Dream Pub Companions and Names

I'm Robbie Knox and I'm the landlord of The Moon Underwater, a mystical place where guests create their dream pub. Hello and welcome. As you may have already heard, the moon underwater is closing its doors for now. We're serving our final pint. Giving the barstools one last clean and finally taking away those stale bar nuts that probably haven't been touched in years. I don't I don't think we need to clean the barstools if we're closing. Well no one mind, it's fine. Well you've got to keep things I think clean when you put them in storage. Okay. Yeah, all right. This has been the place where special guests have designed and drank in their dream pubs, and boy have we made some fantastic pubs over the years. Both the original landlord John Robbins and myself have presided over hundreds of weird and wonderful watering holes complete with everything you could ever think of finding in a pub. Drink some more out of the world? Pub Companions from throughout history. And enough rules to write comprehensive pub guide. So, to mark this final episode, we're gonna do things a bit differently, and my trusty regular Dan and I are gonna build our very own dream pubs. Now, Dan, I have actually. in the interest of full disclosure, designed my own dream pub before when John was the landlord, I came on as a guest. And go back and listen to that. It's a great ep epic. Yeah. So Uh so I will make a different part, but based on the knowledge I've acquired here, I think, and the recent recent changes, but not quite as high concept as my original one. Yes. And as we get older our tastes change. Yeah, my taste is still the same. Yeah. And very I've not done any character development in my life. Looking actually, it's completely the same as it was about twenty. Exactly the same, yes. Well, Dan. How how do you feel about your pub? You've obviously thought this through. I have, and obviously it's been in the back of my mind since we started to do it and was well and when I was listening to when John did it as well, you always sort of think, Oh, what would I choose? and that kind of thing and and people have had amazing ideas. Yep. I I think Some pubs we've had sound much better than any pub I could invent. Definitely. People I've been sitting there going, This sounds like the best part I've ever heard of. As we've gone through. So Uh, it's just gonna have to be personal. stuff, you know. So yeah, that's what that's what I've gone for. Can you think of a pub in real life that's similar to the your dream pub? Oh God. I I just think my Hub is is a Really traditional. Low ceiling. Comfy chairs. really co I'm I'm picturing it much more in the winter. Maybe it is 'cause it's winter. But I'm picturing it much more in the winter when you walk in and it's really warm. And welcoming and there's a nice buzz. And you get a nice pint and sit down, have a really nice chat. It's that sort of pub. It's nothing fancy about it. I don't think there's really much food or anything. It's just one of those really not it could be in the country, but it could also be in the city as well. Maybe in the suburbs. Yeah. Is your desire to have a nice warm pub because you've moved into a new place and haven't worked out how the heating works been freezing for the last week. It's probably that, yeah. It's probably that. So you just need to go to more park. I just keep thinking about warmth. Yeah. That's fair enough. Right, Dad, well let's go let's just crack on and design these dream pubs. Why don't you start with draft? Why have you picked Timothy Taylor's Landlord? I haven't picked Timothy Taylor's Landlord. I've picked um Feeks and X B. Okay. Which uh Sean Caveny also chose. Yeah, he did, he did. And um if you haven't heard that episode I thoroughly recommend it. That's one of my favourite apps. Yeah, he was great. Really great. Um, so I'll briefly tell you why I'm picking the extensions X B. Like Thickson's best as well, but I'm going with XP. Because What does XB stand for? So Is it extra messed. I thought it was extra best. Um but Things and say. In the days uh when there was the only way to distinguish between the contents from one cast to the next. They had two wooden stamps dipped in whitewash and applied to each top. I remember this. You say this for Sean. Yes. And for some reason the only letters available were X or a B. So they could have called it Thakston's B X, but they preferred XB. But that's what I always thought was X, but it's ch that's all it is. She's quite nice. Yeah. And it's kind of a ruby red ale. First um brewed in nineteen eighty two. celebrate the purchase of Carlisle brewery by Thiexons a few years before. Um it's never been quite as popular as Old Perculia, which is another nice pint. Yeah. Um The reason I chose this is because Um I mean you knew me when I was uh we met when I was nineteen, I think. Yeah. And I um It was quite baby faced. Yeah, fair to say still are still am. And um That obviously in teenage years was qu quite tricky 'cause people started going out to the pub and I never went Hubs on Friday nights and stuff because I just knew I wouldn't get served. I mean, I had no chance. Like when I was 16, I looked like I was twelve. So I I I I I just didn't even bother. Yeah. And when I was eighteen I used to have to take my passport with me, 'cause even fake ID didn't work. Oh, I took I took my path at once to a public made stone. I can't remember the name of it. It was on the river. And um we went to go in. And I gave him my passport and he he looked at it and saw it was real and and literally laughed. 'Cause it believe it. Yeah, okay, go on, in you go. Um So I d so I had been to pubs, obviously. My dad. And um you know, as a younger man. And then But I didn't go out with friends in pubs drinking till I was eighteen. But I s but I said on my eighteenth birthday, when I'm legal and I can go in and I'm and it's gonna be fine. I will go in and I will drink whatever you whatever you want to give me. So You said this to your dad? To my friends. To your friends, right, okay. So on my eighteenth birthday we went Into town to a terrible pub called the Tun Shiv, which is One of those pubs where they just clear out all the table sheds. Yeah. Oh, you're fingering. Yeah. It was awful. And they just clear out all the tables and chairs everyone gets rammed in, the floor's really sticky. It's really, really loud music and everyone's just standing like shoulder to shoulder, shouting each other's ears. Taking they're having a good time. Do people still go to dreadful pubs like that? I don't know. Just when I was younger, that's where we always go. We'd go to Maidstone generally, and we'd go we ended up at Da Vinci's nightclub. Before then you go to someone like Strawberry Moon Tribe, and there's these places where you just stood and it was loud and unpleasant. Yeah. And I don't know if it's just a big thing. I don't know if they exist anymore. I d I really don't know. Um And basically what happened was My friends just plied me, they went, right, I think I started with a Bex, I had a bottle of that twenty twenty. Yeah. Disgusting. I had a whiskey, then maybe another Bex, and maybe a dinantonic or something. I was in and out of there in an hour and a half and then was throwing up all the way home. They drove me home. So I literally I think I left home but I was I I was at eight or something, I was back by ten and they're like dragging me up the drive, apologising to my mum, who was laughing her head off. So I And I at that point I didn't really like any alcoholic drinks. So that's why I just said oh just give me anything and I'll drink it. And I was thinking and after that I just thought, Oh, I just don't really like alcohol. Like a bit like you with you know, you said that you drank cider and then you went to Canada and then you're you're forced to drink beer until you liked it. So then I went to a nice country pub called the Queenshead, probably a a month or two later. uh with my friend Greg, and I was saying to him, I don't want to drink because I don't really like any alcoholic drinks. And he said. Try this fixed the next B. Pint of that. And I r I still remember the first taste and I went, Oh. Oh no, do like this. Straight away you like to Yeah. Wow. Or it was just better than any other alcoholic drink that I'd had. Yeah. That sort of got me into cask and we used to drink bass as well there. But I still remember as that being the first alcoholic drink that I properly liked. And it was really nice. And they had it on tap on the draft there. for quite a while. And that's what we'd always have to ex and XP. And and that's we just we stopped going into town and a group of us Where is Thichston's Brewery? It's in Yorkshire. Yeah, yeah, Yorkshire. So um So that's Yeah, nostalgic, and also it's a really good point. So that's my choice. Lovely choice. I I think when I came on it last time I think I picked Coconee Mountain Laga, which is like a sort of Canadian generic lagers or things just happened to be prevalent at the time. But I was thinking for this, what do I actually look for when I go into a B. And it's not one specific drink, but my first choice I will look if it's al somewhere that has Trendy Bears. I'll look for a West Coast IPA because you don't see them very much. Yes. Uh Sorry, no. Probably my favourite of the beer styles I would say. Yeah, a lot more New England things and sort of East Coasty stuff, but When I do see it, I'm Yeah, brilliant. And I always go for it. So I'm just gonna go for generic any Craft West Coast. You can have a nice um rotating, revolving Yeah. West Coast there's always a West Coast IPA there. Yeah. And it's a different one every month or something. That'd be nice. Yeah. That'd be good. Yeah. So I'm gonna go for that. Okay. Yeah. Very nice. Super stuff. Um I might also or maybe I go back. Maybe I go back to my roots and go for just a pint of cider. Strongly. Why not? Old school. Was that the first cider that you would you would drink? Oh god, f first thing I would have drunk Would have been like a big bottle of Old English massive industrial strength. Tesco sleep market lager. Um but then yeah, I don't know, it would be whatever would have been at U E a Dry Blackform maybe, one of those. Yeah. Who knows. No, we'll stick with IPA because Bottle or can. I've gone for Bottle. Um I had a couple of different ideas with this. I was tempted to go. for a can of Valencia Tipra. No. That was the first beer you made. The first beer made at Binde Brewing Company, yes. Yeah. That was a really nice beer, though. I really enjoyed that. Still got a can of it somewhere, but I don't imagine it's very nice now. No, but orangey thing possessed it with the oranges ourselves. Yeah. Yeah. That was a very nice beer. Um but I've met so I won I won't go into details because I've mentioned I've talked about this forum pub notice board, I've gone with a Romanian uh pale ale. I know, uh. Which is actually I didn't realise is called Poet of Palale. I thought it was called Noah, but Noah's brewery. It's called Poet of Paleo. And it's um made of Poet of Pale ale is actually the name of the the the beer. That's all the best for it's just The nicest beer I've ever had. And I and I'm slightly scared to have it here in case it's not as nice. But whenever I go there I have to have it. And my friend Sergi gets bottles of it. And last when I went to see him in the summer He got a a little um barrel of it. We had it up in his cabin. I haven't seen it. Well you yeah, you must be able to. I haven't seen it on draft. Normally I have it in bossels. But he managed to get like a little Yeah. It was really good. Um and they're the first Uh craft beer brewery. In uh Tugmorish? And they make just amazing beers. And I w I wanna try some of their others actually. It's interesting getting to converse with you. 'Cause it was like a place It's not a touristy place, is it? No. How would you describe it? It's just a sort of Yeah, provincial town that Um It's famous famously the thing that I would think of first is got three enormous sort of industrial chimneys on the outside of the town where they make fertiliser. So it's like it's you know, if you don't want to be downwind of Yeah, that's great. Um there's a great video online actually of they destroyed one, they blew one up a couple of years ago. For fun. Uh I don't know, for f yeah, probably. Um but it's quite fun watching it go down 'cause it's really big, wide, not a thin chimney, like a massive wide Chimney. There used to be quite a lot of entertainment in the eighties. Yes. Blowing up of chimney. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But that would always get on the news. Yeah. It was really good, wasn't it? Do you remember? We get very off topic here. Yeah. On the subject of old TV things, 'cause no one else can remember this. Do you remember when they crashed a train to prove nuclear power was safe? I remember that. I re they they did this, it was like on team on the news, live on the news, right, basically. And you can look it up 'cause I've I've checked, I haven't made this up. But they they were trying to transport nuclear fuel waste, whatever it was. By trade. Yeah. And people were like, Oh, that's dangerous, and they go, No, no, it's really safe. So what we could do to prove it, and this is insane. We're gonna Drive a train at full speed into one of these things and prove there's no damage to it. And you can literally just sat around the TV and watched. I probably watch a train go full speed into this. That was incredible. That is insane. Yeah. Do you remember? Well it's not like the time, but it reminds me of the time. There was a Tory politician. They were talking about sewage in the sea. And he went, No, it's absolutely fine and he went to the sea and and and drank and made all his children Drink sea water. And it was quite contaminated. It was like lip it was horrific. And he made his children drink it as well, like for the cameras. Even if it's not contaminated, it's drink it. Uh yeah, different different times. Yeah, very different. Um okay. Well that's ex accepted in the Yes, Susmore. What about you? I think we're gonna have a wine. Okay, I was tempted to go for a line. Having said that, I don't I only really order wine. I don't really have order wine by glass generally in a pub, very I either order it with friends who'll get a bottle. Yes. Or with food. Sort of thing. I'm rarely just goes to a thing. I think if we went to the pub and I just said I'm just gonna get a large glass of Merlo. You'd be like, What? Yeah. If I pop quiz sometimes I will have a glass of wine. If I feel I don't fancy a pint, I'll have wine. Yeah, that's what I'm sort of thinking. I'm thinking we've got the sort of draft, we've got we've got that sorted. Something right here. My favourite wine style, I think, uh part of Carver, is uh Vino Verde. Portugal, which is Has a light slight fizz to it. And I'm gonna go for a slightly hipster, chin chin. If you've ever seen that. Oh, it's the f the first one that came up. Is it? It's very nice. Lovely bottle design. I was gonna say it's got a lovely bottle. Is that some sort of devil on the front? I think so. Yeah. Um you can You get there's a they sell it in a in a a lovely pastor place in Norwich called Yard, I know too. Um O and of I'll I'll occasionally buy a case of six bottles of that and have them in in there, but Vino Verde in general, but I'm gonna specifically go for that. It's like a devil who is holding a glass. Of it in each hand. Yeah. He's wearing sort of frayed running shorts in in the style of um Bruce Banner after he's become the incredible Hulk. And and and white white socks pulled up to the knee. Yeah. And he's the devil. Stamping on grapes. Yeah. Yeah. So um so yeah, it's it's it's very nice. It's a very l light sort of Not quite the fizz, but of Fiz Fizant. Lovely choice. Um and s something 'cause I like I like the sort of fizzy way. We don't always want to have caral prosecular champagne sort of things. It's nice something in between normal wine and and And you're you're very much a white wine. Man. red meat or something like or in or in the or in the midst of winter, occasionally. But given a choice, uh white wine. Rose, and of course car for the champagne of the streets. Yeah. Um I saw um for guest Tom Gilby mentioned something about Um Carver online and I just and slagging it off or something like that, and I've straight in the comments and saying don't slag off the champagne of the streets. Away, put a gag on Siri, it's quiz time. Elvis's black belt was in karate. I saw it on QI. No half points for saying JK Rowling is the lead singer of Jamiroquai. Moira Stuart. No, I'm afraid it was Gordon Honeycomb. Dan, we I presume you haven't got a pub quiz because uh we don't have a a a guest in today. Uh no, I have got a pub quiz. Oh I've made a pub quiz just for you. So am I competing against any one other thing or just myself? Well I'll tell you what we could do. There are five questions. And the topic is The history of the moon underwater. The Robin Ox era. Okay, Premier League era. Premier League era. Yeah. Yeah. Um there are five questions. Yep. How about? Uh You have to answer them all, obviously. Yep. And it's Whoever wins through me and you. is how many you get right or wrong. So if you get three right and two wrong, you win. If you get three wrong and two right, I win. Something like that. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Are these hard? They are they are tricky. I think It's just a different word for hard. Yeah. I I've tried to make it like it's not. I've tried to put in some clues to help you. If you think if if I do all f if I do all five questions and you think they're too hard, I'll g I'll give you some extra clues. I'll be kind 'cause it's the last show. And you are you are the landlord. I don't think we can just mess with the integrity of the quiz just because it's the end. It's not like the last day of school and you can bring in ball games. I I think it's tricky. It it's it's quite difficult to know because I was going back through the archives and I was thinking, right, how do I do this? Um, because we've obviously done a lot of episodes and people have chosen a lot of things and chatted about a lot of things. So I went back and was thinking I I think most of these things are memorable. If I said to you, Oh, what did um Ben Bailey Smith choose, I probably wouldn't be able uh well I can remember one or I remember we chose red stripe for example, but I can remember the rest of his choices. I do think there are certain choices which stick in the mind and I've tried to go with those. And traditional format, you can do the questions, I won't answer them and then we'll come back after a break. Okay. You happy with that? Yeah, I'm I'm I'm I'm a stickler for habit. You love the format. I love the format. Okay. Question one. Which comedian came on the moon underwater and called their pub The Little Prick. Right. Okay. Question two. Which musician? Came on the moon underwater. picked two draft choices, which were the very rare Screech cider and a Spanish beer. Who Classica. Okay. You're not looking very confident at the moment. Not confident, that's why. Okay. Question three. Yeah. Which YouTube sensation came on the moon underwater and chose tequila rose as their spirit? Okay. Yeah. You look slightly happier then. No? Keep going there. Keeping it all right. Which comedian? Came on the moon underwater. You get as well. And arrive with a spray turn she regretted by the end of the show and chose choses her drinking chosen her drinking time and Mezgal Negroni during a breakup in Ibetha. Yeah. Yeah. And question five. Which Huge YouTubers Dream Pub Companions were Andre the Giant and Paddington Bear. Okay, right. You're you're not looking confident. No, I'm not looking confident at all with this. Turns out I don't remember anything from the what the last year and a half. Dan. Right, we'll go for a break. We'll see if I can get even one out of five there. Actually, a one. You got one. Um uh yeah, we'll go with a break now. Be back very shortly with the quiz answers. Welcome back to the final Moon Underwater, where we are with our special guests, us Yes Designing our own training. It was a hard booking, wasn't it? It was a hard booking. Yeah. To call the all the might of the three hundred thousand producers that a lot of negotiations. Do you want to go through the Questions one by one as ex tradition. Let's do that. So this is the uh history of the moon underwater Premier League era. Uh question one. Yes. Which comedian? Call de pub. Little I can't remember, is my honest answer. Yes. I I'm gonna assume it was a while ago though, because I can't remember, but that doesn't assume me anything. So I'm going to go for Glen Moore. Oh before you go for your guests. Okay, so it's not Glenn Moore. It's not Glenn Moore. Right. Just that I will not go more yet. I was just thinking. Yeah, go on. Glennmore w I can remember chose Paradise. I remember that he could be Paradise, yes. Off the top of my head. The little prick. I think you can probably guess the gender of the comedian. Bye. Nine. Because it because the way they were talking about it that was it was a bit of a it was a bit of a joke. And it was a following a theme of the show. With some of her other choices. Okay. I don't get a point for that. I don't want to I don't want to pick the point. Okay. Okay. So which musicians draft choices. Well the very rare. Screech cider S K R E A C H. Yeah. And a Spanish beer called Mahu Classica. I'm torn between two for this. Okay. Which I remember um Richard Archer talking about stuff down in the southwest. Something like that. I remember Alfie Templeman talking about Being Spain. Yes. I think it's one of those. It might not be. Do you want me to tell you that's the thing? No, I don't want you to tell me. I'm gonna go with See, I think Richard Arts was an Ile, wasn't it? Was it? I'm gonna go with Alphy temple. Well, it's obviously not then, is it? Richard Richard Archer. Oh man, you He tech he text I'm sure he texts you with a picture of something that he'd that we mentioned on it. Yeah. That is bad luck, mate. Well not bad luck, it's just lack of knowledge. Yeah. I really thought you were gonna say when you said oh he talked about going to the southwestern side oh he's got it. Do you know what it was? When I said when I said Rich Sharks, you looked like I got you got in my head a bit there, even though you weren't trying to. Okay. You've got that. Oh, didn't want to give you any critical. Well, yeah, but then I was like, Oh Maybe it's not maybe it is out of time. Either way, I've got zero. So I really need to turn this around. If I'm to gain any glory. Okay. You really should get this one, Robin. Pack a cloud. No, no, not that one. Okay. All right, well, should we do that one first? Okay. You really should get this one. Which YouTube sensation? chose tequila rose as her spirit. Her spirit, right, that's S Mem oh. Probably Becky then Becky. He's done it. I was gonna say I say YouTuber, but then Jesse Cape does YouTube as well. So that but yeah. Um yeah, okay, point then. Bambino Becky. Yes. Okay. And you're Okay, good, so have we gained a little bit of glory there. I would have got it had you not said her. Oh well I I thought you might get that because I know you're a Yeah and you're a big fan, I thought maybe you two I've never drunk a rose with the three. Yeah, I do remember now her talking about it. Yeah. Because she told us how it's not. That just keeps using her passport and not coming. Yeah, because I don't really see it. No, because she said it's not pronounced Rose, is it? Oh yes. Tequila Rose. Tequila Rose, you're right. So we've So that question should be void if I go wrong, but I'll make it not void. All right. Which comedian arrived at the moon underwater. With a spray tag. And apologies to Tatty, that we can the one thing I remember from all of this was your spray tag. I think there was loads of comments after that, wasn't there, of um Uh people saying calling her a munchkin from Wizard of Wars. Yeah. And then I saw like um yeah, Umpalumpus, sorry, yeah, a couple of weeks ago. Oh yes, Umpalumpus probably it was, wasn't it? And I was thinking she went to the um Uh what's the new Wizard of Oz Wicked. Wicked. I think yeah. She's at the Oh no, but it's not the same thing. No, it's not. Shut up. She moved to Paris. Yeah. I saw that. She's up sticks. Big fan. Great guest. Okay, so it's two two. Oh god, there's a decider. So you've done better than you thought. Yeah, but only because You were I think you were a bit unlucky on Richard Archer. You taught yourself. I'm unlucky on Richard Archer, but I'm lucky on Becky that you said okay she So here we go. Which YouTubers dream pub companions? Were Andre the Giant Paddington Bay. I think It might be Max Fosh. Done it. Oh, he's done it. I completely forgot Max Vinante was just there. Yeah, why why did he pick Andre the Giant? I think it was because of all Andre's sort of records of how much he can drink. His record of drinking beers was something like fifty five beers or something ridiculous. Yeah. You know, he just drank. bottles of wine like they were water. Yeah. It's quite difficult for him to get drunk, I think. He managed it. But Well paid. Well done, Andre. Well done. Well done. For doing better. He said, Yeah. Okay. So he's gone out on a win. Yeah, I have, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So happy days. No My first post-divorce pint. The gin I had in Hull. My nan's homemade buck fast. The rum I drank with Liz Hurley. The lager I stole from the pigeon detectives. Right, uh Dan. Time now for a little feature I like to call because it is the name of it, drink in time. Okay. This is where we get to relive a specific drink from a specific occasion. Mm. And just do it again. That's where we live means. I've never found a way in all these year and a half of saying that. Yes. I can't I don't know I know what it is, but I don't know how to explain it in words. But you know, 'cause you've been here. So just tell me yours. Okay. Uh Well, let's go back to the start of this. Friday the twenty seventh of November. twenty fifteen at eleven fifty three AM. I got a say it again. On Friday the twenty seventh of November. twenty fifteen. Yeah. At eleven fifty three A. M. I got an email. Oh, I know where this is going. Uh, from I got an email from myself. Um from from or from someone with my name. And the email address is dannies forty at gmail dot com. And the email said Dan Comma. Your birthday is New line. I think this is in a a haiku. Approaching like a fast train. Will you ride or not? Oh I got that. That was two weeks before my fortieth birthday. What did you think when you got that? I had No idea. What was going on? Uh And I I just replied saying, Do I have a choice? And then uh That afternoon. I got another email saying, Do we have your attention? Are you ready? You don't know when it will come, but come it will. Will you ride or not? And I said yes. Very willing just to get into a conversation with an insane stranger. Yeah. And then I got another one a couple of days later saying uh It's been easy so far, but it's about to get hard. You want your birthday present? You have to work for it. Go to the market where farmers reside and demand your birthday fish. What did you do then? Right, I went so so I I'll go to the Go to the Hernhill market on a Sunday. The Farmers Market. Farmers Market. Yeah. It's just for those you know the Defamers market, it's just like a normal market, but they charge more money. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And um So I went down there and I knew um I'd sort of got to know some of the stall holders there. And I I still didn't know at this point. Who is sending me these emails. Yeah. And um So I went down there and I thought well It's There was a there was a fish stall. But I thought Surely surely it's someone that knows me. So they they've given something to someone that I know at the market. That was my reasoning. So of the two or three people that I knew who I'd got to know I was clear. Buying like whatever I was buying bread and Angel. Cookie for Leo, whatever it was. Um A few. Have you got a birthday fish for me? And then looking at me like I was absolutely mental. I love that this happened. And then finally I went to the actual fish place. Yeah Uh This is gonna sound weird, but have you got a birthday fish for me? She kind of did look at me as if I was mental and then went said something like Oh, oh it's you, is it awesome? Yeah. And reach down and gave me a fish. What type of fish was I can't remember. I I think it was a h a whole fish. Okay. 'Cause I think I had to ask for it to be filleted because I can't do that. Yeah. Um And I it might have been a sea bass, maybe? Not important. No. And I took that home and we cooked that and that was fine. And this went on for Is there a note with a fish or something? I think there was a note that's a note. Oh no, it was a C pass because I got another email. It said a beautiful fish to see, Bass, don't you think, Daniel? Overfish t overfish terribly, though, so make sure you eat him up. Of course our fishy friend isn't your main cause, Dan. Think of him as an entree. You'll meet your birthday gift soon, as sure as Duke Met Jango. Jad's reference there. Is that what it is? I'm assuming. to I guess I it's probably Friday the tenth. guess it was my birthday. Yeah. And I was at work. And about Where were you working? I was working uh I think I was working on a kid's show called Officially Amazing in Ravenscourt Park near Hammersmith. And around four PM Call from reception and they said um it's a package for you. And I went out to reception and And a and a letter. And I think she said something like Some weird guy just dropped this off for you. We can talk about that in a minute. Um and I took it in and it said and on the it said, do not open this box. I could open the envelope. And the envelope said you need to leave Work uh within thirty minutes. Within thirty minutes. Get on the train at Gold Hawk Road. And travel west. And at that point you may open your sorry, travel east. And at that point you may open the box. So it's quite weird. Someone giving me a box and then telling me to open it to open it on a busy tube train. Blow up a train. Exactly. So Sunday I was like ring I had to ring my voice. I was like going Oh terrorist listening to this now going, Dan is the answer to all of our problems. Oh sort of this is this is happening. It was a Friday, I was like, It' you all right if I leave a bit early and he knew it was my fortieth, I think, and he was like, Yeah, yeah, no worries, go on. So Packed up and left. Got on the um Walk to the cheap station, got on the cheap station, open the box. And inside was my And a Eurostar ticket. I think it was a one way Eurostar ticket to to P to Paris. Uh Packet of crisps. Coys? bottle of beer, which I think was a fullers A Fuller's or a Young's. I think I think it was a Fuller's, like a pot a bottle of best or something like that. And um And a note and it must I think it just I can't r remember what the notes said, but basically it was like go to King's Cross and get on get on this train. Yeah. So I went there. And I still didn't know who had been sending me all this stuff. And I The writing on the letter. very much like the my brother's handwriting. Yeah. So I texted my brother and was like, ha ha You slip and revealed yourself. I'm I'm a handwriting expert and I know and I know it's you. And he replied going Absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I was like, Well of course that's what you would say And um So I got I got got to the got to the Eurostar and went through customs. Just thinking This is amazing and sort of great fun. And expecting my brother to pop out. Maybe some other people. I didn't really know who. So I sort of sat around the US Star waiting area, then the train got called. And I thought oh someone's gonna some point while I'm waiting here and they did it. So I was like, Well, I'm guess I'm just gonna have to get on the train. This could've been the greatest practice for jokes. This is the evening, isn't it? For you to just end up in Paris with no return tickets on your own at like ten o'clock at night. And I remember that I didn't really have anything To read as well. I do remember that. I remember thinking I've got two and a half hours, what am I gonna do on the train? I had to buy a um bottle opener, so I I was thinking well I'll I'll drink my beer on the train. So I had to buy a bottle open because I hadn't got one. So I went up. And sat down on the train and I Called um My wife. Uh And I said um I'm on I'm on I'm on the Euro start. I think I've been texting obviously what's happening. I was like still no one around, and she was going, Oh. Oh, it's weird, isn't it? I was going, I guess someone's just gonna meet me there in Paris. So I still didn't know. And while I was on the phone I then looked around. And I heard some noise sort of coming behind me. And then there were you. And our friends Jim. Al and Andy coming in. I've got a video of it. I've got a video of it. You can then see you processing everything for about ten seconds. Your head brain you're like Right. Yeah, yeah. It was a really it wasn't like one of those double take things. It was just kind of a a kind of a wr like took me seconds to to work out what was going on. It was so fun to do. It was because it was so brilliant. Because your basically what happened is your wife had said to us. Uh it's Fourtieth coming up. Um I don't wanna go. party for him, can you take away somewhere? Now we had no interest in celebrating your birthday. I mean quite the opening. We were interested in the precedent set for future birthdays. Because we should point out that you Always ignore my birthday. Yeah. Yeah. We always used to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it became like a funny thing was a funny thing. Yeah. It's really funny. Yeah. She was getting annoyed by it. We were saying like Is it his wife that's getting annoyed? Or his dad pretending it's his wife. No, I didn't think you did. We're they could admit that you're like making us say that. Yeah. Anyway, yeah. So that was good. So is your drink the train drink? It's the train drink. I think the first drink we had. So I think it might have actually been I think you guys had some carver or something. I think we drank that. Well we'd be we'd gone to the champagne bar at Saint Pancras. And we were watching you 'cause you could look down into the platform bit where you were just milling about on your own just spying on everything. Were you guys weren't you sort of running around and sort of um Uh hiding behind pillars and going, I've got eyes Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a lot of there was a lot of sort of Some of the things that's And we a we then had an amazing weekend. Yeah. Which it became known as the precedent. And it's become known as the president because then it set a precedent for uh future birthdays. Yes. For other friends. We've been going through those quite slowly. Very slowly. Um through different friends surprising them for their birthdays in different ways. I think I think the surprise element hasn't Quite. beaten the the original. No. No. No. Um there was the time you trudged up a snowy For someone. Yeah. Or for someone to to grab them. No, they didn't. Uh anyway. Okay, that's very that's a lovely one, Doven. Long story, sorry, but that I think that I was th there's lots of different ones that I thought of. Yeah. I thought of us having a drink in the hot tub in Salt Spring Island was a very nice drink. There was Uh the first part of Guinness I had after getting off the Trans Siberian in Going to an Irish pub in Moscow. That was a great drink. There were lots, but I just thought actually that one does it, I think. It's always a really special one. Yeah. Yeah. For me, I mean, I think I was considering like when when I remember going down When I lived in Canada in the ski resort in Whistler, we always go and drink in Merlin's uh the part. I but I mentioned this on the other on my other um pub designing episode uh with John. And I remember one day walking 'cause you you took we didn't start for accommodation, which was like a hundred metres vertical up the hill a bit. Well you could walk the quickest way to get there was to walk across the ski slope in the evening and then walk down the hill. We were just walking down there and it was like payday, so all your friends would be there. I remember just seeing the window. You couldn't hear what was going on, but you could just see people with like jugs of beer and all that and music going on in front of a fire and all this, and thinking, God, this is This is A good line. Nice. That was really good. Really? Just think quite recently. It's probably gonna be something with boring me with my well not boring for me, but boring for my wife and kids. I remember we went Hawaii Croatia didn't just that's we had a villain near Dubrovnik a couple of years ago. with our other friend, uh, Mark Hermes and his family. And we went On a boat trip around three different islands. So they take you to a bit, you have a drink. And then On the boat, you could get wine on the boat, all for free. And it was I I can honestly say this was probably the worst wine I've ever drunk. It was It was the it was undoubtedly the cheapest wine available in Croatia. Um, and it didn't taste great, but it was such a lovely day just Potting around Ireland, just chatting with friends. I remember there's there's the sun setting. White plastic cup. You know, those really the ones that used to get Um like cheriade from a leisure centre. vending machine in the e in eighties. They sort of like real Flimsy plastic up. Just drinking that and just again, this has been s just been such a great day. That is nice. That is nice. But Chris is great. Yeah, I want to go there, actually. I should go there. I'll just sort that. Well lovely. That's lovely. More in depth than mine, but But thanks to you. Because you did organise most of that. True. Very true. I like organising. Dan spirit choice. I mean my my spirit of choice is a is a cognac or a Mataxa, but I have to go. For the Romanian firewater tweaker. Yeah. I have to. I'd love to have that. If I had a pub, I would love to have that as a as an option for people. I don't even know if it'd even be legal, but I've drunk over it. Yeah. It was absolutely disgusting. It's disgusting. I w I I When I knew we were gonna be doing this. The people of Romania Yes your drink's disgusting. Everybody makes it and drinks it. You almost every house you go to, you will be offered it. Um To be fair, no one ever goes here's a lovely tasting fire water. No. No no. If you're having something called fire water it's Some of them Some of the Some of the ones that are a little bit smoother and are not quite so Horrifically strong. They will say oh this is this is It's still insane. Yeah. you sort of go, Oh, it is slightly better. So I I thought, I've got to choose this because and I and when I knew we were gonna be doing this, I thought I was gonna bring in some of it. But then we were doing it at nine o'clock in the morning. I'm like I don't even think you wanna smell it at nine o'clock in the morning, let alone taste it again. So I didn't bring it. I'd I'd tell you a quick story about the first time I had it. So I had met Carmen and we I was going back to meet her family in Romania. And um it's the so the first time I met her dad. And a dad. We were quite blunt about it, was an out alcoholic. Yeah. He drank a lot. He did. He really did drink a lot. And um so I got there and He was a ver he was a very intelligent man. He was like a chess champion. But he w he worked on the railways all his life and he'd so he was Very much a man of the people. And he and I was like Oh my God, I've really got to like impress this guy. So it's very eastern Europe, isn't it? Working the railways and being a chess champion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Very sort of like Cole Wari. Yes. He was a fascinating. It's true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My grandpa. Used to work in the railways in Glasgow. Shit at chess. My granddad works on the railways in Kent. Very good at Cribbage. Okay. Yeah. That was their choice of game. Right. Good game, cribbage. Anyway, we've gone off topic we've gone so well. So I went to uh so I went into this into the flat. And I was quite intimidated. And he's got he's got quite a reputation. And I was like, Well I've got to impress him and he was reputation for what? I think he he He did laugh and he was funny, but he I think he I think He didn't suffer fools, I think, is probably a thing. Oh god, you're right on Edge then. Yeah. And I Wow. So I was just thinking, right. You know. How do I do this? Luckily he did like he liked football, he did like me and it was all fine. But So he was drinking Sweet and he was like dead. He made the sign. Sort of f thumb thumb and uh little finger pointing out. lifting it up to the mouth, like as in drink. And I was like, Well, I've got to have it. And I've never had it at this point. So he gave me a shot of it. Cheers. The trap was like, Oh my god, what is this? And then I just I just assumed that I couldn't say no. So I had seven shots of it. Oh God. I was absolutely hammered. At one point I was uh dangling Uh who the boy Uh, Andre, who became my nephew. uh out out the wind out the window. Luckily Michael Jackson. Yeah. Like Michael Jackson. They were on the ground floor. I do want to make that point, 'cause Andre brings it up quite a lot when we go over there. Yeah. About the terrible time I was dangling him out the window I was going, We're on the ground floor. You were like a foot above the floor. Um B I wouldn't have done it sober. I wouldn't have done it sober, especially not on the first visit to the to the to the family. So And and we talk sorry, quickly I don't want to dwell on this, but What was the bit between having Your shots of Tweeka, where it is. Yeah. And Dangling a child from a window cause that did you just go grab him and hang about women. No I think I was playing with him and he was being cheeky and things just escalated. And I think he was And I was like, maybe I'm tickling him or something and then he was he was like maybe I'd tick him about right, that's it And like kind of maybe I'll put turning him upside down or something. And for some reason thought I'm gonna dangle you out the window. Okay. He still brings it up and and sort of now torments my son. And sort of says well this is what you did to me and I said hang on with drunk on sweet. So I'm gonna Hang us window. That's fair enough. So somebody's gonna break the cycle of window hanging. Exactly. So I remember this is the thing, we talked about this about this before as well. It's like they'll go, Oh, there's no impurities in it and there's no uh there's no sugar, so there'll be no hangover. Uh yeah, there will be absolutely. And they they Uh, in Romania they will drink sourred milk. Buy soured milk. And in the morning. I had that. In Where did they go last year? Slovakia early in the year. Yeah. And they had like in the rest of them they had sour milk and I thought I'll have some sour milk. Yeah. Because it sounds interesting. Yeah. It's all right. Well, I wasn't expecting it. And I was like, I woke up and I was like, I didn't really want anything to eat. I was going, Oh, God, I'm gonna have to eat something. So I thought I'll have some cool flex. And I poured that on and I almost just gagged and threw up and I was like, Oh, that milk's off. And I go, Oh sorry, sorry, sorry, they gave me some more and I was like as well And it's not and then it's only then that I realise Oh no, it's actual it's supposed to be like Yeah. So um Tweaker. A great choice. What about you? Again, I did I We've done this before I did it. So but I've so I've gone for a different approach. I've just thought What spirit do I drink? Most often 'cause I love gin. I genuinely know I don't really drink that much. I don't often Or digit and tonics really. I would normally if I want something that's not a pint, I'd probably go for wine. Okay. Pint of wine. He's Make a point. So what I will um But I thought what spirit I do have quite a lot is vodka within a bloody Mary. So I'm gonna go for any vodka that can be mixed with a bloody Mary or Um Next with Clamato Gs to make a Caesar. Yes. Or The um drink um that Alvi Dumbleman introduces to McLeod. McLeod. I definitely I definitely need to try that. That was amazing, yeah. So Um So yeah, those were um that's what I'm just gonna have from mine, just very simple. Okay. Choice. Good stuff. Right down wild card choice. Anything drink or food? Anything at all. Okay. What are you gonna pick to add pub? I'm gonna go for food. So There are other drinks that I could have chosen. I'm gonna go for food. And This is my feeling, right? I when I go to a a pub, especially in the evening after work And It's quite difficult sometimes to just stay for one and then go home for dinner or to go out for dinner or whatever. Yeah. So I want there to be some food in a pub. And I want it to be more than crisps. But I don't wanna have to be go oh I'm gonna fish and chips. Yeah. sausage and mat. I don't want that at at all. You want that one because it's too filling? Too filling, too much. It's too much. And I just like if I'm I just feel like if I w if I go after work and I'm gonna have two or three pints, I would like It's just something. Right. You'll you will definitely agree with this. Pinchows. Yeah, obviously I agree because that's the correct answer. Yes. Yeah. Uh I just think it was po it was perfect. So Pin Show, for those who don't know, is a sort of um I Spanish tapaz like thing, generally on bread with the cocktail stick in it. In fact, I think the pinch of word comes from the stick, doesn't it? Uh originally from the Basque region, perhaps. Um but we we've had them certainly in in Barcelona together. Uh and they are brilliant. They're perfect 'cause you just You get a plate, they're fairly cheap. Yep. So you just go and go, I'll I'll have A couple of these sort of things or Pinch got a YouTube video where I went on a Pinch Barcelona's famous Pincho Street, the Bly which went eight pinches in every one of those restaurants in a day. So nice. Which is really good. So so yeah, I think that's brilliant. And it's just a great it would just be Perfect. It's just like well uh oh I'm I was gonna have one beer, we're having a really good time. I'm gonna stay for a couple, but now I'm not gonna leave till half nine. I'm not gonna get home till half ten. I don't really wanna eat dinner then. Oh it's all right. I can have two or three pinchos. I'm not saying it's a substantial dinner. Yeah. But It's something and you won't and you'll you'll feel it'll just feel nice to have some Underwater is is a tapas bar, basically. Oh, so it's a pub, but it's got pinchos in it. Sounds like a pinj bar. Yeah. That's what all Pinjabas are. Yeah. So that's so that's what I've gone for, I think. That's fabulous. Yeah. I would completely agree with that. I've gone food as well. Um, and I've gone for a slightly I'm all left field choice. I find Pubs cater very well for like crisp type things. Yes. That's very good. You can get your pub classics, your pie and chips. Yeah, those things. Yeah. Think what he shall lack is a light healthier option. Okay. I want something. I don't want Like this this doesn't have my extent. You know, do what I need to work hard to look this good. You do. And so um I I was thinking, what would I really like? What do I really always enjoy when I get? Just like to be served with a pint. That's why my main underwater We'll be providing one bit of sushi with every pint. In particular sashimi, the big bit of raw fish. Yeah, yeah. So there won't be any warnings, there'll be no signage. And you'll get with just a nice little bit of a little bit Lump of raw tuna with it. Yeah. That'd be great 'cause it's nice It makes you feel healthy, counteracts the booze. Yeah. Um Nice but protein? Yeah. Yeah. I was while you were saying that, I was wondering what you're gonna have and what popped into my head was an omelet station. I wouldn't mind I wouldn't mind a little chef there. And you go, um I c can I just have a yeah, just a little cheese omelette. But I think it's I want something that's served with the pint. So maybe when you're ordering Since you order a Guinness, while the Guinness is settling, the guy just makes you an omelet. Oh yeah. B Dana, time to bar something from your pub. Um I'm gonna go first. Okay. Because I'm not changing mine from when I came on here because I still feel passionately about it, as I explained to John who agreed with me. I do not think Pubs should reserve tables. Yes. I hate it. Yes. I do not mind in a restaurant area of a pub. If you have a section that is a restaurant, that's fine, obviously you can you can do that. But in general pub It's not acceptable. No. Uh If you want to get a table, you should get there when it opens. Yep. That she should be doing. And the worst thing That can happen in a pub, I would argue, is when you're there for a day with your friends, you've you've got there really early, you get in a table, you're sat at the table, and someone comes over and puts down, oh, this table's reserved. You're gonna have to live in an hour's time. Yeah. Like, what? We've been here drinking for five hours and these giving you money and these filthy casuals are gonna turn up. Yeah. For an hour. No, I completely not drink much. Yeah. I d I I think it's And sometimes you walk in and there's a spare table and you've walked in at six o'clock and and there's Um And it's reserved at six thirty. So no one's gonna sit there. So not because they're gonna what's the point? 'Cause I'm gonna get booted off in half an hour. Yeah. Or so you don't sit there and then quite often you look around at six forty five and there's no one there. Yeah. And maybe they stroll in at six fifty and you think It's It's If if you are gonna have them and you shouldn't. If they're not there at six thirty one, that thing comes off and you've lost the take. I don't but you wouldn't have it. You wouldn't have it. That's just it's moot. Yes. Okay. Good. I'm glad that's a great. What about you, Dan? What are you barring from your part? It's not very creative this. I thought about it and I think I love pubs and parks. Part of the thing is I don't get too wound up about anything in a pub. I'm quite accepting about how every pub is. I kind of like the fact that they're all different and all Go to different pubs. and go, Oh, this one's like this and I'll just accept it. And if I don't really like it, I'll I won't go back there. Yeah. But so but I don't sort of rant about different things. No. So I try to think what are the things that I really don't like about a pub? And What I don't like and these are I suppose you do get them I suppose you do get them everywhere, but you d particularly I think in central London. I'm fine with Bar stalls at the bar? do not like the little stalls at the tables. Oh, I hate them. They are so uncomfortable. I don't understand why they're there. They don't take up less room than a chair. Are they slightly more easy to maneuver around? Maybe. Maybe. I think they're bad for posture. They're uncomfortable. For me, right, when I go to a pub. I would prefer generally to be sitting down. Yeah. I don't wanna be comfortable. And I wanna be uh warm as I said. Yep. And and I want to sit around a table with a friend or friends, and I want us all to be comfortable and all have a back to our chair. And be able to be sitting comfortably while we enjoy our drink and our conversation. I do not want to be constantly going Oh God, I'm trying to I'm trying to balance or I'm like my back I've I'm slouching. Because I haven't got a back to my sit and I have to sit up s fighting I just hate them. And I'm just like just get rid of them. Put chairs with backs in. Stop it. Is it possible you could do with a bit of yoga or pilates to strengthen your core? Abs absolutely. But I still want a proper chair to sit in. You see, I don't really mind the little ch the little stools. Okay. What I don't like is high chairs and high tables. Yeah, not to the point, no because If I'm drinking a lot. I wanna be as close to the ground in case I fall off as possible. Like give me a food on that we can all sit on or something like that. I I want to be fairly low down. They don't take up any less space. There's still the same footprint. It just you're just unnecessarily high up. If you've got a bag with you that you want to watch out for being stolen, it's harder to do you need to try and find a hook or something like that or It's a lot more difficult to look after. Don't like those at all. But yeah, but the little stores don't bother me. But hey, it's your pub, Dan. Thanks. There won't be any of my pubs And all the and and not only that, there won't be any uncomfortable wooden chairs without any cushioned areas on them. Like used to have at school in the eighties. They will be comfortable chairs. Not all arm chairs, obviously, but they will be comfortable. to sit on. What will they be like the chair uh will they'll be uniform like 'cause a lot of the time these days they just get You just get those. These trendy bars get loads of random chairs from our old primary school and just put 'em in. Yeah. And then Yeah, no, I don't want that. No. What do you want? I don't really know. I'll have to investigate. How about the tables can be like sit standing desks? If there's a little part of you want to stand up for a bit, you can. Yeah. Yeah. Like safe standing in football stadiums. Well that's it's not a bad idea, 'cause then if you've got more people than chairs, you can say, right. We're gonna bring the table up. We'll bring the table up, everyone stand around. Yeah. Fair enough. Then you just could trip over loads of chairs though. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Maybe that's the reason they don't do that. Maybe that's one of the many reasons. Good. Good. Okay, Dan. Pick your dream pub companion Someone to spend an evening in the pub with Pubmates, Pubmates It can be anyone, Darren Bent or Danger Mouse, pub mates. Pubmates They could be alive or dead, but if they're dead, they'd be alive for this Otherwise drinking with a cup, pub mates. Pubmates, Pubmates, pub mates, it's really really great. Dream at pub companion now. Okay, I thought that a few people You know the actor Robert Mitchum? I know the name, but I've only seen about five films as we've discussed. Yes. Uh was he in American Pie Two? No, he wasn't. Well, TopCun. No. Was in the Blues brothers. I don't know him. No. He uh Oh wait, was he in Scrooge? He was In Scrooged, it was one of the last films he did. He was one of the executives, he was quite old though. Yeah. He was a uh this isn't my choice, by the way, but he was my second choice. He was a real He drank a lot. He loved moonshine. He if he loved moonshine so much that he he sort of did his own film like off his own back called Thunder Road, which is a de which is a good film. with his son. Um called Moonshine and he used to drink so much and he and he I think nowadays Oh, I miss you. Well, I get cancelled. But he used to drink a lot, party a lot. He wasn't the most faithful of men to his wife. Although he loved his wife, he wasn't the most faithful. There's a great story in the biography about him during the making of Thunder Road where Uh he was having a great time l meeting all these people who genuinely made moonshine and he was really interested in that culture. And he was on set. And there was like basically rumours that there was hardly any women left in the in the county that hadn't spent the night with him. And His wife came to visit the set and um So he was like, All right, you know, I've got to be on my best behaviour. And then he uh went out drinking after filming. And then Uh, woke in the morning. And was in bed with a woman who was like, Oh no, my wife's here. It kind of kind of sneaked out, went down to the set and just went. J say that I got drunk or something. And um About eleven o'clock kinda sorted down to the set and she went, Oh uh Bobby, um You left your uh you left your y why do you why are you running out so early this morning? You left your watch and everything. Basically he was in bed with his wife. He just assumed He just assumed that he was in bed with another woman. That's amazing. Yeah. He's a ma he's a m there's so many great stories about that. And bar fights and stuff that he's to get into. But Uh, my choice and I would love to have a night out with him, but I I don't there's no way I'll be able to keep up. So so my choice is gonna be Louis Armstrong. Okay. 'Cause I love Louis Armstrong. a lot and I would love to who have met him and talked to him. I think he was more of a He liked it he liked to smoke joints more than he drank, I think. I don't know how much he drank. He was more of a smoker. Uh I really love him and I've been to his house in uh In Queens in New York, which is now sort of a museum. Right, okay, that makes me uh fascinating. And I really impressed the person. 'cause I knew so much. And um did you impress them though? Did you think you did? Or were they rolling their eyes? I am choosing to believe I impressed them. It sounds to me like this happens occasionally and it's just they've got the back blow is insufferable. Yeah. He's got He's got it's quite it's quite a uh humble house, right? Which he didn't see as humble, but it's quite a humble house considering what a giant he was. But one of the most amaz and he's got a beautiful room where he used to listen to uh take to take and he's to record himself with his thoughts and he would record music off the radio and Have recordings of his own stuff. And it's all Fairly humble. Except for the bathroom, which is all gold. The toilet, everything is all gold. I tell you it's made not made of actual gold. It's a completely gold bathroom. It's incredible. If you go online and have a look just sort of type in Louis Armstrong gold bathroom. It's amazing. Um, and I slightly hesitate to say this, but I I've had two dreams where I've met him. been so real. It's it's insane. Like the most vivid dreams I've had. And they've both been meeting him. One of them was What is the mean? Performing in the Wit Gift Center in Croyd In a shopping center. Oh, he was. Yeah. With a band that I went up to, I was like, Lou, what you what are you doing? And he was like Oh, we're just we're just uh what did impression we're just uh yeah, we're just playing here. And I was like, This is amazing. Like why are you before we get a shopping tent was like playing because we couldn't get couldn't get a booking at the checkers and Could couldn't get into the uh what was it, Fairfield Halls or whatever at Croydon. And we just had this long conversation and it was amazing. It felt like talking to him and I woke up the next day That was amazing. It felt like I was talking to it. It was insane. So I would love to have a night in the pub with him. Yeah. When was the other time you met Dream Louis Arms? I've I've it's annoyingly I've forgotten what the circumstance of the dream was. I just know I had another one. Uh I've forgotten the circumstance, but it was a similar feeling when I woke up in the morning and went Oh my god, I can't believe that's happened again. Yeah. So uh I don't believe in any stuff any weird stuff like that, but I'm choosing to believe that In the in the what you've said in. Yeah, I just th I just think he sort of thinks well I've got and have a chat with some some fans. Yeah. Especially the ones that It's the Croydon bit that I'm It's so the Croydon bit was so weird. That's brilliant. But that was sort of my in to the conversation was where you're going Why are you performing in a shopping centre, Louis? And uh yeah. So I would love to I'd think he's he had a really interesting life and I love his music. And then obviously he'd have to get up in my apartment. And Play some s play some music for us. Yeah. Um Well He always said horn as well. Okay, fine. I will go for an another American. Okay. Someone who's alive though. Yep. I would like to go drinking with Snoop. Oh nice. I've always been a fan of Snoop since his Dave I'm Doggy Star okay now. And I have constantly been amazed how he has continued To be in the public eye, reinvent himself to now this man who will like cook on T V now. Yeah. Considering he was on trial for murder in the nineties. How he has Somehow stayed at this level. Others have fell, by the way. There's never been a bit where Snoop has lost fame. There's no haven't been interesting in Snoop. He's just continued through this entire time. I've I've got a friend of mine who Met Snoop, said he was lovely. Um I just think he's a f fascinating man, so interesting, really funny, and I just love Just love to hang out with him. And you can tell him about your summer ritual. Yeah, that's that yeah, yeah, very true. Every every year. Um apart from I think this year, 'cause it wasn't it it wasn't really a summer. No normally every year When it first get that really sunny day, I would just put on The album Doggy Style and Drink Gin and Juice on my own. But then this year they l it didn't happen because there literally wasn't the where there was there was no hot days. Correct. Imagine Snoop walking into your pub. Grey as well. Imagine if we went out for a night out. Yeah. I said I was gonna bring a mate along. I just brought Snoop. Yeah. What do you reckon what'd you reckon Snoop would drink? Gin and juice. Gin Jes, I assume. Yeah. If Win I could take him in No rich. Well, murderous? Yeah, I don't know if you get into it. He might have learned. Mm-hmm. Maybe the murderers, yeah. You'd have to start there and go, Look, this is where we drink. Yeah, Sneep. What you think? What do you think? And then Yeah, I don't know. Where would you take that? I d I've never ordered Jin and Juice in the murderers. I wonder if you need to go something that's bit more Cocktail. Is there a good cocktail bar there? Sure there is. Today. Uh fabulous. Right. Well you're going out with Louis Armstrong in the uh shopping centre in Croydon and I'm going out to the murder of the Down two we've got one final thing to do here for the uh for our pubs, and that is to name. Underwater. What is yours gonna be called? Oh this was really hard. Some people have had such amazing names for their parts, haven't they? And you just sort of go, Oh, that's a brilliant name. I don't know. I mean I thought we could go really bleak and call it the drowned moon. The blood moon is a nice in honor of you know, it could be a really beautiful blood moon moon. Moon six feet underwater. Six feet underwater. But what are you gonna get for? I um I thought about uh Calling it the rear window after my favourite Hitchcock film. Which I thought. Yeah, the rear window. Um I might I but in the end I think I'm just gonna call it the Louis Armstrong. I mean I'm dumping up. Oh that's nice. And I think I mean I think are you gonna fancy a drink down the Louis? Yeah. My worry is that Louis Armstrong is probably Winnie V, she's really going to think you're a stalker. When you go, let's come to my pub. I've named you, Louis. It's a bit tryhard. I'm not gonna call mine the snow. But I tell what though, mate. Yeah. This is the thing about Louis. If I say to Louis Come to the pub, come to my pub. And I hadn't named it. And then when I got in there, I was like, No, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm thinking of naming after you. He'd love that. Do you know how I know that? 'cause Louis Armstrong, when he went and you can still listen to this, when he went on Desert Island Discs Chose ten songs. And all ten songs. Well by Louis Armstrong. Brilliant. Love that. That's that's that way with George Foreman naming all his kids George Foreman, isn't it? That's That's absolutely tremendous. So so good. Well I was thinking about this. I named I My pub before was mountain themed last time. Okay. Um I this time I was I was thinking I was thinking what should I call this last night and My son Arlo, who's seven, has started playing the game formerly known as FIFA, now E A F C and is doing the mode of the game Where you Have a Professional footballer. Yes. Uh and you control just that one player. You have a career mode as that player. And he's called his Fly Ah. His name's Arlo, he's called his player. Arlo, Arlo. Which I quite like. Second Arlo as well has got a lowercase A to for variety. Which I really enjoyed. And it made me think of uh when John Niven, what did you just call his pub the John Niven? Yeah. I don't even think it was the John Niven. So I'm just gonna call my pub Robby Robby. But with a lower cast case R on the Robbie, because it really made me laugh. That is good. It would make you smile every time you said I'm going there. You wanna go to the go for a play at the Robbie Robby? Robbie Robby, yeah. Robbie Robby. Yeah. Robbie, do you want to get the bite the Robbie Robbie? Yeah, that would be good. So yeah, thanks for the big picture of Of your mustache is the pup sign? Uh, I think it would just be the words Robbie Robbie. Okay. Very nice. So no the just Robbie Robbie. Robbie Robbie. Okay, I'm going down Robbie Robbie. Okay. Uh people think you have a stutter. Yes. Right, Dan. Well, thank you for joining us at The Moon Underwater to create your dream pub here. And my dream pub. the same time. My second dream pub. Many dreams. None of them involving Louis Armstrong in shopping centres. No. Thank you to everyone who's listened over the last year and a half. Thanks for all our pub correspondence. Thank you to everyone who's come as a guest. Yes. Thank you to the one point eight million producers. Yeah. Thank you to them. But what I will say is, this isn't quite the end of the Moon Underwater, because we're gonna dust off that pub notice ball one final time. This week. Lovely. So we're not fully done. Yes. Really? Bit of an over the top which which uh listener is gonna get the last Is it Maybe. On that bombshell We'll go out on Not Bank with a wimper, thanks to Dan's comment there. Goodbye.