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Will celebs like comedian Nate Bargettzi getting roasted for photo ops with Maga All Stars have more famous folks singing the same tun e as country superstar Kenny Chesney by steering clear of politics . I just never felt like it was my place . Then, from reports of a panic situation room meeting over the Epstein files to the president comparing himself to some of history's most infamous dictators, journalists Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan are dropping bombshell claims from their new book regime change come hot topics whoop whooping , Sarah Haynes , Joy Behar , Anna Navarro , Sunny Haustin , and Alyssa Farra Griffin. Now let's get things started Yeah , yeah . Welcome to the view, y'all. Welcome to the view. Welcome to the view . We walked out to I want to dance with somebody in honor of the loss of the great Clive Davis. He unlike anybody else . They called him the man with the golden ears because he could hear a song and see where he wanted it to go. He was an extraordinary man. man . The careers that he launched, the careers that he took over when the careers were floundering are just when you when you read his autobiography, which I suggest you all do or watch the documentary about him. He's remarked. He was remarkable. ninety three. He was ninety three. A good life. Yeah , yeah, a great life. I was a kid . Yes. Yes., you were They were still a kid. No, I said he was a kid. Yeah, he was a kid. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. ninety four. You were hanging out with them at an event that we were there was something. Yeah. But I'm not musical, so I don't really know if you like seem to know him . Well, knew him for lots of different reasons, but you know, Sandy Gallon had was the manager of a whole lot of folks and he was my manager. And so that's how I got connected to literally everybody because everybody knew Sandy. So it was great. But talking with him about music because he discovered Janice Joplin , you know, and Striploves so many of the limits on brilliant voices and so it's didn't they say he had golden ears? Yes. Yes. He was the man with the golden ears with the golden ears. It wasn't magnificent man . So thanks for the ride. Yeah , it's been great . Now talking Talking about the beauty and the wonder and now here we come . So you know whose second term is not going over well with a lot of big name conservatives, former Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green just announced she's following in the footsteps of Tucker Carlson by leaving the Republican Party . Here's why he says he's out . Click. There's no chance I would support the Republican Party , not to support the Democratic Party. I don't know what I'm going to do. I've been a consistent defender for thirty five years of the Republican Party. I mean, very consistent defender , but there's no defending this because it's immoral and it's exactly the opposite of what a political party in a democracy is charged with doing, which is representing its own voters, its own citizens, its own nation, and they're not doing that. So no, I'm out. And if I'm out, then I think a lot of other people are out So do you think a lot of voters feel like this? Well, people in his party are very you can vouch for this. They're very disappointed . Trump goes out a few years ago and says no more war interventions and then he's in the middle of an intervention. He says prices are going to come down and the prices are going up and inflation is rising. So they're very, very disappointed and I think he's leading the charge, although, you know, can't trust him. Listen , I'm all for people evolving on viewpoints. I think that life isn't stagnant and changing your mind can be a good thing. And I welcome a convert. This is a little different than like Bill Cassidy, Tom Tillis, John Cornyn, these die hard Republicans who have seen enough Trump and are now speaking out against him. Both Marjorie Taylor Greene and Tucker Carlson, I hope I get to talk to Marjorie for have her back on the show. They really pointed to the reason they're breaking with Trump. Yes, the war, but they say because Israel has too much influence on politics. Israel is controlling this president. And I'm sorry, that's a cop out to me. You voted for this man, you campaigned for this man. You put all your faith into this man. So now you're telling me he doesn't have a backbone enough to make his own decisions. It reminds me kind of of Lindsey Graham coming out and saying, JD Vance owns the Irndiel. No, just be willing to criticize the person that you voted for who is the president of the most powerful nation on Earth. Don't point to Israel. Don't point to JD Vance. It's Donald Trump you have a problem with and say it with your full chest because you supported him with your full chest. And you also voted for him knowing he had a massive ego and is possibly certifiably a narcissist . The reason Donald Trump went into Iran was not for Israel. It's because he has such a massive ego. He thought he could go in there and solve a decades long crisis in a hostile region and only he can do it. That's why he went in there. And if he doesn't have America first right now, I'll tell you who is in his mind, Iran, who's getting a great deal after Donald Trump tore up the one that Obama had made and proposed this one, which is what our backs are against the wall. And this deal gives Iran more. Israel's not happy right now . He Donald Trump attacked because of the terrorist regime in charge and now he's leaving it for the terrorist regime in charge and giving them sanctions, deals on the oil. He's going to give a three hundred billion reconstruction fund, something Obama didn't have to do. So if he's got anything in mind, it's definitely not America, but I honestly think Tucker Carlson needs to own his vote because he was not a one issue voter. Yeah. Well , I agree with that part. I think that Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Greene support. They ed Trump in spite of the fact that in my view, he is a racist. He is a homophobic. He is a malignant narcissist. He's an anti semite He's they were okay with all of those things . And so I do think they need to own that support . But I will say the reporting coming out of this war, it's very clear that the United States was influenced by Israel to get into the war . They went into the war . And the one thing that Marjorie Taylor Greene and Tucker Carlson are coming together on is that they're upset about foreign wars and they're upset about what about Israel. And if you look at it, don't you know the Jews for that blame but not to lead a loss to war about a different country. have to You can't make a difference. Let me just finish this point. I'm talking about Israel. I'm not talking about Jewish people. I think I'm not No they're not. I think criticism of a government Well yeah is different than criticizing a faith and I'm saying that even if what you say is correct, they need to take responsibility for what they did. They do. They do stop scapegoats, scapegoating. But we can't ignore we can't ignore that part. And if you look at the stats now, forty one percent Republicans are viewing our relationship with Israel unfavorably, which is up which is, yeah, it's up from about twenty seven percent in twenty twenty two. And so I think it's something that the Republican Party is really grappling with me wondering after what you're saying, Sonny. Not everyone critical of Israel is an anti semite. Every anti Semit is critical of Israel too. it is a very hazy line because a lot of people you can say a lot of people the government. Of course, I'm critical of Netanyahu, but I think it is deeply, deeply a cop out to say that the most powerful nation on Earth with the most powerful armed forces on Earth . The United States was solely influenced by this tiny democracy in the Middle East. Yes, but we do military operations jointly with other nations all the time. We know Netanyahu was supporting this war, but we know Donald Trump needs to own it, the person who was voted by the American. Possibility that he went into Iran to distract from the Epstein files. And by the way by the way , I would not lump Tucker and Marjorie together exactly because at least Marjorie is speaking out against the Epstein files. Tucker Carlson speaks out for Tucker Carlson. I agree with that. And by the way, Marjorie Taylor Green has talked about a broader array of issues. She came out significantly about cutting healthcare. That's a policy issue. She has a disagreement with Tucker Carlson is going to be back with Republicans as soon as there's another election and he's going to appear on stage. She's going to follow the money. She also was the Jewish space lasers and all that about that note. Well, not you know what? When you support this president , it's problematic and you know it's problematic . You know it's problematic. And you knew who he was when he came in . He said what he was going to do and he's done a whole lot of it. This Maggie Haberman book is that and they're going to be on with us later on. This book, my eyeballs were like this. Yeah. It might almost fell out of my opinion . It is so extraordinary to find out when they knew things and when they told us , it's very different. And Tucker and Marjorie knew those things and all of these knew these things. And you know what ? I want to know What their plan is , like what are you going to do? Where are you going ? Who's going to take you in? Do they want to have you? What is your what do you believe in? Because it's hard to know when you've given blanket stuff to a guy who you know should not be doing it and you allowed it to happen. Even though he spent a lot of time in the White House. Tucker Carlson has been regulated . Both of them has said that they're not going to be become Democrats . So and they're screaming about how unawan the Republican Party is pretty unawan to just say, well, I'm not doing anything. Well, maybe they'll become independence. I mean, that is what the biggest voting . But I also think that there's room for multiple parties in this country. It does, but who is the independent candidate? No idea. Well, there is You know, it doesn't even matter anymore . Y'all could have stopped this before it happened. And you actually saved it on making it happen. And you helped to make it . You created this because he allowed you this to go on. You were after Jet. But you knew what he was doing and you let it happen and you sat there and that makes you not much use to me because you don't care what happens to me. I care what happens to us. You only care what happens in your view. And that's not for me, that's not American. So it'll be interesting. Received back into the Republican Party. Yeah. He's incredibly powerful , has a huge platform. He's consistently one of the top ten most listened to podcasters in the country. And I do think that he's one of these folks who goes where the wind blows. He was against Donald Trump. We saw the january sixth text. I hate this guy. Yeah. He was back in hell . He says that the january sixth people were sightseers . Yeah, but at the time, he was saying something very different in text and texting that were revealing . Well, you know, he can't go up against the behind the view, right, behind the table. You guys have an amazing podcast. You know , so Tucker, come on, let's see, let's put our podcast together and see what happens. Did he win a webby? Did we win a webbow? He did not. Night. We'll be right back. Today I want to tell you about our friends at Cozy Earth. Can you remember the best night of sleep you've ever had? For me, oh it was, last summer and the Amalfi Coast. It was unbelievable. Ocean breeze and just the best sleep I've ever had. Well, good news, you can give yourself an amazing night of sleep every night by upgrading your bedding to Cozy Earth. Cozy Earth offers luxury bedding at an incredible price. Their ultra soft bamboo sheets, blankets, and duvet covers are the perfect companion for a night of uninterrupted relaxation. It's an innovative temperature regulating material designed to keep hot sleepers cool and cold sleepers warm all year round. So say goodbye to multiple seasons worth of bedding to make sure you stay comfortable as the seasons change. 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I just never felt like it was my place. It's not always everybody's place. You're right. And there's a certain ego, I think that lives in there and a certain box inside your head and your soul that you have to check for some reason to think that you can make a difference. I've never saw it to be my place to use my stage or platform no matter where I'm playing to tell people how to think or how to vote. They hear that. They get that everywhere else, everywhere, on every device . Exactly. Every network and they're there as an escape from all that stuff . So this is his choice to stay silent on politics, but what's wrong with people who want to speak up and who do speak up? I mean, don't they vote also? Yeah, like Bruce Springsteen. Springsteen walks the walk . He talks about politics. He's a great talent. He can afford it. I don't know if Kenny Chesney has and he can afford it. Yeah , with a large motion. I think that when you're If you can afford it, you certainly should speak up. It's an American obligation in a certain way. Yeah, but it's not for everybody . It's not everybody's ability. Washington once said that here on our show. She said, I'm an actress, but I'm a citizen first. So if you feel that civic calling, if you feel it , you know. But I like places where you can go to beat Reba McIntyre said something similar to Kenny Chesney. I provide the music that brings us all together. I like to be able to check out of something and not have it be politics. It is a twenty four seven news cycle. It's all I consume. Yeah. I need comedy, I need music. Right. But you will do your investigation to see where that is. Not everybody talks about politics. Not everybody wants to, and not everybody said he doesn't think he can make a difference. I disagree with that. I think that everyone can make a difference. Well, there was a twenty twenty four study in Harvard that studied whether or not celebrities' voices matter in elections like if a celebrity like Whoopi says all the time, vote, vote, vote . And when celebrities say take action, vote , it does matter. It makes a difference. The studies have shown that. But Kenny Chesney and I are good friends. I know that sounds strange to people, but I adore Kenny, we hang out a lot . We text each other and we have never spoken about politics ever. It is just not his jam, it is just not his thing. And I think what he said is absolutely accurate. He doesn't feel the need to talk about it. He doesn't feel that it's his place and that is who he is. That's all you want. We've talked about that at this table a lot of times. I do think that if you have a platform and you're comfortable using that platform to give voice to people that don't have vo , you must do it. If you are comfortable doing it, we all do it. Yeah. We do it for a little bit and we do it for a little bit. You feel you've done the research and you want to. One thing I looked at is the data is kind of conflicted on this. One thing celebrities are powerful in is getting people to register to vote. Yeah. Taylor Swift tweeted out a link and she got something like three hundred thousand plus people to register to vote. It wasn't a call to action to vote for a specific candidate. The data is more mixed as whether to it actually results in votes for someone, but I don't think we should put this undue pressure on celebrities who don't feel compelled to be like, you have to weigh on this issue. You have to have an opinion on this. I don't think it's and you should n't expect it from anyone unless they offer it to you, you know? Unless they offer it to you, then it's groovy. But if you going in looking for it, waiting for it, getting mad that they're not doing it, it's pointl ess because every individual has the right to make their own mind of. And sometimes it's just not your thing. And Kenny has some good news . I've never seen him not in a cowboy hat. He looks great in a baseball. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, he does. He does. Yes. But he'd look good in a basketball jersey. We'll be right back . july fourth, twenty four hours nonstop, live all across the country . We are all a part of this history, and when the country comes together to celebrate, this is where it happens . Disney celebrates America two hundred and fifty , a live American event two hundred and fifty years in the making. It's America's two hundred fiftieth birthday party. No one throws a party like Disney. Disney celebrates America to fifty. two hundred and fifty years of America more than twenty four hours on the air. This is going to be one extraordinary event. Welcome back to New York Times Journalist s who have spent the last decade covering You know Who are giving you a riveting behind closed doors look at his second term and baby , when you talk about jaw dropping, jaw dropping . In their new book, regime change. See, regime change. I did say that. Please welcome co authors Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan. First of all, welcome back, Maggie, and Johnson. Welcome to the show. We mentioned both of you have spent years reporting on him , but in this book, you zero in on his return to power for two point zero when you put the book together and you read it without all the hoopla and the craziness . Did your jaw drop open when you realized all the stuff that you all had collected and then put it in one place because I was like, Whoa I could not catch my breath. Yeah. Thank you for your welcome. This book nearly killed us to do seriously. I mean, it was it was incredibly exhausting. Yeah, and there is a reason that you have not seen this much inside the room reporting this time around. You had to really be devoid of eyes and ears to not have some piece of news in Term one. Yeah. This is not twenty seventeen. This is not twenty twenty. It is a much more controlled White House. They actually are pretty good at keeping secrets when they want to. So this took us a really, really long time. We're reintroducing ourselves to our families. And so when we look at it all in one place , we were very proud of this work. We did believe that we gave people an understanding of how their government functions functions and what that could mean for the next few years. Well, I have worked with the both of you for over a decade and when I'd get a call, Maggie or Jonathan are working on a story as a communication staffer, a chill goes down your spine. You would often know things I didn't even have access to and wasn't privy to yet. So the sourcing in this book is incredible. Thousands of interviews with senior officials , but the epilogue got me at the end. So in March, you sat down with the president and interviewed him a number of the times you talked to him just seventeen days into the war with Iran. And you had about an hour long meeting in the Oval Office, and it turned into kind of a stunning conversation about how he views himself. Can you tell us about that? I've had a few encounters with Donald Trump over the years. This was the most astonishing . We're sitting across the table from him in the Oval Office . It's the seventeenth day of the war with Iran . He has not a map of the Middle East, but photographs of maple trees on the table. And he says, you know, I'm buying maple trees for the White House and what have you. As one does. As one does. And then we asked him a question . He had told Tucker Carlson , we had this in our reporting earlier in twenty twenty five that he was the most powerful American president there ever has been. We asked him about that. And he's got this young woman who works for him called Natalie Harbor. They call her the human printer because she just prints. So Natalie, Natalie, go fetch me the thing. And she runs off and in about a minute she's back with these printouts and he hands them to us and he's like watching us while we're reading them. And he says, This is from a historian . And the document compares him favorably in terms of his power to Mao, Stalin, Hitler , Napoleon, Gengesh, Genges Khan, Alexander the Great, the Caesars . And he thought that was a good thing. Well, he among the top ten. There was no moral dimension to it. It was just about the metric of raw power . And he was sitting there , he said, Napoleon, it's very interesting. Hitler, Mao, Stalin. And we were sort of sitting there going, okay , it turned out the historian was actually a former golf caddy for Gary player . So not in his story. But it was illuminating in a different way, which is that Donald Trump in this term is taking these giant risks that he didn't take in term one. He wouldn't have gone to war in Iran given the same circumstances. He wouldn't have gone in and snatched a sovereign leader out of his bedroom in his pajamas like he did in Venezuela, start a trade war with the whole world. He, as he made clear to us, trying it's to be a Napoleonic type of figure, a capital Great Man figure of this era. That's his mindset for this trip. I think it's called Megalomania, I believe, is the reader diagnosis. I read about that . He also seems hyper focused on his renovation projects. So in the book, you dig into this, which is delightful. Not only do you claim the President engaged in design wars with M elania. They're arguing about design . Okay . She was an absentia. He was just taking items from the center hall in the residence that she had wanted left there, according to our reporting, and moving them either to the oval or to his bedroom. I see . But he also and this is disgusting. He has a carpeted bathroom. Now that is a germ magnet . That is disgusting. He's even been caught doing some of his decorating by hand . To explain that Caroline Levitt, the White House press secretary, walked into the Oval Office one morning last year and found the president holding a tube of super glue and affixing one of those gold items to the mantle of the fireplace in the oval office as one does. So he hung those himself . Does he have played also? He sun this didn't make it into the book, but we were told that they can't use the fireplace now because if you turn it on, it'll be it'll be interesting fire because of the glue and glue and whatever else. But yeah, so he's very into his renovation projects. Once he sort of covered every aspect of the oval office, yeah, he started gl uing gold challenge coins to various places. We had heard about this right before we went in to see him for this meeting in March . And we looked up and there they were on the wall. But he does mean if you sort of had a pie chart of Donald Trump's mind, a pretty substantial slice is devoted to interior correctly. That's true. When we walk to the Overseas he has the plans of the ball room. He wants us to see them. We have a scene in the book where he's in the Oval Office and he calls Emmanuel Macron, the president of France. Yes. And he says, Emanuel, tell me about your arch It's the Arch de Trion. He's asking about it. And he's asking about it. So people jump off it? Is there a viewing platform? And he's he's really just asking about because he's building his own arc and they call it in the White House, they call it the Arct to Trump. But he's truly he's building this in Washington, DC. He 's been building in Florida. Yeah. It's building something else in Florida. He's building up there too. Yeah. He's building his library in Florida. I echo what he said and all of my co hosts , this book is just phenomenal. It's so well reported. And Jonathan, you know, I've always I've been a fan for so long . But you are the part of the book where you explain in detail the administration's concerns about the Epstein files, and crisis meetings held in the situation room , which is supposedly the most secure location in the United States reserved for meetings concerning national security. The White House is reportedly looking for leakers and are concerned that there are audiotapes of the meetings inside the situation room. Now we have Vice President Vance here on our show and I asked him about the meetings in the situation room and intimated that there may be tapes. And he did not appear to refute that when I asked him what stands out to you in terms of the importance of what you uncovered about those meetings and the EPS files. So without getting into sourcing, obviously , I would note that and we watched the Vice President on the show , that he really didn't dispute the reporting and the accuracy of what we described in these meetings. So the Epstein , the handling of the files it became massive self inflicted wound for this administration. There are a number of people Vance , Dan Bonjino, who was the deputy FBI director, Cash Patel, who is still the FBI director, who had spent years in the MAGA media ecosystem saying there is a massive conspiracy . There are files explaining these rings of pedophiles around Jeffrey Epstein. We are going to get to the bottom of it. They come into government. Pam Bondi has this blunder where she says that it's sitting on my desk indicated a client list existed, right ? This became a foaming issue among Trump's own base. Trump wanted nothing to do with it. He didn't want to hear about Epstein. He didn't want any one talking about it with him, and he would snap at people. Now, you know, Trump had a falling out with Epstein at some point. There's various reasons that have been given as to why. I'm not sure we will ever really know why . But they were clearly close friend s for years and years and years. Lots of photographs. When Trump was mentioned, the New York Times correct. Third more than thirty eight thousand times. Yeah. Him, his family, Marlowe. So yeah, you know, it was pretty awkward. Yeah. And so he just wanted this to go away. And so in order to get rid of this issue, the FBI and the DOJ put out this memo that had no one's name attached to it saying, We've done this exhaustive search. Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide. There's no suspect closed. Place closed. We're not prosecuting anyone. That oddly didn't satisfy a base that had been pushed for a while. Yeah. And so these situation room meetings were about not pushing ahead with President Trump's signature legislation, the one big beautiful bill, which had just passed, and they put all of their political capital on the hill into doing this , but how do we deal with an issue that the president wants to go away in a way that doesn't upset him . Yeah . Hold on to that . Because we've taken a break and we'll be right back. Study , come together on a Windows eleven PC. And for a limited time, college students get of both worlds. Get the unreal college deal, everything you need to study and play with select Windows eleven PCs. Eligible students get a year of Microsoft three hundred and sixty five premium and a year of Xbox GamePass Ultimate with a custom color Xbox wireless controller. Learn more at windows dot com slash student offer, while supplies last and june thirtieth turns at aka. mslash college pc . 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So I mean the Bezos meeting with Trump, it was a dinner, and he was trashing the Washington Post as an investment. Now, it's a storied newspaper. His folks would argue, look, he's made cuts and therefore it's clear he was just talking about the business side. It hasn't been profitable for a long time. So if he didn't know what he was going into right, correct. And it's newspapers are vital in a democracy. So you either want to commit to them or you don't. And we're very lucky to work for a newspaper that does. Zuckerberg had a very, very personal meeting with Trump and one with St Mepillhener separate . And he then sent Trump some kind of, I don't think it was a holiday greeting, but it was like a letter to the president that his child had written for school. And it was about welcoming the golden age of Americ a, which is Trump's kids. There's a fireplace in there The reason the reason we know about this Trump was at his golf club showing off for texts. You won't believe these guys are kissing my you know . Yeah . And look, beeso suckers and again , like relishing the groveling. Yeah, as Illa Musk called it, he showed Musk these tests and Musk said it was quote unquote first class grovelling. It sort of set the stage for what we have seen in terms of a campaign not just of retribution, but of bullying of various industries . And some people are going along quite willingly, but we have seen it with the Smithsonian, and we write about that in detail in the book. We have seen it with law firms, we have seen it with individuals. We have seen it with media. We have seen it against this network, other networks. And so what that looks like going forward , I'm not sure, but that is a lot of what has characterized the last year and a half. And we get into this in detail. And very quickly, since we're running out of time, how do you guys see this Trump administration ending? Does he annoy a successor or does he go quietly? What do you think? No and know and know, not that we can make a prediction , but very quickly . When I look out at the arc of what comes and you know this because usually when you're in the middle of a midterm cycle of a lame duck presidency, which is what Trump is, you can see where it's going. Can't see this right now because there are going to be even if the house flips , we have no reason to believe that this government is going to go along with subpoenas or anything else. So we'll see. And it all comes down to what does accountability actually look like? Right. That's right. Congress, when it decides not to do accountability, there's not much left, really . He has sweeping immunity conferred by the Supreme Court . We have reporting in our book that he's been telling people he's going to pardon anyone who came within two hundred fifty feet of the oval office. He varies the distance sometimes, he says two hundred feet , sometimes he says twenty five feet, but there is some number of feet around the oval office in which you'll receive a pardon. So he's acting with impunity for very good reason, for very rational reasons. And I think we should have laws. We should mention that Trump has not been accused of any wrongdoing and denies any knowledge of Epstein's alleged crimes. Yes, that is true. And he has said that repeatedly. we have not we should also make clear that we don't have any reporting to suggest otherwise. Yeah . But there is the law. Don't forget we have the law and the law has been on our side as has but the Constitution. Never think the Constitution doesn't work for us because it's kicking people in their butt. This book regime changes out today. Scan the QR code on your screen to purchase a copy. Do yourself a favor, get it. I'm telling you you need to get the book. It's worth the read. 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Many people are on GLP ones, and one of the things is that can loosen the skin around your neck. So talk about that a little. Yeah, so lots of people with a lot of weight loss recently, a lot of skin laxity, especially in the neck, the jawline area, my patients are constantly asking about what they can do about that skin laxity, which is really where targeted retinol led skincare matters. Now, as a dermatologist, people come in, we offer laser going under the knife, but you know, that's costly. That's invasive, very expensive. If you don't want to undergo those costly cosmetic procedures, what do you recommend for an at home treatment? Yeah, so because it's developed with dermatologists, I love Rock's firming serum stick as an at home, non invasive lift for the face and neck. So it goes on so smoothly. Yes, I know you love it. You kind of use it like a gouacha, right? Like up the neck . It's not sticky at all. It feels so good . But Rock loves their clinical studies, right? So Rock conducted a clinical study and three out of four said their skin was visibly smoother . Wow, almost instantly. And ninety four percent had firmer skin in just four weeks. I like the attention to the neck in general. Yeah, there aren't always things you can do to feel empowered . Absolutely. Yeah. So there's a reason that this is the number one face and neck serum in the US. And I know you're going to love this. The best part super affordable. You can get it on Amazon for less than thirty dollars. Oh , I love when it's a deal doctor who doesn't love a deal. Well, a big thank you to our doctor Zubritsky and our sponsor Rock Skincare . Scan that QR code or go to Amazon. com and for a limited time, intercode rock ten for ten percent off one rock firming serum stick. And remember to always consult your doctor before making any treatment plan . And guess what? Members of the audience are going home with a gift from Rock Skincare . You'll be right there . 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