Jeremy Doku and World Cup Punditry

Ambition. That's what it is. Naked ambition.ises Yeah ye ye ye. we won't do that Hello and welcome to the drawl. We are literally the political equivalent of VAR, checking every clip so you don't have to. I'm Gemma Forte And I'm Marina Pk J Gemma Will done Nice little analogy there, very topical, very good. and your efforts are potentially more authentic than Nigel Farage's gettingetting into the World Cup spirit Last week apparently by posting a picture of himself supporting England which I'll tell you about in just a second of the first Gemmmer, Tell the Tolers what are we up to Tll rise this week Tour wise, we are going to be perspiring a lot, mainly. If you can hear any traffic noise, I cannot record this podcast today without the window open. so apologies. it's just That's the way it is. Right. Okay. so tol wise, please, please, please if you haven't listened to Tuesdays. It's one of my favorite ever I think Adam has put some funny, funny effects on it. You know, me, I like the silly bits Thisil a blacks back But obviously politically we're talking about Addy Bernam Maker field ye and all of that. Very serious matters It's a big week for the troll for four servings I mean That's how much is going on. So today, we're gonna be focusing on our thoughts about Star's departure and what it means and what the future may hold. But we've got football chiszel as well. And then we've got two more tols for you. So it's a Tuesday, Wednesday Thursday, Friday offering. Yeah, and later in the week, we're going be talking about all of the Rupert Lowe's report just just disinformation then amplified by the richest man in the world and how that plays out how that plays out in the streets of our country. And then Friday. We got an algae update. We got Yeahah Friday is fun. Friday is a fun episode. It's the algae update. It is Jadie Vance and Trump are at our just making absolute tits of themselves. We've got the beef between Trump and Maloney. It's all going on Friday. so make sure you come back for that Friday feeling. Oh, onene other heads up as well. We're on Facebook. It's only taken us nearly four years It's picking up quite nicely already. We've literally been there for a few days. So the t all podcast. We have a page now. I've just posted about Tuesday's episode over there. I'm in charge, so it'll be sporadic. But well done. And we'll pop the link to our Facebook new Facebook group in the description. Yes, we will indeed. Okay, so let's go back to Farage, pretending he's a massive lad becausecause technically he was supporting England only more accurately He was supporting England Seververal hairlines ago because he posted one of those photos that I think politicians like him keep in a folder marked relatable bloke because hundreds of people spotted it was Aldie It is so tragic. On that sort of politicians trying to be relatable. Do you remember the sort of horrific phase where Boris Johnson used to turn up for vote opportunities dressed as Dressed as a job, basically it was like politician role playay. Pb cosploy. It totally was. It was like, I don't know if you've ever been in Anne Sumers, but in there they have a section of outfits where you can You could be a waitress, you could be an air hostess, you could be all sorts of things. and then tell me more. I know nothing. I just happen to get it through on my Instagram accicles now I do. But Boris Johnson was like Anne Sumers politician. He'd turn up in a white coat and a hair net, you know, sex it in a lady or he'd be a builder Bob the five is builder. Oh God, Yeah I guess credit where it's due, right? Most football fans spend don know, four years waiting for the next World Cup. Nigel apparently just spends the same amount of time waiting to reuse the same photo. James O'Brien on LBC had some words. He could hardly believe it. Someone sent me a picture of Nigel Farris drinking a pint in a pub And I'm such a sweet summer child. when somebody suggested to me that it was exactly the same on exactly the same evening, wearing exactly the same shirt and drinking exactly the same pointint that he was photographed enjoying two years previously at the last Euros. I thought, now, someone's used AI Some someone's done a manipulation. someone's used Photoshop. There's no way Nigel Farage holds his own supporters in such absolute contempt that he thinks he can post a two year old picture to pretend he cares about the football. But that is indeed how much he hates his own supporters. There's a little bit of you that goes, o, is this some sort of three D chess Is he doing this because there's only one thing worse than being talked about and that's not being talked about? and it will upset all the right people and he' trying to he's trying to own the libs or he's trying to own the lefties. And I thought, I mean, I don't really care if it is because if you're so stupid and I'm sorry, but I am going to be using that word a bit more in the future. If you're so stupid that you're now lying to yourself about not caring that he's a liar Oh he's great. Yeah, really likes the football. He's drinking a pitepe and the picture two years old. that's how stupid he thinks you are that you either won't notice or when someone who cares about you tells you You won't care Yeah Yeah, he's had enough, isn't he And we've all enough. Yeah, we have we have stupidity. It's a difficult, it's a fine line, isn't it? You don't want to insult people who aren't educated or haven't had the same chances as you in life and this, that and the other. But I'm sorry, there's also sort of a very horrible inverted snobbery there. The idea that Anybody from anywhere should have more brain cells. to work out what is going on. So yes stupid And then he was pounding the streets as well of Makerfield and he wrote This is Nigel Fari wrote, The voters are telling me that Andy Burnham is using Makerfield as a stepping stone. Listen to this. Oh are, you' right, I'm fine. ye. Good. Good job you do it? Yeah, we're doing all right, aren't we? Yeah, We're doing all right. Have you been a voted yet? Yes, We voted last week Tk my grandaughter, out of all. Yep. I don't like us being used as a stepping stone Stepping stone Yeah Yeah to get to number Yeah Yeahah Why would you do that? We already had an MP, didn't we? Yeah Well, A you had an MP and a mayor.. So if he was to win, there's a two million quid. That's right. Cost of a by election. Ambition. That's what it is. That's right. Naked ambition. He's gone back on the promises to do. Yeah. Yeah. ye. we won't do that. All right Well do. Thank you Ambition. Irony Claxon Very good Yes, ambition. Now again, remind me how many times did did Michael Farge stand? Was it eight times before he got an MP position He has been on the European gravy train as an MEP for God knows how long Fucking hammers the EU and yet draws the EU pension. but no, that's not ambition, is it? It's dedication. There is a clip actually I almost put it in. He was having a little belly tickle with Nick Ferrari on LBC and he says and it was so He actually says, I do I do would genuinely think I am the only person that can leave the country right now. That's what he said. Oh God. Chris Doyles said, imagine an MP trying to do that as in using Makerfield as a stepping stone. He said, I mean, say for example, the MP for Clackton was trying to become a PM for example, There' murmurings around this five million, you know, It's not going away. It looks like it is a clear breach of rules just imagine present if that. Well, that wouldd be lovely. That doesn't happen in politics. You can do anything in politics. You might have suspensioned for six weeks. Fully paid, Gemma, fully paid. But Lindsey Hell will still stick up for you in Parliament. I won't have you saying that. Exactly.. Anyway, look, while we're here casually maligning the old Ballbag canan I say I really hope we have a new listener because somebody on Threads was asking, is there a podcast where people call Nigel Farj Dickhead? and I was thrilled to see a fair few of you piling in recommend the tri. Yes, you are welcome. That would be us. Come over here, come over here, safe space. We will say he's a dickhead. You don't guiss that on the rest of his politics. So I was absolutely thrilled about that. Chapppers's Delight, thank you very much. Petro. Celli, they are two particularly that I saw. so thank you very much for that In terms of our lovely listeners as well, Simon T, one of our Patreons I woke up this morning and he's already listened to Tuesday's podcast I'm getting confused now because it is now Tuesday recording for Wednesday.way much information, shut up. Simon said, Jim a loves a bit of relevant information. With regard to Sarah Poacin, who's in Tuesday's episode making some outrageous comments. He said She can't watch the World Cup and not want to see black and brown people on Telly because you can't have it both ways. And I just thought Great comment I wish I thought of that. . Very, very good. And look for those of you who do tune in to hear us being rude about Farraage, we think you're going to love the following clips. So it is a wonderful montage of his introductions onto his all too regular spot Qion time. posted by Dyson Stewart with a caption Tonight. Welcome toQuestion Time On the panel, Nigel Farage, leader of Reform UK, who is also MP for Cltain, controversial Reform UK Party leader Nigel Farage Nigel Farraage, the toad faced MP and Reform UK leader, Human Toby Jug and genereral shitstr Nigel Farage, and finally Nigel Farage, National asshole and leader of Reform UK We just know that is a count bin face production There go, give him his fourours. Wonderful. Camp Binface, of course, stood in Makerfield, got some wonderful interviews afterwards as well I love this country sometimes. I've been on his podcast. That was really surreal. I went on his podcast C been faceive ages ago maybe a couple years ago and he does rock up in full bin face Well, when I went on his podcast, he didn't have his bin to hand, so I wasn't allowed to see him So I just I just only heard him audio wise. Dick he's really fit? So't know, maybe. Well never know, babes N had come it like Cark again, isn't it Yeah, you never know. I read this thread the other day. Male listeners don't take any offense of this, but it just really made me laugh Patrick Will wrote What if Lois Lane was never fooled by Superman's shoddy disguise? prettended for his sake because the male ego is so fucking fragile. We love our male listeners, o. Okay, So she's not saying Talking about villainons like Trumphazive hees Iose we're going to get to the mia politics bit soon. but first, just a little bit more football stuff, because in stark contrast to Farage's terrible fake football fan efforts There has been so much joy derived from the World Cup already. And we absolutely loved Ian Wright saying what we all think about Trump's America's handling of the whole thing I'll say bro just read. the Somalian referee. The Somalian referee has been denied entry. Every few hours It's another story. anotherother story about fans denied, players denied, officials denied Journalists denied. Now refs You knows I mean, I'm laughing, but it's not funny. It's actually not funny and something has to be said. It's expensive tickets, the most expensive tickets ever. Expensive accommodation, transport through the roof. It has to be said, you know, Is this how the hosts behave really for the greatest game? The greatest tournament in the world. Is this how the hosts behave? Are we not hearing more? Hre we seen our guitar got dragged? Are we not hearing more Is this the spirit of football? Really? You know what I feel for I feel for the American fans who are desperate for this. American soccer fans who are desperate for this, how embarrassed they must be. How embarrassing for them this must be. is you know what? This is the World Cup. This is a World Cup of chaos Whoever wins this World Cup iss gonna have to go through some serious serious chaos to get this done. I hope we can do it, but something has to be said. this is just like This is the World Cup. I love Ian, right? I do. It's not World Cup spirit though is it? It's unfettered greed and unfettered capitalism. I did see actually they're going to pay. FIF are gonna to pay that that Samalanian referee his name is Omar Artan. they're going to pay him his full fee. I mean, absolutely bloody right, but he doesn't want it. He's like, I don't want my fee I want to be in the World Cup The fact that he was just not allowed to pursue that live stream is absolutely disgusting. Yeah, that is completely terrible. I've got a sort of I don't know if it's quite an apology, but I love our listeners so much. And on Spotify, I noticed that I'd upset might be a little strong, but somebody called Vicki Nicholson, Hello Vicki was a bit pissed off with an episode last week where I read out a tweet in Dreadful Scottish accent. I mean, to be fair you encourage me, Marina, you told me to do it. I'll take the b you. Yeah, it's hard fult Vicky. And I really, really bched it. And I think Vicky just thought o come on, you don't talk about Scotland much and then you do that. But she also wrote the point so nicely and so politely and was like, I really love the traraw and I tell loads of my pals and da, d da. And I You see, Vicky, I was awake one night head ceiling here going I really like I've let myself down I was disappointed in myself. So, you know what I've doneself down, you let me down, you let the Scottish people down J. I've let the podcast down I'm not angry, I'm disappoint Exactly is so much worse. It's so much worse, polite disappointment, Vicky. it killed me So I thought, what can I do? So I told Because it's the only thing I know how to do Vicky? is the only was another accident there. I'm sorry sorry, whoever that is And this is what I want you to know this is if I do do random accent speaking Pindus accent. Paullly, It's a sort of illness and I can't help it, but I don't mean to insult wes of people doing it. It doesn't mean I don't love the people. Right. So the point is, I found this and I think it makes up Debah Roby said Thousands of Scottish soccer fans showed their appreciation in a special way during the twenty twenty six World Cup Known as the Tartan Army, the supporters travelled to the United States to cheer on Scotland. However, many discovered that hotel prices near Gillette Stadium were far too expensive So instead of staying there, many fans chose to stay in Providence, Rhode Island There they received a warm welcome from local residents, officials, police officers, firefighters, and members of the Providence Tartan Army, a local group that helps visitors find affordable places to stay. The kindness shown by the city made a strong impression on the Scottish fans And after their one nill victory over Haiti on june thirteenth, organizer David Hood announced that the supporters wanted to give something back to the community. Fans raised nearly thirty thousand dollars for several good causes. They pledged ten thousand dollars to the cancer unit at Hasborough Children's Hospital Another ten thousand was donated to a youth soccer program that supports underprivileged children in Rhode Island. and in addition, six and a fivealf thousand dollars was given to Craig Ferguson, who'd walked from Los Angeles to Boston to raise money for Scottish mental health services The donation checks were scheduled to be presented during the Tartan Army Downtown March and Music Festival on june eighteenth It began as a search for affordable accommodation turned into a story of friendship and gratitude Scottish fans not only supported their national team, but found a way to thank a city that welcomed them with open arms, leaving a positive impact on the local community. I hope that makes up for what I had reduced the Tartan army to before, which basically sounded like a bunch of his heads with a Scottish accent because it simply is not true Miller drgs. They also dropp millions on the local economy, hotels, restaurants, bars, shopping, etc. and T Margo seventy three always raise money for and donate to charities. They've been doing it since two thousand three and fat Sam meow and they cleaned up parks after party so nice cudos to the Scottish fans. Also I'm going to just say cdos to the Japan fans as well Japanese fans tidying up their stadium mess before they go. That level of respect I could do that at my own house. That wouldll be nice. All right, let's wrap up this section with this last little post from Michaala McGrady, who said The World Cup has made me realize how actually united we are as humans can be. Why are we fighting wars for wealthy men when we could be singing each other's national anthems with our arms around one another Inh potato Let's get into it. It was a big intro, it was big build upp, wasn't it? Now we're going to talk about Kiss It's called Wanging on Marina. It's called Wanging on. sorry. Kiss ara Resigned. how do we feel about it? I'm going to say I was a mixed bag of emotion It just represented for me sort of a dashed hopax dashed hopes. How could you sort of win such a landslide Aittedly that the Tories had no And it was n to win How could you win with such a landslide and then not even in two years I've lost so much public support And I ask this as a rhetorical question But for me, it's a combination of hostile as heail press own goals and mistakes thatpend depending on where you are, you could be on the left, you could be on the right, far, left, far right. you will have Probably for many of you There will be a redline that he would cross for you. And there be people listening here today thinking this is Cooling Wh why is he gone? Prie mininisters should be left to like finish out their term. He was on a roll, he was doing good things. And yeah, there is that nuance here. There is that nuance here. So it's not an easy one. All I know is likeike can absolutely bell cheese did well up at the end when he'd welled up. and start talking about the job that he's going to do with his you know, as a dad. and as a husband I don't know why. I think I was the same with Theeresason May. It's just a bit weird like that Me too. And when I leave the biggest job in the country I shall spend more time on the most important job Be the best husband I can too my fantastic wife Vick who has been a rock by my side through good times and bad and being the best dad I can. to my beautiful children, whoo are my pride and my joy Thank you very much. I didn't cry. I know it wasn't a resignation, but I didn't cry when soon I stood at the podium and it pissed down with rain. That I laughed. I didn't have to cry. The clouds were crying. wereeren't they all over him all over his suit But yeah, I felt a bit of a lump in my throat as well and I felt a sort of sense of frustration, exhaustion, I felt a bit drained I just'm very worried as well because I think Andy Berham's great But the idea that he's going to stroll into that job and find it any easier is not necessarily realistic. What about the idea, Gemma, that he strolls into that job doesn't fuck off as many people, doesn't make so many mistakes, doesn't score so many own goals Yeah, I hope so, but you have to remember that we are now living in a country where pretty much any prime Minister is going to find it hard to survive So if Kir Stammer had been the prime minister twenty years ago, he would have probably been remembered as one of the best. The fact of the matter is Hey There is a long Well, he's only had two years and the green shoots of what that government are putting in place are starting to show now when you rattle off the list of achievements, it goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and ticking off manifesto pledge after manifesto pledge Now for us, we've talked about it, Adam Finitem on this podcast. We have cried on this podcast about Palestine. We have been horrified. We have lain awake at night, having seen clips of the atrocities there. For me, certainly, like I need Andy Burnham to come out and show his cols on that because there's a lot of misgiving about is he too a friend of Israel and is he going to be the same? And then I think he will just divide the left I know there are so many people. I spoke to many myself and I've seen all over social media, people just going, This is ridiculous. This is ridiculous. This is a result. right wing media and perhaps MP sort of just being led by looking at constantly looking at social media And it's vicious out there. It's absolutely vicious. And personally, something I'm sick of is a lack of pragmatism and a lack of nuance. Now paid to have opinions and know what Andy Burnham's going to be like Yeahet. How does anybody know? And I' I had a pound of everybody that sent me a thing going because I was sort of like so thrilled that he won Makerfield, of course I'm thrilled. That's a tangible victory against reform. So I'm very pleased about that. And I had people going He's not Umessiah. He's not Umessiah. That's obviously the new trope. And I was like, where did I say he was A I am not religious. B, I just think he's a bloke from Manchester and I don't know if he's going to cut it yet or not. I don't know. I hope so. I think he's potentially going to be way more popular than Kama and cut through more. But we can't have this happen again If Labour do this again, it is curtains and I do think reform will get in. One thing you said there, which struck me is actually the irony of you saying This is down to MPs, for example, looking at the press and deciding actually he can't be he can't be Prime Minister because of the way he's perceived and the fact that under him labour just aren't going to win they were just doing terribly in the polls. But isn't the irony there that Kiss arma, in my opinion Part of his downfall was that he kind of governed by focus group, governed by what's in the opinion polls, what's in the right wing press, governed by what do Farraage reform voters need to hear. And that for me led to him being a little bit a man without principle bit of a weather vein of a man. L he was so reliant on Morgan McSweeney, so reliant and why was that becausecause again, I think still to this day we don't know who the real kissed armor is. because of those pledges that were abandoned becausecause of then, you know, this man who is supposed to be this, you know, the thing he was USP, what was sold he was sold into us is this human rights lawyer who when faced with a human rights Violation of an industrial scale You know, human rights catastrophe work decided with who with who I guess my point is that The trouble is if you don't have Stamarin, who have you got And the idea that any of the other parties who are electable would have been any kinder on Palestine is for the birds, but then they would have been actually worse in terms of supporting Trump, for instance. Dragging us into the Arana I'm going to tell you something interesting though. There's a guy called Luke Trill. So he's from an organization called M in Common, and he does a lot of research. And he's basically saying the vast majority of Brits really no idea about Palestine. And I think we are in a very left wing feeling bubble. and I know those marches are huge, but I think people forget there are seventy million people in this country and everybody thinks that their opinion is the only one and the only thing that matters. There are millions of people who I like, oh yeah, that looks awful. B sides or it it's terrible. I wish I'd stop doesn't look great. They don't really know the ins and outs invested in the way that we are and just assume it's this sort of far away awful tension in the Middle East that hass been going on since the beginning of time. And what they're bothered about is, you know, their journey to work, the fact they can't afford their gas bill You know, if you've got someone who is on two thousand two and a half grand a month and then they're paying nine hundred pounds rent and then the rest in bills. Buta, some those people will say that they that he failed them too. Someone will have beef with a winter fuel. someomeone will have beef. Don't forget the national insurance rises. Yes. That hit absolutely everyone after they said they wouldn't tax working people I think that's the point I'm trying to make is you've got People like us Palestine's the red line. You've got other people who like haven't got a clue about it, but they just feel skinn and absolutely hate him. Then you got, I saw someone on Instagram from some sort of Botox clinic and she was just like, goodbye, so here, you know you're getting to the point where I make so much money, but I might as well just give you give the HMRC half my Dinner Ebody attack, attack, attack, attack, attack. But there are also millions of people and you can see them, especially on threads actually where they're just like He's raised the national living wage, he's strengthened workers's rights. He's introduced statutory sick pay from day one of thing, brought rail operators back into public service, he's raised the state pension through the triple lock. He's scrapping on Doms, he's added that to private school fees, He's removed business rates, relief from private schools. He's helped bring knife crime down There's the lowest homicide rate since the seventies. He's created a national wealth fund. He's created Great British Eergy. This is in two years. He's improved relations with the EU and moved closer to them. He's been dealing with Ukraine really well. He's been warding off Trump I mean, this that job job. gettinget up and doing that Yes, Andy Burnham, to me you're a better communicator. B communicator, but good luck. because And I think this is the disconnect between Kam and what he's actually been doing every day and his atrocious coms and advice and strategy And I think that was just about to improve, but he's gone. He's gone. He's gone. Also Rachel Reeves has kept the markets stable And I agree about the NI, although there's some conjecture that wasn't her bloody idea. I think that was shit on business. and there's always going to be terrible decisions. But on the whole, if you think what we suffered Johnson and Trah, I just read out that list. There's way more on that list, things that they have done and achieved. When Johnson left, he'd been there for ages and he said I got the COVID jab quickly and I supported Ukraine. That was it. Brexit done, Jerm I don't forget that one. G Brexit done? Brexit. My sister, who knows about these things, she works in behavior change and she's you know, done all sorts of work particularly children's health. She's like this governor has done more for children in the last two years than the previous fifteen years. I know. and I'm filled with cognitive dissonance I am Let's imagine, Gemma. let's imagine that carried on current trajectory and we found ourselves before an election.. people still hated him. In fact, they hated him more because of more stuff. and we had this th of reform That's the only reason I go. This could be a life belelt. Yes. But I'm really worried. I'm really worried Andy Burnham You have a what is currently kind of a clean slate and it's yours to fuck up. He's already, I thought it was slightly odd. There were MPs posting pictures with him at the front, like he's already the prime Minister sort of celebrating. And I thought, no too soon It's not called chill your boots, be more dignified, brring the party together. That's one thing I'm going to give Stara credit for as well. Like he bowed out with quite a lot of grace and it's like chill your boots. I also and by the way, I really want him to do well. But when Andy Burnham tweeted about Kir Stahmer's departure. I thought this was icky. He said Kir has given huge service to our country and I want to thank him for his leadership and dedication He Y're not Primeinister yet. Oh yeah That was a bit precocious, wasn't it? It's a bit precocious and I understand he's achieved a great win, but like chill your boots. He's had too many ros, I reckon I say that Yeah. And he's going to get the same media onslaught. And now what we're going to have as well is every Bellnd saying that he doesn't have a manday and we have a general election. We'll be on Jeremy Fine arguing that. I don't care. That one I geninely don't care. I'm fine. I'm like you can especially I was up against Jake Berry who who was saying that Jake Berry, who was a Tory, who went to reform. I was like, really I would laugh in your face if you as a Tory say that to me. So I've got no qualms with that whatsoever. I'm just going to quote Ian Dunt again because again, I just love his pieces But he doesn't come across necessarily as always the most optimistic person. and yet he is optimistic about this.es. He's saying that we as people who have voted labor before, will be cynical because we've been so let down, right? But politics is the art of the possible. and right now it can go one of two ways Why not in this moment, Gemma be optimistic. Okay, yeah, and usually I am, on't I? I think I'm burnt out from all of it. You are, but Jemma was woken up by the storm. If you're in London, basically Monday night it was a massive storm And I think you're it yeah. it's probably impacting your optimism, I' imagine. Do you think I'm on a negative bias? Yeah. And also I am also seeing numerous people just go goodbye, Saras seea, you fasted, you know, so I get it's like I'm not saying I represent everybody's views. I am almost saying I don't have one I'm just and I'm kind of like okay with that. I'm just, Emma, you what? Are you okay? You don't have a view. just Pragmatism That's what I've decided I'm a fan of. and I'm a bit bored with everybody telling me what they think and being like, but that is it Andy Bowen well fail. Starmer is terrible. There's I right G, can we just wait and see? You know what? we are now? I think we all should agree or at least if you know, the people who are going to vote Labor are happy with this move that this is our bed We have made it Yeah, and we have to lie in it now. one hundred percent you're right, you're right, We cannot fight this up again. No more regiside in the Labour partarty. No, can't, it can't happen. So quite interesting. West Streetings's come out in support of Burnham. so he's obviously not running. We think he might be angling to be Chancellor of the Exchquker. Angela Rayner. Yeah, Ed Miliband as well, looking to be Chancellor, I think. Oh yeah, I'd quite like him to stay doing climate I like on climate and keeping her powder dry Z that Plantansky pissed me off. Oh? as well, because I think there are moments in politics. It's like I even gave Bloody Kemmy Badenock, a bit of cudos a few weeks ago, where there was a moment in the news that was so sad and horrible and she actually was quite gracious and sort of agreed with Starma. and it was just like, yeah There are moments, just be polite. And Zach Plansky went onto all his platforms and put bills up, wages too low, record profits for oil and gas Sit in our rivers, penschion his jail for protesting. that one I give him. migrants thrown under the bus, supporting a genocide again, that one I give him That's Starmer's legacy. Migrants th thrown under a bus is also his legacy. Yes, as he changed the rules around, you, when people get indefitely to remain, for what reason to appease Fraage voters? Yes. so there are definitely points there, but don't you think that sometimes it's allright just to say does not attack all the time. There were loads of people under him. He's not He's not a bystander like us. He iss trying to win. He wants to win at the next election. Of course he's not going to say well done. W done Starw. Don't worry. He's got three years to be vicious. I am saying it is one bloody day, Marina. And it's boring. It's actually boring. and it's a turnoff And so if he wants to win Just pick your moments, pick your battles, Someone called Christ R comeome on better than this. Was Starmer progressive enough? No. Did he get everything right? No. But at least he was a mature, thoughtful adult prime minister in a crazy time. The billionaire owned media have got their way. Let's focus on influencing policy in a positive progressive way and not becoming the reform of the left. We're better than that. Yeah And Kiwi's life wrote, I am green as f You can't pin this all on a labour government given a shit sandwich and improved in some places and made it worse in others. Unfortunately for the Greens, we are still incapable of winning a general election, So shouldn't wish for one This country is bought and paid for by the right wing media Anco Even if Labor did good by us, Kir and whoever is next will still be labeled as the worst of all time That is correct. Yeah. And Emma K sixty seven, That's Ema Kennedy. She's furious about it. all. She was on thread saying Sky News already peddling the fact Berham wasn't an MP at the last election and can't claim a mandate. I am shook Again, I'm not worried about that. I would laugh at anyone who suggests that we need a general election No yeah So there we go. It's a bit of a shit sandwich, but it's going to be very interesting. And we'll see. I got a text this morning from a friend, Christine. She lives in Portugal. She's keeping a keen eye on everything. and she just said, I really hope Burnham isn't a fucking Israeli tol. Manchester loves him. She used to live in Manchester. Let's hope he doesn't get carried away with his own legacy. really really, really want him to be good Don't you right? For those of you who can't stand Starmer who've been screaming at me for the last twenty minutes got a clip that you'll probably enjoy. No justustice MTG said StAMmer resignation highlights. My My dad was a toolmaker. My dad was a toolmaker, toolmaker, toolmaker, toolmaker. toall maker, toolmaker, toolmaker, Tolmaker. toallmaker, tech bo My brother, Mr Speaker, I am a gouner Pitm Hello. The return of the sausages. I don't want labour MPs on picket lines. I will restore standards in public life with a total crackdown on cronyism. And I have confidence in the ammbassador in the role that he is doing. A siege is appropriate, cutting off power, cutting off water. I think that Israel does have that right. He is gaslighting the nation. So let's call this out for what it is. The Prime Minister is a bare faced liar and if you had ind know no or. Well I am telling you now and I hope this goes out You have failed this country. and you' expelled a witch hunter in the most vicious way I've ever seen in my lifetime. I say the door is open and you can leave Okay, can I go back to the football just for a moment, Gemma? Yes, becausecause something about the Fever World Cup has caught Mine are let's say our attention. Oh, what the Nigerian goalkeeper actually wasn't going to be that. Have you seen him? Oh I'm just who is me . ridiculous. His name is Medua Akoye And he's uniting women gaze probably making men just question themselves worldwide. he looks he looks he looks AI. Yeah, he looks AI. look I did think he was AI. Someone called Caroline Be for Texas wrote God bless his mother and father for getting together. And Michelle Verage wrote, My daily prayers now have a visual reference. He is incredibly beautiful. Anyway, that wasn't what we were talking about. Although actually so just another point, who else? There's lots of very beautiful people in the World Cup. And the Iranian football team Lots of very, very pretty, pretty people in that team and Pistachio wrote The US didn't want to let the Iranian football team in the country because they were afraid all the women would leave with them I mean, I amm totally watching the football skills, obviously, the Tackers and of course Emma Hayes Yes, Emma Hayes. Now she is a football manager who has found herself at the centre of a sexism row. and I have to say, I thought it was pretty unbelievable. Anyway, you're going to hear now on Sky News, Leah Bito and Amanda ACas discussing the row. There's been a lot of noise about Emma Hayes. It's probably taken over the conversation around ITVs coverage. Two things are happening at once here online. Everyone's agreeing that she's been the best pundit completely in this tournament. She's genuinely sharp, but also a separate row has broken out about ITV essentially sticking her in front of what looked like. kitchen set with a school chalkball. And so people have been talking about whether this is the right set And there's been conversations about misogyny around it. It' mad, isn't it? I mean, I quite liked her chalkboard. I thought she was so clear and so direct she kind of explained her point really well from there and I hadn't thought that looked like a kitchen at all. So in a way, I mean to me it seems quite sexist that someone must see that and think it looks like she's in a kitchen, but then clearly other people are saying they think the setup wasn't entirely appropriate. but really silly memes online like an ironing board next to her, piles of washing. So I think the conversation in itself turned misogynistic back off Emma Hayes,'s a national Treasure. She's absolutely incredible. Yeah, very depressing, but I think yeah, you know, more of her more of her blackboard. Yeah There were so many men under that clip going Who said she's the best pundit? off course there were J, I think she's brilliant. Lots of people are saying she's brilliant, in fact, Ben said he's really enjoying her little she does little takes during the ad breaks Of course her buddy breaks, hydration breaks. And she basically does what she thinks the managers would say to the players in those moments if they had that two minutes with them, which I think people are finding really interesting and people are really learning from her Yeah, yeah, a lot of comments, EmaJ wearing, I'm learning more about football from Ea Haze and these hydration breaks. and I have many of the male commentators like ever. But I don't think that should be the point. I don't think it should be like a battle of the sexes. but Having said that Why have they put her in a kitchen? And if you look at the actual set, I'm sorry, it is it is a kitchen There's no getting away from it. It's not even a nice kitchen.'s not even a modern kitchen. It's a an old country kitchen. from like the nineteen nineties. When have you ever seen a football pundit standing in front of a set that has drawers You've got kitchen drawers. I feel like there's nice and forks in there and sort of seller tape and Is sure like some washing hanging in the background. Yeah I mean, what are they doing? What are they doing? all the sets I don't know somebody tried to sort of stick up for it. Goobsky said It's an open plan apartment they've rented. She'd look more weird in a separate room on her own than off to the side While the woman in the kitchen visual perception isn't ideal, I don't think it's deliberate. Well, sorry, it looks bloody stupid. It's got like a kitchen worktop It does Yeah it's not thes a weird weird weird things going on this World Cup. Did you see as well the comments on the on the Belgiian World Cup winger hisis name is Jeremy Docu and he's decided to leave the World Cup to go and fly home to be there for the birth of his first child. Did you see this? No. Okay, because listen it was uprow because I think it's a really lovely wonderful decision, good far in the making. but there's a presenter. Her name is Frane Pieron. Hm Her name and she's faced a backlash because she said There are hundreds of footballers who' killed me in your shoes. It might never happen in your life. You're living out a childhood dream,et you're going to walk away from it all to attend the birth of your child. a disgusting moment if you'll pardon the expression where the dad is completely useless ing moment. What happening? I know, I know. I'm wondering why that's like a nitural translation that's gone wrong so why don't say that to him? Yeah It's his decision to make. And also people forget like it's very dangerous having a kid Very dangerous for both mother and baby I think it's more important that he's there actually. So toine also, it's not disgusting, it's beautiful. It's beautiful and it's boonding and what the hell? And I just feel sorry for the guy that there's such a bad diary clash. I feel like that is just absolutely gutting. Yeah, it's terrible. You'd be guuted. He to be honest, you should have thought about that when you should have had before they. They should have had that in the calendar. This is blackout period. Yeah Not sponsored by Durx that one.. Right, We're going into underrated now and I found this clip. this is old, okay. So this happened during the Euros in twenty twenty four, but I just thought it was so impressive. So this guy, you might have heard it. He's a Belgian footballer, Amadu Oana. He's at the time is like a twenty four year old defensive midfielder, playing for Aston Villa and the Belgium national team. Now he's known for his flawless multililingualism as well as his incredible football And I just love how he switches in this moment from French to South London. don't do the much M do. Cibut If you getess you do, if you getess you do.able Yeah k. Andre is not even my name, mate You know what I mean? Gone. Wonderful Wonder be so good. bothoth languages. like the accent I mean, I'm sure loads of people are, but it's just there's something quite harsh about it. I'm all here for the multilingualism. Yeah, fuckirl problems were like from south of France to South London. It was absolute accent whiplash as it said over that clip. It's so funny. And three lions Dressarage said, beinging fluent in more than one language is a serious flex. sounding absolutely gorgeous in both is otherworldly.'s true Indeed, Last one and this one is just I know we've got American listeners, but sometimes these Americans, they just think the world just revolves around them. So basically the Norwegians they do this thing. the Norwegian fans when they're in the stadium and they do the rowing. So you imagine like swathes of fz. They orered this rowing sort of motion together and it's pretty impressive when you see and there was an aerial view of it Ian Minner, American, says, I don't know. Maybe the US should just host every World Cup because he was so impressed at what the fans were doing. And Kya wrote Norwegians doing their rowing thing in a stadium. Americans This must be because of us. Right, we have some pudding jemmer Yes, we will, and then we'll be back tomorrow and also on Friday. But pudding is we haven' been adding for a while, mrter Cody Dahler And he said, technically, technically, technically, this is some of the best prime mininistering the nation of Great Britain has ever received from an ever changing Prime Minister Kir Stahmer who's so committed to change He's willing to change himself to change things. Hi Kir, I've just got off the train to London. I'll be in the office in ten. I will resign leader of the Labour Party. What the fuck do you mean you've resigned? Well, you said you'd stand in a leadership election on Friday, so I went away for the weekend. If there is a contest, just to be clear with you, then yes I will run. Forgive me for thinking that a man who historically takes about thirteen years to make a single decision might take longer than three seconds to decide if he's gonna to resign or not. This is a fucking disaster. No, it isn't. Here, I once shot myself while testing out sofa beds in a John Lewis and felt less embarrassment than I do right now. Tell me how this is not a disaster. Because you campaigned on a message of change and you've now delivered the ultimate change by changing yourself. You know, I actually don't hate that. Okayy, okay, I'm liking this. So you haven't resigned. You're simply delivering on your program of change, which makes your resignation this morning the most successful change this country' ever seen, which technically makes you a brilliant prime minister. So when Andy Bernam becomes Prime Minister and starts changing things, you can technically take credit for that change because he's only been able to change it because you changed yourself to begin with. That's brilliant. So what you're saying here is that you're technically going to be prrime Minister till the end of time. Fantastic