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Cold open question of the week, Kaz. What's up, shoes? Do you see that um Curtis Axel got arrested? I did see that, yes. It was apparently a week ago. Nobody's making a big deal of it, which is the right thing to do. Uh, he's not a WWE employee, he's just a former wrestler. Um , but we're gonna talk about it anyway. This comes hot on the heels of the uh Ludwig Kaiser arrest . If you were booking WWE and Joe Hennig was one of your stars . How would you how would you turn this uh this McDonald's drive through drunken incident into uh into a storyline ? I wouldn't. You don't touch it? I wouldn't touch it at all. Uh at all. I wouldn't touch it at all. You don't think it'd be funny if he just like rammed his car into the McDonald? I don't I don't know what happened. I'm imagining now. If he just like just rammed his car, like, you know, just just headlong into the McDonald's, like broke down a wall, caused a wreck, everybody's going insane, and he just gets off and like dusts off his shoulder and he's just like absolutely perfect and just like walks off. That wouldn't no the one time he he he invokes the name of his much more famous and better at wrestling father shouldn't be right after a DUI. Yeah, do you think he's like, do you he when he's getting pulled over or whatever? He's like, Do you know who my dad is? Like, yes, Mr. Perfect, he's dead. Um did you see the picture? The mugshot though? I don't understand how this dude , as a bald man, has is like the same level of baldness as he was in WWE . Is this not weird that he's has like the same that he hasn't receded I don't have a mugshot DUI, but you've got but you've been in a drive-thru when you're under the influence, so you shouldn't have been there . I don't have a mugshot. Yeah, but okay. So you're a New York head. It's like how often are you in a drive-thru, I guess. Growing up in Texas, it's just like a rite of passage. There is a widespread rumor that the that the Whataburger strawberry shakes either cured drunkenness or just totally like made you un testable for drunkenness. There's a lot of late night whataburger shakes in my life. Taquitos are good too. Anyway, let's start the show . Welcome to the Mazman Show with Kaz. That was Shoes Koff. How you doing, buddy? I'm doing alright, shoes. How about yourself, man? I'm doing good. It's Clash in Italy this weekend . Another premium live event. Does this count as a Crooks in Castles? Sure, we is it just crooks and castles coal in Italy? Yeah, I think I think we've we've we've lost the plot with the crooks and crooks and castles. You know what I mean? Clash and the clashing the crooks and cast Yeah, it made a lot more sense. But we can't just call it clashing other Yeah, any other any other euphem ism I would have made about clash in Italy would have been definitely racially insensitive, so I'm just gonna not do it. Like like Italian r racist against Italians? Oh, one million percent. I was like, Hey, oh, hey, hey, where you going there? Ah I'm sure they don't talk like that, actually talk like that in Italy, but No, zero of them talk like that in Italy. That is that's a Brooklyn accent that you're doing. Hey, oh, hey. That's not how I speak in Italy. I'm bubble. Got it. TV of Latin once again. I mean, listen, our Italian American wrestlers teach us to do the the various like Italian cliched Italian hand gestures and stuff. So can't blame us for being racially insensitive. Tony D can't even get the hometown pop here. Let's we should crowdsource can we crowdsource before we get to the wrestling kind of can we crowdsource your um your your graduation speech? Oh right. Um Kaz is doing the graduate with valedictor what is it the graduation this is the doing the commencement speech, sorry, couldn't think of the word at your old high school, which is great. Congratulations. And I was trying to think of what wrestling promo or catchphrase he should work in . What do you think? I'm not working in a wrestling phrase. But most importantly, appreciate the time you have here, because as soon you'll be old, and you know, once you grow up, those are hard times, baby. And then just go into the whole thing. Just like you don't know hard times, Dad. Just start cutting a promo on all the kids. You could always draw in a little like uh a little you're the cream of the crut at the end. Oh something like that. You know what I mean? Like there's there's all of power, too sweet to be sour. Um I was gonna say I was gonna uh I was gonna see if I can get the students to acknowledge me, like as soon as a good one. Like Patrick School be like, acknowledge me. What do you think? If you just opened up like that, I do you think people would people would get it, right? But people get it? I don't know. I'm I'm I'm crazy enough to to to try it . I'm crazy enough to try it. I'm like, yo, Patrick School. Acknowledge me. And then anyone acknowledges me. It's not like they have to know the second half of a catchphrase. You say acknowledging me, I think that I think the general reaction of a crowd of people is to cheer. All right. If I tell my high school to acknowledge me, whoever if one person stands up and puts his finger in the air, I'm dedicating my entire speech to that one person. Okay. That's a good crowd. Invite him on the show. You are coming with me to summer jam. You got free tickets. Just for acknowledging me. Oh my God. That's fantastic. stuff Um any news this week before we get to Fabian Eichner Eichner signed with TNA. Good job by him. We were just talking about him the other day. Yeah. Um , I know what I want to talk about.ing You know, do you see this El Grande Americ ano mural that is now in how can we get a wrestling mural culture going here in America better? It feels like such a such a you know, like it like we can we should I'm an art director and a wrestling fan. I feel like I can make this happen. What do you think? Should we start just like a where where would be the spot? Should we do it in New York? Or do we do it in like, you know, Greenwich, 'cause that's where Stanford or whatever, 'cause that's WWE's hometown . Oh gosh. I think you do it in New York. Who wants to go to Stanford? Nobody. The only nice thing about Stanford is literally the snack bar at WWE . Oh, you mean you mean Snackdown? Yeah, Snackdown. That's the only place. Like if they if they created an actual snack down in Connecticut that like regular people could go to, like it would do numbers. Like if they opened like a little pop up restaurant and like just had, you know , Planet Hollywood up like and and make it like their thing in in Connecticut . They shouldn't I think it would do well. Why don't they just why don't they just do that? I'd rather I'd rather them do that than the Hulk Hogan grill that they're building across the street from the garden. Like the slam the slam restaurant, whatever it's called. They're turning it in the Hulk Hogan Grill. I don't know if it's called the Hulk Hogan Grill, but there's a wrestling themed restaurant uh opening up across the street from Basin Square Garden. I not the Square Circle Cafe. Squirrel shout out to Square Circle Cafe. There, theirs is dope. But uh there is one opening up yeah, Hulk Hogan's slam sports bar, uh opening right across the street from Mad ison Square Garden. And you can see it from the garden. You could see lots of mustaches and the red bandanas. Is it weird that his name is on it but he's no longer with us? No. Well sure, but it would make logical sense to me if they opened up a Hogan's Beach or whatever, one of the existing probably those. Yeah. But I'm saying if they opened up one of those across the street, but to create a new concept, I guess it could have been Hogan's dying dream to make Hulk Hogan slam sports bar work. I'll go . I mean no shortage of sports bars or at least bars in which you can watch sports in that part of town, but hey, you know, everybody'll be there after the wrestling shows. Um anyway, well that's yeah. So you'd rather do that. Um yeah I'm gonna I'm the I'm gonna figure s figure out what the what the what the legal hoops you have to jump through to doing murals are. Who should I make my first wrestling mural of? Oh gosh. Um your brother ball. No, I'm not gonna do ex I'm not gonna do current wrestlers unless they're like big champs. Okay. Like like legendary wrestlers. Hm . I'd say you know what? I'd think you'd do a good Daniels in Murray. Oh, that's a good one. He's a new legend, you know . Yeah. Modern legends of wrestling. Yeah, yeah. We got enough Andre and Hulk Hogan and Machos and even Bret Hart's. You know what I'm saying? Like let's let's let's we're done with the nineties, as the kids say, man. Let's get some new blood in there. Fly down to Georgia, do an AJ Styles one. There you go. I was gonna say are should we stick to New York icons? Like Taz is the first one who who were Oh, you you'd probably get like Damien Priest in there or something. Yeah, Priest. Hell's Kitchen. Uh a lot of this MJF. MJF that's New York Russell Legend. There you go. There you go. MJF mural. Matt Cardona. A lot of those ECW guys. Like like Tommy Dreamer, the Dudleys, they're New York. Yo, question. Has has MJF already surpassed has he surpassed Matt Cardona as the greatest New York wrestler . He's already said who was the who is the greatest New York wrong . Is it are we said c counting like the New York metropolitan area or New York State? I I would go the five boroughs in Long Island. Like if you're from like Rochester, I'm not I'm not counting that. I'm not counting that. Okay, let's see. Well long long island counts? Well you know who was born on you know who was born in Manass at Long Island? Who? Chris Jericho. Really? Yep. No way. His dad was playing for the whatever's at the time. Rangers? Was that playing for the Rangers? Yeah, yeah, pops right up. Chris Jericho, Mick Foley, Taz, Damian Priest, and Envy. Foley. I didn't think Foley got it. Yeah, Foley's got it. All right. So yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. So boom. Damn, I can't sorry, Matt. I wasn't trying to play you, Matt Cardona . But um okay, MJF from Plainview, uh Chris Jericho from Enhasset, Long Island, uh Mick Foley. Stat Statlander Kingston. Oh, here's a here's an interesting one. Hacksaw Jim Duggan. It's from Glenn's Falls. That's not the the met the metropolitan area, but still. Well, I said if you're from Rochester, it don't count, and like probably two of the biggest guys former . Who's from Rochester? China and rest in peace, Brody Lee. Both from Rochester, New York. Oh yeah, they used so it was to always be big when they would go back there with Brody. I forgot about that. That's true. That's true. Brooklyn Brawler, Big Bill, Damian Priest, Taz. Yeah. I don't know. Is MJF the greatest? It's it's between MJF and Jericho, but Jericho is a Canadian. He doesn't count. Even though he's born here. You're a Canadian buddy. Oh wait. It's between MJF and Mick Foley. Hook the Hooker President. I'm s nah, it's not Hook . It's not Hook. Um why is Carrie von Erick on this list? This is is a a f this fakest list. Yo, Wendy Chu, Bubberay Dudley, JTG, Karen Cross is from New York. He is not from New York. You kidding me? Where are they ? Get out of here. Born in New York, New York. I had no idea. Carrion Cross? Yeah. All right. He's definitely the biggest star of that of this list so far. He might be in there. He might be in there. Wendy Choo. Love me some Wendy Choo. Corey Zelina Vega. Uh priest . Um let's see. Nunzio. How did I forget about Nunzio in the FBI? Carrie von Erich was yeah, f from the movie. Carrie von Erich was born in Niagara Falls his dad was on the road. Man, shout out Karen Cross. This whole time I had no idea he was a New Yorker. I like him even more now. Lex Luger ? Buffalo, New York. Oh , that's Buffalo. I know, I mean the state of the water. There are a lot of wrestlers who were who were from this Ricky the Dragon Steamboat from the state of New York? Gorilla Monsoon, that's a good one . All right. All right. New York's coming stronger than I thought. I kind of thought like 95% of pro wrestlers were from like Canada and Texas. And now New Jersey. There's a lot of New Jer sey . Anyway. Jersey's big. I think Jersey has the better, better crew, to be honest. I like before I moved to the Northeast, I always got New Jersey and Long Island confused for some reason. L likeike, or they were all the same thing to me. And uh still not totally working work through that. So I get like you know, whatever . Um anyway, clashing where are we going? Italy coming up ? Oh what do you think? If I if I called you on Sunday, well it'd have to be like super early. If I called you at like midnight on on Saturday night and I was like, Kaz, I got a private jet. We're going to Italy. Are you down? Yes. Yes, I'm down. I'd never I'll never turn down a private jet invitation ever. I mean, I'm like, what if I was like Kaz? I got I guess I've got what if I was like I got two red eye tickets to New York, but I mean to uh to Italy, but they're free and there's some comp tickets there too. I already said I'd go. No, not uh not on a PJ, just on a regular we're taking the last Spirit Airlines flight before they officially shut down. Do you do you take the trip? Oh, you said Spirit Airlines. Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. No, thank you. I've never ruined Spirit in my life and I continue. You know what? I d I I there's one really great thing about spirit airlines. Maybe more than one, but one thing that I really love. They don't have first class, they just have what they call the big seats or hat, I guess, now at the front. So it's like business class size seats, and there's only I I guess you can buy them, but nobody ever buys them because nobody ever chooses them because everyone's flying spirit to be cheap, right? Or to save money . But so if you just go on Spirit Airlines, I can give you my my my my cheat now, my cheat code, because now they're out of business. Just go to the go to the uh the the the check-in desk every time you're gonna take a flight, just walk in and just be like, hey, I was just checking to see if you had any big seats left. And they'll sell you a big seat for 20 bucks or something like that. So like it's like they mark it down. And those seats are so nice. All right. Enough about the big seats. Let's talk about the big show, not the wrestler, the Chlas Niddly . Should we jump right in? Yeah. Do some Clash Picks? Yeah, let's do it. All right . And you can tell me and you a after we go through them all, you can admit that Clash Niddly is better than WrestleMania Night too. All right. Oh gosh . World Heavyweight Championship match, Roman Reigns versus Jacob Fatou. We're starting at the top in tribal combat . Should we go straight to picks? Let's go. Who's gonna win, Kaz? Uh I think Jacob Fatou might actually win this. But I'm trying to think my way too. Talking. And apparently Jacob Fatou might have gotten injured. Uh Liverpool tonight. Yeah. So in Liverpool of all places. Yeah. Yeah. It's a possibility he might have uh got injured today, last night. I don't know or Oh he was in a street fight. Everybody's blaming it for the street fight, but there's but but there's always street fights and cage matches at house shows and they're more often than not like the lowest intensity gig you could take because you're just doing like work punches for twenty minutes, you know? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But I I want to say Jacob's gonna win the world title here, but I'm gonna go Roman. I don't bet against Roman. I mean Roman is certainly the safe pick, right? Like, how could it be anybody but Roman almost? But why would you this has been I think they've actually successful ly lured me back into the mind tra p of you know, like the original Roman Reigns tribal chief run, where he would wrestle Kevin Owens for five straight pay-per-views and somehow you would talk yourself into Kevin Owens winning every time. Basically because it was like, why are we still doing this if they're not going to have him win? Right. And it feels like that for Jacob Fought too. It's like, why on earth would you immediately go into the rematch when you could have just saved it for SummerSlam ? You know, like not that you only get one chance at a rematch, but you know what I mean? Like, if it's if it it seems like it's almost more of a favor to to Jacob Fatou to not do the rematch right away, right? Make this seem like a time spanning epic rivalry and put it on a at so you know it at a at a bigger on a bigger stage. But we're doing it at Clash and Paris, which uh like we said, I mean Clash in Italy, which as mentioned, they're booking like it's WrestleMania, so maybe this counts. I I'm in the exact same place you are. It feels like Jacob Fatou should win this based on everything except that it's Roman Reigns and he has the title and we're working under the assumption he's gonna hold the belt through SummerSlam. Like I don't hard hard to get that out of your brain. Producer Bruce, who do you got? Who do you think is gonna win? It's hard to go against Roman Reigns. As much as I want Jacob Fattoo to win, just as you said, David, every time you think like, oh, this person should be winning against Roman Reigns. They don't. It's always on a bigger scale, and for him to lose at a show like this when he really has only lost on what like SummerSlams and WrestleMania has recently. It's like but is there a chance okay, even if Roman wins, what are the odds that something notable happens? Like what besides something notable's gonna happen, but I just don't know what like is it possible that like the fucking yeah could the Usos turn on Roman and join up with Jacob Fatou like is there is there a way that there's like some big storyline development that's not Jacob winning the title . Yeah. I mean, gosh, we are about two months away from SummerSlam now. So I mean you gotta well King of the Ring. I think King is King of the Ring the next uh the next thing it looks like. Yeah, so I don't know. I could the you could see nothing happen and then um Knight of Champions is next, but the next big one, I guess. Right. But Knight of Champions is that the same as King of the Ring. Yeah, yeah, sorry. Okay. Alright, so you know what? I could definitely see Am I wrong? I could definitely see something happening or nothing happening because I think we've all sort of penciled in uh Obafemi as the King of the Ring this year. And does the King of the Ring get a title match at uh SummerSlam? Is that I think they said that, yeah. If that stipulation still holds true, then nothing could probably happen. Maybe, you know, Roman just wins. Jacob Fatou has to fall in l ine and then uh or you know he he pretends to fall in line and just wows out and just does something completely unexpected and I hope they feud for like a year people. I hope they feud for a year and and Roman wins every match and every match is the you must acknowledge me stipulation. And after at the after every match, Jacob Fattoo's like, I acknowledge you are a piece of shit. And then the next month Roman's like, no, he has to acknowledge me for real, and then they have another match. And he just keeps avoiding it. Anyway, I w I I'm gonna pick Jacob fought too. You know why? Because why not ? I mean they we're all in the exact same place. It's just a matter of where you want to put your vote. Um Cody Rhodes, you WWE champion, Cody Rhodes versus Gunther . Um talk me into Gunther. I think we're all gonna pick Cody. What is the case for Gunther ? The case for Gunther is Cody is getting a little boring again. Uh and Yeah, I mean that's really it . Uh his his new thing is is um what is it? Easy to find, hard to beat. Yeah you know. Um I don't know. I don't know what you want to do with that. Like, if if you're gonna start with that and say, like, you know, you're hard to beat and beat one of the guys that is really one of the hardest guys to beat, unless you're like Jay Uso or Sami Zayn. Um yeah, uh it would be easy to kind of go with Gunther because he's a guy who sort of never loses and he hasn't won the WWE championship. And you know, maybe Cody chasing is fun again, but do you want to have Cody lose the title twice in one year? I don't know. You know, so um I mean that's that's that's my pitch for it. I mean, I don't know if you want do you want Gunther running SmackDown right now? Do you want him to be your top guy? Well I think I I first of all I do think it'd be interesting to see him in that role. Obviously he's been heavyweight champ of world world heavyweight champ before, but to have him as the top guy like what does an episode of SmackDown even look like? Like that's intriguing and maybe that really helps the character. But I think that the real answer to that question is if if he wins , if Gunther wins, the sh the show will still be about Cody Rhodes. Like that the feud that feud will be the top thing on the show for the next until SummerSlam, right? I mean that's that that'll they'll just carry it on. So maybe that would be the idea. You think uh uh between between Jacob Fatu and Gunther, who is more likely to win ? Um Jacob Fatou. I'd probably say Jacob Fattoo is the most yeah, he's probably the most certainly that's the way you would guess you go from the storyline, but still I just I feel like there's I feel like it's not a non zero uh chance that Gunther just wins. They just do a titles and maybe they flip it back to Cody next month or at SummerSlam or like whatever, you know? Cody chas ing is definitely more interesting. Um , and despite the fact that Cody will go out and have a great match, a sma uh Sammy's the Sami Zayn match, the um who is it who is oh, is it was Ricky Saints match . Um he'll go out there and have these bangers, but like it does feel like Cody's in some ways like a little bit like he's not in a Cody verse, but he does feel a little bit separate from a lot of the stuff that's going on in SmackDown. Am I crazy? No, you're not crazy. I mean, he is. You know, he's the champ. Yeah. There's certain people you gotta avoid with him. So you don't tie back into other stories, you know what I mean? Like, so I don't know. It's weird with that. Yeah, like when I when I was growing up, it was like you're Cody Rhodes should be out there breaking up every beatdown. He's your local champ. He's your champ, you know? Like every time the MFTs are going nuts, he should be out there like, you know, taking a swing at the MFTs. But he's not. He's doing his own thing. I do kind of feel like this is a non-finish match. Like if there was a spot for like I don't know, like a Drew McIntyre return, like that could be it. Ooh, you know what I mean? Like I could I'd be into Drew, Gunther, Cody, you know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? I'd be with that.. Say less That's the uh we we should just do we should let's have a contest to see what spin-off match from like what the follow-up matches is gonna get me most excited. All right. So you can pitch whatever you want. All right. Do we all have Cody on that one? Thumbs up from Bruce . No. Cody's officially picking I mean Bruce is officially picking Gunther. We can get on Mike, Bruce. Yeah, well so thing for me is with everything they've been doing for Gunther, like to have him lose to Cody, I don't know. would That just stall a ton of momentum. But on top of that, didn't it kind of feel like we were going towards Roman versus Gunther at the beginning of like right after Mania? And well, no, it's not like Oba. Yeah, but the Oba did that called him out or whatever. And that was at least at least if I remember correctly it felt like we were getting Gunther and Roman and then it kinda moved they moved him over to SmackDown with Cody and it's like well if Roman's gonna beat Jacob fat too, why would you change that from Gunther to Jacob. And so it's like if he was gonna lose, why wouldn't he just lose to Roman rather than coming over and losing to Cody? So I'm like I think he's gonna win. Oh okay. Well I'm gonna go with Cody. I'll let you be the bold outlier on this one. But that's I you know it's not crazy. I do think that they at some point they have to get WWE has to get a little bit cognizant of the Cody boredom issue, right, guys? I mean, don't you think that like this is a concept I'm not necessarily sure. It's um I'm not necessarily sure if it's Cody's fault that it Oh, I don't see how do you book a compo a white bread uh white meat, white bread baby face . Y y you you give him some shades of gray, you know? Like, oh no, no, I know there's an answer, but it but it's but it's just the position he's in now is the f it's the it's the it's the it's that it's the fault of that, not of Cody particularly . Um all right, so well obviously Bruce, you would say that Gunther's got better odds than Jacob Fattoo based on your picks. I don't know who I think I would pick. I think I would say I would Gunther is more likely than Jacob, but I can't totally disagree with you there, Kaz. All right. Women's championship match. Rhea Ripley versus Jade Cargill. This is a good one. I mean, I swear. Jay looked great the last time they fought, but like e i it's not even about ring work. This is just standing in the ring next to each other, holy shit. I mean they do a good job of capturing that on smack. I mean, yeah, on SmackDowns and whatever. Who do you think is gonna win? Rhea or Jade? I get the feeling Rhea's gonna retain. You know, um I'd love to see them try and top what they did at WrestleMania. I thought their match was really underrated. That was really good. Um but you know it it'll be difficult to see Rhea Ripley drop the title so soon after just you know taking it from Jade. Um I'd be surprised. I'd be happy about it, but I just don't see it happening. Uh I'm gonna go with Jay uh I'm gonna go with Rhea Ripley to retain and uh you know clean and easy finish man. You know I don't think we get any turns. I don't think we get any interruptions. Like I think we get like a straight up straight up dub . I mean, yeah, I I wasn't even considering a turn either, but it's the easiest thing layup in the world to have the baddies be like, now we were never your friend to Jade, right? Like there could be that could be we easy enough. But yeah, I think we're gonna hold serve. I mean, we're gonna hold serve here. I don't think anything big is gonna change. Although it is worth opening up as we go to the the last two matches on the card, that like all of these matches are either WrestleMania or backlash related, right? They're all they're all spin-offs of like existing matches. Or Saturday night's main event, sorry. But they're all that I think, right? With the exception of Cody Rhodes versus Gunther, which we have seen them in the ring to gether, everything is basically a rematch of a match we've seen before. So doesn't something interesting have to happen to save Clash and Idley from seeming like the world's biggest house No, I mean I think it's I think the matchups itself are just really good. And if you can just deliver on the matches, sure I don't think you necessarily need to have like a big return or a big heel turn or not a big heel turn, but like something like that. Like one of these matches has to go the other way, I guess is what I'm saying. Like it's either gotta be Jacob or Jade or or Sol Rukka or Brock or Brock Lesnar. Right? I mean, they've been teasing the whole Charlotte thing, you know. Like I feel like it wouldn't make a ton of sense to have this whole Charlotte Rhea, you know, tension with Alexa well they were especially last week totally agree but they were like but they were so friendly after their last match like they had Yeah they were they were like high friendly but I mean God Charlotte was talking with us a few weeks ago. And um she definitely doesn't sound like somebody who's you know cool just being in the tag team division for the rest of her career. Like we know we actually did that was on my that was on my list of questions. Uh not are you cool with being a tag team wrestler, but basically are you cool with being a tag team wrestler? She certainly seems to be enjoying herself more than previous years. So hopefully I hope that she's if if being in a tag is part of that, and I bet it is a different level of pressure and, you know, mind headspace and everything else. But if that's the case, I betcha it wouldn't shock me if she hung around there more. But I think I said before Charlotte versus Jade versus Rhea Ripley, triple threat at SummerSlam feels like a home run. I mean, wouldn't that that would just be incredible. Just like I said, just the visual aspect of it. But And I and I have a hard time seeing Jade getting pinned cleanly again. You know what I'm saying? So like I I I get a feeling Charlotte is gonna Charlotte and Alexa is gonna figure their way into this match somehow. Yeah, this isn't like protecting Andre the Giant, but sure, like Jay Cargo shouldn't be eating clean pins that much. It just diminishes the value of them when they happen when there's other ways out. So when you're when we're complaining on Sunday that it was a cheap finish, remember, rewind the tape, Bruce. I said that I was in I endorsed it. Um it's Rhea Ripley or non-finish. Or I I think I'm just gonna go and go with Schmozz as like the third option here. Like it's just what w whatever a non-finish is in wrestling. Get in the field basically of of nonfinishes. All right . I see championship match, Becky Lynch versus Sol Rucca I think Becky's gonna retain. Um really I think Becky's gonna retain. Like Sol seemed like such a slam dunk on the main roster, and she still probably will be, but I think putting the intercontinental title on her this soon might be a mistake. Like it might we still kinda don't don't even know who Sol Ruka is really. Agreed. You know? Like she's just kind of this cool, beautiful surfer chick with the cool moves, but we don't know her yet. We don't know how she r responds to adversity. We don't know how she responds to victory. A lot of her matches have been non finishes. Well, and the surfer thing always felt a little bit like like like stuck on to me. Like I know that she is a surfer. I know that that's what a surfer would look and act like because she's a surfer. Like it b it's just like, you know, like a basic logical circle there. But like, I don't know. I just see it like I I don't know what I would expect a surfer wrestler to be. Well, don't haven't we have who are who are previous surfer wrestlers? Was was Johnny Ace a surfer or was he a skateboarder? I think it was a skateboarder. Yeah, he was a skateboarder, but we got surfer sting. Surfer. Well, he didn't really surf though, did he? He just looked, we just called him surfer sting. Okay. Who surfed? Oh, the sandman. Wasn't the s I think the sandman was originally a surfing gimmick. The Sandman did not surf, Dave. The Sandman, the beard candlestick carrying Sandman. Yeah. Was catching waves. Where? Where was he catching the waves that day? I could be totally wrong about this. Let me let me let me look here. Nothing about the sandman screams out hang 10. In uh in April 1992, he arrived in Eastern Championship Wrestler as a crowd favorite. His gimmick was a surfer carrying a surfboard and wore a black wetsuit with blue and pink lines. He won his first EC . That's why he's called the Sandman, I guess. He won his first ECW. He won his first ECW championship from Don Morocco, Mr. the Magnificent Morocco in nineteen ninety-two, but lost it back to him in ninety-th ree . And at the end of ninety-two, he changed his name from Mr. Sandman to the Sandman. Um I'm not gonna lie, that is probably the most shocking wrestling news I've hear I'll hear in quite some time. That the sandman had nothing to do with Metallica, sleep ing, or Mariana Rivera . It was just sand. That's why they called them . I'm shocked. Yeah, it's pretty crazy . Uh the this this section is called Surfer and Pimp. We I guess he was a pimp gimmick at some point following this . Famous pimp. The sandman was also a pimp. You know what? This man had way too many wrestling jobs. I believe not a bit. We just saw on WrestleMania weekend wrestle uh the invisible man to just a standing ovation from the crowd. Bro, I I called I called a sandman uh we had sand man at um at uh fourth rope in the ECW arena. You know what I mean? Like one of the best times of my life was calling a sandman entrance to enter sandman. I was I was losing my shit. But uh I did not know this brother had so many jobs. Okay . I'm shocked. Shocked and appalled . Um so yeah, I think that's the answer. So Rucca needs to carry around a kendo stick and a beer can and have a cigarette coming out of her mouth. Now that is a wrestler I can get behind. I think Sue's gonna win. And it's for me as simple as like they changed it to a non-title match at some at Saturday night's main event. Like we it was supposed to be a title match. They took that away for some reason. In my mind it has to be, oh no, we're let's just run this back at Clash. And so we're not gonna have the title change until then. But , you know. And and you said, and yes, it is a lot to put on a wrestler that young and that new to the main roster, but like you could have said that about Randy Orton. You could have said that about, you know, like who whoever, right? And and um trick wins shit and and uh and she's the person of all of these call-ups she's the one that that you want to you know put the spotlight on and say like yes we are do we're calling our shot here. She's winning the IC title so that when she wins the world title at WrestleMania in six month or eight months or you know, a year and a half, then you won't be shocked. She's that kind of wrestler. And she's done a good job, man. I mean, she's she's still got some work to do on her promo, but I think that part of that is just bringing out her voice in a loud way. And she was, but she's she didn't seem out of place against Becky Lynn. She's the greatest talker in women's wrestling history, probably. Um anyway, I think Sol's gonna win. Bruce, Bruce is looking at this guy like he's suddenly on the spot. Now you you had said best women talker ever, and I was just trying to think about who else is on that level. But yeah, I well Sherry, I mean Sherry's on the list, but uh but again, but like I knew her as a as a talker, I mean as a as a mouthpiece, as a manager, not as a wrestler. Um Um yeah, not people who incidentally wrestled, you know, like real wrestlers. There's probably somebody that's more that's totally obvious. No, she's up there. I mean, yeah, I love Becky on the mic. But yeah, I think uh I'm I'm with you, Dave, that I don't know exactly which way I think it's gonna go, but I'm trying to figure out how the non-title match being at Saturday's minute man affects it. 'Cause my thought was if you were gonna have her win, maybe have it be on the show where she'll probably get more time. Mm-hmm. Saturday night.. I can see that Yeah. So I was like, we changed it originally, but I can see your talk as well. But there's only five matches on this show. I mean it's standard for modern WWE, but there's always a lot of room in those in those shows. No matches really have to run sh ort, you know? Um and probably and inevitably one of the matches will be Schmozy. Not necessarily like 30 seconds long, but like, you know. Um yeah, I don't think this is going to be a squash match. Although it could be that could be the funniest way to run it. Just have soul beater in like 30 seconds. That way Becky Lynch has the excuse. Oh, you know what's by the way, they're they're reheating the Jessica Carr thing. That's what I forgot to mention. I I think think that the ba that we're going to J Becky Lynch versus Jessica Carr and what wa the only way she's such a it's such a clean way to take the title off Becky and have her in her next feud in ten seconds that to just to have Sol win, have Becky blame Car and have Becky versus Carr at night of champions or or um or I guess you could push it off to SummerSlam or like whatever. I mean, that's that's a that's a big match. I don't think it's a SummerSlam match. But I mean it's really it's a Saturday night's main event match, but they're not gonna do it that way. Were you alive? Were you you guys weren't watching wrestling when Danny referee Danny Davis started wrestling . Sounds familiar, huh? No, it was way back in ninety I mean in eighty-four, which I I can't believe I even remember it, when he basically to the referee Danny Davis turned heel and then then started wrestling with the Hart Foundation. Uh, he like he was buddies with Jimmy Hart and everything. It was a very weird thing. And also just complet the weirdest part about it as a kid was that at some point the angle was over and he just went back to being a referee. Like Jack Tunney no longer had an issue with his honesty or whatever. Very, very strange. Anyway, referee gimmicks don't generally last long, although you know, e uh the the vast majority of referees are former wrestlers, so there should probably be more of them um especially with the wonder's neck surgery is doing these days. I'm gonna pick Sol Ruka. So who's your official pick, Bruce? Yeah, I think I'm gonna go with Sol Ruka. As you said, but I'm I'm going with you for the whole, you know, they had the first match. Why why why not have it go happen there? Because it'll happen here. This episode is brought to you by Hulu. Praised as Hulu's fresh spin on crime comedy. Deli boys returns with an all-new season. 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Like so we this is where I'm thinking too, but go on, finish what you're gonna say. I was about to say, like, oh, you thought that uh WrestleMania was something, you know what I mean? Like if if if I don't know. The one thing that I think people had the biggest issue with Brock Lesnar coming out of retirement for was that they probably thought they got worked. It was perfect. It was well, yeah, that too. But like it was a perfect sort of like passing of the torch to like the next big thing with Oba Femi . Another way to do it though, man, is to really have this d ude, you know, dominate him. And then again, on the other side, you got to be cognizant of like, okay, eventually we got to see Opafemi take a L and see how he responds to that. And I guess Brock's a display. Brock's an easy way to do it. He's the easiest way to do it. You know what I mean? Like he's the only person that would make sense for him to get that first main roster loss against. So that's a good point. I mean it wouldn't it it it sucks like if you're like if you were like really happy with the way WrestleMania went, but at the same time , one of my biggest worries coming out of WrestleMania is that, like, okay, he beat the biggest, baddest dude on the planet in his first WrestleMania. Where do we go from here? You know what I'm saying? Like, you kind of need to spin the block at least once, you know? Like you kinda have to. Uh but um doesn't shock me. I guess for me, it's that we were all expecting those of us who didn't believe he was fully retired, that Brock Lesnar and Obafimi would run it back at SummerSlam . Mm-hmm . Because it's the only, it's the it's the biggest show, right? Now, obviously, we've said as we as I mentioned before, they're booking Clash in Italy like it's a WrestleMania. There's o it's just that there's five matches and probably it'll feel like a house show when we're done on Sunday. You know, like but but in terms of the card, it's hard to imagine a bigger five match card than this in WW E Um But I but SummerSlam would be the obvious place for the rematch. So when he made his shocking return on Monday Night Raw, it would the thing that occurred to me is you know what maybe maybe it works maybe the SummerSlam match works even better if Oba beats him again. You know, like have Oba re just like okay, we're all expecting Brock to get his win back. It's gonna be cool. And then Oba just demolishes him. Just like maybe Oba wins. Do you think it's because they feel like Brock's gonna get cheered wildly in Minnesota and they want to at least build up some sort of like sympathy for Brock coming home to finally . Yes, but actually yes, but actually the reverse. I think yeah, I think that it I think they probably feel like they owe it to Brock to put him over as a babyface in his last match. If he wants to do it. You know, like whatever. And yes, let him get his cheers in Minnesota. I don't think it's gonna be hard. I think you're right. He'll he'll get cheered organically to some extent . But and I think now that we've worked past the I think one of the real smart things about bringing him back here, if again, this is all part of the plan that only I am imagining. A smart thing is to get the booze out of the way. Now, obviously Brock's gonna getting the booze out of the way is sort of sort of the story of the past like two years of Brock's career, and that's not necessarily a compliment, but like it's um but I do think that it's that it's like the people are going to be maybe not logically but they're going to they they they were inevitably going to be upset when they feel like they were they were worked by Brock Lesnar's retirement, right? So we'll get that out of the way now. And so it's so he doesn't have to worry about getting those reactions at SummerSlam . Um if indeed this is where it's going, who the hell knows? I think Brock losing twice and then saying, like, no, no, no, I'm not gonna retire. I got one more in me. You know, I'm gonna do this and then they can do the Rocky training videos and but it's I don't know what hi his is just punching slabs of meat in the in the you know, hanging on the hook, I guess. I don't know what the what those Brock Lesnar's doing. Um but yeah, and just have it be one big last match and I'm doing it in my hometown and it's gonna be great. That would be how that that would be my expectation. I I honestly assume that the betting lines are way in favor of Brock. Yeah, can you can you can you Google the betting lines if we can run thermal quick, Bruce? Um and I do think Brock is the smart pick, but I sort of feel like it's gonna be Oba. So again, I'm torn I'm as torn as I am on on all of these. Wait, if you were gonna do a lead uh stone cold lock, Kaz, would it be Rhea Ripley retaining? That feels like the closest thing to a lock on this card. Yeah it would be believe in Becky Lynch or whatever, but like you know, in terms of like the conversations we've had that's the closest thing to a to one that we all agree on. Yeah. I mean, dude, I I'd almost probably say Roman is the second closest lock because I still am not I don't think we really got uh true clarity on Roman's June schedule. So like whatever happens on Clash in Italy, I'm willing to bet it's gonna put Roman out for a long With or without the title? With or without the title. You know what I'm saying? Like is he gonna be is it gonna be because he lost the title and he's gone? Is it gonna be because he got the shit kicked out of him and he's and he's gone for a month. But I'm almost positive we're not gonna see Roman for the entire month of June. And this Italy match might be, you know, the last time we we we see him until it's time to rev up for uh you know the pay per view after Saudi because I'm almost under the impression Roman will not be in Saudi. Uh so um we'll see man. If it did feel like th all that was all sort of a cover up, right? That when they announced that they're like, No, no, no, no. We just hadn't talked about his schedule yet. You know, whatever. And then it was like, no, I think that he's just never gonna, you know, I think he's taking a lot of time off. Um yeah . Uh I don't disagree. I like the idea of him taking some time off. It's kind of funny to think and again, SummerSlam is not two months away, it is four months, three or four months away, right? Three month but but we're still targeting Summerslam with so much of the booking now. It would be sort regardless if it's SummerSlam or Knight of Champions or a thing after that. But it would be funny if SummerSlam was another just all these matches again, right? If it's just all like the it we're just in a rematch season right now. Because you could definitely see Roman Jacob going to SummerSlam, right? If Jacob whatever happens, Roman gets put out and he makes it back in time for the rematch. You could totally see Cody and Gunther going, aga andin particularly if Gunther w ins. Uh so you could certainly see some version of Rhea and Jade going again, which by the way is the closest thing we have to a lock and also the match that we called up uh we called for a no a non a non finish, which is just I guess the greatest well I gu,ess we'd call that ironic back in the day. Um but you could doubt we talked about putting Charlotte in that match and doing that again in at at Summerslam. Becky versus Sol Ruck, I don't think is gonna happen again at Summerslam, but it very well may. Becky might just go fight go might go fight the referee and be back against Seoul at SummerSlam. And Obad , we're already counting down the days till they fight at Summerslam. So anyway, it would be hilarious for Brock Lesnar if his final match was Clash in Italy. And that's just on his resume for the rest of time. Uh just the least Italy. The the last guy in the WWE roster you'd expect to say, Oh yeah, I'm taking the family to Italy this summer. Um but anyway. All right. What which of those matches are we looking forward to the most? Kaz, go. I mean it's tribal combat. You know, like it's it's it's it's it's tribal combat. Every tribal combat match has had something happen, you know, like it almost feels like something has to give. And the story they've been telling with Jacob Fattoo is that like, okay, all the things, tradition isn't his strong suit. Like, he's not just gonna fall in line. Like, he's all of these rules, all of these traditions, all of these things that have been established in the heritage of the Fatu and the Waii, bloodline, Samoans, all that type of stuff. Jacob doesn't adhere to any of that shit. All right. So I think they spent the last couple of years establishing things like tribal combat and the bloodline and acknowledging me and the ulafala and all this type of stuff. And Jacob Hatu was sort of brought in to be the outlier to all that stuff. So for all the new viewers that don't understand the lore, Jake of Fatto kind of He thumbs his nose out of it. He thumbs his nose out of it it's like yo, like I'm I'm I'm a wild man. Like I don't gotta adhere to none of that. So win lose or draw, I feel like that's gonna be the most interesting thing that happens on the show. And just seeing where Roman Jacob and the Usos take her from there is probably gonna tell a lot about SummerSlam or just tell a lot about the World Heavyweight Championship. Uh the most interesting world championship on the show right now. Um and then I I and would probably say right after that the match I'm most interested in seeing is probably Becky Lynch and Sol Ruka because uh like I said Soluka is somebody who I think we're all been very high on, but let's be honest, like those first these first couple of you know cracks at the main roster hasn't been like the whoa, this guy is it, this girl is it, sort of you know, things that we've saw with you know, uh unfortunately the bar has been set so ridiculously high with Patrick Williams, Oba Femi, not just that, but it's been set high by the women's division. That it's like there's only Roxanne Perez, I mean you got I mean listen, Sol Ruka is a physical freak, but like and she's but aside from being tall , her moves are w or are in another stratosphere than what most of the other people can do. Yeah. It's not about the moves. It's just that she's she's had she she just has to have a good day in the office. Like there has to like the match has to be just something, a match where just you know, nothing happens that people are like, uh, it would have been good if, you know what I'm saying? It would've been good but, you know, like she just has to have a match with no red marks on it. And then we can just be like, that's it. That's it. But you're right I mean, but she I mean she's certainly available able to have a really good match. And I guess the point that I was the point that I was trying to do isn't Becky Lynch, who the she's the best at taking offense. Like that is her thing. NXT is better at athletes like soul than the main roster is because of the smaller venue and the camera work is slightly different. Like you can actually you feel like you're underneath the move sometimes in NXT. You know, when people are when she's doing the soul snatcher, when everybody does their crazy like like, you know, athletic death-defying moves. It it just it looks cooler, it looks more electric on NXT. And it's hard. I think it's hard for Seoul because she's not she is a physical freak, but she doesn't look like China , you know, like whatever, and doesn't even look like Charlotte or or or Jade Cargill at this point. And she's not she's not small enough to come over and to get over as like a giant killer. Um, I think it's just a little bit harder with the roster the way it is to prove how great she is in the way that she was able to establish in 15 seconds in an XT . Um but I think she's a done deal. All right, we got we got betting odds now Alright. Cody and Gunther are both had the exact same odds. They're both at minus 120. That's pretty crazy. Especially because the one that we said was the toss-up was Rhea Ripley versus Jade Cargo. Rhea's at minus 900, Jade's at plus 500. So I guess I guess Cody Gunther is the bet is the is the closest thing to a toss-up because that is just a toss-up. Roman Reigns is minus five hundred, Jacob Fatu's plus three hundred, about where you'd expect it. Brock Lesnar, minus three hundred, Oba Femi plus two hundred . Sol Rucca minus three fifty, Becky Lynch plus 225. If I was gonna, if I was going to place some ill-advised bets, they would definitely, I would definitely bet on Obafemi . Mm-hmm. And next probably probably I don't know. Did I pick Jacob Fatu? I guess I'm obligated to pick him. I don't know. It's a toss-up. That Cody Gunther line is really weird. I can't even I don't I mean, I I haven't been I don't follow betting lines for wrestling that closely, but like I can't even think of what the last toss-up was or would have been . It's pretty pretty incredible. Um oh yeah, Noche de los Grandes is this weekend, too . The War Raiders are down there working. War Raiders versus Pagano and Psycho Clown, just absolute two absolute legends. Uh Vikingo versus E Heldo uh Dr. War Wagner V Wagner Jr., who is just who I love . Um and looks like such a freaking beast next to Vikingo . Um and El Grande Americano versus original El Grande Americano . The new El Grande Americano, the one who may or not may not have been recently arrested and bailed out by Gunther, uh, is at minus five hundred. Originals at plus three hundred. That sounds right to me because I think it make it's we said it a million times. It makes so much more sense to unmask Chad Gable and force him to figure out what's gonna come next and he'll be able to do it because he's hilarious and wonderful. You just don't, you just don't end the El Grande Americano gimmick, the new El Grande Americano gimmick, as well as it's working in in Mexico. And in the United States. He's just too good. He just got a fucking mural painted of him. Let's not mess with success. Right? And and can American fans get it together? Like can we get it together? Can we like to cheer for the right one? Can we cheer for the right one? It's so crazy. Like watching them on Raw, they get almost they get a decent to like little no reaction when they come out and then they go to Mexico and they get treated like uh fucking Beatles and it's just like Well it is being played for comedy in the US uh to you know almost exc almost exclusively. Um and they've dumbed it down a lot in the U.S. I think probably just to appeal to a younger demo, like whatever, but it does feel like they just the fact they start calling them the original El Grande Americano, unless it's instead of letting there be confusion. When they brought out the Creed brothers, they didn't do anything to like they kind of have given up on the announcers being confused, like performatively confused, and that that to me is the best part. You know? So maybe that's part of why it's not working. Um, but we should get it together. That would it would make a lot more sense. Also, can we get Chad Gable? And I'm just gonna, I'm sorry, dudes. I'm not I'm not doing Kfabe for this. It's too confus ing. Um maybe Chad Gable can borrow in borrow the gimmick of um Neil Masqueras and just have like a hundred masks on at one time, you know? So like when they try to unmask him, he's got another mask underne Oh, he has the plastic mask. Well, I was watching somebody posted online. I don't even know where I was watching this last night, but I was watching the the um one of the sting one of the one of the you know shocking Sting versus NWO moments or Sting where a dummy dressed as Sting, do you remember this drops down from the ceiling and goes through the ring floor for some reason? And then when they pull out that is clearly a d a da like a mannequin. And then when they pull them out, now it's actually sting, but the NWO doesn't realize it yet. So they just toss this man nequin, they think, against the front rope so Hogan can slap it in the face, and then it turns out it's Sting. It was the actual Sting. Um just just fantastic stuff. And that I think that whole thing happened during a who was it? It was DDP versus dude, was it Scott Hall? It was just some like DDP versus NWO member match and then the whole NWO made the run-in and it was just great. Just great. We spent like a year being entertained by just run-ins in every single show . Things have changed. Um is that it? Do we get through ever do we get through everything? Is there not a secret AEW pay-per-view this weekend? Oh well here's a question for you. Which match will be more brutal? Tribal combat or the Philly street fight we saw Wednesday on Dynamite between uh Sheeta and uh Statland Part of it was that it was a women's match, part of it was just due to the the excellence of Stat and Cheetah, but man, that match looked like it hurt. Like every bit of that match looked like it hurt. Um that was a whole lot of fun. What else happened on Wednesday? Um uh oh we were talking about Kevin Knight before we came on the air . K what a great promo from Kevin Knight . What do you think? He's doing this is exactly the right thing. He said everything I said he should say. Yeah. He did everything I I said he should do. I'm a fan of it. You think he's listening to the show and taking notes? Oh he listens to the show. I know this for a fact. He also seems to have he also seems to have grown four or five inches in the by turning heel. Like he's so much taller. He was always tall. I know, but he always just sort of looked like that dork speed ball. But that should make him look taller. Now he's just towering over him. Um it's it's perception. Dork up osmosis. It's like when you stand next to a dork, you just see more dorky . Once he's by himself, it's like, wait, is he six four? It's like, yeah. Big guy. Um what else? Osprey and the Death Riders together does still doesn't make sense, but it's really fun. I mean it makes sense. Like they're telling us why, but you know, deeper sense. Um KJ's back . Your favorite tag team is finally reunited. Are you excited? Who ? Tay Jay ? Brother. Tay Melo and um and um Jay uh what's her fucking name? Anna Ja. Yeah Anna Jay. Exactly . Yeah, I guess we'll leave that in. Yeah. They won. They're I guess they're gonna fight the the uh the the tag champs now. Um the Twin Towers or whatever they're called. Yeah, they'll be fighting them. By the way, notable. TJ looked great in their return, but they pinned Dave Everett and in doing so protected her partner Ali Catch, who's one of our greatest living pro wrestlers. Big shout to Ally Catch. Um Brody Kling over King over Claudio. Uh what else? Brian is Brian Cage, my favorite wrestler . He's so good and just looks so much like a wrestler. And now that he doesn't have the Mohawk anymore, he's like, you know, marginally less like less like awesome when you're like eight years old, but probably more awesome gener inal, in general now with the beard. I don't know, man. I'm really every time I see him wrestle, I'm like, oh, this guy again. And then he gets in there, I'm like, no, he can go. So congrat ulations to him. What do you think about Roosh ? Just in terms of your do you like him as a wrestler scale? You're shaking your head? I mean, he's good. Yeah, he's good. He's got a little catchphrase. He's got a world title match with MJF next week. Um he's got a new catchphrase i've never thought i've never thought about roosh more than more than that to be honest like here's the thing about roosh he has a he has a vibe something some correlation of the it factor that we always talk about where like when he comes out, he feels different than all of the other wrestlers. Right. There's a there's like a uniqueness about him that really matters. Like he comes out on the stage and you're like, oh, it's Roosh. I haven't seen him wrestle in 18 months, but like that's Roosh. I know Ro Physically he looks a lot different. But he has he he looks physically a lot uh smaller, a lot a lot less um Brian Cage y out there is one way of putting it. But I guess it doesn't really matter as much in AEW. That was kind of his gimmick for a while, though, is like the in that family. He was the one that was just like ginormous. Um but yeah, I it's he's an interesting choice, but I don't I'm not mad at it. Um it's weird that they're giving him a title match though, 'cause like dude, that famil that family will fucking shoot on you, man. Like they will. They'll go outlaw, man. They could just start running the running around the world with the AEW world title and running their own little like outlaw promotion. Um I don't think my expectations for the rat the rascals right off the bat weren't super high, but it is interesting to see the just the career arc of some of these people that have gone back and forth. They set up a Ciampa versus Jericho feud, which is the feud I never I didn't realize that I really needed. Like, is there anybody better for Jericho to be feuding with at this point than Tommaso Ciampa? Unless unless you're at a Ciampa stand that's just like he belongs nowhere but the main event. Like I feel like this is a is it that's exciting for a Jericho match in twenty twenty-six, right? Mm-hmm. It is. I mean, Jericho's been uh doing well since his return and Champa's found new life in AEW, he's already got two of the best matches they've had all year. Uh he's probably gonna get a great one out of Jericho. So uh it should be interesting, man. I'm a big fan of the psycho. Yeah, because he's actually he,'s comparable in size, but so much stronger than a lot of the other dudes his size that like he's actually a perfect physical matchup for Jericho. Um yeah, was that it? Is that pretty much it? Oh, Andrade versus Ace Austin was really good. That was just your quintessential a really good AEW match that like you know might have been the match of the year or any other promotion, but very, very good. Um yeah. Oh, and Mark Davis over Jungle Jack Perry. That seemed like an obvious one. But we talked a little bit about why that matters. We'll come back to Jack Perry's Jack Perry wrestling in saboo pants and no shoes. Um didn't fare well. But you know, shouts for him for knowing his history. All right, we got SmackDown tonight . It'll be tape delayed, so by the time that you're listening to this, you can probably Google the results. Cody they they have not announced very much Cody um is going to address Gunther or Gunther's attack on him and Jay Cargill has a final message for Rhea Ripley so basically we've been guaranteed two promos . Um maybe they'll bring out a bunch of Italian celebrities. Italian wrestlers? Are there are are there famous? Italian I guess it's just the FBI. It's like Italian Americans. Oh, Julia's Italian. She's half Italian, but apparently doesn't speak Italian. She's just half Italian. So but maybe they love her there. This might be the moment for and Julia got uh got the got the new hair or the new old hair. She's just like a no more braids bleach blonde again. So I think this is a good this is this is Julia season, guys. I'm just get make sure you're ready for it. Um any way. Well that's it man. That's a weekend of wrestling. You excited? Yeah man, enjoy Clash in Italy this weekend. Uh yeah. Should be the fun weekend to rap. If I get my hands on a private jet, Kaz, I'll let you know. Please do, but it'll have to be after one o'clock, man. I gotta do my speech. On Sunday. Yeah. Or on Saturday. It's Saturday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Clash is Saturday. Why do I keep saying Sunday? Oh, because du fucking double or nothing was on Sunday and I got it in my head. Yeah, Clash is Saturday. Alright, we're gonna have to get the Concord out of the garage then because we don't have we won't have a lot of time to get there. Um 'cause it starts at two, right? Two East Coast? I think that's right. Two o'clock. So so you'll just go straight from the freaking commencement to where you gonna where you gonna watch the show? Local sports bar? I have no idea, but probably back home. I'll I'll just I'll just bust it back home by the time. See you got a busy day. Day. You got a you know, we'll see. I'll just I'll probably watch it by the time it's over. We'll see . Um yeah, that's right. But you've got a big day. You got a commencement, you got a Western Conference Finals game that's gonna matter a lot for your Knicks future? It it matters, but it doesn't. Whoever plays the Knicks are gonna lose in five. This is crazy. You're crazy. No, I'm not crazy. All you guys glazing the Western Conference are crazy. These guys have been beating each other around. I don't think that I know the definitive answer. I at least have some some Lost a game in a month to continue doing what they've been doing. Point of comparison by I haven't lost a game in a month either, dude. And I and I haven't touched a basketball. Um which is basically the same as um as uh Mitchell. You know. Yeah, he hasn't touched a basketball in a month either. Um anyway . Okay, well, it'll be an exciting weekend. We're just on today. Friday's a weird day to do a podcast, I guess. Anyway, enjoy Italy or or uh whatever wherever you guys will be over the weekend. Kaz, do you want to get some plugs in? Yeah, man. 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