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Right now, save twenty five percent on your first order at Zazle dot com dot That's twenty five percent. savings on your first order at Zazzle dot comot Go make something amazing Zazle dot com d What's going on everybody? Welcome back to a special episode of The Vile Files. Is it I don't, is it rally recap dition? Is it like the more You know edition Ooh, it's interesting Fine. Love Island, chit chat, but also everything you've ever wanted to know about GLP one Tdy makeovers Yeah Tiddy. It's a girls up. If the girl preferred the girl. Let's the guess who is a man. but But Yeah for the girls for the girls. Okay. Yeah. Well, aren't the men also interested in GLP ones and the future of AI in modern medicine? Yeah, that's actually. And what is the thing he was calling it? The phenomenon of like Aging more gracefully? Longevity? Longevity. Yeah Longevity. Yeah for the girls and the guys who like get it You know? Well, we do have the world renowned plastic surgeon, Dr. Terry DBrro is with us who I like to think we're friends. I think he's very cool. He seems like he's friends with you guys. I was like, can I get in on this? Can I come to dinner next? I want like the doror Terryeibro to be like my mentor.. You should just ask him to be. I think I'm going to. Wait, I love that. An they want to go out to dinner? I want I want tona go out to dinner. Yeah. Like without the wives. Oh. for sure. Yeah Okay. I wantan to have like locker room talk with Dr. Terrye Brro.ure. And I'll go with Heather and we can talk like diamonds and stuff that Heather likes to talk about. I love that. I was gonna say though after yesterday's episode, locker room talk, What does that entail for you? Oh Yeah I don't know. I'll have to ask Terry, you know' even my mentor, you know? Yeah, exactly. Well, you know, there's so much conversation in the world these days about GOP ones. I honestly don't know much about them. I think with a lot of modern medicine kind of crazes. There's always a lot of skepticism. Is it safe When things kind of come out fast, you know, there's always a lot of discourse online, conspiracy theories, misinformation, yadda yadda, yada. We've always been fascinated with plastic surgery, also like AIs, very scary stuff, potentially, but also maybe be super beneficial. Like how will AI play a role in like our ability to age more gracefully? you know, what's the future of minn medicine? doctor DeBrou is someone who pays a lot of attention to stuff, and he also look like a highly successful man, which I find to be fascinating. He was very also just entertaining. So he graced us with his presence and had a fun conversation about all this stuff. I think you will all find it incredibly interesting Before we get back to Bro, we did have an episode of Love Island last night. It was Casa night. Suzie And some members of the household actually in Los Angeles, the greatreater Los Angeles area, the theaters opened up.. It was kind of lit. It was fun. It was fun. It honestly made me realize how many girly pops just like want Girl time Like, one girl we met you was it the girls night It wasn't like for the boys. There were a couple of boys there, but like single boys with other boys or were they men coming with their ladies? It was either men with their ladies or the girls in the gays. You know what I mean? Yeah And it was it was really sweet. L It wasn't a lot of Zy and Brices and like boy Banduff No, not not so much that. Yeah. But it was just like, it was sweet. you guys like It makes you realize how important female friendships are. Yeah. Like one girl was like, oh, I got off work and I live pretty close to her. so I went home and like changed into my sweats and like I just want to be with people and and watch it with other people. And and it was funny, like the girl beside me wasn't with us, but I would like look over her and we would like, talk our shit you know and I'm like, Oh, I'm so annoyed And she's like, No, I can't stand this. And I'm like, o This is so nice. I you love that Especially because normally when you're watching a movie in the movie theater, it's like no talk, no one on your phone. No. not no eye contact. Yeah, do not look at me. But this it feels like it was very much like, let's all chit chat. Yeah. everyone was like There's videos we took and like people are like doing this kind of thing with her hand, like fist pumping in the air. and it was ye it was really cute. We love a community. That's why we do this. When the episode finished though, I will say I was kind of like, that feels like a weird episode to of put in theaters One girl literally was like, wait, is there more? Like is this an admission? And then she was waiting outside? like are we going back in? She was like I thought it was like is credit. the feedback you heard of not necessarily critiquing the episode because it was I mean, listen, there'sty some episodes and' all going to be home runs. but we felt like there was a lot of expectations. This was a night where the theaters did open up. It was it was it was Csta night. so we will obviously talk about the episode itself. But I am curious in terms of just like hanging out with all these people who are there to obviously spend time with their friends, but to Obviously, you know, the water cooler talk and to compare notes, what were some of the biggest like takeaways or themes or sentiments that you heard from the audience about how they feel about the show, like individuals, couples, things like that. I think I would say almost everybody is kind of vibing the same way we are Everyone wants Anaya to find somebody. likeike everybody when we were like, who do you want to see explore Anaya, Anaya Anaya? She needs to ditch KC. like she needs to go out and find somebody. L I feel like the Message has been similar There were a couple singers in there, like some people just really like certain contestants, like some people really don't like Kenzie And I've seen that too. And I kind of She's a big personality. She's a big personality. I get that she may like rub people the wrong way, but I also I was saying to somebody last night I was like You kind just have to like take her at face value, like She's funny AF. Like she's gonna to jump into the splits and you have to expect the splits from her. Expect You can't be like, oh my God, she's splitting again. It's like, hereere goes the splits. Yeah she's pretty transparent. She's like, listen, if you want a happy Kens, I just need the split. I need to dance. It's literally I need attention. It's like I got to dance and I got to show my shit off and like I'm happy Okay. Do That's what you Richards Kenzie last name from Love Island. two queens who can do the splits, then I think it's really important to have them on team. Do you think Kenzie actually did that though? I was like before the villa. because I was talking to someone. I was like, this has to be a bit that she decided going into the villa that I'm going to do as many splits as I can. ' I've never seen that in real life. No. Chambliss did a split at our wedding reception and she's like like I feel like the people who can do splits. They show it off Like have you ever do? Do you any ability to do any party tricks? I don't And I would love one. L my whole life growing up, it was like I could wish I could do a backflip. Or the worm or something. The wor I feel like the worm is I was just about. It's overplayed but if you can do it, you're looking for a reason. You're like it's that Ross Geller where they're like, you should play. You're like, no, no, no. Okay, you know, like you want you want to be like that ' I can do it. But did someone mention the worm D some else if someone could do the work? Can you do the work? I was just saying that what I would do if I could do the work. Oh, I was like, Are you about to do the worm? No. I was gonna leave. was be I was gonna lock in. And the splits is, you know, clearly no one else can do the splits because there's no one else in the villa being like Yeah, actually can. Oh my God, imagine if Kata one day is just like Watch by the way. Byith the way, that would be awesome D or the guys. So outside of Kenzie, who else is rubbing people the wrong way? Exactly. Yeah, Zack was a heavy hitter. People are a little annoyed with Zack. Casey, obviously, people are just like same thing we're saying. Everyone's like, it's okay to be open. We want you to be open, but you've been shady about it. sincere But I feel like people are like annoyed with him and It's really just Is there any guy ry People love Bryce. People love Bryce. People love Bryce.t Even after this episode. Even more Really Well, I guess because yeah they gave him a good little edit there in Sad boy it. Sad boy edit But he was a huge like I was really shocked. I was really like, oh, everyone wants Bryce and Trinity to work out And I was like, just feel like there's not anyone there. Who's the new guy is making that with at the end of the episode? I don't know any of the casa's names yet. But a new guy that Trinity was making out with theirir vibe with each other just seems way more Cory. way more chemistry too. you know, and he has like This is at Corery. a man who's like Passions are fashion. that he still giv a like a and I'm curious I was before you came in. I was like I'm curious what you would natally think. But like I the more we're learning about Bryce and Zach, this obviously Bro Mance and there's been a lot of discourse online about like, Is there more to it and yada yada yada And we obviously talked about that yesterday where it's just like, I think more adolescent boy behavior despite Bryice being twenty nine. But then like I was reminded that like Zach is like literally was like my hero is Zaye from one direction, which I like Zane, but like hero Boy Band Ho. And then find out last night that like Watching Spider Man get it for him is And it's just more like, again, this is very it's That like paints a picture of like, again, adolescent boy energy. And I'm just curious for the ladies, is that something that you find I mean, I like Spiderm Man as much as the next guy, but there's a softness to Bryce and Zach And even like what Zach is, he's certainly willing to open his mouth, but he is a bit whiny. He's always kind of like centering his insecurities. anyytime Kata's like doing anythingthing. where Kita is just not like she's not like that. She is a, you know, she gives off this confident energy. sameame thing with like Trinity. Yeah. And I just feel like I don't know. likeike I just I like a Trinidity and Cuery and I feel like that's just like Trinity and Bryce, they both seem like really nice people I don't know. And like I don't know, Bryce has no arere you talking about like a little bit of swag? A little of swag. Yeah, a little like u, you know, I know you're going to be respectful, but what what I don't know. Yeah. I don't need I don't need swag. like When a guy has it I'm like, oh, that's nice. If he's got everything else going on, like if he's got all the character values of somebody that I want to be with and then he's like got a little like a little bit of that or a lot of that, I'm like amazing. I can do without it, but everything else has to be there. You know, like I can As long as he's a good person, he's funny, like we have to have chemistry I don't need you to be like cool I mean, I do think I do think Bryce is cool. He just s he doesn't have like is it sex appeal maybe? When Caleb The night before, as Nallally pointed out, came out and was like Sread your legs, ladies. Yeah. Caleb is a guy who from what we've seen so far, seems like a gentleman. He's got the sweet demeanor Yeah. He seems really kind. but in that moment, he kind of gave the Oh he might fuckike, you know what I'm saying L fucks. Yeah You don't like he tied her hands up and feel like yeah, he Bryice and Zach don't kind of give the You know, but that's not for me to say, you know? And I'm just curious if the ladies in the room have No, I know a lot of girls that like love a nerdy boy. Yeah, I don't know it's even the nerdy boy Not not even nerdy though. No Yeah, sorry, I mean a sensitive Like I'm friends like I'm friends with a lot of those guys and I know their're girlfriends And so and I think they just like want to feel like and taken care of in Like listen I think there is a big difference between Carl our new Casagai and Case and Bryce. Yeah. Carl is like the nerdy sensitive, sweet. The one who taught her Chinese. Oh my go. What a great conversation. What What Obsessed. I deserve. And it was like what what we've been waiting for. Yeah. And I think honestly nick to your point, the Bryson Zach thing is more relevant to me a little bit with like Kasey and Anaya because I'm like I think Bryce and Zach both Zach specifically To me is like very, he seems immature. and he seems like's a very w. Like I'm expecting to go if he were to show me his bedroom Like I wouldve if I would believe if he' the parents and I would believe if there's like a Spider Man pillow. Race carar bed. And a one direction poster. No, no Sid. That's giving me the ech. even. I feel like a guy in his mid to late twenties, like again, I'll listen, I love Love Madonna and Brittney Spears, like I will jam to that shit to the point where he does give my wife the gg, but like it is not something that I'll be like, you're not going to lead with that unloved. I'm not gonna lead with that unloved of your personality. Y ye. O my hero. But I it's likes it's a literal guilty pleasure. Yeah. I think with someone like Casey, Kasey is gonna like pretend He's not that guy but then kind of is You know what I mean? a little like he has that that He's aware of it. He's aware of it a little bit and he's like goofy and whatever, but still a bit immature. And then you have Carl who obviously we've only gotten like thirty seconds of screen time from him, not very much, but he seems to just be like Calm sure of himself and wanting to like kind of take care of an eya. And I think none of those boys over on boys over trying to get what these casa girls are looking to take care of them. way the way the men in this episode We're talking about like gripes and complaints about the women in the villa as if they didn't just like get out of the strip club that was like It was like, what do you Corbin, do you not remember saying I'm going to leave this island with someone else? What are you doing pointing out Kenzie's red flags? Like it just makes No sense in the way these kind I don't know. I actually had a few red flags I was gonna bring up to her before I came to CSa. Like and what were they? Let's hear them. Let's hear them. Oh, her splits. Yeah. I'm sure maybe he's got some like questions, but they were just like Clearly they as if like that What the women got to watch and what they were doing with with the bombshells is I guess like a freebie or it doesn't count or 'ause it's a challenge. Well, yeah, him being like, arere y'all gonna kiss outside the challenge? And they're all like, well, I feel like you have to to just like see if it's there to try it out. And then you have sincere in the morning then be like sincere, didid you kiss? And he's like, Yeahah, I had to. You had to? You had to. God I hate it when I just to. Meanwhile Melanie is like sitting on the yellow couch I miss my man. I miss my man. Everyone booed in the audience at that part. Yeah. said I miss my man. When the girls were like, I miss my man, we all were like boo toomatoes. Can I ask you a question about what somebody reacted to at the screening? When Ti, after she was making out with Casey, came back in and was like, My man, my man, my man. What was the reaction it was Iicky silent. you know, like no we weren't really it wasn't booze. Okay because we don't know TT well enough. Yeah. And are we also like not happy that Casey's like getting Listen I was a little disappointed in an e. The other night, she's just like talking her big game, you know, she's like, you can do that. I'm going do this, blah blah, blah, blah, blah. And that energy Where did the energy go? then one night of like He in case he is at this point embarrassing enough I'm sorry, you know, And she deserves better. Yeah. like she's got she's got to follow through This man was begging for women that he wanted to make out with. And he got that. This is a man who's been horned up for weeks And and talking about his feelings with Anayah while regretting not making a move on Soul. And this is the result of that. And it's like at this point, yo, it's just like he should know at this point if Anah is someone he wants to invest in. It's clearly not. And then then you see that the women he's interested in Wh like Anayah's Energy is different than these bombshells And if he's into these bombshells, like he doesn't I don't, you know, like I do feel like this is a qu qu, Carl. Yeah, like And Nyia is like, she's a serious person, you know? And I mean that in such a compliment come to, you know, she she knows what she wants. She's And and G Carl is like, yeah, he there's a sense of maturity and like, you know, essence of like Carl doesn't need to just say something to because he knows it sounds good and it's going like That's Casey has been like doing that. Yeah. Casey is like saying the things he's supposed to say. I think Carl is just speaking from like his genuine self. But you need you need at this point An Na needs to like follow through on how she wants to like carry herself and have that self respect that she says she has for herself and she needs to show it. She needs to like move on. like a day later and you're commiserating with Melanie about how you miss your men after watching them And Melanie saw the lip licking of sincere. It's just like, I don't know. like yeah, she was like, I hope he's just having fun. I mean, I'm sure he he was, but like that was a kind of like Yeah. I would be mortified. And I've done some mortifying things on TV. if if if if I had this like licking of my lips on TV. Like I don't want to I don't want you to see my like O face. Yeah You know I'm actually just so shocked at how open people are I really think it's It's so jarring. Like I know I said this yesterday, but I'm like, it's almost, It's like giving porn Like it's really just it's so crap. And it's really it's funny because it's like Gen Z has this whole and I've been seeing a lot of stuff about Love Island and like the couples Island thing and like people theorizing because like as Gen Z goes on reality TV, there's like, you're afraid of sex Right. All that to say that I find it very interesting on Love Island that like it is so much the performance of sexuality versus like actual romic and intimate relationships. And so it's like able and I do think it's like as we get younger, in reality TV, it's like you're having people that know how to like perform sexuality and this oversexualized, hyper sexualized version of yourself, but it's like when it comes to just actuallyually like having in relationship all F stars. You know how to like give us the Yeah. and that's why like Love Island to me seems like the most terrifying in the world because it's like It's like two things that are scary. onene, performing sexualization of yourself, right? And two, like actually, if you want to be good on the show, authentically being vulnerable with another person on TV, whichich is like and I think that's the thing that it's like people are choosing the hypersexuality on the violent versus the scarier thing, which is beinging vulnerable with someone on TV That is such an interesting take about the performing of sexuality because This happened last season, I think or maybe it was one before where We were pointing out, people were in these challenges literally like doing, it looked like sex And then they would go to bed at night and they'd be like Okay, but like we did this and or like this happened. they'd talk about like really like way less sexual things like making out. Like making out outside of a challenge was a huge deal, but it's like meanwhile, you're grinding on somebody like fully almost having you're sixty nine. You're sixty nine somebody And then they leave and then they're freaking out over like making out. And I'm like Well a lot of people have compared this show, like people compared the Bachelor to like the Stanford Prison E experiment. Do arere you guys familiar with Stanford Prison experperiment? Yes. It's a very famous experiment where a Stanford perent profess basically got a group of students and made half the students prisoners and half the students guards, guards. And then it created this kind of atmosphere and and just kind of watched what they did and like the They leaned into their roles. So basically the prisoner the guards really became very authoritative and like almost abusive. and like the prisoners like lost the sense of agency and really became more like compliant and things like that all because of this very controlled environment that they were in. So like it didn't take it took very it look like took like two days or some crazy stats about like when you really control an environment change like irstances To change circumstances, people really buy into that universe very quickly So it just goes to show like on the on Love Island, everything you talking about is very much like that where like and like in the bachelor, right? Like very quickly you're just like okay with your friend poulling the person you're claiming to be falling in love with and you're okay with that person spending three individual nights if you're in the final three potentially hooking up and you're just like all you just, you just decide that's okay. And it's fascinating just how quickly we can just change the rules in our head by the environments that we're in craz you Oh my Godd Yeah, go ahead. Wait, Ohh my God, before before we get to the guests Did you guys see one of the twelve bomb showlls that apparently got fried by his ex girlfriend of three years for going on the show? I wanna hear about that, but first I want just I thought the twelve bomb showlls was a giant bomb. Yeah. It felt flat. It was way too much B roll. like all those scenes where you're seeing them like dancing at a party, that is B roll. That is them being like, that is the director coming in being like, all right dance and they and so most of what we saw was like fake hanging out. Yeah and it just felt a little flat. We didn't see even the jumping in the pool, I'm like that was it was very choreographed where I'm like, sure they got time together have a challenge or something. When then you think about how they actually had to go about making that. So like you're spending no time getting to know each other. They're just doing be And then it looked like Ariana came in at seven PM and was like, all right Time to pick your picks. Who's it gonna be? Right. Yeah, that was that was disappointing. And I honestly think if they were going to do a Casa M Nnight in the theater, they should have done it the night before because we were hyped after that first Casa M night And then that did fall a little short. I feel like everyone was kind of like, Damn why bring all these people in if you're just gonna send half of them home? What happened with one of the guys who goes at home? Basically what happened is I saw TikTok that this guy had this girlfriend of three years and told her that he was going to Miami or somewhere to make money And so he leaves. and then she sees him on as a bombs show on Love Island And so she's like, well, what the fuck And then come to find out after watching the episode last night. Like she has pictures with him in a baseball game, like days before he left Like it's like crazy. I feel like if you've been dating for three years and he's like, hey, I'm going go to Miami to make some money, like red flag question questionarkike take honestly like I don't The only mistake he made is lying I agree He should have told her, I'm going on love Island. Yeah. because if your partner wants to leave like, first of all, again, this is an incredible opportunity. It's a This is a perfect example of what I tell people when they're like, you know, when they go on reality TV, they're asking for advice. I'm like, listen, there's no guarantees, but is this is a lottery ticket with amazing odds because most lottery tickets it's like one in a mil or one in three hundred mill or whatever. But like This is like one in forty. And and you might really be able to cash out or you might be the guy who shows up for twelve seconds and nothing happens. but like and get driripped online by That's worth saying yes to. And you better, if you're in a relationship and you get that opportunity And you're going to say no for the relationship That is your person You better marry him. You know what I'm saying? Like And if not, like if you've been having problems, like, you know, just he should have been honest, but like Clearly that guy was looking for a way out. You know, and he shouldn't go back together with her. And she she shouldn't take him back Yeah. Well, I mean, maybe if he had made it a little farther in the villa, sure maybe she could take him back but like know. But the fact that didn't even speak. That was a favorite like the universe gave her an answer. Yeah You know, like you. If she was asking for did this and you got sent home? She gott least be good.. Nick, I have a hotter take than yours I think if that really is your true love and you get the offer to go and love violin on the flip side You better let them go. No. because that is your cash cow. If they blow up, that is your inheritance. If they bl up Im like they are in a relationship with someone el. Yeah. That's fine. How you blow up. They could do it for a year and then come back and have the brand deals, you know? No. That's That's c. That' not' love because they're lying. No, but if you're in it's a business arrangement. Yeah. That is a business a business. But if you're in on it Every life in Love Island lies about the couples. Well first of all, let's Jane. That's not that was. Oh, Kenny specifically. I'm just saying, you made it imply that they they were in koots. Yeah, they were together. No, yeah, apology. Kenny. Let's crot her over. Let's take that Kenny. That's not a pickup.. All right. well, we'll obviously get more Love Island and we'll contining you to talk about Tmorrow we have Gabe or Gabriel from Love Island to talk about his experience. Obviously him. And sooul have a lot to say. I am sure he has even more to say now after watching some of these episodes unfold. and we have the pleasure of having Gabe on our show tomorrow. But right now it's Dr. Terry DBrro talking about all things modern medicine all your burning questions about the topics that we are most confused about and he is up next. But before we get to Terry, don't forget that Valfes Pus is available ad free and full of great content. So go to valfiles. com to sign up How old were you at your first O Yeah Something like that I that. What's the age difference from you with other tenen ten years She would say ten and a half. Okay She would emphasize that extra half here. Well, Dr. Terry DeBau, thanks for coming. Thanks for having me. I'm very excited to see you guys.' very excited. We had the pleasure of having dinner with Terry and Heather a few months ago. and is telling Nally is this the cause in I'm such a fan. Obviously just, you haven't been on before and you're obviously a legend in the reality TV space, which we like to cover, But there's so many things out there in medicine these days. Yeah. And you were kind of talking a little bit about them when we were having dinner, things like GLP ones, how AI is being incorporated into health carere, how doctors are using it. I think there's just a lot of fear and unknown about these things are GOP on say, you know, they all, you know, we live in a conspiracy era kind of world, but sometimes, you know, sometimes it is good to ask these questions and challenge authority and and things like that. So anyways Th thought it'd be fun to bring you here. I'm excited to talk to you guys. I've met you a long time ago. You don't remember the first time I met you I think I might Hllywood. Yes, yes. And we were like sitting in the wait room. And it was like you and Heather and I knew who you guys were. and I was like I'm always awkward in those moments and I don't really say hi. No you saidi was nice. It's great to see that. Well, I obviously being pregnant with twins and like ready for my mommy makeover after. So I have so many of just like plastic surgery questions. Right, but you're not could do tillil you're done, right? No mommy makeovers to your complete T. L No like not even, not even. job Well, the general rule I tell people is if you're thinking of having a kid in the next two years Don't do it becausecause it's just gonna to change everything. I heard rumor that like if you get a breast augmentation and then have one more kid, it kind of like softens them a little and makes them look a little bit more natural. I just saw a girl who had this. I won't name names because she is public and I was like never seen anything better in my life because they just They just sat so natural that I was like I want that. That's pretty rare. R I think Yeah, I think if you go for example, from a small B to a full C You've stretched out your skin. Then you get pregnant. now you're engorged with milk. And this year now what a double D Th then you stop breastfeeding orr you don't breastfeed, but anyway, it goes back down to a seboard. happens to the skin Now you need a lift. Interesting. So now you need removal of skin and scars Better to wait. If you're gonna to have kids in the next two years, don't touch the tummy. or the breasts Don't do anything. So she processing right? She' like, Oh my God I have so many appointments I have canceled. She' some information. she just canceled that one. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Okay. So okay, another question. Axillary incision. Is that becoming I feel like I'm starting to see that a lot Tran Axillary breastation.. So there are many ways to put it in, to insert them. You can do what it used to be when it first came out through underneath the breast the infra memory crease Then we started doing it through the nipple because that's a good place to cosmetically camouflage it and hide it because there's a color change. Then someone said, you know, let's put it in the armpit. And That was very popular for a short time because Generally we like to put them under the muscle And it's hard to release the muscle down here where the pectoralis muscle inserts. from that far away. So very commonly, because you can't release them that much, they kind of can sit high And then If you flex like you're at the gym, they go And that doesn't look good. So transr Axillary is not popular anymore. For a while, we were doing it through the belly button, transilical Yeah. You never heard of that. Make a little incision. but then a few people, this is a little graphic, put that tube in through the heart. Oh ye. And we all would o may probably shouldn't do it that way either. Yeah. So yeah now. The most popular way now, I think, is through a tiny incision underneath the cr Yeah, it's small you can do a precise operation that way But there's a new implant by the way. I you have to ask. You know it? I've heard of it, and I've heard it's like one of the best options. It's awesome. It's called motifiv. The problem with breast augmentation is that They get hard. even when you do it perfectly under the muscle And you don't go too big, don't traumatize tissue too much The immune system can come by later and go, yeah, I don't like you. And ten to fifteen to thirty percent of the time it decides now and he puts scar tissue around it and gets hard and displaces it So there's a new implant that was available in Europe. Now it's FDA proroved called Motiva Your audience should only get Motiva.. There's a less theoretically, a less than one percent chance of getting hard Anne, isn't it easier to take out without having like as much scarring if you needed to get it out for some reason? It is. I mean you make an decision it just pops right out. Yeah That's the implant to get And is that do you have the option of over under or is that like a completely different place? You do. That's a very good point. We used to put them all under because the chance of getting hard under is less, right? So these have such a low rate of getting hard, you can actually put them on top And we could talk about why to put them on top or under, but I'd much rather to talk about GLP one drugs than. So I'm so obsessed with those drugs, right I studied for for a year, took all the courses and took the exam, became board certified by the American Board of Obesity Medicine So I'm a board certified obesity medicine specialist, even though I don't practice it. I'm just so obsessed with these historic drugs they're changing everything. Yeah. So what are the let's start with what are the common misconceptions about GOP ones that through your research on study and education you have found to be completely untrue. That first of all, it's not cheating Okay, It's not it's a really important solve for the number one cause of death in this country which is obesity So it's critical to get on them Beyond that, the number one misconception is that they have all these potential side effects and we don't know what's going to happen five to seven years from now because they're so new. they are not so new. They were used for diabetes for fifteen, seventeen years now So we know exactly they do over the long term. We know what the side effects are What's so fascinating about them that we've learned is that how effective they are for non obesity related conditions for addiction Alzheimer's, fatty liver disease kidney disease and just overall reduction of inflammation. You know, they say suugar is the big thing. Yeah. You know, back in the seventies and eighties When I was a medical student in the eighties, it was all about fat. You need to avoid fat. Fat was bad. Then we rightly discover it's all about as you guys know, sugar. Sugar. Sugar causes a direct pathway to inflammation That pathway, that inflammatory effect is completely obliterated and reduced by the use of these drugs. Wow. So because I have seen things online and I don't know if it's true, but like people have imply that like there's like I cure to cancer, but it helps fight canancer.'s right? Is there truth to that? There's trh. that Reent studies have shown that when you look at tumor growth in patients who've had cancer who have been on the drugs versus those who have not been on the drugs It slows it Wow And that's all the inflammatory effect of sugar in your body. I'm obsessed with them and If you, you know, there's Oh Zempic and Magovi, those was the originals. That's the same drug. It's GLP one Then the double agonus is GLP one in GIP, which is Monjaro and Zep bound same drug. thenen there's the new one about to come. heard of this? You told me about it I told. I've talked ha off. sorry about that. How you loved it. Red Retitrueide. It's actually called retetatru tide, but everyone's calling Reditrot tide. Everyone's calling it Redder It's so powerful and so good that they're already making it illegally Counding pharmacies have said, forget it, we're not even going to wait for the FDA approal already making it. It's a triple agonist. It's GLP one, which is Ozempic, GIP. so it's now Munjaro, right? It's the best one. pllus Luagon, which is a fat burner So it gets for your appetite. it burns fat It reduces inflammation. It's insane. I know two hundred people on it. Wow. Everybody I know is on it. I feel like Jim Bros are on it, which is a little confusing because I'm like, can you build muscle while on these or like easily, I guess? So's that's the right question asked because the problem with these GLP one drugs is sarcopenia, you lose muscle. Normally on a diet, right? you lose seventy five percent fat, twenty five percent muscle on a regular diet plan. When you go on these drugs, it's more like fifty fifty. You lose more lean muscle and lean muscle is the key to longevity, right So when you add glucagon, you fat burn, you retain more muscle which is critical. So it's going to be the first trillion dollar drug Rit true type. It should be out. by the end of this year or the beginning of next year There's another one coming after that that has a muscle grower in it. So how do you choose which one to do? Whichever the latest one is that has all the studies. Okay Yeah that shows the best burning. muscle preservation or muscle growth. these drugs are so Critical and so cool and I'm obsessed with them and I'm obsessed with the peptides. What was the conversation like in the medical sphere when people started when doctors or whoever it was was like, hey, this could like start curing some other things. It was, as you would probably expect, most doctors were suspect.. They thought it was a bad idea We're using a diabetic medication in non diabetics. Why don't people just diet and exercise? And then you guys didn't probably see this but I got a whole thing with Jill and Michaels on the internet. She said, Oh, Zebig is the worst thing. You should just diet and exercise. Did you see the Netflix documentary on your show? Not working, is it You know thing is like people aren't people aren't diet and exercising and like they should be, but sometimes you might need the kickstart and and I'm not saying I'm for against, but I'm like, if it's going to save lives then I would rather sub to your. like a diet. But the definition of a diet is like kind of temporary thing. It's not like a lifestyle change. It's a Does it work? I mean, is there not an epidemic of obesity in this country? Is it been working? J just diet exercise? It's not working. So this what Jillian Michaels and I did, she She was raganozempic and I was saying it's the greatest thing in the history of medicine, the cure for obesity. And then I was walking out of Craigs, you know, Craigs. And TMZ was there. Maybe I had a cocktail, maybe I didn't. They they said, What do you think about Jillian Michael saying Well Zemp is dangerous. And I said, Look, if you're going to get your medical advice from personal trainer I think you're making a mistake. And if Jillian Michaels wants to give medical advice, She should take the MCAT and go to med school. And she heard that started which is right. It seemed like a fairly reasonable thing. The reasonable leal thing Thanks very much. I appreciate that. There is some value in being a doctor. Yeah, you know L there Yeah, the big question is, so, you know GLP one these drugs are peptides So that's what a GOA one is. They are. peptide. There' short chains of amino acids that send like a biological text. to the body do this, meaning in this case Be hungry reduce sugar in the blood, slow down your GI tracks, you get full more easily, right But what about all those? sounds like a Marvel movie where you're like you're like you're making a superhero and you're like injecting these like human performance things and Fascinating way. That's exactly what it is. Just wait til AI starts inventing peptides. Okay? I can't. Is it here, big question. And you probably think about this you're howled? sixty seven. I'm forty five. Yeah, and I'm at, you know, like I'm People say, I look good for my ege look fairly active, but like, you know I'm working out less and less as a dad. you know, I am getting older Will these advances in medicine get here fast enough for us to like live and have like great lives into like our hundreds? For you And certainly for you guys, for you for sure You're in the sweet spot.. You're not going to live to eighty two like I might. And even for me, I might get a few more years. but for you guys You're so lucky to be your age because you ever heard of longevity, escape velocity? You ever heard of this concept? Sure ye Longevity ofcaate philosophy is the concept that Once AI starts getting involved with medicine, which it's about to in a big way For every year you're alive, you get to have another year. In other words, you're gonna to have so many things that are going to augment your ability to reverse aging, to stay alive longer to inform your body of how to act You guys are all going to live to be over one hundred. There's no question about it. Okaykay. People my age range, I say, listen If you're alive, congratulations, but you need to do everything you can preserve yourself. Starting with Well to exercise, lifting weights in my age is the number one, most important thing. You need muscle mass. That's the most critical thing because there are certain programs your body automatically goes through as you get older. The chromosomes tell you at around sixty to sixty three You see people they go from looking okay to all of a sudden, they sort of start to look frail older people That's the frailty gene. It's programmed. We're not supposed to live forever. Well can, I think, if you do it right. So it's the program. It's the program, right? The telomeereres on your chromosomes start to shorten your reparative processes delete. So at sixty And you should do this now. You should start lifting weights, focus on resistance training. It's the single most important thing you can do for longevity. besides taking these peptides. For me, I just want to be preserved enough that when these things come out, which they will in the next three years for sure, that I can take it because if you're too far gone, you know, if you you can take that thing, it's just not going to reverse anything. Right. You're going to just be staying forever at that frail st. Yeah the next twenty years. Well Pepides as sort of a category in general, is that most of the peptides are illegal approved and untested data And because the government said, you guys can't have you can't prescribeptides. We're not allowed to prescribe the unapproved peptides. We're not allowed to So what happens? it forced it in the black market and now it's Jim Bros and chiropractors online going, Wolverine man, it's the greatest stack ever based on what? What do you you know, and they're coming from China and they have heavy metals and toxins There are some for skin. there's some for inflammation, there's some for muscle growth And for growrth factor, none of them are approved and none of them are tested, but everybody's talking about like it's the greatest thing ever So the government said, you know, let's just make it all leegal But if they give it back to us, which hopefully they will in the next couple of months, then we doctors can start prescribing them and try to figure out if they work. but The hot pet tides are You know, I'm sure you've heard of this GHK CU, that one for Sin The probleroblem is nobody knows how to take them. noobody knows what the end pointint is. How do you measure their effect? So We doctors, we know how to do that But we don't prescribe them because it's illegal. So as soon as They give it back to us. Whereere you with Crereatan? s I think that's the most tested supplement is. That's what the most important. But I you keep ding that. For sure. Well how many grams of day do you take? Like five onene scoop One is five. One square. So all the recent data, this is the most tested supplement there is corereatine probably be mega dosing it att least fifteen. So it's to build muscle. Muscle and brain. Brain Yeah. That's good for your brain. It's super good for brain. It came out when I was in college and it was like something like us like athletes and football players.ike I remember we came popular I was in high school and it became popular It was one of those like, should you take it? should you not take? You'd have like a lot of water weight and like football guys would take it and then twenty years later they like, no, actually it's really good for you. Well, that's why Pep, you know, they started and then everybody starts testing and the doctors go, maybe we should into that. Cate team was the first thing we all went. Oh, don't do that. and then we started testing it And it's incredibly powerful and incredibly effective. I'm obsessed with it So I think you should take creatine every single everyverybody should. Females particularly. Really? Really? Yes, because it's all about muscle. You guys need muscle more than we do because you're subjected to osteop rosis bone and less musc you have, less pull on the b bone. less distraction osteogenesis. Or if if you talk to Clavicular, the looks M follow that. Oh, of course I follow it. We got to hear you. You know, he talks about Wolfs Lock. No, Clavic Clav. It seems my read on but like it's a lot of There's a problem with like young men these days and what we're what they're focusing on. Yeah, it's the what SMV, your sexual market value is the most important thing you can do As a teenager like makeake yourself as good looking as possible so that your sexual market value is elevated, so you're now more valuable in society. Is that what you want a thirteen year old to do? You know this guy, right? He he tells everyone the dose of testosterone to take when you're twelve, thirteen, fourteen. Of courses that stunts your growth that makes you sterile Gives you acne, your hair's going to fall out. Don't do testosterone until you're about You're not out it yet, hu? . Can it be safe for the right people? do you see what's happening here? You are' second going on. Yeah come on. no you have objectively better guns than I have. L, you know, TRT testosterone replacement therapy after the age of, you know, fifty I think is really Picularly sixties. If you're sixty plus and you're not on TRT Dude get a little test. G to your doctor who specializes in this. Get get on it, lift some weight. Well, measure testosterone, makeake sure it's low and it's going to be relatively low because We were having some issues with conceiving. I did some blood work a few week years ago and the bloodwor came back like they were like, while, your testosterone iss like a twenty year old U and then it was really high. It was pretty good. Yeah. And then we did check my like my sperm and all that stuff. and they were like, he's perfect. was like great It was like also like pretty good. H. It was like not low. Did you get to look at the microscope and see the sper Heather and I have the same thing, right? We are in trouble conceiving Did you IVF No, we did not. We ended up just figuring out. I have some PAI one, some gene mutation and then Some blood disorder called TG. TeG, okay? That So I did loovvenox. a little blood thinner ac action. Okay. And that's what worked. And you got twins. You got twins. Wow. I believe in this thing. I'm not fertility specialists don't necessarily say this is true, but I think it is true. Once you start having kids, you become even more fertile. It's like you just get better at getting pregnant. Right? So the chances that you're going to get pregnant A short relatively short time after is probably pretty high. W probably might not even take you' only mean conceiving' never been our Well it was, right? You had to have yourself analyzed. They don't sure know now about. But now you know the Lvanox thing. It was It was the egg attached wagul. Yeah, yeah. You I wouldn't be surprised. So you think you have birth control. Now. theoretically by not using those measures to enhance your fertility So you may actually get pregnant a lot sooner than you think because you may not even need the lovanoxes and the drugs to enhance the attachment anymore. We'll see.' How old are your twins Four years. We had a singleton four years later and then we had an accident Those were all IVFs. Oh they were. And our last one was like, who knew that sex actually could result in a baby? I love that. Yes And so yeah, because I don't read it four I know you we just talked about four four is a lot, man I told you before you lose the taxi Yeah. can't put six people in a taxi. So now you need two taxis. car service. It's a whole huge thing. a lot. Yes. I know. I remember when NADs were like the best thing it was like this is reversing aging. Y to have those moved So Oinions vary again, another NAD is? It's like another peptite for energy. Yet another unstudied thing based on rat studies, which by the way, ninety three percent of rat data is not translatable to humans just so you know. So everything Oh, so when you say rat, you literally mean Tested on ratested on rats. Yeah. I thought it was like slang for like garbage data. It's garbage the one study done on humans, it didn't work But it's the number one peptide But any deep A lot of people like it I'm not a huge fan. I've seen a lot of people go to the emergency room taking NAD and getting Oh yeah. I can tell you there was a party at a certain housewiv's house maybe up in LA where off camera and you know all these people obviously, and they had an NAD SS thing set up with an IV And two people went the emergency room total disaster. So I'm not a big fan of NED. I think it causes can cause severe flushing and rhythmias and whether it does increase your energy or not. I mean, you know, it's I think it's pretty split how tried it I hated it You know, I felt it. when I injected sutes and I went Okay, you know, and for like three hours of that, yeah, don't I don't like this feeling. And then other people well your dose was too high. No it wasn't too high. I mean,, you know, I wa almost two hundred pounds and I was using a starter dose I didn't like it, but you know, that's the problem with this. Everything's anecdotal based on this person or that person. So what's the best way? I if you're someone listening this episode and you're interested in some of the things that you're talking about, like You mentioned obviously with go to a doctor. Yeah. But like one of the Yeah, the dos and donts of of this stuff and how to do it safely. Okay Don't go on TikTok and listen to Dr. Mike or Dr. James. By the way, if anybody online social media calls himself Dr. Terry They're not they're a chiropractor. Okay, I can tell you that. And maybe I don't know about spinal manipulation. I'm not a huge fan, but that's probably important and good. they know how to do that. But drugs and medicine and physiology, maybe not Go to a person who's an Mty who labels themselves as a longevity specialist idedally would be an endocrinologist, but very few endocrinologists I know are into this new frontier of W you know of medicine. So go to an internist or It can be anybody. it can be in a urologist, some of the best sort of information out there on YouTube about these drugs are from urologists, wherely because they do testosterone and a lot of drugs for male longevity and so on go to an MD who's into longevity And they the thing about us is we have our licenses to protect So we're going to make sure we don't do stuff that's not that's within reason that's tested and evidence based as possible. And we'll follow you very closely. Okaykay? And we'll prescribe you things through our channels and don't have heavy metals and end of tooxins that are not going to kill you and put you in the ICU which is a thing with these peptides. So go to go to a doctor. and particularly in the next several months because The government is going to allow us to prescribe des legally. That's the big thing. I'm interviewing with a big important newews organization out of Australia tomorrow you know. And because Australia is severely restricting ides to the point where they're treating like opioids. They're treating like heroin. Why do you think? They're just much more conservative than we are in this country And I think there are a few years behind us. So all that's doing is now ors can't even fake it like this Doctors are allowed to prescribe these things for research purposes, which is a whole BS thing that we can get into, but they can't even do that there. So now it has to come from some labs down the street in a warehouse So when you regulate these things very severely, all it does is send it underground to the black market and make it that much more dangerous. So it's about to become something that we physicians will be able to do legally. and we know this stuff Yeah partarticularly guys like me who are obsessed with it I mean, I still probably won't prescribe it just because I'm a little bit high profile and you're lessening, you know onn my phone, you last thing This will go off sometimes and it says TM ZM going, Oh no. And I go What? And they go, No, no, it's not about you. We want to know what you think about this. I go, okay. And then sometimes they go, it is about you. What? What did somebody say? you know, even, you know, I'm a little high profile to be prescribing peptides, I think anytime soon.. But They're amazing. This is the future of medicine, this is the future of longevity. This is the future of health and wells. And as soon as we are able to ask you know, GPT five point nine or point five How do you make better tide. using these anti inflamant. It's going to go and we're about to get greatest peptides ever. so stay tuned. I only doctors should be able to do that How are doctors today using AI in their practice? So I use it a lot And I'm obsessed with it. Well, if you're a radiologist, you're a little screwed because AI is a thousand times better at reading x rays than a radiologist So at image analysis, nothing is better than AI Nothing can read an MRI or a chest X ray or a pathology slide better than AI. So we're using it in those areas. But there are two recent studies. O out of Harvard and one at Cedars where they compared AI analysis of patients coming in to an ER compared to doors analysis and their diagnostic capabilities AI was like eighty three percent better at making a diagnosis than we physicians were in that setting. So I think very soon If you don't feel well, you're going to go into a place. There's going to be a nurse there. and some diagnostic machines and an LLM AI. you're going talk to it. It's going just like you talk don't you talk to Chat occasionally?ure. Yeah. And you're going to go and you're going to tell your symptoms. And they're gonna to take some blood and now there's a robot that Oh't like that. Have you seen this robot There's a robot that actually does ultrasound and sees your vein, puts a tiny little needle right into it and can take your blood Maybe that is better than a person in theory, but like, oh my gosh, the thought of it missing. I'm too queasy. But also I'm like I've had I've had humans miss multiple times. So takeake it from the doctor. as a human. It's probably. So I did four I did five surgeries yesterday, okay O the second one was this sort of This woman who was a little bit older and kind of had nothing to eat or drink as they shouldn't for a few hours. and she was a little dehydrated. they had to stick her to get the IV started like seven times. Well, if, you know, a robot comes in with an ultrasound. amazing. go and puts it right in there. I prefer the robot to it. That's fair. How long will it be before robots better at surgery than humans. If you ask Elon Musk, He says three years, Elon. what are you smoking? It's not going gonna be three years. They can barely move water from one place to another. But I don't have be in fifteen years. For sure. I mean, for eight Yeah. I was a surgical tech for a for years and assisted in some robotics surgery s good That to me is like I mean, they're performing and it's just in the I mean, there is a doctor in there who's like regulating the robotics arms and stuff, but yeah, that's So the fact that we are here now is really easy Yeah It's funny because I was asked the other day They said, well, you're probably going to be safe because robots won't have the artistic judgment that a human, I said Really, haven't you seen the movies that AI is making now. one of my favorite podcasts besides your guys, I do watch your podcast, I'd love it is Whiskerss podcast Have you ever seen Whiskers I guess? It's two cats, AI cats Us on the cats? I'm obsessed with cats. I love cats who talk to each other and they look and they go, smmash your passast. and they look. And then they talk about what it's like to be a cat and how they relate to their humans. I'm obsessed. They look like real cats. Really? Yes.. I don't know. what makes a more beautiful generated girl, AI or a human Yes, I think AI iss going to be a better plastic surgeon than we are. W. No question Really? Yeah, I'm obsessed with AI. I think it's the greatest thing ever. So you're ready to retire Yeah, I could retire. I could retire five years ago. I do it because I as you know, I have a very unique practice. Nobody comes to Terry to Bro for a simple breast augmentation You come with the, you know the the summer you know, summer breasts, some are here, some are there, you know. Do you imagine in different directions? I imagine like well, to that point, like there will be a lot less botched surgeries once AI really gets going in Yeah medicine Yes, but most botch surgeries and because the doctor did something wrong It's because they ran into a complication because, you know Think about, we take a human who's perfectly healthy And we cut into them, disrupt all their blood vessels, move tissue from here over to there just to make them look a little better.. I mean we traumatize people just for vanity. So that goes wrong evenven when you do it perfectly, a certain percentage of time. How often? I mean, obviously we started this conversation with you suggesting an ally just like, hey, maybe Wait a little bit. how often are you talking patients out of surgery Well, I'm in a unique position because I don't have to do surgery anymore. I don't care. You know I do it's fun. I get the coolest cases. I don't care about paying my overhead So I'm super honest. So if, you know A woman comes to me, she's had one kid and she still looks perfect, but maybe her breasts have drooped ten millimeters, you know, a quarter of an inch And I go Really You want to breh You want to put scars on these brereatasts. They're still world class So go really go, yeah, scars. You're going have scars. You're going to see them like, o and most, I think not most, but a lot of surgeons who need to pay pay for their expensive. O our heads would go, Ohh yeah Great. We can do a breast lift. you'll love it. We'll put it in a higher position. Okay, great. You know, it depends where you are in your career. I like to think I was always super honest and I always said Do you really want to put a big scar across your tummy just to make it a little tighter. Have they fixed? I haven't seen your belly button tummy touch. recently But have they made those look a little bit more natural? Yeah, I mean, belly buttons are something you get a lot better at as you get older. So belly buttons are like the nose of the abdomen. If you know, it's off even a millimeter, you go That looks weird. Yeah. Yeah That looks kind of funky. Something's not right. Something's not right. Yeah, where it gets really tricky where Botch just taught me is how to make one when there isn't where they've lost one. That's the skill that just the universe has taught me you how to do to make one And I, you know gotten pretty decent at that. But yeah, so at this point, I do nothing but just impossible surv. Do you just miss doing like a typical breast dog? orould you beot really I wring. So if they come to me for a typical breast dog, I say, you know, I'm a little expensive. You can go down the street and that guy who's two years out of his training will do the exact same thing. I will He's going to make an decision, lift up a pocket, put it in sit you up and go Oh and then and then stitch you up and go, Am I the best? You're the best. Yes. You are doctors. Okay. It's good. It's not a hard operation. Most of these operations when they've never had surgery before, like upper lids. The the same reallyally amazing who are doing these A list celebrities and these beautiful facelifts. doing surgery on these AIist males. Have you seen what's happening with the eyes on the A list? Yes.z? Yes, you You need to mention names becausecause I don't say yeah I won't say There's like four, I can think. As me too. Well, I can tell you the males people are asking me about right So they're asking me about Rradley Cooper. They're asking me about Jim Cery. They're askking me about Adam Levine Okay So why do they look so I don't know. I think they're still amazing talented hugely successful people legendary love them, but when you look Okay, when you look at their eyes, Something's going on lookingoo how the then andou different They look Hmm, There's like an intensity to their eye. Well, they have too much skin taken And here's the thing Look at this So here's the thing Males have upper eyelid skin It's very rare that you have a male who has no access upra. Most, when they're younger and as they get older and have plastic surgery, you see the entire what we call upper eyelid platform. There's no excess skin at all All males have some ling we call it hooding of the upper Isyelids. Okay, great. So if you take a guy who's got some Pudding. excess upper eid skin. he's got a little bit older and then you take it all He never looked like that Yeah. And now you've altered him to a point where he's unrecognizable. I'm curious, okay, not for guys, but for girls considering a lower bluff. would you say get under eye filler before you say do under under blluff? So you know, I just did a TV show on E, which no one saw. Thank you very much called pllastic sururgery reewind W one season. A bunch of celebrities moved into a house together. bunch I saw you didn't cover it on your show by the way. The next time you have a show Beuse you've never heard of it. G us the four hundred e one. We the marketing license. So I know, right Kim Zolziak, her daughter You know, her Yes. And then we had Who was the one with P Diddy and the band, you know? o D They all moved into house to consider reversing their plastic surgery. so That was my new show on E, right? We put Botched on pause and did that show. Thatounds great. Yeah. And they had to go through this whole Michelle Visage from Drag Race was the host. We had a therapist and me and they had to decide whether or not to reverse their plastic surgery. They all hated their face filler. every single one of them. And they particularly hated the filler underne the. becausecause this is the thinnest skin in the body. If you get a little too close to the surface It results in this weird phenomenon called the Tindle effect where you can see it And it's hard to dissolve and sometimes it's not dissolvable at all. Filler in the face needs to be done It is being done a lot less now. but for a while was, you know, we used called the pillow face. Overfill everybody's face And that was the key the liquid facelift. fortunately pretty much over people are not doing as much film anymore What is this new this face lift that like Allegedly Lindseay Lohan. The Dep planane. Yep So the deep plane is you go much deeper Theoretically, as you go closer to the nerves and you pull the entire cheek up rather than through just skin pulling, you get a Not a more natural result because their faces are changing. Let's face it They're before and after. they're almost They look great. almost unrecognizable. but in a good way, some of them, right? So that's called the deepplate. A recent study was published in our number one journal PRS plastic and Reonstruct surgery that compared two thousand deep planes with two thousand regular facelifts where we just do plane called the SAS, there was no difference So, you know key with the facifts go to someone who does a lot of facelifts and you'll get and whatever they want to do. like Br the Chris Jenner Chris Yeahah, Chris Jenner. And a lot of the ones you're seeing from that veryery good surgeon in L.A. They're not doing deeplines None of them. None of they're doing deep planes. So, you know, there's so much sort of retail, it's retail medicine And a lot of what you hear online with a doctor showing there before now. I've been doing the deep plane for thirty years. Really, it's only about twenty years old just a lot of advertising and hyping You know There's no magic to the deep plane faceelift There really isn't So be careful First thing to age is next I think it's your eyes. I think people age in their eyes before the neck tends to loosen Yeah First it's the mid third That's why I, you know, people have their eyes done before they have their neck done But the neck is Obviously a thing that chose your age very significantly You, it's pathetic So when I was in medical school, nineteen eighty two to eighty six, right Um We were taking scalpels cutting people open and disrupting their blood supply and lifting things up and pulling it back and cutting it off and stitching it up I thought Okay I'm getting this is fun, getting good at this, but I imagine two thousands, particularly twenty twenty six, they'll be a different way than taking a scalpel cutting open the face disisrupting the blood supply and putting stitches in. That's exactly still do. How ridiculous. We need AI on that. Well So you know there's a drug you can inject that changes the DNA. cholesterol forming cell's ear liver. so that you it permanently lowers your cholesterol. One shot Is that like a is that a GL people? No It's a it's no, it's not a it's not a peptide. It's a longer chain more complicated drug So How far away are we from injecting a drug changes your collagen producing cells DNA so that you make collagen the way you do as opposed to the way I do or the way you do. suppppose the way you do Not far. So now I want it. By the way, give it to me, baby.. So when you say not far, we talking two years, fifteen years? Certainly five Okay so we've just got to hold out I mean, get the Botox, maybe not too much filler Yes. Sculpture I think all those are great. And look, if you're ready, if you look in the mirror and you pull your cheeks back and it looks substantially better And you're in your forties, fifties. Yeah, I think It's a while before you're going to have this drug that changes your collagen and your elastin so that you kind of get facelift by changing your DNA. It's still okay to go get a facelift, I think it is happening next year. Well, Dr. DeBro, this is so much fun. That was so fun. Thank you very much. I' just, I want to say, I am a little bit surprised you didn't bring up housewise. I was going, you know what, as we can? no, no, no, no' twenty I real or Are you really excited for this season? You know, I don't really watch the show. Okay. I stopp watching it to protect myself sureure So you know, I'll show up to a party in the middle of the season and they're all fighting and ragging on each other and I go, ick and little I know that she and Heather are pissed right now. I go I dont she looks at me. I go, we're cool, I don't, I don't watch. I don't know. So yeah, I think it's very cool. You know, it's been the most amazing platform. I have one more question. What's the best financial advice that you could give me or anyone? Obviously you're a successful surgeon. I know that you guys you know do well for yourselves. But it seems like when I'm watching Housewives You guys are doing very well for yourself. Yeah I would love to like just, you know, any best practices that you have because there seems to be you seem to be doing even better than Some of your peers. Yeah. well, we're very into the planning thing is into AI and tides and longevity, I'm that into finances too. I've been a student of it my whole life. There's a few basic principles that I think are very easy that everyone should do. Number one, you open up it's called scholarshare for each one of your kids. Right now, you can do it even before they're born and you put a little bit of money into it. Every month, a little bit of money, maybe a hundred bucks hundred bucks and it grows and grows and you don't pay taxes on it in eighteen years as it comes out and use it for college. It's a college fund My parents did that. And your parents can pay into it.. So when my kids F of them are all going to college. you know, they're at expensive schools, every single one of them, you know. We just had two graduate, one still at Yale and one's about to go to school college their college funds. They're funded It's the best thing ever. No matter how wealthy you are in the future, which I know you guys will be, it's nice not to have to pay for college So that's the number one thing you must do. Scholarsare, California five, twenty nine Okay. And then number two You know, you got to pay yourself first Always Whatever you make a month and say Well We're going to take this percent, whatever it is, tencent, fifteen percent and we're going to in something that makes every single month. And I recommend I, you know, when when the first iPhone came out, U It was two days after Steve Jobs. o, one more thing. I don't know if you've ever seen that. If you haven't, its you were a little kids w this thing out, but it was a historic moment. I saw it, I was a young surgeon and he pulled out this new type of phone and you know that you could manipulate by touching the screen. and patient of mine's husband came in as they were picking the patient up and showed me the thing I went Whoa, I bought Apple stock every year So by Invest in the brillion people, just keep buying those stocks forever more That's my best. You have an online Terry to Bro fund that people can follow. I don't, but it's very you know, I just buy our geniuses, invvest in them And really well. That's it. Well, Dr. DeBro, we appreciate you taking the time. Where can people follow you all that fun stuff? So you know, I'm sort of nowhere and everywhere at the same time. I have an Instagram called Dr. DBro. Heather and I have a podcast I'm just doing my thing. Are you still doing TiTok lives? Right now, you mean where I sell my stuff?. Right now that's on a pause because I'm developing a new system based on all the new stuff that's come out. I'm changing that up Although that's been very successful, but I'm changing things around. Yeah Finally