. I mean, there was a couple of like big moments. obbviously the Foxmiss, the Wby turnover The Wey turnover was crazy. It was crazy. and then the Come the cell And then the rainbow shot that drops in. L that's the signature moment. of game one, right where it ends there point you've got to just it's like absolute euphoria But weirdly You're in the midst of absolute devastation, right Like daddy there's a cra fans there. So the thing is is like it wasn't like in the Philly games, you had this feeling there was like forty percent Nix fans because like Lving the city had giing up on the team because of down threez This is it's a vocal minority. like I'd say five percent, like one out of every twenty people are Nicks fans, but when was going good for the spurs Youd just want to leave the building. And it was going good for the Kicks You just want to make eye contact with every single person around you Seriously, I was just looking around the sections said you want to make I just want have direct eye contact with all of you. and not I'm not saying anything mean, I'm not being rude. I just want you to meet eyes with me and know that my team is better right now All right game end O I mean they probably can't get out to the exits fast enough and the Nicks fans probably want to hang around. They left they le even early de. They were leaving like after that Bunzson shot, they were leaving. like it's a six point game, but like thirty five seconds left. There I trying to know that's beat traffic time. I'm out too. So I've got a gig. I'm working on Max and Rich's show Oh yeah. they have a they have a show so which is I can't drink that much. You know we got work. So I've got to get out. And my Uber driver on the way in was like, don't get an Uber from the stadium, walk to the gas station So again, like I'm supposed to be producing a show. I walked to the gas station, which is like a don't know, half mile And the Uber I ordered was to a different gas station. And order and Rich Paul is not letting you in his limo. I didn't even ask. I don't ask for favors. I didn't even ask. You I put you So I'm talking my friends like, whyy don't you just ask Rich for a ticket? I'm like, I'm not asking Rich Paul for a ticket to a finals game. I don't ask favors of people. If I ask you a favor, I mean it I mean it You know what I mean? How many favitors have I ever asked of you, Chris Vernon? None Come I can't remember one. None. Yeah. I don't ask people for favors. I'm not asking Rich Paul for a final ticket.ike I'll ask you a favor when I'm behind bars. That's when I ask for favors Which is also a possibility. It was a possibility lastight It was a possibility last night, probably. There was a guy that did look at me like he wanted to fight. I was like, bro, notight. So you're at the wrong gas station And then and then I get to the Surse facilities. the Spurse people were really sweet to us and We had Antonio Daniels, who doeses Yeah He does the Pelkins broadcast. He's great. And he's also on NBA radio. Yeah. He's great. Andobs. He's good, man. He's good And that we had Gary Payton on And they came through There' a little bit of a late night But you know, ye, I guess so. So you didn't really get to soak it in at the arena because at that point, you're worried about getting to the next place. You got to be somewh. I got a job. you know what I mean? Yeah like right But there was say let me say obviously hanging around It's just a different energy when you're on the road. Like I've literally never been to a road Ns game The Spurs fans want to leave as soon as possible and beat the track Nix fans are like, Ohh, until they turn the lights off and police tell me to leave, I'm going to be right here chanting Nixon four It it's because with all the videos you see It's not because there's so many Kicks fans, it's because they stayed. You know what I mean It's like There's twenty thousand people in there and nineteen thousand of them left But there's a thousand left Obviously, everybody in the free world has parsed through this game already, but we've got to give our thoughts on this Brunson is the story of Brunson takeover when the game was tight at the end coming through in a massive way, Captain Cutch, Brunson Burner, whatever you want to call him. It was cool having Mike Breen be on the call for it. There's no way around because he's done it so many times I will tell you that T people dominated my group text that me has You know obviously, it was all broads said at the end. throughroughout the game The two players that dominated My group texts with my friends that don't have a particular rooting interest in this. We're just watching this as NBA observers towns and hearts and First St with towns. We have start with towns. Well, especially because U He's a Western conference guy for a long time. We, you know, we used to watch back in the day, you know, these grizzlies big guys like it we like Towns was like the finesse all star and then he would come to town and like Jack Randolph and Marcus all would just body bag him. you know what I mean? And like and that was when he was young. And then older U obviously played them in a playoff series He was fine, but it wasn't somebody that we looked at as the kind of guy that's buuilt for it. notot the guy that you would typically say, that's the guy I want in my fox hole when it matters most. And now fininal stage. number one Guarding of Wemby And number two the exposing It seemed over and over again any time they could pull him away from the basket. He became like This dominating figure beating Wemby off the dribble and go into the basket like towns was So good in this game and Best version Cal toowns that you could have ever imagined on the road in game one Um Also I know that you uh You may have seen the postgame thing today that he did where he's talking to Shack And did you see this man a chance and he's talking about I don't know what it was Calm. just came over me and he starts talking about his mom, I'm getting chills thinking about it. Yeah. And he's like it felt like I was like going to an AAU game. Like I was just going to have F I'm out here, I'm having fun. I'm living in the moment. and like all that pressure and all that stuff that goes along with the NBA finals. I just donon't know what it was But just like all day, I didn't feele that And I was like Damn the story touse me chose to the story to back up what I watched, which is a guy so ready for that moment. Not a shrinking viollet Portion. It was I have so many thoughts on this. let me try to be concise. It was kind of the opposite of Chet felt more like Towns had a couple of possessions And he was like, he bleeds just like I bleed. He's not an actual alien He's kind of slow footed And if I get him out here, there was a he did like a Draymond Green like fake DHO went right past Wimby and right to the basket. And the thing about Wimby is you can get past him, but he'll block your shot from behind. It's one of his strategies actually. L it's like, o, oh you You dribbled past me a lot of times its smaller people. you dribbled past me. I'll just block your shot from behind. But house is finishing on them. And I just feel like early He got confidence. He was like He's just a man He's just a person and and they put I want to give a shout to Mike Brown and the the coaching staff. I feel like they did a really good job on both ends. Putting Weemby in uncomfortable positions How many turnaround fourteen footers with a hand in his face as he shot Like, he wasn't just catching loobs. likeike he wasn't I don't even did Did he shoot a three Yeah. Oh he shot tons Look no no, no, no, no, no, it's all about towns Oh to Town shot too I think hit one, right D he won? No, no, no, he was over two But Wby Wimby shot nine towns is I've said this before in the show When he goes to the basket, it's ugly a sin. It's the it's so gross He just kind of lumbers his way there with long strides and it puts his body against your body and it's just so gross But this one play I don't know if you remember this because this is an inconsequential possession that no one will talk about into a microphone, I'm about to do it I think it was the end of the first quarter and he'd already scored on Wimby He's he's finished like around the Rima Wimby Maybe it was a putback or something. and he had confidence And he went down the middle of the lane and jumped in the air, bumped into his chest and tried this like Underhand scoop thing early in the game and I was just like, he's like freestyling, trying weird shit. and I was like like that. It didn't go in, but I like that you're have the confidence do a saucy layup on Wenen because I just watched the Thunder series where there's not even testing it Like there's not testing him at all And I feelelt like the Nicks were like We're going to try stuff. We're going to see what works against you, what doesn't, but we're going to Test you We're We're going make you do something, makeake you stop us, make you change us, makeake you adjust to us instead of like, if Wembi's there I're not going shoot And I feel like across the roster they were like that end I thought even more importantly The job he did on defense. Oh. anyybody in the free world talked about Was it OG and and Oi because I mean, the stats are everywhere. Nobody does a better job than OG and Oi. The analytics right at a world filled with analytics and basic decisions based upon the numbers like and they've obviously still got that to go to if they want to But I couldn't believe that that's what they came out with. Towns. It wasn't like towns held up Towns was unbelievable him. You know He didn't foul. Like all right just I thought the defense was amazing and I mean, again, like As good as the defense was If I'm a Surs fan or if I'm a Surs coach or if I have womimenyama's ear like, That's not it, Victor. Well how is he twenty six feet away from the basket? You got to get basket man. you're seven foot six, man. get to the basket. I don't care if you miss. I don't care if you get an offensive foul. I don't care what happens, but like we need you rolling to the basket hard and getting your paint and dunking the basketball. I don't care if you get an offensive fal. I don't care if you miss. like the idea that his shot chart looked the way it did was stupid. Well the other other thing is how can he Can we get him the ball closer to the basket? Like its the free line free throw line at the most. Why is he always ot the ball above the three point line. Like he's seven nine. What are we doing If he shoots a three. The other team celebrates. That should tell you something Yes. It should tell you something. Like if it's C Anthony Towns You don't want to leave him open for a three because he'll knock come down forty percent of time. Well and that that is the thing where as we talk about like, you know, and we'll get into adjustments that are going to be made That is not going to happen again. No. I even saw it today in the, you know, they have to do the off day press conferences or whatever. and a girl asked him said Greg Papovic has been talking to you. throughout the season Have you talked to P you know, basically since what happened in game one And he said, I have not talked to him. But he texts me And she says stopp being a bitch Great great great reporting Great reporting. She says Can you tell us what those texts said? Jes, please. And he said Dead, I've been bad and I'm better than this It's like a dad feel like I'm I'm notad. I'm disappoint. I'm not mad at you Victor. I'm just disappointed. said he said he said, he said, I'm not gonna tell you everything. He goes, but the subject is basically you've been bad and you are better than this And he's like and I will be No, I agree. It will be better than this And the thing about him in that Thunder series it's so like hit or miss. It's so coin flippy. like Game one game four game six and seven. he was good. Oh he said he even said after the game basasically We go as I go and when when I've been good, we've been good. And when I've been bad, we've been bad and I was bad. And I I do respect that like one thing I found interesting. you saw the Jeremy Sohan quote leadeading into game one, wearing him out He's like, he's tall. He's like it's just like sometimes it's so simple. like I watch I rewatched the game today. I look at all the stats and the analytics and the numbers, but sometimes it's just like it's just right in front of you. He's like, yeah, he's really tall So it's hard for him to move because he's so big, it takes a lot of like energy. And it's like science. He's like it takes a lot of energy for him to move. So if you make him move, then he gets tired And I heard that and I was like Why am I on the second spectrum? You I mean? I'm like that is the answer right there. It's like those are those old school basketball coaches that would always get mad about the big guys standing you know, at the three point line and they would always say everyverybody's the same size at the three point line Yeah, ye get your hand in de bain. likeike what that's your advantage. Y advantage of being sevven five does not show up twenty six feet from the basket It shows up Teen and down We are going pivot to game two a little bit We over the place we need we need to celebrate more players We are celebrates Wh be Oh my go. I mean, that's the other guy I told you was in the text like I know they're called ultimate glue guy the whole thing. Do see the the video resurface today and it's going around everywhere. of when they had him miced up two years ago And he's under the basket and he tells Mitchell Robinson He goes up to him. this is why he's miced up. You gott to find this video if you haven't seen it. He walks up to him. it's in the middle of the game He goes You You get regular rebound I get rebounds that break teams And I'm like T And I heard Brian Winhorse say that I'm absolutely stealing Hh And not from him. he was relaying what Eric Bolstra once told him out. Josh Hart, who was on a team USA team He said Josh Hart does not get fifty fifty rebound. He doesn't get fifty fifty balls He gets thirty seventy balls. And I was like, oh, that is so good. That is so good. I'm stillaling that. Anbody gets fifty thirty seventy ball. Yeah. He gets thirty seventy balls And does it over and over and he breaks you by doing it I think it's also worth mentioning Joseel Barado Like Oh yeah ar like The Bronzees in the tunnel Alvarado comes in. three and remember Champagne is from Brooklyn too. they're both from Brooklyn and Jose playay Ball in Queens They know each other. It's like when you're an elite athlete at that level the same age group, like you know each other in the city And he was talking shit to Champagne. And we all saw it. You can see it. You don't need to be on the broadcast. I could see it from the two hundred eight section And then the next possession He leaves champagne in the corner. just he just he just kind of like put his hand in the cookie jar is a little too much. Yeah. Champani hits a three on him and then Champanni is roasting him on the way back And I was just like, this is the finals. And these two have known each other since they're fourteen and twelve years old. like It was just awesome to be there L that level of competition and trading blows and like, you know, people you've known for a long time that you've played like Lally on cononcrete against. and now you're like they're the Larry O'Brien trophies on the hardwood and you're trading threes. It was just like, it's one of those things like Yeah, I'm aick fan but like I love basketball more than the Kicks. That was awesome. It was awesome because look and the reason we're highlighting towns the hustle plays by heart Alvarado getting his opportunity and the moment not being too big is because you watch and that is one of the things that you have to look out for is you go who is the moment too big for right? Who is not playing up to their standard because of this and it's like Alberarado and shamit were there for it as guys off the bench. This we need to talk about this. Dyan Harper has no idea it's the MEA finals It seemed like he was the only spur in the first five minutes of the game that was playing basketball Like he knows hey he came in the game bro. He knows it is now. You see what happened today We've got a youthful mistake We'reving Oh you didnn't see this. Oh it was everywhere I went to the riverwalk to that. I've got to believe he accidentally. What he doing? But on his TikTok account He reposted this video that this guy made of it basically says What? I is his It's a video And it says u It's goofing on Daron Fox Oh my god And h re He reposted it And he reposted and it's Der it's a guy made this whole video of Daron Fox saying he was honoring playoff James Harden with his statline and then has the statline at the bottom and then like Daron Fox dancing in it. I mean, it's a catastrophe And when you're Dar Fox Dylan Harper's name pop up on your phone And you're just like And you answer it and then Dylan's like, hey, man How are you doing today? He's like, Oh tough game last. I checked against this. This is one of those That was so I checked against it I went and did likeent was like Cent I was like ye. Brick Center Sports Center. And you don't know if he's going to say it was an accident or obviously lookook, you can't Yeah. he's probably no way you've doing that up perf Just fat thumbs. Yeah. There's no way you were doing. at itough but you're looking at it. Yeah. Like you might not have meant to read TikTok it or whatever we can say, but like You saw it and you watched it And don't you believe deep down Dylan Harper thinks he should be getting D Fox' minutes for very good reason. Dyan Harper If I just watched that game not knowing that he was a rookie, I would be like, Ohh, that's the veteran on the team that's a calming presence that's ready for the moment Well, because here's what I'm going to say to Kobe. again, sometimes these games can be by B enough margins that it's not like Um, you know, give the ball to your star, go get me a bucket, right? One of the things that I was saying to my buddies last night when we were texting about it, I said This is not only is this advantage because you've got Brunon and he's like gene whatever you want to call personified Its Also, it is very hard. your best player in an NBA where it's throw the ball to him. go get me a bucket. The ball is typically in the guysy's hands, right? And even if you go back Even if you go back through finals MVPs of the past, right Kevin Garnett might have been the best player. Paul Pierce is the finals MVP and Shack might have been the best player, but Kbe Bryant was and Ci Leonard was and you could go on and on, right? The ball is in their hands Right? And they're the ones use utilizing screens and coming off screens and going and get into their signature move, whatever. That's hard for big guys. Big guys typically are at their best when someone is delivering them the ball, not when they are initiating it and that's where the fox being crap thing was the killer of all killers because he himself has been an amazing clutch player in the past. He was NBA clutch player of the year the first like to be no mistake right He was the very first one. I th like think about Wimby's big game four, right What do you have memories from that? It wasn't like game one where he got his own shots. My memories of game four is Castle just throwing the ball up and Wimby Dunking it. And then again, Castle, Bll Fox just getting getting downhill. drawing defenders and just throwing the ball up like blindly throwing it up because his, you know, his arms or his arms. And like, That is not the same Bronton going off a screen, getting the magic he wants. No. and then we all know what's going to happen Well they just all play off of that. It is hard to initiate offense as a big Unless you' Crals tos This cent Cowns is great. I would also like Berno, like Three years ago, two years ago, last year The story of the Kicks was They have a good starting five, but there's two guys in their starting five. that you could hunt on defense That was the story forty percent of their starting five. bad defenders. That is now down to like I don't know Maybe Brunson. But like Carlington Towns is no longer The guy that you that you're like, hey, come, o, Towns is covering you, come set a pick. We're going to cook them. It's not happenic anymore It all right is this is the biggest transformation that I've seen midseason because first half of the regular season, I would watch every nick game and constantly Josh Hartb be looking at towns and being like What are you doing? That's your defensive assignment. They' got a layp. It was like twice a game And now it just doesn't happen anymore. He stepped up like this a couple of years ago and it's interesting because they also had Really good athletic defensive wings in Minnesota againgst Yolkage. He stepped up like this then too. you know, when he had he was flanked by Edwards McDaniels and that crew and now he before that he got absolutely eaten alive like Clint Capella on the roockets. Do you remember that right series? Yeah was like Clint Calla. I would be like, who's a better basketall player Clint Cpeella or Cllinson Tounds like Capeella not even close Honestly You remember that series? It was like What close? The one and the big thing is like what I was talking about earlier to me It was a Rooney He's never been a guy that you'd say I want to go to war with him. That' what he's is That's what he's begun. is. Yes, Fossil guys No one would ever say the Carlos downowns was ever in life fourour months ago. No one would say it Yeah I remember we did a show like midseason. And you're like, you feel good about the next day on like you know like a sevename win series. Like,h, what are yourcns? I'm like Carl Anthony Town So good, so good, so good New summer arrivals are at Nordstrom Rack stores now. Get ready to save big with up to sixty percent off brands like Rag and Bone, Levi's, Adidas, and Free People. Join the Nordy Club to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more. Plus, buy online and pick up at your favorite rack store for free. Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast instead of Doom sccrolling? Smart move. Another smart move gettingetting help from one of state Farm's nineteen thousand local agents when you choose to bundle home and Auto Bundling Just another way to save with the personal price plan. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state So we've obiously had the love fest for the neck Let me just play Devil's advocate here You needed every bit of that Brunson run at the end And he was great. and the towns that we're talking about it Josh Hart getting fifteen rebads like OG didn't turn up really until the second half, but then they get it going you know, later Um Max and Wemby were a combined eleven for thirty or nine for thirty four That's not a good percentage I mean That's the guys that we're talking about like they need. The other ones are guys that play off of those two right. But Bocks and Wemby were nine for thirty four I the game hurt I think it's fair. I think Fox had a good game tov, but he's hurt. like, he's hur playing hurt and God bless them. but like he's hurt. It's the Wimby part. like I'm One of my concerns is a Nick fan. is When we poorly mentally I feel like he can be coached into a successful game He was just settling for mid range jumpers. everything was contested. Nothing was aggressive. How times you go to line? You the box over there? How many times you go to line U He went to the line thirteen times. That's pretty good actually thirirteen But like I don't know. I just feel like I feel like Wby played poorly and there's a lot of room for him to be better And he had twenty six and twelve I know But did towns had what eighteen and nine or something eighteen to twelve If if you were say who had a better game Carly Towns or Wby it's not even close The always tell the story. And that's because of the defense That's because of the defense, right? An offense. likeike Cars Towns would just go by, Wemby L look slow on his feet You know what's interesting? The thirdly so we talked about hard having fifteen rebounds, toowns having twelve rebounds. Who do you think was the third leading rebounder for the Kicks? for the Nicks's Elvarado Mitchell Roberintsson. we have three sixix rebounds in thirteen minutes. Well, two of those were putbacks that he missed, right? Yeah He looked like he was going to be able to play though Like he looked He looks like he's to be able to play Yeah he's going to be out there He's going to be able to be out there, right? He's going to be out there. and Roser actually said my producer here sent me a thing earlier today. He said, if you want to use this for the mismatch when Kat and Mitchell Roberintson both play three ando versus the sppurs this year. Wemby has shot thirty eight percent ty three percent from three Mitchell Robinson did not play in the in the one game they lost to the, which is the one hundred and thirty four one and thirty two game They have And in those games, the Kicks have seventy seven second chance points in the three wins which is almost twenty six points againame Wow That's something. but like those games were so goofy because I looked I looked over them before I know. I know not games. like it's just like There's only so much you can do about that. I'm just saying that's not a one game sample size of Wy being cped versus Towns and Robinson Yeah I mean three game sample size. is f thirty eight percent is thirty eight percent, Jagobi. We're sitting here being like, well, well, obviously Weby's going to guard Josh Hart and OG and Oi's going to guard Weby and it's like The coaches just like, no That's actually not what's gonna guard each other And I loved it. I'm just I'm just You know, I I want to applaud Carsty Towns for the great game that he had and I look forward to him repeating it. I am concerned about him fling if If he's going to be Wemb's matchup and Wemby's going be more aggressive in games too y's going to look at the tape he's going to know he did wrong. Pop is going to text him back. and say mean things. and he's going to be much more aggressive and I'm concerned about towns being a good boy on defense because he has a tendency to get those fouls. And then you look at Mitch and if Mitch can't really be himself. They might even hack a miche. And then you look at like Hock porty and then yeah, I don't know. Yeah yeah. Well on look They got the one We're not playing the house money Nixon four bro. Nixon four. I said Nixon four before the series. and I mean it You do not think they're going to sweep them. They're going to sweep. They' You do not. You're just chanting what they're chanting in the streets of New York You really believed that. I got an update. I got an update You've been to my local bar. You know my local spot. You know Vinnie, right Oh yeah There's a guy there that works at Smmer Stage. Summer Stage is this huge stage they build for the summer in the middle of Central Park. They have a lot of concerts and venues and stuff there. And he's like a stage handand. I don't know what he does. shouts to him. Rob Mahoney, not Rob Mahoney from the Ringer D. Right. You told me about him. Let me reado this text that I wass got from. This is in Central Park Teser Park Wait to see this text Rob, it's Jakobbe. You you guys w doing a watchh party tomorrow night? I went to the game in Santonio last night. It was bonkers He writes back. Listen to this Yes, we are G to be so crazy last night was nuts You're more than welcome But no VIP at the moment He's like, yeah, you come to the watch party but you're cil Why? I can't even get into that I got a guy and I can't even get a No VIP at the moment the moment Yeah like you could just show up like a regular guy. I a regular guy. I love being a regular guy. I was in c with my kids Yeah I was gonna to be honest go with my kids be like I host food news and the mismatch Do you know who I am And to be. I another for you. He's like you're welcome to come to Central Park. It's a public park Thanks so much Tell him your cohost does masters updates. Oh, I will. I'll send him a link 'll se him a link He's like they'll be like, he's welcome to come BIP, but not you 'cause when I talk to him at the bar, he's like, Ohh yeah, d you can siting next to me. You' get anything you want. L yeah, we got you. Yeah. that's that's The watch parties are going crazy.' telling you You'reong That's dong.. So he slow plays like sun what it wass called sun sunrises, those like ice tea things, what it' called. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Sn cliffs, and they're like the thef sun. Yeah, but but they don't have bubbles Yeah He's slow plays though, so he's not he didn't talk crazy Well, you also probably just didn't want to hurt your feelings or make you feel special. No, he hurt my feelings. He hurt my feelings. Now now he did, for sure.. But it's also like hey, don't say one thing and then be something else later So now what are you going to do I'm gonna to wash it at my house to my kids. I'm My kids don't care at all. My kids don't care at all. I land at seven at JFK. so it was going take me about an hour fifteen to get to get to the house and be tired. I don't fly the same way I used to What do you expect from game two? Let's talk. Let's finish up I expect the spurs to come back and playay with force. you'll get a better fox, a better Wemby You'll get more Dylan Harper adjustments will be made and we're going to be back to is there, you know, look what the problems the Nicks have will be the subject of our next, you know podcast Yeah. I guess by the time we do it again, we'll have had the benefit of another game before that. but Yeah. I mean, that's the way this goes. I never want to overreact greatly to what happened in the first game. That was a rememember the Western confonference? It was like the was going for finals A everyating way like you After every game, I was so resolute that whoever won that game was going to steamroll the rest of the series Yeah every look. Yeah I Just hear me out desespite your Nickix and for N important Everywhere I went before game seven. People were asking me Th happen in game seven. And I'm like, you know, I do like you could just listen to the podcast I do, but Okay Sounds like work. mean. L I actually listen to Jacooby then so I'm not doing that. Yeah. H here's and this was my opinion for the game seven between Spurs and Oklahoma By the time it got there. I was at the point where it was like Rro Game one Game three Game six Weny was fantastic. Game one game four game six. whatever four six. Yeah Wendy was fantastic and they won So it's literally to me a question. Game seven, hold things on the line Do I think Viictor Wombodama will be awesome? If the answer is yes, then I like them I You know how you were saying? like sometimes this is simple. Like ye I actually think that there's a reason why when he was on the podium, it made all the sense in the world when he is saying like Kind of goes as I go and I'm not good you mean, that wasn't good enough And it will be good enough, but that clearly was not. Good enough and I will be better And I believe that Like I do believe like that he's not going to be that was that's crazy for a friggin Guy six for twenty one. He's night foot F no counterpint Cterp. All right, counterpoint Um What? you weren't excited to play in game one of the MBA finals? Like He was excited. you need need you need a little pep talk before game two. Thats what you need? You need to make adjustments. Like it's like, bro, you're not ready for game one, then you're not going to be ready for game two Here's the here's what I'm telling you. It's not about being ready That old quote that we lauded Gilgis Alexander. we were like, Ohh, yeah, that's a bar. That's cool. where he said I know they I have no I know the answers as the questions I do not think that Victor Wim Midyama clelearly is not at the point in his career where You can't throw something at him that makes his life hell When you become the fully formed superstar You've you've seen it all. And then you and you know the answers to The test and you know what to do and what is the right basketball play. He is going through this in the most high leverage situation possible for the first time. He has never played in a playoff game until this year. Jacobbe and he's going up against the best teams that are super well coached And go The trick is can't let the same thing happen to you twice. And what we did see in the Oklahoma City series is he did not let the same thing happen to him. twice He did figure it out. likeike you know what I mean? You get to do that to him ame doing game three. I'm not saying you't him in. I'm not saying you can't present him different problems Not saying you can't present him different problems But what I am saying is he is one of those players that you could throw him off And but now like you better believe they are going to be sccouring through that and he's going to be scouring through that to figure out. how does that not happen again? Why have I got the ball twenty six feet away from the basket? This is Yes. I think that there if if you are a sppurs coach, Spurs fan or spurs player, there's some very obvious adjustments that need to be made, especially when it comes to Victor Wenen Yam. I will say that. I will also say this is Ferno. Do you know what he has now Battle scars I guess guess. No, that's a scar. going number game one Oh home. Game one at home and watching Jalen Brunson just have his way in the last ninety seconds and win the game by ten And then you have the key turnover, Th are battles scars Well and look this guy had his heart ripped out of his chest and refused to talk to the media in game five Yeah. awful in game five. whichich was the pivotal game five And he responded with game six and game seven So I know you may not like him, but I will be I will be stunned if he doesn't respond. I'll be stuned what I just watch against Oklahoma City I'll be shocked if he's not awesome in game two All right, we've g over an hour, so we're about to wrap. and I do want to give you the river walk update I don't know what it's like anymore. I haven't been in so many years, but I quite liked it when I went there. I enjoyed it as well Yeah was I like because I'm staying in the sticks I'm like by the's right facility So I'm like twenty minutes outside of town. I was like, I I had like a hour window. I was like, I have to go see the riverwalk. Like it's the only thing in San Antonio. I'm not gonna to go see the Alamo. I don't like looking at things I like doing things. All I like likeike I went to Washington DC. I was like, there's the Washington Monument. I wass like, that looks just like the pictures. There's A Lincoln statue. That looks just like the pictures. I don't like looking at things unless it's like like a Grand Canyon So let me take I'm out. I like thirty seconds Dude, let me tell it' crazy When I was there I went and I was like, I needed to get something at Wal Greens. I can't remember what it was. Maybe I needed some toothpaste advil Yeah probably probably that. And so then I was like, so I walked down the street from my hotel past the river walk up to like this walgace and like it's just like You know, it's like a town square type of thing, right? And I look across the way And there's like a little sign And it says, Alamo And I was like, what the hell? R at the Walgream? No, it's just like Bro if you go It's nothing like what I thought It's just It in up on downtown. like you're just walking by and then you're like, what That's the alamo. And of course, I was like, I want to go try to find PeeewWe's bike, you know, in the basement. That'ss My reference point for the Alamo my God is is Peeewe Herman? Yeah, his bike Do know what I mean And I was like I got to go and I like walk through it. It took me like two seconds It's literally like in the middle of downtown and you're just you can just be walking down the street and and then it'll say Yeah Yeah and then there's like that thing that you see like the Yeah, of course the outside structure front of it. Yeah. Yeah, but it's not big And it love I'd love to hear you explaining Pewe Herman to your fifteen year old son The Rver Walk was lovely. Shot to San Antonio, Everyone's lovely. I had an Uber silver Silverado truck and had an Uber Purple Dodge charger. That's all you need to know about San Antonio That is amazing. A purple dodge charger, dude. And you had five chicken wings that took twenty five minutes T twenty fots take the over on twenty fiveot I I' miss the first quarter ' of these chicken wes. Were they at least good? They were good to. I likek them Very good. All right Nick Spurs Game, my app two is going to be on Friday night. I' certain g three We will reconvene after game three As long as you're not in Central Park in VIP. D I'm not. I already got the Robahoney shutting me down.'m h up the other Rob Mahoney see if he's gotten in You don't want to be outside for this. I mean if if they win game three But I like to fired. I like to be outside. All You don't need to be. You're too old for that. No. I saw those kids on top of like faking ambulances And I was like, o All right It's guys to do it for another episode of Missmatch. Thanks to Jeff as always and Jacobia, I hope you get free. 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