Local Council Sabotage and Closing

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I'm Marina Burkis. and I'm Gemma Forte and Marina You know how in previous episodes of the Troll, occasionally, I've just really walloped you with a very Profound insight you know, like, do you remember there was the episode where I suddenly realized that a When you think about it, There are a lot of people in America, rem remember that one. That one was a goodie. A real solid takeaway for our listeners. Yeah. I've got another one G Another one Oh gosh Bace yourselfs t, little go one. This weekend It was bloody hot It was flipping, sweltering and there are a few more interesting points to be made surrounding that, but it was so sweaty. It was so sweaty. Yeah. But first, we need to say thank you so much to everybody who has now come to our two tall live shows. The second one happened on Sunday when in the capital city it was about seven thousand degrees. And in fact, the lovely guy, James, who's been running these and organizing these shows for us, said, Ohh, you'll get quite a lot of dropouts ' that's what happens when it's this hot. No, no, no, our trailers are made of stern stuff. There There's no lying on the bed in their pants with the blinds closed for them No, no, no. You were all there and it was jin. You are machines. Y. Machines, someome of you machines that clearly had a few drinks in the sunshine before coming to the show and good for you Oh you love that for you. Oh it was so much fun. So thank you again. Thankk you specifically to Vicky, Vicky who brandished two small thym plants at us and said there you go, Order of the Bh. Order of the Bh amazing. You need to be a very long term trarawler to know what that is all about, but we couldn't believe it. Also thank you to Nick gave me a beautiful book. I mean, just too too kind. I got the book as well. So thank you, Nick. I know so sweet And also a huge thank you to Ellie and Angela. Oh yeah, they were so lovely. I know. I think you came from Dan from Liverpool and it was really funny. He said this is a mum daughter combo. Hello, hello ladies. And Angela said, I got my daughter into the troll She said I channel, you Gemma and Ellie channels Marina I don't know what that means exactly, but we then shared a moment of rubbing our knees together outside the theatre. It was bonding. Oh you trarawllers. every time we meet trarawers there, blooddy. epic. So We've got some news, haven't we about hang on a minute, Marina. you haven't given me a chance to get the drum roll. Hang on. Here we go it, right? you go Yes, we've got more shows coming your way, everybody. Okay, let me go into the little poster that I've put on Instagram so I can remember what the bloody dates are. So we've got an absolutely mhusive one. I'm bit scared about this. I'm gonna absolutely shit my pants Me too. Bloomsbury Theater, seventeenth of September. By the way, tickets are going on sale this Friday. So DMani at twelve o'clock. I just said Demani, Rodney Tood morningorning morning. tomorrow in Italian. That's a big there. Yeah. That's like a five hundred seater, right? Yeah, so please come. Who do we think we are? I don't know. Who do we think we are? This is gonna be like it's gonna be up before your fiftieth birthday when you invited anyone you met. Yeah fif. A bit rude, but yes, true. absolutely true. Anybody dont come to my party who I've never met before Y That's a. that's a one. But we're also we are getting a little sort of tour bus together of some kind and we're going to Manchester and we've got two shows in Manchester at the fifty three two venue And one of them is on the eleventh of November and one of them is on the twelfth. So can't wait for that. So we're getting there. we're getting there. My hope is that if all of these go well, My intention is Scotland after that. Yeah I think that makes sense, doesn't it?? Let's see how it all goes Anyway, back to the heat Back to the heat. Yeah, so back to the heat and we are blaty terrible at it in this country. Rames said a reminder that it's absolutely fine to be annoyed about the weather. It sort of slightly annoys me when if it's hot like it has been this weekend and then you say it's too hot, somebody goes, Well, you know, if it was cold you'd be moaning. Yeah I would because it'd be too cold And that's too hot That's how life works. You can be annoyed by both extremes. If somebody's dying a thirst in the Sahara It doesn't help to go to them. Well if you're in the arit, you'd be freezing wouldn't you? That'd be a nightmare? Yeah, it would. but I'm still dying now. so Sut up. Fair enough. The thing is our infrastructure is just not made for this kind of heat. and we'll get on to the climate change sort of factor in a second. But I actually was at Marina's house the other day and then I checked if you live in London, you have City Maffort. It tells you how to get anywere And I was like, o, okay, just a little journey home. I said I was going to be a bus, a train and a bus. I felt like I felt like I was in the Foreign Legion qu. And then because I was so fucking hot, I felt like I was treking through the desert. And then, do you remember you've got to be my age to remember this? There used to be a show weird when you think about it, called Tenko. And it was kind of like a soap drama, but it was set in a Japanese prisoner of war camp. that was for women only and they were all just constantly sweaty Remember that No O, is that where you felt on the way home from my house? Yes, one hundred percent. By the time I got home, I was like. And again, if you don't live anywhere near the capital and therefore don't need to experience the London underground in these kind of temperatures, then go to the nearest mirror and give yourselves a massive smug face immediately This is Tom Elves over on Instagram and in this clip he is channlling the CEO of TFL. So for the buses, should we spend the money on air conditioning or on tiny little rubbish USB ports that people just shove chewing gum in USB ports, just what I thought, just what I thought. Okay, next, I was thinking, you know how we're the most expensive underground train system in the world? You know, ye, way more than New York and Tokyo. But you know how New York and Tokyo both have air conditioning on their trines? I was thinking wed just let them burn Yeah, I was just thinking we just let them melt Yeah, maybe on like a couple of the lines we can have some aircn, but the deep hottest lines were just lamburn. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking Okay, finally I was thinking when it gets over thirty degrees, which is, you know, it's not that often, when was the last time it was thirty degrees? last year. Well, you know, this year it's an Enemo or whatever. so can't do think about that, right? I was thinking that all the signal failures should just happen. You know? I think we should engineer the trains to have signal failures when it gets marginally warm. o? goodood. So true. Our trains are so rubbish. C Humphrey's Ay eight said in colder sauners compared to the central line. Yeah. What I will say is the newer trains that are being made do have AircOon. I've got some new trains on my network southeast And they're fantastic. So it's like there is a point to be made here that of course, originally, when the London Underground was built, it' so bloody old that it's just not really fit for purpose. So there are some elements where it's not really fair to compare it to the silver bullet in Tokyo or indeed the new lines that are being created, but it certainly reflects like nobody was experiencing temperatures like this Back in the day exactly. And there's a serious point to be made here, of course We love the long evenings. We do. right. We love the excuse to knit rosese. We love how clothes become superfluous to need. Ben Hoobs pointed out It's a great day to remind people that reform believe in climate change and are already scrapping climate targets in councils they control Yeah. So the met offffice, let everybody know that the bank holiday we've just had, it was the hottest day in May on record. temperatures reaching thirty four point eight degrees. So That's weird. And also I was having a chat with my dad actually yesterday and he was saying Why has climate change been knocked so far down agenda. and it is true. And I think there's a number of factors for this and I think there's an element of sort of doom fatigue, if you like. People have checked out a bit because not only have you got that, but you've got economic anxiety and you've got wars happening. So it kind of like knocks things down. So in other words, sort of the media attention just sort of shifts away from it. But not only that, you've got these very polarizing political narratives. So almost as if the climate has become a bloody culture war, and we'll get onto that. And then you've got this real short termism And again, if you're thinking, why are youre talking about Tony Blair and his latest spoutings in this episode, that's because we're going to cover that in tomorrow's episode. And on that note, in this episode, we are going to be taking a look at the latest state reforms vetting procedures and indeed, the sort of talent When I say talent, I'm doing the air bunnies that they attract. But quickly back to the weather. Charlie Davies said Inevitable forty degrees Celsius dayay in July is going to be Apocalyp It's going to get there. We're going to get there. Yeah, we will. we will. it is inevitable and Greenpeace have been talking about this a lot and they are saying that obviously heat waves are deadly. Sadly, they kill close to three thousand people in the UK every year with obviously the elderly and most vulnerable being hit the hardest, but but India hit forty eight two degrees over the weekend and They can't work They can't function. You can't be outside in that What's the hottest temperature you've ever been in? like when you've been abroad or whatever? I remember there was once the hottest I' ever felt. I was actually in Vegas Many moons ago, and I think it was like it was pushing forty and I just thought, I love the sun. I'm a sun worshipper And I couldn't you couldn't sunbathe. It was so hot. I kept I had to like line the pool, then go back into the shade into the pool. It's just at one point, in fact, at one point, I was just lying under a towel It was so hot and you couldn't walk You couldn't walk up and down st. It was unbearable. You just had to be the whole time in those casinos with the aircon pumped in. Yeah. So Meanwhile, as Greenpeace pointed out, fossil fuel giants like Shell and BP whose emissions are driving this lethal weather. they continue to rake in billions every single year. And then Redhead Aphelia made this point over on threads She said, I can't believe how any person older than twenty can't feel climate change through their own experience. Like summers used to be less unbearably hot. and there was much more snow in the winter when I was a child. Exactly. That's the thing I've always loved about living in Britain is the very defined seasons. you know, that beautiful change, spring, It's so sort of subtle and gorgeous and that lovely autumnal light and you want almost a cold winter. We can all cope with that. Now we get these sort of slashy weird winters pisses with rain the whole of August usually. Unbearably hot at random times. So yes, of course we can feel it. And it's not just the UK smashing its heat records. Ireland hit twenty eight degrees, France hit thirty seven. India, forty eight point two as we've just said. And the thing is trarawlers It's not summer yet We're in May Russell Warfield said, How to survive the heat wave? Stay hydrated, Treat yourself to an ice cream. Dismantle the fossil fuel industry, which is literally burning the planet for the short term profit of a vanishingly small capitalist class Loose fitting clothing. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing. It's like burn the planet to get this handfulull of really rich people Rich ridiculously rich And that is why it's buried in our news. Beause you know who Is is controlled by and they have their own fossil fuel interests And this is why reform is just such terrible, terrible news.. We've heard we've heard them talking about how they want to scrap it at zero, how they don't they don't even think carbon dioxide is bad, a bad thing You've got Richard Tice Yeah, like trying to like dismantle things that perhaps Dave Vatenborough has argued against. It's pathetic, it's pathetic all for what. We all live on this planet. It's all our homes. Yeah. justust look after it you pricks, you selfish short sighted pricks. Just look after it. couldould not agree more Gsh, I'm a bit irate today That's absolutely fine. I totally feel it. So if you like in a way, part two of this chat is going to be in tomorrow's episode, where we will look at what Tony Blair hass been saying, We will look at this net zero thing and actually break it down for you and have a look at why our bills are so high and all of that kind of stuff For now, I think rather than ending this particular section on a depressing note, let's have a reminder that sun does also rhyme with fun, Marina. And so on that note, here is the Qeen, Jane MacDonald, reminding us all that fun things can happen in the sun. . e. holiday flings, who doesn't have one of those? Here she is talking to Alan Carr on the Chatty Man podast Has Jane MacDonald ever had a holiday romance? I've had lots of I like How long old believe people go I'd rather not talk about No Oh, I've had that many. Oh, I love it. I like them because they're not very long. No that, you know, and leave it. And yeah. But you can leave them and never see them again. and I quite liked that. Yes. You know' sign of you? Aries. Oh, o. What are you? Gemmino. Oh on two face. A yeah was. I've seen it now. Yeah. So yeah, I didn't have really time because I was too busy with my job all the time. Yeah. So holiday romance were great for me ye We have off holiday rreits before we go to the break jm What was your best holiday romance The one I had in February? Oh yes. You too you had a good one. Mine was in Sicily called Mario. Oh Mario, Mario, dreaming. The worst one I ever had ended in me inviting him over to come and see me in England. I was very, very young and then he turned up at the station and one realised that perhaps, perhaps it really was best left in Greece. Oops Oh my God, I'm so grip traulous. I want to know more about Germ's holiday rs. I actually think because I've got more, I've got one where I had similar There was a guy from up north from Scarborough And we tryed to make it I lived in Portsmouth at the time of Portsmouth Union and he was at Scarborough being an electrician trying to make it work and I found out he cheated on me I've got to tell you the story. I'm gonna save it. I'm save it for the gos. the gos. We' hear a story and other stories of Our holiday Romaners, join us on the Gosps We will record one either this week or next. Yeah, that's over on Patreon and the details are in the details Well. Right. Okay, as you know, we're into politics now taken as a well, but it's been very hot. The Makerfield by election is looming in the near distance and we now know who reform are putting up as their candidate there. And once again, trarawlers, I'm sorry, but if you're one of our single lady listeners or a lovely gay guy he's a c so much so that I had to be dug up and brought back again. Oh yes, here we go Okay, Marina, this guy is absolutely gorgeous. He's got so much going for him and we're gonna to find out a little bit about him. So he's called Robert Kenyon and here's our Lewis Goodall over on LBC talking to Sheila Fogty so we can find out a little bit more About this lovely lovely guy So Robert Kananyion, who is of course the party's candidate in the upcoming Makerfield by election, self made man, man who is a plumber, seems to be Diriger. You always have to be a h have a plumber in by election these days. he's been getting into some Controversy over social media comments that he has made. hitherto, some of which before he became involved in politics. There's a story in the Independence today saying he made degrading comments about women, not an account linked to him can't drive. It's alleged that he wrote, Women can't ref a referee, drive or give directions and then declared I'm sexist Sorry, but I am So in his own terms, he is a self avowed sexist. That is something that reform has dismissed as locker room banter. Oh my goodness. There are also reports in the I Newspaper about alleged comments on abortion claims that he made posts about how abortion is a quote cowardly act of murdering a defenseless baby and it's being used by women as a secondary form of contraception and a way of not having to face up to it because a doctor did it for them. Reform responded to that by saying these comments were made before Councillor Kenyan entered politics and that Rob Kenyan is perfectly entitled to his own personal opinion. And people often before they enter politics much more likely to have very few followers and they kind of treat their social media accounts not as like obviously a politician would or a well known journalist would or whatever. veryery much a private thing for sort of family and friends. But it is true to say that the way that reform are responding to this is quite characteristic of how they've increasingly responded to many of these things, which is not to sort of apologise for whatever, but to dismiss it as a kind Westminster wo karate thing and the ordinary people see through all of this kind of thing. So there you go, Trawlers. if you want a massive sexist in your life who clearly despises women and think she can't drive Go for it. Why do these people like exist? or if you hate women so much S Do like why don't date women, donon't shag women? Go and be with her if you want to be with her. Leave women alone. Clearly don't like them Yeah. And it's really interesting that Reform have chosen, if you like just to be like, yeah, we're fine with it. Yeah, don't we' about it. It's absolutely fine. They know what they're doing because they know what they're doing They know exactly what they're doing. They don't want to outcast him. No. They want him to be theirir subtle message to their base they're all in a bunch of bloody sexist twats to think o Well, that's exactly what I think that's my place. And by the way, on that note, it was released, you may have seen in the Guardian. So you know all the twenty twenty four riots that there were after the Southport murders? Yeah. It was revealed in the Guardian One in five people arrested over the twenty twenty four riots, So all those twacks that took to the streets have since been reported for domestic abuse One in five people arrested. Wow I' since been I mean, it was do know what I mean? It was never about women and girls It's never about women and girls. These people don't like women and girls just angry Udeveloped pricks that hate women And this is just their outlet. This is just their It's like they've got no purpose. They' they're angry And reform is their home. Yeah. And this has been quite well publicized about this Robert Kenyon guy. So yeah, it would probably pass a few people by who still think it's okay to vote for reform. But immagine hearing this and going, yeah. Yeah, I want him as my MP. There was another lovely guy though, Marina, An absolutely lovely guy who props off and another b. Oh, he's nice. So underneath post about these comments, somebody called Department of Gym Efficiency wrote womomen can't drive They can't navigate roundabout. Fact, vote restore Britain. Mate, you want to see me. You want to see my parallel parking? I would put you to shame I sometimes get a car into spaces smaller than my car. Absolutely me too. Me too. I am bloody superb parallel parking. Oandelust at the Maritoyia said, If you vote for this guy and have a mother, wife, sister, daughter, or son You're as viile as he is and part of the disgusting misogynistic problem. Reform Limited have already voted against laws about upskirting, stalkers, et cetera, from the preachers of protecting our women and children. As long as they can abuse them, that's fine. Reform Limited are against women, and they have proven that time and time again. And another lovely guy underneath that post E G B O one two one per We don't care. These people, there needs to be a new invention whereby all of these people put on some sort of like register. And so women can just go like if someone gets talking to EGBO one twenty one like there, she can just go and do a little cross check What's his he posted? Oh posted that great. He's not getting anything from me. We just need a database of sorts of wrongins. I they really helpful Perhaps it's, you know, one time where social media is a plus because you can see who people follow. Yeah. Carol Vorderman has been abused by Robert Kenyam. Yeah, it's been in the papers, some of the things he has said are so vile, so crossing so many lines. And so I thought we'd feature this clip where yeah, She states very clearly how she feels, and she's actually asking for an apology, but to all women So new online posts, which you might not have been aware of an account which reform have not denied is from him. says about women and how they look. He said that English women don't care and quote, just walk around with their fat bellies and odd shapes pushing around at sixteen in their pJs. This is someone reform wants to be. and pay He also said on this post, Women can't referee, drive or give directions and happily declared I'm sexist in a Rugby League fans forum, the same account Which again, reformer not denying is from him They were talking about European women and Rob Kenyon responded to a post saying wouldn't get me off any of those with a bazooka Tell me is a creep Whatas this reform said? said, he's just an ordinary man making ordinary comments. No, he isn't. He's a disgusting littleittle creep and doesn't deserve to be a member of Parliament. And reform have form. Where do they do their vetting? Is it like Nigel Farge, Richard Tge or Wh you got some candidates? Oh, there's a gutter over there. Let's scrape some people out of it. I mean Are you kidding me? And the idea that this guy would be equipped to be an MP. But it doesn't matter. so like, I know we're going come to it, but these people aren't equipped for anything. They're not equipped to be counselors, they're not equipped to be MPs They're not decent people. They are It is a very clever way if you think about it, right? This Robert Kenyon is going to essentially be Post a boy for the foot quits He's going to be a poster boy for all the wrongs that are the people that troll me and you that you know that that are sexist, that are racist. He is there and he's going, look at me. I can be your champion in Parliament I can have some power. I can sue for us Yeah, because we don't care because we don't care We don't care. I am sexist. Deal with it. Deal with it Wow, it's so kind of depressing. And then you've got, you know, this is interesting because it's like a sort of class thing. It's like people who should know better, you know, the ones that speak with a posh bloody voice and yet are enabling this. So you can't say, well, you know, if you're educated you know better. No, no, no, no, no No, no, no, no, no. Do doesn't work like that because his Danny Kruger with the most Weaslely defense. He is a is he from MP already 's in reform. I can't think he's in reform Just have a little trck. And while Maren was doing her little live traol there tap tap tap tap, we can give you a fact. Yes, hang on, Yes, because he he defecated. He defecated defecated over, didn't he? from Yes, from Tories. No, but that still doesn't mean he's in there because they've only got about six MPs And we did a list of ten. Yeah, put your hand. Remember this I think we just keep this in. this is how our brains work to us Okay, while she's doing that, Yes Daniel Rain Kruger, MBE, of course that one has got an MBE is a British politician who has been the member of Parliament for East Wiltshire. Okay. oK, I was liber of Conservative partarty, but defected to reform in september twenty five. Okay, and he's also Pru Leith's son So let's have a listen spouse, Emma Kruger, Emma, what are you thinking? Be I can't imagine going on TV or radio and going Yeahah, no, no, those posts are fine. I've got no concerns, no reservations whatsoever. No, he's our guy. He's great. And yet T Here's Danny Kruger. It is clearly wrong for politicians to talk in that way. He was not a politician at the time He is an ordinary man from an ordinary place. and what he's done now is to step forward outraged at the state of our country in the state of his country. ordinary men from ordinary places do not right I'm not going to defend those comments, but please can you acknowledge that there are other concerns play what reform stands for? It is an essentense of resolution better politicians. Absolutely I' tried to use that as a theme to understand why when you're going to get rid of some of the civil servants and you're going to replace them with potentially men in Makerfield who say they want to do that to TV presenters, whether they should. Are they up to the job? Are they the best ordinary man from an ordinary background you could get. What we want is politicians who will hold this machine to account I'm not going to sit here and polleice the previous remarks, unacceptable as they may be, of people who as private citizens, said things they shouldn't. There is a bigger story here, and I recognise I'm not going to diminish the importance of that E Nice little blast of music there, but anyway, that's because they then reform and your friends who posted this putut over which can't see it a podcast, saying decent Northern men don't talk about people like Rob Kenyon did. C't believe. I can't believe the way They will dismiss it Yes it doesn't matter is going to be voting if he gets into Parliament, he is going to be shaping legislation How can you let that person those views shape legislation into that building as well. It's like it's a thing isn't it? I've been to Parliament A as a tourist. I took my little kids there one day, know and you pay and go and look around and have a tour and it's really interesting And I've also been there with you when we went to the House of Lords as Jenny Jones's guest, which was just absolutely incredibly interesting and felt just we were both buzzing, weren't we? And then I went once to speak Every single time I sort of felt sort of feeling of sort of respect for the place and the institution, I suppose and the fact that you're in this shrined to democracy. and whatever you think of our politics We still live in a democracy We still live in this country that basically delivers and works and we have clean drinking water. And you know, it's not that bad So then you think of like someone like him in there?, Well, no, no, you learn that, right I my God if he get in if he get it if he getes in I'm going to have a worse feeling than, you know when you look at people and go, did you vote Brex here You know, not that I go to makeer feelields you know every day or whatever. But it'll just be like, did you vote for this man? It also I will be, oh my God, the contempt I will have for the women who voted for this man Yeah if they vote for him. The pick me bitches that vote for this man likeike It would be pretty worrying. I've actually got, I've had an offer from our friend Hay who lives there basically And she said close to the time, do we want her to be our girl on the ground, go and get a few sound bitites, talk to a few people? And I just said, yeah, that would be really interesting. Yes, abolutely absolutely. Yeah, she'll go a little mic and do that for us. and we'll pay her with maybe a voucher for WHS or something like that budget. . Okay, listen, it is going to be very tense. and at the moment, polling suggests that the greens who are standing a candidate would glean about three percent of the vote. And guess what the margin is between Andy Berham and reform? It's about three percent negligible. So there are a lot of people who are like ake come on. And although the Greens, as reported in the Guardian, have said that they are going to focus more on the Manchester M. by election, of course, which will be triggered if Berham goes to Parliament, They are still going to fight the seat. I think that's really really stupid. And even though they're not going to devote many resources to it, I just think I'm with Caroline Lucas who was just like, don't. think about The bigger picture. And then on that, Jeremy Corbyn has written an open letter to Andy Berhon, which I think is really interesting. And he's basically sort of bigging him up for a few things, but then he's also talking about Palestine basically. And Jeremy Corbyn is saying, I'm calling for an independent public inquiry into Britain's involvement in Israel's military operations in Gaza. And he's essentially sort of forcing his hand. He's like a bit like, we want to know We want to know where you stand on this before the makeer field by election, which I think is reasonable. And he's saying, if you intend to run for the leadership I want to ask whether your government would establish this inquiry and also can you confirm if your government would end all military cooperation with Israel, including arms sales, the supply of F thirty five components and intelligence sharing, and so on and so forth. So we'll see, I think he's yet to respond. Politically because of the lobby him in a bit of a position because it's so complex, but morally it doesn't. So there you go. It is weird, isn't it? Because essentially it' going to be like a leadership election for him. Yeah. Yeah. And yet we don't actually know what his policies are. So you know, because he is my understand it, he's going to stick to there he's not going to deviate from the fiscal rules. So I just don't know what the change is I think again, it's all about keeping Farage out and inside Jesus Christ. haven't we been here before So un insspiring. It is an opportunity for a clean slate and for somebody who isn't associated with winter fuel And also because as, you know, we've discussed before, there just is this absolute atred for Starma really across the board He just doesn't seem to have registered with people. So anyway, look, that's another chat really, and we've covered that in other episodes. But anyway, meanwhile The reform cououncillors a out doinging themselves. It's quite extraordinary. And James O'Brien said, this is what happens when you elect Nigel Farraage fans. So just have a listen Here he is on LBC. Trust me, this is very special. I don't understand the Constitution. I don't understand what standing orders are, what they're made up of Nor do I understand what an amendment is? There is a possibility that we might vote for something that we don't understand at the moment. I genuinely don't understand all the standing orders. I know you may be specifically talking about one specific thing frankly, our ignorance as new councillors This is I do not believe this is in any way democratic. Even if you were to slow down and describe it properly. You would be describing to us the course of action that Councillor Bolt and maybe others do wish to take. We don't understand the Constitution. we don't understand the standing orders. If you wish to proceed, then we can't stop you But do know that this will be seen by the Kirkle's constituents And we will make sure that it is understood by the Kirkle's constituents that we were not able to engage democratically. That's it. That's what happens When you elect Nigel Farge fans. they start complaining about the fact that they don't understand anything and therefore everybody else should be prevented from doing their elected duties. Wow stand up and say you don't understand a lot. Do you do that in your job? No, No, I do not. And other people I've seen there was one person who actually was a counselllor. I can't find the tweet now. but basically said they prepped, they learnnt, they read, they read up, you know, they trained themselves. they got themselves, It's like prepping for a job interview. You kind of have to arrive ready to hit the ground running. You have just stood for something you don't understand It's a bit like just putting your hand go give it a go. Yeah. And you haven't even understood the scale of what you are putting yourself forward for. The responsibility is on you. It is on you to learn that. It is not on the people around you who have made it their business to know their job function and their job role.. it's on them to slow down for you Like these people I'm sorry I'm very irate again. Pathetic, entitled Stupid Stupid so out. be there because of reform because they wear a reform bloodied rosette So out of their depth. And then there's another one Reformer notot Your friends posted. There's a newly elected councselor in S Helenss. She campaigned on tackling antis social behavior, making people feel safer despite having been convicted of assault four months before. So this is Emma Beck, elected in Fatu Heath Ward. She was found guilty of assault after pushing a woman in her sixties to the floor outside a bar in Saint Helens's last year but the conviction wasn't raised during the campaign. So she's appealing that and reform have said, well, they'll wait for the outcome. So this is now the third newly elected reform councillor in Merseyside to face serious questions since polling day. Yeah. It's a shambles. And not only that, but when the reform councillors are in and they are reform held councils It is shocking what is happening. There was a video. In fact, I'm going to play it. It's what happens when reform takes over your local councils. It was posted by the Reverend Anton Mittens And the caption was, this is quite astonishing wast waterater treatment plan for Kent kicked aside to debate the Lord's prayers and national anthem by Reform Council in Kent Okay, so we've just spent seven hours in Kent County Council full Council and the Green Group was hoping to put forward a really pragmatic, sensible action plan to sort out Kent's really fragile infrastructure because We've got a real problem with wastewater treatment, We've got a real problem with water supply and we're building more houses and the climate is changing is addressing it. So we're sleepwalking into this water catastrophe in Kent and we need somebody to take some action. So it was a really sensible motion. It was eight point action plan for Kent. know We were getting really quite enthusiastic about it. We really worked hard. We cross party collaboration. We referred to offers, got the experts to give us the right advice, put it in the right wording Quite complicated, quite hard work, but worth it because this is about a key issue that matters to Camp residents. and what happened? it got sabotaged The for UK found some procedural excuse to defer it to the next meeting. so whilst we spent over an hour talking about whether we should or not have the Lord's prayer and whether we should or not sing the national anthem at the end of meetings, we did absolutely nothing about a really serious issue that affects Camp residents. and that is the theme here I'm a little bit cross about it because if you put the work in and try to stuff the residents of Kenton just a little bit to make their lives a little bit better, to get it. This is about ideology, it's about bigotry, it's about flag waving, it's about singing songs and stuff the residents of Kenton. it makes me cross afraid. so yeah. Wow, it really is all absolutely extraordinary. Okay, let's end this section with a clip from Stand up Charlie who just posted, I've got nothing against carpet fitters Fucking out lot of effort, isn't it Didn't think'd be like this. No I thought we'd just rock up by like ten, ten thirty in the morning. stop the boats that' take what forty five minutes an hour and We' be in the pub by lunch, but this is This is just ridiculous, I'm well out my depth here. I mean, what does that even mean Structural and economic issues in urban planning development Sounds woke. I only got my name on the ballot for a laugh, you know? Did't think I'd actually win. Got pissed with em mates he dared me too I haven't got a clue about any of this. I mean, I'm a carpet fitter What do I know about this? God C can't be asked, them might I just reside Yeah, they might just resign. I mean, they're going to findllow my old tweets soon enough anyway, so Today we'll attempt a feeat once thought impossible, overcoming high interest credit card debt. 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And please please, if you are vaguely interested in coming to see the troll live, then again, the dates are seventeenth of September in London at the Bloomsbury Theatre. That's a bigiggie. and then Manchester, the eleventh and twelfth of November. Tickets go on sale midday Friday and where can they find out? Oh well we'll put the link in the description on Friday of the actual podcast and then also on our Instagram stories Wonderful. Nice ye there, Gemma, nicely done. R is underrated, one hundred percent. I'm just reading the caption of this one, Gemma. It's got the word anus in it. Yes. It's one of the lyrics ones that I'm so fond of. This is Alfredino Carrera and essentially, this is what Manfred Mann said and he thinks it is A little early birdie gave my Anus curly whirly and asked me if I needed a ride littleittle learly bdy came by in this cur of wor and help me sponps Oh go. A little early birdie came up really well Do you wantan to read a nice little poem by Brian Bilston? 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