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I'm your host, Nick joined by the household nowally is just over being pregnant, as we know every night. I'm just like my last I don't think right now, this is the last time I'll be here. The eviction notice is coming. the eviction notice? Youu guys won't seeit meore.ab Glowing. I did I put no makeup on and I only did skincare. I look like good. My per perioral dermatitis is on it full display. Well link the products because you're literally glowing.'re. I was gonna say I don't even know what periola, whatever that word look. you're glowing. so It sounds like it might be bad, but I was about to say, I'll take some. Yeah. whatever want it. whatever It's working for you And the product that I texted my friend who is a facialist and I was like, I need to put something on this. She recommended me two products. I ordered them immediately and one of them One of them smells like asshole. And unfortunately, like it does have to go around my nose. I don't know how I'm supposed to get around this. It's worth it though, it's worth the beauty. Yeah S sometimes the smell of asshole Beyonce said it best pretty hurts. It P pretty hurts, ye. Do you know the smell of asshol well? Turns out, but you know, I feel like everyone least kind of the one that brought's familiar I will say it's really hard when you're like dating somebody orre getting to know somebody and you're doing your you're like, okay, now I'm gonna do my skincare before bed likeike we're at that point. And I'm like, I might smell a little a a little weird. Yeah. Some of these products aren't like suuper delectabity, you know. Yeah Yeah. I feel like everyone at Costa more knows what to ask. Do feel like the worse it smells, the better 's supposed to be because it's like the sacrifice of skincare.. The worse you look going to bed, the hotter you wake up That's what they say ye Yeah the uglier you are going to bed theotter you are waking up thousand percent. I of the aquaor all over your face. And also do it to answer your question, Nick that a lot of times the best skincare doesn't have fragrance in it So like if you are smelling like a Victoria's secret, that might not be the best product. This is coming from our icon Thanksgiving care. Yeah the connoisseur over here. Justin recently absolutely demolished me about my skincare routine on plus. So I really want to hear. I just said what you put in your body shows on your face. And I said, My body's a temple, my temple seven eleven. My goh Tiquitos. Y. I am a Tiquito. I love those. They are good rightay. We have a jam packed episode lined up for you today. Gabriel from Love Island joins us to give us his thoughts and his experience on Love Island obviously And he's still watching and he's got some takes about what we're seeing in Casa, the men, the relationships. veryer excited for you guys to listen to that episode. We also have I'm very excited about this. The creators of the show million dollar Nanny. I watched it the other day and I was like, how is someone who pretty good sense of how reality TV shows are made and casted and produced and things like that. I watched million dollar Nanny and the show that's about like these Th these nannies who go to Iibita Aibita? A Aiza Aifaifa say. And then they have families, these rich families with their kids and their kids are doing ITMs and I. How did they Hey come up with this idea, but I'm I'm more curious how they put it all together. Andrea Mettz and Michelle Pirali are the co creators of this show. And so we are excited to have them on in a little bit to just learn a little bit about the brainchild of the show. It's It's it's messy. Also turns out Leo used to be an assistant of Hajazi. Zane Okay. Yeah. a creator in the entertainment space She's not familiar to Kardashians, nanny. Apparently, according to him, he was like, I'm she's quitting. and the next time he saw her was the star of the TV show.. She's the one in the center as well, right? She's the one who's like, I have all these contacts. Apparently she was in fact, you know, as they mentioned on episode one assistant or worked for the Kardashians at some point. But she cannot confirm or deny because she did sign NA Can you say you signed an NDA if you sign an NDA? defefinitely can. Yeah. You can say I signed an NDA. Yeah. Yeah. That's always what you say in When you're if you are unemployed for a period of time, when you go into a job interview and they ask about the gap in your resume, you just say I sign an NDA. Wh I. I don't know if that work I don't think an NDA prohibits you from confirming employment. I think it depends on your NDA. I've never used it, I've just heard that that's something and it feels like it would work. Yeah adice And it feels like respectable, right? Like the boss is like, oh Well, you're hired. you're literally, you're living up to your NDA. Okay. great. have. And it's also like maybe I'm just keeping the NDA of my own employment in my heart. You know what I mean? The NDA is exposure. Maybe it would about that. Did you guys see Dorit's Father's Day ost ye. I'm unwell. here notot as good as yours, that little. You know what? she she's Well, I mean, I only got an Instagram story at least Well, you know, I least feed. Well, you know got a feed post. Yeah. I didn't lose my dad two months ago. so it was a little bit of a tough day for me. So I wasn't in the mood for like a whole carousel f But Nick did send me flowers that I saw that too that was very sweet. But Dor could never,, never D out. Dor took took the opportunity in Fallather's Day to celebrate soon to be ex husband in a way that, u Boy George, legendary musician and client of PK responded. And by celebrate I mean, she really went through his throat. She reposted? She reposted her story, a video of another m. So she didn't just like hit that like repost reshare button. It is on It's a reare Like the story. But if I go to her feed No, it's on her story. It's not a repost. Oh, she put it in her story? Yes. Oh Basically, the video is just pointing out that like if you're a husband that's made this mother's life difficult and like did all these different. I think we should just read it. What is it? I guess before we read it, I'm not saying I disagree with the sentiment of what she posted. I just think it's wild to post But yeah. I mean, it's like we all know where the two of you stand. Yeah Yeah, you know, whichich is like not on the same page. I go ahead andain. I mean, she's speaking her piece, but the video that she reposted It's a slide of different videos and it says, I don't care who gets offended. I'm going to say it anyway A man who makes the mother of his child struggle. is a complete failure There's nothing respectable about watching the women raising your child carrying everything alone without real support when she's overwhelmed stressed and exhausted. and it keeps going, but basically it's just like pointing out that if you're a father that's done this to I mean a mother lies. for No lies, we're told. A kind on itsest face On its face. On its face. loveove it Yeah. There are a lot of dead beat deads out there. Exactly. A lot of a lot of losers who did not embrace the the the The amazing miracle that is fatherhood and the responsibility that comes with it that being said on Father's Day.getget forgetting about Father's Day. It's just more like you better that better be like he better be a deadbeat. He better be a deadbeat. He better better be like no no arguments made, like no one could object. his parents have to be like, yeah, our son's kind of a bad dad You know? L it can't be we're going through the middle of a divorce. He said she said situation I don't I don't I don't do I feel like PK is now going to release text messages again between him and his child. where he's ob. I'm not we've never been like PK like standans as supporters, but like certainly not. But I don't I think his friendship with Moe in Kyle. has a little bit of like If he was If he was so bad that it required a post like this on Father's Day, I don't think they would be friends with him. I ag good point. Yeah. I also think that Darite maybe It's just like if you have the possibility of boy George clapping back at you on behalf of your X Maybe don't post. you know what I mean? It's like if the Karma Chameleon can come back after you You better not have rumors of you spending fifty thousand dollars a month on junk. Yeah. Yeah, ye, babes. Well, this video also goes on. It's a very pro child video because it says your child is quietly absorbing that same pressure every single day. So it love the posts. but like maybe that for the post. Ning pressure. I don't know M so boy George basically like reposted that to his story and caption it this post on Father's Day question mark. abbsolutely disgusting. Aolute is true. She's valid. Yeah. you know? I just don't know. I just don't I don't know. I don't know. And I don't know the lore as deep as you guys do. I've watched I think the last two seasons, Just I think that if you have a spending allowance in the way that you do, and that doesn't take away from the emotional aspect of needing a true partnership. I one thousand percent, I think that deadbeat dads are It's terrible. but I'm But he But he wants to be a part of the children's life. That wasn't an issue, right? He was bringing like there was like some dispute. He's probably like a C minus dead. He's also gotten DUIs and pulled her into like bankruptcy stuff. So like I just think like I get hating that There'ss There's faults on both sides and I think she I don't I mean, I hear you on this I don't think that's a justification onn Father's Day. two. make a statement where you're literally just like, Maybe it was supposed to go to close friends and she accidentally clicked the other buttons. And then you have to own it. You have to own. happened to me the other day. accidentally posted a picture of River' face and I cried about it for twenty five minutes. We did actually catch thatah. No, you did. No one wanted to text me and be like, Hey know, that photo was a little crooked and it looked like maybe it was my accident. I caught it yesterday becausecause was like, no, they don'tare photos of like reverse face. and Zach was like No, they did. They just did. And I was like, when did they do that? Yeah, full on accident. I was like, Oh my God, it's been up for twenty seven minutes. and' like it's okay. I'm like no, and now everything we've worked towards is ruined. And honestly, I thought it was a fine moment y. I think it helped us understand why we do what we do Yeah. Be like again, part of it is just like Like we spent the first year of iriver's life kind of being like Sh are we foundent him? I don't know for doing this, right? We made a decision to stop posting her. You know, after posting it, you know, I was obviously very upset and I'm just sayinging first of all, it's not the end of the, you know, world Second of all, like you know, it is twenty twenty six. There's cameras everywhere. Like our goal isn't to make the world wonder about what River looks like. It makes you realize that like We have like Nelly and I we have a relationship with our audience, ourur audience on the show, the people who listen, the people who watch us on social media Uh, what I think the reason I've real I kind of realized after Nalie accidentally did this is like it's not because we're trying to hide our daughter's face We are trying to prevent our audience from feeling like they have a relationship with our daughter. Like I don't want them to, you know, so in now social or anybody Yeah. you know, it it got weird when like people and again, lovely people who like if you're going to share things, people connect with it, right? So like they started, you know Oh recognizing Rriver and you know, we don't want We don't want our audience to have a relationship with our daughter And we want to protect her from that relationship. But I think I feel like it's like you guys are doing a great job because it's like it's a complicated like relationship to have a social like you guys kind of like everyone who's like public has kind of a unspoken or spoken social contract with their audience of like you know, you kind of like, it's a mutually beneficial thing of like you are like you do feel this parasocial thing. and then it's like in turn, it's like you make stuff and like people enjoy it. and then, you know, you get that access, but it's like with kids you know, they don't have the ability to like consent to that social contract necessarily. So I think like accccidentally like is whatever. you know what I mean? It's like trying It was a beautiful phot. It wasn' really intire. She' like going to obviously like zoom in and like just post her cute little outfit and then I guess just like my hand hit it and whatever and then You can cancel now while it's uploading but you didn't realize. I didn't realize twenty seven minutes later. Yeah. I went back ono post picture of palm trees and then I was like, I mean, Rriver is just getting beautiful. and we take some pictures and it's just like, God I want to share this one. Yeah. But I do think like we'll share the twins up until kind of same like one, same time we kind of stopp sharing River when they start to actually look like develop their fac features like they're gonna to look like. But we enjoyed so much about sharing the first year of River's life that I think we'll definitely do that with the twins too. I thought I the City was very fascinating this week. The episode started and it was like K and a man again and was I was almost kind of like I mean Not that like not done with it, but it was just more thinking like we it would be one thing. It would be interesting to see like how their divorce unfolded if we didn't already know about the West and Amanda and that alone. But I gott to say, I was I was kind of locked in becausecause the whole moving out scene, Amanda A, we know that she's made lies. so I don't want to like say like, you know, but I what find fascinating about this this dynamic is because you really get to hear people see themselves in their version of events that they communicate to people, you had Amanda talking to her dad. she just moved into her apartment and first her dad asks about like the separation and he was like, I was on her dad says to man, I was on the impression it was mutual First of all, we're like Who gave you that impression?ight Sounded like Amanda did at first. I feel like Kyle would have loved that conversation, but I feel like she very quickly was like, no, I'm moving out. I don't need your approval. Yeah, But then she said to her dad after questioned her, he was like, well, I spearheaded it But it is mutual. But it is mutual. Yeah. I'm like, nothing about that was mutual. to your point. She was like No Kya was literally just trying to process it at the bar and she wouldn't even want him to you You don't to say Nope, you don't get to say, I'm doing this anyway. That is not the definition of mutual. Right. Yeah. That was eye opening for me. I think it would be it's just it would be one thing of like If Amanda genuinely It's like you watched Sierra through the season of Smere House, likeike get Amanda to finally like separate from Kyle and, you know, be independent. And she you're watching her swing in this direction and it's just like I mean, it's the same thing I was kind of it's Amanda's interesting because she's also just like performing she's performing like the single woman right instead of Well I also think it is interesting because whoever your favorite reality TV star is just know that like is if you if you know, it's so subtle You know what I'm saying? They could easily not show this stuff and there's probably a lot of things they haven't shown about Amanda that they're willing to show now Um And we don't really know who these people are because they do get to pick and choose. I feel like I learned a lot about who Amanda is after seeing the amount of shit that she is horing. She's a hor.. I think she's' Are we is it hoorder status or like this is a New York apartment by the way. Well I will say as well to that point New York apartments are pretty small and I did it was giving hoarding. I will say it's giving hoarding, but I'm also like, I've got a lot of shit but I live in L.A. and you can get more bang for your buck out here as far as how much space you have. We are not theest of people everyvery once in a while. We have some we have a messk and we got a full closet and blah blah blah. nt see said tri To years ago, she said I'm gonna lay some things on this guest bed and now it looks like this. those organizer girls who I'm sure have seen some crazy places were stunned. Send me in there. Marie Caro very condo wood Does it bring you joy No, no. Yeah, they can get rid of everything in that room. I feel like you don't you lose there's no way that she knows anything that's in there. She has not no, when they say have you worn this in the last year if you haven't thrown it out. She has not touched. She has not opened that bedroom door. Now I know why Kyle never came home at night. He had nowhere to sleep Literally he was curled up in the corner because she's got all her laundry there. And I've done that. Listen, as a as a clutter as a clutter girl, I always got a clothes pile in my b. There's clutter That wasn't clut. there' a difference. Yeah, there' a difference between like I have a cycle. I'll let things get messy and then I'm like, al, I need to clear my brain and it's almost like a way to just like Can myself in rec a dining room table buyer cr door that has like the purses, the packages, the boxes, the like Whateverout that's cluttered. But like we've made so much about Kyle's behavior, the DJing, the the emotional reactions to the way he spoke to Amanda Obviously, as we've said, over and over and over, not okay But like I don't it paints color to the image. Well I'm just saying, like, if you're in a relationship with someone who is has that seriousness of a like a lifestyle of how they live, or is this like that unwilling to make adjustments. That is just as damaging to a relationship as is what Kyle' doing. I mean, it's what's clear watching this is they've both done their part. I feel like the maybe fair thing to say is that It's not good. Both of them are not showing up well or healthy to the relationship. I can empathize with her a little bit though in the sense of like hoarding isn't hoarding also commonly a sign of like mental struggle And like that could be her coping mechanism of what she's endured. And I'm not excusing anything, but I'm like when I see people that are like hoarding Like there's always like reb I'm sure there's a reason why she does it. I'm just simply saying in a relationship that is incredibly difficult. If you're not someone who also subscribes to that type of lifestyle, to be in a relationship with that person So can't That is not a habitable like And they had the conversation she had the conversation with her dad of like, and he won't stop like telling me to come get more stuff. you know, like he just keeps saying like, I got to get more. And then it shows his house. it's like, well, yeah, dh. I mean, he's got nowhere to put any of his shit L I mean you can have still suggests that maybe she's not a good b because of this thing that she does. Are they're just not compatible. Yeahah. Yeah., I mean, yeah, you'd have to find another hoer O like two people who scream at each other when they're angry. so it's like a tit for tat But relationships about compromise though. So it's like if she has if she if she if this is the way she lives and Kyle is not that guy, like to have a good relationship, you're going compromise and try to be cleaner. It's like being a good That's not even relationship. That's just being a good room It's like It's like yeah, if I were single, I'd stay up three in the morning, but like I'm married so I'm gonna to com home at eleven thirty. Yeah. And it's like like I like I just said, kind of messy. My room, a little bit messy all the time. Con area of my house with my roommate. Yeah. I try to keep clean, right? Like Rommates is all about the common area. Yeah. And so it's like, Amanda, you live with this man. That's your house. Like keep it, you know what I mean? It's just like be like show up for the other person. They just haven't shown up for each other in forever. I felt the empathy and was willing to, not, I don't want to say excuse, but I was willing to be like, okay, you know, this like like Justin pointed out. Maybe there's something deeper to it. But then when she was giving pushback on him wanting more stuff out, that's when I like kind not lost my empathy, but I was like, okay, but you have to be able to recognize that that is really hard for someone to live in. And like you're moving out into a brand new squeaky, clean place and you're not willing to take your shit with you, then you're you it's so obvious. It's like, okay, obviously there's an issue and you're leaving behind this like literal pile of shit for somebody else to deal with. like that sucks. You got a new apartment and then made your ex boyfriend's apartment your storage. Right. And that made him hire or not hire some organizers to come over and help him organize your stuff. Where have they been for the past seven years though, because they they have the fin she has the financial means, I would think to be able to hire somebody. It doesn't seem like this has been something that she's been wanting to do. I know, but I'm like, I just don't know why they didn't address that. feel I think the organizers are all about throwing stuff out. Okay staff, taking it to go downsizing. downsizing. here's my question, mayaybe this is an unfair question. But Amand's not going out She's staying home all the time She's hanging out in like that hoarders' You know what I mean? Well the living room, the living room The living room was like fine. Okay. It was that guest bedroom And like their closet, there was the bathroom. The bathtub was like full of boxes like I guess that could be moving. No, that was it was like boxes of shoes that she just like hadn't opened yet or like they might clean PR is what I need to tell Yeah you need to tell your team to stop allowing PR boxes to be sent to your home. I look love when I move and then people lose my address. I'm like, I can't take anymore. Like you really do get sent a lot of stuff. That's why a part of me is like there is like a lot that you receive alsoso since they started filming, I wonder if they moved all of the stuff that was like around their house because the way Kyle spoke about it, it was as if it was in the whole house. I wonder put it all if they put it in that room because it was spread out everywhere you know becausecause if it was just contained to the room, okay, that's Aanda's ro But it sounds like they were living in it for a while. Yeah. I did think Kenny's conversation with his dad on the phone was like one of the most beautiful conversations I've seen. It wass very sweet. I didnt M maybe I wasn't paying attention, but like what's the backstory and why they lost contact? I actually don't remember either. I just know that he's been searching for his dad for a while. and then what we discovered last episode was that His father was also searching for him. Oh. But Kenny hired a PI to like basically track him down and they found like a relative and then a Facebook photo or something But no, just everything that the dad said on the phone of like I hate the thought of you thinking this way and like I think this is just God bringing you back. L It was definitely a redeeming episode for Kenny. Also, who's his friend, the bar owner? Oh, Gabin. Yeah, he seems like kind of a jerk I agree. Yeah. I mean, I think I couldn't tell if it was him like either he's a jerk or he was performing for reality TV, but he was oddly confrontational. He's constantly like that, I feel like I feel like he's just specifically regarding relationships. and that's why Kenny pointed out like you're toxic and you're trying to find this in other people's relationships. or like you like this and you're like find to get a people's relationship. I mean, that's good for a reality TV star Yeah, I think he's being a good reality TV st. He looking for a friend. Yeah I was gonna say, do you feel like he's that friend that just wants everyone to remain single forever? and like just wants That's what it' Missery loves company where you're like, no, dude, you're not happy, you're not this. It's hard to tell because you only see him doing it to Kenny Yeah opportunity is like his best friend. He's also like a bar own and bar owners love like historically. They usually the bar owners like to hang out at their bar and they want their friends to hang out their bar with them and like drink a beer and have long talks. And when your boy gets a girlfriend, like they become far less available Right. I have the vibes. So it's but like how old is Gavin? Like It's kind it's kind of okay when're in your twenties. thirties, you know, if everyone's single around you. fories, it's like you might need to look in the mirror. Yeah Yeah and make some like different choices. Well the bar thing T your to your forties, cheers, entire sitcom, entire community based off of bar owner. So maybe they were single Not all of them. No No, Sam and Diane had that thing and then N had Ria Plman who had the husand He didn't know I don't know if Norm had a happy marriage, I'm just saying, orr if he even I mean, Norm was always at the bar My favorite thing about the Cheers show is what you think about Do you ever see like how old they were Yeah when they were like filming and they're like, they're like In the city age. Like Norm was like a thirty three year old man Yeah. it looks like seventy five. Golden Girls are huge Golden Girls that blows my mind and And I'm like, is that on Beauty standard. Is that on like more awareness of like how to stay young forever? orr is that just a little bit of both? I think it was just a harder life back then. I think people were drinking and smoking a lot more regularly without thinking about moisturizer, you know, there was only Ponds cold cream. Yeah I will say the New York shows are popping off 'cause next Jen, the premiere We're back. This show's good. We're back. This is a show about hustlers in New York City. And guys the tech may have changed, but the streets have not. I love this show. Gia's metad at Ava. Gia's metad at Ava because Ava was rude to Gia Narana because Ava thinks she's Ava's like a Nppo baby Nppo baby and their bravo Nppo baby. They think that Ava thinks she's better than them, which she does And Eva is mad that Gia called her a liar on this podcast because her dad, Damon Dash, has all of his legal troubles, which means she doesn't have as much money as she used to, which means she's getting evicted from her ten K apartment because her dad can't pay his half of the rent And so she's struggling. and when In her brain, Gia calls her a liar on vile files. that affects her brand deals. So She's not about our brand deals. She technically also didn't call her a liar, right? No, she said she's a liar. Or she lied. She lied.ectrand What did she say about her? She just said she was lying about Tsa unfollowing her Instagram. And how does that affected her brand deals? Be she's said being labeled a liar at this stage of her career is affecting her brand deals because brands won't want to hire a liar Every reality TV star on Bravo has been accused of being a liar. They've also been proven to be liars by the infinite amount of flashbacks they show on that. Craig Konover, although is famously a lawyer and a storyteller. So there is a way to frame it I understand her sentiment though, where she's like, huh? I just think nextxt gen is so good because they're all just like I also think the Charlie and Connor, that's his name right? Con. Hudson. Charlie and Hudson. Yeah. The whole thing of like, it's about to be summer house up in this be. Hudson being like with his boyfriends being like just checking like, let's set the roule, like N nobody's going after Ariana, right? Like making you guys, if you guys aren't aware Hudson and Arianna did break up. Yeah. And Ariana did sponsor her her move out of their apartment through Radway. and she's kind of trying to Aanomatx herself It's awesome. Anyways, the whole point of it is Charlie basically goes, Yeahah, I, I'm not like, I'm not gonna go after Ariana. Like that's your ex. And then in the like trailer, he's literally going after Ariana. It's a great show. You guys gota gota lock in. G to lock in. G is also eating Georgia is eating. Georgeira, all of them on. Do you feel represented by the Gen Z community? I mean, I do, honestly, because you're watching the show and the way they it's less about like, I don't necessarily relate to the things they're doing because I've never, you know, been in a crypto torture house before But The way they interact with the cor the camera and like the awareness of being filmed feels very true to this generation of like they're not really worried about their actual relationships with each other. They know they're on TV for their job and they're trying to like make money. It's not part. It's because you have the Nppo babies that came from money and no longer have money, the Nppo babies that still have money, then you have the normal people that are trying to like get money by being around the Noies. So they're not even pretending that it's not a TV show. No. L they're like this is part of their jobs. alongside That's what's really interesting about it Yeah, like they're breaking the fourth. Hudson literally was like, am I he went he said to Arian, he's like, you're still my woman. And then they cut to him later in his apartment alone and he goes Am I interesting to film alone? Yeah. It's like it's such a good show And then them about Shay being like, gosh, I was friends with Dylan from last season. Dylan's not here. so now he's just the puppy dog that we kept on the cast. Yeah Yeah. Well up next we have Andrea Madson, Michelle Paralally, the co creators of million dollar Nanny, Andrea. I'm not sure if Michelle is, but I know Andrea is the showrunner for secret Liv of M att least the Utah ladies, mayaybe we might get some tea as well. 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We dive deep on all your favorite shows, including in the cities, summer House, Love Island. obbviously there's so many nooks and crannies regular conversations that we can always get into on reality Recap, but we certainly dive into it on Vile files plus We also get your updates on your favorite ass nate callers so if and everything is now ad free. So Be sure to sign up. you'll be glad that you did Andrea, Michelle, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having us. We're excited. Very excited to have you. Well, I message you, Andrea. I'm so fascinated with the million dollar nanny. I mean saw the previous for it, wanted to check it out and we were just like, holy shit, how did this show get made? It was very fascinating. I mean, you guys L I I'm curious how you guys came up with this idea, but like it it really is brilliant because I think it touches on so many u interestnting and sensitive like topics like childcare in general, obbviously, just a very sensitive topic, so many opinions about parenting and things like that childca. you know, goes a step further I'm just curious how you were able to like make the show come to life because to do that, you have to find the nannies, you have to find the families You have to make sure that they're okay with being filmed. All very fascinating stuff. So I'm really curious how how it all came together. We originally, this was a while ago, there was an article in the New York Times U Disco nannies I don't know. And we were like, what's a disco nanny And so we read the article and it was about these nannies who come in and work for elite families in these party destinations And that's how Michelle and I were fascinated by this article. Yeah, because so often you think of parenting and there's this like cultural judgment, right? Once you become a parent, you kind of lose your your social life. And it's almost you surrender to this idea of it's all about your kids and as it should be But what would happen when you cohabitate in like life before kids, life after kids and the blend of that? So this idea of disco nannies allows you to kind of nod back to the heyday of having a good time and letting it rip while also being mindful and having somebody that is around watching your while you're doing that. So we're like, h, what's this gray area? What is this space? What does it look like? So are the families that we're watching on this show part of this like disco Is it like a lifestyle? Is it a community of people Or is it just like based off that kind of premise? Yeah, how did you get? It's mainly based off that premise. I mean, that gave us the initial idea, Nick. So then we were just like, you know, so interesting because Michelle and I are so curious anyway about, you know, these worlds these niche worlds and and like pulling back the curtain on things that we normally don't see, right? So when we started doing deep dives and finding out that Ea and even in Greece and other places around the world, there's these really, really rich top one percent families that vacation there. They always don't bring their nannies with them and if they do, they might need another one And we were like, oh my God, this is amazing. So that's how it all started. And there are all of these families. Abisa was just getting more and more popular and we started researching about Aisa East, I should say And really seeing that there are these top one percent families that were getting villids there, were spending their summers there, and we just thought it was the recipe for success for a show. Was it difficult to find families who wanted to participate in this show? or did you have like a line out the door of people who were hoping to be on T Yeah. Michelle, It was such a blend of you know, Leah, who's our main nanny and kind of the ring leader of this. She wanted to start her own agency, right? So she has an inherent roolodex of people through familyil she's worked for, through references of those families Transparently, we met families while filming there that were interested because word gets around in Ibiza. what you know, what stays what lands in Abiza doesn't necessarily stay within the confines of the gates of Ebiza. so people were talking. We also did a casting, obviously. know we had to. So For Michelle and I, this was it was so important that this was authentic. You know, and these were like really one percent families. So we did deep dives on that. We worked with Chelsea Stevens, an amazing casting director and found some families that really go to these destinations are really top one percent, really use nannies. And then like Michelle said, I think through Leah's Rolodex through our casting and then also the island itself Some of our families were found organically while we were filming and the cast found some as well because there's just so many there and when they would be at a beach club or something, you know, there's that scene when Jack runs up and he's like, Do you need a nanny? And the woman was like, yes. So yeah Yeah, I mean, I think to lean in on the casting of it all as well, we're huge on diversity with our shows. So as you will see, the idea of one percent is like all over the spectrum on the show. You have three dads. You have this Cuban American family that like You know, the parents landed and they worked so hard and they blew up and they made it. And that's like the American dream there. You've got a family that, I mean, like there's so many bits and pieces. There's a single mom that's British that was once a pop star and she lives in a Barbie house in London and is like conic to her young daughters. So it's like we're telling all these narratives as well of what a family looks like. and caretaking. so it was really cool to kind of into the casting in that realm and really go wide with this idea of what one percent looks like nowadays. But to answer your other question, Yes. I mean, it was It wasn't, you know, the easiest process in the world, you know, because you're dealing with people who have NDAs and you're dealing with people who might not want their whole lives on camera. So it was really finding that balance who is legitimately a one person family who needs a nanny who travels to these places and is good for TV and wants to participate, you know. I am curious, you know, you know, we' we're new parents. we've u And we've learned pretty quickly just how again, how sensitive this space is that is parenting, right? E you know There's not a single parent out there who doesn't have a strong opinion about parenting And then therefore how others parent I'm curious like, you know, two part question. what we' some of the like requirements of the families that you that you guys found to be shocking or outrageous. And second ever difficult As a producer, you're obviously you want the drama, you want the interesting people, you want all this diversity of Perspectives, wasas it also hard for you ladies at times not to judge the families or the parents about how how they went about some of their parenting choices with their kids in the nannies I would say that The nannies and the families, I think you know, judging I loved our families. I really did. I thought that, you know they were amazing. But regarding some of their requests, yeah, They were a little over the top, you know? It's like, you know, can you have to get in the pool with with your makeup on dressed as a princess. You know, you you have to no self defense. you know, it's like beyond. Did it surprise us? No, not necessarily because of who these families are and just, you know, they were top one percent. so we were willing to go. for it, but I would say I don't necessarily think I judged them at all. you know, I think we were always so We were always so mindful of making sure as well that we had nannies who were really skilled. That was something that was so important to us. Like we authentically wanted to find nannies that did this and they loved kids. So all of our nannies came in being like, we love kids and they had heard everything under the sun. You know, Leo was a celebrity nanny U Sydney works for some top families in Scottsdale who are like big sports people and stuff like that. So I think that they had heard the gamut of everything and been asked to do everything. So nothing surprised them. So if it didn't surprise the nannies, it didn't really It didn't really ruffle our feathers because if they were like down, then we were like, okay This is normal, par for the course id the their involvement in the show affect any of their relationships with the families who they had worked for prior or who maybe didn't want to be on the show now that they were kind of you know, out there as public figures and celebrities, but also being nannies I mean, we'd have to ask the nannies for sure, but as far as I know, I don't think so. like, you know, I think that they know who they are. I mean, I would I would be curious to see if any of them got hit up from from any of their old families. but you know, all of the nannies now, which is really interesting to me, after working with our families like Olivia is currently nanning for three dads in L.A. Sydney is on her way soon to go to the Gillia Bertes vow renewal ceremony and you know, she's been working with them I think Taylor and Mitchell visited Nicola in London. Yeah. I mean, they've all had these like beond the beyond the series relationships that they've connected to. But the families to answer the question, the nannies were very discreet about sharing who they worked with with the families. like the whole NDA thing. like they didn't flaunt it. So I think They knew that they kind of had to keep it quiet if they wanted to go back to certain people. So they were good about that. But yeah, we'd have to check in for sure. I have a question. I think with Secret Lves of Mormon Wives, obviously it's so interesting because you're following family dynamics, but we don't really hear from the kids ever But in this, you guys actually The kids are a focus. I'm curious, like what challenge is that brought to filming? and I'm sure it's also very sensitive. Like how much input do the parents get on what is actually shown of their children or being asked, yeah Great question. That's a really good question. We were very, very careful about not producing the kids. I mean, when we're talking about DocU series, that's when really the dooc came in in allowing these children to be themselves and allowing the nannies to interact with the children in the way that they would We really, really wanted to lean in on the, you know, authenticity and honesty of that And as you saw, like some of these children were just inccredible characters. like my three dads, the two the twins were like, I was just like, oh my God, I can't even like I can't even write this because the split of just the dual personalities and how one was so elevated and the other one was just like such a kid. I mean, it was so surprising becausecause there was a lot of, I think the children were really kind of the element of discovery in our piece. Like it was just like magic to just stay curious and stay open and just really allow time for us to like Film likeike just just follow the journey with them. So it was it was nice to see that. And we also just made sure to have like we had child welfare on set. you know, we just had people who were dedicated to making sure kids were safe at all times. We really were mindful of the hours we were shooting with the kids. It was so important to us to make sure that the kids, you know, were being looked after properly, not just by the nannies and their families, but like Production wise as well, we were taking all necessary steps to make sure that that that was happening And honestly in retrospect, the parents were not far away if we think about it, Andrea. L they were always like, it wasn't like they you know, went to the they pacced out. They they were within reach for sure. So it was There was this kind of safety net in a way that they were kind of in the periphery as well What was kind of like the decision process of like having the entire families being the focus of the show because obviously with the nannies you're going to film the kids, but with Having it focused on like the whole dynamic. Was that something you guys thought about before you started shooting? orr was that kind of something you found like you were as you were going about it thinkink a little bit of both. I mean, the families that we that we cast that we found, U were so dynamic that it was hard to not film them. Like you know, when we filmed the scene of Tati and Camilla interviewing the nannies and they were able to pick whoever they wanted and they did that all themselves, we were just like, oh my God, like who does this? You know, Wh asks to sing Baby Sark? you know, name the designers that make strollers. likeike Oh my God, I was like, what So it just kind of happened naturally. but also I think the thing that surprised me is You know, I didn't know how so many of these families like are present like Michelle said when the nanny is there. So they're just always there whichich is so interesting to me. You know, it's like they're never far. like they have nannies to be in the room while they're cooking. You know what I mean? M really So they were just they were just a part of it and honestly, they were such big characters and added so much that we leaned in. Well, it's a fascinating premise. I'm excited to see more of it and I hope it's around for a while because it's I just think it touches on so many interesting topics when it comes to you know, family dynamics and interpersonal relationships. So congratulations to you both. It's it's really fascinating One more question. Andrew, I know you work with the Secret Livves of Mormon Wives, ladies. Michelle, are you do you also work with them I do not work with them. Andrea and I yeah. We divide and conquer. U. Just curious And Andrea, obviously, we love those women. We're huge fans of the franchise. What's the future look like for the secret Lves of Mormon Wives, specifically the ladies in Utah And what can we expect of season five whenever we get to see it Well Season five is, you know, as everyone probably knows is just the reality of what was happening during that time. I don't know when that's going to air, but I think it's going to be a wild ride And u you know, and we're just excited to get back up and running. And I can't wait to continue continue filming with the ladies and I love them and I love doing the show. We're excited for the future. of mom talk. Is there well, we love hearing that. Is there a future for dad talkks How do you feel about that? Ng, I have no comment about Dad talk. Okay. All right. We'll take that hopefully as a no. Anyways, Andrea Michelle, we really really appreciate you taking the time. Congratulations on Million dollar Nanny We hope that has as much a success as Secret Lives of Morn Wives. and we just appreciate your insight. so thanks so much. Thank you guys so much. From your mouths to the universe's ears. I hope so. And hey, if you guys need a million dollar nanny, there's a season two. You're more than Yeah. I don't know how interesting of television we would be. Yeah. I need to up my standards a little bit, I think. Yeah. I need to come up with some ridiculous questions. Where would Where would you guys vacation to out of curiosity? Like if there was a destination I've never been to Ibita. I think I have to learn how to say it first before they let me in. I also have never been to Greece, which is definitely on my bucket list. Funny that you say that. Okay.. I'd like to go to Greece. Dad to know I don't know if I'm quite in that one percent though, you know?. I think we're a little far. you guys are quiet one percent. You're getting there. They're crushing life you know Thanks so much, ladies. We appreciate you Thank you guys. Thanks guys. Thank you very much Fascating stuff ating. It's so interesting to hear the perspective of light people making the show because I think so much like we talk about it from cast perspectives and hearing it from like the producer perspective more is always like so interesting to me. Well, it's time to get into some loveve Island and we're going to start with Gabriel who left the villa unceremoniously not too long ago. and he is with us to speak on his experience as well. his thoughts and feelings on the rest of the cast members so much to unpack So let's get to Gabriel If you're a pet parent, you know the list of things your pet needs adds up. And that's why so many pet owners rely on Chewy. and we are two of them. 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I was expecting And I didn't know anything about the proposion of the show, you know, even like the producer, they knew that And I was telling them like I've never watched the show before. I never watched like an episode It was like, oh shit, I only knew that I was going there to find my best connection and Yeah, have good time. That's that was it And now I feel like Oh shit everyone's loving me or hating me. I was reading all their pments. I was like, oh shit It's like way bigger than I was expecting But at the same at the same time like it's fucking cool, you know, I be enjoying Um The whole love that people are giving to me You know, I cannot complain. I go I went to the valer I don't have any regrets about it, That's why I feel like happy with myself, which most important. I think fans really love that authenticity they got to see from you because you really showed up, you know, your truest self, which was cool to see. But I got to say, M met, I think your story is really incredible. I think obviously with the show being so big as it is now, you being someone from Brazil who moved to the United States a few years back, not speaking English and then you found yourself on such a big show like Love Island I think is also just an incredible story. I read here that your computer science a major or have a computer science background. That's pretty cool, Matt. Yeah, I'm studyied for computer science. I'm aschineer You know, that's one thing there they I was telling like the girls knew that Lia and then they knew that But they nobody saw that. So that's okay. at least they knew more about me and I completely understand that's probably something that nobody's interested At least so like who's watching A Yeah When I was my last speech, I say hard it was because Wh do we understand which are immigrant going through in their life when they arrive here You know, like everything is hard. want to start a new life from the zero. and it was not just me was me and my parents, you know, and they carved me the whole life And and then I was like, oh shit, now I'm here. I'm within. Noody to speaking English here. I think I'll be the guy who gonna leadave these, you know Oh I grew a lot in a shp in a short time in a couple years. So like being the guy who arrive in the states pointinted out like same resume and going out like just giving to like store by store to arri at The biggest rller show in the world or in the States, I don't know is for me's like It's huge, you know, so just me I know what I've been through to there and I'm very I'm very happy with the Is there anything the version of yourself would tell that version of you Oh my gosh I just say like I never thought about it, I guess where say like I'm very proud of you because You know hard how hard it two would have be and that you made it And That's awesome man. What what does your family think of this whole experience Oh my go, since the beginning they were super happy. They're super happy that just the fact that I was going to Fiji And I I was happy because I was like, oh shit, I never thought about going to a fiji. And I was there just like like, o, if I go in or not' I'm already happy, you know? And I ended up going the first episode and o shit and it's time to make the happen and show the world how I am. That's awesome, man That's awesome. Do you feel like you're obviously a good looking guy. You ended up on Love Island. I think also you've done some modeling, but with you being like in computer science, do you feel like people often read you the wrong way, almost like we maybe some people on Love Island. You can be like a suave sexual guy who like likes to be around women and also be a computer science major. Do that something that you've experienced in your life even outside of the TV show, Or is that something that's new to you? peopleeople kind of judging you too quickly or you know, assuming that you're only one thing when maybe you're a lot more guys like that's the stereotype. I'm Latino, I'm Brazilian. like my light skin, my tattoos, so people gonna judge you bas based off what they see. And for me I don't care, you know, like my family, my friends you know know about me, like my values which is But the most important thing for me, that's why I say I don't have any regrets. The guys, when I left they were pissed because they knew about my I real feelings, you know, but they knew that I was feeling at least for J at that point And they were not understanding. they were like, oh shhib like, you were leaving the fucking loveve Island experience the whole time. So why are you leaving? I like And people are saying like you're lessful. Like are you less? What do you mean? Like everyveryone's kissing each other here. E every you are kissing out of the challenge. but now like I was watching the episode, everyone's Kasing each out of the challenge and What mean? just because our key is different? have the Brazilian keys way. So you are you're keeping up you're keeping up with the show Yeah I mean I mean I've been watched too. So what do you think of likev you know, last night's episode is obviously another great episode. but You know, it seems like a lot of the men, your boys are very excited about the women of Casa. I mean, I think it was Corbyin who literally was like the Casa women are so much better. Now I know you didn't get to meet the Casa women But why do you feel like Corbet and some of the other men seem to be having the time that they're having over at Casa compared to the time they had in the villa. M I don't know, because probably they found a better connection in Kazaore than they were having before Which is completely fine. invalid You know, as just say when I was leaving, my first connection would not be the best one and better and then the next one, you know, but like if you explore and you open yourself to have like New connections, new conversations You're gonna be like, oh shit,ice person at least we can for me She she was like betterad and then not betterad but Our conversations were better than I was expecting. you had a lot of thingsings like very seil much who understanding me and like, oh she like she's she's like fucking with me, you know And that's why I was investing, even the fact that I knew like she I wasn't her type. I was like, oh should no I like her, so at least my part I'll be doing. and yeah B fr the guys If they found like a better connection Alice Korbin with Paramida, I think that's her name That's valid, you know? It's valid, but doesn't doesn't mean like his connection with K was like worse or just like something different, you know Obviously Anya and Kasey has been the subject for a lot of fans kind of debating how, you know, each of them are moving. You know, you got a lot of Anaya fans, you know, thinking, hey, like she's been very clear about what she wants and Kasey might be a little confusing. KaseC fans feel like, you know, he can do nothing right. How did you see it, their relationship in the villa and whose perspective do you understand a little bit more. I think the fact that they They didn't get tested in any moment That's one thing that's probably are being thinking o shit like probably I also like this guy also like this girl You know? And that's very interesting because Casey after the loveve letter, he was telling me like, oh shibo like Now I feel like now I' getting closer and closer But doesn't mean they were like closed off and lucked in You know But as I say like they started like testing us the whole time, you know, we got to kiss this person. we got to go ch with this person So You never can happen and we are like also normal people. We have like we can we just met each other like in the village, you know, always would be for a week and a half I'm gonna say like she was the one or like even with Jen, you know? And nobody nobody showed like this power but like then when be a left The next day pull traini and cater for a child and I say Don't get me wrong Like from now, I'm gonna do my best regnd. I want to make that happen because Don't come up to me and say, Oh, you're doing the same thing that you used to do with BeA because it's not fair with me. You know, it's not fair. I don't see any reason to do it. They were like, o okay, okay, these and that. because People can judge me because I'm very I like to show my affection and that's one thing very pleas. everyone knows. You told Kata and Trinity that you wanted to focus on Jen. Yeah, I totally kid it. Yeah. The next day, like when you left I I went to Tak Sudan, yes. So I did that was that Even more upsetting when they voted you off accusing you of being lustful and not like, you know, especially after you communicated to them that that's in fact what you wanted to do Yeah, one hundred percent. one hundred percent. just because I'm affectionate doesn't mean that like I'm listful, you know? Yeah. I don't see any point about it I feel like we really saw your true colors as you were leaving when you were speaking Portuguese to Bea. And then obviously in after Sunday showed you going to her Instagram and how you spoke about her was so sincere and like genuine Have you reached out to her post villa? Yeah, we talked Yeah, we talked like days ago U Any updates? I'm not she was kind of Oh she like we kind of moved quickly. but and then like we had like a conversation but we good now, you know? I was explaining my point and she understood. I'm not gonna lie she understood But we are in a good position. We now are friends, you know She seems very level headed, like she should get it. What do you make of Trinity and Bryce's connection? They're very popular with a lot of fans, but they once again, there's a lot of fans are debating, you know, are they really into each other? Who likes whom more What do you think of that connection? Do you think it's one that might last A least I can talk about Bryice because we had a lot of conversation I can say like he really He isn't like any her You know, they like he really likes her And that's why I was defending him in the afterson. I was like, no, Bise he likes her Does't me like you have a tired When you meet a person that you different that you You're gonna Forget everything. You know And okay, the probably she's not the the his usual type, but is still lies her And you don't, you don't You don't force it, you just feel it, you know, because if all like Jam would be with him. No with me That's one thing like He was he was he's been He's been liking her and I think people need to respect this And I don't know about Tiny within U I know at least from hepar He really likes her and he feels like safe because they make a lot of jokes, they like to be to each other. So I really feel like they They big they are big in the show Who are you most surprised by their actions at CSa M The gigl. Fries fuck S secondcond question.'s hard. second question. I would say Okay. How to say Oh shit, I don't have answers remember this Where were you shed? Were you shocked by the guys being so downown to be into the heart rate challenge Were you shocked? Gu, That's a challenge. That's our moment to show y'all. Did you have FOMa? Yeah, did you have phOMA? What is phomO? Fear of missing out Like where you jealous you weren't there I mean I vill. vill. You would have killed Casa leaving you left with Seoul. It seemed like you guys got to have some nice moments at the airport and did some lives, but obviously you're friends with sincere seemed like Sl had some strong feelings about how Sincere moved with her. How did you see that relationship unfold? And did you empathize more with Sl or the position that Sincere was in trying to juggle two relationships Honestly means here we had a li A lot of conversation. He was my best friend the villa You know, that's why he was really excited when I was leaving. He was like, bro, like you help me a lot when the time like when I was like most confused here You were always there, like give me advice because I'm very open mind and I'm very like upfront with my with my thoughts, you know And when I felt he was putting email in his feel is in front of him I' like, bro, what the fucks that I just met her. She's not your girlfriend and You gotta change your mind about it, you know? Because she beingrespecting you in front of everyone. We' are in a fucking real. It doesn't look like but everyone is watching us And The fact that she was we were watching them H Kurbin and she was very excited. Even the fact that she knew that we were seeing them. she was like in the top of hand And went to talk to him And since you was there like watching And then we like back and forth king curbing and to hand. What that? and then he He gott to put like her field in front of his I was like, no like just Go for sure, you know she's your type and just go for it. you know, just like forget mailing it for now and go for it. like you're not going to have any regrets because you're going to be following your feelings win what you want, you know, just give a chance But if in the love lder He say Melanie He feeled more sl it understandable, you know, because he had a more time with Melanie and That's one thing that cannot control. evenven if I talk a lot about him for him like, Ohh bro do this and that. end of the day is going to be his feelings for us and that's why he did. Okay. I guess maybe the last couple we have to get your opinion on is Kata and Zach. Who do you feel like has more power and control in that relationship? Is one person maybe kind of exxploring their options more than the other. Wh's more like a locked in? I just say say s very locked in looks like his kn because people been say this but Since the beginning, he was very locked in, evenven if he's saying he's open. he's kind of like Op but not veryery open And yeah, I got to say Zach ike's very open. I think Kid is I'd to be open to explore more do you think has the best chance of winning right now? And what couple do you think why how do you think it's Tinity and Bricees? I didn't say that. I was asking a question. How to say Tining and Briides? sure Because I say they have a base, they have a life They started as a friend and they A a ging gnd grow in when they noticed they were They' a couple like have a good time and that's very important, you know. and I think Keny and Corbn unfortunately li Term is my boy. He's from my He's also like with Paramida now. And I think he' going to be like changing his mind because I think like he Hers like she's more he's type and I think Corbyn forgot that Kenzie was in the villa. L it seems like he. I forgot she can do the split. Probably. We don't knows about her split. Hh? You like her splits? I mean, she splitt my face. What's not to like what what couple? Oh shit, let me do my thing now. oututside of you and Jen was making out the most at night in bed. or were you too busy doing your thing to notice Yeah, I told them after some I was like, o, I was not worried about anybody else. I was focusing myself my moment. That's a good sign. Were you wearing the don't they hand out like earplugs? no at all I was not using. I mean, I was not here to anyone I think see, I was the most active in their place. They were here and me. Yeah. You were busy a good time. He was passing out the air the airight Because Trinia was sleeping next to me one day he say, Bry told me aboutow like Well Trini couldn't stop laughing. she went still better because she was here yo and No That was funny But I mean Bea the thing is sometimes I like to explain these because Sing our affection kiss in front of everyone. or even having sex, not like a big thing for like for like for Brazilians, you know, like we see like Oh these as a normal thing. you don't have these taboo that people create here in the states. I also respect that people think like we do these different. but that people need to understand us too because I come from a different background and different culture and that's totally understandable too. What's been the funniest thing you've read about yourself online or seen about yourself that I'm lessful There we go. Okay. Case close Case close confonfirming here. he's not. Gabriele, we appreciate you taking the time. We know you have to go, man. This has been a lot of fun. It's been great getting to know you, you know, and thanks for all the insight. but it was a real pleasure watching you on the show and we were sad to see you go man. But good luck with everything that's about to like come into your life and we're excited to see what this kind of journey brings you and I really appreciate your time, man. Thank you guys so much. Thank you for the opportunity to be talking to y'all and yeah, see you guys soon. Shere Thanks everyrael. Thank you bye Be So precious. What a sweet man Yeah, charming. He really is. My favorite part is when he kind of laughed at us and goes, guys, it's a challenge. Yeah. You know, we're so like hyperbolic and ridulous. I mean, I do think I'm sorry, challenge or not. It was it was They did too much. It was the lip licking. But you're're on love Island. I get where he's coming from like But S Sars facial, I felt like I got to see his O face And by O face, I mean like face he makes when he climaxes. Yeah I know you don't know what is Yeah. Okay I just wanted But than you for definition. That is. Okay. And I was like challenge or not. I was like I didn't need to see that I mean, I'm not complaining because it's good TV and great commentary, but I don't know if if And then the work at girl Corbyin was like I also feel like we are so past that though. Like last night's episode I feel like it was soft porn. Yeah You know, feeling like that It honors it. You know, yeah, sinces episode one. You're right Favorite sexosition makeakeout. Yeahor. you're right was Kenzie's new hottie? Oh God' return. obsessed with him. Yeah. What is his name? Dylan or something? Am I crazy or maybe is it just it feels like The men in the the new men, the bombshells are come across as more manly Yes, ye. less sexualized and more Emotionally mature. Yes. I love Spider Man and I'm not like, but like yeah. I just don't Jack has been whiny. I don't Jack and Kata I just Kita does not seem like the type of lady who who is gonna to get really excited to like watch some Marvel Spider Man with Zach. She doesn't give that type of energy. She gives like she could date literally anyone. She's gorgeous. Highly su you know, like a highly successful serious I just I could be wrong Could be wrong. I wish is A and Ka did not go up Hidea away, Hide away. All The Casa boys men are they older than the Villa boys? That's what it gives like. That's what it feels like. I'm actually so curious. Do you guys think that it was a intentional from production descend in, like taller, more manly. They're all tall. Boy No, but into the villa No they all taller. These women are are like How tall are you? You're very tall. They're all commenting on how tall. No one's getting called Lord for. the cossic guys are Yeah. like I think Sincere was pretty short. I think Zach's pretty short I think Casey's probably pretty sure Well we met Charlie I mean short. likeike again, reality TV, they cast giants in the I'm six two and in the in the world of like the universe, most people think I'm pretty tall I walk on a real TV set. I'm average height. Yeah. I mean less by the height to be honest, more they it seems as if the men they're bringing into Casa are specifically kind of like more butch. I mean we had lack of a better term. We had Gaall being like, I hope the the OG men come back and see all these buff guys cooking breakfast. Like I think it is kind of They at least known within the island that like the OG guys are maybe a little bit smaller. They're watching here. They're watching them. Confirmed all the Costa boys are in their the later twenties. And then it almost could be like or mostly. maybe I'm I don't know. I feel like Love Island producers are thinking about that But it's like you kind of have the commentary on modern dating this season of like you have these kind of what you were talking about with West, these like little scrawnny boys versus like The men that come into cost. I Scrwny.' emotionallycrany. The like weak men, your whole thing with that. of like not saying every single man in. Yeah, where it's like this kind of gentle centering feelings, That's kind of who's our main guys and then kind these guys I like the centerine feelings, but I don't you to balance? But I to see the Yeah ye, yeah. I want balance. I value centering feelings and emotions. I'm like, I'm cool with that. I'm not I'm not down. I don't think the I don't know that I think the Villa guys are though. I feel like they are Childish. Yeah. Yeah, it's giving a little adolescent behavior. Yeah Rather than in tune with your emotions, allowing your emotions to take president, you know. I mean, sincere, like I want to be friends with Sincere. He seems like a very fun charming guy. He he's so charming and then he does his shit where you're just like The way he goes, my favorite line of the episode was It would be selfish of me. Not to explore you. Yeah because you wouldn't get an opportunity to connect with me. You wouldn't have the love Island experience if I did not make out with you. Did't like do that. I love it. I Touch your titties. You might have no shot at saying. So I'm gonna do you a favor. You're welcome. explore. Yeah, you are welcome by the way, for me touching your boobs right Yeah. like you should be grateful. You should be so grateful for this opportunity. like with the way the like boys are talking about these women at Casa and being like, oh finally, like these so much better. it's like Shut the hell up I'm over it. I'm done. And I know, I know it's in the edit. bllah, blah blah, whatever. It's just like you watch the way that they treat like you know what I think it is? think I think in the villa, the women are in control the women have the power and the men feel it and they feel like they're really dictating terms, you know, even, you know, maybe Sincere is moving this way, but like Melanie's reaction I think are prioritized by the, you know, it's just the women are generally in control And in in Casa, the men feel very in control. Obviously they they're the ones who get to picked. They' the main characters, the women of Casa like need to be literally picked in order to stay on the show. And I think clear not clearly, not I think, clearly They love that power that they're not receiving from the women in the villa. I hadn't thought about that. It is like a power dynamicitch completely. But then it's like you watch the way the men treat the women of Casa when they are in power and it's just like kind of icky. You know, And it's like I don't know. Very sexualized. Yeah. hyperxualized like not really looking to them as like like they're the replacement You know, for the w we have Corbin and well, it's mostly Corbin and he like Caleb's looking kind of Sweet and awkward And then they're like fist pumping because they know they're kind of pursuing the same girl again And it's but it's kind of giving Yeah, can we talk about the challenge Disgusted Yeah. Dgusted. They need mouthwash all the toes the mouth. I was like, I need to pray and I need to wash everything. My butt. She said my butt. said what got then there? What did they cut out? That It was awful. It was so hard to wash. Yeah I So bad for Caleb getting tickle. That made me actually so sad. too. That shouldn't have even been a tickle. firstirst of all. Whatm supposed to do Literally like is tickle What do you mean tickle? And of course it was Caayleb. I got it. the sweetest, most awkward H little angel. This man is not chance. No. He has not