Navigating Sexist Views in Family

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It's the Thursday G Eedition Every Thursday we talk about Monday's episode and we answer your questions or dilemmas about life, love, family and friend Whatever you on Mom how a fun for you today Pfect gl give mother fire. Me shanty. U On Monday we had Eve on, do you know Eve? The rapper Eve No. Eve. Who's that girl E's that girl. Oh Who's that girl? Oh coming E's that girl Wh's that girl He's a girl d d d. Who's that girl dad d d's You're waiting fucking time d. My same to you. Okay, do you recognize that I do. after all this time Eve's a hop legend. Yeah. Proper bonfide hip hop legend.. We talked about Grammyyss touring some of the big It' coming on Monday She was on the Monday show She was. Yeah. thanks for listening. Okay. We talk about twiglets. She doesn't like twiglets. Doould want to see a clip? Let's get it. Here's your next one Mama is the bum Definitely not me Oh sure. I have tried with this Marma, even with those weird sticks that people bring out during Christmas. What are they called? Twiglets. Yeah. I'm trying. If I'm drinking, maybe. You know what I mean Like Christas drink with a twiglet? I'm not mad. You've actually mentioned twiglets in an interview with the Times. I'll give you the exact quote. Okay. During Christmas I will have four of those fucking Marmite twiggy things. But that's it. Yep, that's how I feel He guy That was Who's that girl's that girl la la la la la la la Who's that girl L la la la la la la la la's that girl L la la la la la la la la Do you like toiggle this one I love to adest. Yeah. I. Do you like Mite? I'd drink mam, I'd drink a shallot. Yeah With what? shhallot? Shallots. Yeah. So you have mamma and shallots as a hot beverage Yeah king hell. Jesus Christ, are you not worried about? No, I didn't drink that breath must fucking reough. Do you put a spoonful of marmite into hot water into boiling water? T about boiling water, mix it and chopp some shallots and We have it drink and bite that onion. It's beautiful. 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Yes, of course So when it gets hotter, as it has been getting hotter, a lot of men like to just walk around with their tops off What do you think about that I like thatad. I like that. I hate it. They't no. Can I be clear? no, no, no. Now you're saying if you've got a certain body, it's okay to do it. Yeah. No.. you have big goops And you need a bra, donon't take not No. It doesn't matter what your physique is. Do not do it. The fuck you do? Why not keep your is unacceptable. to be walking around in the street He mad? No. don't like it, not for me That's my hot take If you have a six pack Noope In fact I'd say if you got a six pack even worse. You make other people feel bad about themselves I don't think you should be taking a top off. Have Wh' have you got on the beach? On the beach just obious? No, no and you want to get an ice cream from your top on't get an ice cream that Okaykay, look, that's a gray area. All right. I think that's a bit different. But if you're if you went out here And people are walking around in the street with their tops off. Is that acceptable? No, it's acceptable Be you have to accept it, you're not stopping But the point is it's a disgrace You know when they take the top and tuck in the bottom of their shorts and they're wandering around fucking h. They think they are good looking. That's why. Okay. They need attention. Yeah. Yeah, don't me all We're all validation addicts here aren't we? A aren't we guys? I'm not. that you are Ben you definitely it throw you open. I'm not saying this' an insult, but you are Well, not so much. Chom I'm on the fence about you. Okay And that will upset you because you love validation Now we're going to show you some hot weather fashion. Yeah and I want you to just give me your take on it, okay? So let's starting with this. o, so let's have a look. Men or women in flip flops with office attire So office clothing but wearing flip flops No. I don't agree with that. No No, office Wear nice shoes. Okay, what if it's really hot? Fop is for the beach Fip flop for the b. Pong as well for the beach. Yeah, thongs U ye, bucket hats Oh my God Make everyone ugly though. Okay. Look at that Big apologies to Cyprersse. Yeah U Tiny sunglasses Why? Tiny sunglasses? You know What's the point? It doesn't cover your eyes. wear sunglasses to protect from the sun. Okay, these really are hot tags. Huge sunglasses Okay, not why You have a small face and you have a huge sunglasses Yeah look like a monster. So in that case you should wear tiny sunglasses Tiny mediumin su medium sunglass. Why don't we go and Try Whatever sunglasses suits you Badies Because you have ugly face we a tiny sun glve. Okay. How I going to look? Joan McNally, you were of Joanne McNally, the comedian? Yeah She says that men as a rule do not are not able to choose sunglasses that suit them a as a gender No men wear sunglasses that suit them What do you think about that? She's right Yeah, yeah Well, have I've never seen you wear sunglass. Do you wear sunglasses Ben you wear them all the time Sometimes you wear them in pitch meings John, I've not seen you in sunglasses. No, I don't wear them. I don't really wear them no. How come I've never really found a pair that suited me, actually, so maybe Joanna's right Um, hereere's a question for everybody. Have you ever worn them inside? Inside where? Shout out to the Waynees brothers Have you ever worn them inside? When I was seventeen I used to go to garage raves at Bagley's and there's pictures of me in u in sunglasses and and couple shot I didn't do that well I think I wish it was more acceptable to wear sunglasses inside. I've had I love Songloses because they cover my Ly that's fine. No what I mean is when I was growing up wearing sunglasses, I suddenly felt a little bit more confident because you, you know, that's the on it now I don't give a shit, but back there but the sunglasses, you mean B bothoth sungles. In't like in both lenenses Yeah. I didn'tar eye patch.t I'd we sunglasses and I'd be like then suddenly nobody can tell and then you feel a bit more confident And then occasionally I' go to the cllub with song glasses on It's not a good look.s like just a picture I was sweating. Yeah. I remember like, do you remember when you used to go clubbing? and then you'd buy like you'd spend a load of money on like I remember I bought this Polo Polo sport sort of pull over And it was really warm But because I spent so much money in I wore it into a club A fucking melt like this I took it off, it was like just had brown marks all where I've sweated into it You stood at the bar, absolutely fucking roasting becausecause you're desperate to let that happen though, right You'd spend all your money on like the one designer thing that you own And they have to rock it everywhere. It' so bad Anyway, sunglasses, I'd wear those again inside. I've done it before. Sometimes you go to fancy dress night and you think I could get away of sunglasses inside and if you're like an absolute D dononny But you don't wear them. Should we buy it? shouldould we get Johnon sungglasses? N. I mean nobody will ever know what it looks like in them because we're not allow to show you hideous faces. I think like it was probably from of one of my early jobs was that I worked in Promo so you' like you're talking to people all the time So you're out on the street, we were like handing stuff out for a radio station And so they one of the rules was you can't wear sunglasses because then you can't make eye contact with people, you can't actually have a proper conversation with them.. So I and that was quite formative years for me. So I think I just went, o you just don't wear sunglasses then. But you be look nice in sunglass. you know those Um What's the shape mind like the motorbike is Like an aviator. Yeah. yeahah You' look at an avator. Structures like face. Yeah Thatd look really big aviator right on your Iive onees. Thankk you specifically, Champne. Okay. say that? No, I feel obviously some people can't see John so it's look if you could describe why they would suit him because he's got I would describe John as having sort of classically Aryan Good looks Good looks, yeah. Yeah. He's got like a He's Vikingesqu, isn't he It looks like he's been up to something in a village Why do you bring these bloody things down your m have you are a droky buagger Okay, shouldould we carry on the hot takes? But John, you're a good looking guy. Ben you are too. You You know Jn I looking. Yeah. Yeah. yeah, I think that's a good idea. Hawaiian shirts, what do you think of those? I love h. Yeah. I love it. You know why? don't you? Because you love Tom Sek. He w shtts in Magnum PI all the time. I did fancy him. Yeah ye. D down D him Yeah U sunbathing in a state of undress in your local park This' a bit tripleed mind, why? Look at me I got big boops It's horrible. but' stick to the hypothetical scenario. What do you think about people sunbathing in a state of undress in your local park No You think. Okay, let's look at food or drink. Okay. Mum, what do you think of barbecues I love barbecue. overer Are you saying that I think British barbecues are overrated. However, I've watched American Barbecue showdown or whatever the fuck it's called, and that barbecue looks insane Are you allowed to watch it as a vegan? I've watched every episode of that show Why would you why do you watch it if you can't eat any of it? I just think it just look so amazing what they do. They spend like three days. there love used to love Martin Love fish When he was a baby That's why he was a pet child p so much. It's amazing how much seven eight people this f Yeah so much Iran I did that so naturally I used to love mutin Yeah Yeah Yeah, I did eat a lot of meate when I was a kid But not anymore. obviously veggie barbecue shirt. If somebody I saw it' so not depressing, that's an exaggeration Somebody said Do you like vegan barbecue?ck Do you like barbecue but you're vegan? Check this out. And they treated They' taken this thing and they treated it like they would do a piece of steak. and you know what it was Watermon. Iiced tea and coffee. I lie? Iicy and coffee. I love it. especially the hot weather coffee or ic tea and I love it. I love it. When we were filming when Ben and I were filming in America, that was when I was at my heaviest probably. Yeah. Oh yeah And I was exercising and trying to eat carefully afterfter a while because I thought I'm getting really big. Yeah. I was drinking I kept drinking iced oat milk lattes Yeah. And then I looked it up I was having about three or four of those a day They're about four hundred and fifty calories each. Oh my god. Yeah So that's we' sixteen hundred calories a day Before you've eaten a single thing And then I wondered why I was struggling to get the weight off Pims I love Pimsy. Pimps is good. It've been a big jug and I can sit there and drink anyime. Yeah anyyime. ninety nine ice creams I love them Mr. Whippy. I mean, I can't have them now, but Mr. Whippy? Oh yeah Whippy. P actually m Is there actually milk in them? Yeah. milk powder. I thought it wass just powder, ye yeah. Apparently, for every one I read this somewhere, for every one penny of milks you put in, you get ninety nine ps worth of ice cream out or a quuid's worth of ice cream Like the margin is insane. And didn't Thatcher invent Mr. Whippi Is that true? There's more air in the ice cream so that you get essentially it goes further. further. Yeah. w So she wasn't all bad Big shouts, Maggie. should you p a little liquor For Thatcher U Salads with fruit in them I love it. Yeah. what fruit do you like in a salad Uh, I like Pomegranate. Pomegranate skirs. Yeah. And sometimes I like Tiny bit of pineapple. Pineapple' nice. Yeah. Yeahah Do you know what's good in a salad, manango mango Mango' the number one fruit together. D you say agree with that? I quest mango and a salad. I have got twenty one mangoes. Yeah at home. Yeah. She's gonna to make three tons of salad. twenty one U Sad the fuck up Mangoes are quite difficult to peel, aren't they without wasting. You give it to me. I show you. I know I just get you know when me see because the manges are quite expensive as well one are phone size Cesa Mngles. Hi, Kesa Mngles Why have you got twenty one Soon after lunch, I peel one and I eat it. Yeah, and then you' got twenty left. What you Ital somebody I told to bring it here. Yeah C cut them and I didn't know that you like mankos. How long do they last for? Is' in the garage? so it will last for a long time. Letady rightripe. Let it ride. Yeah yeah. Store them Is it garage the best place to store mangoes? Of course my garage is clean. Okay, so clean garage, store your mangoes and then you can buy twenty thirty at a time This episode is brought to you by Sainsbury's. So Sainsbury's customers can save over four hundred and fifty pounds a year with a nectar app, which is a decent bit of bnts to be fair. 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I can't screen grab it unfortunately because it doesn't allow you to But he only noted yesterday a new picture Oh wow. Now. Now that is a photo of Mum when she was twenty. I was twenty. And then there's a photo there's a picture of Dines that's been dropped in and then my head It's been added to somebody's body I said to M Who is that? And she said it's you Whose body is that It's your body it's not my body, mum It's horrible, isn't it eighteen Wh whose b is it, M Is your by? Night Mk, please I don't know somebody else. Somebody else okay. So how did you do this Is the same person that did the list? No, no, no no. Shut up Did you do this yourself? Yeah There's so many of them I did on phaceo shop Do you do a site mission I'm learning my son. Yeah, not's good. Be you anything the latest gadgets you think she's fucking stupid. She won't know anything Okaykay, let's have A listen to our first voice note is anonymous mion shanty to unpack that anymous'm huge fan of your podcast. I really enjoy listening to the couplplees conundrums that come in and I have got one as well and I would like your advice please. So I think as part of grooming yourself, you should remove the build up of fluff that comes in the corners of your toenails. and I do this because it makes your feet smelly and grim. So my boyfriend, he has got a lot, a lot of this buildup in his toenails. And to be quite honest with you, his toenails look like shrek So I try and remove this for him. but he does not let me do this and I'm just trying to groom him because I think that's you know it's a nice thing for me to do. So I'd like your opinions on whether my boyfriend should just grow up and let me do this if he's right in not letting me do this Thank you very much. loveove the pard. U sorry, this is the first I'm hearing People getting builled up of fluff. in the corners of their toenails. Usually the fluff comes here, isn't it? In the belly button. Belly button. Yeah. Wh H anybody exper this fluff on the On only when I've worn brand new socks. Yeah When you wear brand new socks, sometimes when you get in the shower, you suddenly realize that you've got sock fluff on your feet, but I've not had it build up in the corner icklish That's why he's not letting her to do that. So Do you get a fluff in the corners of your toenails? No, my feet. You'd be the most likely out of the three of you that I would think you'd get it. Thank you U You're welcome Maybe she created this. So she's picking it out I don't know why your boyfriends not letting you pick it out. I don't understand. It's Ticklish tellelling Yeah, but why is he not picking it out himself?be gone? I wish I could speak to you. I wish that we could get callers him because it's a smelly fluff that accumulates in the corner of the toenails I don't know what, I'm glad anonymous that you by the way, I'm glad you said anonymous for your sake But I'm glad that you're picking the fluff out for yourself. I think your boyfriend should be picking his own fluff. Why' a child? He's a grown up man. Yeah. he's banging her so he should be Yeah Where'd you both stand on like squeezing your partner's spot? That's disgusting. People do that that? Yeah. Does Georgie do that for you? I'm actually not that spotty a person Pot. If we're gonna just make up stuff then There's no point having this conversation Would you let your partner squeeze a spot Yeah, I would. I think if it's in like a hard to read. say it's like in the middle of your back and it's painful then that's that's an act of love then But it's not like's different to going like squeeze spot of my arm. Yeah. I don't know how I feel about that I can't imagine ever asking you l. so do. I don't think so If you're in pain Still no. Do you help Lis at all with any of like beauty elements? She's got quite a spotty ass So I will s my go. donon't say that. Cut that off. Yeah. That's what I said to her. cut that off It's like a second head On your butt shake We've got another one just above the crack, like you know right at the base of the spine. Sometimes I have a chat with it U No, I'm Jaking. Do I help Lis with beauty stuff? Not really no Um No, I't. must apply sun creream. Suncream idea Yeah. Yeahah, I do apply suncream. H your wife' got a lovely ass omeone had to set. Yeah None of this is going in. Yeah, I apply suncream yeah. but that's not a se that's not a It is sexy. I don't think it is sexy. It depends how you do it if you're doing it or not. But don't do that. L, do you have sunscreen, okay? Why We will arrive at the Gapic Airpole with teeth and the eye You'd be pitch black. That's why you should put s do not wear sunrome? I do for for the darker skin. Yeah. Yeah, but everybody should be wearing sunscreen. I wear sunscreen every day of my life Everyone else does that, right I do. I do when I go to a garden. you're Ty, that's probably why. That's not why. It's because It's a healthy. They youthful. No, we should we should all be wearing SPF go. I don't I should. I'm SPF fifty every day. O day withith a matte finish if he's round Thank you. Very good U no, al day I do SPF fifty Eday Everyday day E day O day. Who says that? O day. All day or it's my birthday. U No, A day I put on sun creream. Do you put on sunam? I actually literally started doing it two weeks ago? It's great.. You should be doing it. You should be drinking and water as well. Yeah, you should be. And because keep your body cool It keeps your boody cool coconut water He doesn't listen to me M, she comes up with can I just say you come up with new thing every day? Do you know you should rub a lemon half On your Gooch It's an anti aging thing I just read about it Do You know what you do? getet some honey, mix it with an egg, add it to water Put that decant that into a vase, leave it for a weeake, pour that into a glass, drink that in the morning, get rid of any acne It's like you every week you come up with a new. of I'm trying to uc Mom's a bit faddty. She's faddy Yeah Okay, well than good luck with that tooneenail thing. sounds absolutely disgusting. Yeah. But I would say your boyfriend should be picking out his own toone off. I've never could people email in podcast at Hangabe. com If it's a known thing that you get, fluff in the corner of your tonaails. I've never heard of it ever U Drop us a comment. button. Drop a comment. the email Comment Email in with a't If you've got it, now stamar inbx. Yeahve got if you've got a photo, no we don't need photos.nd the photo. don't say comment I' do that or something. No, nice. Yeah. Email in. podcast at randomy. com With accompanying pictures. Just leave a comment. fluff. Just one word fluff If you get fluff in the comments. And no fluff. No fluff if you don't With a photo. No don't need to. Podcast that randomy. com Sendnd an email in. Okay. we've got a voice note now from how do you pronounce this? Ronya I from Finland Hello Ram and Santi. I'm trying to add a bit more internationality to the podcast. So hello from Finland. My name is Roma So my question in regards to my dad Growing up, I was very close with him. I've always shared a lot of comedy with him from SNL, Monty Python to pretty panel shows and everything in between. But as I've gotten older, I have started seeing some of his more sexist views As a kid, my dream job was to be a stand up comedian When I talked about this with him a couple years back, he said Women can't do comedy like men, their brains are wired different He also said he felt prouder as a man to be a father when my younger brother was born. And there's a ton of more examples, but I won't go into all of them When I try to debate him on his views, he gets upset, calls me emotional and says I can't take a joke So what should I do? accept that he can be a sexist prick from time to time? or should I keep trying to change his views Um also I absolutely agree that Robbish is a sex icon. He might might not have made that Swedish man blush on Taskmaster, but one Finnish woman was certainly blushing. Thank you for answering Gitos Howre you up Thank you, Rona icon You are Whatere you going what for? Yeah, you look right Yeah, you do. Yeah. I mean I'm not I'm a Jac, I'm not a sex ar Thank you Rona U Okay, Mom, this is quite a tricky one to navigate. What do you think about this thing with Rya's dad I don't know what to answer He should't say all those things. He should encourage her to Do things and come up in life. why can't she be a comedian L? What is stop why is he telling all that? I think Rona, with things like this This is not a great answer, but I'm gonna to be honest with you Some of the stuff that you said that your dad said quite offensive and I could understand why being hearing as a woman, hearing your father talk like that must be difficult actually. and I don't think you should underestimate how much that might affect you because it's like I know you' laugh off in the voice note, but it's it's pretty bad, isn't it? Women's brains are wired differently or whatever. and I feel proud of having a son or whatever and all this kind of stuff I do think with family, it's a tricky one. I think you've given us two options as to what you should do and I think you should do both of them So the first thing he said was except that he's a sexist prick. I do think when your family behavave a certain way, you can deal with it a lot better by accepting that's how they're going to behave or just You know, if you expect different behavior to what your family exhibit, it only leads to frustration. If you know that your dad is going to say things like this And you've kind of made your peace with it. It makes it a lot easier to interact with him. it might not lead to resentment. Similarly, but at the same time, I think you should be looking to kind of change hisis views, if you can And remember that he does love you. He's saying this stuff and whatever, but he really you know, I'm sure he really does love you So it's a thing of accepting that he'll say these things. You know men can be a nightmare, and particularly men of an older generation, their views on gender You know, it can be tricky to navigate. But I think it's a combination of acceptance and sort of gradually trying to get your dad Dad's way of thinking around to yours. What do you think, Mum Pper advice but She's not living with him D not? No depends on her age. I mean she would have moved out. Why do you won't listen to his advice She's pulling her down. Yeah Do what you want to do And make sure you keep the relationship with them later on when you become famous Okay really appreciate all that. Yeah. goodood luck, Ronny with the comedy career. Yeah ye yeah Um Do you think she should confront her dad? No Parents, they do say all sorts of things. I don't know. I must have upset you saying things. I can't think of a timeerm. No, I encouraged you. so don't take it seriously and maybe that's the way he's his opinion that is respect that and you do what you want to do. Good luck Rona. That is a difficult situation and I hope it works so well. Please do keep in touch Podcast at rangabe. com. You can also use podcasts at rangabe. com if you want to send any photos for your justailails, just comment just a comment just cloged with fluff or anything like that anything. O if you've got any other proies. likeike su any super disgusting stuff Podcast at rangabee. com please. That's it, that's all we've got time for M.. Thank you so much for your emails and messages. We'll be back on Monday with another exciting guest Don't miss it. and if you haven't already, please give it a like and subscribe wherever you get your podcast. It could be Instagram couldouldn't it could be TikTo, TikTok Facebook Facebook Sap chat I don't know about thatnap. I don't know I don't know if yeah, I don't know if we're on Snapchat But we are definitely on Instagram, Facebook and TikTok So subscribe, like and subscribe there please. 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