Trick Williams and Wrestling Wedding Culture

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In Philly, watch the T moobile Homeeruns be live on Netflix Monday, july thirteenth at eight PM Eastern five PM Pacific Cold open question of the week has What's up shoes? What is a bigger world title victory Samy Z a at night of Champions. or will I spray it all in when it when it inevitably happens. Mm Just because you said that, I want it to not happen now, like in the Roman Reigns Um Even if they both happen I Bill Okay Persally speaking, I'm going to say samey Z. Sammy Zane slash Lenerico. I told the story on my IG stories live. The first ever non WWE show I've ever been to Best in the world at Hammerstein Ballroom, Chris Ho invitited me of my God, Mio Sparks And I saw E Generico Russell Claudio Castignoli. And I thought, what the hell have I been missing? Was it Claudio? No. I think it was u I think it was it was Shelton Benjamin. No, I forgot exactly who it was but anyway I saw El Generica Russele for the first time. That's the whole point of the story. And I was like, what the hell have I been missing This entire time. He won the Ring of Honor TV title that night. And I, you know, and then my first WrestleMania after the party I ever went to Uh I saw Unmased El Generico. and I was like We were in a bathroom And I was like, El Generico. and he goes Oh, o Fab and covers hisace It wasn't Saby'sZan yet likeike it wasn't anywhere. but like Saby'sZ went in the WWE Championship Extremely personal to me, awwesome moment. I probably would have picked him anyway. because for as belongs, we've had this show, we've always talked about thoseose type of Daniel' Brian Uh, you know, miracle gu never going to win the WW Championship type of victories that we got one of those this weekend. So As much as I love me some some brve and will I spray. I think Samy's is massive even if it last Well it might not it might not surprise you to hear that I totally agree with you on just about every point. I was kind of hoping you would pick Osprey because I do think that there's a reasonable chance that I think there's a strong likelihood that if he wins on Like in the UK win's that belt. They've been building to it for so long that it'll seem like a bigger deal. It'll feel like a biger deal that there'll be a lot of people saying It was a bigger moment at the time That's what I thought you might say. and to that, I was prepared to say Yeah, but over the long arc of history W win Wspr it may win that belt ten times, you know, Samy Zay, this is like the biggest moment For enye sllash E Generico is as important to the non WWE wrestling canon As anybody there is in my opinion. you know what I mean? Like this the the ability of Ring of Honor to stay relevant. Uh just That whole world of outside WWE stuff that you just never think would translate to WWE. The fact that Samy an has got this popular without even having to wrestle on the mask alone is is One thing I never thought I'd. I think it's impossible to evaluate Samy's Samy's legacy without Kevin Owens And and they're inextricably linked. I think bloodline Lok. Well no, I just mean like you're saying the most important non WW wrestler. I mean, you can't say Sammy and not just Yeah Samy and Kevin. you're right. You're absolutely right. But that you could conceivably say Kevin and not Sammy, but I don't think but but the relationship, the fact that like like Kevin legitimized Gerico Yeah And Gerico brought like a layer of humanity to steam that what wouldn't have been there otherwise. R And of human rivalries. the three rivalries in non WW wrestling that Have given the preface of Oh my God, you gota go watch this thing is Chris here on CMpunk El Jenerico and Kevin Steeen to me and willill Ospay and Ricochet Those are the three like outside I mean, I'm sure there's something else but that's a solid. Just to me Just to me. N even not speaking for all wrestling players What about Keny Omega versus the Child? O versus the inflatable So I'm talking about long standing rivalries among multiple matchesult Keny fucking hated that kid. G k. To be fair, that kid definitely did have a comment Well, and a lot of people don't know this but that kid grew up to be Zackach Saber Junr. it was came full circle last night. We have a lot of wrestling to talk about. Let's start the show she ask me chance me get you she askask makeaking sure askish askks man Welcome to the Mask Man showhow with Kaz. How you doing, buddy? I'm doing good shoes. How about yourself, man? You look energetic. I'm guessing you fell asleep during the AW show. I sure did. I was like I holding. If you can't see behind me, I got a morning show to do. so AW pay reviews the night before. Yeah, more of an afternoon watch for me I was physically holding my eyelids open through the main event and I don't think I definitely fell asleep for a chunk of it It was a fantastic show last night Um But we got to go in sequential order here because the most important thing to say Something I know you've been you've been wanting to say for a long time which thank God for Saudi Arabia. That country finally earned its stripes Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really had a bunch of notes. I was like, this is the first Audi paperview that feels like not only like an actual paperview, but feel but is like interesting. It's like the camera work felt interesting The sound had its issues, but there was that, but it definitely had a more when for the crowd sound, it was miced in an interesting way or the shape of the arena was interesting. The whole thing felt sort of unique and had a little bit of antic energy the way it was done Um It did seem like there were a lot more backwards baseball caps in the crowd than I remember there being in the past, but who knows But regardless, that crowd loves Sammy Zayan, Samy Ze loves that crowd and holy fucking shit dude, Samy Zane is your WWE champion? likeike how crazy is that we talk through the whole thing you could have told me with one hundred percent certainty that Sammy Zan was going to win and I would not have known that how I would not have been prepared for that moment. We spoke about it at length the last the last couple of episodes And frrankly, the last couple of years, this is the time of the year that WWE just tried shit. Like there's something that's been bubbling that's been like it has officially been tried. Yeah. Shit has officially been tried. All right. It's always right after the finals right before suummer sllam right in the dead middle of the summer where like the there's no NFL football. There's no Monday nights that you got to fight for. There's a very concerted effort. to do something to get people talking around the end of June or the beginning of July. everyvery single year in WW And this is it And it couldn't have come at a better time because I think anybody would agree WWE needed a real swift kick in the nuts far as like somethingomet just that gets you talking again at the very least. And u This is it, man. I think The way we've sort of saw it and I think the way Samy Zayn been the centerpiece of Smackdown for quite some time without necessarily being quote unquote main event kind of l you to believe that He's going to find his way to take that championship somehow. And what is the I mean is he the number one in the category of like dudes who you know, deserve a title, but have as of yet not gotten really to sniffed tight likeike have you put Well, that clubhouse got a lot smaller with him out of it. I'd have to definitely think I mean, like Fin Fin won the t R but let's put Finn Finn's got it before. talk about people who just never won it. No, no No, no, no, we got it. let's just say long suffering. baby faces. So Finn LA. Kight, Chad Gable Samy Zan prior to Saturday. Who else A Mm All the other people I could think of are young and you kind of get the idea that they're going to get it one day. you know. And or they went to AW, right? Like that's the Like I'll be like, I'll make Caudio or Rusf, you know what I mean? likeike one of these guys, but You know, Sammy's hit different because Sammy's Um, Somebody pointed this out on my timeline and forgive me for not properly crediting the person who said it, but Samy Zan's the first Black and gold like his career started I thought that was going left. goo ahead his career quote unquote starts in NXT. like Brand new guy Brand new name. You know what I mean? He gets he gets he gets fed named from El Janeerico to Samy Zan and was like the first real baby face of triple H's bllack and gold NXT, which has gone on to be defeinitely without a doubt the most influential time in the current era of professional wrestling. whether they've gone on to be AW whether it was Dusty Rhodes influence, whether it was Cody Rhodes not influence W. whether it was whether the indie wrestling world's influence at Aple H just like, you know, open up the barn door to Word all that, you know, it was the first time I think it was it was It was televised in that sort of way. So I think in some way, shape or form You kind of always felt in the back of your head that tririple H was going to do right by Samy Zan at least once. You know what I mean? And And that's because anybody who watched that original Black and Gold NXT the same way I felt the first time I watched El Generico and Ring of Bot. I'm like what the hell am I missing? But I'm watching at those SamyZan and Cesaro matches that Njio I got to go to Hulu, I got to go to YouTube. I got to watch What's going on down in the perform whatever they called the folesale back then. You know what I mean? L to come all the way here now It's u It's dope to watch. So that clubhouse long suffering guys who have never won gets extremely smaller now likeike Is LA Kight the leader of the clubhouse? nows the guy that were're also to wait in on I feel like you I feel like if you count Finn, let's just say Finn redhirted for that one day championship r. R championship. It does not count towards the official tally because he was not an active wrestler that year. U Yeah was above L.A K Night, but but certainly if we're just gauging by crowd reaction, then L.A Kight's in the lead. What did you saying? Is who in there? Jinceuke Nakabor is he in there I don't think youered around the top long enough to really be considered there, but I mean sure. I mean, there's so many people that ote,quote, deserve a tit Um That's everybody sort of you know, Th of think of all the hard work that like Sake one Sugars has put in his long career. He deserves the title. Well in a vacuum, I guess. Yeahah Good showing by him getting absolutely murdered Uh, We get so much wrestling discussed. Gonna gonna to stick on Samy Zane for a minute. There is something strange about Sammy Zann's I mean, part of the reason why The answer was like he seems less long suffering than the other people on that list is because He's always at or near the top. Like he or I'm having to say that He never feels like he's treading water. He never feels like he's wasting his own time Right? Like the most time wasting period in his entire WW career was, I guess the collective A little bit unclear as to what degree he was hurt. I know he was healthy for a lot of it, but when he was managing the aforementioned Nakamora and Cesaro? That was the other member of the collective D But that when Sammy was just a full time manager, obviously he was a little bit underutilized a lot bit underutilized in the sense, I mean, in the past five years, like has there been a moment where Sammy ay has felt like they don't know what they're doing with him. I mean, if anything else, Samy and gets sho horned into, you know top top tier or you know, one B tier storylines more than John Sena did love the Samy Z is Samy Zain is the king of Intercontinental match is looking a little bit a little bit ify for WrestleMania this year what's the biggest star we can give that belt to before the match. Oh, Sam he's like he's always kind of finding himself in those situations. I don't know if Shoehorn is the right term to use because I feel like Samy Zayn's the most I don't even know if I'm im the word correctly, but he seems like the most deliberately used wrestling. Like he never seems like he's just sort of like there for no reason. L there's always a very absolutely true. straightforward point with why he's involved somehow And that's why he doesn't suffering. much like his buddy Kevin Owens. It's like you know, Kevin Owens can go it literally can go a decade without a worldld title. Um But you know, when he's feuding with Roman Reigns, it feels like the most important thing ever. And when he's doing whatever else he's doing. when he's yelling at Elias backstage, it feels like so important. It's hard it's hard to say he's underutilized. I mean, obviously you can make the case that he or either of those guys or any guy from that matter should be Rick Flair just like holding the belt down for a decade. you know like whatever. But the reason why the reason why it seems like that is because, you know, you got to give credit to Be somebody who could take anything and make it interesting. Like think of his last like four or five WrestleManias, right? Like he's he has a comedy match at Jackass that turns out to be like one of the comedy matches ever. He main events tax team match, main events of WrestleMania, night one, but still a main event What When we look back, this is so I'm sorry for ass minutes when we look back in ten years Which match is going to be a big is going to stand the test of time better. Jhny Knoville versus Sammy Zan. Kevin Owens versus Steve Austs Oh Oh, I mean That's a toughs That's an honestly tough question. I'm not even going to lie. like I don't That's honestly a tough question. I I think of then Austin's last is that going to go down as Austin's last match? If that's Austin's for real deal last match, then I would say that, but The obvious better match is Samy Zan and Johy Knoxville. like read to which that works. Well I mean, I don't know. it's the same thing. Austin versus. I could show KO was such it was a deliberate cluster fuck and it and it felt it Vince's involvement and everything. I could show Austin and KO It's a casual And they'll love it because it's Stone hold Steve Awuston and it's last match. And we get to see the greatness of Stone hold Well and it's heavily slapsticked. I mean, it' it's heavily slapstick.. I can show somebody who's never watched wrestling before. The samey Z Johnny Knoxville match and I dare them to not be entertained by it Like it's it's flat out just entertaining. I don't need to know nothing. I don't need to know the backstory. I just see giant hands D D Jhnny Knchill who's promoting a movie right now comment on Samy Z's wind Bruce? That's some kind of bonkers if you didn't. Nowm I notm worried that a falling out Oh man, I would hope not. I would hope not. Well we'll see I'm sure somebody's going to ask them And this press runs for Jackass the last and the final, I think is the last Jack It was of all of the people in Szan's history. Kevin Owens obviously number one But if someone else was gonna come out tonight and give him a hug, Johnny Knoville would be number two on. just be like We've both been through a lot. We both had our ups and downs, but we're both celebrating huge wins right now.ating Hello By the, J Johnny if we're going to really keep the Sam this is the next this is where this conversation is turning now Is Samy Zain still a heel after winning the title as he did in front of quote, his people in Saudi Arabia Uh, I mean and and I mean, he's the big I don't know if I said this when we talk last, but I but I said it I think I texted somebody about it's like the problem with Sammy winning is that they're on this very deliberate arc towards Samy's heel turn or twin or turn or whatever they're doing with him. And as soon as he wins We all remember that's he's our favorite baby face wrestler of all time Right? So It's going that's going to be tough. If they're going to go with the heel turn You could do a lot worse than having Johnny Knove as your manager or your mou your mouthpiece But anyway, what do you think? when Samy comes out, Well, I guess he's not come is he going to come out tonight They have to they have to take a b Mbe they hold it to Smackdown. Maybe I think they got to bring him out tonight. I don't know. if you're if you're this is what makes it interesting and why the San thing is so interesting because Opa Femiin's King of the ring. Eil Skywins quQeen of the Ring, she immediately says, Live Morgan, running to back. All right. ot the graphic. We're by the way, just for the record, I got so much wrong, but I'm glad about it because I feel like I reset my brain. Oba Femi did win. So now we're going back Clean as a whistle And I'm on raw Netflix like yeah, I want a picture. of Roman Reigns as my world Champion. Samy my WWE champion and Oba Femi. standing in between them and just give me some TV magic and just say like, all right Who do you want? Do you want this guy or do you want Dude you called out the day after the WrestleMania, You know what I mean Roman and Sammy. haven't spoken to each other in a long time. Now they're both world champions. likeike how's that going to go? Well, okay. so Sammy said in his postmatchom we shoulduckke with a post match promo We talk last week about whether or not there'd ever be another Aesin three hundred sixteen promo and who'd be able to cut it. And as I was watching this promo, I was like, oh shit, Samy's going to answer. Then they go to Rosenberg in the basor in the studio show and he's like and he said that basically. He was like, if anybody could have if anybody, you know, if we've ever seen it, here it is right now. I went back and watch it later that that night and then again several times over the weekend It's not in the same stratosphere as Austin three hundred and sixteen, but it's It was a moment That was in so in almost every way so much bigger than Austin three hundred and sixteen. I mean at the time Despite the story, go back and read lookook at listen the book of Wrestling The Dawson three hundred sixteen promo wasn't exactly as big a deal as they pay it to be right now But it's not like anybody's listening to that And the vast majority of wrestling fans were not watching that and thinking Oh. now he's world title material. likeike we didn't even have that mindset back then, you know He just won the of the ring too, which is not the world title. like Samy Zan Sammy Zane winning the title was clearly a much bigger moment in time. And so the and so the promo, they harnessed it. He said exactly what he needed to say But one of the things that he said was I don't care if I lose this title tomorrow I I will still be Samy Zan WW Champ. M it What do you put the What do you put the over under on Sammy is going to lose his title tonight Not even on the show, but he could being too on the nose with it. fans are being two on a nose. Samy's been to on a nose Bck impending, you know, shadow of Doom has been so on the thoseose All this stuff sort of just leads me to believe in the same vein as JC Jane The same is going to hold the WW Championship for a long time. He's probably going to hold the WW Championship until Saudi Mania in WrestleMania just because Nobody thinks this guy is going to hold the title for long. Now if you want to get Brock Lesnar involved, I'm sure there's a triple threat match that could be, you know, figured out into there with in Minnesota, which is possibly could be his last match, whatever and and the only way to get to keep to get the buildilt on amy. I mean, I didn't even think about that and I'm not even sure Lesar and triple threat Brock Lesnar is my favorite Brock Lesnar there is. So I mean, either way That sounds fun, but we're being to on to knowose. peopleeople are too sure he's not going to have his brain is going to be really quickly and Brock's going to get the title at Summer sllam or before Summer sllam So he could walk into Minnesota as Chapen for the last time or wrestle for a Chap. the one good thing the one the if you had to take one if Sammy lost the belt tonight in a squash if Brock just came out and tore his face off and won the title The one good thing that you could take from it was Samy Zin could just start wearing transitional champ t shirts and make a billion dollars. and just start acting like being a transitional champ is a hugege badge of honor. Just like I am the transitional champ in WWE history, you know, like whatever just make it. But anyway I don't I don't know what to think. I think having, first of all it from him winning King of the rank. Congratulations, Patron saint of the Mass Man showow Oba Femi It's weird I was talking about it was some folks yesterday and I was just like, Dude, if it were up to me I would keep openf me away from the worldor Tide for as long as possible. It's like Mind him winning King of the Ring But if it were if it were up to me I would have him wrestle I would have him wrestle Lesnar at Summer sllam, not for the title. and find some excuse as to why either he uses his king of the ring Championship match or championship thing to call out Brock Lesnar instead as, you know, some it would be a weird wrestling thing. orr just have Rck Lzner beat the shit of' ha and say, let me put my title shot on hold for a minute and fight Brock Lesnar I would keep open I mean, listen, Oba Femi walked in the door as the most WW champion champion looking motherfucker on the planet. treated him as such since he got there The rest of his career is going to be how do you keep this guy away from the title because he's undertakeerisk. He's like, hey, he's not a division killer, but there's just no reason for him to have the title you know and and when he and I think that The most compelling long term story you can tell with him is just shit keeps getting in the way of this inevitable win. If he got in the ring with Roman Reigns at Summers sllam, I would one hundred percent think assume that Oba Femi was going to win. That's kind of incredible they built that and it's also a problem. You know, it's like you can't just have Hul Hogan running roughshot over your company now. you got's I'm just say you could you could do it to the hundreds of millions of dollars. Dave couldn't disagree with this take more. I think Sometimes you have talents And you run the risk of waiting too long. you run the risk of assuming that audiences are patient enough. I don't actuallyree. o. In this day and age where you know He's already waited pretty damn long to be honest. likeike there were people that were saying he's should the one the Roy Rumble. Yes. There were people that were saying this year This year he should have won the Royal rumble and won the world title at WrestleMania. Yeah. And I'll tell right now looking at putting at Alabama. I remember you were saying this person you've never heard of should be world Champion. At this point last year point in NXT when he walked up when he walked up to Cody Rhodes leading up to John Cena's last match at Saturn Kight's Main event Folks were like that dude is world championship ready And We And guess what? they we fall back to that level of thinking so much of being like somebody we got to wait. We got to hold off. We gott to hold it off And do that so much with so many people where You could run the risk of losing the interest of the fan. You could run the risk of Oa Femi not being interesting anymore.e I don't disagree with youore, but this is but this is the bouncing act in modern wrestling. You put the belt on them at Summer sllam and you run the risk of people saying Oa Femi, your most valuable, your most valuable commodity is the new John Cena or the new Roman Reigns big dog and I'm going to boo it Mmh hm I'm not saying going to happen because we've seen no sign of it happening with Oafem in that way You can't you can't give you can't you know, make you can't have anybody believe for one yota of a second that you're that he's being shoved down your throat He's got to be the guy that's like busting down walls to get to the ring to get to the match that we all know he deserves. you know, and Well, whatever. I think that But he's not that but here's the thing. like those guys that we've seen down our throats or like pushed super early were't never pushed as like dominant guys. You know what I mean? They're pushed as their their their' internet favorites There guys and Rom Rigns weren't dominant. I mean, there was so that was the whole. Jon it wasn't dominant when he first got on when not when when he first being like in match stight likeike you would get beat down a lot. Yeah. Oa got beat up last night. J Jay Huso came with the fire. U By the way, that was a well constructed match just in the sense that it made me believe the entire way through that they were just Jay was getting in all of his offense because they were pre legitimizing the J who so win that you know, always get to feel uncomfortable But they so they tricked me into believing that that he would actually, you know, throughout the whole match that Ovo was going to lose. U I thought it was really well done. I mean, whatever. This is a silly argument because we're arguing about whether or not the future Hall of Famer should get a world title in, you know, August or Brock Lesnter won the world title in his rookie year, Credango won the world title in his rooookie year U It wasn't his work year, but Hul Hogan's first full year As Hul Hogan in WWE. on the title the first day. Yeah. I mean, that's like, I mean You know, like these things happen And it's okay. and I don't think we've done that with somebody in WWE for quite some time Roman had to wait a long time, even though everybody knew Roman was the guy. And to be honest, I think If When Roman Reigns was red hot after the shield when he was kind of a tweener and he was not Royal Rumble and like going and a. They should have done it then. They could have put the title on him then and I really do believe it would have saved a lot of the bulls that he had to eat when they waited and waited and waited and then people already sick of them. and then he felt like he was being shoved down on our throats Sometimes you got to strike with the iron's hot You know, and I think Roman could have saved maybe three or four years of shitty will, goodwill from the fans. Maybe it would have just listen like listen right after the shield. I mean I think that So Oba Femi is your new king of the ring, which means he gets a wrestle for a world title of his choice Summerers sllam, as you mentioned Eo Sky won the Queen of the Ring Tournament by defeating Liv Morgan and then base who is the, you know, your Smackown women's champion and said and then as soon as it was over, said, no we're running it back. I had assumed they were going to get to rea versus Eosky, they did not or they aren't yet Yeah, maybe maybe you get to to reiaversus you know via a crown jewel type thing. Maybe that's you're saving that for WrestleMania. I mean, there was a lot of stuff at night of Champions. that made me think they were boo already booking for WrestleMania, which makes a lot of sense because this is your last big show before WrestleMania in Saudi Arabia Right? You're you have to prime the crowd. The crowd is clearly much more cut up with current wrestl than they were when they sh started, but you have to prime the crowd for the big events that are going to happen the next time you come through. it's like it's territory wresting. You know, it's like you're you're on the loop right? You got to big show and and Louisville, like, you know, and then one and then the but the next month show. that's the one you really got to show up for. So we'll have, you know, we'll tease that with some like post match shennigans anywhere It felt like that a lot. It felt like there were a lot of things that I could I could see the line straight to WrestleMania and Oba Femi for just to put a bow on the on the Oba Femi part of the conversation straight the line that I was imagining between him and WrestleMania is that WrestleMania would be when he wins the title right? that you give him King of the ring here, but somehow you put it off intoil WrestleMania, which like I said, you don't have to agree. But I think some degree of chase would be good. I don't mean screwing them over. I just mean Dude, He cares about Brock Lesnner right now more than he cares about the world title. Like, he's going go murder that dude. He's got to he's got to end that career And then You know, we'll see what happens after that But I would love to see Roman Reigns versus Obafemi at Summmerlam. But man, I would love to see it so much more at WrestleMania after Roman Reigns avoided Obafemi for six months Like, you know, if there was if If he if they actually build it up It doesn't matter. It was freaking fantastic. Oba Femi. My favorite part of both of both the king and Queen of the Ring winning moments was when Triple H came into the ring, handed both of them the crown and then both of them stood there awkwardly trying to figure out without saying anything if they should be putting on the crown, right? They were like just staring in Triple H's eyes, just like, I How suppos to hold this? How disrespectful is it to hand someone a crown? If you're gonna to bring someone a crown Ohoneed to place Yeah, like are I supposed to place it on their head? No no monarchy in the world would just like that or no no c I know but there's but there's two it's like physics. There's two forces that play here. One is yes, you would crown the king of the ring. The other side is bow down to the game. So you really can't both things can't That's like a terrible like algebra problem. L we got to solve for X with that one. How do we get this crowd on your head without having to bow down the tripleol That would be great. If that wouldd be great if Turplege only made Oba Femi do it too. that would just be the I was that works on a number of levels, but you can take your Next. U the other big match well Did we just reach finish line of champions? I was going to try to pivot to AW What was the big It's AW. Let's just do let's do the banger matches of the weekend. Well Well, if we do banger matches of the week, then we're going to spend the next seven hours talking about talking about those was the actual payerview, but the main event last night was well last for it versus We're of Strickland, winner gets the all in title match Um To many, it was a foregone conclusion that Osprey was going to win him getting his first AW belt you know, in front of his home crowd is just as has seemed too good to pass up both in terms of general wrestling and specifically what Tony Khan seems to like to do Also filling out a gigantic arena, it would be very helpful if you had a storyline like that going into it So as far as foregone conclusions go, nobody went in there thinking they were going dog it or anything I was not again prepared for that level of Well, that level on the mooda scale, but also just that level of excellence. I mean these guys never disappoint and holy hell, they found a way to not disappoint last night. I to I want to let you talk about it. but I will say terms of Big broad headlines headlines, big your think piece for the weekend AW and WWE both put on very old school shows. especially in the big matches, my favorite matches of the weekend, this one Obviously, Omega ZSJ, the cage match from Night of Champions Um And the main event as well just all felt like they could just come right out of nineteen eighty nine. Like it was just very and in a good way very structurally sound. veryy like very like appreciable human crowd response. I mean, the whole thing was just, but anyway As far as Osprey and and Serve go These guys are very capable of putting on a match that feels nothing like nineteen eighty nine. They can put on a match that feels like straight out of the future. And yet last night had a very old school heft to it to me. I don't know. what did you think about that match thoughtought it was a fantastic match, man. And it's It's a match that Even though I fell asleep, waiting for it because I got to get up foright. I can't believe you got up you, I can't believe you l lasted it until it Until then Yeah. I still I still made sure to wake up to catch a swer of Osprea in the morning And you mentioned that sounds like your compet that sounds like the h ninety seven competition. Swar of Oosprea in the morning right here. They do the weather and traffic. So now S Ill I caught Swirv V Osprea in the morning. And u Yeah, you mentioned something about this weekend feeling very old school and I think all that was deliberate. I think everybody kind of knows. that around this time of the year There's a lull in the interest in professional wrestling because of the importance of other sports going on, the World Cup, the NBA finals, you know baseball kicks off like it's it's a lot of distractions around that time. It's at the WrestleMania It's before all in It's sort of like that sort of sweet spot of life. All right. We got your attention this weekend. likeike it wasn't it wasn't shocking to me that there were four different premium live events, payer reviews this weekend. they're all waiting for other shit to be over now they're all waiting out. And if you don't think this stuff doesn't matter it's the folks that help put this stuff together. trust me it does. like It's not that they're trying to go out there and put together lackluster shows for you know, to sort of avoid going up in competition with like the Nicks and the Spurs. They know that like, hey We got we got an open weekend this weekend. You know what I'm saying? So you mentioned that I felt very old school Sort of an aspir should not feel old school. like it's going to be bloody. It's going to be mega athletic There's going to be some super power ups that end up like in in, you know, double downs that get standing ovations like It's things that we've sort of expected to see inven even the false finishes, even the even the finishers spamming false finish it Felt like heavy, felt like felt like I could have imagined you know, whatever, like you know, Dusty Rose and Kevin Sullivan doing that shit in Florida. Like there' just like It just it felt and part of it' that, you know, Both of these guys swerve, obviously, are about fifty pounds heavier than, you know, they were two years ago. There is a real weight to what they do Um, I think it felt like they it felt like they went easy on the real over the top shit. you know, on the like I'm going to kick you in the face five times and that's what's going to energize you to do more or whatever. But like That's there's still a piece of that. likeike we've talked about in previous Ospreay matches. mayaybe it was Ospreay Swerf match, I'm like, No, I feel like I don't I've totally K fab convinced myself that I don't have or not in K fab. I don't have a problem with that sort of like, you know, I hit you with the hidden blade and suddenly you're on the feet, your feet and you have the energy to hit your finisher and then we both die. I don't have a problem with that because I think just like with the boxer, the number one top skill for a professional fighter is to not is to have the toughest draw in the world. Right. If you don't if you don't have the if you don't have a superhan job, then you better you might well not start training. And that is what E inro wrestling. It's like if you can'tick out at two in three quarters, no matter how dead you are, you better why be a wrestler? Like that's something that you' bn with or you're not. you know, and that's so I'm going to overlook it. I'm I'm on a create on an unnecessary changing here because there's so much not's not necessary that match was really But can I just say one really this is maybe the greatest compliment you can give a pro wrestling I have such confidence in these two guys and their career arcs and in their rivalry and in everything else And you and the audience overall has so much confidence in them But the way that the finish didn't didn't raise any eyebow There was no conversation there as there was in many, many other aspects of this weekend, WWE stuff in particular There was no snarky backbchers who were just like, why did you finish Wh was a, you know, swerve lost clean? What are you going to do? likeike what' the point We all know Swerve can lose clean and he's still going to be a number one contender for the world title as soon as he says he wants to be. you know, like it we know that Swerve that AW will treat Serve treat sererve right You know, and we know that What we were watching on Sunday night was not an elevation or a burial in comparison to the other person in the ring It was Swerve doing his job to make Will Osprey's title run I mean, title win mean more than it possibly would have otherwise And so that when he shows up on the next episode of Dynamite, you're like, yeah, well, he kind of owes you one Not in like he'll make the he'll make the K fpe case, but we all know the shoot case is Swerve didn't have to do anything You know, like Swerve didn't have to make him look that good and Swerve didn't have to go out clean It worth could have one hundred percent said let's let's let's fuck this finish up a little bit. So I look good You know And he did the right thing, but you no one complains. And that's because it was an absolutely Beautiful in the midst of an absolutely beautiful career long feud Um, and, you know, I just it was a huge huge huge You know There's always going to be questions about who loses these big matches and where they go from here It was the Owen Heart Cup final. so we could have expected No shenanigans, straight finish, you know what I mean? as the tournament seems to usually do. Um ure But it is going to be extremely interesting to see where Serve goes from here. U There's a long story that's been told with him and Will Ospy, especiallyince Sware was champion you know, for a long time, even when Osprey fully debuted as a member of all elite wrestling. We've all sort of been waiting for like, all right This guy' clearly going to be, you know, the man around here, the top dude And the sort of bookend that they've sort of ended on last night again Great match. He got the blood You got a lot of the uh the u, you know, oping for each other's finishers. There was so much all that type of stuff. so much not do you think these two guys at this point know how to gig themselves. They bleed exactly one gross faceful because it was like they they were both it was both both of them were the scariestade, you know, blade jobs I' ever seen. And then it was just It was gone. like they were back to normal. But there was a moment where Osprey got bloody because right no, no Osprey was first. There was a moment where right when Swerve got bloody if M Mory Serves where there were just puddles of blood in the ring outside the ring where they over boy they were messing with the stairs and everything. There was like literal puddle it was right where I guess we're u Swve was lying when he was like busting open or like whatever, but it was like it was a whole thing. Mhm Was just me or was Nigel? I think Nigel actually was like physically affected by it. I don't know if it's a history of his own blood issues, but he like kind of nked out of the discussion of blood which was kind of interesting anyway mayaybe there might be a running bit that I've just I've not not noticeable But that match was very gory for briefly Gory. It really did, it really was the most family friendly goore I can imagine in a wrestling match because like I said, it was like we both painted our faces red for five minutes and then we moved on But it was very shocking Mm But obviously no complaints about that in terms of whether or not losses affect somebody. and I agree. it was going to be very interesting to watch moving forward, but he's got a freakaking open feelield I why don't just do why don't we just do swarve mocks next You know, like there's so many options that you would just be like, all right, that sounds like a great way to spend the next three months. you know But anyway, speaking about winning and losing and whether or not it affects the loser Probably the most controversial finish less you're anti Muslim bigot of the weekend was Seth Rollins winning over his longstanding rival Braon Breaker inside the steel cage at night of Champions That match was peccable. I mean, I just there the If I like if I were going to go through it, you know,, you know minute by second by second and break it the whole thing down guarantee the only things I would get hung up on is Bon Breaker being being too energetic too antic too like hisis only flaws are his like like nuclear core of energy and it's not a flaw. L it actually makes everything look better. Except when he like misses a Frankensteiner, but like he's When things get a little bit awkward and just in just grabbing an arm, just very basic wrestling stuff Dude with him, it look you can convince yourself it's even cooler I thought this was a really good match. We talked about it last week I thought it would have been wild if Seth Raollin if Ron didn't win since that was the whole point of this whole thing And yet Maybe I'm a homer. As soon as that match was over, I was like, that's That's totally fine Like they did that exactly right because I think as we discussed last week, one Seth Rollins being in in the in pole position for a summer sllam main event is more valuable to them than the me than the immediate future of Ron Breaker And to they pulled it off. you might your mage may vary. You may disagree, but I think Bron Breaker looks totally fine coming out of that match a loser. Yeah. Seth Rollins gets a lot of undeserved slander from people People like, you know, you'll read online. they' be like, oh my gosh What a waste. What was the point if Frmbreakers is not going to win that d d. This is Seth Rollins. There is no shame in losing to a guy who has been as protected, who has been at the top of the main event, who has not as what as many world titles, who is as important to WWE as anybody outside of Roman Reigns or Cody Rhodes and Seth Rollins. You know what I mean? Like So I didn't have a problem We see imp punk. goo ahead. We' see inpunk. So I didn't have a problem or Ous up Rounds wentning But also It bears noting that Bom Breaker is a great wrestler and an important character in WWE I don't think he's going quite ready just yet. Like he's Well there. I don't disagree there, but he's not like If you tell me tomorrow, he's the main event at Sumerslam I'm like hm might be a few more deserving main eventors. probablyrobably I don't think there's I don't think there's as much daylight between him and Oba Femy as you are implying. and I don't think there' much daylight I think there's a whole hallway for the daylight between Oa Femy and Bron Breaker right now. Maybe not last year But even last year, you know, like if you if we if we got you if we cow you to set to set a line on Most likely to main event WrestleMania next year. I don't think there'd be a big gap between Oa Fim and Brun I think they'll be a pretty sizable gap right now. I I think right now. I think right right now they're fucking pushing Obafemi to the moon and deservedly so. I just think well they push Bron Breaker to the moon. I mean, he won everything. He won his C titles. It's not like they didn't do anything with them. No I just say think that put them in the same tier of like the next big the next like immeasurably big say. But it's not a meritocracy. It's not like your turn, my turn. It's Oba Femi is a more interesting character than Brawbreaker Full stop Like Bom Breaker at the top of NXC was very good It was great. Oem me at the top of NXT was something very fucking different. Yeah I will say this for both in terms of both of them and actually across the board I know that there was an example of this rec. I mean, in the past six months or so that I can't bring to mind. Bruce. tellell me if if you think of anything When was the last time that there was an NXT call up? who's who got a reaction from fans that they they look like they weren't ready in their like bell to bell What do you mean that they looked like they weren't ready? Like the way that we've the way that I personally have like freted about Oa Femi and trick and you know, other people and they get called up are just like I just don't know if they can go if they're if, you know, you give them fifteen minutes on a paper vview of if it's going to go And they were a top guy in the NXT or top girl in the nextXT. Yeah. the point I'm trying to make is we come in with all these anxieties. I mean, I think I do, but I think everybody does And Triple H is not has managed to put every new every call up in in the perfect position. consistently for the past two years. Well, that's the thing. A lot of our top NXT coll ups don't get top Don't go straight to the top of the main roster. You know what I mean? Like that there's the there's the NXT call ups And then there's an even smaller room of NXD coll ups that went straight to the top of the car. That's like the shield Uh, uh u Ober E Braon like Braon was was was not really the shot straight to the men event He was more shot to the main event the day after M mania when he joined the vivision. L once he joined the vision, that's something like, okay Mid of a couple like M or less trick Williams and I'm not saying like main event as in like you are the made of it of every show. I mean, you either start the show or you end the show We're either open it up with you or're clos it with you. I think if you open up Monday Night Raw or SmackDown, You're also a main eveter. So likewbreakerers in there. Trick Williams is in there u, the shield was in there, but more or less almost everybody I mean, Kevin Owens Even when Kevin Owens was like shot to the top, John Cina was the United States Champion. That wasn't the main event name is Jon Cena But it was John Cena, right.. Fin I mean, again, red shirt chap R let's mention him and eliminate him You got you got shots at the top, but like think about all the top NXT guys undisputed error never really made it there Um, frickaking you start thinking about who else? I mean, your ricochets out very very listen this is room.'s No, it's totally right. So the point I was just trying to make is congratulations to WWE because I don't recall a moment over the past year where I was just like Whf they just threw him into the deep water and that wasn't a good idea. you know, like they seem to manage it one way or the other in ways that I don't claim to understand really, really well. Speaking of NXT call ups. We're not going to probably spend much of any time on the G American Bash during this show because there's too much other stuff going on, but congratulations on your loss and welcome to the big Lagues, presumably, Tatum Paxley and Lolaiss My guess is that Lola Vice because of widespread relationship rumors will be on the Sackdown brand U Taton Paxley, who I, you know, unnecessarily went to bat for on the last episode. She's fucking awesome.. I don't know if that you just mean that automatically means she's going to be on raw, but I would expect her to go there. But as soon as I as soon as she lost last night, you know what the two things I thought of were One, number one. Is Hayden going to join the Judgment Day? And is that interesting? And now I'm like going through all these like things in my head because she like She's more like old school judgment day, but also has the personality of like, you know, the our truth kind of thing that can like carry old storyline anyway. But as I'm thinking that, then of course I'm like Wait, what happens when Tatum Paxley meets Danausen Do they Are they Spatico in some way You know, is there some or is she just like any other wrestler b? Anyway, so I'm very excited to see Tata pack again Anyway I don't think they get called up I think I think Kataax is one hundred percent getting called. I mean, she might she might do the thing where they've that they did with OBa and various others where it's like back and forth. Yeah, you's like you're officially called up. But if we don't if we can't think of anything for you, then we're going to put you in our next big paperview here just because why why would we waste you You know Um, So anyway, listen That was that Oh wait, do should we talk about the worldld title match? Bruce, do you want to get get a microphone and talk about your favorite wrestl or evil at all or do are you good? Un unfortunately was not able to. It was a very good match. My favorite part of what's wait, I'm never going to belie No, of I know his name no, no, no Naraku And by the way, it's not Tony D. is a f his his is given his his Christian name is Bruiser Boy RD moving forward That crazy hair. By the way, the crazy hair which has which feels nothing like Tony DiAangelo of the old school thing is such a good look because it's not like anybody else. There's nobody else that looks like that No know, I mean, like in the current product, there's like nobody else that looks like that, dude U and the fucking bloody bandage over his eye. I don't know how they figured out to have the first cool bloody eye bandage in pro wrestling history, but he looked like a straight up Evening Bers Rorse. Buy a new car I'll be bo Let's get started. Sorry, I think there's been a mistake. I bought it from Carvana. You what? Yeah, great price. I even' have seven days to love it or return it. So there's no No, no buyer's remorse. More like buuyers' rejoice? 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I'm not sure about the wrestling character. like just in general, if you're willing to burn down a house, I don't know how much you should care about, you know, dressing like your favorite combo character, but Lobo' the best and especially this weekend when they're like trying to I'm sure promote all cross promote all this Warner Brothers shit Um, The bain thing I could have done without Do You think Darkness is your ally I tweeted I tweeted that no, that was not a reference to the Dark Knight Rises. That was a reference to Jeep Swensson from Batman and Robin, who is an actual professional wrestler. But I would not I don't need for a baby face to do that, it just feels a little bit hard D know Like you can talk the villainy I can understand. I know there's all this stuff.' a baby face here. Osprey? Yeah. I mean by the fault, they both kind of Do you think do you think J you think the D deathriters, John Mosy and the deeath Riders in their months of help and training him for this match would have approved of him Hving like a dry ice mask to look like to look edgy Like justust fucking go punch the dude in the face. That's that's how I'm saying gues U Wait was there Okaykay, we just did the cage match. That was our last official match that we covered Let's pick one from Forbidden Door. We just had Bruce on the mic. I know Bruce you were very excited about the opener which was not we didn't know was going to be the opener The young Bucks versus unboundco versus L Sky team. By the way I know this is very old manan yells at clouds or old manan yells at, you know people in his neighborhood for very sketchy reasons of me Why are we obligated to say L's skky team? I know we're dealing with Turkey A and all the new revelations of her vocabulary from the World Cup, but like Sky Tam is an English name. Everybody translates to L, even if it's a Spanish thing if you were like likeike El Matador where you'd be like, hey that's the Mador. you know, like it's not like some point of like cultural like you know discomfort. Can we not just say the skky team? L Lll skky teeam is like the most awkward thing of anyway, goo ahead. They were they look very very good We speak English here. learearn it. I was not prepared I was not prepared for Lky team in the sense that I wasn't prepared to watch like the meega powers collide and me spend the whole match realizing that Machoen is this good or better than Hulk Hogan You know, it's like it's a what it's like what a tag team and I'm watching like the torch be passed right before my eyes and I have a lot of very strong feelings about it. So anyway Buce, go ahead Yeah, I mean, I had a blast. yet again, Titon going crazy fine. He took the pin, which as I expected, it was going be mascarre at Narater or him. Young Bucks as always directing traffic. you put anyone in their match. L I remember when the young Bucks and all of the elite were before they they created AW and they were on the Indies and they had a whole thing where they would be having matches with literally anyone on the Indies. But they could plug, even if you were a super serious wrestler, they could plug you into their formula and make that match work you were. And yet again, just another example. takaking guys because you got all the flippy guys, then you got Shinka who's like, al right, I'm going to punch you You can just make it all seamlessly fit in together, three people, people that probably haven't worked much together and just make it expertly could go off like that. So I had a blast personally, thought it got off the show to a wonderful thing. I have some notes about Teton too. It's like, no this is just I guess it's a Spanish word. so okay, we'll take it Um, Uh yeah, it was that match was just just a So much fun There was there was a pump M they were doing like some big giant, you know, big move sequence and both it was both the bucks and Singo were in there And I think Nick got elimated first and Matt. ended up running past Singo jumping over the top rope, but the whole point is there was a moment of hesitation where like it didn't go exactly on beat. and Matt had to sort of stop reset, wait for Shingo to turn so that he could run past him and he like grabbed him and he said something to him And I was like Dude the bugs are just running this match and there's and there's like three languages involved. I I know that this is I know that we always have these how do they do it conversations Like when things aren't going perfectly, that's when you're just like, oh, wow, man, they're just working on another level Um That was very good. The cage match, which I was which the whole time I watched, I thought it was the main event I was like talking to myself like It' kind of smart to book this is your main event when you're like on a competitive weekend going up against all these other shows And then of course there was the main event But I thought the cage match was really good and interesting. I I'm saying the cage match. It has a name David And I say to myself H name is Dath door. What do you think Kaz about the new circular cage match in AW having a name and that name being death store Looks good That's was good. Like I'm I'm a big fan of cages and the circular design U It's different and it looks really awesome. Okay, this is my only note. hereere's my only note One That's forbidden door I guess so we're all about the metaphorical doors. I know that Death's Door is a metaphor. or a figure of speech, however you want to say, at a turn of phrase But but still when you're looking at a physical thing that has a door, I kept focusing on the door. Like if it's called Death's Door, does the door do something? Like is the door going to catch on fire less of a big thing. more of a big thing is to me If you're just going to call it Death Store, which is obviously evocative of Hellen Isceell and in a loose way, right? I mean, everything in wrestling is about death in some loose way, but like Can we just not call it the circle of Hell? Wouldn't the circle of Hell been way better than Death's Door Like let's go on It' both pretty. I mean It's a circle It's a circle and it and it reminds you of Hll and Sll. It's a fucking circle of hell You can call like the circle of hell, like whatever, just make it make it a thing, you know, anyway I enjoy it but this but the shape of the cage It was one of those things where as soon as it was lowered, actuallyually as soon as I saw it on Twitter that someone posted a picture, I was like This has been around my whole life, right? Did I think of this idea? Like what like I know that we've had conversations about aroundound cage and I just don't know if it's true. It was just that that kind of perfect Um What do you think? we were talking before we turn the mics on about whether or not in in a vacuum that opener that open or triple threat should would have should have replaced the AW tag title match between Copeland cage and the dogs. I mean, it was a better match. It was a more fun match and would have actually fit in the show better there. But here's the thing. the return of the switch blade. And even better than that, the completely unnecessary appearance of the rest of the crew, the rest of the bang bang gang in that amazing cinematic three hundred and sixty entrance. that just had nothing to do with the return of Switch Blade Jay White, which happened behind them It's you know, in the ring veryy happy to see Jay White back I don't know what the pro wrestling equivalent I trust that Tony Khon has done this research I don't know what the proressing equivalent of like the giant ankle guards that Steph Curry wears is and you know, Mello Ball and assorted others But we got to figure out what that is and give it to Jay White because J like I don't care if J White. gets hamstrg by, you know, lack of mobility because he has to wear too much shit. Let's just keep this guy healthy You know, let's figure out a way to he's like he's just so priceless. U And I mean, just look at that. listen, we all love the bang bang gang But the difference between the J white Bang bang gang and just the non J white Bang Bang gang is like, Like the freaking NWO without the big three. you know, it's just like what are like what are we doing here we we take there's we don't take you seriously at all. And then as soon as the big guy walks in, you're just like, this is the new four horseman. This is the new bullet club. This is, you know, it's it's so crazy. So So welcome back Welcome back Everybody looked great this week this weekend. Let's go back. Let's pick another King of the ring match. What do you have to say about u Was there anything else to say about EO and Liv? I sort of ran through the storyline right now. I mean they're obviously head toward the summer l first. So you know W that too much? I could have done without that becausecause by the way, she's getting too powerful Well, one, she didn't really lose in any kind of cursy way. likeike it would have been one thing if like a freaking vase fell out of the ceiling and Fed and hit her on the head. likeike that would have been cursed But she just lost the match clean to a better wrestler. Like what's the curse? O is the implication that Liv Morgan is better than EOky and would not have lost that match otherwise? because I don't even think pro wrestling Cannon tells you that Well, it does. L Morgan is two and zo in singles matches against Eo Sky. No, I know, but like no one would have been shock. Okay, you're right. goodood point. sorry No one should would have shut I know that because they beat they beat you over the head with the stats before the match let you know. Okaykay. she's probably going to lose this one U No,'s you're right. It's that's totally right. But but I think that's exactly the point. It's Like no one Jo to shop with that ending. it didn't need the curse. I'm glad that Saudi Arabia got their Dan Hausen moment. And I know that they're going to go further with this. Live Morgan You know loses it because of the Ch's like, I'm not car start doing all the crazy stuff. like I get it. Maybe this will be the end of the Judgment dayay or the end of her time in the judgment Day. Maybe it'll be something bigger. Maybe this is just your Sar same storyline Ab Maybe this is your way to get Danhusen involved inumbererslam. I don't I'd be shocked if he didn't have a match saying is how he's been wrestling with the The zombie crew of late. But anyway But that match was very, very, very good. H I could imagine a better match between them two So I think Smerlam is right there there's a there's five stars out there just waiting to be grabbed, ladies Let's just let's let's go do it because that that has a lot of potential. I mean, liiv is Obviously, we've talked about it before. I talked about it to her face that there was just like some moment where she suddenly became a good wrestler Um, after like, years of just like, earnestly and seriously trying to be a goodrestler Um And there's a yeah, that could be huge Anyway Um, what do you what do you care about most next? Trick, Ohh trick Y good friend Trick Williams who got married this weekend I was the coolld open question of the week, by the way was going to be which wedding would you have rather been at Tricks or Darby's? But I feel like I know the answer. But for the record, which would you rather be at Oh, probably tricks because Jamaica's way better than Seattle Um M I saw they were like doing body slams at Darby's wedding and chair shots. I his dad got chopped by Brody King. Some chops, you know what I mean? Like look Honestly incredible defefinitely not a wedding I've ever been to, but Yeah, you kidding me? like trick and Lash's wedding in Jamaica and Castle, you know I'm saying? Like that looks like That looks like a place where, you know, if you were single, you know what I mean That's a wayed you go to a meet, you know I'm saying the restrestl of your dreams. Yeah. I don't know if that that that, you know Seeing old people getting chopped and hit with chairs at a wedding doesn't really Bring it out of them. You're right. probablyrob No That's not. I'm going to tell you as much as I love wrestling And as much as I love jackass. That's not my style of fun. I don't need to sit around wondering if someone's going to come up with a cookie sheet and smack me in the face while I'm working like I I don't need to spend my life that way. I'll have a heart attack by the age of well, I would have had one U So I'm with you on that one, but You know, I think I'm going to say yes to any wedding any wrestling wedding invitation, regardless Cool. I don't really know how to how to de with it. I mean, I don't how do you say no to that So but trrick defended against Ricky Saintson what I thought was a very good match. I mean, kind of smack down Maina Vinci, but that's exactly what you, you know, when you put on this kind of match and this point in the card That's kind of what you get. I just thought I thought they have a whole lot of chemistry and they had me, you know, I spent portion of that match thinking Rickie might win. So I think that's a win Tiffany Stratton retained also against Jade Cargill of course, with the help of Uh the baby face super friendriends, likeike what are we? I don't what's this crew called now? Tiffany Stratton was aided by notot just Chelsea Green, who's been trying to get on a good side of late, but Charlotte Flair, who I guess is fighting. Jade at Summer sllam Um, which will be a lot of fun Uh oververall, I thought that I I mean, I really thought it's hard to think of Night of Champions without thinking of Samy Zanne Oafemy had what might be the, you know, a Carion call moment for him. just like an absolute just a point in time that we'll always remember because of what happened at Sumerslland because of what it led to U E Skyl look great South Rollins finally put to rest is fewed withith the vision that's copyright Michael Cole Oh. Where the fuck is Paul Hayman? I know they' they've said this on microphone. Why was Yeah, Sirit by Bron Breaker and it has a beens He was feared by Brawn Breakers so he wasn't seen Uh the rest of the dudes, o Logan Paul couldn't make the trip. They said because of his arm. there could be other reasons for that. You never know what Logan But I love that it was one on one U But that anyway, that I don't know. it was just a fantastic freaking joe. and Sammy Zane won the world title in Saudi Arabia I mean, it's almost like Trojan horsey, all the shit they've tried. It's like they they had who was the who was this the the Wrestler that Muort, wasas it mano was the wrestler that only existed in Saudi, Was it Mansur And he's changed. Um It's hard to believe that like we started there. And I'm sure Vince McMahan didn't even notice that like Sammy Zayain was Muslim or anything else. You know, he was just like, that's impossible White skin I don't understand. Also, Samy name I mean, also Vincman was still around. by the way, all the people that were shoing on Triple H is booking last week, just know events were still around, Sammy Zayn would one hundred percent come out tomorrow night and'd make some like pro Iran comments in the ring just to go over as a heel Um toooo many people were cheering for Can you get a Hamas t shirt by tomorrow night A But So so anyway, I mean it's just sameyZin one. Samy Zan w, what a crazy fucking night. Samy'Z one And like you said, there's a chance that he's going to be champion until WrestleMania I think there's a pretty fair odds like he's going to be in the main event picture at WrestleMania A kind of inevitable, right And we still have all these questions. What is Oa going to who's Oba going to pick What'srock Lesnner's? status And Saby Zne may lose the title starting. U as I look at the clock starting eight hours from now But I'm not mad about it. I might be mad when he loses, but I'm very excited about just the The The uncertainty of it all, the summer of trying and shit. You've been saying it for years caz, hereere we go This is the question. I'm not talking about length of rain talalking about whatever But here's my question for you Who is going to take the title off of Sammy Zayan whenever it occurs A lot of people are saying You know, Brock Lzer could come out tonight or at MSG and take that title right off of them in a big show and have a Rock versa for the titles Mash at Summer sllam doesnn't need the title t really matter I'm Kevin Owens is someomewhere on the road to recovery. Some people seem to think he's very close to coming back. He tweeted very lovingly about this, but There is nothing that would be more appropriate than Kevin Owens coming out tomorrow night or Friday night and huggingamy Zane and celebrating with him and then power byy power byying him off the edge of the ring I mean, there's By the way, that's that I mean, that would be a worldld title match for Summers Slam, right? That's all you need to do one threat thing and it's done So so who's going to beat Sammy? Kevin Owens Rck Lesnar Cody Rhodes Um Oba Fimi at the title versus title match at WrestleMania, Saudi Arabia next year. likeike what what is your what what is your vision? I don't know. I mean, that's what makes this whole thing really interesting. Yeah like Samy Zin is a guy who isn't like a overly dominating competitor, but Oh o I left out Chad Gable who we had a backstage interaction with last night and now they both have, you know, obviously have very strong Lua Lib connections too. so Yeah, But so anyway, you're right. It could be any time, right? It's just about It's the moment I don't know. Yeah, I mean, it really could be anybody. That's what makes it really interesting. Obviously, Cody's got a bone to pick with them and if he gets the title back, I think one could assume It may not be in the cleanest way. Gunther's going to have something to say because he wasn't pinned Um, But I just get the feeling that there's too many people just. I mean, obviously the Brock thing is holding, you know, is u is hovering over body This is kind of why its it's really fun when a guy like Samy Z is world champion because Now everyone's a contender Now anybody's a real possibility has a real possibility of taking a title off of him. I could see where with trick Williams beat him for the world Championship. It He's got to win over. You know what I mean? Like he's got to win over them You got it He kind of got brought into WWE, you know, with the Samy feud Like I could I can see that You know You know, it would be really awesome actually if someone like Samy Zaye did their own open challenge, but it was just like a, you know twenty eight under open challenge Oh know orr just like like a new to the main roster open challenge. likeike like whatever whoever you want to come. I'm just on where the crowd is and actually that'd be a great way to get heel heat too. The crowd is tired of Brock Lesnar. The crowd is tired of John Cena. the crowd is tired of Randy Orton Let's just bring some new blood in here. And it's in Sammy's mind,'s these are people I can beat, but what you really get is just a string of insane matches. that like put a lot of people over is potential main event. Yeah, but I don't think he's going to do all that. I mean, I think shit Johnny Gargano could be a guy who beats him for a world title. You know, like there's What makes the same interesting, you know what makes the same stuff really interesting is that He has he is sort of disconnected tissue to the entire roster. He's not a guy who just sort of floats at the top of the roster where it's like All right, Roman's not going to interact with such and such or SM punkss not going to interact with such and such or Set I's not going to interact with such and such Samy's being the worldld champion like literally it's almost like a It's almost like an option football play where now you got the ball to this guy who could run it or throw it. Yeah, instead of a guy who could just throw it You know And he can go out there and have a match with Chad Gable where you legitimately think Chad Gable is going to become a WW Champion and I believe it You go out there and you got have a match with Cody Rhodes where Cody Rhodes could sort of fight a little bit heelish and fight like a guy who you know, once his title back Well That's the thing of C if it's just Cody and Sammy despite Sammy, by the way. was the biggest pop of the night prior to Sammy winning Sammy grabbing Cody's hand. They're keeping Cody's hand from tapping out I mean, that was up there. I mean, they like that like the way that Samy is a coming out of nowhere where all you can see is his hand. Obviously the crowd has a very different angle, but still it's a it's an out of nowhere moment. The reaction that that got was just unbelievable. Anyway, everything that Sammy does is unbelievable Yeah. I mean, u Itss it's going to be interesting, man. I But I just get this I just can't shake the feeling that the thought that He's going to be this transitional champion is going to get flipped on his ear. I think there's too many people that are saying the quiet part out loud that are assuming guys like Brock Lesard is going to come or Oba Femy is going to come and You know, he's only going to hold the title for a month and Samy is a smart guy. The big part about his his gimmick and his deal that he's smarter than everybody. I don't think he's going to walk himself into a situation where he could clearly lose the title very, very fast. I think He's going to he's going to nip and tuck and find his way So hold on to that title until WrestleMania in Saudi Arabia where a place think he's going to hold the title for the whole year I think so. and it's not a whole year. It's only a couple months. Well sorry. S in what? April? You know what I mean? probably That's like nine months. That's a long way. nine months. I think he could do it I think he can do it. when he's been I don't think I would love for I would love for him to do it. But he's been trusted with long term storylines for like longer than like three or four months. He's always deliate. You know what I mean? And I don't think You know, whether it's a bloodline, whether it's the stuff of Gable, with the stuff of Gunther, was the stuff with Jay B is stuff with anybody I think, you know, you still got Kevin Owens on the horizon. who may be on his side, who may not be on his side There's going to be ways that you could keep the title on him longer than people expected Like I don't think folks want to see him. I wonder I think it's a JC Jane situation where people are going to look at him as a transitional champion. you're going to look up and like, yo, this person hass been championed for a year. How that happen? I hope so I I think I feel like he's It's like, it's like a funhouse mirror version of in case of emergency brerake glass in the sense that like, for Sammy, it's If there's ever a moment that feels like it needs a little bit more juice, it's got to be like, well, let's just have somebody shockingly beat Sammy You know, instead of in the past it would be. let's have Sammy shockingly beat somebody. but now in addition to that in addition to that. What makes it interesting is the fact that the other worldld champion is Roman And there's a whole story to be told there That has' been told Well, I think it's to me is the is the is the best story they've told In the history of Tple H's U Rign as head of Creative, which is the Bloodline storyline with Sammy Zain and Now you get another chapter. now you get something where, you know, whether they have a champion versse champion match where they just interact with each other where We're just at a point where Samy can look head up with Roman Reigns and not feel like he has to put his head down acknowledge this tribal chief, likeike you're WWE champion that That's something that a lot of people in his family hasn't done And Roman is Roman going to respect Samy for it. Like that's a whole not thing Like just their just their interactions alone might be too good for it to last only a month You know what I'm saying? So I think you you put it in the air. You always had that sort of level of uncertainty that this title could be changed at any hand becausecause it's Ayine I think every week and every month you just find a way where he just squeaks out a wind and he just gets out of there And it' like who No, I listen. I would I would love it. I would love it Um There's so much there's just so many opportunities now. It's really great. There was also that match alsoso featured Cody Rhodes and Gunther. We haven't even mentioned his name yet. He had a post match dusted up with Nick Ois You think there's more there Oh yeah, Nico just hit them first which is telling he swung first. so Nigoldas who Nigalas who in real life. little peek behind the curtain here has been dying to just get in the ring since he got to WWE and as time goes by, I think he's very proud of his work, but like I don't know I think everybody's seen that dude walk out of the hotel gym at some point. There's not a lot of You can't see a lot of reasons why he shouldn't be working Yeah I don't know. what do you think? Is Gunther all this Gunther, allld this is one hundred percent what WWE is going to run at some pop up show the same day is all in. You know, it was like we're going to steal some of this UK crowd by just running Gunther versus Ald this a free show in London just to mess with them or whatever. Oh, we haven't talked about my world Uh, Kaz is Dear friend and my favorite wrestler in My world had a good showing against Mercedes Monet lost in a valant valiant loss. I can't imagine. Now part of this is My world is a relatively novice wrestler Although incredibly incredibly incredibly gifted U But she had a much better showing against Mercedes than I was expecting her to. notot in terms of winning or losing, just in terms of like every exchange seemed like a ma world Like My world got in more offense than Jay Uso did this weekend. Um And part of that might be that it's just like Mercedes wants to put my over or part of it might be like, my only works one way. likeike I don't know. you know? And I mean, not like she doesn't know how to sell. I'm just saying like her matches have a vibe to them that like I'm not accustomed to. Um But man, she look good I was so scared for her going into this, not because I I mean, just because It seemed like a little bit of a I mean, it was it was a sort of like they called this they just they picked called this match on the fly not in the ring. like they they changeed the plans to get to this match and there was a lot riding on her all of the sudden. and Man, she came through It was really, really good. I was a little bit uncomfortable with the degree to which they mentioned her Brother byy like the fifteenth dimension, I was like, I think we got it, dudes. And like also let's just concentrate on how good of a wrestler she is Um, but crazy good spot for her and I mean, I don't know what else. And I liked that we got to see Athena after that. I would love to see some more Athena Mya world Um I'm with this like new layer added onto it Tiia, Sena And again, I don't know what the Athena situation is. I don't know why she is permanently sequestered a ring of honor. I don't why Billy Starks is there under her, you know, as well But regardless, As good as the AW Women's division is, I am fucking thirsty for Mercedes plus that Ring of Honor Women's Division Like I like I have much more interest in My world Starks and Athena circling around Mercedes and anybody else Um But Mercedes once again proved for her part that she was she's the best of the best. My favorite, I'm sorry. My real favorite thing from Forbidden Door It was the repeated, repeated repeated attempts by Tony Shiivani to say the least sexist thing in the world only for it to sound much more sexist than he intended it to. He was like repeatedly tryed to put Mercedes over and he was like, guys, I just don't know when I've seen a lady wrestler as good as the like he didn't say lady ever. Hes a women's wrestler But he kept on trying to put her over but would just throw women's in there and it would sound like he was cutting the compliment in half and every time every time Excalibur would be like, or any match Tony or or any wrestler, Tony, like trying not just trying to save him, you know, like not trying to correct them. It happened over and over again And it was like every time it was like Tony was like, now I'm going to give her a real compliment. Like I can see that I fucked up last time. And he would come back in and just be like That woman does not deserve to be in the kitchen. She deserves to be a champion, you know, and it was just nuts, like every time. But anyway Congratulations to u Do you want to talk a little about the announceced team, Bruce? You were the before I even started watching last night, you were on here stoked that Walker Stewart was behind the mic. Yeah. I just mean he brought a great flare and as soon as I realized he was going to be on for the rest of the show. I was like, all right, this is be fun. I thought they did a good job He and ro back and Excalber a matching set. They definitely come from the same action figure set of announcers. and There were times where I didn't super gel because I think they were both the well, they're both they're both very I mean, obviously Walker was taking a back seat last night, but they're both They're both space fillers. They're both innings eaters, you know, and like they're and There are times where they both just wanted to explain everything that was happening, you know, at the same time A But man it was. he was a he was he was a great addition of the show And I', you know, big call Great call. I mean, listen, the forbidden dooriness of the whole thing is just, as we've discussed, a little bit of a question mark. They really need to just do Crown jewel, the whatever the old Kight of Champions thing Tony Kon needs to just have a deal where once a year AW champ, the CML champ and the new Japan champ are all in the ring for a triple threat and that's forbiddenor. and There's no belts on the line or something. justust do something to make it feel like this This event has a reason has a purpose Like you like just just do it And I always thought you'd do like a like a Survivor sereries type tag or something like that. giveive you like your five best New Japan, your five best AW you do some kind of like brand type of supremacy stuff like the N new Japan New Japan is to, I mean New Japan, obviously with the exception of Mystico much bigger stars, I think in the US than CMLL, but like It also feels like it's been done a million times Um Oh, we didn't talk about showed up, by the way Talk about old school fucking Did we brought him up Okay, well, I mentioned him, but talk about old school wrestling, dude That that pack no match was just maybe the most painful looking thing I've ever seen I'm glad I'm excited that Pack went into the like went to the wrestling tailor and he was like, this new outfit you gave me isn't kind of awkward and weird enough. Can you make it look more like I'm a power lifter from eighteen forty five And it and it really he's just he I just love watching him go. I wonder what the world how much different Japan would be if Um Package just spent the past fifteen years making like being like the gatekeeper in New Japan becausecause he is like, there's no one better than him at that job you know, he can because they they were they were narrating in the match. He's fuckking can do everything and he's strong enough to make everybody look good. when he taught like pick somebody up and toss them, you know, like do it in a safe way. like you know that he's not going to do something his body can't handle That match was so good Tack a good Starlight kid got crazy over to this American audience. I'll put myself in it that is not as familiar with her work as we should be U For those of us who just said, why is there like a you know, team of Tiger Mask out here running around or like what's, you know, like, what am I looking at right now? It's shes What has she been wrestling like? She's like twenty four and has been wrestling for twenty one years or something. Like her the amount of time of her life that she's been a wrestler is shocking Uh But yeah, I mean, but anyway, I really, really, really enjoyed Forbidden Door. It was a nice comfortable match for most of it. Oh, we didn't the cage match, the stupid ath door, not stup. Do you think at some point, we'll get up to different different weird stipulation multian match for every AW payerview. I'm not saying this sarcastically or meanly kind of feel like we're going to have a death store or an anarchy in the arena or whatever for every single show. There'll just be a different one every time. Doesn't that seem like what we're doing here I mean they that's that is what they do. Okay. N match Anytime there's like multip multiple people, it's an excuse to put your big stars all in one place without like if you don't have the storyline going What do you think about with the spillout of this match? What do you think about Andrawe leaving the Don Callus family turning on inJF? And and finally kicking that feud off. Well, it was definitely something we saw coming. I mean, Andr is over. We've seen things coming we've seen things coming in eight We've se been the Don Callus family for much longer than this. I mean, this is this is basically like a split second stel turn in AW in you know, in AW terms gu we did we did see it coming And it was worth I'm very interested to see if And Driday is this guy. Do you think Andrade is this guy I don't know. I mean, we got to wait to see now I mean I don't think he's going to be world Champion, but You think he's big enough? Do you think he you think he's going to get a huge like babyface reaction that bounces out MJF's heel response I mean, I think he was already getting it. you know, I think the spots with him in the crowd with the girls was already over. He's awesome in the ring and then AW especially since he's gotten there gotten back on that second time around ' rarely been booed and you put anybody across. that how you know oververrase. I don't know Yeah. I mean, you put anybody across MJF, you're going to get heat. likeike that's what he does 's very hard to get chered. But he's also a very, but he's also a heel and that like He's a classical heel The going into the crowd stuff, that's a heel move, you know, like the the but got taken off the move and like the old no s No, you're right, but I'm saying but he's does the stuff a classical heel would dude he comes out in fancy suits and sunglasses, you know, like even the elaborate entrance with the with the mask and everything else. This is heel stuff, which is fine in the modern era that doesn't make him a heel. I'm not trying to say that What I'm saying is How What is it going What is a fancy suit going to look like standing across from MJF in a fancy suit? Like should you be able to point at one of them say I can when I walk when I turn on the TV, I knew who the bad guy and the good guy were Like I don't know. like maybe needs a baby face set up a little bit to to playoff of MJF's like very cliche heel stick And maybe not I'm excited about it. don't, I agree with you. I don't know the answer about on Driday. I don't know if he's ready for this for this spot or, you know, not ready like he's young and up and coming, but like I don't know But man, I sure I've argued that he was for a long time and it'll be very fun to see. Um what does we forget, Bruce? what was the Kenny Kenny and Zack I said it up front. That might have been the best match of the weekend And it's like the tenth most important match of us talking for us to talk about everything I thought it was. Kenny looks very good physically and likeike he like he looked good aesthetically and he looked good, you know, as he moved Um I went to go see Everybody knows this, but I went to go see Jerry the King Lawler in his first match post heart attack. outside of Memphis. And he had a match against Jaret and There might have been it might have been an intergender tag with their with their wives involved. I don't remember exactly. But Jerry the King Lwler clearly could only punch at this point. I don't think he could even backbump, which was his other move after the heart attack and he only could punch and it was a fantastic match I think I say all of this to say There will be a point in the future when Kenny Omega only thrs knees. There's nothing else this guy can do except knee people and it will still be a five star match He's getting older. his moveveset is declining in a weird way and he's so much more old Kenny. It's like old manan Logan. The older he gets, the more I care about him and the more I like watching him and This was the first time that I remember Zach Saber junior in a a W match even in a big Like I've seen them him in PWG. I'm trying. this is the obviously the cruiser weight class like. This is the first time where I felt like Zack Saber Jr. lived up to the hype And I say this is Zack Saber Jr. fan who knows what he does when the hype's not on that he is that good You know, like he's he's that good, but like We not lived to the hpe, right? That's wrong way to put it where the match really played to his strengths and he looks like really legit. Obviously, he has a new Japan title run under his belt since the last time we saw him over here and he's had to do a lot of like streamlining for the main event. Dude, that match was sick I loved it I love that was it was such a good match. Dould you like that one is was that? Was that a casmatch or no They're all cas matches. It was a good match. Well, you know, bigig Medi Men's bumping meat is the most cas match I would say so That was definitely a good match for sure , definitely Mxley over Bandido, I really enjoyed that. I mean, everything was good. Everything we didn't talk about was good too. I don't even know what to say. I don't even know what to say. what's the biggest moment The biggest moment of the weekend was Samy Zany's your new WW champion The biggest question after his after his win is look at all these which question should we answer first? I guess is the biggest question afterwards, but between Who iss he gonna feud with U is he got to get squash? Is he going to be a transitional champion? Like literally what the hell is he going to say the next time he gets on a microphone Is he a baby face or a heel Is he going to be on Rw on Smackown? I mean I mean, like is he is it a 's obviously on Smacked But it seems to me that a moment that big deserves to be addressed on Monday night U There's a lot of questions. It's only questions, and that's what makes Sammy's hand so exciting and that's what makes WWEs I mean, and that's what makes, you know, the moments like that like so exciting Um Hold on me me let me do the Brian Curtis style notebookum. Bruce. Let me know if there's anything they've announced for R us U They only have two things annnce for Rossa Far's that Roman's going to be there. and I believe that Chad Gable versus Jie McDon Um Wow There's not room enough for both of our heads in this town U that's the storyline there. All right, dumping the notebook here You know, what's really interesting about the Samyan thing is like in the and this is goes to what I was saying before about We've seen a lot of teases in AAW that, you know, they don't pal right away. It's WWE too. I'm not putting that on AW The fact that they pulled the trigger on the Sammy turn and what what felt like it was like just the very beginning stages of whatever character arc he's on now wild. Um Either they know they know exactly what they're doing or they're really playing or this is a really try the summer of trying shit. Um Let's see Oh Uh, in the the the what's it called? Deil's Door? Dvil's Door Fifth circle of Hell whatever it is There was a moment where your guy Darby had a skateboard K. I just want to make the case that this skateboard is actually the best weapon There are a lot of cool weapons. There was the Nintendo The're original in NES There was the blowing on the cartridge, which got the maybe the biggest pop of the whole match. I thought that was really cool A lot of interesting weapons in this in this thing. But a skateboard is the best weapon Is there anything that you would less like to get hit in the face with than a skateboard I couldn't imagine Have you seen that video? It's like there's like a meme video of like a crazy dude with a knife on the subway platform going up to a guy with a skateboard and the skateboard guys are like, please back off. backack the fuck off. backack the fuck off. And then finally, he just When the guy makes a move on him, he just very calmly pokes the guy in the face with two hands on the skateboard and the guy die. you know, it's just like the me it's the most painful thing you can imagine. There should be more skateboard wrestling. Is Bandido the best baby face worker in the world Bill like a ring style baby face I don't know. I don't know He's so good and and he never does anything. It's all one hundred percent baby face bullshit in the ring. And the crowd is always behind. Maybe if we saw him every week, we do see him a lot now But maybe if he was more of a fixture in our lives I would be I would be over this by now, but jeez, it was great U I feel like you always have to give the benefit of the doubt to a loo shore that covers their mouth because if they can get over like a baby face without any facial expressions, it's like, man, it really better be doing something special Spider man. It's It was Spider. Yeah, it was Spider Man where the original Tob Maguire, Spidererman where he fought the whm the folk green goblin and like they're both in masks the whole time and it's like a Greek tragedy. They're like like there's literal Greek theater masks where you can't see facial features and they're just gesticulating their arms wildly And then Spiderm Man too, they're like, oh, let's fix that. And they just have Dct. Octopus is the villain. and Spidererman's mask is three quarters torn off for the whole thing. So it's like this is It's much easier this way. But they there there was a torn mask and Bandid. I mean, Bandido's mask was about torn torn off last night and he looked very attractive Um, according to the internet. Uh, anythingthing else Not a lot of slam anniversary notes here, but But Rich Swan looks exactly like Titus O'Nill now that he has a shaved head, justust half of Titus O'Nill. like he' he's just many U Uha Nation, Uha Nation Our guy is in TNA. Are we excited Kaz I'm excited This could be He might be the number one, what if WWE just what if we just deleted that from his life wrestler He could be he might be like the most influential American wrestler of all time if he had just stayed on the Indies and followed his followed his heart out direction. anyyway They had an under the ring camera on NXT Great American Bash. D you see this? That that my friends is innovation. Sean Michaels, whoever's doing whoever's coming up with this stuff After after all of these years to finally have a camera, a camera under the ring to show the drama going on there. just Chef's kiss kind of stuff Zaria is a builder wrestler just for the record. I don't know if I need to say anything else, but if you were making a female wrestler, everybody listening to this would have made Zara Just give her like the scarary as Th three moves is like her three moves and just look at the way she looks Um, And oh last note Oh, two last notes. One I know everybody made this joke online, but it does bear mention Women should not be doing run inss in Saudi Arabia in bodody suuits. It just begs too many questions Like why did so many people spend so much money on bodysuits when they're not scheduled to wrestle in Isn't that just weird that you'd be like, I'm going to wear buy a bodysuit just so I can go beat somebody up after a match. L little bit odd for me, maybe not. Anyway, last note At one point, Osprey U did the styles clash on your good friend Sb Strickland And the table, the announced table did not break and Excalibur unironically, well, he's always sort of ironic, but unironically called it said Osprey drove Store of Strickland into quote, the unforgiving desk And I for some reason, I just and now I'm the unforgiving desk has to be a segment on this show. That's just, I don't know what it means, but the unforgiving desk just my new favorite Anyway, that's it. long weekend to wrestling Congratulations to all the wrelers involved, especially congratulations to Sammy Zan Kz. you have any closing thoughts No You ready to get out of here? Yep. Let's do it man. Do you want to get some plugs Mor' Rero hot ninety seven six ten AM. Uh everyvery day on high ninety seven The episode of seven PM in Brooken is Out with the legendary Rashid Wallless Check that out myself, Melo, Monica Great ballt. Check it out Thanks guys. Thanks to our producer, Bruce Bald, thans for EP Binruz. Thankk you all for listening Um, I gota come up with a new catch phrase. Maybe it'll be something about the unforgiving death, orr maybe that's the beginning of the show live Yeah, I'm gonna get a new desk soon it'll be the Anyway. I'm just blabbering And That's it We'll see you back here Later this week, hum unoid Please No