Final Thoughts on From Hell Movies

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I was listening to the mailbag episode of this very podcast. Oh my God. And there was a gentleman who had a grievance with you and me, Bill. And then in the wake of that grievance Chris Ryan had a solution to the grievance and we even have the clip. If you wouldn't mind Craig Horback, play the clip to remind the listeners. How do you and Kyle Brant sleep at night Knowing you failed to choose the Storm Family portrait as the piece of memorability you'd keep from heart to kill in nineteen ninety It's seen early in the movie right before Felicia Storm was brutally murdered during four P Mason and before their suun Sunny escapes C attached Penentence, please do an episode on Deadly Ground So he sent a picture And this is the st. I didn't notice it. I apologize. I know Kyle apologizes as well This is amazing. I can't believe they did this. I'll tell you what you guys should do. that's Sharon Stone, I think. To make up for this. Oh You should get those made into t shirts and wear them the next time you. Oh. enough and there's no football right now that he's gonna to show up on our rewatchables with the Storm family portrait on there. Yeah appreciate the feedback. We listen, we're always trying to pay attention anytime I can make the show better And ladies and gentlemen, I'm thrilled to tell you We gotem. We gotem. We gotem. We got Felicia, rest in peace We got the unironically named Sunny Storm and we got Mason Storm who is mean mugging the artist who is painting a family portrait. Yeah. You just love to see it. And guys, I got them coming your way too. I'm so God This It's also Mason Storm watching himself commit to foreplay with his wife, you know It's a stunning metatexual commentary on family and sexuality in it. And now you have it as a t shirt. It's a t shirt. This is a six person pod. Here it is guys. So they're gonna be joining us for Pacific Heights. amaz the storm.' talk real estate lot We got it. So is that supposed to be Sharon Stone? No, it's Felicia Storm. I don't think it's Sharon Storm. great looking wife who got shotgun to death in the first acts Unbelievable stuff, Kyle. Thank you. It's gonna be hard for me to concent straight up the podcast. I know. And ye imagine And yet Pacific Heights is coming up next It's the rewatchables presented by Fandou predicts. You can predict the summer soccer showcase withith Fando Predicts From the opening game to the final whistle, stay locked in Now for your twenty five dollars bonus on Fando Predicts, go to fando.ot com slash predicts to sign up offered by Fando Prediction Markets LSA a registered Futures commissioned merchant eighteen plus restrictions apply terms at fandal. com slash predicts slash bonus dash offer. All right, guys, I don't know if it's from Hell mononth or from Hell summer. We'll see, this might run in July, soR for all we know. the USA might be in the final four by the time happen. S. But I told Kyle Brantth the premise. I told him some of the movies And he basically looked at me and he said when Pacific Heights is ready. Yes. I'm there. Why? What is it about this movie Well, Bill, I don't know whether you realize this or not, you referenced this movie over the years on this pod here and there. just connected to Keaton, connected to this, that it'll come up. And every time you do, I was like, o, it'd be great to do a Pacific Heights pod And then recently, you were listing the movies for for hell mononth And the second you said Pacific Heights, Siar goes, ooh, that's the one I want to do. because of course, he's a man of taste And I think for me it's just The rare rare Zillow thriller, you don't see a lot in that genre. And I remember it making a big impression on me as a kid Despite having no knowledge of real estate law or renters rights, and I think it's because it was fully evil Michael Keaton. immmediately in the wake of Batman, he decides to do Dark money pit And I just remember thinking that was so cool. And I love this movie. And I don't know how big the audience is Every time it hits for me and the rewatch was great. This is a crazy one that was on cable constantly. When I turned this on to rewatch it, I was like, I kind of don't need to do this. I have this movie committed to memory. I remember so many nuances of Keaton's performance specifically. Yeah. Who's kind of in this movie like Hannibal Lecter.ere wereere you gonna play with a razor bllade during this pot or no.ust kind of moving around Rachers out in the house for But uh You know, this one has been kind of lost to history a little bit. I don't even know It goes in and out of streaming services. It's not constantly on. I don't think it's had any kind of like critical real evaluation, but it is a rollicking. You know, what is it a hundred minute long Tro ride Tant from hell New York Times described it as an eviction thriller. Yeah., whichich I think might be the only one of its kind. I saw this in the theater. m It's a great date movie. It's both scary and not scary at all I watched it with my wife this weekend She loved it. It's incredibly fun to make fun of Drake Goodman played by Matthew M'deine who we'll get into with a lot of thoughts, but Some stuff I like tremendous Sancisco movie. We talked about this during the basasic Instinct Pod. This like early nineties San Francisco Great job. see Alcatraz at one point It's Po Is that what it is? Yeah, theyo Pottero It's Trero Hill Prero my God. corner of nineteenth in Texas, in Pacific Heights Great San Francisco movie It's right right as this from hell thing has taken off. We talked about the peaks ninety two, but Fatal attraction lays the tea leaves for something like this And then as Kot pointed out I a tremendous I learen something movie Mhm. I didn't know anything about tenant rights, evictions, what the laws were. Yeah. What I could get away with when I was a tenant someday Once you're in, you're in, man. This is like the mainess of the movie. Did they take money from you, deposit? Nope? Well, you're still in. You're good. knock yourself out I think California has more lenient tenant rights than other states, but I did later in my life, like when I was in my late teens, early twenties I lived in a house in Boston where the landlord died and we just stopped paying rent Wow for like a full year. and then the widow was like What's up with you guys?ike you haven't pa rent in a year and we were like, well, nobody asked. you know? And but it was like there was there was a whole process where it was like, It was going to be impossible to get us out And that widow was bankrupted because these brat kids didn't pay her dead husbands a rent. Jesus CR. just just skating. no big deal. That's like better than illegal cable. That's incredible. Really? free rent. To that point though, like when I watch it now as an adult, what freaks me out is I'm not afraid of Freddy Kruger. I'm not afraid of going in a dark basement terrified of systems that I can't navigate and that the teeth of bureaucracy sink in, whether it's HOA IRS, whatever it is getting its teeth into me and I can't protect my family, especially since In this movie, the couple, they throw it all in on this house, like the great American dream. This is our future. It's an investment. And it's being taken from them Really relatable and very, very scary in a way that like a slasher movie is not. And also, there's very few movies that shape your perspective completely You could be on the Carter Hay side or you could be on the Modin and Mon and Griffiths side. There are people who are on the Carter Hay side. whooa, just like I don't have enough money to pull off rent in this place, but I'm in and I'm just going to f like that's like the worst case scenario, right? This is like a pretty evil guy But there's been I remember like we when I lived in Charlestown, we had a really, really huge party and got in trouble with the landlord And I did kind of be like No what? what's he gonna do I got six months left at least out there for Pacific Heights there's a whole process here. We worked it out with the landlord, but You know, you kind of put the chest out. It's like, you think you're better than me? Yeah. We can't have a body And what's nuts is that There's that moment when after after Carter Hayes gets beat up and the cop comes. And the cop holds like a legal class right there on the sidewalk And where where Drake is like, he's got no right to be here. And the cop' like When he's in, he's got rights. Yeah. and he's just schooling Modin. Get a lawyer, kid. That's the crux of the movie. And by the way, Modine when we get to the over acting award, like Modine might D after him And considering the fact that he's going up against Keaton here who's just like throwing one hundred and three He's Ms Russki at the end of this game. Yeah, like it's Oh Ms Rescy reference. I watched I saw him live on Friday.ame. you went to thatame? Yeah. was wasase one hitter. It was amazing. Yeah my God K, when you, what happened after you left the real world of Chicago? Did you have a place to go or did you have to move back home No, I almost immediately moved to Franklin Avenue at the base of Runan Canyon, like by the magic hotel. Like right there I got apartment in Lbr. Yeah,ah, I like that. Yeah. I got my first apartment, had a roommate. It was four thousandteen hundred dollars a month. I paid seven hundred doars a month and I lived there for like a couple of years.causeuse you could have done the Carter Hayes on the real world. Yeah. It'd be like, all right, let's move out there. It's like, is it I don't know.ry my stuff's here, is it movef out day? Me and her Nisea are just gonna to stay for a while. We've been here for four months and we're going to get Tanya to stay through. we're just gonna to keep finding out what happens. We stopp being polite. Itreat idea.. I was kind of thinking that you know there was their story going around about Carl Anthony Towns when got traded from the Timple Wolves was like, they gave me ten minutes to pack up like nine years of stuff Yeah was like There would be a whole new Pacific Heights twist peopleople moving into athletes' houses after they just got traded and being like, I'm not le evenving. But you're like Cats Cat squatter sure. Yeah what if catchress never left Minnesota? That's right. It' like Nah. I'm good Yeah, does J Den say like I know the trade legally happened. Craig, do you have a terrible tenant story? When I lived in Brooklyn, a year after college, we had a true slum lord. L our place was a complete piece of shit and we eventually stopped paying rent and realized there's nothing this guy can do. So we didn't pay rent for probably the last three months. Did he do anything to harass you back? He threatened us and we said like, we'll get a lawyer and he never responded. We never saw the guy in person. We went to his office. It was always closed every time we came by. So we just stopped paying. This is what happened. But that's New York. I think in like Florida and Texas, it's a lot harder for the tenants The other weird thing about this movie is I think it's a one on one becausecauseuse you think like there's been seventy five. We did hand the Rcks of crradle You seventy five versions of that movie with the Nanny comes in. Oh, she's going try to rope in the dead and But all the the mistress from hell, that's a that's Remember another tenant or eviction from hell? Well this could be I mean so it would be so fun to remake this for Airbnb now Yeah, you know, to be like, oh yeah, you know, because like they've made some Airbnb horror movies like the, um I think it was the rental from a couple years ago with Dave Franco Oh, I kind of likeked that movie too. And he directed that. But they haven't made a I I Airbnb my my house during the World Cup and now the guy won't leave. Like that's that's sitting right there. And he's with seven people from Scotland. They keep singing about John McDann. they just keep singing songs of pouring beer at each other U This was another thing I loveved about this movie that for some reason makes me think of Kyle Braant every time I see this Opening credits from eighties or ninetine days, it starts out. James G. Robinson presents. Sure. I don't know who that is. but it just sounded there's a certain wayight and I just was disappointed that M mustauffa Achive got involved. This isol O of the I think one of the last Morgan Creek movies. I can't remember Yeah for this Joe Roth was a part of this. This was had a lot of hitters And it's worth say, it's Keaton's first movie after Batman. Yeah, let's dorazysucking awesome. First movie after Batman. We talked about him in the past. I loved him in the eighties from fromr the Letterman appearances, then Night shift, which we did with Billy Blaze Shiny dangerously gung ho U Beetlejuice. He's a top five letterman guest. There's a couple of misses in there. Can and sober is there Um Batman in eighty nine And it was like watching like one of your college buddies just become one of the biggest stars in the world. It's like, really Michael Katon's gonna to be batman. like the closest thing we would have today would be Pratt, right? Like How't even But Prat doesn't have like a I saw him on Letterman a hundred thousand times. Like it was. It'd be like if Peter Schrager became Batman By the way, Peter Stringer might be Batman. He's in New York. He's right there, He's tough, he's tall. Bill, I'm hearing a lot of things from the guys in Gotham. They're very excited about RV Dad's chances as attorney genereral I talk to the penguin Bill. his guys love him. They are ready to go to war for him for G. D And you know what? The cold weather is not a problem for the penguin. We're here. And I'll tell you another thing, if the penguin hadn't g gotten right there, Sea McVigh was ready to take him I'm glad you bring up McVigh. I haven't mentioned inty seconds. Did you know I'm friends him when I was at his wedding? He's basically the riddler in disguise.. Peter, you're great. We love. I know you listenway Batman makes Keaton a massive massive star. It goes from a wait, why the fuck is this guy Batman to? He was actually a great Batman Because of the mouth. Yes. The mouth with the mask looked great. He did the job. he pulled it off What's your next move? It's going to be an eviction thriller actually with Matthew Modid and Melan Griffith. So I couldn't find this in the research. Yeah. Do you guys because there's a phenomenon of like, this is happened to Jennifer Lawrence when she was in hunger Games And then the first thing that comes out is a horror movie that she had shot like three years previous and they're like from the star of the hunger games. I like I bet she would have paid anything to have that flush down the toilet Was Pacific Height something that he agreed to previously So was move. I'm pivoting. Career man Cer move of I want to be a little bit evil. But the thing is like, Actors love going evil. This is the best part of the movie. You don't want the Mudine part of this movie. You want You want the keep part, right? Well, Chris, the thing the same thing happened. Chris Hemsworth in a terrible Red Dawn remake came out after he was Thor. R and they brought that out. But listen, I have a take H hardcorn too l firstcorn.ike I didn't realize that thought wow this far that. Go ahead it Carter Hayes is Bruce Wayne if he had never gotten the money And I think it's like Thomas and Martha get killed and he turns to crime. All the whenoney he goes to charity He's cunning, he's dashing, He's brilliant. He likes the blonde women. Let's be honest, there is like a very cheeky moment with that black pors showe where he clicks the thing and that's like that's the fucking bat moobile likeike in the driveway. That is exactly it. He drives that fancy Mercedes at the end. That's like the Wayne family car. If Bruce Wayne had never gotten the money, he's Carter Hayse When he's the trying to take on that rich widow at the end. He's rolling around. He's got the V nextX sweater on. He definitely looks like Bruce Wayne at the golf cllub. I've said this in previous pods and it sounds nuts, but Hanks and Keaton were deadlocked for years and years. They were Mahomes and Josh Allen basically. And And Keaton was winning in nineteen ninety Batman was bigger than anything Hanks did U They were they even probably going for the same parts where you could have flipped them in different movies And by the time we get to Pacific Heights, this movie was a hit Um, and Hanks has bonfire of the Vanity' basically the same year that's a bomb. Yes And then Melanie Griffith. Yeah. And then the next year flips and Hanks goes on his Hanks run I the thing I loved about Keaton is I like him more when he's like this guy or Jackie Brown. because he could also be the nightshift guy but you can't be the nights shift guy for twenty years, right? Night shift, guys, like a five be year shflip I liked when there's like a little darkness to Keat Yeah. and I think being part of an ensemble or being part of a larger cast rather being like the only person kind's helpful for him. paper he's pretty good in. I know that you don't like that movie, but yeah otlight. Yeah in sppotlight' a good example. You know what happened in sppotlight They do ese guys loose. I missed that. Yeah Lebvenary. Don't you call me ladies? You know what's underrated I found this out this weekend because it came up on YouTube. An underrated accent in spotlight is tooucci What's he doing in that? It's like Boston, but I maybe went out of state for school. Yeah and came back. I went to Tennessee. Yeah. came back We're going to go a lot into some of the interviews Matthew ModDine has given over the years because he he's really a one on one Honestly a threat to listen this podcast and send some angry tweets. I just w want to say I love Matthew Modin I love Matew. Congratulations on the Kicks and the Ns, one of my favorite movies. VisionQuest we love. We already did Vision Quest. And he's back. Stranger Th things. He had a huge run Stanger things. personally. I'm in on Mod Dine. also partart He does this part very well. Right. Well, we're gonna to get to that. H the other way. I don't give a shit what Modin says. When he turns off those utilities and does that victory dance, cringe, cringe. Modi and you can tweet anything you want. Wow right happ me. Modine said about Kle, I've been talking to Modin and he's so excited about some of the stranger things spitoffs. ye Modin said about Michael Keaton in one of the many interviews he's given over the years Michael iss a charming and witty man Playing that character may have been uncomfortable for him. It was so against hype I'm not sure what he did while not on set. He just on Batman, it was a ginormous success. So I'd see him on the set and we'd do our work. and then he disappeared like Bruce Wayne Hm Ke was just in and out Modine's, Hey you wan to watch the next game tonight? No, that I'm going to dinner And that was it. D didnn't feel like there was a lot of love in general on this set. but yeah, Keaten after this it gets gets a little rocky Like he does bat me in the second one with Michelle Peiffer. Yes And then I don't know. it's it gets a little rocky for a couple years. IMDB wise and then H Chris, do you like Batman Rurns I think I'm not the biggest Burton Batman guy. I think the first one's huge for me just because of like seeing the theater and the events of it all, but I think it just kind of pales in comparison to the Nor Yeah. I don't care for it very much. I just don't the penguin thing and all that. I just don't think it's very good. And then the Schumacher ones came in and destroyed it. Batman returns, I don't really like to your point, Bill, L We're talking apex mountain left and right. likeike this is like the definition of it for Keaton And Melana Griffith, this is kind of the tail in for her as a leading actress in a movie. We go from body Double, something Wild, working girl And then she does Pacific Heights, bonfire, the vanities this share. and then Thats She really paid for bonfire of the Banities in a way that really t She was the one Yeah. Yeah, and Willis didn't either. Yeah Palma did that. This was the last Stampfer and I gott to say she's miscast in this movie, but I still like that she's in the movie. It's a miscasting that I actually really enjoy I don't think she's the right person for the movie and I never really bought her Modine, but I think that's one of the reasons I like the movie Kyle Even last night, my wife and I were talking about her, we were like, would these two be together There's a lot ofense. I was so this is my favorite part about this movie. Sometimes we'll watch these films that are set in like the early nineties up up until like maybe turn of the century And you're like,h, felt like all this stuff would be so different now because of technology. but There's something perfect about a horse instruct a horse riding instructor and a kite maker. like Let's make it work. You want to throw seven hundred fifty down on a Victorian? You know, like I don't know like how would people vet each other back then? How long did you date, you know, but like they're just two kids like to fuck trying to make it honest, you know? Like it's just I had this for later, like, did he feel like the kites were gonna take off in the nine days? Dude. I mean it's like South Korea's going nuts right now Listen, I have it on unanswerable questions. It's like, does he make fucking kites for a living? He does.' like luxury kite maker. Right now it would be like some douchebag you went to high school with on Facebook and he's like, bit of personal news, new endeavor, starting a kite company, big things coming. We thinking IPO in spring of twenty eight Early investors, if anyone wants to get into of my kite company. So she's a horse instructor with a bad name name kites. Heard her name. Yeah Yeah quest an accident, we didn't get to save for some reason, even though Ten minutes of backstory. Adam's doctor couldn't work. R Daddy But maybe get an apartment. You're not you're not even married. like the big swing for the Victorian it's just an apartment would be fine, right? Maybe you guys get the studio. That's the other weird thing about the relationship is like they They're filling out the application. It's marital status. they look at each other like single It's like they don't want to really get married, but somehow they went all in on this giant Victorian anyway. Yeah. And she says she's pregnant at one point. And he doesn't even seem that excited He just says like, congratulations. Like she just got promoted at work. It's like, did your kid do fuck face I have a lot of Drake Goodman thoughts, but ye, Melanie Griffith. She's at that stage with this where I think she's probably late twenties real life, but in the movie could be anywhere from twenty five to forty four I would have believed any age where his Modin seems pretty young still He Vision quest five years earlier after this. Yes Also he go shirtless a couple of times and Modein still absolutely ripped. Like he looks he really' Vision quest shape. twowo things about their relationship. Um, They kind of look like brother and sister. and if you know that and watch it it weird you out I watched it once a few days ago and then I did some research, which you probably have builled it like They weren't necessarily the best friends on set, and I don't think it went that well. And then I watch the movie again and it really affects it knowing that they weren't liking each other. the same way. I watched it, did the research, watched the a second time. and I'm like Oh, yeah, they even when she's like when they're doing the renovation scene and she's kind of mounting him and it just felt like brother it was like watching the Lannister. It was like electricity when when Keaton's got the nail g her a little bit more more chemistry going on. Yeah That's one of the questions of this movie. She has a more interesting relationship with Keaton, who she's in like two scenes with. Yes. But when she's in the scenes of them, I'm like, oh yeah. Now we're going. I don't know this lookook, she's iconic and body double She's great in working girl. Working girl and had, you know, a bevy of personal problems. She married Don Johnson two different times She married Antonio Banderas and she married Manny from Scarface. It's kind of like uspice the series after all these years. Well I feel like she's like a family member for us. Don Johnson, Steven Bower, and Antonio Baderis's three husband. I'm like, I don't know I kind of think think should be third yearair or anything think It would just be like yeep Married him. And then Modine Ping Drake Goodman I'll just say this now. I think is the biggest dope in all of these from Hell movies. He might be the number one dumb ass Yeah, a male or female. I think he's the dumbest. Every decision he makes is wrong Um, He escalates it. At one point my wife who was half watching is always just went on a tie raid on him, it was like it was almost like you forget you're watching a movie. It's like, why is this guy so fucking stupid? He reacts to everything Yeah I think that's a great characteristic. Like I think it's an amazing movie character to just be like Oh, this guy is bringing so much grief to himself Because he can't control his temper. Can yous the reatchables producer? The cop is's not on the screen yet. Where is he C tell I one of our knies U What did take good than thoughts, Kyle I have a lot of Jake Goodman thoughts. him being the dumbest thing in any of the Fr Hell movies is bold. There's a woman in the Good suun who drops her own son off a cliff in favor one of the son. That's a big move. R But I love there's a really brief scene. I know you guys saw it where he shows us a lot of his cards And he's a rugby player. Yes. He comes in the rain. he's got That like blues clue shirt on and he's like, sorry, it went to double overtime Super violent Most rugby players will re be ready to fight and have beers after the game and really, really dumb Like my favorite part of the From Hell movies is not when the Fr Hell people go bad. It's when they're buttering up their marks. And the two scenes that has with with Modine and then it's a very different one with Patty. And Modine just sees a few hundred bucks and he's like, I don't give a shit. your private trust, great. Total idiot, whereereas Mounty Griffith is actually really smartl this movie She does Keaton does a lot of stuff in that scene, which is going to be coming up for most rewatchables ike so you bought this, who'd you buy this with? Are you guys married? It's your first one? Yeah. L he's just like pulling information from him. Oh good and stupid ass Drake Goodman who just sees a wallet full of twenty nine hundred dollars, which by the way, he doesn't give to him. Noope because he's like I could give you this now or I could wire you all of it next week. Anytime somebody's like, I could wire it to you next week, like I'm out. And like, hey, how about you how about you? Sed the lease and we could From my bank in San Antonio, what? I good. What was the S Tropic Thunder What is he saying then? Oh we're gonna get some crawl crawishes say in tone H Yeah, so Goodman prorofessional luxury kite baker Um One of the dumbest landlords of all time. Yeah. terrible boyfriend, notot excited at all for the pregnancy right away And Win's the fightire alcoholic Definitely put down five beers. Yeah he hammers beers that hammers Um One point he gets in a fight with Keaton. They go through the glass door, gets in some punches and then Melanie Griffith comes out And he all of a sudden he's like a five year old kid, like he collapses in her arms like, Oh, I'm sorry. It's like, what are you in kindergarten? You just fought the school bully. Just a complete mess. But He has all the traits of a spoiled rich kid except he's not rich. So what good is he? You're right The more you watch it, the less you like him. This was kind of the modine You know, he would be these quirky like vision quests, super quirky. I love that movie. I love him in that movie. I think he's great. Oh do I. But like just quirkiness about him likeike he's like why Yeah Yeah. it's off kilter. I't there's been nobody like him, right I I can't think of another actor. I can't think of another actor Now who is like as beat is him yet put in the lead role. You know what? I mean? It's like usually that guy will be like I don't know, likeike the crrisp and glover kind of like, oh, he's the comic relief for or the weird buddy weird one. He's often like the main the main character. He wass a leading man always seems and I just think because he looks young, he always seems three years too young for whatever role he's in U in full metal jacket was that kind of work to his advantage. Yes But he does Birdie Vision quest, full metal jacket, Gross anatomy. He's like consonsidered to be one of the one of the best up and coming actors. Yeah. and he's so good in full metal jacket precisely because the way he's delivering his lines and the way everybody in that movie is kind of talking is like What is going on? Hey Joker. We haven't done that one yet. And then after this he does a wind J like Greay sailing. I'm not familiar with wind.'s Americ'suook movie Sil movie. You'd be familiar if you surf around on Tubi. I do. I do. I'm a white squall guy when it comes to. And then my favorite modeine other than VisionQest, I like white squall is u is and the band played on the HBA movie about about when the aids think de up and he has a great Stand up, scream at everybody's speech in that movie How much is enough No How many bodies do we have to bury like, but it's really good. It's and it's with Timmy, when he goes on tilt, you really feel it and enjoy it. What's your Modine? likeike when you see Modine, what are your thoughts? you because don't have any. You probably think the guy the guy from Dark Knight, right? the liieutenant or whatever comes stranger. Unfortunately it's stranger things. probably pathetic, but he has like a There's almost like a Krasinsky vibe to him when he's young. He's like That's a great one. You know, it's That's who his comp is now. He could have existed in a sitcom. His style of acting, I think, almost would work that way. Like scrubs instead of Yeah. I think he could have done something like that. Good one. Do you think he should have put on fifty pounds ofusle like Krasinski? Or he could been like Jason Siegel a little bit, likeum and shrinking kind of. He's fr. He's built like a swimmer in this movie. He's like he looks so great broad huge He could have been a supero. A couple things about Modine that I find very interesting offered Maverick and topop Gun offered that before Tom Cruise Turned it down and has talked about it since because he disagreed vehemently with the film's Cold War politics. Sure. I get it. Yeah. Um which I think I get it. I see it It's just hilarious that four years later he's in Pacific Heights And it's like, I don't agree with the code part politics Tenant writes, it's a passion. He plays the defeense seecretary in Scario Day of the Solato. So I think he's loosened up. Is that true Where you ask Josh Brolin to kidnap a cartel king's daughter.. So changed his butind there. um His interviews are really great. He really offers a lot. This was from nineteen ninetyer eight times. Now I feel like he's gonna to come at us. I like Modin. I don't want him to be mad at us. That's fine. I like him too. I feel like he's a friend. It's like how I wouldd make fun of Joe House And Moodine Sunday nights with Pill. Yeah could do some Saturday nights with us? Maybe he could come on and do a next thing with you. I would love it. I like Bodine. Here's what he says.ay it one more time. I think everybody will believe me. I feel like you grew up with Modin, but like you came up. He's I get family. It's like your brother own that second.. I like Gabby. I get it The reason I was interested in Pacific Heights was that we as a society call ourselves civilized And we live together in a community in that community, we make rules where we say we won't take advantage of each other. We won't think that another individual is taking advantage of us tried to getting the benfit of the doub there's always some kind of person or group who takes advantage goodness and kindness of the society And then he goes into talking about divers and Acaoco. Really? Yeah. he's I think he'd be an incredible podcast. Very eloquent, thoughtful We active on Twitter. He was just recently tweeting about the pegboard scene was real in Vision . I love He did it. And it was really cool backstory. Like he'll tell the stories. He's out there This movie was written by Daniel Pine based The screen planans, several stories he heard from tenants in San Francisco pre internet And then it was directed by John Sessinger. Yeah So This was the tail end of the career here. Yeah, but he did our beloved Marathon man. He did. Yeah. didid Sunday, Buddy Sunday idowoy Midnight cowboy way way back when Falcon in the Snowman This is done Amera com No This is not And he did the believers. I will say that for Slicinger, this movie has, I mean, Sam Peamppa did straw dogs in the seventies But this has like some roots in like Some of those seventies movies you would see where it was like Nerdy couple. Taught a lesson about the real world by ro outlaws, kind of thing This is a little bit different. It's like more of like a sociopathic con man But it's still like two people starting their lives thinking like Let's just take the plunge and buy a seven hundred fifty thousand Victorian. Yeah and Carter Carter Hayes. There's some good directing moments of this movie though. likeike even when Carter Hayayses is going to check back in the hotel and they're like, you know, credit cards, they worked and your wife and And the camera's like going around him and the chancellor from nine to onez for Like it's really really good that guy, the dad for risk of Business But it's some good craftsmanship The only thing I wanted to mention that I think is important is this is like right in the Yuppy era Um This is we've talked about, yuppy Yeah, it's late yuppy. It's it's because they filmed this in ' eighty nine So we're talking and we talked about during the Wall Street podcast of Um Greed is good Let's try to make a buck. It it's Reagan's the president. It's how how do I become rich How do I turn a profit? And this was them trying to buy this building. It's not like they restore the building, but they restore it just because it's a chance to maybe make some money from it And the ending is really interesting when there's this other couple that comes in and they want to buy it. It's like, wow, it's nine hundred thousand dollars now and they're going to turn it in. But it was kind of the mentality back then. And I don't think it's the mentality now So you're if you're in your twenties and you're watching this now, Craig You'd be like, what the fuck's wrong with these people There's the idealism back then was just much pure than it is now. We're just too cynical now Well, it was everyone was told you will buy a house and then it's an airtight investment and then you will live in it for a long time and then make a ton of money when you sell it and you're guaranteed that. And that's what they're doing here. D you guys like when that last scene you're talking about, Bill When that by the way, that guy the that gu the dad from Friday Lights Um Did you find yourself doing the math a lot in this movie?ike I was trying to figure out the finances. did they put three percent down I don't know. Back then you could put zero down You could like I then you had somebody buying a house for seven hundred fifty thousand dollars but then living month to month with the rent we miss Miss one month rent We could lose this whole thing and say, I'm not sure how that works when you justust fudge the numbers a bit. Ebody does it. Yeah. Yeah. And then they they sell it at the end. we don't know, but maybe somewhere in the high eight hundreds and they paid mid sevens, put at least fifty thousand into it. L they make money for sure, but it's not it's not it's not. It's not walkway money. Yeah. N retirement money. No. Weird times H hundred, two minutes, correct Not bad. Right there. You feel it just flies byure. I could actually used maybe two more. use a little bit more Beverly D'Aangelo. Oh, let's go. come on. withan. Honestly, I could have used a rugby scen There you go. You need I'm gonna to watch Modine playing rugby and the I used a lot more Greg You know, the guy the guy who was helping him destroy the apartment. Oh yeah. I could use the little sexual tension scene between Kait and . I wo if sh left it on the cutting We like he touches her hand. they look at each other for a moment. He intuitively understands her pain from le or something there to be like, whoo, is there a little bit there? I had this for later in the movie. I think the movie's miss he's he goes heel immediately, right? He's in the house. he' the weird guys in there. Yeah Carter's in Seattle There's no scene where he's kind of charming them in and he's like, Hey, I brought you guys a glass of wine. Well, why don't we have it together? And then they have a glass of wine? He's got agram in the bathroom. He kind of looks at her legs likea we're just missing that ortunly. L just a, you know, leg shot Sveail little bit eighteen million dollars budget made fifty five million dollars, C Brand. fifty five million, and it was all worth it. I have to revisit something that Chris just said You imagine you go to this movie and you buy a ticket and you get an idea what it's about. All right, it's Michael Katon and something to do with real estate You sit down And in the first sixty seconds, you're like, holy shit, is this Ellen Griswald's boobs in my face for the hell is this Uncredited Beverly Di Anlo Out of the clouds with full like full nude like all timer, you must have been blown away in the theater watching that. I was re watchatching it I had in what stage the best. Top, I know you did. Top ten. sure Yes actresses we've had Yes. It's like, Hey, Beverly, you know, we can't say PG thirteen or R. Do you just want to want to film one take where we just we go for? Sure. Let's go. If it's okay with Michael. It's also one of the earliest ever moments in a movie for the okay, Motherfucker. Like we're gonna to kick this up a notch. And what's so great about that is that that's Paccino saying, okay, Motherfucker. And eventually he was in on that. Rah.'s true they They had a kid together. They sure did Um Yeah, I'd Googled I Googled I was thin this should be a category of Th things I Google as I'm prepping the rundown for rewatchables, but I googled Beverly D' Anangelo nude scenes. 'use I couldn't remember how many times she had down on that iPad or this iPad. No was on this iPad And all this research came up of her nude scening in vacation, which apparently she's like, fuck it, I'll do it. And there was this whole story about Anthony Michael Hall getting in trouble because He tried to sneak on into the set when she was new E. I don't think came up in our research when we did re watchatchs initially and then they had to kick him off the set because he was basically fourteen old Cies. Yeah. to watch through of people. Roger Ebert, two stars. You know, who's not a fan of from Helmont, the late Roger Ebert finds these movies Yeah to test his movies Pacific Heights is a horror film for yuppies in which the bad guy uses the axe to attack your three flat, not you The thing is that I could easily see this being the prempise of a hitchcock movie I mean, even down to the setting But the idea of being terrorized in your own house seems like something that was ready made for him. And then Roger would be like, ah, the master I never much liked the young couple or believe they liked each other. There you go. And I didn't see enough of Keon in the early stages of the movie because he was always behind a closed door fair criticism. That is true. I was gonna to do this later, I'll do it now. This would have been a great Papalomo movie Yes, for sure I think you ramp up the sexuality all the way through. I think you change you recast Melanor Griffith or Ter just can you go in a body double mode? He would be doing all this stuff like going between walls. Yeah. It's like Drake and Patty are humping. Carter's listening, you know, like There's definitely a Carter sneaks in and is watching when they're having sex scene Yeah. Carter makes Anne come over but calls her Patty. It's just like it would be so twisted. All kinds of. See, I would take that and I would just I would just go onene notch higher with Fincher and then then it's getting really dark. like panic room forcing himself. I I to handle Fincher with the roaches. I just think' be something really gross We're going to take a break We're to come back with most rewatchable scenes. and I had a surprising amount of them This episode is brought to by Netflix. 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Get free samples, expert design help, and professional measure and install services, or DIY it with confidence and support every step of the way Shop up to forty five percent off sitewide right now during the fourourth of July VIP access sale at blinds. com Most re watchable scene Kyle mentioned the sheer thrill of seeing Mrs. Griswoldd getting it on a minute in this movie. Congrats to her One year after Christmas vacation in which she spends the entire Christmas Eve with this like center cut bosom busting thing and you're like, God, she's so attractive and cool. Ten seconds into the movie just lying around naked. It was the thirteen year old me went crazy. L Bos. She's just covered in her own cigarette smoke. Just smoking and wearing a kimono the entire. It's coming out of her nostrils constantly. It's almost like it's like she's wearing a reverse oxygen mask or something just spitting out Um, Most of people watch the scene. I love a good house renovation scene goingoing right into a super awkward rental scene with a persspective black tenant. Have you ever done Really, really interesting from a nineteen ninety perspective for sure. that winds up being a real really, really interesting. Checkob's Black tenant, but Have you ever done your own demo work No, no What are you talking about? I' just j. I jammer You never gotten the hammer out. Look at these hands. No Chris, have you? I' got own. L baby soft hands on. Yeah. Th hands are as soft as a baby's bottom I thought Chris maybe that place where you guys playing around though. Yeah. you used to have chalouses here that's just I thought I didn't know like back in Boston or your first LA house. you were like, Yeahah, let's take this ball down Let's open this up a little. I didn't think No. That's a no. I'm sorry, I just get the runaround so much. Felt bad for that guy. Yeah Carl He was also Carl Lumberer, mayaybe be a little too agro initially, but I again of that place. Yeah. Al I'm putting the I'm not putting it under the door at lease application. It's in an it's in a Mila envelope attention think would you could have just been a little bit more on the same page about who is handling applications and who is doing well They weren't on the same page in this entire movie Uh Kyle mentioned this scene already King comes in asks a bunch of questions. place How bet if I pay two thousand now actuallyctually, how w are you everything from my bank Ionia feed bag in this in this scene Thank in San Antonio I know. it sounds so made up and this is there's twin scenes. He works the idiot Drake And then he gets the smart girl and he's doing that thing where he's like Did you pick out these light fixtures? And then there's this shot where he gives her a quick up and down in the body and he's like you've got great taste. It's a great scene. I love that one I work for a private trust. I don't really have a traditional kind of credit Sure. This is up there. What I was thinking about like who would buy this? How stupid do you have to be? Maybe he had CTE from the rugby? This is a very like what's the most nineteen ninety thing, but like it's The idea of being like, I work for a private trust. It's based in San Antonio. You're not going to get a usual credit history. It's up there with like, I'd love to do this, but I just have to move some money around. Y. sureure. yeah. takeake out your phone and move the money around. R. Yeah. Motherfucker come back when that money is. sounds like she lives in Canada. I met her and I ag It's the same thing. like what's the Mount Rushmore of Yeah you wouldn't know her. E lay anybody around here? He says, I'm always running into this problem, you know I bet you are Carter Hayes. What do we think about Carter Hayes and Drake Goodman as names I think they's supped to be anonymous because Danforth keeps moving through identities So I think it's like an easy, it's an easy name to like replicate and to like get Ringer podcast with Carter Hayes host Oh, straight Lacrosse, dude. That's an AI Lax name right there if I ever heard one It's like we've gotten rid of Danny Heywitz in the Fish te foball show. We've replaced him with Carter Hayayse. If Carter Haye started doing some town episodes He's a billaire now. Um This is my favorite scene in the movie and o. just because it makes me laugh so hard immediately turns you against Drake Goodman for the rest of the movie and he becomes the bad guy When they're talking about Mr. Baker, how he came in the aspect of Black tenant. And he goes, I don't know. Maybe he's one of those minority skam artists. That was a weird agro racist t by. Is this a new category for us? the Draac and Goodman Award for Most unexpected casual racism? No, no, it's not a racial thing. It's common sense.. That guy is so psyched to vote for Bush. He almost catches himself saying, I have a lot of black friends, honey. L it's right there. To be fair, he does. hisis only friend He does. That' true. Yeah. That's true. It's weird because he's no basist, but they're running The other apartment to a Japanese couple and his only friend is black So why are you being a racist? Yeah It's just bizarre Um Drake Goodman racist kite baker That should be a your character in the impressions. Sorry, you'll never get one of these kites. Yeah, I don't trust this guy. He's Mexican. I'm just a kite maker. I just callt like I see it We did hit about a World Cup show. Drake have been in the first Sicario. I's like, yeah, finding him would be like finding a vaccine for a disease Ivious youve had a World Cup show. Ecuador typical. That's just basically Alexi Wallace He got is. Oh man. Carter somehow gets into the place is my next rewatchable scene. Yeah. Yeah. This is tough because this is where they gave him an inch of daylight and he just is in. Yeah Did they? Well, because that's the great thing. He signed the lease. I guess he did. signed the lease, but he's obviously not paid. He immediately changes the locks. He got in because somebody opened the door Their mistake was not locking the lower part. They're just so disorganized. They got people moving in, they they have money problems. We need this guy. they' have anybody pract watching the till. Yeah. it went to double over time. like there's a lot going on. The kites are running behind schedule. There was an intense scrum he was a part of. Yeah. I wanted to see her if she ran like the equestrian club like this There's just little kids riding on horses away from place in Malbu or whatever Um Hay's in the garage We go from he barely gets in to he's in Seattle to now he's just smoking a cigarette in the dark in the garage Again, I feel like we're missing a scene, but I think this is a really good fliip in the razor blade. Y It's like, okay And this is twenty two minutes into the movie. It's like, all right We're not even gonna to like play the game and pretend we're buddies. Right. We're just going for it I looked for you guys. he's smoking that cigarette in the car with the windows up too like it'sull psycho. He doesn't care. Yeah, that might is arguably the so most sociopopathic thing he did in the movie. in a small portche coop too. That ain't invented because that car's going to fucking stink for ten years J keeping roaches in jars is pretty nuts as well. Yeah. That's pretty n. U nextext rewatch we'll see PJ a lot I can handle this, Patty. I know U This is where my wife wrote down her quote He's acting very rrational and it's bothering me. That was a direct quote from my wife. Yeah. Patty needed to take take the con here. She needs to take over. Patty needed to give him the Vito Corleone. You can act like a man. Yeah. justust like shake his shhake his shirt. He's just a mess at this point. Next one, cockroaches. which leads to Drake climbing under the apartment at the perfect time where we get to hear the entireot out of the movie Thanks to our two bad guys. doing a podcast about their heist they're doing. Well you brought me in on this. Yeah ye. The cats in there, there's cockroaches that fall in the head Um Good it Probably Modine's best moment in the movie. Those are twenty live cockroaches getting dropped out. This is right when the cat gets taken, right? Yeah. When you and I have shared that in the nineties Earlier decades in American history, we've weve had a little bit more of a Transient like kind of flippant relationship to house pets. Yeah. This is what we mean. You know, like when it's just like, ah, you just get out another cat When he tells Patdty, they have our cat, she's just like too bad esn't give a shit Honestly I was gonna have Mallory as our fourth and I just feel like she would have spent an hour and a half talking about the cat. Yeah. I just I understand. Yeah. just would have would have his own Instagram account. Yeah. member of the family. we travel with it. Yeah. But he takes those bugs to the face like a champ. I like that. reminds me of Like Kate Capsha in Temple of Doom gets like bugs and centipedes all over her. It's like that. It's a good cool moment If if you had to say more impressive to the pegs Vision quest going all the way up for the twenty cockroaches on the face What did Modain? what impressed you more for Modain The cockroaches the face is like a bad like Joe Rogan fear factactor episode. that pegboard. I couldn't do that thing. even I was in high school. I think it's the pegboard by far. I think it's very hard, veryy hard. Yeah. incredible stuff by Modine. He's a fucking legend Um Carter brings the flowers over after making the police call just to get his ass kicked goes through the front door. We get a cry hug after Drake does the beating And then we get the lawyer going This is what he wanted game over, Drake loses. She's just giving them the basics at all time. God help us if this becomes personal. Oh man. so good. Fight seeing, any thoughts, Kyle I do. Yeah. I have some thoughts. First of all, I had this on unanswerable questions Incredible job baiting the hook with the preemptive police call What is Carter's play if Goodman doesn't take the bait? In other words, he's mad, but like he's not beating him up. You just keep kind of riding him and you have that if you pull at this like Yes. I mean, my unanswerable questions are similarly based in Kyle, but like I don't know what he does if Drake's just like Okay, well, I tried, you know, like now see, I think He studied this man, this idiot, Drake Goodman weeks on end. He getting excited by just the site of three thousand dollars. Yeah. This is like Brunson in game five of with Weemby just like I've solved this seven foot six forve got. I'm just going to beat him off the dribble. He's going to buy every fake I have and then I'm going to score on them anyway I think I think' going to have the artillery ready to some sound bites or maybe some gestures. He was gonna get him to punch him one way or another. O about the rugby, he's like this gu's gonna punch Yeah. This guy plays rugby He could just be like, rugby. It's not a real sport. G it Every rugby player is just a failed football player, right, Drake, and then the punches would start get shot. This was a whooa. the camera too keeping comes keeping turns off the lights and he's in the back. Great job. Yeah Do you think I had this for unanswerable. Do you think he meant to kill him or just No, I think he meant to name him because I think the entire point is that he wants take his identity or firstirst con is supposed to be I will basically get this house as payment for the debts that they're going to owe me, right? civil complaint that I have. And then he's just going to sell the house for nothing and make like whatever the profit is for that But then I think as it goes on, it becomes more of an identity theft thing What do you think Well, I think, yeah, he shoots him by accident and then he plants the crowbar. But I'm glad Chris said that because I think even watching it now as an adult, it's a little hazy exactly what Carter's endgame is. Wed it I'm like, what is the plan? Like he strips the apartment and I think maybe he sells all the light fixtures and the tile or something Like I think for him, it's like all cash business. I just need moving around money. But I don't know that he is like a This score will set me up. likeike I think he's addicted to like being on the run and addicted to this kind of terror. I have the answers What do he got? He destroys the place because he's a fucking sociopath who smokes cigarettes with the windows up in his car Um He fully intends to win a civil suit against Drake and get the house. Yeah. and then not like then start at life there. He's going to flip. he's going to flim it and move to the next city. right Yeah Yeah There's just like way easier ways of making two hundred thousand dollars deffinitely. you have to get the shit kicked out of you. L lookook at Patty fucking equestrian teacher, right? There' something. Fly some kites Patty seing that Carter destroyed the place. Um Yeahah, she's really upset about it It's a scene.ver light. It's Mellie Griffith's best work in the movie. followed by her maid in the tenant that she didn't rent to. Yes boyfriend is a casual racist. My favorite part of the movie, Patty spies on Carter for the day and somehow gets into his hotel room. This fifteen, ten minutes, whatever it is. I wish there was like three more things like this. Honestly, this could have been the whole movie. Yeah She does like the full Kevin McCister. I'm just gonna to order everything to room service. F Caesar, Crem Brolet. just, she's like having a shopping spree and it's as your audience, you've been waiting for ninety minutes this. It's very satisfying. You know what they Crag's nodd happily. I know that he loves this part. B scene in the movie.s easily the most rewable scene. The whole thing with the maid, like you find it a little It' ridiculous that Carter keeps his entire biography and newspaper clippings in his suitcase. Well, we l it from Helmut that everybody does. Yeah. That his fatal attraction created it and now that' from Helmut, you have to keep scrap. But you know what it remind me of was Jeanne Triplehorn's move in the firm where she goes down to the Caymans with with apron. Yeah Avery And like I thought it would have been great if Patty was like Carter, you're the fucking man. takeake me with you on your next score and like tried to seduce the drug a bit, but You know, basically was always just try to build a case against him. Yeah. That's for the Apple scripted series that's going to happen from this. I learned that u from this scene, the mato always let you in in any movie If you try this in real life, they're like, I'm sorry sir. I cant You're going to have to go back down line. H herer excuse is like I can't get into my room. likeike it's like, you're in the tenth floor, justust go down and get a fucking key. Also, what's the Mo always falls fur to the movies. What is with like leaving then taking back then leaving a little bit of cash for the maid Is trying to decide how much Carter owes her versus the maid? I think she was like, I'll do a good deed for this lady. and then she's like, Ohh yeah, we're broke. I'm about to lose my house. I do think that's it, which is such a weird thing to ask. She wass like, whyy do I want to give the mid to all of them? Yeah She' a good person. Yeah. Bill, this is like this is one of those things that happens in movies and not in real life, like when you go into a bar and say, I'll have a beer, you have to say the name of the beer I recently had this in a hotel like six months ago where I was locked out and I asked the maid. I was like, can you please let me in? hereere's my ID. hereere's everything. And this lady was going to war. She No matter what I said, she would not let me it's's a it happened in nineteen ninety. Yeah. An any hotel iss going be like, you're fired if she's. you gott to go downstairs. Yeah. I don't have can't I can't let you in. Yeah. I know I like when people go nuts in a bad guy's hotel room, which she does When they flip out The scrapbook of his evil work is Especially good. It's probably the best scrapbook we've had. Yeah. there's Perfectly cut newspaper clippings. Hey, here's when I lost out the family g to my brother. It's just like so weird ' it's like if you're Carter, it's not like you've forgotten what you've done, right All these pictures. Here's me and my twin brother in a champanzZe. Yeah. Yeah That's probably when he started losing his mind. And also listen, you have Tom Sismore calls guys slick in prison changing the entire plot of the movie. Danforth unlocks the entire thing. Come on. He left the scrap back with his real name on the back in the middle of the trashed apartments. That's like the slick equivalent here I like when she takes the chocolate So here that chocolate That whole scene is just great. Then the final fight fight scene You cross the line. The nail gun Very call backack to the nail gun it just had stopped working for her And then we get the Allan Rickman Well that's right there staring Bruce Will staring at CR slickking staring them down. We get the fall fall backwards, even though he's just in a kitchen. Yeah going backwards. just put your hands behind you Um, Our guy, Matthew Modid, another interview who did two thousand. What's you got now? C on I the movie would have made a load more money if at the end when Michael Keaton fell in the spikes If he'd starting to pull himself up And I'd reached up from where I was below him pulled him back down onto them. becausecause he shot me. He's beat me with the golf club. He's ruined life. He's destroyed my apartment The audience really wanted my character, Drake Goodman to get one back at him To be fair to admit I all due respect Matthew M Jon. Do you think anyone in the history of Movie Go would be like, Yeah, it was a pretty good movie until the very end when Drake Goodman finally double impales him and everybody's like, I gotta go out and see that for myself. I would load more money because of that. I think more people would have wanted Drake Goodman to die at the end of the movie. I wish she had died from the golf club beeting I hate Drake Gman. Yeah Can I guess I should say this now My weak link of the film I think Carter's death is fucking horrible. I think the whole scene is so lame You do get Chekhov's nail gun, but you don't get it killed with it And can we just can we walk through what Drake's plan was here? He's just been beaten with a golf club and his bullet wounds He's gonna to go underneath the room in the chance that there's some glory hole he can reach through and do a Brazilian leg lock to trip him. Yeah. And that final shot is like something that Nordberg would do. It looks ridiculous. I think the let last scene is bad. It's the worst part of the movie. I agree. They They did not end it I also think he's kind of holding onto his leg and Keatin's looking down Kick your leg Yeah, stop his fingers. The guy's like really injured. Yeah, just like hurt his arm. Kat's like who like as no it had to react. It's like they shot Keaton thinking he was going to fall out a window But then the actual reality is he just falls underto the floor. It would have been better if he just put his hand up and tripped them And then he fell like face first on the thing. It the floor down to Modine or something. What been? Imagine Hans Gruber instead of falling fifty stories just fell down on the ground. That's what it is. What if like, you know, Drake was hiding underneath the floor and then he just lets a kite out at the last? Oh yeah. just k. He's got a kite with razor blades on it I'm always upset that nobody says anything in this final moment. I know. Like he's aive. Carter's alive for twenty seconds staring at you. Like that's when you get in your line. That's when you put a cockroach on his face. You feel like you're evicted. Yeah If we projected you U, your rent is past due. Yeah Say goodbye to that security depositirphold. It's perfect Honey, callall the angry black guy. We have a vacancy Hotel room is the best scene Thats the That's the most rewatch no brainer What's the most nineteen ninety thing about this movie, Cowbrant You know, sometimes when you're just lying on the couch riddled with bullet wounds, You just need to bang out some sound Garden on MTV and just turn it the fuck up and it'll just take you where you need to go. I self satisfied and that's just like I'm just cozy. Yeah. And it's just it's rocking out early sound Garden. It's this song called Hands All overver. It's metal as Hell. He should be watching like prrice is right or something like no MTV sound Garden like turned up to eleven. It makes me so happy TV video of a grrunge song that they probably wouldn't have played in nineteen eighty nine or nineteen ninety, I'm guessing that one's plan. Wh just all the banking and tenant application stuff waiting for wire transfers. U And then also this has now become a tenant of a Fom Hell movies, letters of reference again. Shes like, hey, I have this letter of reference. Wow It's airtight. We better just get this guy in the apartment. Well how about here's a phone number of my previous landlord? Yeah. It's just some lady having a cigarette. Yeah, Carter's great. Yeah, I had to give him money just to be here. yeah. You don't have an address for him, do you? That's a red flag. I also had Drake being kind of blown away by Carter having a car alarm Oh I was clearly' just like. Whoa! He junked on him Are you from the future? I had buying a huge San Francisco three story house for seven hundred fifty thousand dollars. Although one point nine million do adjusted for today's money. H. Eber calling this a horror film for Yuppies Um Anyone working for a design or kite company, I feel like that has to specifically be nineteen eighty nine or ninety. Yeah Thats And then that's real like eararthday kind of vibe. Yes, you know, like we're just gonna to go outside to the park A the end of to Google your b guy tenant. L likeah I'm just gonna check out this Carter Haye see if there's anything online. And then Melanie's haircut It's Jimon Bill. you waited long enough. Let's do it It's veryery specific to the that eighty nine ninety. It's I want some life in it. It's like a bob. My wife kind of liked it But it's kind of a Bob. I don't know if it exists two years later. I think she goes shorter. Yeah Um And it's just very specific to that era and I don't know why. H her clothes in general are very late eighties, nineteen nineties Mhm u I'm so excited. This is my favorite category The Floyd Gndaly butter my ass, lollly pops in my mouth the word hing I just enjoy I'll go first. Okay I love in movies like this when people do over the top rich guysy stuff And it's like the most ciched rich guy thing you could possibly do In this case, Carter Hayayse I know is next score picks up the you later in this giant mansion. What are we going to do I had an idea. um I'm gonna put a sweater over my shoulders. I have a yacht, little three hour yacht trip and let's drink some champagne. It just seems super rich together. Nobody on the planet does this in real life. That one. in a movie though great Champagne, Yach trip Captain, take us out. I got my sweater Hold on I'm going to make sure my sweaters Nobody does this, Kyle. He definitely had lobster and caviar too. That Thats what you do back in the day. Lifestyles are the rich and famous. No What's here great, greatfulool. First of all, I haven't thought about anything for the last five minutes than ways that Carter Hayes could suffer a kite death. That's all I want in life. I feel likebe maybe see how there could have been like a key or something like Benjamin Franklin, like another famous kiter. That's all I want was a kite death Floyd Gndoli things I just enjoy I really enjoy Orcin's presence in this movie. Very good Bob, the sidekick of the Joker in the Batman movie shows up and Bill this is probably in half ass internet. The Orkin Company sued in how they were portrayed in this movie because I have this vision that there's like a VP of marketing who goes to CEO and's like, sir, I really think we should write the check for this Matthew O'dine movie. I think we w wantanna be in it. They go to the premiere. they're sitting and they're like, here's the scene, Here's the roaches. Here comes. And then it's this idiot bumbling Barney five moron. Wh's like, Ier step on them. They can't do anything. And then I feel like the Orkon people went to the premiere and at the after party, they were at the same table as the Marriott people And Marriat people like this movie was great. We love how we were portrayed the This guy the in LA. Yeah. The manager with all the balls to stand up to the We love it and the Orkon people were furious. That gives me great amusement Pretty good. it is, yeah. What was that guy? What Tracy Walter? He's in Ro manan, He's in Batman. Yeahah I had sounds of the lambs Yeah forforming an autopsy. He he's been around right. Yeah. Yeah, he's one of those guys. What do you have just any movie where a car pulls up to the top of a hill in San Francisco As as it's going home to it like, it's just like Those shots of those hills are just always like ye, this movie can be about anything W stge' the best other than anyone asking a trusty maid to let them into a hotel room that isn't theirs Always works. I always get excited when it happens. neverever can happen in real life. What do you have for what's the best c I already kind of mentioned that Patty is just so much smarter than Drake. I like that. Yeah. And he's like a total dick to her and she just sees over it. And then on the same related note, I just want to give some respect to Melanie Griffiths jeans in this movie. They're like the fourth lead of the film. They' they're I mean, they're up to her armpits, they're belted, they're frosted. I can't take my eyes off them. Her final shot in the movie is up the stairs walking. It's just fantastic And I love her genes in this movie. GENES and JENS. That's right. I would say I would say is the best. Probably just the idea of like the beta trying to fight the alpha, likeike Drake being pit against a guy Who has everything that he doesn't and everything comes more easily to that guy. rugby beta? Yeah, rugby beta with a con manan alpha. So I really enjoyed that I have music by Hans Zimmer Yeah, yeah Hans is like, Yeahah, I'm not doing anything that week. I could whip something together E don't movie? Okaykay, I'll work on it and Casual rental racism coming back to burnd a landlord. Yeah. So what age the best scrap up with someone's evil past I had for another Beverly Dgel Nud scene. It's like Devin Hester with kickoff touchdowns. It's like, he did it again ninety eight yards. And this was like the Super Bowl because he does it on the first play, likeike right out of the gate and just Nance can't believe it. again. how many times can he do this? Just so cute.'tester. Oh, that's great. Bev smoking ahead for UCR. Yeah Positive spin for the most part, I being a landlord. Usually landlords in movies are evenil people landlords. Yeah,. Like they as characters who're just like, oh, the fucking landlord or he's creepy or he's spying on them. It's like a stepmother. It's he's evil. Tippy Hedrren as Fl Tppy Hedrren as Florence Peters and That's Melan Griffiths. Melan Griffiths real life, mom And then I have for whats age the best, this exchange Oh, that's a great idea, Pattty. You're pregnant with a blown knee My knee's fine and I don't have to be pregnant Oo yeah, that's in the script. Yeah But also like unbelievable. Patdty's threatening to go back pro again in equestrian writing? likeike what kind of money are we talking So you can make the mortgage The nationals are coming up. He' like don't know, it could be an Olympic sport any year now. The Steven Seal shitting on himself for worward for most unbelievable anecdote from the actual film shoot Kyle alluded to this earlier. Look, this is on the internet,ot positive, it's true, but I'm going to pass anyway because it's great. Modin stated during a presentation at the New York Film Academy that he experienced significant difficulty working with Melan and Griffith He noted her frequent complaints regarding her menstrual cycle as a primary memory of their professional interaction I don't know if that's true or not. It's so fucking' weird that I just' passing the along.m not judging As the other side true. That's amazing is that Around when when Melanie Griffith was shooting bonfire, the vanities. Okay. She complained openly about how difficult a production Pacific Heights was. Do you know how fucked up Pacific Heights must have been to have been complaining about it during making bonfire, right? What happened during this moveie? And then came World War two out there. I'm not getting along with Melanie Griffith Sould you say they're about the menstrual cycle like in character is Drake Goodman? Like that's something I hope that's not true. Maybe it's not true. I'm gonna p pass that Just for comedy' sake, that's it. Again, the Steven Sagal category is like, we don't know if that happened where he shit on himself, but's pass along We we're gonna take one more break and then we're do great shock ororda Introducing Taco Bell's new jalapeno citrus salsa with bright citrus, real red jalapenos, guailo chiles. Usually, you add sauce to the food, but when the sauce is this good, the food is just there to get the sauce to your mouth That ro cada not a rolled casada anymore Now it's a sauce shovel. Taco Bell's Jalifeeno citrus salsa. Get it with any item on the canantina Chicken menu while it's here. 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The random three hundred and sixty dolly shot of Patty and the lawyer having a pretty normal conversation when Laurie Mechcalf and Melanie Jith are just like, yeah, well this guy's gonna try and get you out of the house because that's what he does. He tries to wait And meanwhile the fucking camera is going around and around. L it's like they just found Jake Lamada there. It's really. You love settle down, Juice. Yeah. That's good one. I like that. I have this written down that if one of these guys chooses the three hundred and sixty shot for the great Shot Gorda we're gonna fight. I hate that shot. I feel like I'm on a carnival ride. I get sick and they're treating this banal conversation like it's a picino in the ocean and the insider like just screaming into the phone. It's like The drama doesn't match the shot. easy.. The only time it works is when Keaton's flipping out at the end of the hotel manager because he's flipping out and they start moving around. Yeah That's good I agree. The other one didn't work Um, I had the ice cube falling in the hotel glass. Oh that was. I thought that was a really good one where it flips I going out the door. It's just I was impressed Chess Fockwell, Brocolananders were a best character nameam. Carter Hayes Now you guys got Tr Goodm? you gott to d deeper here guys. What you? What do you got, Chris? Court appointed locksmith, Manfred Bagel Oh come on man. That's his name C you imagine this guy name's Hyanzel, that's the actor. And he's been in a bunch of Woody Allen movies or whatever, but do you think he's gets to call and they're like Incredible high We need you to come play a co a court appointed blacksmith. And he's like for Christ's sake, I don't know. And they're like, his name is Manfred Bagel and And he's like, I'm in I'm there. What's my call time? What that guy's nickname was unen for everything? The screenwiter was definitely eating a bagel when he wrote that character's Man for Bagel. Well, there's something in the thing where they say Patty's last name a couple times in the movie and then the credits, it's a different last name. Oh for. Which I assume it's just an overs. Wait a second, hold on. Is it possible that his name is Bagel because he deals with locks? maybe? Oh, it's like a nickname. and that But they they like the marshall is very like official about like he's like very official Ct appointed Backsmith, Manford Bagel He does everything C Cy pursuue happiness the word best needle jp. Go ahead, Kyle Well, I already mentioned the sound garden There's an awesome part where when Drake gets back to the house and the car is being taken apart and there's just this crazy heavy metal plane. Yeah. I want to shout out to a band called Hollows Eve an eighties Thrash band from Atlanta who plays lethal tendencies and it makes Drake even matter. It's like a trap that he walks in. That metal song, which by the way I know that song kind of music pretty well I literally downloaded Shazam and held it to my TV because I couldn't find out what song that was, And it's like, oh, easy. Lethal tendencies, Hallo. gotot it. My wife has been doing that to like random trance songs that are on like October.'s like, what is this? And I'm like, it's like literally music. What. I wrote down and this is for later, but did this movie create grunch music here? No That's a good good bit. Trake Goodman listened to Sound Garden. was that it? That be your hottest take. That was crround zero Hes he is you could tell he's starting to explore like I've got a scarf on like ironically. Yeah Yeah I think they moved to Seattle. You probably they really get into this. Well, Sound Garden what? a year later they're playing birth ritual and singles. Yeah. it's it's they just beat it. Dennathy's Beny Hner Award for Sene Steal and Location and the Amanda Dobbins Award for Best Pieace of Real Estestate. where this house was. Do you think this house is a good piece of real estate I' like that it's at the top of the hill like that. lear a lot too. I think it's weird to live on those steep hills. Did you know anybody who did that? No My buddies Bish and Mike and Hopper when they lived there. they lived like in the middle of a Slanted hill. I always thought it was just weird. Yeah. Um I do wantan to mention the Beverly Hills house from the lady that his next mark. ten fourteen North Crescent. thirty point three million on Red Fin right now. Yeah. How much? thirty point three. Wow. And mean it looks fucking huge. It was back bigig house Maybeab That's the fucking big that's the white whale for Carter. He must be like, if I get this one, it's all over I just like, don't so he's like in San Francisco trying to scam somebody into an apartment and And then he's also in L.A. trying to get a thirty million do going. Yeah.ody has his M's identity to go after her, right? Yeah It's you always w to have the next one going. Yeah. It's like Sam Presty. You got like two trades going at once. This movie' had a better title Well, it could. it would have been the tenant, but Roman Bolansky made that movie Broken lease. He never breaks it I just I think it's eviction. It Pacific Heights. What percentage of the viewing populace even knows what Pacific Heights is in reference to? It's very vague Sity deposit Um, I have the winner It's off of what Kyle just said evviction quest Oh yeah. Yeah It's an unofficial Vision Quest sequel. iction FictionQuest. CR you have a flex category? There's a Jesse Eisenberg. That's good. You should be proud of that right there. Don't worry if you don't make it any further reward for the best line reading is when I. Ket and first meets Modin And's like I spoke your wife butt' studiopartment. He goes on my girlfriend. He's like, sor We don't want to rush anything, do we a really good line reading. My actual flex is to turn Turn it back to you guys It's the Van Lathan. How would Van Lathan get out of this one Usually this is sex adjacent But yeah. How would you guys handle this? Okay. Cerrie comes to you and she's like, You know, It's going to be lonely without Ben here. Let's get a tenant Next thing you know is change the walks. L what's your first move I think it's a lot easier now with camera phones. Okay. Part of the problem is they can't capture the drilling at two thirty in the morning U And I think we also have more awareness of what to do as the landlord in this? Yeah. If they if they're in there and they're not paying, I feel like you could immediately quee in Um If he hasn't paid anything and it didn't seem like he had a signed lease He signed the sign the lease just no money. It was all predicated on like, I'm going to sign the lease. I'm going to send you six months right. That's why he was legally. That's why he had the rights to live there because he signed the lease. Yeah. he was like, o, there's a problem. There's a mix up at the bank. If you yourre bill, I feel like you got to bring in like a big dom security guy who just sits out every time he comes home, he's like, Hey Carter Where's that money? Yeah. This is this is where I bring in Gaho. Okay. So Kyle now Gaha how, you gotta handle. Oh, you gotta do that. Gah how. day man. G Kyle's talking to a tenant right now. Kyle, how would you handle it Does the tenant, Chris, just indulge me this? Does the tenant work for a private trust say the T That's who the private trust is for. yeah. Listen, the biggest idiot thing that they do this, they wait way too long to call the police. Yeah. The second Greg is slamming the door in your face,? We gott to get the police. You need a record of feuding with the guy that you gott to then go forward. Yeah too answer your question, Chris, I would rather have like reptile pets in my house than have an actual renter I don't think I'd in this, but Id call the police early if I did. Here's my thing. Yeah, what do you? kill them with kindness. Every night down there with a six pack of egg Christine being like, Hey Carter! Hi Just wan to know if you wantan to upstairs, Rick Rushchel's pitchon The Giants are looking pretty good Nope. Okay. See you tomorrowight I feel like Rick Mor is from Ghostbuster. Rugbwy Championships are on Hey come come over for a middle water my Rus team. Nope. N no okay. All right, well I'll talk to you later, bud I would just act like me and Carter were best friends You know what you do, Chris? You're gonna you're going to have a Weber grill too and you can put some ribs on there out front. And Carter, do you want some Medium rare, comeome out there perfect. Brats Ronie lot looking real good this season, Carter. Bring Creg to it. Well, the other move is when he's not there, you just figure out to break into the place. Yeah which is a way better strategy than what he tried to do of turning Turning the lights off and the power off and all that. That's like the one no no, because now you're violating him. now you're the bad guy. Yeah, couldn't you just get in and change the locks again Keat and couldn't get back in? You could. Yeah. And then you could say like, well, I don't Lase agreement? what you mean? He's never paid me Witch's Girlfriend Award for Weak Link of the film So you already did yours, Kyle Yeah, the last scene his death scene sucks, But you know what it doesn't suck, Chris Ryan referencing bigig daddy Rick Rusell of the S Francisco Js. I loved Rick Rusll. You got the whole run to bow in the All Star Yeah Um, What do you got Vill Carter Hayes, I have him as the best sixth inning starter ever as a villain in a movie He can only throw eighteen pitches. He looked unstoppable He's basically he's gone through sex People are texting each other, like you watching Carter Hayes right now? Yeah eighteen straight outs ten strikeouts, no walks. likeike this guy's on fire falls apart In order, u He fucks up and shoots Drake. I still don't understand what we talked aboutuck up He shots and put the crowbar in his hand. But why What did that what did that get him I think he's trying to drive Drake mad so that he is gone from the situation and he can take over the house Just killing them. Yeah I didn't understand though. He leaves the childhood photo behind You're getting out of there. you have time to pack up but you're leaving this Incredible clue. He moves to L.A and stupidly sends a postcard from his new hotel to his ex girlfriend who's been looking for him who hates him. Yes. do that And then he becomes Drake Goodman in the hotel But that's your second guess after is Carter Hayser? No h I wonder if he stole Drake' identity. Is Drake good in here? He sure is, Room ten thirty wouldood I just I thought he played this perfectly and then it just fell apart um Yeah. Bill. I'm looking at like like Mark Prior for the Cubs in the Steve Bartman game, which is completely resed. when when Carter Hays is sprinting down the avenue of the stars chasing a cab. I feel bad for him. That's beneath him as a starter. You got to get him out of there. Yeah, that's when he's now he's like giving up nine ear runs. It's like I him Its got to know his ER is going to go up Did you have a wake link or no U No, not really. I liked Lauri Metccaf's performance, but I think it would have been cool to have like a harder charging lawyer. like a little bit more aggressive. Maybe he gets killed by Carter The Mallie Rubin awward I threw in for did this movie need a better sex scene? take two more. I don't think this movie has enough sex in it. No. I really think they should have ramped it up. Carter should have brought some gal home to the destroy department one day If you're going to throw that in in the first three minutes can't be it. Yeah. Like you're trying to set a tone and then you then you thirteen Angelo, trust me. this the whole movie is going to be like this. Well why do it's an unanswerable, but why did she demand to take her? Name out of the credits. I thought that was weird. Yeah unbuilded. You know, she's like she's and seven. It's very. She's like the fourth lead of the movie basically. But's not Bell. I zag on this actually. I actually it's like Did this movie need a worse sex scene because That sex scene is so good I'd rather stay out in the desert with the two of them. I'm guys first. I'm more intrigued by that. That' like like they're like out in white sands. like I would love to know what was going out there. Yeah, that's pretty weird W saage the worst Um, the first scene, Just in general is pretty bizarre Let those guys come in they beat him up, but not really. he's fine. It is. What lesson did he learn and Why did' they like break his arm? I didn't get that. So are those people sent by the original Carter Hayes Those guys is the idea that he is st a car Hazes dity and now those guys are coming after him. Yeah then he still won because he he retained that apartment. appears. Yeah. Do that seem need to be in the movie I'd it more interesting if he just shows up It shows how desperate he is. It shows his lifestyle and it immediately gives you a little violence and sex. I kind of like the scene actually, because it's confusing, but it tells him he's mysterious. I would take more violence and maybe he shows up in his arms in a cast or something.. Remember the shot at the very beginning of the movie there's like two guys driving on the road That's the guys with the baseball bat. Oh, that's just the two guys games. They're going out to beat a m. Yes. Yeah. The photo of him and his brother in a chimpanzee. What's going on there? This is what ched the worst Yes. What's coming on there? I don't know. They look like they're a nevereverland ranch. It's a very strange photograph Johnny Charles Oan Pose with the chip. Yeah When have you ever been in a situation where you could take a photo that ch' see the movie every which way but loose? Carter's like, I have responsibilities. I have to take care of my brother. What is that about? And his brother, it's established took and disowned him. Yeah Um I thought that so that Shazam song you did. This is my other Ws Age of worst I just would have put in Dinosaur Jr. there. They're sitting right there. Let's get like a real band They're not really famous yet, they need it You know, they have an album at that year you I thought that could have worked. What did you have for what it works? I think there's like some some moments where Han Zimmer is doing We have to save the Earth from an asteronoid music but it's just like these two guys are just like nailing two byx fours. I don't think it's not dramatic. Yeah. two turned it down. And I thought the combined income of a couple made up of kite maker and a horse riding instructor doesn't even get to the twenty percent down for the seven hundred fifty K. So there must either been a family nest egg in there I'd like to know which one of them was spending it. Yeah. And by the way, that would have been a good yuppy angle of Like somebody' saying I don't want to have to ask my mom for money. I mean, if you ask me, Drake Goodman screams Family of fam layers, he's going his own way Right Kites. What happened to Drake? I heard he graduated from Harvard So You know, kites are really taking off right now. Drake thought this luxury kite business. Oh he was going to be an attorney No, it's going on the kite route. Big kite companies. kite mother seasonal business too. He loves kites. He's gonna do another round of seed investing. If you're in for the series B, let me know What do you have for what station where say anything Kyle? I got a young woman named Pattty. You just don't see that anymore. Yeah I hate when realtor will bring you to a place that is over your stated price range. I think is's dirty pool. It happens here. Yeah. But most importantly Guys, is it entirely necessary to have mister Watsonabi doing Tai Chi in the rain in front of the Bonzai trees? Aually racist movies. What are we doing? The only thing that's missing is that in the final scene when they're fighting Carter, Watanabi comes back and does karate and does a kick. And it's like nineteen ninety, We get it. The man is Japanese. We don't need the Tai chi and the Bonzai trees It's a little heaver. And being like, I will pay you back somehow and And it's like how they'reing they're constantlying in terrible situation. I'm out of here, try and su me madeade you some sushi. Yeah, what else could he have done that would have been Yeah, I didn't It even clock that. How did I not have that in my notes? It's very heavy handed. There's practically a gong there. It's just come on guys, we get it. You's Japanese Hans Grubber scale villain ranking Carter Hayes. I think eight point zer. He's pretty high up there. I mean a very he's a terrifying What if like, what if this happened to you What he got withith ten being Hans Gruber and one being the passenger fifty seven guy Here's what hurts here's what hurts Card Th three toy soldiers. Tw soldiers is three, maybe two, two sudden death Carter doesn't kill Anybody in the movie, which is kind of unusual And he doesn't give us the big old Here is my manifesto. No. The system is working against me and I will psych he does a little with I got to take care of my brother, but a tenant of the grouper salle is you got you got for a while and just tell everybody you're all about. You' one monologue short. Yeah, I have him. I love the character, but on this particular scale, he's at best a six. I liked it during that speech where he's like, you liked it, didn't you? Like livingven dangerously Ruffalhanna Ribner, Partridge overacting word. we don't even need to really go into say want out of here. I had Modine five Budwise or drrunk acting. Yeah. Yeah. it's all the candidates. If we did it as Oscars and there were five nominees, it's like and Matthew O'Deine and Matthy Modine and would just be five differentes When he turns off the utilities and does that dance. It's like the worst endzone dance you've ever seen that like ye it's an offensive lineman picks up a fumble and does one. It's I canntot believe they chose to keep that in the movie, but they did. Kyle, what's your flex category Um I have a new category. Oh I have the Pacific Heights IceCube Award for Excellence and intntimacy Coordination That move that they do to start it in which Beverly D'A Angelo takes an ice cube out of the glass into her mouth passes it directly to Carter Hayes mouth. He then takes it and rubs it all over her back and then she goes, so gentle. Like that is an unbelievable thrilling sequence. And my question to you guys, did it say in the script she removes a ice tonggs into his mouth two great artists We're just like, let's just explore. L you know what? L day on the set? Let's let's make something happen here. And there's two people whose reactions I want to that scene One is Chevy Chase, who watched that seems like And probably push for that shit in Vegas vacation And then I want Paccino's reaction, which I guarantee was o. And he like wanted her number and then mvent they. 'cause that is so sexy. and I just I love that they went for that. Baby you were on fire. Fire It's kind of Peter Northore a little bit M mostost effort put into a scene. Yeah.. Also Absolutely. The Ice cube exchange is against gravity, which is even more impressive. It doesn't go down from the top up against gravity. Very impressive. Impressive. in the frs. I think it's all li I think this is a piece I love it the movie and That Yeah let's fucuckking around here. Let's try something here. Let's just roll with it. Just keep rolling. Let's do this and it's just awesome. It's very. would you go that the Pacific Heights? The Pacific Heights IceCube Award for excellence and intntimacy cooordination That.' never been at it The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford, How does take a word. I didn't really have one except for maybe like I think Pattty should have given like five minutes of thought to sticking with Carter and becoming the new man Just because pretty hot. First of all, he shows that he's willing to get his hands dirty when it comes too renovations and demolitions. Yeah. And also like this is a guy with plans and ambition. He's not content just sitting around doing kite making good. I like that yourre pivot now is that people should stay with the crazy person in the. That was my idea. It seems like D Mournays just got it all thing for sh. Sould be worried that Ciara sided with the From Hell character every moieake, C on. I have ah I learn more about landlord tenant rights from this movie than any human being in my life? An story? Yeah I think this movie was incredibly impactful and doesn't get its just due U, I can't think of another situation Movie, TV, real life that taught me more than this did in one hundred and two minutes And that's it. What do you got Cal That's incredible. They once they get in, they have the right to due process and that's expensive and long and I completely agree with you. I would watch this to learn about that exact crime Um, Mine is really close to Chris's This is a better movie if the huge twist at the end is that Carter and Drake are working together And When Melanie is up in the hotel room and she's slipping through the documents, she comes across her boyfriend photo them together? He's a brother Yes. H name is not Drake Goodman. He's been and they're been working on this for months. Remember, they're not married and they make a point of saying they're not married like five or six different times. So this is relatively new And I think that they're in cahoots and in tandem. The fight was kind of staged I think Gm in the arm. Yeah. Yeah twice in the arm. I think they Drake Goodman caused the miscarriage. like all kinds of things, but the terror in her face when she finds out. Oh my god, they're in on it together. That's a better movie You could even have he decides he's going to be a luxury kite maker as to throw people off the s. And Carter's like no one will ever believe No And you play rugby, this is crazy. Will people believe this? That's really good She could have held the photo up and been like, Yes Um, casting what ifs. I only have one Christopher Reeve really wanted to be Carter Hayes, lobbied the director. and Sadly for Christopher Reeve, Keaton was man want to be in the movie and that was a wrap for Christopher Reeve So they don't they want to forreve in this movie They wanted Superman or Batman. Like that's pretty cool. ammazing two choices. Who would' have been the third person? Yeah. I heard Tobbey McGuire wanted to but he was like ten years old. Yeah, they can Look at the best that guy category It's fucking stacked. It is. Yeah is. We have Dan Hidea What misses. Wat Nabi played by Noobu McCarthy, mister Miyagi's long Lost L love and Karatea Kid too You c to you k kid two guy c Hellyes, I am. a beautiful story. The instruments at the end. I love it. Fortune. I'm into it Danielson, this time there for points for life. Carl Lumby, Lumley. Carl Lumley Um, Kagney Lacey cast member Al also played Bobby Sal and J just some of the Falcon the Winter Soldier stuff, yeah Jerry Harden, playing Bennett Fiddlow. You might know him from X files in the firm And then you mentioned Tracy Walter as the cockroach exterminator. Sadly, none of these people win. I gott to go Dorian Harewood. I don't know if he's a that guy. I think he was famous at one point Which guy is he Chris? He's he's the one buddy that he the one buddy he has's pretty good though.ight I have him winning because he played eightball in full metidal jacket. So he and Boddine were in the same squad and full metal jacket. that's good. Mine's not on the list either though I have two more Okay, go, do it do do Nicholas Prior is the hotel manager. You know him as the risky business dad and more importantly, Chancellor Arnold from nine hundred two ando. My winner is Luca Bercovicci. Yeah, who played a muzzin in American Flyers with Kevin Costner, the bad guy biker. and is just a home runun in that movie and then really never kind of bounce This is a good time to ask What is Greg's utility here Okay, Carter can't do that that demolition himself. He's helping out with. Ruin the apartment for no reason Carter needed a hand doing that. It's the studio apartment. needed some help What did you have Kyle? I had Hal Landon Junior when they go and do the the locksmith to finally get in The officer there with the patternered baldness. He's Ted's dad from Bill and Ted's excellent adventure. And that's like the only thing I've ever seen him in Deputy Van Halen they has one scene in this the year later. That was my guy. But these are a lot of excellent choices.. Really really loaded category. I think my favorite is probably Mr. Miyagi's long Lost love and Crow kid You know, Satau kind of fucked fucked up their relationship, I felt like. Damn Waiters a word I can offer you Beverly De Anlo, the Wat Nobies or the cockroach E exterminator. it I'll do it Bev Yeah, she takes it all. Recasting couch director Cidity. I can offer you young Denzel Washington as tenant that got turned down. rightight in his range. I think nineteen nineties is a little he' Is he famous at that point? It's post glory. Yeah Yeah. All right, How about Sam Jackson Oh ninety four jacks I have the Palma for this though. Yeah, hear. I think the Palma doing Pacific Heights would have been fucking awesome just I can't stop staring at theig gol shirt It's really it is distracting. It's really great. And you two are he so happy to be. Al looks like they're together watching the Chicago Bulls who Kyle has to the left of him You never thought you needed tun inach and Mason Storm together. Yeah. we got them Tw big threes in a row. Um Half by center research Carter Hayes drives a nineteen seventy seven Porsche nine eleven Career Targa. It's a fucking elite. It's not really research, it's just respect. It's just an elite elite car. This is my favorite. I was researching Melanie Griffith Joe Anne Woodward told a seventeen year old Melanie on the set of the drowning pool that her goals were to marry a movie star, have beautiful babies, and win an Oscar And she did all three Melan said she adopted the goals for herself She married a movie star and had beautiful babies But never win the Oscar. it's never to get nominated. Yeah Joan Woodward. you have a moment of Joanne Woodward moment like that with anyone CR Like where somebody passes Like James Cordens's like, hereere were my three goals I'm want to host a terrible World Cup soccer show. But gonna have my own latenight show. yeah What have I done of those? I don't know. just. Apex mountain, Keaton Yeah, well this is I'm going to say yes. Yeah, I think it is too Although' of Apex Mountain being a poison chalice. Sometimes like you make the wrong move from the apex, ye? For sure. Or the right move, sure Melanie Griffith no Matthew Mine It's a full mle jacket. I think it's the Kubrick little man I in the Kubric movie you gott to do that ye ominously playing with a razor H it ever been done better Um, I think of Kevin Spacey cutting his fingertips off Eevin and pretty Pauly slicing the the garlic It's close. Boy, Th those are two really good razors Razor shouts. Better creepy cockroach scene. Cockroach is notoriously difficult to work with on film sets. What's that stupid movie Joe's apartment right Jerry O'Connell? Isn't that cockroach based movie? Yes. I mustisted this as my hottest takes. Cockroaches kind of overrated. seemems super scary in a movie, but if you have to they can they can't bite They're just kind of creepy. I think they're like the scariest thing the world. I' kill myself. Well they're scary and If I Mr. Wat Nabby, I would have just off to myself. you're more scared of roaches than mice I think rats are way more scary than Raches. Yeah. Roaches, they're infinite and like they'll never go away. They just breed in your pipes. They've completely freaked out. And a lot of them can fly. which did you get them I've had a few roaches in my life, neverever like an infestation, but I hate him We had termites in Our first LA place and Oh yeah That's you have to tent it That was bad. You sent it? they just it's like out of a movie. they start multiplying, you see the wings, It fuc. Spencer Pratt was like, we're getting rid of roaches, you would have never vot. Sos I hit the do U L at you, Craig San Francisco movie houses no. done this before. Is it mr. Dfire U o mov movie houses.h yeah Doubt fire and like the stuff in basic instinct, all the. And I think full house on TV that onees. peopleople can take pictures in front of that Porsortia nine and eleven Cer Target, yes for seventy seven Evil tenantets of movies one hundred percent Uh annoying yuppies in a movie, maybe? No And then casual nineties racism sadly no Uh, okay Bruce or Hanks Cruz has got to play Carter. This is that's a ler. That's it I I have responsibilities Patty Crs Would have said no until they showed him the last scene. so he's going to run out of the JW Marriit ofbed. and he's like, what This would have beenu would have been like, this is like my Rriipley. This is great. Yeah Cruz would have caught them if he was running out of the the avenue of the Stars. alsoso Cws doing The IiceTube scene with DeA Angelo.. This is the same year that he did Days of Thunder and is taking a sweeten load packet up Nicole Kidman's thigh on the inside of it. It's like those are brother and sister scenes. I think he could have done it He could have done half ice cube followed by just them laughing for twenty seconds. Well there's also just a ton of cocktail, you know, like he could have thrown the champagne glass in the air, caught it, you know? Yeah, what would have been Crz' skill for this? the nail gun Like I worked with a nail gun for two months. No, I think it's mimicry. I think it's becoming different people to like steal their identities That razor blade too. he's working that working the blade time Yeah Yeah I the smoke. The cockroach crawing on Katan's fingers. Cus would have gotten into that. Yeah. Yeah, that's good The Rose from Titanic Award for character who sneaky sucks. I don't know is Drake Goodman qualify or is he openly sucks? Yeah. Yeah he openly sucks, right? or cross that up Best name for a movie from a race Horse Best name from movie for Raysaurus, Evil tenenant I think it iss a really good Kentucky Derby name G for. Not a great. for that is good. Unless you want to go a kite company. It just it flies luxury in kite company Hey, we don't get to do this too often. Yeah. Really it's for CR Dennis Peck relationship test. C Dennis have broken up the main relationship? No, but I'll tell you what, Dennis would have gotten that guy out of the fucking apartment They just needed a dirtier cop. That would have been the easiest way to do this is just like, get a copy who's like, I don'm give a shit what it says. G outt of here I think Dennis comes over. Uh the guys at the kite company job And what was her name in this Patty? Patdy Can't get that guy out, huh? What you guy what your boyfriend do Luxury kite company, huh? What are you doing now I get a drink? Yeah. Yeah. He's in. I think he's in the patty in two hours. Here'd like to ride horses Picketets Um We did a lot of these. Cardter moves in without a rental agreement. Why didn't Drake just open the door with his keys and kick this fucking ass all out before. I think the first thing doesange locks. open the key open the door U Here's an underrated one for pickingns. Yeah. Anytime in a movie or TV show, somebody thinks a cat's going to be good luck Oh yeah Never good luck. just just I don't think I've ever seen A thriller where a cat is introduced, but it's like, don't worry about it. Fously bad luck. cats You like in fact black cats are you to a place with liiz. if a cat was just outside the door look like I brought I brought this cat in, it would be good luck. You wouldd be like, get that fucking cat out of here. No. My wife and I currently have a beddting pool on the cat. in the Cape Fear TV show. Yeah, peeanut butter just keeps sitting there on the counter. I'm like Yeah, peanut butter's there And Carter Hayes' strategy is he's going to drive the them into foreclosure and pick up We thank get it I think that there was a twofold thing. I think it was there's the initial like, I'm going to drive these people out and then receive the property as like My civil like settlement And then when that seems like it's not going to work. I'll just shoot straight. I think he's still said in And then how did they restore the house the second time after they'd been cleaned out? living month by month? It looks beautiful. N new floors. Maybe the Danforth estate gave them a little bit of money to shut up about it. I feel like she should have had more money. from the hotel room That should have been like seventy five thousand dollars behind the scene. It looked like it was like a grand. Like it was a stack It was the stack of hundreds. Yeah Not enough. Any other nippicks I did most of them Not really. I mean, we've talked about most of them, but like the identity thief who keeps his entire life story in a suitcase and the con man who sends a postcard with a return address. Yeah. Do you have that in your house hereard? like just your scrapbook? Yeah Spin magazine and Grantland? Sequel prequel prestige TV all Backcaster Apple TV written all over it. All over it. I can't believe they haven't done it yet There was a twenty twenty one, twenty two TV series being kicked around. did a gender swap. So I assume I assume Carter would have been a lady cash flow to work too. I mean, honestly Fquel would haveve worked. Um Squel absolutely would have worked if you don't kill Carter Hayes and he just gets away Michael Myyer style at the end. I'm in for that. The Carter Hayes Chronicle prequel is good. but all black cash, youd then have a moment where you're like, I guess you're thinking right now, I should have rented to the white man. L it would be swip off of it. It's perfect Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Vergie the Florist, Zane Low Robert Evans do. Charles Nichol, the owner of the luxury Kut company Or someone else. Wh do you have CR? I just want to say up top I would pay to watch a movie where this guy tries to pull this on either Wayne Jenkins or Fergie as his landlord. You' gonna get out of this house for me. or I'm gonna do you the way I did your brother chemical way. H But it would be it would be cool to have Zaye talk to Carter afterwardsay Carter, talk about. You've extorted You've trespassed And you've identity thieved It's next for youen. What's the next con And is it all a conn This whole thing life is life for. What do you have, Kyle? I haveill Bill, I feel like I'm going to steal yours right now. but there's a there's a slideingoors moment when Carter Hayayses is running out of the hotel into the street If he actually goes right, he goes into a ballroom and a keynote speaker is Dr. Charles Nichols is sitting there and he's like, Cardo, I'm in the middle of this speech and Cartero goes You switched off the utilities, didn't you? You switched the utilities. afterfter I shot Drake, you were the only one with the acccess. Did you evict the water Nobies too? huh? Did you? And he's like, sorry, ladies and gentlemen, my friend Carthter Hayz that doesn't. that black guy. Yes. you st. Did application never came. so enjoy your coffee and dessert and we'll talk. Carter, please he's there. He's always there. That's a great one. I thought you were gonna do Gus there. No the gustp wasn't there. But the weird thing about the ballroom is at the end of it, Borat and Azimat running naked too. Like just the place coes down We could have done a little Ryan Ruco for Gurter is falling backwards, G her Just one Oscar who would have been good in honor of Modine, Super Ns fan Oh ye Just w ask her who gets it. I guess Ke I guess so. Not Han Zimmer. Yeah. many answer questions. I only have one Did these two losers stay together or was it I was like a break upp in the next? I want to know how long you guys thought they had been together before this movie. Like, you know, like up to the point of buying the house. Is this a one year When you're thinging I think it's really short. I actually had six months. I think they're very impulsive people. I think it's at least you don't buy house with somebody in this. I know you' smart. In nineteen ninety Yeah, it's like year two years, I think at that point I don't think he was with her when she got hurt during the equestrium race. They realize they have absolutely nothing to say to each other after about a week. They don't even have like a lunch scene where she wass like, I thought I'd surprise you at work. Oh no They don't seem to like each other that much. She's even kind of like, what are you doing in here when he shows up at the horse? They really brought the set into the movie Memorability you'd most want from the movie Kyle Um I want that little model house? I had Carters. I house was cool. The fake Drake Goodman ID stuff. So his visa card, like the old visa card. Yeah. the old. Oh yeah. The passport Finstock, Mrter Miyagi, were best worst life lesson. I mean, this one has a pretty obvious one. Don't be a landlord Well, person in, don't let do the S Luis. I'll pay you later. L get fucking money. Yeah. Yeah Kids if you ever hear the phrase, I don't have a traditional kind of credit, run. And that's not what you want. That's right before they mentioned their bank in San Antonio, you're at. Double feature choice, would you have KB? Okay, so this is interesting. I had Mr. Mom because it's really nice, fun Michael Keaton, But I have to tell you, I was watching the movie Pacific Heights on Prime, Amazon and It goes to the next movie And the next movie was Unfaithful And I was like Yes, and I watched the first half hour. It's like a conan. it's all that. So I went right into it and I liked it. two One was The Money Pit from nineteen eighty six, the Tom Hanks movie about That's a good one. Losing your mind, trying to save your home and the other was. A little bit different were the Roses just because it's like kind of being trapped in a house with somebody Sure. Yeah. I did single away female Could we do the roommate tenant shirtu Let me just go what do you have Craig for Double feature Pransformers. ormers were on rooses, honestly. Who won the movie? Keaton Michael Keaton, after Batman, another dub as a villain. Why I like this movie? Craig Can't wait for your take Here we go U Craig loves from Helm much by the way. These are what real movies should be. You can watch them at noon on a Monday. They're great. I liked what I liked about this one is that there was like much more mystery Typically it was like domestic disturbance or hand that rocks the cradle. and you kind of just know the motive from the beginning and you're just waiting to get to the end. I enjoy that this movie, they treat Keaton like jaws a little bit. And you're like, I don't really know what he's up to. I don't see him a whole lot. Who's Greg? What's going on in LA And I think it's why the whole mystery takes you down to L.A. and it's why that scene is so good. But I think this is one of the more satisfying from Hell movies because you actually get like the plot to take this person down rather than just the big fight at the end results in the villain dying. This was like, o, for like twenty minutes I get Melanie Griffith actually plotting to get back at this guy and it's working. I feel like that was more satisfying Also, this movie iss kind of the inspiration for the show beef If you think I mean, it's like a From Hell month has definitely got some of that. It's road raage, but for real estate kind of vibes. and it's very relatable in that regard. I also think it's kind of just a great look at how men and women deal with problems differently. Yeah This is like a great Men not being able to admit they their wrong movie Like I can handle this, patty. It's like honey, do you don't you want to just pull up a map and get directions?s likeike, no, no, I know how to get there. Like it's likeor. Yeah. It's a great men versus women dealing with problems moovie. Great call Thumbs up Youve enjoyed from Pel Monk.. I'm notving a blast. Yeah These are great. There's lots for which is may this is just the rest of twenty twenty six. What's not rll Yeah. Well, we've done domestic disturbance in the good sun H oxic crradle, a single away fema And there's a couple couple winners left. Yeah. There really is. g I've been scouting some other ones that I wasn't sure and ye how didd it go Ah, there's some bad ones I watched Save Mie on MGM with Harry Hamlin and Lassette Anthony. Oh come on, we can't do that it was I thought it was a or we have to like We have to do like the Re gofather somewhere in there. It was terrible to cleanse the palte. It was truly, truly awful. But I just you know, just look around. Now that you've mentioned before that I always have gotten so entertained by is caught from hell unlawful entry. And right what's really fun about that movie is Madeline Stowe's character is named Karen And so you get Ray L Oota going, you're a cockieser Karen. And it's like right after Good fellowas, It's awesome. That's Kurt Russell's in that, right? Yeah. Yeahah. then he'sesome in Breakdown. double from Hell dudy. Yeah.. Breakdown's one of our favorites.' a good modern from Hell movie. All these movies are from the nineties. What's like the? I mean, to the two thousand 's I't remember when's perfect getaway The When's that movie let me see. No, it kind of ended in the two thousands. Perfect getetaways zer nine zero nine. I just feel like this moved to lifetime and then they did every single version of them U An one that we've talked about doing because Van loves is the fan. with Robert Damero and Tony show and Wesley Sny with the worst ending probably of any sports football all time. but it's still really fun and it's Tony Scott Yeah. I mean, to be honest, is obsession kind of like the girlfriend from hell Or the boyfriend for now. Sure. Yeah obsession Yeah. You you think that could be in there? I would know I don't know if it's from hell, but it's it's pretty it would be pretty fun to do obsession as a rewatchable now This would be a good. We haven't done a twenty twenty six movie yet H no But it' probably be the Odyssey, right I guess so. Dune partart three, Bill, let's go. D three. He's gott to see the first two dunes. Could you go from hell Good morning football. There's a new person on the show. . Formerotball player. just whyed to hang out and then it just starts going sideways I have a quip But I amm not going to say it. Okaykay, because it would get me in trouble. There's another one that I think I'm the only one who likes it But it's a great, great, great from hell movie that I high to recommend. If you like my recommendations, sure bad influence with Rob Loe and Jo Oh we were talking about this. I think that movie is really good. It's Curtis Hansen's first movie. I just think it's excellent, but nobody's seen. That'd be c. I just did the entire Hansen filmography J. I think you would like bad influs Anyway. All right, Kyle Brant, this was a pleasure as. Thanks for jing us Thank you, CR. Thank youm family. Thanks, Craig. Thanks to Chris and Gahow and Eduardo as well, and we will see you next time The rewatch was