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Closing Thoughts and Final Plugs

From Reviewing Double or Nothing and Saturday Night’s Main EventMay 27, 2026

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Services not available in all areas. Call the open question of the week, Kaz! What's up, Jews? Congratulations, by the way. on your Knicks achieving the highest level they will ever achieve in your lifetime. Relax. Uh no, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'll be root for the Knicks the rest of the way. My question for you is what position Dan Housen play. If he were a basketball pl an NBA player. Uh, Dead Housing gives me Microwave man, Vinny Johnson, six man vibes. Like, I would've won him in my starting lineup, but you gotta bring him off the bench to cause some chaos. Yes. And get some buckets. I think I was thinking of him as like an enforcer, similar role off the bench. You know, just the sort of like Piston six man that would just come in and break somebody's knees, except he just curses them. That'd be great if there were rules that you couldn't use the magic curse except when you're like an active player in the game and he abided by them. That would be that would be fun. Has it making has it made you ha I know that you're excited that his curses have proven successful. If he if he curses the Western Conference champs and the Knicks don't win. Does this damage his legacy? No. No, like his Dan House might not ever pay for a drink in New York City ever again. Like that's how beloved He has become in the city. I'm he's so beloved in the city, I'm not necessarily sure if he's a baby face in Atlanta, Philly, or uh Or Cleveland anymore. Well he's got ESPN on his side, right? They're some Danhausen bit every day, it feels like and they're and and they're national media, right? So if they're just laughing about Danhausen, then I think everybody else has got to follow along. But the other big cities are that is interesting. Cleveland especially. They got if he goes to Philly, he gets treated like Shawn Michaels in Montreal. Maybe like he's definitely getting boo. But you got New York and you got Chicago. I mean that's that's like half the country. Yeah. Well why would you why would you want to get love anywhere else if Chicago and New York love? So Uh, thank you, Danhausen. Even if this is as far as it goes, uh you will be remembered in Valhalla. Okay, final question. I'm asking just a group of Danhausen questions. Yes. Is it possible that Danhausen is the most popular WWE superstar by WrestleMania next year? Popular. Well known. He's like The he's almost this is gonna sound like a Wildly degrading. Compliment. But he's kinda got like tickle me elmo. Potential. And you mean that in a bad way. And uh no, I mean that in the most complimentary way possible. I'm like He could be WWE's Tickle Me Elm. Were it's like He's the most popular person on the roster. But he'll he's probably never the main event or the guy that keeps the lights on. But he's the guy that is selling the most the most known Folks that like, you know. I may not know what Mattel makes, but I know y'all make the tickle me elbow and I need that took of me elbow this summer. I needed this one. You know? I need my Dan Housing merch. I need my Dan Housing makeup and shirt. Stuff like that. Like I Get the feeling that this might burn bright and hot and fast and then it's over. Oh really? You know, like there's there's there's a possibility. Like I don't producer Bruce is nodding in agreement in the background. I mean I I d I hope it does it. Like I I think that we met Danhausen in in Vegas and he seemed like an awesome dude. Oh he's an awesome dude And I won all the success in the world win the world for him. But there's always that risk of being so popular and things going so well that like you kinda burn out pretty fast, you know? So I'm like This time at WrestleMania, he might be J Uso. Like he might be like people might be sick of him. You know what I mean? Okay, but that's not a bad thing to be in the grand scheme of things. Um if you're Jay Uso, you're always one heel turn away from relevance again, you know, from the top of the card. It's it's it's less about the talent, more about the fickled nature of wrestling fans. They will love you today. And then if they feel like they're getting too much uh They don't wanna see it. I do wonder if there's some way just if all if all the wrestling fans love him then as much as they love him now. Just a make it look like he falls backwards into a Royal Rumble victory or something, get everybody behind him. And then you could like circumvent the crowd turning on him by just having him turn heel or you know just having him lose or whatever. There's some way to do it. But he but I don't know, I just to me I wouldn't shock me. I just don't think there's that far to go between where Danhausen is now and where Roman Reigns is, even his on his esteemed level. You know, if the Knicks win the title and Danhausen's on the float. That's pretty huge. Yeah, it's different though. I mean Damian Priest was hanging out with Aaron Judge and hanging out with the Yankees. Yankees didn't win anything. But you know, like it's this it's it's You're right. It might be different because it's the next thing. I I think the sky's the limit for Danhaus and I think that's the point here, right? That it like anything could happen. Is it like Sergeant Slaughter level where like in the in the in a few years you'll forget that he was a real person and like there's a whole generation of people think he's like A character on G. I Joe? And it's like, nah, he's actually a real guy. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Oh, you mean the guy who uncursed the Knicks? Well There you go. Fair enough. Let's start the show. Mask Welcome to the Mask Man Show. With Kaz, it's been a long time. Yeah. Technical reasons we didn't record Friday. Yesterday Kaz was stuck on a on the tarmac somewhere. Yeah. And uh And now we're finally back together, programming note, today being Wednesday, our second show this week will be on Friday. Unless Ben Cruz screws it up. I'm not sure. I just wanted to put it on somebody. Ben Cruz. Uh No, blame the Knicks and blame uh Uh Dan Housen who curse your airplane. I guess so. I guess he did not want us talking about double or nothing in our backyard of New York City. Who's your favorite wrestler, Kaz? Currently? Yeah. I know it's hard. We don't really have favorites. We have like obsessions, but like we don't think of that in terms of favorites. Bruce, I want your favorite wrestler's probably Javon Evans right now. He's probably the guy I enjoy watching the most. That match he had against Penton Raw was gr My and my and and my daughter's favorite wrestler is Penza. So we had a nice household of wrestling then. Bruce, what do you got? For me it's hard to not go Kenny Omega. Yeah, he's pretty great. Mm-hmm. Uh, for that AEW love you will be fired. But aside from that, um no, I'm just kidding. The um obviously. Uh Yeah. So Javon can I just say this? We're gonna talk double or nothing. We got a bunch we got double or nothing like crazy. I just w you mentioned Javon. He's getting serious. They're playing the one card they have to play with every um Cheerful character. Do you think this is a real change of character for him? Do you think that I was wrong to complain about him at the beginning and this is what they had in their back pocket the whole way? Well, he he did apologize to Pencer right afterwards and he got on social media afterwards like, Yo My bad guys kind of lost myself there a little bit. And I do like that if that's the storyline direction that they're taking though. kinda be a little bit of a immature little hot head. You know what I mean? Like that could be cool. Like think he's done a lot of smiling and and happiness and and and brought a lot of joy. And I think the joy that he brings to his wrestling is contagious and it's fun to watch. But you know, uh it's really cool to kinda see that we're starting to see a little bit of a evolution of that because I think That's human nature for anybody who's always like a happy go lucky, I can't believe I'm here. Oh my God, this is awesome. That youthful exuberance eventually turn into like Youthful mistakes and youthful sort of like ignorance and you know, so all of that sort of stuff. So it'll be interesting to see like if he loses another high profile match and he kind of Either doesn't show sportsmanship or just kind of Does something that's a little bit like ha, that's not something Do or something like that. And then him apologize again. Uh it it it'll definitely keep me intrigued and to kinda see Can we add him Can we add another layer to this where Michael Cole, who you know hates heel turns more than anything, has the baby face announcer? Can we do a thing where Michael Cole uses like coded racist language about him all the time? No. No Like Michael Cole is too old to understand, but he's like Javon's just acting like a thug. What's going on on there? And everybody's getting mad. Corey Graves is like, Michael, I don't think you know what you're implying here. No, no, no Don't even pretend to make that a thing. Because they'll just take it. They'll run with it. No, this isn't Vincent Man Wes not good. It's just not good. It's just not good storytelling. I agree. I just don't think it should even No, I agree. I think it w it's but it's just super interesting and it came out of nowhere. They l they stayed with with Babyface, like whatever Javon just long enough to win me over. A hundred percent and then they're gonna rub it in my face and I love it. Let's talk about real uh uh changes of heart. And since it's Wednesday, let's talk about double or nothing in reverse order. Okay. Bruce. Chime in if anything we're saying has a direct correlation to a match that's been announced for a night. Alright, or start waving broadly. I don't know, whatever you want to do. Mm. Um so we could discuss that too. First of all, double or nothing was An incredible show. I don't even know how long it was. I didn't spend a lot of time deep diving it. It felt shorter than usual to me, but I'm guessing it was not. I I saw a lot of people saying it was the best AEW pay per view ever. Which I'm not gonna take exception to. I don't think I graded it that uh I came out of it and I was just like, Oh, that felt like a kind of a like a Like what I expected their pay per views to be like. Like incredible ring work. But just a little bit more coherence in story and shape to the whole thing. You know, sometimes with these like create other but shows that we've created before and given all the stars to, it's like there's so m there's so so many matches. There's not a lot of shape to the event. Um But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it was just but what do you think? Is it was this one of the best was this the best A W show ever? I don't even know how to rank these things. They're so Yeah, like all A W pay per views always kind of feel like you get your money's worth just off match quality alone. Like it always feels like all right. I I was talking to Bruce off offline before, like I fell asleep. Toward the end of stadium stampede, then watch the rest of it, you know, on on YouTube. Uh ordered on YouTube. Like just watch the rest of it. Uh, you know, the next morning on the way to um on the way to Cleveland. And um A W fans can get a little hyperbolic when it comes to their pay per views, right? Like sometimes. The match quality for pay per views are always so good. That if you add to the event. Actual things happen, like actual stories gets progressed or concluded, or like big returns happen, or Anything like that, it automatically is like This is the best pay per view ever. And it's like It's a great pay-per-view. It's a great pay per view. I don't even like me happy with that. Yeah, like I'm even like going and and listening about shows that are just like It's the best thing ever, less than forty eight hours in about anything, like albums, music. movies like I'm always just like bruh let's let this shit breathe because tonight is Wednesday. One thing that we always say is that like it's all about the follow up. But Being said, I don't think I've ever ordered an AW pay-per-view and felt like I it wasn't worth the money. Like it wasn't a great show. It always is. They always Um WWE's done a great thing. that all their pay per views are bad, but by taking that out of the equation. Because after every pay per view With all the ratings chatter and dumb stuff like that that goes on the goes on in the Internet, it would be hilarious if after every W W pay per view the people were just like, I paid fifty bucks for that? No. Yeah. But there's never a question with A E W. AW AW is one of those restaurants where they bring out the entree and you just and they bring like the the to-go box along with it. Cause they're just like there's so much food on this plate, you're not gonna eat half of it. You know? Like and and you know, like a real uh glutton. They're basically saying if you eat all this food in one sitting you're an actual sicko. Yeah. And you're our type of people. But listen, I'm the kind of guy that's a You watch the buy-in. The pay per view. And the media scrum all in one day. You are a sicko. Am I invisible right now with my gray on gray? Is it just am I just a floating head? You do look kinda like a fool and I could sorry. No, no, no, you're good. I can see you. I could see you. Mm. Ah, there we go. Alright. See. This is why the guy who wears all black shouldn't get a black background. Um So so uh changes of heart, as discussed. The show ended. with MJF defeating Darby Allen. uh for the AW World Championship. If we're gonna keep going on the fancy food. metaphors here. I don't even know what this is. It's a MJF matches in general are always really good, the title matches, but this MJF Darby Allen feud has been like You take it you you take that last bite and you're just like, Mmm, that reminds me of Spain in the sixteen hundred. Whatever. It just like fl like it's all referential. It's all so smart. It's all I don't know. The storytelling that those two provide together is really on another level. Get all the Darby Allen stuff. And you get all the M J F stuff, but it just feels like they've been It feels like they have a storytelling chemistry that's really hard to put into words. Match was very good. MJ F one and then After celebrating with his new title and not getting his head shaven. We'll talk more about that in a second. Kevin Knight of all people. Who lulled us into complacency. Not unlike Javon Evans by having like Just A Goonie on the Babyface Backstage promo once a week. Uh-huh. And by the way, the winnie that he and Speedball had last week, I guess, was just the corniest of them all. And I remember just watching that Shamefully thinking Dude, A W does not have the tone. for these f these sorts of relationships. But but but if it's a setup for a heel turn, then h what the heck? They did it so well. I feel like the conglomeration exists. solely to make us unaware that baby face heel turns are coming. Because their relationships are all so silly and not like there's not a lot of thought there. It's just like good guys are friends. Um that now when something like this when you see when you see Speedball and and the jet backstage being like that, you're like, I guess this is how Tony Khan writes. And then he has him turn heal. I don't know how big of a deal it was. Ranking how do you rank MJF's title win against Kevin Knight's heel turn? W w I mean MJ's title win has to be a bigger deal, right? Yeah, but almost in the sense that we kinda saw it coming. Maybe it's a little tempered down. And the more of like where do we go from here? You know, it's like it's another of all the things in wrestling that are fake. The world title reign still goes on your Wikipedia page. You know, I mean it's still a real thing and it's a and I think MJF's just I mean I can't wait to see what they do with it. And also kinda s we just can't wait to see what they do with Darby from here. I mean, besides feuding with Um Besides feuding with with Kevin Knight, obviously. But like You know, he had the title. He ha he was there. Is he gonna stay there? And AEW do you get to stay at the top of the mountain anyway? Or do you just well, I mean Inevitably I feel like this means Dar I mean Darby Allen's gonna go gonna be disappear for six months again with some undisclosed injury, but regardless. I'm excited to see where they go from here. I think it's a big deal. Kevin Nineteel turn though. be a big deal. Do you think he's gonna be he's gonna have success as a heel? I mean Yeah, I think I do. Um They've kind of been teasing it for quite some time with Kevin Knight and You know, I always kind of wondered how How long they were gonna keep his ego in check with this tag team and more importantly Uh Darby as champion. We had Darby at the morning show on Hot Nighty seven. Right before double or nothing. And the first thing I I I I I asked him was like, Yo, how are you standing? Why someone saw you. You know I'm saying you're on my T V like getting thrown through several things. What did he say? He was like, brother, I don't even know, man. Uh we mentioned it with Danhausen and the kind of same thing about Darby Allen like Sometimes things like happen Big and Flashy and Uh And and and and they burn super bright, but they don't burn long. You know, and that doesn't make it any less cool. Because it was awesome and then it ended quick. Yeah, like I'm cool with Darby Allen. sort of going back and and you know handling these these these these feuds now, especially with Kevin Knight, 'cause it makes sense, right? Like If you're Kevin Knight, you can almost make the argument that like I'm not even a heel. I just can't believe that this idiot. You know who was the champion that was giving everybody opportunities. gave it back to this guy who we know is gonna make people jump through hoops take ten thousand lashes and Do you know uh Crazy You know, uh just all types of gimmicks to avoid, you know, defending his title. So I could I could understand where you know, I think the the the the go home before double or nothing was basically like Darby Wall rooting for you, man. Like not just me, you know, speedball like everybody, 'cause when Darby was champion It was like, you know, Simba and Pride Rock. Like the you know, everybody ate well. Like the Pride Lands were happy like people got championship opportunities, matches were w met something. Like the world title was defended on every single T V show. So if I'm somebody like a Kevin Knight, like I'd want a guy like Darby to be champion and not a guy like MJF, who famously makes it very hard. for people to to even have title matches against him. So I I I wouldn't even go all the way with a heel turn with Kevin Knight quite yet. Like I'd make it a very logical hey man. This guy, like, I had a chance and he blew it. And now I know I gotta go through MJF who I've already beaten. But you know. Now I know he's gonna make me jump through a million hoops like he jumped through a million of the hoops with other guy. So how's it gotta take out this anchor on you? Yeah. You know what I mean? So Um, I can see where they almost make the argument that he's not all the way hill yet. But then, you know, he's probably gonna do something way worse. what he did to make us go, Oh yeah, that guy's definitely. It'd be really fun if Speedball turned healed too. I'm sure they're gonna do the thing where Speedball's like the good friend, like no, what are you doing? I would love to see just speedball Mike Bailey, like drenched in blood. Just a villainous speedball. Do the McFoley thing where he only works like ground mat based wrestling for a while just to piss everybody off. Like that that could be a great look for Speedbow. Let him be the evil crony. Anyway. Is he gonna be like Bailey? It's funny 'cause his name is Bailey. He kinda he kinda reminds me of the old Bailey where You couldn't picture him as a heel because everything about him was just so happy, go lucky, cheery. Sort of thing. Um But yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I think they gotta I I'd love to see a speedball Kevin Knight like blood feud for a while before anything sort of happens there. They could make they should have a feud over who is turning heel better. Where like they're both just going out every week, just smashing people with chairs, you know, like punching audience members and stuff, just like whoever. Well, okay, maybe not. Antagonizing audience members. But whoever gets the most booze, like, you know, a month from now is the winner. And you just turn hell. They just get worse and worse. Anyways, but uh s uh MJ Farby was sort of Like we both suspected MJF would win, but they told the story competing in the moment. MJF. You not fooling me, yo. Like M J F carries himself as this guy who's like too cool for school, too Like everything else is beneath him and it's for nerds and stuff. MJ F is the biggest wrestling nerd on the planet. Oh god. Everything he does. callback, everything he wears. has some sort of significance to a prior time. But he's wearing like the sting influenced entrance attire. Yeah. Like there's there's always something that he's pay homage to, whether we notice it or not. He's such a wrestling He's probably the biggest wrestling nerd there is out there. Like. He's not even thirty years old, but like every match he has Is like a tribute to some Some match from the past that like the the casual wrestling fan might not even know. It's not until like I go on the timeline and see like frame by frame reenactments of like You know, side by side pictures of like, you know, things that MJF has drawn inspiration from that makes me go A W gonna think the lucky stars every time that that that that that guy's your champion. That guy's you know. That dude rustles for you. Because He puts up such a great front. But everything he does is four and six. There were a bunch of callbacks this week. Uh Samoa Joe and and Will Osprey did a throwback to Samoa Joe AJ Styles. Seth Rollins and Montez Ford did a call back to Bianca Belair, Becky Lynch. And their my and their very good Monday Night Raw match. Uh more on which later. Um Listen, I hope that they keep the M J F Derby feud going on some level just so we can potentially maybe get a payoff to the hair gimmick, but for now. The M J F his hair on the line gimmick goes in the Tony Con Hall of Fame. Alongside Uh but Jay Briscoe is a um Uh, Jay Brusco joins the Don Callis family. And What was the other one? Oh and and uh uh Swerve is E V P there was another one too. But we we're we're slowly putting together the uh the the Tony Conn Hall of Fame of like Dead end match stipulations that I don't understand why they existed at all. It's almost like on the show how I always say WWE will always tell you where they're going and you pay attention to them. And AW's the complete opposite. A W's gonna go somewhere and they gonna say some shit that's gonna Probably not pay off at all, but Well something pays off. The problem is they build the match with multiple payoffs, you know? So it's like you I mean in some ways it's it's smart, right? It's like you d the fans don't know which way it's gonna go. There's no predictive element. But at the same time there's gotta be probably you got it's seventy five percent of your fans there wishing to see a bald MJF. You spent a month building to bald MJF. There's this thing about wrestling fans that were conditioned to like If you're gonna sell me on this gimmick. Especially for the for the title, especially for somebody who's become beloved. as Darby Allen. I'm eventually gonna wanna see that thing that you teased, right? Pause. Like I'm eventually gonna see like If you're gonna say like M J F's gonna, you know, put his hair on the line and we're gonna watch for weeks as we like contemplate what life's gonna be like with no hair. I don't want to see just because you lost the match. be the reason why you don't take this guy's hair. Like like I still think there's a there's a there's a world out there. Well, Darby Allen and MJ have probably run it back one more time. Yeah. Of the streak that like Darby Allen just says. I I I still wanna embarras you, so fuck it. Yes. I'm gonna knock you out, put you in a body bag or something, and like shave your head while you're in a body bag. Just the head poking out? The sub, you know. I'm on board. Okay, what was your favorite double or nothing match? Easy one. Kenosuke Takeshta versus Kazuchka Okada. I think that was Absolute slapper of a match. Mm-hmm. Um You know, Kanoske to catch the man, but that dude. And So comically athletic with the stuff he does and You know, he's like we kinda all knew that like him and O'Cala were gonna be like perfect dance partners. For a match like this, and it that's exactly what happened. Um I thought that was my favorite match of the night, man. It was so good. It was it was it was Like the kids say, it was pure grats, as the kids say, but It was really, really good. Really excellent match. Really excellent post show angle with Fletcher and the Don Cows family and Yeah, and Fletcher's sort of like Man, like Can I pick can I okay, go ahead. Say this all the time with Fletcher, man. Like, but that guy is such a star. Yeah, he is. Like that guy's got such like I know we compare him to Randy Orton all the time, but like the dude just has a presence about himself. Oh yeah. How tall is he, like six five, six four? Big as shit. Probably just an AW. No, it can't be six months. He's gotta be like six four, six five. He's a tall dude, you know what I mean? And You know, like that place went crazy for. when he came out. And um Five minutes later, they they they boot him out of the building. You know what I'm saying? So Uh, that's that that was an excellent match and it got me really interested in Oh. Don Kallas family, Kanoske Takeshta, that we might see. Oh, he's got like one or two inches on powerhouse hobs. I know, but I'm looking at them staring down in the ring. He's got like two inches tops. Powerhouse Hobbs has got to be like Five eight max. Powerhouse Hobs is not five eight, dude. What are you where are you getting your height? You've met you met Royce Key slash powerhouse hobs, like Where are you getting your height measurements from? Five ten. I'll give him so so six one. He has to be is like six feet or six wall. It might be six feet eas. Okay. Let's see, next time we do next time we're doing WrestleMania, anytime we're doing battery of live interviews, Bruce write this down. We're bringing a tape measure. Just to And the scale. This is we're checking WWE and AEW metrics here to see how see if they're being honest with us. Um That match was Well w it was everything it could have been. Just about. You know from both of them that they probably have Just like with the some of the great AW and Ja and New Japan Matchups in years past. It's like you they put on a five star match, but you get the feeling that they have another star or so like hit like ready to go for the rematch. You know, and and I definitely thought that there's another level they could go to that they don't ever need to go to. That match was perfect. Um Speaking of perfect. Coban Gage win A W tag titles. Over F T R I enjoyed that match as a fan of all these guys, I enjoyed that match about ten times more than I thought I would. It was really well put together, and just enough of everything. And F and Cobin Cage winning felt like a huge deal. You know, it just felt like exactly what they wanted to get. They were smart to put that on first. I think Because it didn't have the weight of The expectations. You know, I think we all picked Copin Cage the same w probably Cope and Cage got the same number of win votes as as as M J F did, and yet the fact that we that that we knew they were gonna win, quote unquote. mattered a lot less in the opener. Um, but it was it was really good. Um Let's see what else. We had a couple of Owen Owen Cup matches. Athena advances, Osprey advances over Samoa Joe, very, very good. Swerve over Bandito, another weird like was that their whole feud? Was that why Swerve showed up in the old West? I'm not quite sure. But that all those I think are the right choices. It always depends on what they're doing with the Owen Cup, but those are definitely like the the right it feels like the right people want all those matches. This feels like a Will Osprey vehicle. Like He's either gonna win it or lose it in like heartbreaking fashion. Like the whole reason for it. When I say the right people won, I'm talking separate from storyline. Because it's like Yes, of course Swerve over Bandito. Unless you want to keep Swerve and Osprey a away from each other, so you have Bandito in and Let the a let the bandito win over swerve be the reason for their feud that's gonna follow. Whatever. You know what I mean. There's a lot of options you can go to. They've been telling a story. A little more subtly of w you just look at the bracket. What's the move Swerve's been doing for the past couple of months? What the vertebraker. Oh yeah. Will Osre's been selling his neck and he had to get his neck stronger. And if you look at the bracket, Swerve faces Bandito because he's facing his partner, Brody King, probably in the second round after Brody beats audio. And then you got Osprey versus Swerve at the end, where you got the man with the messed up neck who just came back from neck surgery facing the guy who's Laying everyone's necks out on on the mat. So it's like And I mean if for especially if you're trying to follow the zone finals, like you could for star power, hangman and osprey, swerve and osprey, feels like it's on that same level. I agree. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's really smart. Uh I did the Am I supposed to worry about Will Osprey's neck? 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Stadium Oh and and Mox and O Mox beat O'Reilly, which was a little bit shocking, but still O'Reilly looked great and I really enjoyed that match. That match was Well that well, I guess uh I was gonna say the like the least significant match on the card, but I guess the O in qualifiers are less significant in the grand scheme of things. Marks O'Reilly was just it was like no matter how significant you think it was, it was such a banger, man. I love watching those two guys wrestle. Um Welly's had his number for a while, right? Like he made him tap. Yeah, I feel like he I feel I thought that the he he has his number thing was heading towards an O'Reilly win, but no I mean, but and that's why I was I was a little bit shocked by the ending. But you're right. I mean Marshall I don't know, but you can't spend all your time training Will Aspirin and lose the Kyle R exactly right, exactly right. Yeah, we don't need the Mox can't handle leadership. Um Jericho uh or Jericho the her business elite and Jack Perry. One. Their uh stadium stampede match. Over the demand. It's been kinda understated. The MVP Jericho Friendship, union, right? Like they're not. When they were posing together at the end, I thought for sure Jericho was going down. But he just got the thumbs up from everybody. You know what I mean? Like I I thought I thought that was gonna be the big Batista thumbs down and then the entire her business lays him out, but no. And MVP and Jericho had real life beef at one point. You know what I mean? Like I could I could tell you I could tell you firsthand, MVP and Jericho did not get along some time. Listen, Triple H took the spot from MVP, you know? Like I mean from Jericho, sorry. He took the he he he took the the public enemy number one spot as he often did during his career. So um I don't know, what What was the highlight of Double or Nothing for you? What will you remember from this series of incredible memories? Um I mean I feel like it's always easy to go with the world title match, but I just feel like it was so I think we all kinda saw it coming that it's hard for me to be like, Yeah, I'm gonna remember the main event. Uh but I mean I really like the way they shot the intros for Stadium Stampede. I really thought it felt like, you know. Oceans Eleven type shit. And you know, the stories they told throughout the matches with the cameos and I thought that was done really well. Uh Does This heel turn does make Kevin Knight into something. I mean listen, there's some downside I mean, I don't mean to make this a negative segment, but like I I and so d don't take these as negatives, but like, you know. This could be the last time that we see Cope and Cage win titles. That could be the That could be the memory that we have of them. Copen Cage won in the titles is definitely uh another memory that I think. This could be Chris Jericho's last good match. Okay, we won't go that far. I'm just saying this could have been big for a lot of different reasons. Sheeta and Statlander, by the way, are wrestling tonight on Dynamite in a uh no holds barred street Philly street fight. It's we're in Philly. Um So there's some spilling out of that match. We got you know, we got more there. Uh but I thought I mean I dude, I just thought it was a fantastic show. I just loved it top to bottom. Yeah, hard to mention that show without mentioning that crowd. New York City really came out strong strong and that just brought the energy for every match. Like normally you'll get a match where everyone's like, Okay, we've been screaming for hours. Let's take one off. And they did not. So hey, props to them for that. By the way, they released uh totally agree with that, Bruce. They released the footage of how they snuck Uh Kyle into the into the building. Did you see this? Not it. They like put him in a wheelchair with a bunch of black b blankets over him and just wheel them in. Like, first of all, not that exciting of a you know secret entrance. But honestly, does Kyle Fletcher need to be secreted into the building? Like w with his was his Absence such a piece of a storyline that it w That it would have messed up his ab his his moment at the end of the Okada Takeshta match if we had if he had just walked in the door like a normal person? Am I crazy here? Am I the only one that's like why are we I barely knew he was hurt. Like his retre also, even if it was a big surpr meant to be a big surprise, doesn't sometimes like You know? Show him sneaking into the building, doesn't someone seeing it actually build the hype for that moment? Like, oh God, like we heard Kyle Fletcher's here. Someone has a picture of him. It feels like a big it feels like it makes more out of the moment to actually let people in a little bit, you know, let them let them in on the secret. I don't know. It would ne it would never have occurred to me in a million years, and this is why I'm not Tony Khan to be like Shit, we gotta we gotta hide Kyle. If somebody sees him, that'll ruin the post match moment after Takesh to Okada. Well, of course. I mean, shoot, the last time WWE did it was at the garden. And I I think, you know, New York fans they're they're posting up out here all the time. Yeah, that's true. New York's a little bit different. You can't have a small secret in New York. Yeah, like they don't There's certain venues that wrestling fans know that like they know where they at where they enter the building, where they leave the building, they know where to post up for autographs, all that type of stuff. So If somebody's in the building that hasn't been on T V for a while, like, yeah, definitely think it can ruin something. Can they not just figure out a system around like like it like Barclays Center always amazes me because Barclays is basically like there's one way in. Well two if you count the pro shop or I mean the the the swag shop. Uh-huh. But there's like eight hundred exits. Right. There's like all these it's a lot of arenas are like this. From your standing outside Barclays, you can't see it's like smooth iron and then all of a sudden doors just start opening. A limo pulls up and all of a sudden a double door opens up. Like, where did that come from? That's where the parking lot is like. If you ever go into Barclay Center, like when you when you park inside the center. Never done it, but go ahead. So I w I went to the I was at a I was at a uh Mike Epp's comedy show a few weeks back and they gave me some really good seats and they took care of my parking and it was like hey we'll give you a parking pass so You drive right into the building and like your car does like a a one eighty. Uhhuh. Like on this like platform and then like the elevator goes down and like these glass doors open like the the floors literally spins. You're not driving in a circle. Oh, okay. Yes. Like once you park in there and the door closes, like the thing Does a circle. door opens up, the windows open up, and then like you drive into You know. What is where where where everything is backstage, basically. Like you're automatically backstage since you get back. Wow. That's pretty cool. I'm just saying when you're tr when you're dealing with fans, this is the most minor point. Couldn't you just w wouldn't it make sense Just to find a random like trash exit and just put a big sign over it that says talent entrance and just everybody would gather there. You've got to be a sick person to really do. Absolutely. You gotta be a sick person to go that hard to be like, Yo I'm gonna find out who's showing up today because I mean we're we're wrong a lot of times. How many times I've done it. Did you see the uh Russell Crowe video? No, it's Russia. Of him dealing with with autograph seekers outside of his hotel in Cannes or wherever he was? He like he like and all these people were like screaming his name and he just gave him like a stern talking to. He's like, Here's how it's gonna go. I'm trying to get to the airport. So we make you split up in two so that people can walk past. And everybody stay back where you are and I will get to each of you. And he did. He signed everybody's autograph, took all the selfies. That's how you do it. But I was thinking W may need to hire him for WrestleMania next year or something. They definitely need some help with I mean some some people are really good at it. Like some folks I've seen are really good at like knowing how to handle like mobs of people. Yeah. Like, listen, I'm gonna get to every one of you guys, but there's no way you guys are gonna disrespect my time, like my private time. Like Like Th they'll make it a point of duty to be like understand you guys are Invading my personal space. So what we're gonna do is we're gonna settle we're gonna separate you guys, we're gonna do it this way, we're gonna do it that way. And I'm still gonna take pictures with all you guys. Or Listen, we're all gonna gather into this one space. We're gonna take this one selfie and all you guys share it. You know what I mean? Like that's the best way to go about it. If you just let the fans sort of curtail you into everything you need to do. Like they'll do it all day long. And where to get around. that you give it up that easy. So you're just gonna have just terrible experiences for as much As you travel. So Nah, I get it, man. You gotta hide some folks, man. Like shit. If I was a full time wrestler. I would hide Every time I'm walking into the building, like I'd be in the I'd be in the the hood. Don't you know that those fans pay your salary, Kaz. Don't you know how important that what you owe to them? Mm. Oh total spins. Maybe that's why Edge Maybe that's why uh uh Adam Copeland at his age Has a shocking comeback every month. Because he's just done signing the autographs. He just books himself in a way that he'll have to be snuck into every arena he's ever in. What do you think? Smart move? He's like as long as as long as y'all pay an Altar Bridge to do my song, man, I don't give a damn, bro. Play that shit. We gotta do it. The greatest surprise The greatest surprise entrance for Cope would be if they had Ultra Bridge come out and play his theme music. And then it turned out the bassist was just Adam Copeland the whole time. Like you and like nobody's paying attention to the guy playing the bass. And then he's just like, nah, that was me. Just steps out in front of me. Would that be do you think that is there any part of you that imagines Adam Copeland singing his own theme song? No, but there's plenty of other wrestles I imagine would be. Like big shows definitely saying one words the big show Sean Michaels did sing his theme song. Which other are there other ones that you think of as singing their theme song? I thought Belair was singing her own theme song. Yeah, okay. Like it that kinda felt like it was her Uh gosh, who else? Um I feel I I feel like there were more from our childhood. I mean there's a lot of them that has them. Like the Nation of Domination does do the chant, I guess, sort of at the beginning or whatever, but like there's nothing Oh the Shield do that. Apparently the Shield like say the letters, like Oh really? Sarah. Well yeah, they have like f footage of them like recording their intro. Say. All those letters and they say Shield at the end. Yeah. There now. And now. Alright, that's not still not the same as th singing your theme song. I always thought Bagwell that sang the American males one for a while, but he did. No, he didn't. I thought he did for a second. I was like ah Oh, I thought Sting did for a while, the old one. And he's like, he's a man called Sting. Down and he's a man called Sting. Oh gosh. Yeah. I think it's just when they had the vibe. Like I didn't think I don't think I thought that Dusty Road sang hard times. Mm. Oh sorry, that's Big Boss Man. Big Boss Man singing hard times. Dusty's promo. Dusty was uh the American maid, but like he that was obviously a woman singing, but that fit his vibe very well. Uh I never thought Hogan was singing his own theme song. Not once. Oh heck no. Um Anyway, we're way we're way off subject here. We have too much to cover. Saturday night's main event, Raw, what do you want to talk about in the WWE side? Oh, let's combine it, 'cause Saturday's main event was a long time ago. But it was a really good show. I will say that. I mean it seems like it was a great I really, really enjoyed it. Not great on the same level as Double or Nothing, but pr maybe my favorite Saturday night's main event. But everything was 'cause that's what it was supposed to be like. I think we had I think fans had too much expectations for that night's main event. Yeah. I think they really wanted to make it. You know, pop. you know, soon. But it like The intercontinental title, like being like the most important title or tag team titles being the main event like, yeah, that's what Saturday Night's main event used to be. That would be the main event, you know? And I think the biggest thing coming out of Saturday's main event into Monday Night Raw. Is At long last. Our longest of lastingness. Yes. We might be finally getting some mons for super solo pushes without necessarily breaking up. You know the street. 'Cause right before he put himself in that match, what did he say? He's like, I'm not the dude who turns my back on my friends, you know? Yeah. Uh so I mean he had a great showing with him him and Tez against Logan and uh you know uh Austin Deer. Austin Deer, yeah. Logan Paul getting that injury sucks. Uh, but Well, he shouldn't have joined the vision. Learn. Yeah, doesn't you know? That's like the cursed it's the cursed stable. It's like the exact number of days after like you someone joins, they get hurt. pinpointed on a day. By the way, figure out what that day is in Austin theory. Quit the vision for a week. Yeah. Get out of there. When your injury's coming around and w when is it? Like a month? Would that be Austin Deary's date? Um yeah, it sucks. That was that was my biggest takeaway though. Like I've done Montez thing. Well he he and said that the tag team match with combined with the injury. And you know, leading into Monday Night Raw. back and forth with Seth and Montez and Dawkins. Leading into the one on one match, which was Really good. Leading into Dawkins getting the the the one man concerto by Austin Theory and You know, Tez being like, I'm gonna need someone to wash my back. I'm like, I'm very interested. in seeing this Montes Ford Seth Rollins sort of dynamic. You know what I mean? 'Cause Set finally had enough on Monday. He was like, you know, I I It made sense for him to just like not be trusted immediately. But it also made sense for him to be like Bro, you're the street profits. Like only one of these one of us here has had world title runs, main events, all that type of stuff. Isn't this where you wanna be at? Like is this the Isn't this the level that you want to get to, basically? Like so Um very interesting dynamic between those two. And um I'm really interested to see they're gonna do with Taz and Dawkins now because uh, you know. The logo pole injury definitely puts a puts a puts a monkey wrench to whatever they had planned, but You know, Bron Breaker's the new tag team champion with Barry and Theory's kinda shown a new mean streak uh that that he's had and and he looked pretty good doing it. Um so you know, I think that was But Set is still and Bron are still gonna fight it. Clash in pair I mean in Italy, right? Yes. I don't think if it's announced quite yet. No it's not. I mean by the way, is Clash in Italy I know I I'm not trying to just be a hot take artist. Backlas plus Clash in Italy better than WrestleMania. You know, I've heard a lot of like X, you know, was was better than the WrestleMania tail takes this week. And Let me tell you something. That first night of WrestleMania. Not a l not a big line to cross. Not a big threshold to break. That first night at WrestleMania was rough. Mm-hmm. So if you're going around telling, you know, folks like oh man, such such a It's better than Rest of May I'm like Well are you well, you talking about night one? 'Cause there's been lots of pay per views and premium live events better than WrestleMania Night One. Wrestlemania Night One was one long ass commercial. A night two? Smack All timer. One of the best like one night events of WrestleMania that they've had since they split tonight to to to two nights for sure. But yeah, that first night was was a Sorry, like it was kind of a nothing burger. You know what I mean? Like I can't even tell you. What was what was the what was the night one main event? Wrestling. Cody and Cody and um Cody and Randy and McAfee and Jelly Roll. Randy's gone. But this is what I'm saying. Cody Cody versus Cody versus Gunter straight up for the title is better than Cody versus Randy at WrestleMania. Will be a better match for sure. Okay. We got Rhea Ripley versus J Cargo. Sound familiar? Roman Reigns versus Jacob Fattou in tribal combat. Mm-hmm. Becky Lynch versus Soluka? Mm-hmm. And a little match called Oba Femi versus a very angry broadcast. That's what's been announced so far. On paper. That's a hell of a That's a hell of a crime. That's a wrestle man. It's a Wrestlemania car. I was watching Soul Russell on Saturday. And I was thinking She's got and disagree with me, please. Of all of the new call ups. She's got the fastest track to WrestleMania. I disagree with you. You think it's you think it's trick. Of all the new columns? Yeah. I mean, golly. Three of those guys were already at Wrestlemania. No, I mean Wrestle sorry, the WrestleMania main event, I should say that. Oh yeah. I'll say this, man, Sol Ruka's dope, but like she's coming in a time where there's other super established main event women that's gonna be like really hard to break through. Like I think Sure, absolutely. Same with everybody. I mean same with everybody getting called up. I just think I just think it's so easy. Like you saw her wrestle on Saturday, she's wrestling Becky Lynch again at Clash. She's not my favorite of these call ups. I'm not making some sort of like personal testament here. I just think It would be the easiest thing in the world just to do Charlotte Silurika for the title at WrestleMania. Like let's just decide that now. You know, like it like I just think I think it's she's got such a red carpet rolled out for her. And deservedly so. I mean she's so, so good. She's really talented and she's a friend of the show. Yeah. But you know, I definitely do think There's definitely been a learning curve from her from NXE to the main roster. Sure. She still got a waste thing, huh? By the way, Mante Mantez looked a little bit rusty in his match against Seth. Not so much on Saturday, but there felt like Well I'm not even saying that as a as a as a as a put down for for Sol or Montez. I just I just look at that as such a I look at that as such a way to to give credit to the big three of Oba, Trick, and Javon, where they're like. There's been almost no hiccups with those guys. I almost feel like there was there was There was an expected hiccup with Trick Williams. Like I think people sort of expected him to have like clunkier matches or like maybe not like the smoothest matches or something like that. I think there's always that sort of narrative out for him that he's more entertainment than sports, which is I think is stupid. Hasn't had one of those yet. Every single one of those main event matches or main events. For the record, Trick Williams legitimately tall guy. Legitimately tall. No, he's what, six three or something, but still, he's a big dude. But I think Trick Williams. Trick Williams is smacked. Like He is the reason why people watch SmackDown. Like Cody Rhodes is the guy on Smackdown. But the reas the most sharp I see every Saturday. It's been hard to catch. Especially with the NBA playoffs, it's been really hard to catch Smackdown like as it's happening. You know what I mean? So like I'm popping. Here and there. But what I do pay attention to is like the stuff that gets the most views the next day. And if it's not Bloodline related. Yeah. It's usually Trick Williams related. Mm-hmm so He seems like the guy that I think has the fastest track to WrestleMania. main events. I almost think I even think that like This year's WrestleMania in Saudi. If it's still in sound. Might be the first WrestleMania in a long time that I think there's gonna be real debate. on which direction they should go. as far as world championship main events are concerned. Like are you gonna go with the tried and true? Are you gonna go with like Some super duper billion dollar legacy wrestler that you can only get in Saudi. Or are you gonna pull the trigger and have Trick Williams win your Royal Rumble and like Oba Femi be the world champion already. And go trick Oba for the world championship at WrestleMania. You know what I mean? Like that that's That's a WrestleMania main event they can have this coming year. You know? But It'll it'll it'll all depend on, you know, how did the rest of these three evolve. And as the trajectory is concerned. Love Soluka. Think Soluka's awesome. I think Trick. is number one on the list as far as like the guy most likely to run headline WrestleMania first. Hear me out. Who should we put under a mask and make them El Grande Saudi? To win the title at WrestleMania next year. Yeah. Maybe that's maybe that's uh maybe that's like Chad after he loses the mask versus mask match. Can we just like repackage Gable into El Grande Saudi? That would just and people would get so behind him? Um it has to be Sammy, doesn't it? Oh god. It has to be Sammy. Yeah. It has to be uh if he's generic. El generico Saudi? El Saudi generico or something like that? Like the generic Saudi Arabian or the generic Muslim? Or whatever it is like. Uh, it could be pretty great. Ah, man. I don't know what they're doing with Sammy right now, but I love the last real what do they call what's he calling himself? The last real professional wrestler. Last real good guy. Or the last real good guy. Love it. And they always try to play C Yeah, like us, bro. Like we're like the last good guys. The code is like Yeah, get the fuck out of my face. Like every single time. It's so good. In the nicest way possible. The most passive aggressive way possible. Where he's like Yes, I mean we're not the same, champ. Like, get the fuck out of here. Uh What else? It it we we gotta get out of here pretty soon. We gotta get our rest before our Friday show. Um is there anything else uh from Saturday's main event that you want to touch on? Ethan Page looked good. I love the way they're the pencil was awesome. Yeah, Ethan Page. I saw I forgot what I think I was listening to Busted Open and somebody said I think it was uh Oh, I forgot who said it. It might have been Lugreka, but he was basically like Evan Page is It was Mark Henry. A more athletic, bigger version of the Miz. And if you could be uh athletic bigger version of the Miz, like that is a great Great place. I don't know if he's that much bigger. I don't even know if he's bigger than that. Oh, he's bigger than the bits. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's definitely a little. You know what I mean? But he is a really good wrestler. I think the most important thing for him and I think I've probably said something to this effect before, but is the announcers the announcers continue to put him over. Even though he's a Weasley Heel and like whatever else, there's never a moment where you know, Michael Cole or whoever is not like he is a top level performer. And I think with someone like Ethan Page, you gotta really underline that. You know what I mean? It's like no, he's a legitimate wrestler. Even though he seems like a Miz character, you know, whatever. Page and Bree, so your tag team champs, um Uh that is the Uh Charlotte Rhea and Alexa. Yeah, which is the right move there. I don't even know if they're officially called the baddies, but I think we're just gonna we're just gonna roll with them. I think they've refer to themselves as the baddies, all three of them, right? Okay. Maybe. At least in promo. I don't maybe I'm just totally imagining that. Um what's going on in Raw tonight? We have a preview. I mean Dynamite T, dude. Oh, I know I I saw one preview. We're getting a five second pose tonight. Oh yeah. There will be a five second pose. There will be an MJF celebration. There will be a lights out Philly Street Fight previously mentioned. She to stat. Um Oh, we got some we got at least one Owen Hart match. Davis versus Jack Perry. Feels like a Jack Perry win. But I guess we'll find out how much of this Perry is the free agent stuff is real. Right around now. Mark Davis is just seems to always be in I mean, always be getting that light push. He's fantastic, man. Fantastic. And I love him in street clothes weirdly too. Like he just looks He should go do the old wrestler thing of having like the uh Like the T shirt tucked into his briefs. You know what I mean? Like, wouldn't that be a great backstage look for him? Just the old like Oly Anderson, like I have a very generic Don Callis family shirt that I will tuck into my briefs. Um Uh there will be a Jericho Ricochet match. Everybody's banned from ringside? Which means someone's coming to ringside? Um And oh we hear from Kevin Knight. That's a p that's a lot of preview for a dynamite. I mean a lot of that's kind of obvious stuff, but still. Pretty incredible. I need that though because uh The pay-per-view's always great. The follow up that's always like, Man, like yeah, I need to know exactly. I'm very excited about doing the show on Wednesday today instead of Monday because it feels like we get dynamite the day after the pay per view almost. I've just been asleep for two days, you know. Um I was I was in a Nix fueled euphoria the past two days. I've been I've My my wrestling, you know, I've I've watched it on my spare time, but Yeah, if you had the power I'm just getting out of my next phone. If you had the power to curse, like Dan Housen does in care. How reckless would you get with it? I'd use it for good. I'd use it for good. No, you would you not use it would you not use it for everybody the next play in the playoffs? I mean, it would be like it'd be like in app purchases on a game or something that you're into uh uh on your phone where it's just like you're you got the you got the you you got the willpower Most of the time. And then you're just like playing in bed, maybe after a couple of drinks or something, you're just like, Why am I why am I not just buying these? You know? I feel like that's what the curse would be. It would be like you you you you'd be really good round one, round ten, then whatever, you'd be at a bar and your friend would be like, I dare you to curse everybody in the NBA. Like, Okay, why not? I'll do it right now. Uh uh I would use it for good because like I would just use it for practical stuff, like Mohela, the people who collect like student loan debt, I'm like, Student Loan Collector, you are cursed. Or the IRS. You know what I mean? That's a good point. Dude, you'd be so over. You'd be like the most viral TikTok person ever. Yeah. Who, Caz do you have the guts to say you would be cursing to fix that situation? Mm. I like my job. I'm gonna be keeping it right here. But if if if You know what it is? It's the it's the person I can't mention. There you go. There's the answer to your question. I don't even have that. That's the guy who would get cursed. I don't even. If it's the person that I that I'm saying I probably won't mention. Yeah. Bell Wey. Um Yeah, anyway. Being able to curse would be fun. I'm sure there's a million things we left out of this show. But I gotta get out of here. I have a whole nother podcast to do. Um is there any br Bruce, is there anything that we like glaringly missed? That we should mention? Not that I can see. I mean you covered everything that happened in the two big shows and we we saw what happened on Raw and we got Tonight so far. Uh Let me ask this question, just to close things off. We touched on both of these before. Kevin Knight heel turn versus Takeshta getting kicked out of the Kyle family. We'll call it a face turn. What's a bigger deal? Bruce, you can chime in too. Um So they cover that heel turn. Kevin Knight's been somebody that they've been building for a long time. But they've been building Takeshda as this like up and coming baby face even longer, right? Yeah, but Secretas already had like he's had moments already, you know what I mean? But this is the moment we've been waiting for. I don't disagree with you. I'm just arguing maybe. I think I would go I would go Takeshda. But but who knows? Bruce, what do you think? Well they main event it. The main event heel turn's gotta be the more important one, clearly. Well, he wasn't in the main event though. Well They closed the show with all with his face. It wasn't exactly it wasn't exactly Seth cashing in at WrestleMania, but it wasn't exactly not that, you know, but into but it but yeah, it wasn't that big. Bruce, what do you think? I think Kevin Knight turning heel's gonna do more for his character than Takesh turning back baby face will do. Like I I've seen Kevin Lean Heel and some old best of Super Juniors and I was like, Oh, okay, this looks like it should be pretty fun. So I'm like It will be more transformative to him 'cause Takesha has a baby face originally. Absolutely incredible. He was fun as a heel, but like You could hear in that match like the Fans wanna cheer him. Like I'm gonna go Kevin Knight just because I think that he's meant to be a heel. Make sense. Does anybody know Kevin Knight's real name, by the way? Kevin L. You're right. I didn't think you would know that. Uh Kevin Heights like a great fake name. Uh anyway. All right, let's get out of here. Kaz? Would you like to get some plugs in? Yeah, man. You can catch me on morning tomorrow, every Monday through Friday, six to ten a. on hot ninety seven in a YouTube live. on uh eight AM and on uh all your uh fast channels on Hot Nighty seven T V. Brand new episode of seven p.m. in Brooklyn is out with uh God's special guest, Mojo Brooks. Very, very funny comedian. Check it out. Himself, Carmola Anthony, myself, talking shop. And uh man, just shout out to everybody I kicked it with this past week in uh Ohio for the Um, you know, uh Eastern Conference Finals, you know what I'm saying? All the floats and chase. Lots of wrestling fans out there, so they were hyped that not to just talk basketball but to talk graps as well. And uh yeah, man. That's all I got, bro. We'll be back here on Friday with your official mojo rankings. You got Mojo Brooks, Mojo Rawley. Mojo from the X Men. Uh Mojo Jojo from uh Powerpuff Girls? Not familiar, but great. That's a that's a good one. You don't know Mo Mojo Jojo? I never had a Powerpuff Girls phase. My kids never had one. I just don't I stay just missing out. You're missing out. Um There's gonna be more mojos out there, right? Um oh yeah, Morance Garifus join joiner, all widely known as Mojo. Okay, sorry, that was terrible. Uh thank you, Kaz. Thank you all for listening. Thanks to our producer Bruce Baldwin, thanks for EP Bin Cruz. Um we'll be back here on Friday. All curses are Formally lifted until then. We'll see you back here on Friday, humanoids. Peace. Uh

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