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The Trawl
Jemma Forte & Marina Purkiss
Debating Global Trends and Final Thoughts
From Question Time Carnage, Vance Comes for Britain & Pride Fights Back — Jun 9, 2026
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I'm Marina Perkis and it's another one of those weeks. I don't know if you have this, where sometimes I feel like I'm torn between feeling like Gosh, we need to stop being so polarizing. We need to start really listening to people, understanding their concerns And then the other half of me is like, what is wrong with you people? Yeah, you know, balancing those two emotions. Yeah, the first bit, the former, I tend to feel for about percent of the time Yeah. And the rest is what? J a small example. on the Jeremy Vyine showow yesterday, one of the callers, this woman, actually thought it was a good idea to ring up and say that basically what we should be doing is forcing people international service because it wouldd be reallyre good for them and can script them because we need to fence and you know, Putin attacks Then we need an army. I was like Yeah, I saw a clip, but it was Nick Ferrari's LBC show and it was a guy and even Nick Ferari was stumped. who basically said there should be no such thing as minimum wage And it's free market and you know there should be no intervention between an employer and an employee. So Nick Verizon, are you saying that if you know a woman says she's pregnant, then her employer should be able to just fire her? And he goes Yes, yes, I don't think that. And Nick Ferrari went, you feeling allright? Thats it. I mean, when you're on the wrong side of Nick Ferrari, I was gonna to say Nick Ferrari, we didn't put it in, but I think I texted you about this one, didn't I? It was on the radio with David Lamy on and just going, would you take the knee for Henry Novak And I just thought, oh, that's up there for most stupid question of the week.. Well, Jemma, there's a trend over on TikTok the trend taking the knee. I know, far right wrappps in there George flags, not really understanding, I think, what the fuck they're doing or why, just getting everything so mixed up in their heads, not understanding I can't even bothered to explain it to you Chorers becausecause I don't need to. don't need to. I don't need. Th these are people. Yeah exactly. Where? So ye,'s been a week. a week I something we do need to start this episode with because we haven't actually wished anybody a happy pride month yet here at the Trowll. A so woke, Jemo woke. So we are bloody well gonna do that right now. Happy Pide month, everybody. Love is love Do what you want. And we we're gonna start with a clip which made me hoot. And of course, in case you've forgotten, the premise of this podcast is we tra through social media so you don't have to. this went huge. So this was on the Peers Morgan Uncensored showow and Pers Morgan was just chuckling throughout it, knowing full well that this would go viral And there was a guy on called Michael Knowles. Now he's an American, very conservative political commentator and he co hosts a verdict with Ted Cruz. and he's often on networks like this Anyway, James Barr, the comedian who's really blowing up at the moment, was on with Brilli H Brilliant the clip. it's absolutely Fantastic. That's not what pride is. We're not saying, Ohh my Godd, look we' all having sex. We're fucking each other. That's not what pride is.ide does how the pride pides actually do generally They'iterally saying. Like there's like leather and weird spankings and It is.s out the straight community do that as well. No, we don't have just acknowledge. we don you are joking. Straight people have so many cacs. You do not have anyateg for. What you watch when you're watching not watch pornogy Come on. you must.'t watch your categ. Really? you don't this is this youran on the Bible? I don't have a model on me. I don't know it. You never was. What about when you were in college? No I might have seen a naked lady once or twice, but I don't. had a nakedady you intoy. what What are your kinks? What do you? What' you not going to sexualize mine? love I'm gonna do it back. He goes, whyy do you think gay people are I'm doing the same gay?cause I'm doing this because I'm getting it back. Here's why we would say it's devian is because man has like natural ends. The eye is for seeing, the glass is for drinking water out of it. And man has a sexual end, which is sexual conongress with women, which creates babies. Okay. Wh whyy do you have aot? Why do you have a G spot in your bum Okay I don't. I. You actually do. That s be proven. And if you go all the way back to ancient Rome, met be having sex with. I just want to clear it I' say insane you are talking about TikTok clip not m I're gonna blow up. You say. I lying. you're like missing out on so much. You be doing have a G spot. Well you do and your wife then you should enjoy it Son James Bar. Absolutely epic clip Pick, clip, screw you, your judgmental twatch. T want to pretend he's never seen porn as well you like? You've seen a naked lady or two, Gemma? Just a naked lady or two's very controlled Yeah. po poor guy' missing a prostrate. a prostate It was to the doctor about that. It was just brilliant flipping the tables, just being all judgy to someone and asking them also about their personal life and what they do behind closed doors and like just ably it, I don't understand why these like conservative people, Wh are they so obsessed with Yeah, the sex lives of other people Because obsessed rhymes with repress Yeah Also Mina Pkers, we need some kind of medal because last week we started a tl with the question as shut himself and now we're starting an episode with Question Have you got a G spotop, your bum And I just don't think the rest of rest of politics would have done that. So no. I mean, admittedly they're very, very successful. I can't imagine Marin is talking about that. No Mbe they should. John Pavlowvitz wrote Pride Month proves there is literally nothing on this earth as fragile as professed cisgender, heterosexual Conservative men. Yeah, non toxic masculinity said, immagine being more upset about Pride month than the Epstein files. Palo Sincup wrote and this is great. Straight people Let's treat Pride Month like a friend's wedding It's not about us, but we can still celebrate and be a supportive Pridesmaid. I'm so up for being a Pridesmaid and Jimmy Somerville of Bronsky Beat and Communard's faceab D. Right Stop it, Karen. I was rious him. he tweeted over, and this is such a fantastically happy, wonderful affirming post to end this section with before we dive into all the murky shit. So the Trades Union Congress posted The reform led Durham cououncil cut off funding to the annual Pride celebrations. So The trade unions launched a fundraiser to save it, eventually raising more money than was cut, whichich means this year's pride will be bigger than ever. In the nineteen eighties, the LGBTQ plus community raised thousands of pounds to help striking miners and their families. And Jimmy Somerville, whose tune we've just butchered said This is solidarity in action. This is hope. I feel sorry for the haters. 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With ACast, you can access the world's largest podcast marketplace Choose the right shows, the right audiences, the right format. Then watch the data tell you it worked. You're not buying impressions. You're buying influence. Learn more by visiting acast d. com slash advertise Okay, and now we're diving headlong into a section which starts mainly with just how dumb Robert Kenyan is and then goes into a bit of Jie Vance. Do we quickly though need to say if you'd like to come and see the Troll show Not that many tickets left. No, september seventeenth B big old theatre in London, there's tickets in the circle and gallery and then in Manchester eleventh and twelfth of November, I think there's about thirty tickets at each venue left. Yeah I've still not promoted it. Yeah, you might want to do that. I'm going do it. I'm going do it. I still it's been a busy a few weeks. so I'm going to promote it probably the end of this week on all of my channels And so I imagine the tickets should hopefully go So trarawlers get in there quickly. We'll put the link in the episode description if you fan set. Yeah, let's. Right. now, let's talk about how few brain cells Robert Kenyan has. Robert Kenyon being the guy that reform have chosen to stand against Andy Burnham in Macerfield Yeah. so he he managed to find himself in ion time I'd imagine there was a lot of prep involved in that, a lot of prep. They had groomed him to within an inch of his life. I will say that, I think he cleans up all right, doesn't he Sadly, can't really think about what comes out of his mouth And I personally took a lot of comfort from the Response the audience. There were a lot of times that he got laughed at N that we like to laugh at people, but I think they were just seeing how ridiculous Mbe do lot for people that's kind of the premise of the podcast. But there were so many times where he just made himself like a full made himself like a hypocrite He clearly was out of his depth and I'm glad that it was recognized. There wass a lot of contempt for him in that audience. Anna Ridgeway wrote, Rob Kenyon answering questions on question time is how I felt in my GCSE French speaking exam. Yeah, so we're going to play a little clip because it's quite golden and you could see him kind of gearing up. I'm sure the nerves were there. I wonder if the sort of big cheeses at reform, the Leanders' and the Nigels and the Z Jusiss, do you think they were watching their boy, their lad or off off you go you're going to do absolutely Brilliant, Sarah Poaching All these guys go on. off you go. here he is. And here he is. let's hear what you've got to say. I'd rather have a career politician than a plumber who's a sexist Nobbody to answer that. know, I want to give a mishap. So just for those of you you may not all be aware of things that Robert said in the past, you described yourself as a sexist. Alleged You've What you're denying that was S some of the things not. Okay you described yourself as a sexist You have made offensive comments about women. You've admitted that. You've also said that abortion is the cowardly act of women murdering defenseless baby and the women do it so they can shag anyone they want. That's your phrase, not mine. As I say, I'm raising it because lots of people in the audience raise it and I want to give you a chance to an. That's okay. I'll address those questions. I won't accept that label. I mean, a lot of the things have been said fifteen years ago. I all me ends up I've made mistakes and one about abortion was just too. I'm just addressing the first point where she said I was given a label that I won't accept. I was brought up by a single parents and my grandma who was a widow and an older sister. So I was brought up by women. I've got nothing but respect for women. know so I think something that said know fifteen years ago dragged up from an old rug before him You know, it's completely taken out of context. And like I say, I've made mistakes. I said things years ago that I wasn't say now and I definitely don't believe that on that point. You know Yeah, soatter this is that isue doesn't. And it's like I said I've got nothing but respect for women Can I just comment on this point though? Be I actually spoke to Carol Worderman this morning. She called me because she is really distressed that you have failed to apologise for any of these comments. So you about her specifically Her specifically. and she is watching at home tonight. And I wonder if you can look down that camera and say to Carol, You know what? I'm sorry. Can you do that? You know what hing must be said, but I never actually said anything to Carol I commented on a comment. Don't get me wrong. It was a disgusting comment that somebody else had written, but I commented on a comment With approval. Okay with approval. It was a crash joke and it's not something I'd say now. C I. E woman. E woman in this room And at home has been subject to shaming, whether in person or online. That'able' terable y I think you're just proving my point. Can you believe this? Honestly, we have all been subjected to it and the fact that men canot a man like you cannot sit and do a simple apology, I think is disgraceful. But on top of thatressforms policies wom still can't apologise, still can't apologise. They can't because they don't want to lose the base No But what's he doing there? He's like At one point he was making a note on his paper. what was he writing there? Help help. Yeah. And then there's a bit about like, you know, I was raised by my mum and my grandmother. I mean, most people were raised by their mum, like misogynists. Andrew Tate is raised by his m mom, his dad walked dad. I mean's bugger all. And if that also felt familiar trawlers I'll be maybe down to this clip Chris Finch IQ of one hundred and forty two. one of the cleverestokes I know, certainly the cleverest boke you know any. Christian, Yeah It was an argument once and he went How can I hate women My mum's one. There's a lot of truth in that and that's why when I see rubbish like I'm not annoyed because I'm in it or I'm a prude It offends women month in a way. Oh it's absolutely brilliant. So also, as you say, he's been scrubbed up. He looks quite good, physically clean, tidy, nice, fresh. But they've obviously groomed him in another way as well. They would have given him a bit of media training. So off the bat, off the bat' gone in with the word allegedly, which actually when we first started doing the troll, we used to pepper. We used to say something sort of quite libelalous and then go allegedly. And then it was only down the line that we realized that doesn't cover you babes. actually it was actually a troll is't now that actually I think got in touch and said it makes me really nervous that you just you say allegedly and, you know, you could get in a lot of trouble like, o Okay, to get some legal training. Yeah exactly. So she has said, you know, you're a self proclaimed sexist allegedly. No, I mean, that's what you said. that's self proclaimed, mate. seelf proclaimed. Yes So that's wrong use of the word allegedly right there. but on that one, I hear you Rob, hear you. And then the other thing is He will have been told because reform would be like, how are you going to handle this? They are going to accuse you of being a sexist. So what you need to say is I was raised by women. That'll do it a mention of her grandmother that will be tick some sort of box. And it's like, Yeah, my son's been raised by me. and he's only nineteen, but he's never ever gotone on social media and just said, really Vile disgusting Hiti od Sitty things Yeah. Superanssky wrote Fuck me, that sexist plumber that reformed found in a pub died on his ass. It was the worst performance I've ever seen on QT. I almost felt sorry for him at one point, thenen recovered by remembering that he's a misogynistic asshole standing for a racist party. By the way, on the grooming thing and getting him ready to, you know do these media rounds. He was on last night BBC on a segment on the BBC who's on with Andy Burnham. and he was obviously primed to ask a question I think he had one kind of job, to ask Andy Burnham this question about asylum seekers And he He fluffed it. I think the question was in his head The words might have been there, but they came out in the wrong order. Have a listen to this? I just had a question for Ande. I sent something written not so long back about and Was it Mc in the illegal The immigrants are asylum seekers giving them to local authorities to look after. Is that you know, with regards housing? I just wanted to clear something up thats all I just wanted to ask the question. D think he' clearred up with that question? Isry was the question? beg your pardon Wh do am I repeating that? Oh my go. his brain just collapsed. And he sh himself in the moment? L the woman onQistion timee when she went, I'd rather have a career politician than a sexist plumber. It's like fucking spot on. You can't use this thing like this weird inverted snobbery that these multimillionaires do. like, o, brilliant. Worked with Hannah Spencer. It's like, no, no, Hannah Spener is not only a plumber, brilliant, very useful trade. She's switched on, she's eloquent, she's fucking smart, she's got values She knows what her ideals are, she understands what her party's policies are. she's across the brief. She's making really interesting points, whether you agree or not, you know, she's on it. You can see that she could represent you in Parliament and then the fact that she's a plumber is just excellent. Also there is no greater bigger, most obvious career politician than Nigel pissing for ar Nigel frush How many times did he stand? seeven times? how many partes has he been in? Yeah Conservative UKip Brexit reform. He's been an MEP, though he never turned up for shit. He takes a pension from the EU despite not believing in it. He is the definition of a career politician Yeah Yeah. Oh God, it's all bloody Lol, isn't it? Anyway, look, we've got another clip for you and Qos firstly to the woman in the audience and secondly to Mukar for putting the clip together Let's hear from the woman in front of you in the glasses What worries me is that we've heard a lot of a few times now that people say, we'll build on brownfield sites Your boss, Nigel Farage took a five million pound payment from basically a crypto billionaire. lots and lots of suddenly, he's a know, aformer of a party forry cryptocurrency How are we to trust that you and your party wouldn't sell this off to the highest bidder when you have got a leader who runs your party who will say up the IRA for eighty pounds. I think it's shameful. I if you set up the RA for eighty pounds, I don't know if you do, Robert let apparently he did. Let me just give you a chance to answer that. Yeah So with regards to the five million, that's going to Parliament. so they're going to decide on whether there's anything wrong in it. so it's something beyond my control anyway. I hope you have a great birthday It comes from your good friend Aidan now. It's a bit early in the day. so all I've got actually is coffee. but I hope you enjoy a few pipes with the lads tonight The idea that this man can't be bought when he says shit like that, goes down to his little basement and does little recordings for eightquid a pop Yeah. ye it was just the reason I was giggling was because also I was just looking at Robert Kenyan's face trying to process the question What have I been told to say about the five million c think? it's going parli's going parliament. Also I listen, Fiona Bruce really competent host, I don't I'm not I don't want to be I don't wantna be a wker But sometimes Ill just think, I'll go back to Antiques rooadh She's not doing it for you. Not me personally I don't know personally whetherly pressing in. No no, I know, I know, I know. I know she's really competent. I'm being an idot. It's a subjective thing. Yes. It's a slightly subjective view. But yeah, obviously she's incredibly competent. I don't know whether I'd be able to do that job. it's a hard one. It's really difficult one managing The audience coming back, having to be impartial, having to manage everybody That's a chair. That's a chair roll You know, chair like it is mayaybe they should get Z Yusuf. He's a chair. I was gonna to say Z Yusuf iss a very good chair. actuallyctually, he's terrible chair. So listen to this. Again, this just shows you how obvious it is that all reform do. their whole shick is to complain about stuff, to point the finger at stuff, to go no wing, never do anything positive How beautifully encapsinated is all of that in this story. So imagine this you've got a picture of Zir Yoseuf next to Robert Kenyon. they're standing outside what is Ashton Library. Rob Kenyon. post this picture with the caption, Ashton Library has been closed and left a rot for almost two years MP for Makerfield, I will fight tooth and nail to get this building repaired, reopened and serving this community again. And then the community note Ashton Library is temporarily closed for repairs with services relocated. It is not being left a rot and work to reopen it is due to start soon. How utterly pathetic. And also the labour MP Josh Symondons confirmed over a week ago apparently that this library would be reopened and also confirmed there were like meetings upon meetings to save Ashton Library Josh Simons and other councilors and residents were there working their backsides off to save it. And guess what? Did he show up? Ccause he didn didn't. They're angry, they're angry, there's no plan. It's all about just like, what can we do to make people angry about stuff? And they did it. this Zyusf, by the way, Zusv spearheaded this one, where he wrote, On the day the whole political establishment claims we do not live in a two tier country, they announced this And it was basically a government announcement that black men aged between forty five and seventy four will be offered prostate cancer screening twoo mentions of prostate in the one episode, Gemma. We've got another one coming up. Yeah Yeah, no and we can make it I'm sure we can get a third one in. Anyway, so he's decided to just use that, weaponize it and saying that the NHS makes no drugs available exclusively to white people. tryrying to do this whole two tier thing that is just grounded in bollocks Owen Jones, I mean so many people pointing this out, but Owen Jones' tweet was particularly impactful because of his dad. He said, My white dad died of prostate cancer One in four black men will get prostate cancer. That's twice the rate of white people This policy will save lives and mean more NHS resources for others opportunistic race basacing is Disgusting Oh, it's so Ping P minute For fuck sake. Yes, absolutely. And so I am giving Rob Kenyan and Zia Yusf this You have the bell end of the week. The Bell end of the week. Just quickly, Gemma, you know his name is not just Yf Wh was it? Mhammed?', Mohameds, you His name is Mohammed Ziadin Yusf Mohammad. Conveniently drop that I just don't know what is what his game is. it's flower. Fower and moneyence. Okay, another huge and Bellnd is too banal Jady frigging vance from across the pond stirring things up You know, if you look into JD Vance, you look at things he' said in the past, you look at his ideology, I wouldd go as far as to say he's essentially like Elon Musk, a white supremacist. Was he though? He wasn't though. This isn't again another person that has completely changed their stance. But like Robert Genrick, they've become, I think they've seen their meal ticket. I think they've seen their route to power and they have completely abandoned any sort of principles or ideology they had beforehand. Like Jen Rick used to be fairly moderate, but now that doesn't work for him. And JD Vance is doing the exact same. If JD Vance is going to supersede Trump If JD Vance is going to command Maga, which I don't think he can do, but he's gearing up for it, then he needs to be as extreme which is why he's doing what sadly, you know, he's doing the equivalent of what Zius is doing. He is weaponizing stuff. Yeah, you're right, because actually at one point, JD Vance faced a lot of scrutiny and racist attacks himself because he is married to Usa Vance, who's of Indian descent and he's been attacked by people like Nick Fuentis who'veort verbally attacked him. However, since then, as you say, suddenly, he's aligning his political agenda with sort of elements of a nationalist movement, pushing anti DEI legislation, amplifying folsome racist rumors like the fact that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating and everything. So I don't know how these people get out of bed I mean You know, like you say, it's not really in them, which I guess is a plus and yet they are happy to perpetuate it. because here's what he popped up with the other day on Twitter. Henry Novak died the same way a civilization dies. Noise. abbandoned handcuffed by authorities who neither trusted nor cared for him and accused of hate crimes he did not commit, that bit is true His murder is as tragic as it is inraging That it is also true He should still be alive today and he would be this bit. If the last few generations of European elites had stood their ground against the politics of self hatred and the wait for it Mass invasion of migrants manyany of whom despise the West and the people who love it Maria and I will say what we think of that in a second. But first, here are the brilliant Marsh family with their reaction to JD Vance's tweet in song form When this world just seems all full of worry How to end the wars and reconccile Here comes Vance that breathing human slurry National disgrace trademark st So don't tell me he don't know that he's deceiving Come out and inflame on basaceless ground He shows no compassion for the griven. When they said they didn't want around We don't look li And as for li you stand The more you talk we realize The Jan evances how civilization li He' a ban at that one W D done Marsh family. Absolutely Zinger. Just a lovely way to say what we want to say actually. Yeah urry, I think they use the I just also think again, like get your own house in bloody order. John Sol was quite good in this. He said It was terrible, Mr. Vice President, what happened and lessons will be learned But here's a thought maybe concentrate instead on why forty four thousand Americans died last year from gun related deaths. And what can be done about your dreadful disease before you start lecturing others? And on that trawllers at time of recort It's been reported that nine people have been injured at a shooting England's World Cup camp in Missouri. someomeone called Fisted awayay wrote over the top of it Please be respectful of the host nation's culture and traditions. But it's so that' sweet from France.' so it's so bnicious and the thing is it's blaming That murder of Henry on mass migration.'s everyone you know, Tralers that you know that has come to this country. that's my parents.'s everyone that's come to make a life, That's all your neighbours and he's blaming that. And you know what the worst thing was about that Nigel Farj tweeted it. We tweeted it. of course he bloody did. And also it's like, okay, so the killer was a British guy. So your point is just absolutely moot. As you say, imagine being anybody with black or brown skin. you know J Just listening to that thing sorry, beg your pardon. Fucking what. What' this self hatred about? What is this self hatred about as white people, like how are we How are we self hating How are we like discriminating against ourselves? How are we making things worse for ourselves We're not we are addressing inequalities over c nose there needs to be a reset. This self hatred bullet. someomeone actually mentioned I saw the tweets at. It was a man that said, I'm a white man in my forties. I don't think I've ever once been discriminated against Where does all this pathetic victim have come from? Yeah. Oh it was a tough day at the office talking about this on vine yesterday because I think to give people an inch, you have to say, look, that particular very stupid incompetent police officer might have had DEI training and just been like, Oh yeah and so stupid that he's gone to this crime scene and not looked at it properly and just believed the guy. I mean, it was just a complete massive fuck up. So if there is any criticism to be made, it's of incompetent police work. That's it. It's got nothing to do with immigration Anyway, David Lamy did a good job on this. Here he is on Laura Kosberurg I've spoken to JD Vance. I spoke to him yesterday And I told him he was wrong This has got nothing to do with mass migration One, let's be clear that obviously since the early two thousands and post Brexit, migration has come down, but mder murder has come down too, actually in our country. to The young man who perpetrated this crime was a Bit born and raised in this country. did nothing to do with mass migration. What did you say to him? I told him he was wrong. Now, we had an agreeable conversation, but we've disagreed, we've disagreed before on his perspective on Western civilization. I don't recognize that perspective. and actually Western civilization always been open to the world, whether it was the Byzantine world, the Levant world, The Silk Road has always influenced Western civilization. So I don't agree with his caricature. He knows that. and we can have that debate and that discussion. Do you think that he was being Pro provocative they were deliberately do you think he's being racist think I reminded him that the family have called for calm Don't want. division used on the back of. He said. And two, I reminded him also of the online space and how toxic that can become. So we had a robust conversation, a respectful conversation. We remain colleagues and friends were able to do that. and he has strong held views. That was good work from Lamida. Satam Sangera wrote I know we should respond to the trolling, but Vant' implying that Siks are part of a mass invasion of migrants when they fought in the tens of thousands for the British in two worldld wars, and even the Indian mutiny is And then he's done like the vom face emoji several times. Absolutely, absolutely. B and large, you're always going to get a rotten apple in a barrel of apples right. By and large the Sikh community are peace loving. And as Satanam said there, I think in the Second World War there were three hundred thousand Sikhs and they were like volunteers who went into battle for our country. So absolutely T one and tragically, as reported by Scottish paper The National, New attacks on Sikhs have taken place up and down the country, every day since Viram Dgwis was sentenced for the murder I mean, what's wrong with people? Because also again again, it's the stupidity. We sit at the top of the show, right? It's that you can listen, you can listen, you can empathize, you can try and understand. And then there's people you're never getting through to. These are the people that it's like arguing with a fucking pigeon. Yeah. There was one, there was one I saw the guy, the murderer Henry's murder, was someone posted a picture of it with the caption The face of Islam. Like they don't even know one religion from the next, Jema. Oh God almighty, I know. And actually, Big Jam's London wrote, a sat guy kills a white boy and white officers ignore his dying calls. but somehow this has become about Muslims and black people. What a country. I also just want to point something out. So Ian Dunn is fantastic. He's such a brilliant writer, every on Substat, go and follow him And he was talking about how Again, I always complain about the press in our country, but just notice When it is a story that suits reforms narrative. It gets amplified. It is literally it's quite literally like the press in our country. are the propaganda wing of reform Why does our press not have the same coverage when it is the other way around? And to that point, Tommy Biscits wrote Cick's watchatch What time does the pure cold rage start for this one And it was covered by ITV News and the headline was Cocaine fueled knife attacker jailed for life for killing Saudi student in Cambridge. Now Trawlers, you've just heard that headline Did I mention what Racey was? Does the headline mention what Racey was Is the headline mentioning his color It was a white British, seemingly cocaine fueled knife attacker Why is it not across all of our papers that there is a male violence issue? In fact, why is there why is there not the fact that so many women are dying at the hands of men? far more that die at the hands of Sikh people or Muslim people? Why is that not dominating our press Is it because it's not helpful to the party that these people Press barons want in power. Can we just call it what it is as well? It's just fucking racism. I'm so bored of tiptoeing around it and not being able to say that. I can say it here. It is. And I was on tellelly yesterday with a chap and he kept going on about, you know, well, there is a problem with uncontrolled immigration, immigration, immigration, immigration. I'm just thin if you're black or brown and you're watching this or you know, you just be thinking I feeling really vulnerable. And actually one woman wrote underneath. she was just like, I am so tired of hearing this shit So tired of it Take your vile prejudices away. and it's just bolls anyway. We've always had immigration. we're all king immigrants in one way or another. It's ridiculous. Also, immigration is so way down. Honestly, it won't be that long before we haven to asked people to come over again to keep the country running. We went from nine hundred thousand Gemma, nine hundred thousand Tories, by the way, following Brexit, Labours brought it right down, not that we agree with their methods by the way, because some of them have just been stupid and arbitrararyies hit target But it's way way down to about one hundred twenty thousand. Also, Fraser Nelson, who I'm liking more and more now he's at the Times versus the Sctator, but he is all about painting a picture of the truth of Britain. And he shared how he shared a graph which shows how this is just exploitation of a tragedy. And actually he's pointed out in his graph that migrants have not led to a crime surge. In fact, as our immigrant population has gone up Guess what? Our surveyed crime has gone down and that's across England and Wales. Yeah. let's end this section with one rather horrifying point, I'm afraid Somebody called QQTX wrote, Since Henry Novak's horrific murder Fty women have been killed in the UK by a partner or a former partner Tumble weeed While every other channel is fighting for your customers' attention, podcasts are where they've already given it No one accidentally listens to a podcast for forty five minutes. They choose to be here. They trust the voice in their ears, and when that voice talks about your brand, it doesn't sound like advertising. It sounds like a recommendation from a friend. ACast gives you that trust at scale. Digital precision, host read authenticity, and performance data that proves it worked Don't fight for attention. buuy it with ACast. Learn more by visiting Acast d. com slash advertise Right. someome underratedated Yes indeed. I like this one. like It's about a global trend, which I hope will catch on. I don't have much faith, but you know, it'd be great if it did. Femisizen wrote I hope the next global trend will be empathy and critical thinking That'd be nice, Jemma. Very good. And I've got an under it clip of the week I actually wented to put this in last week and I was like, Do you know what? we ran out of time carrying it over because It's so good. I love a debate when someone gets schooled beautifully by facts. like I think it's kind of like my paorn really, really do take quite a lot of satisfaction from it. And I don't know the name of this guy, so please if you want to at me and let me know, but he's on the street and he is speaking with some guy called, I think it's a guy called Danny Tomo who appears to be some right wing Bellnd. Anyway, in this debate, listen to the beautiful obliteration. So you don't believe that children young children are married to Muslen in Muslim countries. So you're saying the criteria that you have is that Middle Eastern countries, that's where you take people to be following their religion properly. Yes, frrankly, I don't agree with that criteria becausecause if I was to use that same criteria for yourself, if I take, for example, Vatican, where you've got so many Christian leaders that are molesting children, so I'm going to use that as a yardstick to measure you. and I don't think that would be fair. Or if I take America. So in America, if I take that as a yardstick, where you've got a majority of the states that actually don't have an age of consent, where there are children as young as twelve They' getting married. And if you look at that proto evangelum of James, Christians believe historically Mary was twelve when God impregnated her. So they justify that and they're getting married as young as twelve. I can theseays I'm talking about right now as well. They can't marry a child in Eng. You can in the United States. Listen, if that's true, then that's wrong, but I'mking England. I'm talking about Islamic countries to judge me by So I'm going use to judge you I love it. You could see he was that the guy I think is Tomo or whatever. He's like sort of scraping his beard like sh I don't don't quite know how to get out of this one. they're just so I love it when they when their ignorance, when their racism is just just revealed and they've got nothing, nothing to say back to it. This one, funny snarky memes humor depressing. Explaining to children that they shouldn't worry about a career because the world will be completely unlivable in fifteen years time and death will be a sweet relief from living in a nuclear wasteland is probably the hardest part of working at Build a Bear.. I like you to put something like that in. That's more me vibe. I've got another one. I've got another one and this one, it spoke to me so freaking much ' this, I mean, even just in this week alone, two things have happened to me. Okay, my therapist says posted I am not, and I can't stress this enough person you should put on speaker phone. is so true. So I have I've had to say to Gemma now If I can't listen to this in front of my kids or my husband You need to put a little emoji, which is the headphones emoji before the voice note It's a strong start sometimes. yeah. It's just a strong start of some kind, isn't it? I did it the other day. I ph my mate Laura. She's in the car. She's like, Hey and I went straight in with something So I unbelievably inappropriate. I' not going to say it here. And then she goes, Olivia's in the car' her daughter. and went
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