Underrated Segment and Final Thoughts

So much content, Marina Perkis. We could do about eighty five draws this week. Right , let's go. And this country will reject everything stand for and people like me will never , never allow your bigotry to take hold in this company . Hello and welcome to the Trawl where we try and fail to keep up with the news cycle so hard sometimes our phones have to come to the toilet with us. I'm Gemma Forte and I'm Rena Perkers. Is it just sometimes? Is it every time ? I've been galloo ed. It's all happening trawlers and today is historic . Firstly in political terms because well that time of record it's Monday. It's quite unusual for us, but we hopped on because the Prime Minister kissed Armour. He took to his podium, didn't he? Stood outside number ten and he resigned and we've got lots of thoughts on that. And we may share that with you. And we're trying to keep up with this week's head line, but doing so is a bit like, you know, like going around the supermarket, like doing a trolley dash, like a supermarket sweet style trolley dash and keep going, oh, we'll put that one in. And we need to put that in. Oh, I forgot about that. That's what it feels like trying to keep on top of the troll this week. There's just so many things . And every time we finish with the running order, then something else happens and somebody else declares it's the biggest political moment since the last big political moment and that was all about twenty minutes ago. So we're doing our best. Please bear with us. I know. It's absolutely bonkers. We're trying to make it sound spontaneous. It isn't. There's absolutely nothing spontaneous about this podcast because we have to find the clip s and put them in an order and all of that and try and find some time to try to find some kids full time jobs, etc, et cetera. Anyway, whatever, we're here. It's all happening. But look, this is how it's going to go. Okay. So today we are going to go back to Maker Field and we're going to look at everything that has happened, which has led us to this point because apart from anything else, we have to laugh at reform altogether and take the piss . Yes. We do the lows, trawlers, we do the lows. We've got to take the highs. Okay , we've got to laugh like ha ck that kid from the Simpsons . Exactly. And then tomorrow Wednesday , our usual episode comes out, and that's the bit where we'll get to the point where Starmer has resigned . But because it's the trouble, we'll also be bunging in some football related bits. I think we've got some Royal chisel today as well. Anything that's caught our attention . So that's enough of all of that . Let's get on with it Are you sitting comfortably trawlers? Then we'll begin. Once upon a time, there was an upcoming by election in a land called Makerfield , which is in Wigan . That's in Greater Manchester . Anyone who isn't profoundly right wing or racist was nervous about the result that was happening in this by election because rightly or wrongly it wasn't any old by election instead it had become a contest, a duel if you like , between the Labour Party and Nigel fucking frog face farrage . And due to the fact that the good people of this land, Make a field and indeed a majority of Brits had once voted to leave the European Union, which was akin to voting to kicking its own head in , plus adding the fact that we have seen the United States voting to creepy, lying, corrupt old grimo for the second time , and having existed in a world where a few people, admittedly, not that many, thought that Liz Truss seemed like a sensible option, it was understandable that the good people of Blighty felt a sense of trepidation, as the people of Makerfield headed to vote . But they needn't have worried . Andy Burnham smashed it. Oh smashed it. Get in my gosh. Oh my gosh. So on the morning, Jerem,a what the hell was going on by the way? Because I got a message from Jeff at five AM. Yeah. What were you doing up at five AM? I was just coming in mate. That's a lie. I had gone to my parents in Dorset for a couple of nights and I'd gone to bed fairly early. They were like, You gonna stay up? And I was like, No, I am a hell . But the political weirdo inside me woke me up bolt upright, even though I had my you've seen it, my amazing black satin eye mask on, which means I sleep for a thousand years in the morning . I woke up nevertheless like that and looked and went Ooh , and then spent a really satisfying hour and a half pie eyed. I'm asked of course you can't see a thing with that on having a look at the result and then went back to sleep. How about you, babes? Yes. We need not have worried . And the people of Maker feel, I'm sorry if I ever doubted you. You showed up. You did what you needed to do. And that's the thing. They did what they needed to do . If you think at the local elections, it was a huge reform majority . And yet they were able to coalesce around Burnham and go, No, thank you, no, thank you for Varage. Ah, we love you for that. Of course, the repercussions of this are that it has led to Starmer's resignation yesterday when this goes out. And many of you will be thinking , you know, you'd prefer him to stay. Many of you may be preferring a bit of continuity rather than starting a fresh bet at the devil you know . Or maybe you have some sympathy. I think Jimmy and I have been a bit of a bag of mixed emotions with me, haven't we? Definitely and we'll go into more about how we feel about it all tomorrow. Yeah, but it has been a very strange day in many regards . Yeah. Mr. J. Braddy said, Sorry, but I honestly don't think Starmer can win the next general election. Been actively helping labour for four years. So this gives me no pleasure to admit , leadership is about a clear vision and inspiring the team, organisation, country, etc to march in that direction. He just hasn't ever articulated and executed one or built a team that can. He's a decent talent ed man, good internationally , but the public have locked him in their minds as a bit mess in an attention economy that's lethal and irreversible. I mean, there are so many takes, there's so much opinion and we are going to save up our discussions for tomorrow because there's genuinely too much to get through. So please tune in tomorrow. We've got so much to say. We're excited to talk about it and I've got a lot I want to get off my chest and get it off at my boobies. Take your bra off . I'm not talking about my boobies, although in this weather I would love to be able to take them off. If you could just unscrew them for a bit, I'll have that because it'll be hot. Carrying them around here, that'd be nice. Ladies, I'm sure you all sympathize . Anyway, look, if you are one of our listeners who thinks that the toppling of starmer feels really toory and really bloody, exhausting , fine. We here, right? And there then'll be others of you that are like good riddance, can't sound is it? And that's what we'll go into tomorrow . But can we please today in this moment all collectively agree and come together and be united just admit that it is a huge frigging relief and calls for almighty celebration that on a micro level a sexist length like Robert Frigging Kenyan will not be to encouraging reform or having anything to do with lawmaking because Bernam totally troused him . Do you know what? There was a part of me thinking maybe we never need to see that little prick ever again. But then I thought, Well Zi Yusuf. He's not elected. He's nothing. He just parades about on all sorts of media arounds, calls himself the shadow, whatever it is. So maybe Robert Kenyan not gone for good? I don't think so. I think Robert Kenyan's sort of swift foray into politics has probably come to an end. I've never seen anyone looks out of their depths and uncomfortable . I don't think anyone else is going to be going for little trips in his van. Did you see some of Brothman was there? Oh she did. And I don't think anybody's going to be asking him to write his memoirs about his time in politics either because he's stilling struggl to remember what he was told to say on question time three weeks ago. Oh so how's it going to be going back to plumbing? Do you reckon he's going to get more, more jobs or fewer? Because I reckon the ladies of Makerfield are Ian Dunn did a really good piece on this. He was saying women voters are actually hurting reform a lot. Because you remember, we've got this now, Robert Kenyan, and women are going, No, thank you, no, thank you very much. I'd rather have a career politician than a sexist. And then we go back to Gordon and Denton. Do you remember? Because it was good win. It was a good win with his remarks about, you know, women should be told, girls should be told, in fact, about when to start having babies. And Ian Dung is such a brilliant bit on it. He said . This is the second time that women specifically have played a key role in hurting reform. In Gordon and Denton, comments from Goodwin emerged in which he thought we should explain to young girls and women the biological reality of when they should have kids to deal with population decline. This was self defeating because the idea of having Goodwin explain reproduction to you would make most women instantly infertile thereby cratering British birth rates even further . Whenever I think about we had ages ago. It was really funny and I think it was an underrated and you had the window sound, you know when your computer shuts down . Yeah it.' Ands like when a wom an hears comments by Matt Goodman on fertility and everything duh duh, dun dun 's play, let's play it. Okay, so imagine, here's Matt Goodman. He's saying that girls, he needs to know that a reality about your reproductive system . Well, here comes Robert Kenyon. You're all slags . Anyway, the wonderful thing is we haven't seen much of Farage because there's not much to crow about, but there has been an awful lot of pontification about how he may or may not be feeling. Now we've got no definitive source on this trawlers. This is just conjecture but optimism and optimism and potentially total bullshit, but let's read it anyway. This was posted by the London Economic and apparently a conservative party veteran. I mean, that could be anybody can that could be bloody anybody said we're watching the slow puncture of the reform balloon. They had a ten point lead over labour in the polls and won every seat in Makerfield at the locals, but they've lost yet again. Ferrar is ducking press conferences to avoid answering questions about his five million pounds crypto bunk, Ziausf is too chicken to stand as a candidate, it's now surely only a matter of time before tired Nigel picks up his ball and goes home, leaving a bunch of hopeless nobodies to squabble over the remains of a turquoise travesty. I also ended up they sent their big guns up to Makerfield. Dio was there, Farrage was there. Didn't work out. They did it. Didn't work out. Also, I'm wondering whether these crypto billionaires who were donating all this money to Farage starting to get this week bomb time because of their return on investment. I always wonder that about things like GPUs, but I don't know they've got such deep pockets so I don't know but potentially. When you think about it Gem,ma, we've had three quite significant dialections . First, we had Cafilly , then Gorton which used to call it carefully. Remember, carefully . Then Gorton and Denton now make a field and you think reform with the crypto billionaires, all that funding on their side, all of the press on their side, BBC clambering over themselves to try and book reform people in every freaking question time. Yeah . And yet , and yet , I just think that's just so lovely. For me, again, patriotism. Let's reclaim it patriotism because that is for me that that was the people of Makerfield, the people of Kafidi, people of Gordon Denton going , fuck you with your division and your rage and your riots. Yeah , that's lost. Yeah, absolutely wonderful. In this episode, we're also gonna marvel at how absolutely unreal reform MP Sarah Pochin is first after this quick break, you massive monarchist Marina Perkist, we're gonna have a bit of royal chat. Okay Right , get up, Marina, stun up on this hot day and salute because it's Royal Time. Come on, wave, bow, scrape . How is this ? Oh, she's just done a very rude gesture, the sort of thing Italian dri vers do in Rome when they're in a traffic jam . I'm insulted, young lady. Gosh. I just as well we don't video the pod. Right. Now there's been a little bit of chat going about how William is the first royal who really gets as the decades roll by that swalling about in garages and crowns on their heads is starting to feel increasingly mental. I'm so glad he's picked up on that or has he ? And that is the question that we're posing today here on the Troll podcast. For you all to consider lovely listeners . So his vision for this modern monarchy apparently prioritizes a leaner, more accessible and purpose driven institution. Moving away from strict will formality, he plans to reduce pump. How do you reduce pump? Bum pump less pump gilded golden carriages Less scones of stone or stones of scone or what the thing was called. So look, Renee, you're going to be delighted, therefore, by his latest well down to earth a massive man of the people decision , which totally demonstrates this dedication to normal. Okay. So what's they doing? Are they eating tesco meal deals? No, they're not doing that, no Let me guess they are using their advantage card points to buy things at boots. No, no, not that either. Kate, Kate is instead of what's the shop she always buys her stuff at all the way always designer. Okay, Bennett. Really expensive. Yeah, okay, so she's not doing that. She's now going on vintage. Is that what they're doing? No, it is not. No. William and Kate have reportedly decided Marina Perkis that George, their beloved son will go to Eton. For fuck sake Yeah, so Eaton is an absolute snip. It's about seventy grand a year and it's the boarding school which has produced twenty of our prime ministers. I mean, that is mad, isn't it? That is mad. One school they literally prep them. So what representative is it? Countless cabinet ministers went there as well and basically about ninety eight percent of men who begin sentences with I don't you should talk about politics but apparently I was reading about this. George visited Eton with his parents and sources say he was excited which I'm sure is exactly how all thirteen year olds react to the prospect of just being shipped off to Berkshire. I'm thinking like papa papa, I can't wait to learn Latin. I can't wait to wear a top hat and tails every day. I can't wait to be told how I should rule the world and also suppress my emotions the whole time I'm there because that's really healthy . Exactly . So look, it was very funny in Vanity Fair , they said that according to an insider, the young royal received no special treatment and had to take the entrance exam before being offered a spot at the prestigious school. I just feel like he was gonna get in. Oh, that's ballox. Absolute barollocks. I just feel like he was always gonna get his. make So no special treatment. That whole thing is special treatment. The whole existence is special treatment. I'm sure the minute you walk up the path to Eaton, it's all special treatment. Yeah, probably. I just think it would have very clever of them to choose another public school. Nobody's expecting him to go to sort of, you know , some rough comp or whatever. And I want to quantify that by saying it's not that I think comprehens ive is a shit and I actually think he probably be a better person. If he did go to a normal comprehensive, I'm just saying that it's not going to happen in terms of what they would anticipate for their precious son . But he could have gone to like a another private school. And it just would've shown a bit more imagination. And it's quite interesting because I was doing skypapers and we didn't actually have this story, but I was being a little scathing about it. And somebody said, Oh no, but you know they need security for God's sake. He's going to be king and I had said, well, why can't he go to that school like St. Paul's or something, which is a very academic day school and they were like, well, I mean he can hardly go there and just be an hammersmith or something. And I just thought I think they've got enough money to have security to protect him wherever he went. Surely. Or even if he went to, I don't know, Westminster or some other posh boarding school, but it's just the whole top hat thing and it just I think people are a bit sick of this thing where if you go to that school you are told that you're going to be a ruler. I mean he literally is though to be fade and told that he actually is . But I don't know why it bugged me. What was that, what was that club called that David Cameron and Boris Johnson were in? Bullington. Bullington Direction's gonna be one of those? Maybe. I swear you could think you go and you get taught out a bully pretty much. I think that is the bully dung club whatever. But I was actually thinking quite nostalgically about Princess Diana. And I was thinking about how this strange gilded cage that is the monarchy must be very strange to be within. When she was raising those little boys, you saw her efforts at trying to be normal. She took them there at famous pictures, she took them to a theme park, something like Ches ington, and there was a water flume and you got these pictures of them on that together . And there were quite a few instances where you know she tried to bring them away from this sort of ridiculous existence. It made me feel sad for her I don't buy it. I don't buy it with Kate either. I think Kate's bang up for all of it. Anyway, perhaps I don't know. I mean, obviously we've got a clip where she was at the Trooping of the Color Old Kate with the kids in the carriage and they got booed. I mean, have a listen. I have a conversation about trooping of the colour this year there was a picture of Kate which dominated quite a few of papers with her looking annoyed . We assume annoyed at protest groups who were yelling towards the carriage that she was in, who were very anti monarchy, they don't want the monarchy to exist. And we've seen a lot more of that over the last few months. However, on this occasion , the children were in the carriage. Prince George, who is going to be king at some point was in that carriage at the time. One thing that we've seen since the change of reign is the protest , the big yellow banners that come out. He will be king at some point he could be sat there as a child thinking, Oh my god they're yelling at me. I think what we saw from Kate was that sort of instant natural reaction of a mother saying he's a little kid , you know, he's he's not that old and you are yelling at him as he's going past the carriage. The Prince and Princess Worth have shielded the children a lot and be very careful with how they have approached that introd uction to public life and therefore it must have been difficult for the Prince Wils to sit there with her three children and being able to hear that. So I can sympathise . I'd be the same. Mumm beyar in instinct would come and I'd be far less graceful than she was. I'd be like, What the f is wrong with you? Would you do that hand gesture that you did at earlier, wouldn't you? I'd just do that exactly. Exactly. Yeah. You would never be in a carriage going down the mouth with some hat off . You don't. I can understand the protest. The anti monarchy I do, but come on, booing kids. It's just not right. But then there's also a question as to like why you parading them about. I know he's going to be future king but holding him up like bloody simple at the beginning of the fucking lion king 's still in the carriage. She's quite a big one. Well, she's paraded in a carriage, right? Yeah, that's the job. Instead of the crowd , I guess that child will say later were they booing? And it's an interesting discussion to have. And one they should have over the banqueting table at dinner . Yeah, an addy. Yeah. Explain it. Explain it with a rational hat on and say darling, some people don't believe in this . Some people don't think it's fair that you get to be born into this life and then become king and ruler . Even as you say is a bit heavy that conversation ? And he goes, But I am the king mummy, I am . No, darling. Well, you are you are, you are, you're absolutely right. Why don't they realize that? Look, they're parenting, they realize that I'm just born better . Well, you see down there's the problem. You see your vagina royal vagina. So I am the royal sperm and the egg and that's that royal sperm with that egg I am the king. God damn them. Can I have them executed? There's probably some old legislation, yes, we'll look it up. Send them to the tower. Bastards . Anyway, we can all go to bed relieved that George is going to get the finest education in all the land, is it? Is it ? Spring heeled Jim fifty nine said George is an inspiration to his generation. It just goes to show anyone can achieve anything if your granddad's the king of England heartwarming. And let's end this section with a clip. Ollie underscore one hundred one just said, Oh God, everybody, a breath . Oh my god, guys, finally some good news . Oh my god, I am relieved. I've been worried sick . Just thinking, imagine he doesn't get in. Imagine he has to go to like harrow or worse a school no one's heard of the relief. Honestly, this is all I've been able to think about because I knew he was approaching secondary school age. I just didn't know is he going to you'd think being the king's son King's grandson he might get in , but it's not a guarantee and oh everyone relaxed because we did it Right. For about five minutes last week, Makerfield became the most important constituency in Britain. You all know by now what happened? And you all know that the media coverage was absolutely crazy. There was so many vox pocks happening and yeah, Burnham won comfortably . He actually won around fifty five percent of the vote with a majority of more than nine thousand over reform, which was pretty staggering. So yeah, it was a good turnout. It was a good turnout and what it showed with that big turnaround is that and this was talking about on the Matt All right Show the other day, he's a reform killer, right? If he can do that, if he can unite the progressive vote or even just the anti farrage vote , then that's bloody powerful. And I think that is why it left Starmer with nowhere to go. Nowhere to go because the rest of the MP's in the party will have been looking at that huge turnaround thinking , oh , I want a piece of that. I want a piece of that. I want to be on the winning team. I want to be, you know, under a leader that he is going to be able to galvanize people and get them to show up and feel passionate again. I agree. Although and again, we'll talk about this more tomorrow. I'm still a bit nervous. Nobody knows what he's actually going to do and actually running the country the idea that it's easy. You know, Christ almighty. We don't know. None of us know yet whether Andy Burnham is going to be successful at it and what the press will do and all of that, but more on that tomorrow. Let's have a listen though because he is a good communicator and actually watching this speech labour's John MacDonald actually welled up a bit. You could see there was a lot of emotion around it. The people of the wonderful places that make up this constituency, the proud places that have deserved so much more . I will forever be grateful to them that they have given me the chance to go back and make this country work for Makerfield. People here have voted for change. They have voted for more power for the North and everywhere forgotten by Westminster, they have voted for hope. I kind of feel like maybe you are emotional in a slightly different way tonight We seem so. The reason I was depressed that time is because we had that flood of reform . And if you remember, for the first time, we had two reform elected in my constituency, which I never thought would happen. So it was really shocking . But yeah, I'm lifted by this. I think the whole Labour Party will be lifted by this because it shows we can we can not just defeat reform, we can trounce them, but we can only trounce them if we reflect on how Andy Burnham has done that. He's offered hope and change . And I have to say and again I don't want to be harsh with Kia . Kia has to recognise that actually I think it is time to move on. So let's plan it properly. Let's not divide the party. Let's try let's try and do it with a bit of d ignity . Yeah. And I think that's exactly what Starmer has done. I think he has put country first. He was very graceful in his departure speech. And yeah, I agree. I want to feel some hope. We've got a long way to go, everybody. And I've never wanted a man to succeed. Stick with us for the ride. Yeah, I've never wanted a man to succeed more in all my bloody life. I'm having conversation but my mum and dad are over today and they were asked, you know, my dad was saying, why have we got rid of Saddam? I said, I think dad, there were just too many mistakes that people wouldn't come back from. They wouldn't vote for labor again. And he's like, But they all make mistakes. Every politician makes mistakes, what is that Johnson did not make a mistake? There is a met and I was like, it's different . Well, it's different because on the left we are slightly sometimes ideological, eutopic, perfectionists. We expect too much. I still don't think there's like one glaring thing that stands out from his premiership. I mean, if anything, we've all been hearing all the very, very good things that have been achieved in a very large chunk of the manifesto as well. They were ploughing through. I mean, I've got the lists, they're really getting through it. I think for the left , Gaza, Gaza is the stain on him and fuck me, I hope Andy Burnham comes out and is very clear. Gaza, Winter Fuel, Island of Strangers Mandelson I feel like people could get over the island I feel like since McSweeney went you could see that he was just being badly advised. So I think I think that the flaws, the fatal flaws were trying to pander to reform for quite a long time with Morgan McSweeney advising him and people never really feeling like they knew what he was all about. I think he's been amazing on the global stage intern ationally. You know, Andy Burnham doesn't have those relationships sorted out in the way that Starma does. Yeah, I guess we've got to start somewhere. Yeah, no, absolutely, absolutely. Yeah. Look, we'll we will see. And the press is yet to sink its teeth into Burnham. Into Burnham. I'm so glad that there has been a sort of dignified resignation because my worry was that number ten would stop briefing against Bernam. Yeah, that was my concern. We're not going to do that. The Labour Party is not going to rip itself apart. I think would be labour voters, that's the last thing they want to see. Another thing I want to say is John McDonald got a bit emotional there. I actually got a bit emotional thinking about what voters are doing, what voters are doing to keep the enemy at bay. And I'm so it makes it makes me so proud of the country. And I'm just going to quote a little bit from Ian Dunn's column again because it made me it was hard Ian Dunn. No, but I really never know. I just messaged him and I say like just send him a little carefully. I said great soft stop because he just he's brilliant. His pieces are brilliant. And he said this . And he said over the last two years, as the threat of reform has reared its head, it has been truly inspiring to see the British public go to work over and over again . Show me who is best placed to beat reform and I will back them. It doesn't matter who it is. Two years ago the Lib Dems and the Greens won eleven percent in Makerfield. Last night, they got a combined one percent. Yeah, three hundred and eight people voted green. one hundred sixty three voted Lib Dem. We've seen this over and over. A great big chunk of voters really do not care that much who the party is, but they want to make sure reform lose. They want to hurt Farage and they will do it in any way they can. You're saying that's such a beautiful thing to see despite the fact that print journalism is intent on dragging this country into this ugly authoritarian terrain. He says over and over again British voters in seats across the UK have come out to prove these the press, the journalists and broadcast journalists wrong and they want a sign of how to hurt Farage and they want to deliver the blow personally. And they've now created a situation in which reform is bleeding profusely, horribly damaged. What glorious people they are. I felt so happy the day after. You're right. They're like, You can take your racist bullshit and shove it up your ass , which is less eloquent than what Ian Dump said, but it's the same sentiment and I feel it with all my heart. I've always believed that Brits are good people, by and large. Of course you're going to have a few races and a few twats here and there. And here's a bit of beautiful commentary that came straight after on the tide of this wind, the sort of euphoric tide, J. Matthewson official, big shout out to you. You're one of my favorite commentators. So he's gone onto Dan Woodon's YouTube show. We're still going He's still going Sorry about that. Sorry Bobby . And you should see who he's up against is some gazer don't know who he is, and you've got Danwart and himself looking like a dark overlord . And then you've got Mike Graham . Lots of diversity on that panel . And then you've got a guy who I should know his name. I've been on Jeremy Byrne with him twice. I can't remember his bloody name. Him. Anyways, very right wing. And this is what he did. And on this clip, it says right wing panel put in their place after Reform UK defeat. And this country will reject everything stand for. And people like me will never , never allow your bigotry to take hold in this country. The very people that you thought you could wind up and rile up and send out on the streets. Once they voted for your conspiracy theory politics and the absolute nonsense and you guys are just worried that you're not going to have the rage bait that generates the clip. I'm not worried about that at all actually It's going to continue because as long as these idiots are in charge we'll all be making plenty of money thanks. We want to save the country. That is what matters. Donald Trump was able to take control of the Republican Party. That's the difference. And he was able to to be successful in a two party political system with control of one of those two part ies. You are not that and you will never be that and this country will reject you stand for and people like me will never , never allow your bigotry to take hold in this country . That's right in the mirror or that's why they kicked him out of Labour Party for being so unreasonable. It was clearly a challenge to Andy Barnam's leadership with such charisma. Look, mate, most people do not want to just have millions of immigrants imposted upon them and pay for them forever . They're so threatened, aren't they? They have to try and attack the person because they couldn't attack the point, couldn't they? No, I know, rubbing our knees on that one. And , we've now, I'm afraid we're taking another little handbrake turn here . And we're gonna have to give someone this prestigious title. You have a Bell End of the Wi Belle End of the week. And it was easy, really easy to give this one out and it's gone to Reform MP Sarah Pochin, who actually posted these actual words trawlers she posted for the sake of women's safety we need England to keep winning my god. She also posted a video and we're going to play it for you. England won the football last night and thank goodness they did because, on the occasions that England lose their football matches, the incidences of domestic violence go through the roof, so boys, keep winning. A shit . And my cat . And my cat . So when I saw that, my brain immediately goes to, is it fake? It's so preposterous or is it some sort of like decoy? Are we all supposed to now be that the dead cat is this to try and detract from the Maker field defeat? You're trying to excuse it. How could anyone I'm trying to figure out a way, but then do you remember there was a thing that happened where she was at an event and her autocue was down . And she was like, Oh, I'm not supposed to say anything. Or she said something along the lines or I don't think I should say anything without autocue. And then went on to say something offensive about hijabs. Like she cannot be trusted to ad lib. She has absolute walking talking liability. And the thing is when you've only got eight MPs , you can't really hide . No, you know, you can't really hide the shitty on es that can't do public speaking. Not really. She's also the person who said that she'd seen enough of seeing black people in adverts. Yes. So hang on, if you go up to Sarah Poton and you look in her ear, you go hello, hello Hello brain You are you in there No nothing in there she does she's got that kind of you, know, have you ever met a dog that is like vacant behind the eyes? Have I ever met a dog? Do you know that some dogs are like you can tell this switch dog and others like . Yeah, that's that's their approaching v ibes. That is Serapaching vibes. How on earth could you do that? Could you make that statement? How on earth could you put the onus of women's safety in terms of domestic violence onto the England footballers and not the perpetrators, not the wife beaters, you fucking liability. Yeah, and it's like all very jolly as well. Good luck everybody or you might get the shit kicked out of you It did make me wonder actually. I haven't thought about this person for a while even though I know sometimes she lives rent free in your head. But Andrea Jenkins of Reform . She was on channel for news and she this was a while back and she said I've been, a domest inic abuse relationship and I'm standing up for those women Blah blah blah. I just wonder what Andrea made for once, I'm actually wondering what did Andrea make of those comments that just trivialize? And Sarah poaching comes from a place of what is a person called when they are just devoid of compassion? I can't ever imagine being in the position of someone who had , you know, feared for their life for domestic abuse, that they would make that comment You could only make that comment if you're so detached from reality, so detached from being able to consider how another person has felt in that position that you would make it. Yeah, it's just dreadful on every front. Sharon Gafka said , What vile framing? For the avoidance of doubt, yes, refugee charity has launched a campaign called Show Domestic Abuse the Red Card. As an ambassador, I have endorsed it. And yes, research from Lancaster University found that incidence of domestic abuse increased by thirty eight percent when the England team loses. But you want to know something else? They also increased by twenty six percent when England win or draw and that is because football doesn't cause abuse abusers do , which is the bloody point. Ollie Dougmore, he said, You really need to remember opinions like this when this lot are telling you the reason they care so much about grooming gangs is the safety of women and girls . And yeah, I'm very sick of them sort of weaponizing that in that instance and then being so crass. But I think it almost normalises it. It's like, oh, it's going to happen , you know, it's going to happen. So lads do, your best out there . Get all the way to the final what? So as if it wasn't as almighty a fuck up as it is, what was really beautiful to see was this labour pair Thangum debener wow, what, name by the way, Thangum Debaner . It's amazing. Also, pointing out things that she has said in the past that are just completely horrendous. Stuzzy wrote, take a bow. It's about fucking time. Someone stood in front of a mainstream media camera and told it straight. Reforms Sarah Pochin is triggered by brown faces on Telly and she can piss and win all she likes, but the truth hits hard. Have a listen to this. Supertanski posted it and it was pretty spectacular. So they were live on Sky News and Sarah Pochin was there as was Thangam. Thangam Debonair who is a labourer a labour peer. Thank you very much for that in football terms. I'll assist, Marina Po. Here's the clip. So you don't like being on television with brown people, do you sarry, you've said that already. That's outrageous. No, do you want me to find the quote? Are you saying you don't like seeing brown people on TV? Do you want me to find it for you? Or was that not you? Was that some other Sarah poaching? Hanging that's that some other Sarah? You see, it was outrageous way to say that Yes I just find that he took it in the running to the general election ary. He is supposed to be cowist in the runoff in the right does not have to pay for Niger's security. Can I do Stephen Flynn's tweet now? That's right. Well , you can agree to disagree on that one again. Do you know what I love that from Thangam? Do you know why I like it? She's proper royal. It's genuine. That's coming from a genuine place there, and that's why she deserves all of her flowers. Who else deserves their flowers? Supertanski does for this brilliant thread. She wrote people are calling Sarah Poaching Ku Klux Nan and I'm personally absolutely fucking living for it Alright trawlers, it is time for underrated and all I know Jemma said that Scylla is making a comeback. Chew the music Adam. It's time for blind date . Okay, I'm back because last time I was here I introduced three lovely guys to all the lovely ladies and all that lovely gay guy listeners and I thought I haven't been very fur because I need to introduce you to some more lovely guys and also some lovely ladies as well for all our lovely gay ladies and all our lovely guys So first off it's such a romantic underrated section . So first of all, I want to introduce you to somebody who is Oh my God, Marina. He's like Mistick Meg. It's Matt Goodwin. We haven't seen him for a while, but when we do he's so full of clever , clever points . Here he is trying to predict what's going to happen in Makerfield. Andy Burnham is going to lose Makerfield and he's going to lose it by some way. And the reason that I say that is because I know Maker Field and I just ran at the Goron Adenton Bio election. How did that go Matt ? So anybody fancy dinner with him Marina, we've got some lovely comments here. You can read those, but Will J Slater says, does Matt have a self humiliation kink ? And The O Nolan wrote, Reform are not as popular as they think they are. One of the key takes away from this by election is that they should realise that bots can't vote . Okay, are you ready for another guy? Sadly, everybody. He is taken. He's got a lovely, lovely lady is with Isabella Oakshot. You know the one that looks like Garth out of Wayne's world but here he is and he's got such interesting analys is. It was posted by politics Joe and it made me think have you got in love have you come to this conclusion? Did you have to do a back bend together ? In the local elections, we used the slogan vote reform get starma out and we heard from a number of people in the constituency who said in order to ensure that we get starmer out, I'm going to vote Burnham, even though I'm reform minded or I'm a reform voter in the locals and that's actually what's happening . They have sent a very clear message. No People want the most unpopular prime minister in living memory. No, it isn't. Why are you stroking your chin there and read you know? You're not convinced by Dickie I'm not. I'm with Nick Southern One who wrote What an absolute tube this lad is PJ Mead wrote Ty says reform lost because people voted for someone else. Nothing gets past him does it? Except if the people voted for labour, they're labour voters. Oh , Silla, you're making it tough. It's tough this week. It is very, very tough out there. Who have you got? Who's in third place? Who's in third place for us? Now I've got two absolutely cracking ladies. These ladies are fabulous . We've got someone we haven't seen for a while, everybody's favorite. List truss and here she is with June sl and June's gone on to Lizzie's show. I don't know if you've ever watched it before. I hadn't until until the other day when I found this over the weekend . things The we do for you drawling are they ? Things we do. It's the Liz Trasho over on YouTube and well, I just thought we should have a listen to what these lovely, lovely ladies are saying over there. I've picked out two bits that are quite special . Very, very romantic. June's husband sounds like an absolute keeper. June, what is going on on the ground in Maker field? We're expecting the by election on Thursday this week Well from the reform angle , Robert is a very busy lad and when I went out on the doorstep with him he's amazingly popular . I think the difference with Robert is because he's new to this and he's a quiet what I would call a thinker reminds me of my husband a bit I mean, I'm all off but, my husband thinks about things before he responds and Roberts a bit like that . And what I really liked about him, when somebody brought up a problem at the doorstep, it was straight in, phone out detail s, taking it down . You usually knew a bit of something about it, whether it's bus routes or litter, whatever the local problems were. So Armarina, what do you think their junes? Husband is a deep thinker like Robber . And we've seen Robert thinking live, haven't we? Do you remember that tonight? We saw this is it. I'm not sure I believe word of what you're saying there June because he was asked about reform's flagship policy and he can answer shit about it. So I just don't think I can believe you . But you know, his husband's lovely, you got her into politics and here she is just having a little bit of memory lane about that and it's it's quite staggering . You know, a lot of people don't research politics. I didn't listen. I didn't take any notice till about twenty twelve, thirteen when my husband told me off on a ski lift one day when I said, I think if there is a referendum I'll probably vote to stay and he like looked at me. I thought it was going to push me off the lift and he said you're clueless, aren't you? You're just clueless. And I thought, why we've got p aet passport in house in Austria, why don't I vote to stay? And he just he made that noise that Lurch used to make on Adam's family. And so he started opening it up for me about politics. And then I went so really I started Googling the EU and I went, well these are like communists and he just went yes June that's right and I said well we can't live under communism and that was it that was it and I thought I'd better tell me mates . So I started telling people online, then I thought I'll set a post to publish it. And I didn't sleep that night when I did that . And I've never stopped. I've got about seven hundred thirty six thousand followers across the three platforms that are run. Sam Marina, he nearly pushed her off a ski lift and he told me she was a fucking idiot because the EU are a bunch of fucking copies , bloody marks . Thank God for him thank God for him Thank you, James later husband. Thank you for setting off that movement . That chain of events. I think he's what's known as a binfluencer. She's got eighty nine thousand followers on YouTube. Yeah, they state of it. I know . I know right. Trailers, I think we 've got to leave it there. What's to leave it there? I don't even want Graham to give us a recap. That was more than enough. I think I've sealed shot . Like, yes, it's this sound again, Marina. Yeah, even Cyla's not feeling very romantic now, so she's gone. And we're going to leave you with pudding. Please tune in tomorrow. We've got to do God knows how episodes this week. It's just going to be. They're just gonna keep on coming, keep on coming. You know, when you meet a Chinese and it just repeats hurt is going to be like that but in podcasting I love how you sell this . I just love how you saw the podcast . I think you know let it never be said that you over sell. Absolutely. Pudding everybody . It's Russell Caine because again, we're enjoying his Andy Burnham impressions and for this episode certainly he was the star of the show . Enjoy. Hey guys, Andy Burnham here. Now, all I ask you to do today is vote. Don't vote for me if you don't want to vote for me, vote for whoever you like. You probably think I'd be pounding the streets at the town hall, but I'm just sorting my garage out instead. I've got lots of old storage in there and I thought I'd go through my boxes. It takes my mind off things. I had breakfast this morning and it wasn't London granolas or oats. I had cocoa pops. In gravy would you believe I said Engravey sorry it's a constituency Joan it was her that gave me the idea anyway I'm off now to do some generic Northern things and don't forget to vote. Vote Andy and I will take care of the Makersfield constituency. It's my number one goal is to seize fucking power and to become the silverback . I will , I will become the look to just basically make sure everyone has access to the little wooden forks that you stab into chips. Vote Andy Burnham