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The Trawl
Jemma Forte & Marina Purkiss
Lighthearted Observations and Closing Remarks
From Perv Glasses & An Empty Fairground: The Great American Flop — Jul 2, 2026
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I'm Runa Perkis. and I'm Gemma Forte and trallers we are kicking off with some good news. So Edon Musk has lost his trillionaire status as SpaceX stock falls. ' he had a b down I mean, he's still a billionaire by a long stretch. We take the wins where we can trallers. We do indeed. It's a bit like say like you've been aiming for an amount on social media and you're like, oh my god, I hit eighty five thousand or something. and then the next day people I'm following. and you're like Yeah down again' why you never announce. you never announce something pass past one hundred thousand on Instagram. I donon't say a word say a word. anythingything could happen, but someone else is having a good day Mm M. Yes, that's correct, Marina, because somebody else is also exceedingly well off, I mean is well off even So Zoe Gardner said This Prince William, and it was reported in the mirror. Prince William is now a billionaire and richer than the king. As new documents reveal tax paid. Yes, the yearly accounts have been published for the Duchy of Cornwall, which Prince William inherited when he became heir to the throne four years ago, and the amount he paid in tax has been revealed for the first time H Wow. I'm glad that we give them hundreds of millions of pounds because they really need it, Minna. Gemma, the sovereign grant in the last few years has doubled. That is taxpayer money Yeah has doubled to pay for Buckingham Palace repairs and they're not even going to bloody live in it, right? He's not even going to live in it Charles just open it up to the public and also I was on Jeremy Line last week talking about this and I said, it's ridiculous. All of that profit they make with the crown estate and whatever They don't pay income tax on the sovereign fund. They don't pay capital gains on the crown estate. they don't pay inheritance tax. And we just keep giving them all this cash. And I think it was Jeremy Vine's rebuttal. and he said Yes, if they have to pay inheritance tax, they'll be wiped out. I said? Well, then they're not viable business, are they At least put your hands in your furry pockets, ermine pockets to pay for your own repairs. Yeah I don't know Anyway, there the were off Oh And Camilla choosing on the Royal Instagram, I think to be photographed with JK. Rowling. Great. That's a very purposeful decision.. You know, She knows what that means. And I was like, oh, you've gone, I mean, not that you werere like mass be far up in my estimation, but Yeah Anyway, two wonders for the monarchy, aren't they? Wonders. might have just been there with a Prince Andrew. Not Andrew, formerly known as Prince From Prince Andrew to the King of the North. Andy Burnham, Gemma wants to talk about Andy Burnham? Well, I felt we should because he made his speech and it's pretty likely that he's going to be the next prime mininister. so I thought that we should get into it a little bit, see what we're all thinking. We'll get into what we think in just a second First of all, the overview, this is what I've done for you trawlers. I've kind of trarawled and it's kind of like a digest. So in short, the liberals loved it. So Ian Dunt said that Burnham's speech was fucking brilliant, crammed with big ideas, era defining structural changes to the way the country is run, hugely ambitious but deliverable, compelling emotional langage, et cetera, et cetera. And he quoted the big quote, which was, good growth is every postcode and hope every heart. It's good line. It is a good line. Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales they weren't so keen due to the fact that they didn't even get a mention because what did get a mention was his plan to create a number ten North and he is very much associated with the North. I don't know where that starts from. Is it Watford or is it Manchester? I don't know. Anywhere North of the Watford Gap, I think But I do understand that you, they're a bit like, hello, we're entire countries over here, anything for us. And Swinny said, Scotland's a nation, not a region It was like a warning shot after his speech on devolution. And then there's the left and the left They fucking hate it. They hate it because they're like, is he going to acknowledge the fact that there's been a massive genocide committed by Israel and it is ongoing? And look, the UN only last week, they're unequivocal about that fact, although obviously it's been obvious to all of us since a long time now. Zara Sulttana said, could see Andy Burnham embracing scrutiny by taking no questions after his first landmark speech that was little more than just vibes The question he can't avoid forever when he becomes PM is when will the UK stop selling arms to the genocidal apartheid state of Israel? And I think we'd all like to know that. Tim, I'm a bit worried. I'm a bit worried because he's it looks like one of his appointments. is straightway wrong ong foot bych. So it said here it was in the guardian Burnham's Pick for chief of staff led firm that advised BP, Apple and Amazon. So this guy James Perneell, I think is one of his top picks. He was CEO Flint Global. One labour MP described that as a very bad sign. So Flint Global is a registered lobbyist but Also this per now was a former ex chair of the Friends of Israel M whichich yeah, if that is his pick I mean, what's he doing? And I'm going to also share this with you trallers Last week. So the question on Jeremy Vine show was who would make a better PM Farage or Burnham. Now, obviously, we know there's no contest there, but that was my answer And I I saw know the clip was me talking about how he's kind with his clean slate. and I sent it to Burnham who follows me after a few drinks because I got bold and I got some courage. Anyway, so I sent it to Bandy Burnham and I said, We're rooting for you. Please don't balls this up And surprisingly He actually responded and said I will try my best not to or something that to that degree. And I think gosh, if this is your chief of staff appointment, Andy, if this is your appointment Jesus You're not even time blocks. I know. I just feel very cautious. I feel very like if we're just changing for the sake of change, why, you know, et cetera. Anyway, the right wing media though, are very rattled by him. and that is good to see. the telegraph being absolutely cray cray. Robert Saunders was like, it's a long time since the telegraph hass been a serious newspaper, but in what universe Is this an accurate summary of what Burnham said? and they presented it as Burnnam to take Britain back to the nineteen seventies And then there was this. Paul Bassett Davies said disappointing speech from Andy Berham, notothing about robot butlers or free jetpacks and no clear policy position on ows. Y I noticed that as well. Glaring emissions. Yeah, me too. Yeah, one hundred percent that's what I was looking out for. And then there was the Financial Times and they went on about how he's pledging to deliver good growth in every postcode And actually, I thought this was really interesting. Josh, who is from the movement forward. So he was kind of responsible for all that tactical voting business and a very clever website when we got rid of the Tories the Royal, I mean, the country. he pointed out Who is the growth for? Because the UK is already the fifth largest economy in the world. and that's despite Brexit. So you've got, the USA, China, Germany, Japan And then ask So we are growing, but nobody feels it. I know know bloody metric, isn't it the fifth largest economy? We could be the fourth, we could be the third. or what's America And you look at the state of that. It's not about what's the wealthiest economy. it's about Distribution of that wealth. Exactly. Look how many people are in poverty in the US, precisely. Anyway, back to Burnham. he did bugger off afterwards and some people criticized for him. that said it was a bit foragy, but Mimi Jay Nine said, I think it's clever of him. The media will be asking the same stupid bollocks. Have you spoken to Starer? What about the markets Do you have a Mandate? The media is now having to report his speech? Yeah, true. f fair play actually. Anyway, what do you make of it? What do you make of it, Marina? I think it was a good speech. I am hopeful I'm not as hopeful as thean dumped And I'm not I'm actually worried about Ian Dunt because I feel like I don't want to see his hopes dashed and then have to read his substack pieces when his hopes are dashed I am going to try and hope be hopeful. I think I'm just cynical after what we've seen. Certainly less cynical than Kemmy Badnoock though. Did you see how she refer to him Andy Bernam Yeah Yeah a pair of eyelashes and a black t shirt Yeah, she's just what' she doing? I was scrbbling around. But actually that led to something quite interesting that Brn sort of went on social media and he was like, o am I actually my t shirt's dark blue. And I was a bit and sort of twoo minds about it because whatever but it's also slightly childish And yet another part of me is I saw another thing that he was on Instagram today really addressing the camera. And I'm like, okay, this is a bit more Zach Pansky. Zach is really good at it. Like he is really good on socials. He really cuts through. He's just a natural, you know, looking down the lens. He's very good at that. And I'm like, maybe that is a good thing to get away from the you know, Starmer's total lack of visibility and sort of inability to cut through. But I've got a lot of caution and The other thing is Take politics out of it everybody. take everything out of it. L what do you think about X, Y and Z country seven prrime ministers in ten years. and you know that I had a lot of nuance in the Stara going episode, which a lot of people gave me a lot of shit for. But there's so many nuced reasons for that. And one is, if you're a country that's constantly changing your freaking prime mininister, it's a very unstable environment for people to come and live or choose to be here and you know investment does matter and investment does lead to jobs on It's just like, Andy Burnham was referencing ten years, having a ten year thing. And I thought, yeah, no why he's doing that because he knows, we can't keep doing this. We're going to get nowhere. Any administration that's even half competent needs a proper run at getting anything in place, whether it's building prisons, building houses Do X, Y and z, sorting out energy, you can't keep choppping and changing. With the Tories, obviously it was just one bellnd after bellnd after inconsequential, ineffective bellnd. You know, what does that? J remember the cabinet reshuffles . Just like moving deck chairs on the titanic, one bed end being replaced with another How are they supposed to? How is one person able to be one ministerial role, then move to another, then to another, then to another? Yeah yeah, it doesn't work It doesn't work. Think about it in your own placeac of work trarawlers. It doesn't work. You need time to bed in, understand the structure, understand the processes, understand the team. So yeah, think about how much lost time, lost resource, lost productivity because of all this moving shit around that let's hopefully get. time that he can bed in. Before we move on from Andy Berham, a quick clip from broadcaster James Longman of ABC News that he posted with the caption The most British thing News helicopters showing Andy Burnham's train arriving in London We laughing in the office because There is now a live feed of the train that Andy Burnham is on coming from the north of England It's on in our newsroom And they've got a helicopter up showing the train It's so funny And is it delayed? Yeah And it's delayed because we're in Britain. And then actually Sky has a different angle, which has just disappeared from the live shot there, there it is Great, so now you're informed, the King of the North is coming south. Brilliant. And actually, to be fair to Andy Burnham, he's got a bloody point. Why does everybody have to keep traveling to London for everything? That's what he was talking about today. Let's spread the love a little bit. I think that part of his speech makes perfect sense. There you go Everyone treats summer like it owes you happiness, long days, pool parties, your best life on a loop. So what does it mean when you feel worse? The summer blues are real. It's why summer is one of the busiest stretches of the year for people starting therapy. Grow Thrapy is here for all the moments when you decide you want more, more support support, more clarity, more tools. Gro connects you with thousands of high quality licensed therapists across the US, offering both virtual and in person sessions, nights and weekends. The therapist you want takes your insurance on G. Gro accepts over one hundred twenty five insurance plans. Sessions average twenty one dollars with insurance and some pay as little as zero dollars depending on their plan Visit growtherraapy. com slash start now today to get started. That's growthapy. com slash start now. 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So he had to make his point, but kind of in real time you saw he'd regretted it. So Stuzie wrote, Mohammed Zuddin Yusuf making a prize helmet out of himself on his latest season ticket question time appearance Tying himself in so many knots, he may as well be a pretzel unelected, sanctimonious goobbshide with the personality of an out of date yogurt So basically what happened was Yosif. that is his full name there, by the way This week during his seventh appearance Unelected Chairman Trawlerers seventh appearance BBCQion time, he was called out by Tory MP Kevin Hollindrake always criticizing politicians but never standing. And here is the clip And I just sayays here, one thing that never ceases to amaze me As you talk about government, how easy it is to run government. you talk yet you've never stood for goodment. You've never stood for Parliament. Uyburten to be fair to him And you criticize many of the things he's done and said But at least he's been willing to put his head above the parapet. Why have you not done that? Why have you not stood in some of the by elections the opportunities you've had around the country to get elected So it's interesting that you think all of the country's problems seem to be down to whether I've stood in a by election or not. No makes you hold hold onold hold onold. What makes you think I never put myself above the parapit and want to stand in a by election? Well you haven't done that, have you? What makes you think that? Because you haven't stood Zia.old party So anybody who wants to stand in a by election automatically gets to do so? Maybe in the Conservative Party where it's just cronyism and nothing else matters made But I think you made a lot of very big assumptions. Okay, so that's interesting So Have you put your name forlect? We have an application process to stand in parliamentary by elections. and all I'd say is that coming after me for not being willing to stand in a parliamentary by election is incorrect and hugely presumptuous. What did they do? Why did they stop? Doid they refuse you Oh yeah. He put his foot in it. didnidn't he? Didn't think that one through I actually felt a little bit sorry for. Don't you dare, Gemma Don't you dare. This is the guy who wants to punish constituencies that don't vote reform and put asylum detention centers there. Don't even think about it. Eise the sympathy. Rise the sympath Riseadical radical roe. Actually, R jokes on you because I've asked loads of times and they've Just not let me. Just not let me. God, that was cringe as hell and really weird. Also, in that clip, he looks about fifteen years old He's had a little haircut for his teley appearance. He looks incredibly young, but that is a sidebar. Danny F M Prry said, I can't think of a single reason why a far right party wouldn't let Zeousv stand to be an elected member of Parliament Can you? God? And Penny Albert Ella Jeweles astrology said in need bit of self respect and step away from those who would demonize his community. Do you know what? justust going back to that point where Danny Price has called them far right. which I think is absolutely reasonable. I had a horrible experience in terms of after the event on Jeremy Vine this week. Rina knows all about it and I'm going to talk about it a bit on the Gos The reaction to a clip where you know what? maybe in some regards, I get it a bit wrong sometimes, okay, because I don't live in an area where I've got an HMO at the end of the road with loads and loads of migrants. I probably and I know that and I'm aware of that. And I do have some sympathy and empathy for people who maybe feel you know, threatened by that or that it's not controlled or that people don't know who these people are, etcetera, right But instead, I chose to speak from my heart for a second on liive Telly and I just said, I hate the rhetoric. I wish people would be more compassionate. I do think we have to take refugees. I do think we have to take our fair share. I feel sorry for them. I think you have to be desperate to get into a boat, etcetera. I basically said stuff like that, which feel and think, but I didn't do the sort of putting myself in everybody's position and then phrasing it in a certain way. and the hate that I received for that hate that I received from people who in it might be bots some of them. And many of them might have seen posters that are going around now with like AI images of armies arriving in boats and all of this. And I'm trying to give them some credit because there's No excuse for the M that came after me and some of the comments, which had to be reported, at one point, I was tagging A atmet pololice, et ceter. And you know, I felt quite frightened. I don't mind admitting it because it gets too much, it gets really, really overwhelming. And I'm like, how have we got here? How have we got here? Because even if you hate me and think I'm just a middle class twat who doesn't know anything, which is fair enough fine But you think it's allright to say these things about doing me harm or wishing harm come to me. Like that's a line. That isn't okay. And so there's a very serious point to be made here that we have to S we have to get behind whatever will keep them out. And I think they've peaked Potentially And we've got a bit of time, but I really feel that's why I don't care if some of you get cross with me when I have nuance about things you know, I don't have a clear cut idea and I can't afford to be that tribal I just have to see things as I see them and perhaps be a bit political about it sometimes and be pragmatic and just think Burnham's the one to keep Farraage out then G in, G in. brilliant. I'm behind you That' where I'm at I think that's a very fair point, Jo man. I'm sorry that you went through that and I had a Well you get it. a similar thing as well. Yeah, I get it. I had We'll talk about on the gospot aheader. Wake up it' three AM B something feel very threatened actually. But again, we'll talk about this in the gossip. We'll come to it a little bit more in this episode as well. but we're going to leave that there. And then after the break, we're going to come back and talk a little bit about what's going with Trump Bloody meta gllasses Okay, so Trump, we could do a whole section of Trump being fix could do a series man. We could do a series, we could do a daily edition, but we're not going to. You know Ters, there's more going on. I mean, I'm just gonna to pick one thing, which is I mean, the fact that we know he's stupid although some people think it's a genius We know he's stupid. But he's obviously just surrounded by these incompetent, scophantic idiots that they let him get away with stupid. They can't say, sir. That is stupid. And so stuff like this happens. So you know he's got and he needs his name on everything I call the worst malignant narcissists. Well the new US. passport design is out. And let's just sayritish our black British passports are no longer the worst passports out there. So this new passport. it's I mean, it's obscene It's got the United States flag on it on the front It says United States of America two hundred and fifty And then on the back, it's got Donald Trump like leaning over a desk with his signature and You shared a picture of it, Donald Trump on trruth Social and wrote the USA's new passport, which says Welcome Be good Shoulders On their own passports, it says welcome Be good Why would it say welcome When passport was off you Y. Dense? Oh my go. someomebody's cleared that Okay and nobody is dead put their hand up and go U excuse me Wow Wow. Jeff in the head seven said Trump insisting on having welcome but be good on the passport makes me think he's got no idea who uses US passports. Oh my God, that's absolutely extraordinary. but also Absolutely have to touch on this. So the absolute bellnd. He has had this state fair. Now. as W. Norton said, Freedom two hundred and fifty was supposed to be a celebration of America's two hundred fiftieth birthday It's not gone well. Here is JoJo from Js on TikTok Holy shit Donald Trump's great American state fair. He wasn't even there, but today he went on true social and posted It it was packed. My guy My malevolent microwavave circus peanut. My daughter's seventh birthday Zoom during COVID had more bodies per square inch than half of them, didn't know how to operate a computer. So basically, to continue with W. Norton, Trump claimed that forty five thousand people attended and after the event, he put out the shittest AI crowd pictures ever However, unfortunately for him, Fox News was stationed there for the whole day and they were broadcasting from a glass studio that looked out over a totally empty event. and multiple news reports estimated the crowd to be closer to Not only that, the ice cream was melting, genuinely, the ferris wheel just didn't go round. there weren't enough people to bother. And thirteen states reportedly didn't participate and each state had like a booth to kind of represent it. and there's loads of pictures all over the internet of just them empty. And then, oh God and basically loads of bans cancellled. they couldn't really book anybody decent anyway, Th then Trump said sort of, it doesn't matter. you're going to get the goat. You're going to get the greatest of all time. M. And he stood and made a terrible speech. I mean The whole thing, my favourite my favourite was there was a picture that was a right giveaway. and it was you can see the guitarist on stage It's got sunglasses on And you look at the reflection and you can see There's just a few people like a hand of people in this field in front of them. So it's weird. It's almost like real life is not what we see on X You know? Yeah, it's full of all these bots and Bots can't vote and that's our hope. Yeah, Marcus. Reed said todayoday at the Great American State Fair is a fitting pathetic metaphor for the Trump brand. a massive stage, an inflated sense of self and absolutely nobody watching. You can practically hear the desperate silence echoing off the empty grass. People genuinely interested in this circus are the ones trapped on stage by their own unfortunate contracts. It's a grand spectacle of irrelevance. Also, you know he loves his decor. put up a new golden ornamental eagle as well And he wrote a golden gift to the White House for its two hundred fiftieth birthday year trarawlers side by side next to the Nazi eagle My word There is you know, it's to spot the difference, that one the difference and Canada hates Trump wrote Can we just hurry the fuck up to the part where he shoots himself in the bunker? Oh Oh Punchry I'm not sure omeone just a bit J a little bit, right. We're not going to tell on Trump We're actually going to talk about something else coming out of America. This The latest innovation Are we gonna call it that? Creepy. Pervy innovation comoming out of US teech bro Zuckerberg. Does anyone fancy you new a pair of pervy glasses? Predator glasses because These things are obscene. Imagine their trawers, they're glasses, you put them on your face. and You can record exactly what you see and or exactly what you hear. And there is very little indication that you are recording It's not the same as holding up a camera, pointing a camera at someone. There is no sound. There's apparently just this little light in the corner blink can you miss it Or you're bit too far away and you miss it, or there's a crowd and you miss it, or you're focusing on someone's glasses and minute detail in the corner of them and you miss it These are Awful The Yarn wrote, Breaking Mark Zuckerberg predicts AI glasses will be integrated into everyday life and used more than cell phones in the very near future And as Tim Watson Threads pointed out Literally, no one wants these b still completely out of touch. Oh Christ. I mean there's progress and then there's can you stop? Can you not stop? Like we were doing something in the papers the other day and there was something about, you know, these robot deliveries now that is all over LA. If you order a deliver room, it comes in a box on wheels down the street. And I'm just looking at it going, am I old Am I just being resistant here or am I like okay for thinking, well that's just someone out of a job Why I don't know. too make rich people richer Jemar get with the program. I know. And as for these, I'm like, yeah, you're all right. I mean, this will be used against people. This will be people having arguments with their partners and filming them and crossing lines all sorts of lines, or recording private conversations and then paying them back to people for gossip. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, obviously I wouldn't do that in a million years. I just think the whole thing is gross. And it makes me very scared to think about creepy men having these as well. I mean, is that not the sole market here Am I being silly here? Am I being ignorant to of trallers? Are you listening to this going, God these glasses sound great becausecause I don't understand what gap in the market they are serving apart from curvy, creepy bastards. And the irony Klaxon here is The glasses were launched with the marketing line with privacy at their core Wh's ppacy? Yeah. And listen to this, twoo Harvard students built a project literally called IX Ray where they'd walk around a campus, live stream the feed from the glasses and then run it through facial recognition and reverse image search and then have AI pull a stranger's name age, home address and phone number before the person had even finished saying hi back to them. And then they demonstrated this on real people at subway stations, walking up to strangers and confirming details that they just pulled from the internet in real time. And that was reported in Forbes. That is dangerous I mean stalkers Predators, like it's horrendous. Sathers. Yeah, thieves. It is absolutely horrendous. Yeah, because they know they know you're out and about. You're not at your house where they can pull your address And Meta's response to this was pIiss poor. So essentially it was kind of silence. and then later a response along the lines of, well, technically we don't ship the facial recognition part of it. We just ship the glasses with the camera. which is just so grossly negligent in my opinion. So For me, it's like the equivalent of selling someone a gun and saying, Well, we're not responsible You know, we didn't pull the trigger. We didn't sell you the bullet We just designed it to accept the bullet and be very easy to pull. The Humanity Archive said a stranger wearing two hundred and ninety nine dollars glasses can pull your name, your address, and your phone number off a scan of your face in seconds and meta sold nine million pairs in pest who too blloody too And the sickening bit as well and again, it is just like run it capitalism run wild Kyie Jenner of the Kardashian Kan. co signed on the latest designs. I'm surprised didn't Quinn Patrro. she She's always up for a dodgy ad or two, isn't she? No, it's absolutely terrible. And you know what? there just seems to be no one in the world who can say, no, no, no, no, no, no, that hasn't been thought through. No, it's a no from us. You know what makes me really sick is that humans are so profoundly clever as a species compared to other animals anyway in some regards, and yet it's what they do with that intelligence that's so frightening. I know for a fact there are very, very sophisticated drugs out there that could save people's lives and they just aren't licensed because again, the drug companies take their time with X, Y and Z. And it's like There are things that can do so much good that are withheld and it's something like this. Oh there you go. Yeahah. on the market. brilliant. Let's make loads of money out of it. Yeah. on the market also needing women needeing women to buy into this because women are responsible for the most purchasing power, they make the most purchases because they purchase on behalf of the family, gifting, whatever. And so what did they have to do? They had to bring in female. and so it was Kyie Jenner. Have a listen to this great take on it from Matt Bernstein over on Instagram. There's something particularly insidious about Meta's collaboration with Kylie Jenner on their new AI glasses that can film people without their knowledge. The new four hundred dollars Meta AI glasses come in a Kylie Jenner edition, which features an AI generated Kylie Jenner voiced chat bot that to you while you wear them. And yes, we could have a debate about why anyone would want that, but we don't have time for that today. What's more pressing is that the glasses have a hidden camera that can record audio and video on command. And really what this represents is the total collapse of photographic privacy in public space. used be hard hard to take a photo of someone without them noticing Cameras were clunky, shutters were loud. The camera phone made it easier to sneak a photo, but you still had to point and shoot. Whas now, metag glasses have evaporated any defenses you might have from being photographed or recorded in secrecy. Who does this appeal to? Who would this benefit Obviously creepy men. And there's already credible reporting that shows men are using these glasses to prey on women and exploit them for manosphere content. And that's just the footage that men are choosing to publish. It doesn't take a genius to know that these are going to be a tough sell for women, and Ma needs to convince women to get on board because women T control consumer trends, women drive up to eighty percent of all purchases. You can't have a hit product without Women and Ma needs these glasses to be a hit because it'll show shareholders that the hundreds of billions of dollars they've invested into AI is paying off. So they bring in Kylie Jenna who I believe is a billionaire. so she's obviously not good enough. but bit like Gwyet Paltrro can't see that these are morally socially just unacceptable them repugnant. And by the way, women already been specifically reporting this pattern of being secretly filmed in public by men wearing these. So one woman described being approached for a casual conversation by a man wearing what looked like ordinary glasses because they do. there's no massive giveaway. only to later discover footage of herself posted online with nearly a million views. Again, she had no idea she'd even been filmed. Yeah, and this is a good point. Black boots and lipstick. People with children should be louder about these glasses. Do you all understand anyone could be just recording your child And then that footage is going anywhere, which leads us to this because it gets worse Cameras don't just film you The footage doesn't stay on the device. No. it goes to Kenya. Obviously or it did go to Kenya. Yeahah, I saw this. I saw this. So This was a real headline in the BBC meta in Rao after workers who say they saw smart gllasses users having sex lose jobs. So the workers have lost their jobs people who reported this in Kenya. So basically, Meta is under pressure to explain why it cancellled a major contract with a company it was using to train AI shortly after some of its Kenya based workers alleged they had to view graphic content by meta smart glasses. So in one of the reports, one of the workers described seeing everything from people's living rooms naked bodies So yeah, clearly these workers are like, Jesus, this feels incredibly uncomfortable. I shouldn't be seeing X, Y and Z. So it's a real privacy violation. And you know what? Pe forget that Google Glass already did this whole thing, including the moral panic over a decade ago and bars and strip clubs straight up banned the device and people got called glass holes in public. I remember that now. Yeah Yeah. Yeah. it's sort of coming back to me. And then the lawyer in that Fortune magazine piece on these glasses said it best He remembered the exact same rest room camera panic with Google Glass over ten years ago and basically said, we're right back there except that now it's wrapped in a bloody ray ban, so it looks fashionable instead of dorky, which makes it worse because then people trust it more. Christ So that, Gemma, that's the innovation here It's not actually the AI or the camera. The innovation is making these creepy surveillance Look subtle. Yeah, look like a lifestyle brand, look like a fashion accessory. That's the creepy innovation here Yeah Also, say you were a well known person, canan you imagine people filming you when you're like not at work or something like that, like celebs Yeah and invading their privacy in that way. Like the whole thing. I just went at my kids sports day Right, How am I supposed you're supposed to know everyone's wearing sunglasses? How you supposed to know who's taking footage? Yeah Who's streaming aware? But you're right, also for absolute grimmos who want to have sunglasses, you can't see where their eyes are anyway. And if they're absolute wrongs and I think we'll end this section with this, Hannah Loney One of my friends bought a pair of metaglasses, so the whole friend group started referring to him as the pervert Until he got rid of them Everyone treats summer like it owes you happiness, long days, pool parties, your best life on a loop. So what does it mean when you feel worse? The summer blues are real. It's why summer is one of the busiest stretches of the year for people starting therapy. 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Connor McGregor being on the Jimmy Fallon show in America is the most damaging thing I have seen for women and women's rights in fucking years. How dare? You give a platform to a literal convicted essay assaultter the actual fuck. If you don't know, Connor McGregor was convicted by the way con convicted of essaying a woman so hard that she had to have her tampon surgically removed from her. And we're putting him on a pedest stool on a television show Fuck off. I'll tell you why it's damaging. Number one, it tells young men that there's no repercussions for their fucking actions so they can go out and do shit like Connor McGregor and fucking put women in danger. Number two, it tells young men that they don't need to listen to women and even if they are convicted they're allowed to live a fucking normal life like the fucking president. I know the world's backwards at the minute, but seeing that is the most insultin thing to women I could ever seen on television. Jimmy Fallon and every single person on that production team who had any say in that, fuck you and you are complicit in fucking assaults that happen to women. You're disgusting and you deserve to go to prison in hell. Thank you. Wonderful. Can I just point out so he was he actually avoided jail time because the case was pursued in a civil court rather than a criminal court The word conviction theerorism is yeah, just needs to be pointed out H Why Why is he on the show? Why is it fine? I don't know. and I thought that righteous anger was wonderful. What an ally as well. It's so, so true. Matil Desfaria said false allegations ruin a man's life. N even real conviction does. No. I would say like false allegations, I'm just gonna say do ruin people's lives. They are horrific. If it's false, it's false Fault, Jem Not if you're privileged enough, not if you're privileged. There becomes a level of privilege, a level of wealth where you are untouchable, whether the allegations are false or whether they are true They're just they're just bloody yearsars. And someone pointed out actually that Jimmy Fallan the thing hass got two daughters I mean, if I don't know how old they are, but imagine going daddy If you' got that man on a bloody show other guests? But the point is there's good men and then there's bad men. It's very, very simple. And if you are a good man, a false allegation is fucking like the most thing that could ever happen to you. I'm just sayingimmer. But yes, what the hell is that man doing sat on a sofa as if he's a shiny star and he's an absolute piece of shit. But then you got you've got the president of the United States
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