Public Perception and Festival Backlash

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You listen to the Joe Buddha . You told me when you were on our podcast about Joe Budden, just be like saying like fucking off every other rapper at the start of every podcasting . Like fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you. Good luck to the other podcast trying to keep up with us. Like all that is fucking what he does. Fuck me off menu podcasts. Yeah, yes, yeah. No, yeah, fucked. I tried. I tried. But it's awesome fuck the cup. You actually remember the fucking demographics. It's like the straight white guys that have been on off menu are like Steve Cogan, Robert Deniro. Yeah, it's like what the fuck are we I'm trying to figure have they had anyone They haven't even had like Josh Pew have they? He's like the palatable straight white guy fuck he's fucked I didn't blind. I was gonna say fucked He's fucked . No, he's yeah, he's fine. Oh yeah, he is he is I mean like he's a blind like international athlete. He's yeah exactly he can go on as a footballer but this is my point is like I, don't know if it's like oh yeah, he's got physical disability. What a wander left foot . I don't know if we need to give Josh that much. Ever hug Josh Pew and you just go he is the back it's like a mirrorling. It's unbelievable. Yeah, yeah. He always like, he's quite baggy clothes, but then you just go fuck off. I'd be wearing vests a lot more if I was young. But he's also got like the hot rod haircut to kind of kind of like a reference I love hot rod. That's hot rod. No. It's sort of in that world of like super bad zoolanders like it was of that but it's a guy who wants to be a daredevil. Yeah. Is it Andy Samber? Yeah, yeah. Wants to be a he's got like tight curl hair. But it's that very specific kind of seventies kind of long kind of a fringe like okay. My wheelhouse. I don't know what Josh would have asked for if not the hot rod. A hot rod head. Just a picture of the dead Is that your next hair adventure a perm? You could perme? Yeah. Thinking now that when it comes from you can do a sponk on hot rod for you. I might go long, I might go long hair. Yeah. And I've always had a face that's, I don't think I do anymore, but I used to have a face that was too feminine for long hair. Because I had long hair as a boy and everyone did just think I was a girl. Like I got that a lot . I have beautiful eyes and it's a problem. Yes . He's got her at first. He's got I mean, I like I was medisgender a lot as a boy. Yeah. They don't talk about how difficult it was for you coming up as a comedian with eyes that beautiful, do they? I would say they're beautiful eyes. I get to go to towns up and down the country where they've laughed at your feminine eyes. I I would would say say that was that's actually anytime I do like a sort of out of town out of London gig where it's a slightly older audience. All I fucking get after the gig is old women going you have lovely eyes Did you sum her up and like this wow, that just provokes something of me? Did this ever happen to you when you were growing up? It was a common thing when I was a kid that if your mum introduced you to a mate of your mum's or someone like a middle aged lady, it would be a common thing for them to be like, Oh if I was a few years younger. Did you ever get that? Upwards or upwards. Like, yeah, it's like you're either your mum, your mum's friend would kind of hint she wants to fuck you. Yeah, a big town. Or if you were, I guess a good looking kid would h.int They that you're gonna fuck other people. Yeah. He's gonna break your arts . The modern equivalent of that is gonna he's gonna go summon in it. He's gonna be fucking mad girl. I wouldn't fucking your son, Joanna . What a beautiful boy and if I don't, he's gonna fuck someone else . If I can't get me ninjin there, he's gonna be going for arm steven s. Not to be so hacked, but like imagine people like your uncle saying that to a teenage girl. You may be right fucking slag when she's older. I was a few years younger I was a few years . Oh , she's gonna give some erections when she gets old . She's gonna have a serious amount of abortions . I knew you before facial hair before you had the facial hair. Yeah, yeah. This is a grown eye out. You were kind of boyfaced. What's the word describe that? Like young pyrubic face are gonna solar scarf. I was kind of baby face and yeah, I've got long eyelashes so I used to get the eye thing but it depends who you're talking to. Like my women will say you've got nice eyelashes or I wish I had eyelashes like yours. Oh god, imagine if eyelashes like him or like being babyfated like you've got nice skin. Right. I remember my mate big Dave, different demographic when I was growing up. Someone a girl goes, yeah, he's got nice eyes, hasn't he like referring to my eyelashes and he went, he's got the watery eyes of a gay. That's how he described my eye The watery eyes did it, what do you mean guys? You look like you're about to cry Casting. Why do you think that the wateriness of your eyes is detracted? Because you've got very dry hands, haven't you? mean that's where the hydration. I wonder whether you've mishydrated your body. My hands give the impression that I live a much harder life than I actually did. Yeah, you go there grizzled. I'm very stressed at the minute mine's sort of peeling off a little bit, but I'm generally a soft handed amount. You're a handy guy because I Vittorio got his haircut in the barber shop that I'm associated with recently and you were recognized in there not for comedy but for your percussion skills. Yeah. Wow . I was tough. It's just somebody who went to the like youth department of the music college that I went . So I was like working there and I just knew him and this guy Zach who's like a trumpet player. That's like oh yeah percussion is the fucking of the barber is like, what the fuck is a fucking podcast? That's not everyone. We choose some respect for it. Fuck shit. I think they heard around July and they went here we go. They're gonna know they're gonna know for a podcast. It's like I know it's like, Oh, the famous Xylophone . Can I just say your rendition in that piece we did was absolutely stunning. Shut up, shout noise at him or fuck off . Give him his credit. Looking very well Victoria, you're looking very trim. Thank you last tournament of stone. Did you? Yeah, yeah in about six months. You know the personal trainer that we ignored? Yeah. He listened to me. He listened to me. That's what it's on offer. Yeah, yeah. His hands are appealing to fuck. But other than that, he's alright. Yeah, that's mental health. I need a personal trainer from a mental health. Yeah. I need somebody telling me. Was that your sign of mental stress? Your hands start going. Yeah, just the skin padersd off like these bits. Wow. But it's fine. If you had to play the xlophone now you'd be fucked as well. Yeah, well cymbals would certainly be an issue . That kind of stuff, but two and a half stone, that is quality. It's a shit and every lot of it's a frustrating time to have done that. Big Ozempic accusations flying around . But that's great reflection on your career, I think, because they're saying you're someone of a statue that would have access to and need for a Zempix. That's gonna be like on the NHS like they were going to give like the pros are gonna get on people without podcasts. Manjaro. Manjaro. Yeah, they're Manjaro. There's a politician who's trying to put a like a billy 's lines.. Yeah, that's streeting It's street. Yeah, I mean, I can get it on telegram. If anyone needs a zempical major, I can get on telegram. Absolutely rocket field. Quite six. ten hours, tenzen ficil never shed so much in your face . Well, I don't do just shit loads or what? No, apparently the ozempic is just like it stops the impulses. Apparently if you're a gambling addict and you take Ozempic, is it? You could do it for anything. You can use it for anything. It's a wonder drug. You could use it for anything. Anything that you have like an impulse for a craving for your little button that you press that makes you feel good , it can fix you. I honestly think I would be much less sort of productive as a comedian because I think the craving I have to say it's switch off the constant need for validation but you wouldn't have to fucking see it and go for a bit yeah I'd stop going to the top secret comedy club where I've caught COVID three times I stopped going to Makin Istanbul to get your head stapled I don't know I don't know what I would take it for but I would love I would love to give it a go. It'd be amazing 'cause I think it would reveal to you what your impulses are. Do you know what I mean? If it's like you're not feeling it for food. It's like the mirror of Arisette and Harry Potter. What is your desire most? Yeah, what is it? If me and you just stop chatting to each other healthy and fun. Putting Jacob Hawley in front of the Harry Potter Mirror Man, what is going to be looking back on the other side ? It's a load of monkeys with symbols. Yeah, that's quality . That's nice. I like that. So you're okay, as Empig accusations, you've come on specifically to scotch those accusations. Yeah, squashing the allegations . This has all been done the real way. Yeah, it's all been done Zack Southall's proprietary calories . But I did in such when I eat like and like manage my calories I do in such a psycho way where it's like one chicken breast for breakfast, one chicken breast for lunch and a five guys for dinner.. Yeah. Wow As long as it adds up to the number I'm looking for. I'm happy. I would often get like a really naughty like takeaway on the way home from a gig. Yeah , but then just starve myself for a bit longer the next than day. Yeah. And I did a food podcast. I won't name the comedian but she had a food podcast. And like nice comedian who I've gotten with years, I've never listened to a podcast. Right, do you want to come on? Yes, sweet. I didn't realize it was a podcast. It was all about like you, don't need to feel guilty about eating. This is a safe space where there's no time. It's a sneaky mental health podcast pest meat. This is it. I didn't know have the balls. I didn't know. Yeah. And then so I recorded it and she and I was like, yeah, intimate and fasting, bars. And she was like, really? And I was like, yeah, yeah, eats the trip of eating, darling, right? If you ever get hungry, wear the fuck you want and just starve yourself a couple of days later because we know it feels good to be skinny, don't we? And I didn't realize that's just the tone in which I do pook up . And she was like , she didn't say, but she was like, yeah great pod today. Have a listen back. Let me know if there's anything you want clipped. I listened back. She had to do a trigger warning before I went on being like he says some quite toxic things about eating habits. I think he's joking , but do know that if you need support or if you want no . Yeah, you wouldn't be able to do the five guys method on that podcast. Yeah. It's true. If it adds up to eight oneeen thousand hundred cows . There's no cheating. It doesn't matter what the fuck it is. Calories are calories. If you move more than you fucking eat, you lose a bit of weight. If you want to eat all the trash in the fucking world and you're happy to starve yourself for three days, I say, why not attach a ca touse it? Really? Right. I might start claiming the reason I haven't eaten for two days is not because I had a fucking crystal kebab on Holloway Road the night before. It's no I'm protesting the sign of Jonny Madawaki. Yeah, I'm trying to do good in the world. The Chinese occupation of Tibet is really getting on your nerves. Did you see the woman in Ireland who did a hunger strike for Gaza recently and it was like a week ? And it was like so did she ? Like it wasn't like I mean fair play for trying to do something for a good cause or whatever but she was like it was starting to affect my mental health and it's like yeah yeah yeah challenge Yeah. . Dreck Bobby Sans was having the time of his life. He wrote some pretty sad poems during our period. Have a look at those poems. It's like you get to November and you know other people in the year they've done marathons, they've done all sorts of really put themselves through it. Do you know what I'm gonna do? Be really bright for men's mental health. I'm gonna grow a mistache. That's why I'm fucking this anyway. That's why it's not it was on November tax. It was in November. You can just try it and then it's my girlfriend loves the mastache. I don't really fucking care. Yeah, nice. I sort of like now I'm like used to it so it would be weird. Like when I see a picture of me without it, I'm like, oh, that's weird. Oh, you've had it for that long list. . But it's entirely my girlfriend being very pro moustache. I think how would you perform the embarrassing climb down of having to stop the hunger strike after a week? She had a watermelon, which was still like Palestini. She was like my gosh, they should food, Jacob having a Tibetan curry after two days. Forty eight hours. I'm enjoying these momos but only because it helps the people . Right. We better do a podcast at some point. We do it. We're talking about a guy who , I mean, you've met crucially. Yeah I think he could . I think I met him. I don't know if he met me. Does that make sense? You were behind a camera . He was on another planet. Yeah, he's in a different room. Yeah, six joints in the time you're horrifying for a thing. Should we do a cut on cut off? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We can we are talking about the wonderful world of Mr M. R. O. get on this . He's a funny cunt. Like that's the thing, nicest guy ever . Like honestly, so many times when doing Finn versus the Internet for people that I'm like there every episode of co creator of Finn versus the Internet and he was funny as fuck . So he shows up and he's already had a spliff like when he wakes and just gets high. He's a waking baby. He's never not high. Okay , he's always just on the fucking moon and he shows up and he's just like I'm not I'm not a like very like star struck person . I don't think right, but it was so crazy and it often is because you spend like weeks looking at this person writing film versus the internet and like figuring out what they're doing and watching all the videos and shit. And then but for the first time, this guy walks in and I'm just like , it's just so crazy that you're crazy. This is a remarkable man. It's like it's an unbelievable man. It's not even like meeting it 's like meeting a Pokemon. Like it's he's so he's he's so stiff hit the bell y. It's like meeting an alien. You know what I mean? It's like, oh my god, it's real. You know what I mean? Like what's going on here? I've seen it on camera, but he's actually like that . You know, that would be amazing. Yeah. I'm glad to hear that he's kind of he's living up to the character as well. He's not Yeah . And he's like hello, I'm Terran so that would be shit. That would be shit. If he was kent until the camera turned on and then he was king ston. You would be rubbing it. If he was a Pokemon we called Charmander . Charmandem. Maybe Mandema Mandem I'll say Charm Mandem . So you obviously research I mean I've watched most of University Internet. It's obviously like one of the best shows I think has been made like TV internet, whatever, but like M dot R iddy like you led that series with him, right? He was the first from that late was yeah I assume that decision was made in the edit when you were like this is the best one we got in the can . We yeah and he was the perfect balance of I think for Finn versus the Internet they need to either be switched on or not have a clue but we have energy like it's one or the other if they sort of have a clue and like orbit aggie about stuff that they don't understand , then that's really tricky. Or if they're Ellbrook who had no idea what was happening didn't understand any joke that we made at any point and was just trying to like make Finn uncomfortable by flirting with him and like Finn's just Teflon. Right. Yeah. Like you can't get him . He's never uncomfortable ever Oh, I'd like that. And he was like, shut up . Fuckin' like you . But he can do that because he can kind of like, he's like, yeah, I guess I'm in character. That's me like it's a like he's a half side step away from himself himself the whole time. It's cool. When you like, yeah, he's effectively like, I'm actually not gonna buy into any of the conventions of social interaction here. Like you can't get him where she's like, Oh, if I say this, you have to say this and he's like, No, I fucking don't. That's great. It's my show, I'll do whatever fuck. If I want to save myself from the edit, I might that's an interesting thing you say that because one of the reflections I had when I was watching it is like, how do you come across well in this forum? You know what I mean? And I think like I remember Jack Mate came across pretty well. I thought Chris Williamson came across really well absolutely . And I think it is you just have to go in and be like , I've got no control of this situation whatsoever. I have to entirely surrender all control and just laugh. I think the arc comes across really well. Yeah, but that's because he doesn't have a fucking clue. I think there's bits where he kind of does come across and I think I think at some point he kind of gets the game a bit . He also sticks up for himself enough that he's not being completely trampled. You know, the top draw boys, they know, they took their pegging like good private school boys did . When was there was like this is fucking this is out of order, right? And it's like yeah fair enough okay you know Did you want to come across as too subservient either I don't know exactly he think you know Rusta Farrow surrender Rusta Farrow no he stood up for himself for point s. It's just great to hear that live but yeah but also you got him good but it's it's how could like you could put him on anything? Like obviously I think you're an unbelievable comedian Aziz Erisha As Finn, you got a great show. You could skewer at anyone, right? But like you, like if Ember Ard just did the one show , it's impossible for it not to he just knows it's not if people say like to do well on like TV and shows like that and like on panel stuff. You need to know who you are . I think you just need to know like the name of you. Yeah. So aggressively aware of the meme of him and doesn't push back against him . He's like steering into the skid at all times where it's just like, oh, you think I'm this mad? He knows. I'm from Colorado that and the most he showed up in a fucking like mad like rasa tracksuit thing that had so much green on it and we were like, this is a green screen . It will look like you've got you told him that as well. We can't you have to change. Had you said to him, you can't wear green. Of course , of course, because it's a green room. The whole room is green. There's nothing we can do . And it's like he's like, he's like done like media stuff but like ten years. You know, I mean, he hasn't just like I know he kind of like rose to prominence last year, but like he had been around for a while seeing the green screen. There's one thing you can say about M. R. He's been around, man. Yeah, don't worry about that. He's about forty, isn't it? He's not young. Yeah, he was older. I can't remember the exact age he said when he came in, but he was certainly older than I was expecting him to say that he was and it's a crazy it's crazy age to have corn rose. Any age of a white guy to have cornrose as crazy? Yeah, I was gonna say forties, mat. Forties. Cornrose no mortgage, that's bad . Yeah , yeah. I would say that correlation white guys with any kind of braid or dreadlock and mort gage rate. I'd say there's not many of them. Do you know diagrams? Two circles. So separate circles and they're like forty five kilometers between the two as that. There's not even a sliver of yeah. If you are a white guy with cornrows, or I think I'd throw dreadlocks into that mix as well actually. Yeah. Yeah, a big time. Any fact or if you've got a landlord. Yeah, you can and I'd say your relationship with them isn't great. It's so funny. You're so out of the establishment, but you're so under the thumb of the establishment. Yeah, yeah. You're propping up landlords all over the world. Yeah . She watched a clip. She watches a bit of this clip the first clip we saw in case anyone hasn't seen. So this is M. R on his appearance on Finn Versus the Internet. Shut . Sorry? Get in one butt shut. What part of Jamaica are you from? I'm from here. I'm from You're from the UK. Yeah, I'm originally born in Kent and I grew up in Lewisham, South London. You're a struggling musician and then you have you have the stroke and you wake up speaking like this. Yeah. For many people that's changed their life, but you sort of leant into it and you woke up, you started you started speaking like this, you look down your dicks huge and you can't remember you've got kids you're going on did you make it ? And so you sort of leant into it. Management, what's that mean? You sort of manage it. Obviously you're from the island of Sheppard but still from but you know, that woman from Devon who woke up speaking Chinese, she just had, you know, a local news feature and that was it. You've got twenty million streams on Spotify I think they, like you say, the kind of the first two years there when Finn's going like oh you had a stroke and you woke up he's going yeah and he doesn't know he's not yet quite cottoned on to the joke . I think it's about four years in that he realizes he's being done. then And hes shout management. He has a manager in the room, but it is his mate. Just a guy from Cheppe , who's just like smoking a joint. Like he's out on the terrace and also we sort of deliberately like there was there's a funny moment in the episode where he tries to leave a walk off he tries to walk off, but we put all the cameras in such a way that there was no way out. So he just sort of fucking sat back down . He's like fine keeping mean to me. I don't know whatever do they worry word DID I don't want to say feel sorry for him because it feels patronizing right. He is really funny in it. Yeah . And what like have you ever tried to do anything while stoned? Have you ever tried to write an email? I've said this before like write an invoice but complete admin clean up your room while stoned. You know what I mean? I've had to do that in the past and it's like, imagine responsible of a client of yours who is being fucking killed . You cannot escape a TV set. And you're there stoned to feel likeing you have to do something like that and like your brain would be fucking he didn't feel like I was gonna say he's on the veranda by the time. He was fully just like chilling . Absolutely just you know in the parlance of like the rap game there's like there's like the rapper and then there's like the weed carrier friend who's just there to like get done by the police if they accidentally get caught or whatever in that relationship like who's the weed carrier for them? Yeah is he it felt like he was less of a manager more of a weed cat. Right? He's more of a guy. Yeah, sort of a fixer . Well, this is what's weird in music is they all have these managers that are just like their pals. Yeah . The manager's not a real job. Right. It doesn't have a job description. It's just an overarching view of strategy broadly. 'Cause the problem with music and it's sort of entering into comedy is everyone's trying to fuck you at every single turn. Yeah, this just doesn't seem to be a common theme from people that I talk to everyone and everyone's got the big dildo out and they're looking for somewhere to ram it, right? Absolutely. So you just need your stoned man to be like, oh yeah, I'd also say like nowadays like the margins aren't wide enough for like most musicians to be able to really afford to pay a manager properly right. You know what I mean? Touring is so expensive for a touring musician now. No one buys CDs like, you know, fucking Kate and Ash is doing only fans. Lily Allen's got foot content and a podcast. And it's okay with these matters of the various ladies doing Only Fans content. I don't watch porn, but I've been made aware of this like as we were describing at then, I was like, yeah , how much of like , you know, M. R's manager is smoking weird is like, how much weed can you afford on fifteen percent of M. R. just because Like where are the earnings? And this is where I feel sorry for him because he's like, I think he was great on that And you forget that was like at the end of last year. He was massive then. I mean, Jordan, Jordan, like it was funny because it was Christmas. He came up at Christmas. Yes. Do you want to show the video that I sent you with me and my son? So yeah, and the art like it was it was like a kind of second wave of fame . I remember him going viral years ago and he was a meme. It was like, you know, when you tried, you know, jerk chicken for the first time . It was all like Jamie Oliver's Jerk Race. That's it. Yeah Then this was like his second and it was that song . was It turn red. Yeah . And like unironically, I got so into it. You were listening as a fan. Mate, I was putting it on every morning while I was making breakfast. Do you think there's anyone who heard the song before they saw the man and didn't realize and they just it's a guy from the Isle of Sheppy . We're really into it. There's a fantastic new regae artist now . Authentic as they come. My dad I,'ve said this before my, dad has a similar thing with, you know, the scissor sisters. Yes. He might like it was ladies. He thought it were black ladies, yeah. That's what he likes. Like genuinely my dad like he's mainly Prog Rock but I think he sort of likes a bit Diana Ross, you know , he was growing up in that time he was like, I don't even heard they called the scissors sisters to be fair to them, right? it's all there. My dad genuinely bought the album and he was like, she's so soulful. She's like Diana Ross. And I just remember there were like they were like the TV or Topp . I was like, and he was like, I don't know who this is doing a cis . I was like, No, this is the cis . He's going on Exactly My dad's brain just breaking up what? But maybe that happened with them . This is how big that song got. I was unironically into it to the point that someone filmed this on Christmas Day . This is me my then ten month old song son bopping along to bit of them. You ready? Exclusively on Disney plus. Riddy second s, baby. The multi award win series The Bear is back for its final season. The restaurant is flooded . And it's the last chance. I am selling the building. To save it all. We have each other and nothing left to lose . FX is the bay. Everything's either going to be okay not. Final season streaming june twenty sixth exclusively on Disney plus. eighteen plus subscription required TS supply Gymnastic. Now we boost the day. That's the first song my son ever listened to you can't do that. Most kids get the wheels on the bus. He gets the pussy . The dog goes back. The pussy turns dead . The jaddy fuck pussy I'm a pussy dead? Pussy's pregnant again. complex on him. I worry that this is going to be like the origin story for the next M dot R. Like this is this is maybe what happened to M dot R as a kid is grew up in a household where they were listening to that kind of music and surprisingly he just became Scott Hawley. Yeah. Is ot Hawley on the on the track. Yeah . My son in twenty years tired. Like did he mean I he got into a bit in the episode, but did he say anything more about the kind of like the Rachel Dollarsole aspect of it all where he kind of like he admires the culture so much. He just loves it. Just loves it so much. And they kind of welcomed him as well, haven't they? Yeah, people like are on board. I always laugh at this sort of cultural appropriation accusation . If you've seen the guy that dresses up in like the most horrific caricature of Mexican people like you've ever seen is like he's wearing a full colorful poncho mustache sombrero . And it goes around LA with like a little guitar. Right. Do you think my accent is offensive? Do you think my outfit is offensive? And all these white people in LA are like, yeah, I just don't think you should be wearing that. You're not respecting the girl . Then he was to Mexico City and they're all like, yeah ! Fuckin' this guy so cool ! And they all look as it didn't they all look like that 's amazing. We didn't have to say last week about Geiz in Ohio , a skinny like American kid who for some reason has just got really into scouts culture. Like out of nowhere, found it on TikTok. And like everyone else in Ohio will be like, What the fuck you did? Every scout person on TikTok is like fucking boss slapping on weather like you would like you than his bin purple and shit like this kid is like he's gonna go that far. Calling people from Kansas Wolf. Yeah. He is. He calls people Trava. Like, I'm a fucking charva, man. Like yeah, you're you're an interesting person to talk to you about this because you're a multicultural man. I'm a multicultural man from Northern Ireland you're I would say I like'm sort of a multinationality man, but I don't think I don't think culture is no plant Their culture is no fun . But I'm not like culturally Italian fucking at all. Like you know, there',s like weird stuff I grew up with, but it's not right. Like there's just the odd cultural event that we went to that was like, oh , everybody didn't do that. Like they called Labafana, have you ever heard of Labifana? So it's the Italian and not like everywhere everywhere around the world now just has Santa. Yes. But it used to be a bit more fun where like, you know, the German one that like steals kids cramps or whatever from Holland Fratte Pete. Frat a Yeah, they still dress up as that too . And he's called Black Pate I don't all would love that. Have you not seen the Black Face Netherlands people? You know, seen that. There's also like Dutch football fans recently dressing up as rude hulls at the game. They're Dutch ed pretty fast and loose. Yeah, that stuff. Yeah, yeah, there yeah. There's and I don't think it's like with the Mexican fellow going to a Mexico City. I don't think if those lads went to went to Kingston were like, hey, what do you think do you like? that I don't think different reaction idea . So you had an Italian one. You had a labor? Labifana. So basically the story is that when the three wise men were looking for Jesus in Bethlehem, like following the star because I don't know if you've ever tried to find a stable that's underneath a star. It's a pretty broad fucking point on a map . You're like, are we under this? It's like trying to find somebody at a festival. You're like, you share it was fucking taco stand. Delay four . That speaker says delay four, and I've forgotten to the bar. Just because another speaker says delay four come to the bar By the toilet, by the way, it's just the grass, man. By the entrance. Which one There's a big flag. I'm under the big flag. I'm under the Palestine flag . I'm holding up and I'm under the Palestine flag under the Palestine flag at kneecap. Fox six . I remember I got a guy tried to fight me on Sir Patrick's Day once at the SU when I was at Uni. And it was like he kept giving me really dirty looks on the dance floor and I sort of went up to him and I was like, Hey man, like have I done something right. Have I done something to you? And he like',s You know what you did? And I was like, Why do I like I truly don't? I really can't explain to her much. I don't know what I've done here. And he was like, man, it's just rude. If somebody buys your drink, you need to buy them a drink back. And I was like, okay, you've definitely got the wrong person because I'm playing in the band tonight. So I'm not buying any drinks and I'm not being bought any drinks. I just get drinks . I was part of this. And he was like, Nah, man, my brother bought you a drink and you were just really fucking rude about it. And I was like, Again, nobody's bought me a drink all night and he was like, nah, I said it was the guy in the Ireland football top. And I was like, It's Saint Patrick's Day . Every count in here is in an Ireland top. I'll fucking kill you Probably all the Opal one as well, right? Yeah the really nice one. Exactly. That's fucking incredible. I mean , if that had been this summer, I honestly would have believed it was Paul Mescal because he's at every social event going wearing a fucking shirt. Man the fucking that Finsby Park kneecap fountains gig, I was looking through my collection of like Celtic and Or Ireland Tops being like there's gonna be a million of them Yeah which was for fuck sake so I ended up wearing that art of football Guiness like football shirt. Because it's less like grain or whatever. Hundreds of them . Hundreds of them. I was so fucked off. I was so but then every other shirt that I had an option of there was a million there was a million dollars as well. The Bohemian's one with the Guinness sponsor as well. There must have been a few. Bollyians. Yeah, there was one that I had, like it's a new ish Celtic third kit . Like a mint green with like a hologram logo type thing that nobody else was wearing. I was like, fuck that was n't the option. That was an option. Foxing. You didn't go, did you? I didn't go no fuck. I went in my Israel shirt, no one else was wearing it. I was fine . You could have been used as a place to meet then. I'm standing next to the gangly cop with watery gay eyes of an isra . Look, there was a bit I was talking about when I was mistakenly on politics joe , which is a good laugh actually they're a good laugh. It is a good laugh. You just never read the comments. It's a good laugh. You get your hundred and forty quid six months later. You just don't read the comments anyway. Oh no. I was talking about at one of the Palest protests, there was basically as there always is, like, a few people like filter in and then suddenly whip out a massive Israel flag and everything fuck sick what like come on and they basically got like taken out of the march and like put on a bus and like shepherded away. And they were like, this is disgraceful we have a right to counter protest. And the guy from the Met Police was like, look, it's just for everybody's safety. If there was a huge arsenal parade and people showed up and started waving like a spurs flag . They would of course be like pulled out of that so they don't get killed. And I was like, That's such a good point. I maybe wouldn't have used spurs I'm just thinking of a cultural institution off the top of my head a football club. I don't know. You're in Golden's Green and you know big fans of Rubens Deli. Have you become aware of the number three ten bus ? It's such a thrill. My girlfriend Thornson Dani goes, there's this new bus that's really helpful when I'm getting from here to here like it's really good three hundred ten. I was like, that's sick. And she was like, this is weird . There's a lot of Jewish people on the on the bus. And I was like, well, how do you know? And she's like with her like Orthodox. Right. Jewish people on the bus. And I was like, well, where 's the bus? So I like Goog led where it goes to and from and it goes from Golders Green to Stanford now . And I was like, well, yeah, that's the Jews that's the Jew bus . And then like we sort of like were jokingly calling it the Jew bus you probably shouldn't call it this . Google did again. Sadiq Kan had announced to help the safety due to the rise of antisemitism. They put on a new bus route, the three hundred and ten so that they could commute safely between the two biggest Jewish communities in London. It is a Jew bus. Wow, that's amazing. Like a government prescribed Jew bus. It's unbelievable. We should get like an Irish bus that goes from like Kilburn to Beth Mogrand Road I joke about the Israel shirt thing. I do it's obviously such a difficult thing to talk about on a comedy podcast where we're trying to discuss MR, but we're trying to talk about seriously. We had a thing at my daughter's school where they did and this was like when it's heartbreaking, but I do think that like a lot of like Gaza and Palestinians are almost fallen out of the news a little bit . And I think it's understandable that people have a kind of a kind of almost trauma fatigue. It's a compassion fatigue thing. The media has a responsibility to continue reporting when she like three years into World War Two, they're like, yes Yeah. Jesse Owens is doing so well Fred Harry' wsin gonna wim bledon again? Yeah. Like when it was like at its hottest, when it was like, you know, Gaza was really in the news and it was like fucking hour something has to be done, right? My daughter's school had international day . Right. And basically down our and it like I don't it's hardening to discuss in this climate, but like I think you have to be careful that there's there's an awful lot of Israeli people who are not in favor of what the idea is not in favor Matt Universe like our protests have been arrested. Yeah. I think you have to be careful about like, I think you can absolutely be anti the IDF anti Netanyahu, anti the Israeli government, but also conscious that Israeli people, so many of them are not . And in the same way that like as British people, like we weren't in favor of a lot of what we did in the Middle East during most of the Nauties, you know, and we're not in favor of our current government currently like funding it or providing weapons for like what? I do think there is a thing about like nationalism where you do have to be conscious of what your country currently stands for, specifically their government when you're displaying your nationalism. We had a thing like during the Black Lives Matter movement where my mate Cain , like I think you've met Caine, lovely guy. And we would go into a Black Lives Matter protest and he was like, I'm going to wear an English shirt. And I was like, oh dude, I don't know. He was like, No, he was like, we have to show that a part of our national pride is being multiculturalism, multicultural. Yeah, yeah. And like, people from other cultures have to see this shirt as being an ally to them. Like fascists don't own England shirts. They don't mean England . And I was like, I completely agree with you, Kane, but you were a bald man with the word riot tattooed on your head. You have to be a little bit careful. And I genuinely on the day , I had a thing where I borrowed like a fucking proper like nice stone island off one of my neighbors and I didn't realize this kind like statue protector stuff was happening. And genuinely I was meeting my mate Matt there. His phone was dying, and I was like, Where do you want to meet? And we didn't know the statue thing was happening. He was like, Nelson Mandela statue by Trafalgar Square. Let's meet there. I turned up there at a stone line . Painted. Ryan , welcome then arm around the door. You have to be conscious of how you describe and like, so similarly , there was an international day at my daughter's school and like the school have to be like , yeah, all of you know, we're in North London in the world any country in the world, but you kind of think like, but some of them will be quieter than others . Fucking stall Israel flag pumping out the music through a bluetooth speaker and you like I don't know, you just sort of like it's a lot Did they have a Russian one? That's always the gression. Did they have a Russian one? That's true. There aren't loads of Russians in North London . Truly, when they were having a transplant. They own those property there. They just don't fucking limit it. I don't know anything about those countries. Every visiting Salisbury, yeah. So you could have staffed the Russian store with your hair looking like that. I know. I mean, yeah, I mean, again, right now, I have to be very careful of what shirts I wear. Like I did not look like I did not look like an ally with a fade that is what were the kids required to do on the day were they required to dress up? It's like the idea is everyone just sort of goes and like represents their kind of Yeah, do you know what I mean? You're pressure off the Dutch lads in blackface for a bit. , straight in. It's actually like a really nice thing . It's it does , I guess, you know , as son of an Irish woman going out of a very quiet British man as my parents are , it does make you think like I am a culturalless person. What is my culture . What like I guess you know ? And it's so I look at you as someone who is proudly Irish and and when like, you know, like it's a sport that Italy are good at very proudly Italian. When it's about food, then you are you're in Italian guy. When the rugby's on, I'm Irish. Yeah. When the football's on, depending on the year, I'm Ital Italian. You'reian. Yeah, and if that's not easy to follow, I don't know what is. But I look at M. R and I go, you know what, mate, like when your culture is as vacuous as it must be as a man from the Isle of Shepherd like who grew up in multicultural Lewisham looking around at all these people, all their flags, all their culture. Like, fair enough for just fucking grabbing one. I agree. And but I and as you as we say, appreciating, apologize rather than appropriating. Yes, appreciate yourself. But I will say What I do think though is Irishness particularly is something that people like to claim, right? No, there's very trendy. Yeah. And then post Brexit, there was all like everybody now in an Irish past. Exactly. Yeah, my everyone in my French group. People get very angry at me if I say like , Oh, you're not really Irish, if they're like English or whatever. And it's only like messing or like it's fine. Yeah, yeah. I get people that like I have cousins who are two Irish parents but grew up in England and it's just like they're getting shit as well. Yeah, they're getting shit from all sides basically and it's not Irish enough. Don't make it a horse does it. Wow. I don't know what that means. I honestly don't know what that means. I heard it. Constantine Gesson doesn't say they can . Oh no that is the other way around, isn't it? I genuinely got that completely wrong. What ? No, you got it right. You got the phrase right? No, no, you got the rich phrase I thought that was a nice phrase I thought no it's not you are something yet something that Constantine Kissing would say about Rahim Sterling or something like that Nobody had somebody on who was like, Oh yes , like he said she's racist soon acts British. Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah. He was like , No, he's not. And it's like, what? Are you doing this? Yeah, the other guy are you actually doing this? The other guy was like one of the editors of the spectator, I think . Right? We pay one of him. He's like, I mean, he's the fucking prime minister of the United States of bad. What do you want? What do you want to fucking do? He grew up in Hampshire. He speaks like the poshiest country you ever met. And he's literally the prime minister of the UK. How much more do you want Rushi to do? Yeah, I know man. I think that was there was just enough people being like Constantine kissing to shit himself live on TV to be like for me to be like, Oh okay. But the other part of me is like that he even felt emboldened enough to just be like yeah I've just got to do some ethno nationalism on the podcast. That is fucking scary shit man. That is mad. When I used that phrase, genuinely didn't know what it meant and I was thinking about dogs and horses while I was a democratic one I've actually used heard that phrase used out loud is it Jack Wilshire dropped it. Why? Yeah . They in an interview about who? Mikel Arteta because Michel Arta had lived in England long enough. You know, like every now and then a footballer is in the United Kingdom long enough they can get an English passport. Right. So there was a thing where they were like, what do you think of Arta playing for playing for the England team? And he was like, if it talks bought in a bar, it doesn't make it wow. Also nobody's claiming that Mekel Arta was fucking born in England . Yeah, it just doesn't apply Jack Wilshire there, central midfielder and Britain front candidate for Steven That is my problem. When a Stevench man was out of work as long as Jack Wilshire was injured, they do often go for . There's got to be someone they need to blame . Do you ever feel bad for like I was talking to the guy Ed on politics Joe because he's like progressive guy, you know, like journalist like political guy. But he's like he just grew up a ranger fan . And I'm that like's, such a nightmare. Yeah, yeah. To be like an extensive people like it , you're just born into yeah fuck I have to support the races these guys I have to booze anytime they take the knee. I think you do just have to change . But in Glasgow, you just like, would you be a part of Fiscal Fan? They're gay. I don't want to be racist . I'd rather be racist than gay. I think we can all agree we'd rather be racist than gay bride months over. I want to compete in Europe. What a challenge for you. You want to sniff the Europa Conference for the love of God. That's the hard bit is like, I mean, whenever I go to Steven HUA games, like you hear stuff you just don't want to hear, do you know what I mean? And you're like proudly associating yourself or being in this club. And it's a question of like, do I just fuck off and leave this or do I try and like change them change the vibe and I don't think that's ever going to really work just in the awakening. I tried that. I tried to sort of get on board with like when I'd lived in England for maybe five years, something like that. It was the World Cup and I was sort of like, I think I'm going to try and like be like, go like, it's a nice bunch of lads. Yeah, it was that one What year would that have been twenty eighteen? The first one we were good. Yeah, nice lads. Nice bunch of like you know I can get on board yes. I like these films and I was on tour with a chat kids theatre production at the time. And we happened to be in Leeds and I went to the O two Academy for showing the game on the big screen. It was fucking huge. Like the hundreds and hundreds of people there. And I was sort of there like wearing a white shirt and I'm not wearing England top. We were taking baby steps basically, but I was like , I was wearing white. I thought you've come out and you're just gradually like going to the gay club for the first time. I'm gonna be wearing leather straight away. Songs. I just like the songs. I'll top first. I went bottom. I'll talk Yeah, yeah, I must just the quote from legend of like I give I don't take, I'm not a puff So I'm like there with a few of my maid froms Leeds and Good shut out Dan actually who listens to this podcast was there and it was the Belgium game. Oh yeah and I was just sort of around like vaguely cheering for England and being like this is cool, this is nice. And then Belgium win and amongst probably like eight hundred England fans, there are twelve Belgian fans who've just been great crack all day like taking their lumps and like when people have been like fuck off when the goals went in and it was like grads, but and then when Belgium scored like they just cheered amongst themselves. It wasn't like they did that, which I think is a very England fan thing . It's not enough for England fans to win. Like the other team have to be reminded that they've lost like there's a lot of England fans. I'll let it continue. I've got a story yeah. English football fans I think that is much more the case than other fans . Oftentimes England fans like or like English football fans in a way ends rather than enjoying celebrating with each other will run to the nearest place yeah and start doing the wagon side and I'm just like my joy when I've watched football or any sport is just entirely like yeah yeah yeah yeah sorry for your loss this is glass and that was very much the Belgian fans and probably because just like strength and numbers they were just celebrating like very inwardly sort of circle thing then. And as soon as the game finished , Belgian fans celebrating and then all the England fans, not all of them, but like they start like fucking screaming at them. Oh my God. Throwing pints of piss at them. Oh my god all this mad shit and I was like, Jesus Christ and then it all kind of calmed down a bit and I just went over to the Belgian lads and was like lads just like you've been great crack all day, like great fair play for coming to this insane place to watch the whole game like, you know, just nice to meet, just can I get you a drink or whatever? And I was just sort of chatting to them and this guy who I imagine like I think probably looked similar to your m ate Dave sort of walks over to me and goes like, What fuck are you doing? And I was like, just 'cause I was wearing white. I was like, What? And he was like, it just fucking beat us. And I was like, right ye,ah, but they'd be like, , you know just all there or whatever. And he spits on me. And I was like, well, I'm not sporting England again So I went home inventing Belgium football chants that don't exist. We want to do the straight to Ladies going We love you waffles. He's done it. Chocolate's coming home. Wipe this spit off, you go, do I want to change this culture from within . There's only so much work man. That's horrible. They're so grim. And I know it's not All England fans, but I was just like, I tried. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Goodbye. I think that's like a sign from God actually. You were on the fence, you were wavering. It's like, it's not worth now to me that's the tournament where England like lost more games than anybody else. Didn't they lose to Belgium like twice because they lost the third playoff as well? Yeah . They lost the most games that five goals in the whole tournament somehow got to the semi final classic South Kit. Yeah. Yeah. It was like, it was like kind of like grim, boring, no structure. The football was no better than it's ever been before, but because he kind of behaved like a backbench labor and in a sort of world of populism it's like is kind of nice I think mid he sort of like mid bench because he's not rebellion it's enough to be like a corbanes he's just sort of like not entirely fresh, but he's just like kind of towing the park kind of yeah, yeah in the park Jee in the park like yeah I had a story where I was gonna try it like I just I do think the tribalism of football kind of pulls you in different directions it's hard because it's like I think nationalism can be a good thing and I think people should have national pride and I think the way you should do it by accepting everyone having national pride. But then like , my life has pulled me away from spaces where nationalism was rife and into spaces where it's much more discreet and apologetic and all was social. Do you know what I mean? I was in I was in Tottenham watching the Euros final last summer and it's like at the bar that I don't really own, but I'm kind of a part of and it's like part of the barbershop and you know it',s in this kind of creat ive community in Tottenham. Amongst the warehouses, there's there's artists, there's tattoo artists, there's this book. Soon to be a podcast studio. Oh yeah, oh god , you were about to move in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys up there It's that and it's like, you know, we're watching it in the bar and it's very like there's people from all over the place in there, but we're there as England fans and I'm watching England lose to Spain and there's just this like girl in like you know full Spain gear and as Spain are beating us she's like literally pointing at us and laughing in our faces and because she's on her own she's got like , you know, like , you know how like people it's hard not to sound like a fucking England fan who would spit on the tour right now, but like you know how people from other countries like the Spanish list. Well, no, but you know how people it's odd to sound like that because I did spit on that. Well no people from other countries they do like to have loud facetime calls in public. Yeah . But I think that is a generalization that is fair to say I don't know why that annoys me more than someone just having a loud conversation, but it really fucked you out . Yeah, you're talking, I wouldn't be that annoyed at all. Why? What is it? I don't know what it is. There it is. And I as I say, I love living in multicultural London. I love that my daughter's grown up in a place where there's a lot of other cultures , but when they're loud on the bus the amount of times you'll see it doesn't matter who are you on the bus it doesn't matter. I've just never seen an English anyone from any other country do this and they'll be on the bus and there'll be FaceTime someone. The other person is always in bed in bed in bed in bed fucking time. It's just a head on a pillow and it's every time it's what are you doing? They're on the fucking bus . They're on the bus so end of the call. Every time what are you up to? What huh? What? Huh? What? What are you up to? I'm on the bus. Then get off the fucking cool.a Wit till they get home . But this girl we're in this bar and it's all full well you know yeah it would be nice if we were on but we all just love each other don't we? She's like ja ja ja Spanish guy in bed on the phone. I mean it was the afternoon in bed. And I genuinely said to Mo a man born of Somalian like heritage. I was like, Please can we kick her out . Can we not just be a good fad for a minute? Could we not just fucking can we not just tattoo riot at our heads and be the fucking statue defenders for kick her out and then we can go back to being fucking fannies about it and love with each other but for a moment we'll do mode do you want to be as English as you'll ever be and just kick a fucking spaniard out while they're being laughed? This facetime call is a bridge too far. Yeah. I would tolerate being laughed at. Why not tolerate being laughed at while someone's having a Facetime call without headstreams as well? Yes, it's the greatest hurts too far. May too far. I mean, we spoke about M. R for about nine minutes. Is there anything else we need to watch one clip? He revealed to us when he was at the studio that he was on only fans . Wow. He had just started it or was like it was about to launch when we did the recording. Sext stuff would fucking fucking like because apparently he has this massive cock. He has a massive shong. Apparently it's like legit . things that The he wraps about that he is just like this enormous pussy is indeed turning red. Yeah, and I remember us me, me Finn and Ratio , having spent weeks, months researching this guy and like writing jokes about him and he arrives and after the record is like, oh yeah I'm starting only fans and we're like what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, you can't do that no you can't d thateny great pleasure . We're really we spent a lot of money on this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you fucked us. Yeah you put this on the mess . Put this on only fans. You will never make a pussy. Oh my god. Also my tour's just gone on sale so I'm so like I'm magnetized towards my phone because yeah Venues can we do this on the podcast venues how are you so bad at putting shows on sale when that 's all you have to do ever is just put a show on sale just put it on the sale and the same day as everything else account. Well, I'm a big fan of hot water . Yeah . I think that they are doing their very best I just think like for the love of God , just put the show on see it at the same time as everybody else and they're like, well, actually we put show s on sale on the third Tuesday of every month and I'm like, well don't my one is going sell at a different time at the time. Every other venue in the country you don't bitch And we'll come back in now . Would you want to leave it in? Leave it in. Fuck you . I don't care. I mean, yeah, not everyone loves him. He now and he thinks it like I don't get why people hate him. He's he's made all of us laugh for so long and he's in a fucking good . And the tunes are danceable . My son danced to them Christmas day. And that's pure. Yeah, that's pure. Yeah, that's's he not trying to be part of a subculture. He knows a good choice. I think babies aren't born racist, but also they're not born with an awareness of racism dynamics. It's just like he unabashedly gets it gets it that the vibes are very irony if you understand that yeah yeah yeah it is true that kids don't understand that and it's like a kind of like it's it's they will just describe things I've noticed like so like my yeah, I'll say it. My my daughter there's like, you know, a black guy down the park who I know we and and like Louis plays with his son and blah blah blah and Louis was I went to the Louis Lou was like, Michael's dad was there today. My daughter said that about this guy. And I was like, yeah, it's really loudly. She goes, He's got a black head . Yeah. Well yeah I mean yeah . Yeah his body his skin is darker than ours. He's got a black head there in Morrisons and she's just shouting . She's gonna be like one of those people on like American campuses that get really into skull sizes or whatever. Sat there . Yeah, she didn't get into weirdness. Rachel scientists sat there with a thing. People have got blackheads, debate me. Prove me I'm wrong. I was so tempted to do this here at Lee Jake be like, She's fifteen, we're really worried . Yeah . But everyone's turned on him. What is it everyone? So do we know what because this is a cl clip?ip Should we watch the? So after the heady days of M. R on Finn versus the Internet, loads of love after that, hundreds of thousands of views. More recently, this is what's been happening to M. R. So here he is at a festival and we're narrated for people listening . So he's for us. He's sort of showing them the big cult ure. It seems like quite a big festival. It does and people start chucking tomatoes and eggs in shout and suck your money. Where? He's throwing it back Where at a festival do you get tomatoes and eggs? I was gonna say that bringing them planned protest. You're bringing them in nowhere like unless you've traveled unless that was Glassbury and you've travel ed to like the fucking green ghost grocer stage. I don't know if they have that shit grassing me, but I imagine stinging there by Greg Wallace. No pants. Autism, fuck you. Pants on his head. Pants on his head. Yeah. I think that yeah, maybe unless it's some kind of like Alex James Blur country pumpkin festival, there could be a farmer's market there, but I don't know that. Actually, those guys do kind of like a bit of rager, don't they? They like to they like to scank the white lady the white lady with dreadlocks, the white lady with dreadlocks has very different vibe to the white man with dreadlocks. I would agree with that. Yeah. There's a chart like in the mortgage ven diagram they could she could have a mortgage still aren't too entirely separate circles. I think maybe like a divorcee with white lady . She's into Christophern, like ex husband, hedge fund guy. Yes . She just sort of she goes to now she goes to Rishikesh in India twice a year. Yeah, big lots of shop vibes. Yes . She's selling etchings. She's selling a lot learning to do Reiki. Yeah. Learning to do Reiki. It's like, you don't have to learn. There's nothing to learn. Yeah, yeah. If I hold my hand above your leg and I haven't learnt how to do Reiki, it has the exact same effect as if I had learned how to do Reiki. Rik . I've had mates who've done Reiki and they're like, Mate, I really didn't believe it. And I'm like, right, but you did. Right 'cause it worked and that's why it worked 'cause you believe you went. You ready? I was a skeptic I've met you not a skeptic enough not to go. I've met you and you've crystals in your house. Yeah, yeah, yeah so not What about that? 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The one thing you can maybe get him on is the accent, but he's just like, it sounds better in this accent. And I grew up around people that spoke like that. There we go. Yeah. And it's also it's not Jamaicans doing that. It's not people from that culture saying, fuck you, you're doing doing. You our thing. You've monetized our thing and we don't like that you've taken that from us. I mean, if it was the chute, but it like they're not like this is much more bumpin behavior than Kingston game. I think I think it kind of circles around back Torres for in the beginning episode. It's not often the people it's not the Mexicans in LA that are having to go at the guy in the Sombrero . It's the farmers market crowd . It's not the people that the scouts love the kid from Ohio who's wearing Monterex. This is it. They're into it. It's the white guilty people that don't like it. I don't even know if it's guilty but I almost feel like they're jealous of him. He's having a great laugh. And he has pride in something. It's what you said earlier , this national pride thing's crazy. There's a great play , fuck me. There's a great play called Jerusalem by Jazz Butterwork. Yeah. And Marker Ryland said it like fucking twenty years ago and then did it again recently and he plays this character called Rooster and it's all about this sort of like it's in the southwest set like near Bristol and it's all about this old fashioned English storytelling. At the end of the play he's just hammering this drum , naming areas in England and you can feel the whole crowd be like, fuck fucking jokes. And that's what the next week we never get to be proud of being . Exactly. Yeah. But he never says England. He like it's all about specific regions because you can be proud to be from Yorkshire, you can be proud to be from Lancashire, you can be proud to be from fucking, you know, Cornwall and all these places and they're all just like fucking I felt the same once in Operation Minced Mead because that's the one thing you guys are allowed to be proud of is World War Two very specific part of the war. Yeah , where you dropped a homeless man's body from a plane? Yeah, that's the story about it. I recall to have done. It's also to have done. It's also sick that it was like the really upper class guys who just sat around in the office back in London going we could get a dead homeless man. That's what we could do. We could drop that cut out of a flade drop it lad and leave it with the ocean like this dead hobo passport Immediate. He was a fucking blue passport, all right? Yeah . When men were men, when dead homeless men were men . Yeah, I think if we've learned one thing from our examination of Mdura, we can respect his appreciation and love for such a beautiful culture. You can be proud of where you're from. Yeah. And if you're not just make up somewhere else . If not, just say you're from somewhere else . Rastafara I know surrender, Rustafara, I know regret Thanks for listening everyone. And if you like Vittorio is fucking amazing comedian, a tour, right? The tour is literally just gone on. all around Ireland and the UK depending on whether we choose to leave that bit in, you'll have heard about some of Victorio's frustrations with the people that in. I think definitely keep it in. Fuck people that work in council venues. They are all useless . It's crazy. When is the tour next year? Tour yeah starts in january twenty twenty six we're up at the fringe this August coming and then the tour starts properly january twenty twenty six all around the UK and Ireland. The London shows at Hammersmith Apollo which is gonna be fucking crazy. That's sick. I've got all my shit in the show. I've got a band. It's very silly. It's a very silly AN two show. Band in Edinburgh as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll shit down the fuck I'm shit in my shit ing stuff. And listen to Magnitori'side G tou that's the podcast. Vad wonderful Yeah, Vad Micah Mike's having a well yeah you want to listen to that podcast in the next couple of weeks even more so than usual because we've had a sneak preview of the mental health Mike crisis is currently going through. You got to be careful with that man. He's on the edge already. Yeah. But it makes this episode . All of the best episodes are from when Mike is on the edge of suicide. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And I would also say that Jake's mental health if it',s on the blink, like when I've said that I think that's where this ends up me and Mike doing a podcast from Broadmore together When I say the Yardies would have shot M that Rather than throw through it or when I mention my Israedel shirt that I wore the Font Sainskig, that's when you can see Jake starting to morph into my brain as you look forward. What mic's up to it, thanks for listening, we'll see you next week. Good Because I'm telling you