Reflecting on the Ringer's History

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Go to fando dot com slash predicts to sign up offered by Fando Prediction Markets LS a registered Futures commission merchant. eighteen plus restrictions apply See terms at fandal d. com slash predicts slash bonus dash offer. dash terms This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome, that's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a fifty page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks. Gemini and Chrome is here for it. Ready to make anything online makes sense? There's no place like Chrome. Check responses set up required compatibility and availability varies eighteen plus All right, Evergreen, summer Mailback, Craig Gorbecks here, our producer. sometometimes on the pod. Chris Ryan, CR The leegend I gave you no prep at all, none We have some listener mail bag questions Do you like when the no prep happens or you You want the prep. If you want us to provide a list, sometimes it's nice, but otherwise no, we can go can improvise it. Okay. This is from Gerard I want to nominate a new rewatchables category, the Danny McBride Award for Best Character Entrance Within a minute you understand exactly who this guy is, why he's a problem, and why the movie went up a level Citeria. Imediate, oh hell yeah for o no reaction. you cannot look away You know, everything you need to know about the character inststantly alerts you that you may have a who won the movie or Deian Waererss Award tender on your hands. Rick Bryright has been category name before. Yeah, he already has a category, but I don't mind this. Yeah. This is based on his introduction to this is the E, right? Well, I was thinking We just did Animal House and Bluto the first time you see him is a good intro, but there's really is an art to the entrance. O yeah, like Will Ferrell and wedding crashers coming down the stairs. I would say Alec Baldwin and Glen Gary is another one. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's some life to this one best ents, but I think we already have a McBride category so I could either move it or move entrance. Like what what's what does Mason Miller walk out to? Is it corn? It is corn. Yeah. Yeah. Oh like the Maro Rivera enters Sandman for entrance S Q enters Sandman, the closers is Yeah Yeah that's pretty good I had a couple ones that I liked from over the years that just the iconic ones from my favorite movies Reggie Hammond, first time you see for eight hours, you singing police Parker. In Boogy N? Oh yeah When he comes into the party and I forget what's on they therere playing, but it does like the Zoom in on him and it's like, Todd. Yeah, Parker Um, and then Lester Bangs was the other great one and almost famous. the first time he's an Ikey pop. Aen. reallyally hard to just come in. twenty five, thirty minutes into a movie and just take it over. When does Lector show up in Silasence That's another a half hour in twenty twenty five minutes in. I think this is a category.. It's at least a flex This is from Michael in Louisville Love the pod I'm getting married this fall My wife asked that we have our childhood priest perform the ceremony Imagine my surprise when I find out that this man was none other than Father Wayne Jenkins That's his name his name is Wayne Jenkins And then he writes in all caps Damn, I didn't know I was doing with super priest. We are gonna be experiencing the joys of the sacrament for a long fuckking topic, boy I didn't know we had fucking Dami and Karris over here There's some good little priestword right there. Wayne is like the actual Wayne, I think is up for parol soon Oh, really. It' easy in jail, yeah. Father Wayne Jenkins. Is that a good or a bad sign for the wedding? I think it's great. they're gonna have a happy marriage. Congratulations also. I hope at least five people attending the wedding are making Wayne Jenkins Yeah. It would be great if does anyone have any like reason why these two should not be wedd? They're like, Goddamn, I didn't know we were asking for approval Fuck brick U This is from Pete D He listens to all the rewatchable pods, thinks there's some trends that have emerged including He says one of my favorites is the periodic discussion about renaming DN Waders This comes up a few times a year when a Don candidate has an especially strong performance. it's like we could rencin and Pul, Baldwin, Glen Gary, Hartman and Soy Marry Kackax Murerer And then he writes, the discussion always goes something like this. Bill Maybe we should think about renaming the award after Character X, everyveryone else. Character X was great, but I don't think we can rename it. There's something about Deon. Bill Okay, I guess we'll keep it as the DI. And about three months later the exact same discussion occurs Um, In order of this I suggest a new conditional word called the We may need to rename the Dion Waiters Ad. No, never mind. For an actor who gives such a great performance, the rewatchables team pretends to reconsider an award then decides against it. That's good. It's a higher level than the typical Don reserved for only epic Dion performances. Um He keeps going It's like you're a Deon Waaderers Pro Bowler. Yeah, it's like maybe you've been Dion before like you've done too many like Walk in with is Dion in multiple films. I think sure. He's like that in dromance. He's like that in Ped. It's like a nomination Pete says You could call it the Deon Plus awward an homage to Kendall Roy's ingenious Lan Cruises pitch. Yeah. thought that was good. The Deon plus. I like that. It sounds like we're spinning it off into I don't know. I gotta check in on Deion. He's somebody who I imagine would have had a podcast by now Yeah whereere is he? Like Tererence Ross is breaking down news. likeike, where's Dan Frank M writes in, Hey gang I think Craig gets hottest take by saying you can cut the hitchhiker scene and there's something about Mary Sometimes he needs a shock collar. I checked with HR and we can't give you a shock. I also think this is a good opportunity for you to be like I don't think The Horblebeck scale is representative of you as a film fil. I want to address this. I think we should retire the Horblebeck scale because the purpose of the category is not to criticize good long movies, it's to celebrate good short movies. Yes. If I like a movie that's two hours and fifteen minutes, I don't want to have to like, feel forced It' like's been taking sh rip a sce. It's just like, I think' the goal. I think you could to appreciate a short movie. chime in when it's in the Horrbleback Hall of Fame. Sure. Yeah. We forgot to do it for Animal House. Yeah. I mean, it was Animal House, like hour hour forty five. But yeah, think if we're doing a gunkirk, I'm not gonna be like, yeah, you can cut the hey stuff 's the point of the's not m we' you to be flying around? Yeah. Do you want to retire the horrorbck scale? He It's like if something about Mary is two hours and ten minutes, but I like the movie, I don't think it's in the spirit of the category for me to feel Like I got to remove a seam. Yeah. However, I do think like seven minute abs, eight minute abs Not the funniest joke the world. I was fuckingarious Literally hot takes Colin Kay writes in, he's been thinking about Apex Mountain. And he decided most cities have a respective apex mountain that then that becomes the spiritual defining thing they're chasing. Like Chicago just wants it to be the mid nineties again so badly. Oh, like temporal apex mountain. So he listed a bunch of cities with what he thinks their apex mountain is. Okay San Francisco, who said twenty sixteen Well Well, it's not two thousand six. Okay, but like this they're lost two thousand It is going' like seventeen or fifteen Wait he talking about tech or is he talking about what it looks like in I'm just reading what he said. Okay just I mean I can't being R into the gate me too but I like There's a crum here where it's like, it's a kernel of saying like Actually, apex Mountain San Francisco would be late seventies, early eighties, right So that would have my argument would have been late seventies, like post dirdty Hirry buullet. Yeah and're heading into it's what where Zodiac kind of goes back to yeah. But I guess you could make a case like as Steph and the wors are taking off with the tech boom and the prices Yeah, I mean, it might not have been the best like San Francisco itself might not have been at its. Basic instinct is probably the happy medium between the two. for me, it's ninetyies San Francisco. We talked about that in basic instinct. I thought mid nineties San Francisco was lights out. Yeah. likeike I would pro say that. But you also can't say twenty fifteen, twenty because it wasn't even in San Francco, the warriors played oracle All right, so he's over for one Boston, two thousand four actually agree with this because it's socks. Socks, Patriots in full bloom Um bigig big bigig dig is done. Yeah. So we have Big dig took ten ten fucking years finished The city was transformed Um it just all of a sudden, and of course I had moved by then and every time I came back, I was like, how the fucked did We leave right before all the. thing is done so Jem can get back and forth from Charleston. R They never able to escape that North endnd robbery He has New York City nineteen ninety eight I don't know how came up with that one I ninety eight. It's a three nine eleven pre nine eleven. Yankees going strong. Yeah Nix though in the mix. Um, I personally would have gone mid nineties for New York for a variety of reasons the sports and just SNOs in a D decent spot in the late ninetight and else com back I mean, I like early two thousands just because of the music because you can't be at nine eleven at that point. I know but that can't be a Apex Mount. I'm not saying it's Apex mountain for like actual stuff. I just mean like and that's always when I was there, you know? So I would say late seventies for New York Um warriors all the shit that was going. Yeah warriors. but you had SNL in full Bloom. They're making all kinds of awesome movies there. The music scene has taken off Ridiculous. It's the center of the porn industry Sure. Pfessional wstling. We haven't haven't with our adult entertainment. Yeah. Yeah. It's I just feel like even though it was a little scummy and grimy in New York, it was just crushing it. Yeah, pre Trump. G to get a cab, Travis Bickles or driver, you know. Chicago ninety six. I have no notes on that That makes sense. It would be somewhere in the second Jordan Um I spent some time there in ' ninety eight. Everybody was super happy. Seattle, nineteen ninety three, he says. I like it Get in the Grunge, Sean Kamp Sonics are still there. Campbell Scott designing a super trains. is like Ken Griffy's about to show up. Early tech rumblings. Yeah I'll say Philly for last. He is Pittsburgh as nineteen seventy five P ster shirt Two most interesting ones He had Los Angeles nineteen fifty five Isn't that like LA confidential Yeah, I thought that was, I don't know why he had that. I would have said mid eighties for LA. Hollywood. Yeahah like Lakers, Hollywood. People moving here. Yeah it was like the coolest place there And then he has nineteen eighty three for Philly Well, that's sixers Phillies go to the World Series. Rocky Bal Boa, right? The Phillies have just won Well, they won in eighty, but they lost the Oriols in eighty three. But you're you're in the middle of your run. Yeah. Eagles are in the surp then it's after Broad Suit Boys, isn't it? Yeah yeah. sure. R three is out. Big five basketball popping off. see Yeahah, I was in kindergarten, so I don't like have a picture perfect number. My three seem good I had a couple ads. Hartford, nineteen eighty eight The SSPs there are starting to take off and they still have the whale. The whaleer. Oh my go. And then I was trying to think the apex mountain for Vegas And I think it's late nineties. Yeah the nineties. Thats before it became commercialized when it was still, there was a little bit underground. I would have loved to be there like the Mreen era that would have been. Oh yeah. Staying a cocktail which is too M green. I'm excited for feedback on that. and then to get. we have to ask what like so he's saying loy actual Just like where people because The reason it you choose a year to live in the city, what year would it be? I would love to live in Milaukee during like the Robin Yout era Not in the Dahmer era. No No, But it seemed like pony bottles of Miller were everywhere, you know? Because Boston definitely was two thousand four That was the single year you would have want to live in Bon Um Chris Arington wants to know, is there a movie you haven't done yet for reatchables because it's so unpeC, you worry about backlash And who would you want as co hosts on that pod So really Soul Man is apex mountain for this one Um But I'm not against doing it. Blazing' Saddles would be, I think, really hard to do. I don't know. I mean, Blazing Saddles was on Turner Classic movies last night. it's Still, I think regarded very well. What about revenge of the nerds? That was the other one I had. But I would do all three of those. So don I don't feel like there is an NPC. You'd have to go into like I mean, look it's incredibly difficult to talk about Woody Allen's filmography and not address like the elephant in the room with him. And I think a lot of those movies like are hard to talk about, but I still really love Annie Hall. Like I love to do Annie Hall There's a couple like the movies that probably aren't rewatchables, but like that Monica Bllucci movie and shit like that, we would never do. we would never do that. L we went for a dreamil Most rewatchable This is a great one. Mikeael wrote this. My seventy second rewatch of Fargo gave me an idea Peter Stormar's film TV characters have the weirdest resume of any actor in history These are some of the things his characters have done. Murdered Steve Bushemy with an axe and stuffed him in a woodhopper eaten by a dinosaur Got his ear bitten off by John Goodman Bruce will save the world from an asteroid swapped out Tom Cruz's eyeballs directed multiple actual snuff films and helped George Castanza move to Frogger without losing his high score Can any actor challenge this? We don't have that anymore, you know? No one's do inst. Honestly, incredible, incredible That's even without the snuff film, it's still he still probably has the best. I'm going to start thinking about this when we do like, especially nineties movies where I'm like, you know, like this guy's been in thirteen. like what were his jobs? Right. Yeah So I want to find out like what Cole Mee did besides being Cir, you know, That's a good one I had Madson Sliced off the ear and reservoir dogs at the cop buried the bride alive and kill Bill He unleashed a black mamba snake and kill Build two. He killed a horny hot female alien and species An beat up people with the baseball bat in Braska Pretty good resume. Not not even close to Stormar. Kind of one note though Stormmar's really riding all over the place. Stormar's replacing eyeballs, he's directing stnuff films. Yeah, He's woodsippering people to death. Becauseuse it's like the not quite leading man, but can be in every kind of movie as a side Yeah. And and it's gotta be something creative. Like Cruise is just the best at everything he does. L best bartender, best pilot, best spy pretty good David Foster Probably not the songwriter writes in U Givven the reatchables often features movies frequently aired on TV back in the day. I'd like to suggest a new flex category entitled Bakfast Club real Long Epection Award, alternatively the Die Hart two You be Kae, mr. Falcon a word. Alternatively, the Big Leaski find a stranger in the opposite Wd for did this movie have an epic profanity replacement when aired on TV. 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My favorite for this of all time was Freak the Freaking Diaz Brothers and Sarface Scarface on T andT was incredible There's two hundred and fifty squares in it or something. And it's also like mountains of cocaine. Did they actually show him doing it on the TV now they it I don't know if you have a favorite, I to replace. I'll just say this is a dying art, you know, like there's not a lot of T there's not a lot of like basic cable movie to show things that are actually racy at all. It's always like, no. My memory of this is actually like just like listening to the radio in my car and they had to like bleep out M and M. like all at fifty cent. Yeah, Robert Calvin writes in After listening to the Traffic Thunder episode, I think there should be an occasional category called The Joel Anderson, I prefer welcome homeome Rosco Jenkins a word for is this movie still a rewatchook? That was amazing Joel Rpedoped us. He said he loved Tropic Thunder and then turned out he didn't. There's all kind of a joy having that energy. in the pod where I think the three of us all like just sort of reeded the platform to Joel. Yeah we gave up Mm Potter I you're gonna love this one New flex category. The Michael Sarah, fucking pale, one hundred and ten pounds hairless, probably has a huge cock coooked out of his mind a word Excellence in portraying a fictionalized version of oneself. Yeah So it's basically like a self Die on waiters. Yeah He votes for Kiana Reeves and always be my mayabbe John Malkovich and B Joh Malkovich and Nil Patrick Harrison and Haraloldon Kumar. That's great. And then said it could be extended to fictionalized portrayals of others like is willing to subvert their reputation in movies So he suggested Anna Ferris taking down Cameron Diaz and Lestern Tration could be adjacent. Okay. I like without alling yourself. How you like the I Wonder if Julia Roberts in Oceanss twelve pretended to Julia Roberts actually counts. That's like Bob Sagett and entourage pretending to be like the biggest asshole in the world So I had Kareem and Airplane, M and M and Funny People is a good one. I thought everybody loved Raymond Bob Barker, Hppy Gilmore, Lance Armstrong, Dodgeball, Julie Roberts, Malkovinch, and then Johnny Chann and Rounders is a good one ark Oh yeah, Harker. Yeah Sorry, John, I don't remember I think that could be added to the flex though. I like it Um hundred ten pounds soaking wet probably at a huge car Sean Donnelly writes, you guys were talking about making a dramatic version of There's something about Mary There kind of already is one The nineteen eighty four Neo Noir film Against all odds In it. L.A oututlaws wide receiver Jeff Bridges, gangster, James Woods. and oututlaws Coach Alex Karris are obsessed with the stunning Rach Award and drop everything to travel to Mexico to win her Did you say LA oututlaw wide receiver Jet Yeah. Oh, Craig This movie is amazing. Well, this is also where the the Phil Collin song comes right? Oh yeah ye, which This has one of the great card now, right? Bridges plays like a washed up receiver. But yeah, these three people Um againgainst allls is a song for yeah He says it it's a sports film. But I feel like the Ferley Brothers were aware of it That's pretty interesting. It does get a little there's something about Maretth. Yeah. They're all like obsessed with her. Yeah I hadn't even thought about that movie in a long time It's great It was on a long time It's not good got I may never have actually seen the movie. It's just that in the music video for against all odds, It's just footage from the movie. and it's the whole story of the film Rachel Ward. There's a good car chase in that movie, right? Really good car chase. Rachel Ward throwing one hundred two. I don't know Rachel Ward. What is Rachel Ward from? You should get to know her, Craig.. Is that Taylor Hackford? Yeah, Okay Mike from Western Mass said at the end of Dave Movie that I'm ready to do the read Dave. Okay. I reallyally loveved that movie. When did you do Dave? And a long time ago Dob it. Yeah years ago. He says at the end, Wack This is inside for people love this movie, but how is Duayne, the Ving Rames character not wearing a sweater vest in the last shot Because there's a kitchen scene in the White House when Dave and Bing Rames are kind of they're talking, they're eating a sandwich and he says She should wear sweater vests. they look good on you. and Bing Ram's like, really? He's like, you could have brought that around. So he says that's a new category. The Dwayne Stevenson sweater vest missed opppportunity awward for a very small choice that would have made the moveie better I'm gonna veto this, but I like the spirit of it. You like why ve it? just becausecause you're like that I just think it would be too hard. Yeah they had to figure out But I like the idea of it. It would really would have been a good idea had Its loose threads. It's like you shouldn't tie a knot on that one Blaair Simes from Chicago says The reatchables is my favorite pod and the species episode is one of the best all timeer. What about the species awward For the thing no one notices or questions during the first few viewings, but then you see it and can't unsee it So he says for him It goes to the supposed evil alien plot to take over the world by breeding aliens with humans How's this supposed to work? He says Nasha Hendridge is half alien. kid would be quarter alien, then it'd be eighth alien and so on Eventually, human DNA is going to water down the alien DNA and you won't notice it. Humans down the road will just end up being three percent alien on their twenty three in me tests, like they're three percent Irish. Plus didn't those aliens send us to secret to unlimited energy as well as their DNA. they were good dudes. It's a decent point. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if the DNA would be strong enough that it wouldn't get watered down You know? Well, there's also the Hmrich is going around killing guys who are diabetic. you know, like it's like you basically like winow down the like ost human beings have some frailty, some flaw with them So then you're just talking about her breeding with like six guys after a while I like the idea I was trying to think of other examples where when you've seen a movie too many times and then you realize a plot has just been completely ruined, which basically is what's Age the worst or pickking nits for us, but that's That's a good one. It was the bad plan by the alien. Yeah, it's like there should be a special like, especially for ones that are like big movies for us. like the thing I noticed on the twelfth viewing of this movie You know. when it's like, why can't the aliens just come down to Eth in their natural form and just kill all the humans Yeah that could have been another move. R, R. Why did they need to look like a human and seduce a human? It's like couldn't they just Kill him, Zap them. Yeah Sounds Lambs is a good one for this when They just have Lecter at the top floor with like one security guard. And he's bring porkop lamb chops. Yeah. and just and he asked for a second dinner. and like, boy, that's weird. Like you see that enough times What's the one we have for heat for this Uh, I mean, there's a lot of things in heat where it's like Does this guy who's so disciplined really go back for Wingow, You know what I mean? Like He's he's like so he's free He's at the he's at the airport Kaiser says that we missed a huge plot point in No way O out. I'm glad people are listening to the library. I really likes No way Out I'd like to suggest you guys brand the did this movie need a better ending category and make it the Tom Ferrell single handandly lost the Cold War War. Oh yeah. Um which Cost her when when Gene Hackman's character It's like, I'll give you anything you want Why not just be like Oh, I controled the defense seecretary now. I own Gene Hackman Um And then that could be a sequel and He just felt like he blew the opportunity Im going to keep an eye on this. I don't know if it's a category, but I do like like Yeah, he actually would have been better off s just being like, oh, this is actually now better now Cld W le run this controlling it. Yeah, the sequel one way out Jason Peters says this is a great one. Not Philadelphia Eagles tackle Legend No Spin offff character you would green light for a new movie awward. A character so interesting You would watch a whole movie based on them and he mentions Baldwin and Glengary. Um But he came up with this because the Tom Cruise in Tropic Thunder couldould Less Grossman have carried a movie? I say no. That's kind of Yeah, That'd be tough for an hour and a half I did have a couple possibilities for this though Take them in the departed. That was That could have been out for a while. That could have been definitely been a sequel. Which one is Wal sure. what we talked about when we did Joss could have gone back, maybe even gone back all the way to World War II there My two favorites, Dino Stormar, second reference, Dino Vvelvet Eight mimet, eight millimeter prequel As he dives into the world of stnuff films. Yeah But then obviously the answer is Caruso and proof of life. We call it Stuff of Legends. wow. Stuff of L legends, the proof of life Sk. You know on another case. Pro's not in it. Maybe as a cameo. Maybe just calls in, but but yeah Carusa' doing a second. I saw a randomly saw like a Russell Crow press conference or podcast where he was P proof of life came up and he's like, My girlfriend at the time. Mg Royan and I was like Oh wow. he admitted that. Yeah. Oh my God That that was on front street. everybody knew that was happening. But but she was married they were like Abigail wants us to have a new category. Would this movie be better with Buffalo Bill or Little Bill get there, but think about it. I like it. It's like little You have a little Bill impression ready to go. I think Little Bill So I'm trying to think which one to do I'm sorry, my mind is't on What does he say? Sorry, my mind is't on the protection of the film U Derek Lady We talked about worst movie athletes, and he was outraged that we forgot about Matt Damon and legend of Bagger Vance. whichich Damon's talked about. He had to speed, learn how to play golf in like two weeks And his swing is like really, really bad But then we got a bigger email from Mike Montre In nineteen ninety eight, I was an extra in the movie for Love of the Game. Oh. We got fifty dollars a day. was November in the Bronx. It was cold Sam Rami obviously wanted jackets off to display late summer baseball. Brx natives retire of the request. Look closely. winter jackets are in the background Nights grew long and cold, extxtras grew impatient and John C. Riley couldn't catch her throw Couldn't throw the ball back to the pitcher at all. Costume was dealing. Riley was fucking up takes left and right extras had enough. it was cold, the jeers begin escalated into you fucking suck Riley. Riley had enough flipped out screaming at the extras. Let me do my fucking job couldouldn't do the job the next day is lighting double replaced him. catch scenes. Jesus. How is that not your winner for worst actor as an athlete? I would love to know which actor who had to play sports in a movie required the most training to actually be You know someomewhat believable on screen. One of my favorites for this is Rob Loe didn't know how to escape before Young Bud Really they did this five week ed session with him and then he actually got like that a great documentary. I would love to watch like Kevin Costner just has to go on the Hany project before Tin Cup just to learn how to play golf. He. Like I'm trying to think of what would be the thing what would be the athletic that you feel like you could immediately go do and like posibly do it on film right now. I mean, I think golf is easy because it doesn't require any like physical Pblem with physical is sture. Your swing always looks twenty percent more awkward and bad than you think it does. Yeah. because in your mind, you're like, ooy, I'm Kepptka And like And then you look at a video of yourself and you're like, I look like I'm playing left handed. What is happen? I think I could throw a fastball in a movie, belieievably. I was going say, I think I could do Riley's job. I mean, it would be hard for me to get down in a squat for catching now, but I felt pretty natural being behind the plate. I was a pitcher growing up, I think I can get away with it. You have to be pretty uncoordinated be able to just catch Kevin Costner for three years What about you? You don't think you could conduct an offense and like white man can't jump two on two It was basketball's hard. Basketball's hard basasketball is hard because people if especially if you play, your shots are shot. So I always had a little bit of an an Orthodox shot that would make it look like I didn't play, but I did play. Yeah. So it's almost like you're better off learearning from scratch. But Snipes is a good example of they he was a good athlete that they taught to play basketball to mix results. I was never a huge fan I think the toughest would be For me, it would be tennis because I' played tennis forever, but my serve's weird. So it look like I've never played tennis before. saw me You had to get a lighting playing ser. Yeah. Yeah, I never like bring it back. was a good one.ike I would love to see the training that went into filming challeng. Yes. I think an underrated one for this is a track and field movie. 'causeuse you have to see yourself running. Well, but to be like, if you're Steve Pfontaine You have to have like basically no part of your body is moving as you're running, but it has to seem like you're going fast I think it's really hard to do If they keep doing like weird live stunt things on Netflix, they should have crght up Race Leto now. to see who was like faster prefont dressed as with prefaine wigs This is a great one. It's from Charles How do you and Kyle Brant sleep at night Knowing you failed to choose the Storm Family portrait as the piece of memorability you'd keep from heart to Kill in nineteen ninety It's seen early in the movie right before Felicia Storm is brutally murdered during four P with Mason And before their son Sonny escapes C attached Penance, please do an episode on Deadly Ground So he sent a picture And this is the photo. I didn't notice it. I apologize. I know Kyle apologizes as well. This is amazing. I can't believe they did this. I'll tell you what you guys should do. Anyway, that's Sharon Stone, I think. To make up for this. You should get those made into t shirts and wear them the next time you and Kyle record. I feel like Kyle is crazy enough and there's no football right now that he's going to show up on a rewatchables with the Storm family portrait on there Um, but you should do it for like a really serious movie for like Deer Hunter Somewhere in the storm family Thomas Levy says how is this for a CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford. Hotest takeake buckle up CR Are we sure Daniel Day Lewis is in the acting version of James Harden? He's never appeared in a best picture film. He has zero appearances in any film listed in the AFI T top hundred. I mean, didn't Lincoln win best picture Yeah No, but It didn't. It did not Um He's never been an a fect. That's actually longong way to criticize Daniel D. Lewis. because Yes, like first of all, he's like unquestionably the best actor of his generation. Listen, I read an email. so that'm saying I I'm saying Daniel D Lewis by never being like the bad guy in conon air Daniel Day Lewis should have done one bad action movie where he's like Hans Gruber That would have just been amazing or done his version of Lector and Sounds the Lambs. Yes. List did Daniel Day Lewis need his training day. Is there another podcast that would compare Daniel Day Lewis to James Harden? No I just try to imagine if Dale T Los today was like so different. I love train and day. I'm gonna just remake it, but I'm Alonzso I love taking. I liked what Liam Neson did. It was more than What basketball player is Daniel D. Lewis Um, It's a tough one. It's somebody who won MVPs but was never run at. transform themselves. Yeah, because it's in some ways, it's like the only thing you do is win rings. So is it Robert Orey, you know? Is it Mike Trout No. J multiple NVPs but never never won the World Series I'm just saying by the by the logic I'm trying the question of like the best movie over year.. Steve Nash is good. Steve Nash is good. Yeah. Steve Nash is good. Tid two thousand sons' offense Or is somebody who's like a chameleon has their career changed? I don't know John Craig Howell said he just caught up to the live and Die in LA episode says you talked about whether prison phones during visits are tapped and recorded The answer is yes. I know this because my wife had an internship with the prosecutor's office during law school and was signinged to listen to some of them. they monitor Just in case the prisoners are dumb enough to dis discuss things they did, which they do and afrid she she heard still is used by them today NL because one of the prisoners told his visitor, Ohh man, that's H and L H andO man whole notother level as then something is really escalated. So they always say H andO because of these prison things that they heard. Okay. So apparently they do record them. Yeah I figured they did. I didn't know if they recorded LA County jail in nineteen. But yes This is a great one from Justin in Los Angeles. What about the Sharon Stone Fuck of the century Wd for excellence and craft As Michael Douglas tells us, a bic instinct Catherine Chamel is an otherworldly lg, not an all star or an NBA level, a singular sport defining level talent So what other deeply skilled movie characters are eligible He suggests Danny Ocean as a generational thief and machine as a world class sadist. multiple eight millimeter references. I really like that Vincent Lauria as a nine ball and stocker player in Car of muddy. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. But what else do we have for I think it almost has to be More obscure, right So this is like somebody who is overly competent at their specific job Is this like Kitel Yeah like a folk hero like level of like what they're good at. Kitel and Pulp. Yeah Oh yeah,. That's good. Yeah, That's good. I like that. I'm gonna keep an eye on this one Sonny Kay from Vancouver says, longtime fan been rewatching Miami Visa on streaming Us too Why didn't the actor who played Tubs become a bigger star do anything after Vice Good looking guy N quite as charismatic as Don Johnson, but held his own in multiple episodes, what held him back You probably know better than I would when happened to Fil. I never understood it. He liked music more T, right I thought he was total package, like handsome, funny. I thought he was the fucking a centy. action star. I don't really have an answer for this one. Maybe it was an asshsole. We've both been re watchatching season one though Yeah, I was thinking about we do give G the rewatchables audience a season one starter kit for episodes Which I think is the two part opening. sadly I can do this off top my head. the two part opening U Calaron's revenge, which we already did on Rewatch. Great McCarthy G McCarthy, definitely Glades I love Gades. you like Gades more than I do, but Gades does have people we've talked about on this pod The Golden Tangle episode is amazing U The Bruce Willis as a a domestic violence arms dealer Oh I recommend that. Oh my Godd, could not recommend that episode more highly Evan, which is no longer available on streaming because they end the show with BeGo by Peter Gabriel rest of. Must they cancel that one Great one, the last couple There's one when Crockett falls in love and it starts affecting his job and the tubs get beaten up And then I just watched Lombard recently, the last episode of season one and it's Dennis Farina playing the midnight run The guy Syidney have a creream soda to do some fucking thing basasically playing this wisecracking gangster And uh, I texted CR about this already During the episode, they play the entire song of Wire by YouTube, which is probably the Single bestest YouTu song of the eighties And they're just cranking you two During this chasing, I'm like, this is the most nineteen eighty five moment in my life. Did you say milk runun Milk runs another good one. And smugger's Bluues. And S smuker's Buues. Yeahes. so that would be the starter kit. We might have to force Craig to watch all this this summer You like all these eighties things though. I do. I love the eighties I also Heart of Darkness where Suzie Amos plays a young porn star in Miami and they break up an underground porn ring. Oh thats that's one of the early ones. Yeah Yeah. Everything leads to the third That's before almost. Yeah. And then the third episode of season two. which is ends with the Dire Straight song is the best one ro S I growow my hair out? shouldould I do should I give one shot at it Use it before you lose it, man. That's my attitude. I've thought about better. But there's such an awkward middle period I feel like before it starts to look good that you have to I don't know. I think shallow M is p way for the mullet again too. Yeah, but, you know, I'm not telling these shallow man. Steve W wants us to basically do an on screen smmoking Hall of Fame is a special episode. That's good. And wants us to have A mail bag episode of Best actor, best actress Girls, most passionate, worst ons screen cigarette that felt the best bestest film cigarette, just do like ten categories and go. You guys would know this better than us. I figured I could Marlborough never approached us Yeah So you ever really can we like why of all the things that advertise on podcasts? like would it be weird if we were like I wouldn't do it now, but I used to do it then. We're not conoting it. We're appreciating it He wants a he problem called one hundred more He recommends CR lookup on YouTube, the compilation of Match strikes from the Long Goodbye He says Elliot Gold is the Michael Jordan of Strike anywhere else. If we did this, you guys would have to smoke cigaretes during the taping You said you did or didn't have one in twenty twenty six they w. I won two weeks ago We're recording this before Memorial Day Weekend and very strong possibility this weekend This is an amazing one from James McRrooy Probably not the same James McARe The Sasha Jenkins Award gets me every time That's for the awward where we can't figure out why the actor didn't become a bigger star And we've been doing this what for four years? Tince days, yeah. His name is actually Sasha Jensen You guys getting it wrong for so long really hits the point because he should have been bigger than he was. We've been saying the wrong name the entire time. Yeah. I think we keep it. I think it's funnier that it's As Sasha Jakenss or maybe call it the Sasha Jakens Jensenon word. I don't know. No think Sasha Jensen is just like goddamnit guys. It's like how you can't even get my fucking name right Yeah, so this whole time we've had the wrong name Adam from Westort. says than you for so prominently featuring Crisp's Ponytail in the kindergarten cop episode I saw it when I was six I spent the remainder of my childhood completely terrified of any man with a ponytail Do you think kindergarten cop was directly responsible the sharp drop in popularity of long hair for men in the nineteen nineties I' no to say no because of Grunge Long hair actually became a thing, but I do think ponytails went away in the nineties and that might have been a reason. I also remember the ponytail from the guy in Goodwool hunting being like, you don't you don't want a ponytail. Yeah. Sagal ponytail for a long time, right? Sure. He also might have helped kill it. Yeah, because people hate Seagal Aavi from Staten Island says, I've known how to stake We're all very well aware of Bill's correct views on the Kay Diane Keaton character and the Godfather Avi from Staten Island wrote that, huh? Just read know from every make up a mailbag. Well, the argument was always Dian King great actress Kay Adams bad character poorly writt I stand by it for the rest of my life. Kay Adams was last just about say that ever M made Aams. Kay Aams Kill reallyly ownam. That's I did not know that. Yeah. That's we've talked about this. That's where K Adams I think got her name because her name's not actually K Adams. The sports herself after Michael Corleone's wife Adams isn't her real name. And you think she watched the Godfather? I don't know. Maybe she liked cams I didn't know any of this. Yeah. Holy shit So Avy says, I'd like to take I'd like to go one step further and suggest Michael should have had Kate killed for aborting his son Michel had his own brother killed for being stupid and putting his family's lives in danger No one assarm. Okay who in his own eyes actually murdered his own son should have at least been sentenced to what happened to Frereda It takes tooot pretty retrograde. You take But essentially th that he kills Fredo, M of his kids, that was Bridge too far for him. Yeah A'fraid'll betray the family Freredo was so weak Look we all have stage names. I just get I'm like, ding, what our names have been? You could have start when you became just been Michael Corleone. Yeah. Craig Corleone. Yeah placeays. C have been Craig Beck Just got rid of the horr. Yeah, I know. the horl's not great. I like the whorrl works for you now though. Yeah I guess. For those who can pronounce it Matt Larkin Another Dan Waders question. He thinks the all time Dan Waders performance is Al Baldwin and Glen Gary Think about it with no warning, breezes in partway through the movie for a single scene Whoever's alls lines in an epic monologue absolutely cooks and dresses down a room of leegends. Yeah. It's a pinch hit grand slam. Shit's all over Jack Lemon. s prettytty good. The one scene De on Waaders is like a special catey. It's also like that one is specifically Mammet writing it for Baldwin is pretty nuts. Yeah. Baldwin's whole career is kind of De on Waaders. Everything he's in. he's I mean, thirty Rock he is amazing. and it I feel like it hasn't really lived on in a way that other huge shows can have decided they didn't like outb now thirty rocks You think goes. I think people have turned on out Bald. He is amazing in Thirty Rocks They give it's like an all time character If he if he does the Gene Hackman and just leaves in twenty twelve and we never see him again we're talking about him revend He's nowere I mean, like I think that there are other reasons why people turn on Al Baldin That's what I'm saying. Yeah Hans says thanks for all the las Huge fan of the show hasas a new idea for a flex category. It's the Sharon Stone going going Gone Award pointint in a movie where it actually goes from something you believe could happen to suspending all belief and then just sitting back and enjoying the ride. An example Die hard when John McCuain jumps off the exploding roof for the fire hose. Yes. loosely tied to his mid section. you're like, all right, I'm just gonna to ride with. So this is a variation on the Dan Campbell the tanks showing up in animal. I think this is more. so the reason he came up with this in honor of Sharon Stone, because she was on my podcast once me an interview that she hit a home run in Dodger Stadium. To his credit, build an impress her. He just sat back and enjoyed the fact he was interviewing Sharon Fucking Stone She did say remember her saying that? Now after I get the email I did, I didn't challenge it. You didn't challenge her when she was like, I had a home run at a major leeague baseball station. Apparently not. I guess I wouldn't either No, as a smart play. Biness decision But I like the shred stone going going on. That would be great if you was like, was it the swing of the century? U S wants us to do the Robert Duval, Lieutenant Colonel Kilgore Surf Session Award for the character who loves her hobby so much They do it in the most unusual circumstananceces possible and he suggests leadead bad guy in die hardard two doing naked tai Chi. Yeah. and then Finch practicing putting in American Pie and Apollo Creed's coach playing chess and we're a roller girl keeping her roller skates on I don't know, I appreciate the u the theory. All right A couple more here, quick Travis. This is really good. Vincent Hannah brings Cortman' character the are drops off in Ngurney and just starts ordering everyone around I need a trauma surgeon and a vascular surgeon. Shes cut the band ar under her arm Why did nobody tell him to shut the fuck up and get to the waiting room like what happens to everybody else he's a cop U Luke Skywalker attends the preflight meeting before the Death Star one, then starts talking about the size of rats on the home planet. Why did nobody turn around and ask him Excuse me, who the fuckking here? This incredible Alliance. There is something here. Yeah. Vincent Hannon walking into a N YR room of irrational confidence. I don't know U Last email from Jeff K from New Jersey Love the pod I've listened to just about every episode since the beginning of my buddy and I came to see you do the Creed live show in Philly. Yesterday I attended daughter's elementary school production of Charlotte's Web It was as boring as you could imagine. My daughter is small part My mind began to wander. After a few minutes, I began thinking about what rewatchable awards I would give to the kids in the play. Oh shit. And who won the movie to different kids? And it got me thinking, have you everied applied rewatchables categories to other aspects of your life when I gave the Dianne Waters award to one of the kids, regardless. thans for helping me get through it It is interesting in the concept of just applying the rewatchables other parts of your life, like at a party, like you just went to a wedding at Heyz. Yeah, right. Who won the Don Waiters Award at Heyifitz's wedding? There was a guy who hit like this really awesome dance right as Jump Around came on, Really? And I'll never forget it. What was Hyifzist like Mostly classics or more new stuff or what was it? It was a DJ DJJ who did a lot of blending So you could go from Abba to jump around to shout. It was all over. It was good. Who is the champion of the shout dancing at his wedding? Anybody we would know Nobody you would know, but Hivez Hivez does a good job. Hivez has, um water people around the wedding where every like half hour he has people come and bring him water just to check in and make sure he's staying he's staying level. He had hydration experts? Yes. He has hydration assistants that are always like Its been a half an hour, I'm going to make sure hy itst water Wow, that's really smart. Yeah. My wife and I recently were going through all the trips we had done since we had moved to LA. And I realized I was doing what's Age the best, What's Age the worst with them. You know, like where I was just like, actually that That experience was greater, that restaurant was greater It was amazing when the cat sat next to us in Croatia but then like That was actually D Brovnik sucked or whatever. like it was it was fun Do you wish you had kept more notes of things that happened to you over the years so you could remember the details better? Yeah, you journaling, essentially. tried I try it every once in a while and I find that like my journal entries are just too boring. They're just like went to work, did a podcast, came home, watched a movie. like, you know, it's just it's just not like when you read journals of people who are like fighting in this Bish Civil War. You You could do the reatchables categories for the first ten years of the ringer who's the de on. That's interesting. We are heading up on the It's probably just was it june first We just passed. Was that one to us My biggest memory of the first actual day of the Ringer is Did Mallory break Seaan's shoulder or vice versa? Somebody Mallory huged S and knocked her shoulder out of No it was so I think someone hugged Mall and she like rib or like something with her shoulder or rib. Yeah. It was I think it was her fault though. Yeah. She was overhugging somebody and cracked her own rib. Jesus. Yeah. Okay. That was at a big bar celebrated in the first day of the ringer. Yeah. She's like Yeah that was good. The other thing I remember Muhammad Ali died. Oh yeah, right around then The other thing I remember Maybe it was the next day we had a fourth of July thing and there was some Somebody got traded or Friday or something and we all had to start working at the july fourth thing. There was the July the biggest news bomb in Ringer history. The Karyirving trade. I think well, the first What I have like a clear, clear memory of is Prince Bowie and Muhammad Ali all dying like kind of in a cluster around each other. But I could be getting that wrong. Well, but I remember that being like, I think Muhammad Ali news broke at like midnight. I thought it was the Kai Irving. It we were actually prepared to handle We were all together and then the Kaairi Irving trade happened and we just like A month after the ringer started, Durant sign with the wyres, I think julyieth twenty six, july twenty sixteen. big one. Anthony Davis that happened on of was it the Kawi thing happened on a Friday night Remember waiting that was the earthquake And it was the same day as the earthquake. Yeah, that was a good one. E Luca was a Saturday night, I think, or a Friday night. Yeah, I was at Long Lgs. Yeah got out and I was like, h shit. Is that true? You the phone off I was just in the movie theater and when walked out, it was like Lua got traed. No way, L long Lgs was when Trump got shut. L Lua was Can't remember what happened? Wh I was in a movie It was like January, February. I was seeing the movie companion And when I came out, Luca had been traded. Yeah. Yeah, when we started the ringer, I don't think the pats had won the Super Bowl that year, but it was still Patriots were in control of football Warriors were winning seventy three, but then lost the finals to to twenty sixteen is one of the craziest years in sports. cub country. The Cubs had the Wld series They eighteen in in game or whatever. The two biggest musicians we had were Dell and Kanye The summer, that TV summer was Thrones, but I also think Stranger Things premiered that su.ranger thingsings premiered. It was the it was the twenty three comeback was twenty sixteen season. I think it was twenty seventeen when the Super Bowl was played, but that was the twenty sixteen season Honestly, we won so many Sper Bowls I can't remember the years. You N see Villanova was a national champion that year with like the back to back buuzzer beater. the the Jay Wright the what do you say Bang he didn't say anything. He just he just he just like walked walked it off, right? Yeah. And then Sal and I lost our parlay of. Hillary Clinton to win the presidency with the pats to win the AC. Oh I remember that that Huge bet And the pats were the pats in late October had like a six game lead. What were Hillary's odds Hillary, even two days before, we could have hedgeed with Trump at plus five hundred and we decided not to and rot it out. So that was a tough loss And then we lost on the Warriors was the other one twenty sixteen.. We had them. we could have hedged after game four reaman got suspended. really was like It was a crazy year That's the seventy three three game season, right? Yeah. Yeah. unfortunately. That's one of the craziest years of my lifetime, just in general of just things happening. And I don't know is Licester one Oh shit. It was the craziest year of the twenty first century in sports. Also, I had a show that was on HB every week and then it got canceled that happened in twenty sixteen. And that's when you like couldn't see for three weeks, remember Your contact thing was was longer than that. Yeah. Do you know that story? No Um Couldn't see And I thought it was stressed from the ringer and my HBO. Like everything was blurry. Like we would have the teleprompter and I couldn't see it. And I was like and I was getting these huge headaches and I thought I had like a brain tumor And I actually did have skin cancer, which was a separate thing that I they had to remove from my forehead. But um I couldouldn't seen it turned out when you hit your mid forties Your eyesight can shift sometimes if you have bad eyesight and get better. Yeah. Oh whoa. So my contacts, which were like minus elevens. prescription went down to like minus nine and a half. It improves. Yeah. That's crazy. I was constantly doing this and I couldn't I couldn't see in focus. and I was like, I'm fucking dying. What And that happened to me as I'm trying to do the ringer and the HBO show. And I thought I was having like a mental breakdown. And it was just my contacts were too strong So a little cautionary tale out there for everybody. Just get your eyes checked. Yeah If you have an HBO show, make sure your eyes are checked. Well, I went to the doctor and he's like, Ohh yeah, this happens to everybody in their mid forties. He's like, Well, nobody fucking told me that. That my contacts would go from minin. Not yet My only thing is getting worse. Your ass's getting worse? I Well, I think also 's been ten years of like kind of looking at my phone like this and now it's like, I need like, I mean, I have readers, but any progressive lunes and stuff. Yeah, I've just I won't wear reading glasses so I just can't see. Even if you can see in the when I'm doing the mailbag, I'm like I've just learned how to live with it. What what we do in the rewatch piece. We just we just string it together. That's why it's been Sasha Jenkins That's why you were like Tim Masterson. Sasha Jensen must be so fucking mad at us just doing Sasha Jenkins over and over again All right, Thankks Sar. Thanks for. Thanks, Gal