Final Thoughts and Michael Spicer

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I mean, get it off your chest if you need to. Okay. Where are we? Well Right now, I'm in my home office, you weirdo. You're in your lounge, in your house. No, no, no, Where are we? Is this a trick question Have you have you been kicked in the head by a horse? Maybe Or maybe like Robert Genrick, I've had a slightly weird day at work where suddenly I'm in the middle of like a really vicious cheese dream and everybody's laughing at me. This was posted by the artist taxi driver. arere we Where are we less than two years later? You're in a different party. We're here We're here You used to be there. We're here They're actually all pointing used to be over there Parliament. Logh that a bit of parliamentary bantance. Deent What's quite funny is that he doesn't even break a little smile. No. He's very serious. He does you don't, you know, you don't laugh at the generic because he doesn't know where we are Yeahes, worry This has got his pants on. This is actually someone did say that's why all of the dimps that go on the march. That's why they need all the flags to remind themselves where they are So many flags. So many made in China No Oh my Godd. I mean There's a lot of confusion going around generally. I mean Some of it stems from me. I mean yesterday's episode was a lot of like political chat. Which I guess is the point of the podcast, but we talk about everything that's happening within labor. and yeah, it's juicy as hell. It's almost like in the Labor Party, they don't seem to realize they've got a vast majority. There's three years to go before a general election. And most importantly, there's a fascist to keep out of number ten. But as I say, that is all covered in yesterday's pod And then Maren has been working away in the one that we're going to bring out on Friday and it's tomorrow tomrow tomorrow tomorrow, tomorrow. And it's it's the corruption in the States.' off the flipping charts It's actually I've got fury in me. I've got fury Ty fury the injustice.. I've got I could probably I've got enough fury to go a few rounds with Tommy Fury. That's how furious I am. I woke up this morning and when I saw what had happened in the Kentucky prrimary, whyy am I bothered about the Kentucky prrimary guys Kentucky becauseuse it's significant.' never been anywhere near Kentucky. But I am so bothered by it. It's like the Makerfield by election, but on steroids, isn't it? Everything that's happening over there is like an acid trip. It really, really is. Also, just to give you a heads up, because I know it's only Thursday, but lots of people will be getting very excited about their bank holiday, especially the weather looks like it's going to be nice and us sprz. Oh my god, and that sun pes its head out We're all gonna be getting our white bits out, aren't we? comeome on. Put the suncream on, don't be silly and try not to be sick if you've drunk too much alcohol. Actually you're not type of Britits that' on the march, mayaybe I don't need to say that. An anyway, No don't I will take that advice we do. A F few things. firstly, because of the Bank Holid Day Monday, it's kind of slightly changing our writing schedule. So there for. we have got an absolute treat for you on Wednesday. It's our next Troll meets. And it's a really interesting one with a very, very interesting articular, intelligent woman, Tessa Dunlop. She's a historian God she's eloquent. We really enjoyed it. So that is out on Wednesday and then you'll have your other trolls as well. Yeah. There's a little raw chat and we take the piss and we talk a little bit about Her co partner on her co host is what you ende. Yeah. Yeah. but she's really interesting on the royals. She's really nuanced and she's really highly knowledgeable. So it's a great one. Very good listen. Yes. But for now Your Union jack flag, get your stellar pants, get your vest Get your Pull your teeth out. pllastic Union jack, hat, yeah, get a spanner, Pull your teeth out And at the end of it, at the end of the march, Jew, we're going to go for dinner. Wh we're going to go for an Indian. High interest debt is one of the toughest opponents you'll face Unless you power up with a so far personal lo A so far personal loan could repackage your bad debt into one low fixed rate monthly payment It's even got suuper speed Since you could get the funds as soon as the same day you signed Visit sofi d. com slash power to learn more That's soFi d. com slash PW E L loans originated by SfFi Bank NA, member F theIC, terms of conditions supppply andMLS six nine six eight niney one So in short, we thought we had to cover this because it was so flipping atrocious. And if this event had happened even ten years ago, it would have been like historically upsetting in terms of every front page would have been like, what hell is going on? What is this? Because last weekend, a bunch of utter fuglies descended on our capital city, which frankly doesn't share their values at all So maybe have it somewhere else is what I kept thinking. Though according to the spectator, which is interesting, not as many people attended as Tommy Robinson would have hoped. So apparently the met were braced one of the busiest days for policing in London in recent years with the Unite the Kingdom rally organized by Tommyy Robinson and also a pro Palestinian Naka D rally taking place at the same time. So they deployed four thousand officers, helicopters, drones, et ccera. Now the last United Kingdom Rally, unite us in horror oody he happened in September and that drew a crowd of one hundred fifty thousand according to the police, which was at the time three times what the M had expected. However, at this event, Robinson said, We're here in our millions. Someone didn't pass their mas GCSE Police estimated that just sixty thousand turned out. I think Owen Jones pointed out it's something like more people show up to see Ipswitch versus what I say Northampton they even been in the same league anyway, you catch you catch the the drift, but not very many people at all. so much I was going say so much coverage. Not really. so much coverage on social Socials. Yeah What was weird is so I went on the Jeremy Weinh the Monday after the March And it didn't feature once Not not once. Yeah, notot even in the newspaper review, which I found odd because it was dominating my social media and If some of the things that we witnessed at that march Some of the hate, the ridicule of Muslim people of Islam, if we saw even a small teeny tiny ota of that directed at another community as an example The Jewish community It would have been wall to wall Wall brightly so cover it now, I was about to say as it should be as it should be. But yes, huge question marks and we are going to look at that within this episode. Anyway, we weren't anywhere near this disgusting spectacle, but I think if we were, we probably would have felt similar to stand up comic Patrick Spicer. I also p all the far right people on the way here Um Geez, I mean, I don't know very much about politics, but those guys look like shit right? Holy crap! They were all wearing England flags to be like, we fucking England. It's like we can tell. Oh my God You look terrible. My God, not a fittity amongst them. I looked at all of them all the way past. it wass like surely one of them, they look so bad. It's so insane. It's 'cause they're so proud of their skin. That's thing I don't understand about nationalists. They're like, fucking white. It was so white. It's like, if you love your skin so much, do some skincare guys Just a little bit of moisturizer before bed it'll do You guys look terrible. They're all red and pasty and fucking angry. They're just They're like heorroids walking around. England we're fucking so English. You need some genetic diversity, I'm telling you. You have no idea. If you go over London, go to the Palestine rally, you will see some fit people. you will see you'll see someone who's like half Italian and half Lebanese, you'll be like F That's a fair point. That' a fair whyy they so angry That's the thing that struck me with some of these box pops. They're so angry. the way they talk like just like shoot those dinghies, get rid of synink 'em Like there's so much hate for your fellow human. I understand if you have that hateful criminals, people who have like done terrible things, but they're just people. They're just people. Trying to play Devil's Africa, I guess if your life is shit and You can't see that ever changing. and you are being willfully manipulated and your algorithms is just full of people telling you that they're getting all this money, that they're coming over here doing this, that they're rap is at this. And all of that is false. But if you also don't have the wherewithal and the education to pull that apart maybe you are angry, you are disenfranchised. You know, it's what's happened throughout history is that, you know, fascists have absolutely mobilized disenfranchised angry people And you know, thankfully, like the numbers weren't that alarming. You know, you're seeing a lot of it in one concentrated space. But can I ask a question, just on that then. Okay, so there will be lots of people who will be will think that their lives are really, really tough right now and they feel left behind by politicians and they don't have that same opinion. they are able to look at a piece ofabig go, that's bollocks. Yeah. What's the difference? Are we saying it intellra Its brains It's intelligence. I think intelligence. Yeah I think intelligence, a curiosity, I think it's the nature nurture argument, isn't it? Okay, so we've explained that we've got the Trow meets coming out on Wednesday. There's a point that Tessa Dunlops a bit of a spoiler made within it and it stayed with me. It has stayed with me since we did that record. She said and she's so right, it wasn't that long ago, we all received the same news So literally, you know, not that long ago, you got the six o'clock news, the ten o'clock headlines, or whatever. and we all looked at it. Now we all had a slightly different lens and we might have had a slightly different view on the same news, but they weren't that far apart and it was nuanced, okay. So it was like, okay, if you're small C consonservative, you believe this if Lave more in the free markets if you're this. Nobody is getting that anymore. We are not getting. We are absolutely beholden to algorithms And so we are in this sort of very fractured world. This is why you've got, you know people who are absolutely the greens are the answer. you've got other people, Starmer is the answer. Burnham is the answer. Tommy Robinson is the answer. Rupert Low is the answer. D. And but within that those opinions are so strongly held so strongly held and what's missing? pragmatism. And I feel that I do have that in me and partly it's because I go on the Jeremy Bine showow as do you and we spend two and a half hours being sort of like disagreed with by callers who think that we are completely wrong Don't agree with us and it's a really horrible experience sometimes, but it's also very useful It really keeps you grounded and it really keeps you a little more in touch than I would be otherwise with the fact that not everybody thinks I cast And it's why the tour is such a pleasure because it's safe space and I feel like everybody is capable of nuance and understands that even if you don't agree with us sometimes, or I get it wrong sometimes, or I say something clunky Hopefully overall, you understand that I'm not a complete pick or unkind person Of course she's one of the nicest kindest people I know. I would say just to take that little step further, you're right, even that whole familyies you can be sat in the same living room. All all consuming different things. Someone's watching the TV, the other three people are on their phones, iPads all consuming. we don't consume together right now. We used to sit down and watch in my family. they watch, you know? everyverybody did I'm sure. But my dad was well talking love. They watch or familyily fortunes or whatever. L sit down for the six o'clock news don't doesn't happen anymore. It was that communal Saturday night experience for me, a team blind date. Yeah, lovely. And yeah, my parents at a certain point, whatever news nine o'cock, six o'clock ten o'clock That's what we were all. That's why we all came together for instance, when Bob Geldolf pulled off live aid. And that it was just like there was only one way to feel. People are starving And of course people now go into that about why it was like white S saavior, bl, blah, blah, blah blah, within that. I don't care. Everybody saw a nation starving to death, famine, terrible famine, and it was being beamed into our living room. We were really sheltered from seeing images like that because we didn't have social media, we didn't have, you know, phones. And so there was only one way to feel, which was like, oh my God, can we help And now everything is so fractured. So yeah Anyway, we're going to go back to the march now and we're going to just wallop you with the most disgraceful moment of all UK fact Check politics posted this and just said far right activist Tommy Robinson made extreme anti Muslim and anti migrant remarks during an interview with someone who is a pro Israeli activist at the rally ist What would happen if you become a Prime Minister tomorrow? What would you change I would stop Islam, I'd end foreign funding in this country. All the migrants be taken out the hotels are sent back tomorrow by the military I would reverse I would have rem migration. It's time for many Muslims to leave this country to not whenra they or similar F'sime to go. You've got your homes to go to. This is our home. We've got nowhere to go to. We're not allowing it to change any longer. You've seen today. People are fed up, then. People are fed up. Fed up. National sovereignty, safety and security Yeah we've And let I any. Thank you.. But again, just think some of those words he said there. I want to stop Islam. M Muslim people need to go back to where they're from, essentially. Again, just turn that around. I want to stop Judaism. I want to send Jewish people back to where they're from. we just didn't get the coverage. The papers didn't care. The press didn't care. And I think that just says Is f like Muslims a fair game It's fair game. I know. It's really horrendous and I feel so sorryful are Muslim listeners, friends, you know, who've lived here and just must be feeling really Really vulnerable really, really vulnerable. And also Tommy Robinson, his connections with Israel. I mean, he's been literally fetted over there, hasn't he? He's been welcomed by Netanyahu. So I don't know what the actual links are and I don't want to say because I might get sued, but He has strong, strong links to Israel Caris Hannah Crees wrote, I would stop Islam You would stop a religion that's existed for over fourteen hundred years How exactly do you intend to do that? No and also even asking him, what would you do if your primary? please He's not an MP. I mean, until not that long ago, until Bloody Musk allowed him back onto Twitter and gave him so much oxygen. he was pretty he'd been pretty sort of where he should be, which is just in the shadows bleating onto whoever would listen to it Mus, by the way, was another one sharing phhotos or clips from the rally and saying it was millions of people. Millions the world's old triillionaire, the world's a man that owns the world's town square is just putting out blatant lies. Well, they were showing images of things that weren't the march. I think there was like this huge demonstration. I think they took place in Bulgaria or something, and they were going, this is London now. And it's like, o God. That guy Craig wrote, United the Kingdom This is what was promised That is what was delivered. This is United Kingdom What was promised versus what was delivered. You know when people go to a concert, this is going to be bigger than any rock music concert. It's bigger than the oasis concert what we're putting on Piger in the oasis concert what we're putting on the here It was so bad. What was there entertainment bigger than Oasis? Bet than Oasis? That man is going Will a racees busy? Could they not make it You actually see there's some other footage where people in the crowd right at the front who know, this is their crowd kind of laughing at how bad the singing is. and I believe I believe that the guy in that clip may have threatened Owen Jones for taking the piss out of his singings, saying that he used AII to make it sound worse. Oh my Godd. Can I just say that particular A? That is the noise I'd make if I'd just slammed my hand in the car door. It sounds like pain, no. That was say that was me during labour for my first year. Yes, exactly. That is like bikini wax guy who looked American had like a sort of cowboy hound, blonde American and looked very looked almost pissed ake how word he was singing? Absolutely awful. Terry Christian was like more great music from yesterday and posted what I'm about to play you. And Lisa Mooris also put started out a bit shaky and then it got a whole lot fucking worse. And I'm just gonna say apologies if you're from Liverpool. And you He Come on Wow come back! here I car this a twenty v. Wk. W! A searchingess I'm starting to think it was it AI did cannot be I because it's so bad Surely if you hook a singer Number one, they need to be able to sing more them What was that? Well, o, like think I think how first singing at pissed up karaoke in Tenerif? Yeah. It's literally absolutely diabolical. It's so tuneless. It is so soulless. It is so devastatingly shit And it is fitting. It is fitting for those scumbacks. And I tell you what, I think, if you think of the greatest musicians of all time, they are all like the real greats. kindind and cool and liberal and mostly left leaning. There's a bloody reason for that. It goes hand in hand with creativity. There is obviously the odd right wing musician. Of course there are sort of like a conservative, but there's not that many. Now these guys are far right. So you're into just Anybody saying. I think if your soul is so empty And so for like filled up with visceral hate, it's like really hard to just be in tune. There's something that correlates with that. I don't know exactly what the science is. Well also, you need to be in tune with your emotions, right If you're going to be a really amazing artist and write amazing lyrics, you need to be or to feel the words that you're singing. Yeah. You need to be emotionally not stunted and not fuckked. Yeah, theseese people are so That's why it sounds like that. There were more scenes. There were more scenes. There was a man I think he was playing, is it the cedo or something And he had bacon over his shoulders. Yeah. Again to make a point almost like he was trying to ward off Muslims life. ridiculous. Another one was the three women who I mean I've got three words to them hicky bitches who went to the stage, dressed in burkers and then whipped them off ort racist bucks fizz What they A, I want to say to these women, Did you have a nice time? Is that all right? Great. Now how you gonna feel if you're raped do you have to keep your rapist baby? Is that all right How about when you, if you if you before pregnant and your employed goes bad luck mate I don't want to hear any. And also do you know how many Romens are in the crowd? But also do you do you know but do you know that that is the movement that you are helping spepearhead this short sightedness of Just thinking the only threat to women comes from men who are with brown skin. We've seen quite clearly Even on that March, that's not the case. Yeah were absolutely awful. Femy took his life into his own hands and went to the march. and I actually noticed he posted some amazing clips and I noticed Annie Lennox commented underneath and just said, how brave you are, a black man going into that crowd and You know, you're amazing kind of thing. and Yeah, he got into quite a lot of abuse. He was laughing about the fact that one guy went o For a minute, I thought you look like that femy. And he went, no, no, no, no, no, mate, no, he's an idiot, isn't he? went off. And there was one guy that he was talking to who was a c full of rage, quite young. and he was saying, Yeah Like five thousand migrants have committed like sexual assaults and crimes And Femi said,, I don't know whether that figure is true or not, by the way, I don't know. but what I saw on the clip is Femy said, included within that, that's people who sort of got settled status or whatever, but also the amount of sexual assaults and crimes against women of that nature. It's actually the figure is eighty thousand that happened. So I understand that those ones are bad. But if those people are got rid of, will you now campaign against the other seventy five thousand crimes are happening to women. And the guy was just like And then he said, we've well, that's it. He said, we've got enough crime here. We don't need extra. This is what I mean, my point that I made on yesterdays showow, you can't argue with these people. I can't argue with these people. I know Sheila Fogerty had a go, She's been very iffy on some things recently on LBC But I thought she was good on this caller. To call it a haten. I've got to disagree. forty three arrest Are we going to start calling the Not Nal Carnival? I hate Carnival because there was more arrest there and there was sting I'm not talking about the numbers of arrests. I'm not talking about the numbers of arrests. The police were never st. I'm talking about tellell me what you think. of prepare for the Battle of Brit. What are we preparing for? Tell me what you think about the misogyny of Get out for the lads. Tell me what you think about E Islam. Let me list it. E Islam. I read the UK of Islam. therefore Muslims. F Islam, Christ is king. Take it off, take it off, take it off. I'm sorry, That's a little family outing, is it? I'm saying dead Muslims out ot the people at this march was saying is We have British values and we need to also adopt them with other cultures and other cultures don't seem to be ated. Well Tommy Robinson didn't just say what you've said and I have problems even with what you've just said there. Okay I'll tell you why in a minute. He said, End Islam in this country Mh Do you support that In context No? Oh no no, No Well, no What's the contxt What If somebody said it in a supermarket you, if somebody said it in a cinema, if somebody said it on the street, is it acceptable Herry, we lost you Sorry, no, no, I don't, I don't agree with it. but when' to what What do you think it means I think is identity, I think what he's trying to say is we need our identity and we need, you to support it. att the moment. we're at a loss, Sheila. a loss I'm at a loss and I feel something tight in my chest Listening to that. Take your bra off Is that what it is let the boys kind tight in my chest and it's Is It's not a nice feeding trawlerers. It's not a nice feeling. and I know you're supposed to have empathy and compassion my cup run is Fucking dry I mean basically, hate crime's galore and we're going to get to the sort of lack of press coverage and a couple of things on that. But listen. Listen, back to the original point that This crowd were perhaps not the cream of British society. What I want to say is I think we should try to look at it from a romantic point of view though. because if any of you guys are single If any of you guys have been on the apps O if any of you guys are searching for your prince charming, whether this is you straight ladies or whether you lovely gay guys mayaybe we should see if we can find the most eligible bachelor. Are we up this ro up for playing a little game with me? Yeah. I'm intrigued. whereere are we going with us? All right. And Okay. And maybe some of you ladies who live abroad and you're looking around and you're thinking, no You can't find Major Clooney here. You might want to book a flight, get into Stanstead And come and have a look for your very own prince chararming So trallers. Let's have a little moment and host our very own version of Bind Date. What? B Oh ladies and gentlemen, here's your host. It's me Sya. Okay, we're gonna go to the march now. O, it's quite busy here isn't it? There's a morea lot of flags. Okay, number one, what's your name? And where'd you come from? Look at this lovely chap ladies, maybe you'd like to go out for a lovely dinner with this guy. You fucking turn up on a boat! him comes. If you're prrime Minister for day will you change? all my fucking employees!uck him comes fucking turn up to He have lived that light as he is. matter what f colour you come from. They cs you fucking turn up on a boat. every f com every day we. Oh now he's absolute lovely Marina. What do you think Gsh U I'm just thinking about what my momum and Dad would make of him. I think they'd really like him. He seems warm, he seems friendly, he seems like very sort well read I well. Passionate I really enjoyed his wide vocabulary. He was incredibly articulular. I know. Imagine like, you know he could be a stepdad to your children because he's got a lovely, lovely mouth on him, hasn't he? Absolutely gorgeous. Yeah, you can see he's definitely not the emotionally stunted fuckwit kind of guy, is he? No, Right, But there's more absolutely gorgeous men out there. So number two, what's your name? and where'd you come from? This one was talking to Paul Chowdrey. I not racious or nothing, but the Morggan's coming over Rael shagging your kitts and we've done that? we're get done. a second. Which one? I'm gonna to find. Hey, which one did? what about the migrs? What's coming over? Well not Riseel ever like that right at all? you. You should do question time. What? You should say this on the news. I know but they don't listen today. Dant listen. You were very eloquent. you put it together very well and you should be the voice. Yes, I will be the voice, and I'm gonna to get my mate. My mate chicken should' have been added todayonight. Another day is a wasteter' be bothered. If we wanted to set up a church And then a Christian church in their country, they wouldn't allow it. Would they? Do mean Be did you try and do that? No, I if we wantned to if we wanted to, they wouldn't let you do it anyway. We can't set up a church in another country. Exactly. Depending on what country it is. Which one do you want to set up in? I' set it up in fucking An of the migrant countriry' coming over now Islamic countriry. J mean, I've got nothing against Islam. haveave you pleased that? Not the terrorist. Oh, lovely marines. he's got lovely pals like chicken. You can see there he's drinkking stellar and he's pissed out of his bloody mind. so what a fun guy cer it' a tough because was really tough about this one is in the beginning of that clip, it sounded like he was annoyed that he couldn't also rape kids. That's what it sounded like at the beginning. because if we do that, it's not allowed. but they can do it. So he's a definitely contentnder sitter. Who have you got next for me? Oh number three, this lovely, lovely guy, this absolute suitor from heaven is talking to our Nicola Thorpe. He's gonna to give you chills everybody. notot sexy ones, the type that might make you feel like you're in danger. Tell me briefly what your ideology is. It's Christian nationalism so we People remain a British country because Britain is British. When it comes to Christian countries or white countries might with the global minority, we're only eight percent of the population. People seem to don't care or they seem to be for replacements. I guess for me I don't see that we're being replaced. But look at the numbers. ninety nine percent, I think thirty years ago. now down to seventy five percent and by twenty sixty six, we'll become a minority. We're already about thirty six percent There English people British people on the whole white people. Well if England was to go into Scotland or Wales and completely get rid of the Wels and Scottish people, they would be Eng they would' be If they were if they were people then wouldn't be Wales or Scotland. come from different backgrounds, having children and those children are mixed may be because we're the best country the world. And what number of population would you deem to be acceptable there Sound At least ninety percent. I think we get the gist with him, a Sorry, back to Silla So there're a man who's got really, really strong conviction, very quite quiet, you know sinister If you like Sinister It's not what I typically look for in a life partner. Right? No, right? No. You might not get a lot of laughs with that I'm kind of trying, Syilla understand I think I'm starting to understand actually, looking at these people I'm starting to understand why they're so fucking. You know what I'm doing right now everybody tralllers.ve got I've got a needle and a thread and I'm sewing up my vagina. S. Oh dear. Alright. well anyway, thank you very much. That's it for blind Date Here's our graham. the gram yesterday I don't know, I don't know. Oh my God. anyway, led by donkeys, absolutely genius, the fantastic activists. they plowed right into the crowd with a massive, massive screen. And at first what was so funny was they had a big union jacks. they all go 'cause they like padlo off dogs And then they played an amazing video, which just said essentially, immigration makes Britain brilliant. and it had the jit andbg playe bit of wham and all these footballers, all these pop singers, all these incredible people that were originally with foreign heritage. and it was just like all immigrants basically, it was fucking brilliant. And then people got really angry. Yeah, one man scoured. Th't he went on top of the vow I' to to do what? Ton't you try unplug him I getting so angry about these, I told Michael. Jileap So Well these by footballers scoring goals for us A yell. Yeah. You say Bolt winning us Olympic medals Fuck I'm a vengeable sking, I'm a fucin man Rember Stella H Bloody hell. Right We've got three more clips and they're all lovely. and I almost like g with the vion isn't there? This is a vica This is a Vicar spepeaking and he was posted by Tres Union Congress and yeah he said his piece about Tommy Robinson and his ilk. It really baffles me that the people who are promoting this idea of Britain as a Christian country seem to act in the least Christian ways. My name's Fav Lke. I'm an Anglican priest here in Lton, It a town that's well known for its football club, for Tommy Robinson for Andrew Tate, and we want to tell a different story. So to people like Tommy Robinson and others who are trying to use the Christian message T promote dis unity. There's nothing Christian about that at all. Christianity is to love your neighbour, to fight for the rights of workers and the poor and to stamp out hate. In our community project we work with people who are Muslim, Hindu, see people of all faiths and none. Anybody who says multiculturalism doesn't work, I'd say, come and hang out here sometime, see people from across all kinds of different cultures from places across the world and how we celebrate and how we live together. I like that man. Luke, lovevely. He's Christ giving priests from flea bag vibes. Just a lovely guy. And this is what we wanted to do. We wanted to sort of like end this section with some good vibes. We do have to ask the question, which Marina asked right at the beginning of the episode, well the fuck with the press. And the young Iam said, When Muslims are targeted, the silence is deafening Not a single news outlet covered. What happened on Satay Islamophobia. The hatred, the violence the threats the inciting violence to men who were at the march And I say this again, I say this again, Nbody is community deserves hatred. Nbody is community deserves to be targeted If's happened to Jewish community, it'd be all over the news. I've ved the Jewish community and other minority communities when they've been attacked or when they've been targeted My question has always been to the media, whyy would you not report on what's happened to Muslims The way they were treated on Saturday at the Marches. and that question always stands and I come back to double standards Yeah, and fair enough and I feel so sad about it. Right, let's end this section. This clip's absolutely lovely. So let's end with someone pleasant and eloquent. This is Anita Ranie, she's a broadcaster and she posted this It's really thoughtful over on her Instagram and I thought it was a lovely way to end this section. You know those people who were marching yesterday through London I've got a question about it because I'm genuinely fold about the level of hate. I have been to reffugee camps I went to Chad at the end of last year. I've been to Jordan, where Syrian refugees live in Chad it's Sudanese refugees and you know what It's horrendous They have nothing Their countries are at war They are ordinary people like me or you Could be you, we are only here because of an accident of birth, right Get that into your heads So I don't understand what the beef is We have a country where the water is so pure we could drink it out the toilet if we needed to Y children have access to free education. We have free healthca We have Beautiful countryside. I just want you to If you are feeling this. I get it because I have rage. Oh yeah, I'm dealing with it myself. but I step out I come for a run. In fact, there's some brilliant champions running the Hckney half today. I get grass underfoot I listen to the birds I take the sun in for Vitamin D I meditate. Ient time thinking about life and how beautiful this world is and outince' podcasts, I'd recommend Empire or Sisters of Defiance, which drops next week So I'm just saying, focus on your own lives Um, Do what my mum always said to me Work twice as hard be twice as good, be exceptional. Don't blame other people Focus on Your bad self and your own game and find joy on your heart, okay? 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And you know what, the things that she mentioned are all free as well So you can't say I haven't got a job to not be able to feel grasp beneath your feet you know, or to look at the sky and hear the birds and meditate and just try not to be a bell cheese. Yeah. Is that try not to be a Belgese? It not to be a Beljese.'t merch. to hundred percent, donon't be a dick. All, some underrated. We've got some good ones. You did the first one Jim, I'll do the next one. Okay, Frank. Riot. This poster has found itself on the route of tomorrow's United Kingdom rally. So it was on a bus stop. When you've got rid of all the mosques, but the costs of life still rise, and you've built your fortress borders, but the NHS still dies, and the Muslims are all gone and your towns are all of white, But corporate vultures are still pillaging every facet of our lives. Who will you blame then? What will you have gained? A badge for barbarism against a backdrop of decay. Every word Yes, very, very, very good. And this one as well, this was brilliant went viral because it obviously, you know Touch the right note. Ray Fighthouse wrote I'm an immigrant who's lived and worked in the UK for sixteen years. I have a North American accent and I'm white. I've never once been told to go back to my shitole country or to stop stealing jobs from British people concerned about immigration You're racist. Yep, succinct. Very good. Now, if you're a regular, you'll know that Marina calls me head of tech with her tongue slightly in her cheek. So I have sympathy for this following underrated, although even are not as bad as Ryan Maxwell's mum, who is really struggling to get to grips with what WhatsApp chat groups are actually for. So he posted this and just put, I cannot My mom recently installed WhatsApp andodic groups women for sorting contacts. Long story short, She created a group called She created a group I important about twenty five relatives I qu might also be an email after we messaged on WhatsApp saying that it was fun messaging. I so cute startart to think No one promised to find me in every lifetime in a previous life. When you wear like so out of it? I For the lady Perhaps it's Ax. Celle the first one. Oh God, the bless is mum. That is really embarrassing. That is awful. I've made some ph pils like that. So I for some reason, I had obviously when you save someone in your phone book, that's what it looks like when you're talking to someone on WhatsApp. And I had saved someone ages ago though I saved it as say her name was Jane and her ex boyfriend was John. Yeah. It was Jane John's girlfriend. Yeah And then afterwards, I was so stupid of me. I went I was like, Jane, you might want to change your name because it still says your'reh's girlriend sheide. I think that's a Sorry. So underneath that clip, R three D Ball baby said, donon't laugh at that first one. I did the same thing, . e. creating a WhatsApp group, thinking that it was somewhere to store people rather than a chat. I did the same thing to a bunch of men I was dating at the time. They got lumped together in a group called M I love this one Stephanie Clout Pastry wrote. I named my work group rubbish. I had no idea. otherther people could see that I named it. And we've got a couple more. This is just really heartwarming and just to demonstrate, we all know it. M people are bloody wonderful, notot like there's Gibbons that descended on the Citol last week, the Archbishop of Banterbury. In twenty nineteen, thousands of people queued for hours in the rain in Worcester after an appeal was launched to help five year old Oscar Saxel B Lee, who'd been diagnosed with a rare form of leukemia. Around four thousand eight hundred fifty five people attended the donor drive to be tested as a match, as a stem cell match The response made headlines across the UK, and following the nationwide appeal, they found a matching donor and Oscar underwent a stem cell transplant as part of his treatment. After later traveling to Singapore for specialist treatment, Oscar was eventually declared cancer free And he's now back at school and continuing checkups, but living life with his family after years of treatment People are good. peopleeople are mainly good. inherently good. Yeah. Sadly they are manipulated, led thats Yes Oh last one. this one this one's a bit of an about turn So we've all had of that lovely heart wararming. You ready for it, trarawlers? for it? C on, Gemma. Okay, the leader of the pack old Farage face, he appeared on the news the other day and he was broadcasting live from Kent. So he said Kent underneath and Ph face just said As a teacher, I have to say, the standard of spelling in the media is atrocious