After Dark Q&A Session

What is up everyone? and welcome to the Wedh. We've got a great show lined up for you guys today. Google has been found liable for false information provided by AI overview. This is in Germany, so it might not necessarily be helpful to everyone, but it is a step towards holding bigig tech accountable for the false information that it propagates with its U you know, let's call them sophisticated and yet foundationally flawed AI technology. In other news, speaking of flawed technology, Donut Labs's solid state battery has been exposed as a regular lithium ion thanks to some incredible work from one of our fellow YouTubers I oh man, I hate it when people do this. So whose name I'm actually going to use, unlike the way that people usually cite YouTubers, Zerooth Fantastic video we're going to be talking about a little bit later. No, don't you hate that, Luke When the headline of a traditional media article is YouTuber don Youuber. Yeah. YouTuber has a name what else we got this week You can just tell the Instagram algorithm what you want now, which is actually kind of interesting. And this is this is a sounds really fantastic on the surface and is kind of, but is also terrifying A Florida hospital is using Palanter catch sepsis earlier. And it's saved eight hundred and eighty six lives so far So is this one of those cases where like Even a broken clock is right twice a day, Palanter did something we're supportive of U well Let's get more into it Yeah The show is brought to you today by Odu, O Manager Nexus, Squarespace and server parts deals alongside Dbrand, our Rp partner, Razor. Our laptop partner and also Razor our oops. That logo is supposed to be visible, I thinkur chair partner, I'll be getting to this a little bit later. This is super cool, but we'll come later All right, why don't we jump right into our headline topic, which is that Google has been found liable for false information provided by AI overview. In a potential landmark case, the Regional Court of Munich has ruled that Google, if they're going to, you know, have their product, bid out an output based on all of the data that they ingested, some of it legally, some of it, it seems we're still questioning the legality of it. They're accountable for what it says, which you know, maybe is a good thing, the same way that newspapers were accountable for what they printed and you know, radio shows are accountable for what they say. Well, Google's AI is also accountable. Yeah, if you're a mass media outlet and you reach literally millions of people, you should have some accountability for haaving there be a factual basis to the things that are being propagated Sure, I just don't know how often that actually like applies. It applied to u U what's his name Um You're not going to bring up Alex. you are. Okay, that's where you're going with it. Well, yeah, I mean, it relies on somebody to actually hold you accountable to it in many cases. but there is there is a basis But there is an expectation that if you are spreading information, that you are responsible for the accuracy of it The case was initially brought by two German publishing companies after Google's AI overview presented information about them combined with that of shady companies and online scams And then drew information that didn't appear in any of the linked sources Which I mean, Luke, have you ever experienced that with Google's AI overview where it goes blah, blah, blah, this thing. Citation and then you click it complepletely not in there Citations by AIs are are pretty sketchy in general, but U this this does line up. This was pointed up by fllippping chat as well, but I think I lost the message, but this does line up with other things. There's customer support chat bots where what they say has been held as like fact. So the support chatot offers you something And the company is held to follow through with it. Did I just see it? I thought I just saw it. D. So somebody in chat pointed out, I think it was Air Canada. Yeah Paiage in Chat said Air Canada was already held liable for something incorrect their support Chapbot said. And I think there was other companies as well, not just Air Canada So Google Yeah, it kind of follows other things. Google pulled the classic defense of, well, users can fact check for themselves. and they do plan to appeal the ruling with a spokesperson saying This case focuses on specific and narrow errors not the foundational way that AI overviews display web content. Um Right, but These specific and narrow errors are inherent to the way that Foundationally, AI overviews seem to work at least at this stage in the game, like these hallucinations are not New They're not Unknown And to Google's credit, they do say in AI overviews that, you know, AI can make errors and that you need to check it or whatever. But like I think there's a I think there's still a if we all know, Right? It's kind of like it's like what went down with end user license agreements, right? Like you had these long, theoretically legally binding documents. Everybody knew on both sides the companies writing these end user license agreements, the people signing them, everybody knew that nobody was reading them. So when Push came to shove, it was ultimately found that If someone was not actually informed and was not actually aware, then this stuff wasn't going to be binding. It didn't just absolve you of breaking a law, the fact that you wrote into your end user license agreement that you were allowed to do it. So in the same way, if we know that people are trusting this stuff and that they're not noticing these errors and they're not actually doing the due diligence in my opinion, there's a certain responsibility on the companies that are putting this Information, I'm going to put that in giant air quotes, putting this information out there to ensure that it is factual. And if it's not factual, Who's accountable Who's responsible And yeah, Google's going to say the user But Lake I think Google knows probably better than just about anyone else that the user is just not going to do that work The entire the entire premise of this feature is that we're just going to surface the information in an even more convenient manner because we know the user doesn't want to click through and read a bunch of stuff. That's the whole point So We have a few discussion questions here. First of all is Should the AI pushers be allowed to use the public as their beta testers? while they work out the kinks here? Is there a level? I'm going to clarify this or I'm going to add a layer to this one. Is there a level of disclaimer that you would consider acceptable so that it could just w misinformation like this. Like how beta would it have to look and feel U I'm trying to see what it looks like right now, just out of curiosity. Sure. It doesn't look like there's any flags whatsoever So above the fold, Um I just Googled testing and it gave me an AI overview of the word testing Um, and Before clicking showh more, there's nothing. It has the little Gemini icon. It says AI overview. there's the quick summary with its citations more information, more links on the right hand side, but there's no indication that this isn't ready to go. Yeah, I've got I did the same thing just to make it a little bit easier for the people. So it's got a couple citations here. that makes it look very credible Clickhow more. Once you click show more, there's fine print at the very bottom that says AI can make mistakes or double check responses. Holy crap. I actually do I have that? Am I missing it guys Am I missing something here? It's online. It's right above where the chat input is where you would type Just to the left of the like share like and dislike buttons.. Am I am guys help me out here? I feel like I'm gaslighting myself because I was pretty sure there was a thing I do not see it. Wha, I don't see it on yours. What the heck Mine has it What? What the heck That's super weird It's on my side Okay, people People are asking if I have an ad blocker. I mean, it shouldn't do that, but like what extensions do I have I got nothing here guys. Here's my extensions What else we got here guys What else we got Do you want to open a private browsing tab and do the same thing? I would like to do that very much Okay B blah. There it is Yeah. Wh whoa who whoa, okay, so that's interesting. It also moved this interface over to the right. Yeah, it's probably just reactive, but yeah didnn't Need Yeah, but it went all the way from left aligned to right aligned though. Oh no, it's not quite left aligned. Oh, you're right. Interesting Is it even quite right al ligned though? You know what? No, no, I think. Yeah, no, it's just buffered off on both of them. Interesting So it just It just didn't For some reason sometimes, I mean, man Okay, so back to my question, then what is the degree of disclaimer that would be acceptable to you? Obviously, what I encountered just there with no disclaimer. And this is Chrome. This is like Chromest Chromeass Chrome of Chrome browsers. I don't even have any extensions or anything. Like there is no excuse because I'm Googled all the way through the pipeline. So clearly that's not acceptable at all. And honestly, I don't even think the other version that I got in the incognito window. I think you and I could probably both agree that's not enough if it's going to be making like egregious errors like this Yeah. So that's acceptable print that you have to click show more to even see. Like it's literally not like you can get results that are conclusive results and not see the disclaimer because you didn't click show more You need to click another thing in order to get the disclaimer is like obviously not enough. I think it would need a pretty major badge. I don't look at the AI overview too often, so I wasn't really ready for this, but I was expecting it to next to where it shows the Gemini logo and AI overview, I was expecting a big sad beta testing batch Um Right. So you want it like right here. like AI overview, beta,, you know, results may contain m factual errors and incorrect information, check all cited links in order to verify before believing anything it says. wouldould that be enough for you? U I mean, I don't like the future at all, but yeah, I think that would be enough for me. Soone in chat mini catalysts said, dumb user here, I didn't know it was Beta I don't I think that it is U I don't think it's in I haven't seen I don't see any indication on the feature that it's in beta Yeah, I just said, beteta Uh, because don't know. That's the type of thing that I'm used to flagging, I guess. Right. I was speaking for them. So yeah, like I guess don't flag it with beta, but someome much more in your face thing saying that this information U. is man, I'd like to even say likely incorrect because I catch the very few times that I've really use the AI overview on Google. Yeah, it's wrong like. a lot of the time. I don't know what model they're running, but it seems not sophisticated. It It's fast Like it really does seem like they're running a pretty fast, pretty light pretty not thorough model. And the funny thing about it is I forget what I was looking at earlier today But I was I was sitting in I was sitting in script review with Elijah And For And may this is maybe this is crazy, but we oh yeah, I remember what it was. We were looking for comments. like you know how sometimes in our videos, we'll do like a collage of similar comments. like last time on Tech House, you guys asked, you know Why we scavengge the copper the way we did and we go, and' put a bunch of comments about that. So there's a really cool new feature in the YouTube dashboard where you can search your comments using AI search for anything that instead of just searching for like a keyword, you can look for anything about this topic or anything that was critical of Linus' hairdo or whatever. you can search for sentiment now, which Honestly Pty Cool and useful feature for LLMs anyway So I searched for something specific. I don't remember exactly what it was, and it crapped out a list of all the comments. And I was like, oh, that's super great. And okay here, Elijah, when you're going through and you're doing the guidance for this video, here let me just copy this link to the studio dashboard to the search result and I will throw that into the script like guidance column And then I was like, wait, is that going to work? Right? Like is it I know it'll bring up the dashboard? I know I can link someone who also has access to the dashboard and I can even link them to the specific page, but it is it going to link that search query? And so I clicked it to check it And it did But I was like, hey, wait a second I think it generated that result again. didn't cash it at all whichich honestly for something like the YouTube dashboard, wouldn't surprise me that much But for something like a super commonly searched term like this Like, dude did you get exactly the same result as me? Or did you get an LLM generated output fresh for you. Do you want to have a quick look? Um, yeah, so mine I think I closed that tab already. Okay., you could just search again. I'll read mine and you tell me when it stops matching Testing is the systematic process of evaluating itself. already off. Okay So Here's a question For me. And you know, I am not a systems architect. I am not a deep expert on LLMs or anything of the sort But what I do know is that right now We have Big tech, absolutely desperate. to build more data centers in order to support their AI endeavors Um We have just like a like a massive volume of use of products like search And we have this technology that we've had for, you know, all of computing cashing that It seems to me might be useful. So why would they run likeike a crappier model that to your point, yeah, I've noticed that AI overviews makes a. Ton of mistakes more than other better LLMs makes. So in order to manage their resource usage, wouldn't you think they would just Cash this like cash common queries, update them once a day, once every couple days. like the definition of testingesting is not going to change between now and tomorrow Yeah, and I find it interesting because before If I would Google something like a specific word. and I would do this very often. Yeah. It would it would surface, you know, a definition Um Sometimes I will I've done this in the past and you know, maybe they don't want me to do this, but I've done this in the past where sometimes I'll Google something for a spell check. Yeah because the Google search will be like, you spelled this word wrong, right? Um Now it'll think I'm like trying to talk to it And I reed some weird, some weird scenarios. Yeah, I like Google is genuinely significantly less useful for me and I've been using it way less This is interesting. overview became a thing. This is interesting. They're doing at least a little bit of caching. Chat pointed out that my two search results, one in my regular browser and one in my incognito tab, did return identical results Okay Interesting, try a different browser entirely Okaykay, All right, I'll open it All right Microsoft. A you are you a Microsoft representative Are you trying to No, well, I mean you can use Firefox. I don't have it on here You could use Chrome to get Firefox. I did get the same result Interesting. 'cause I know there was this thing recently, I don't know if we talked about it on Y show or not, but Google Chrome is reserving like a bunch of space on your drive for AI stuff. And I don't remember if that included things like results and whatnot. Okay So a different browser getting the same one is interesting. Someone in chat, oh, I just saw it U Kuro atsuna twenty nine said, I wonder if it's region cach. I'm in a different region. Yeah. That would be interesting. Yeah, that could be it. Because mine goes, testing is the act of subjecting a system person or process to experiments which is different than yours, yeah It's close but different, right Yeah L little bit, little bit different. And I refreshed the page and got the same thing. Let me try in a different browser. Okay. All right, this has become kind of an interesting rabbit hole. sorry, guys, I know you were expecting Wan show, but I mean, this is wh show this is kind of Wam show Yeah Testing Oh Okay In Firefox tasted on this device Um I'm not logged in So it's Figuring out my geol location and making everything U Mandarin. I'm guessing Oh, that makes sense actually It did not give me an AI overview at all Okay, then Yeah, that checks out English tryrying to do URL things Avlon Fox says it's probably quicker to regenerate than to pull from cash. Yeah, but that's exactly what I was kind of wondering is like are they better off using a better model U and then using caching versus a super light model that like makes a ton of mistakes especially when it's something that, you know, is is a pretty static outcome, like a like something that is not going to to change from day to day like the definition of a common word, for instance. One second here, sorry There we go. C I change this It's also interesting to me that it's u It cites Cambridge Dictionary as its first one uh with Club. mininistry of Testing, whatever the devil that is and also some YouTube short. And then when I actually go there There's an ad Oh wow, that's a lot of LTT store ads. Oh my goodness Anyway nowhere on the Cambridge Sid is like exactly that definition. And you'd think it would be It would be simpler and less error prone to just Give me lot LT store or lot LTT store I'd say. Holy crap. All the LT st. How much money was just spent spamming your browser with that I shuddder to think You know, it might have been pretty effective because it ended up on WN show though. Okay, so mine mine did not match U, but I'm wondering if so so I went to specifically a like Canadian Google search thing U I didn't actually realize this was even a thing at all. I searched up Google Canada And Uh it gave me like I don't know. If you go to Google right now, does it show a like red and white Google logo with the Canadian Soccer Association logo and stuff flicking by U Sorry, this? I see I gott to wait for this thing to catch up. Oh yeah, okay. Okay. so I got that basically. and I searched on there. Yeah. and now I got testing is the act of evaluating, measuring or examining the capabilility, safety or characteristics of something. then blah blah, blah, blah blah blah. C the same as yours U Be that is very different than my previous one Not quite. systematic process of evaluating a system product or idea to determine its functionity performance and safety. Yeah, so it just it shuffles things around a little bit And when you shuffle things a little bit, well then you introduce the potential for errors and it just seems to be a feature rather than a bug and that's just kind of what we're stuck with and someomebody's Somebody's got to be accountable for it. And you know Google's basically saying, hey, well, it should be the user, but I mean, we just with the simplest of tests seearching the word testing found that it will sort of move things around, it'll cite sources that don't actually have exactly that definition I just and and it's hard because it's really tempting because it's right there Like I find myself searching for something and going Right, right, right, right, right. I can't trust that. Don't look at that U that go under the fold and start clicking into things because it's just It's just so convenient Why don't we jump into our next big topic? You want to pick one Sure. let's tackle this because I'm interested in how this is going to go A Florida hospital is using Palantir to catch sepsis earlier. It saved eight hundred and eighty six lives so far Um Yeah, Tampa General Hospital in Florida has used Paler built has used a Palanter built system called the Spssis hub. Okay, that's a scary name. It is to save an estimated eight hundred and eighty six lives since twenty twenty two. having sepsis related deaths The software pulls real time data from electronic health records, lab results, clinician notes, and bedside monitors across roughly a thousand patients at once, watching for subtle early signals of sepsis that can get lost on a busy floor. That alerts a rapid response team, so flagged patients get antibiotics within an hour It's also cut sepsis patient hospital stays by thirty percent, which is G to benefit All other problems basically. Context why this matters? Spsis kills around three hundred fifty thousand Americans a year, making it the leading cause of death in US hospitals. Tampa General isn't alone in its results either. A separate AI model called compomoser tested by UC San Diego across two ERs showed a seventeen percent drop in sepssis deaths after going live The discussion question is if an AI system could demonstrably have sepsis deaths at one hospital, what's actually stopping every other hospital from deploying the same kind of tool Um C' the thing stopping it a lot of the times. Posture, but also rigor Um They have to verify that this thing actually does work first. I mean now one working. I think that will probably Help it to become something that would be to make sure it's not doing anything else potentially bad as well Um, But it is probably pretty good. And obviously, you can't exactly balk at eight hundred and eighty six lives. and I think Oh families of people saved would Proably even be annoyed that I even brought this up. But one thing that flagged me immediately when reading this is that Palanter is receiving the health records, lab results, clinician notes, and all the details from the bedside monitors of every single patient at this entire hospital Um well, roughly a thousand patents. I don't know if it's every sing. I think that's everyone at the hospital. I think it's everyone at the hospital that has those things Um, I could be wrong, but I think that's the case because their note here, the other thing that I thought was interesting is it's not just patients with sepsis. Because they're trying to do early warning detections for patients getting sepsis. U So I think they're just If you're if you're that wired up Um I think your initial assessment was right. By the way, this is hilarious AI overview Tampa General Hospital is licensed for thirteen hundred and fifty four total beds system wide across the blah, blah, blah blah, blah. U blah, blah blah, blah. aboutb Tampa General Hospital Tampa General is licensed for nine hundred and eighty two beds right under it Beautiful. Fantastic. I honestly, I find mistakes in the AI overview like almost every single time I use it. It I hate it. It has genuinely made Google significantly worse U I have seen myself using other tools because Google is Worse for me now than it was in like I don't know twenty fifteen like genuinely eleven years ago. Like we've gone so far back that we're over a decade behind Um You know mayaybe it'll eventually be better or something, but its it's worse than useless right now U Anyways, back back to the topic. Looking at Palenter's playbook, They want to own all of the data in the world. they've basically publicly said that they don't want people to have any form of freedom and that People won't commit crimes anymore when there is genuinely no such thing as privacy because any government in the world would instantaneously know if anyone did anything out of line Um Like they they are Not good. and I think it's going to be very, very difficult for people to look at this thing that is making a massive positive impact eight hundred and eighty six liivves having the deaths and reducing hospital stays for a common and major issue by thirty percent are not things that anyone can balk at. Those are very serious numbers. Those are exciting things. I mean anyt timee you talkult to deny evenven to an AI skeptic You know, one of the first things they'll say is like, Yeah, when they When they announced this stuff, they promised it was going to revolutionize medicine. If that's what it was doing. then I would be fine with it. L pretty much everyone I talk to who's like anti AI is like, okay, but If it was this then it would be fine It's just that Unfortunately, you've got companies like Palantir that are doing that stuff where we're saving human lives, which seems like a pretty useful and noble endeavor for AI, but also using it as a means to collect that data to pursue a lot less comforting future outcomes. Um Yeah So I think that could be one of the things back to our discussion question. preventing other hospitals from deploying this same technology I also think like you wouldn't really have a choice A lot of times depending on how bad your condition is, you just literally have to go to the closest hospital.'ve Heard some weird stuff about the American medical system Wear to light you're out of your insurance capture zone or something, so you have to get driven further somethingomet something, I don't know, I'm a Canadian. our health carere system does not work that way But like. This stuff's just gonna be running. likeike I I doubt you're, you know there's there's a lot of systems built around healthcare and end of life where like the funeral business is incredibly lucrative because When someone passes You don't want to seem like a cheapsate Yeah, peopleople are very unlikely to say no. to upsells So the industry makes a lot of money. The health carere industry is very similar. There is a ton of money that goes into especially near end of life because if someone closely related to you is suffering You are very unlikely to say no No um upgrades in care. This is one of those situations where it's like are you okay with the health records, lab results, clinician notes, bedside monitor access and probably tons of other things being mass data harvested from your loved one Oh also they might not die if you click this checkbox. A lot of people are going to click the checkbx. Yep. I would wager pretty much everyone But then that also does lead to the, you know, the super dystopian futures that specifically Palantir has been saying they want to create. Yvon keeps asking me what I want for my funeral and I'm like I'm dead To do whatever makes you happy, I couldn't possibly care. Yeah o Monetize it. I don't know. Chargeget misson m sure there's at least someone who'd want to see me dead. They'll show up Farewell, Farewell, infury, your tech linus It our Chur' admission. o my God. I mean, you've heard me say that if you guys catch it on camera, have you have to monetize it, right I have. I was actually I was talking to someone about that surprisingly recently and I u Yeah. I was like, you know, he said that before. I don't know if he still feels that way or not. So Oh yeah do it you do. do it. I mean, how like we got to everyone's got to get their severance and everything. if for whatever reason we can't keep going without me, right? You got you got to milk it, milk it as good as you can as long as you can. And then when I'm When it's over, it's over. and it was it was a wonderful ride while it lasted Man, okay, sorry. Katsune Lane in full plan chat said Luke's dedication to Linus is a Wan show delivered live from beside his coffin. That would be so depressing because it would be so Long openen casket. I hope. I'd have to sit there. I'd have to sit there like open casket for like four hours Oh my God Oh, here practice I can't even hold on one second I gonna Yeah Oh How long could we keep the streak alive? I mean, would you would you would you bring would you bring my ashes and put them put them next to you? and you and Dan can just do the WN show and just put put me on the shelf ye I think from the Eurn show. Oh Do the sponsor spots? The sponsor spots can just go to like a earn camera We could we could make the lid go up and down like the Canadians on South Park. If anybody sends if anybody sends a comm in, that's a direct question for me, you could just like You could just cut to my camera and then just leave it there for a bit and then cut back and keep going. Awkward silence The one thing the one place I draw the line though, is no LLM resurrection of me. I am one of the people on earth who would be relatively easy Two LLM in honestly a pretty accurate fashion But I don't consent to that I don't approve of that.. Could we So I'll just on the En camera, I'll just have to like flap the lid of the En to pretend you're talking and just yeah try to You have to puppeteroice You can even do the voice. Oh great. Yeah. Yeah, yeah yeah. I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. I don't know who outside of Dbrand would accept those ad spots. I mean, Dbrand would do it If D brands still around probably they would do it Yeah I can find out Also, laughing about flapping your urn. I'm in a rather public place just so viewers of the show know. I'm at Lee Huaang, I've featured this place a couple times. There was one time somewhere around ten years ago in the Dest and Internet Cafes video that I featured this place and then There was also short a little while ago, but I needed a good internet connection. So I was like we were having some issues with hotels and their internet connections. So we just decided to do the show from here. and People can definitely hear me Gice Hold on, hold on, hold on my reps typing. There's a robot, there's a robot typing I said you would sponsor wrapping my n, right Yeah, I'll schedule it too Classic Yeah, notot surprised. Yeah that checks out I mean, they've tried to kill me enough times, sending me packages full of broken glass and whatnot. got a comment why they're just annoyed. They haven't been able to do that type of an ad spot yet. They've been waiting for so long Oh man. All right, we should probably jump into our next topic here. This is On the surface kind of cool You can apparently just tell your Instagram algorithm what you want now. Instagram is expanding its your algorithm feature to the main feed, letting you directly tell the app what you want to see It shows you a list of topics Instagram thinks you're interested in based on your activity, and you can add topics that you want or remove ones that you don't changes will carry across Reels, Explorer, and now the main feed since it's all one system. It started in the US and is rolling out globally in English Instagram head Adam Missouri framed this as fixing a one sided relationship. The system learns from what you tap and watch, but you've never been able to just tellell it what you want. He credits large language models for making it possible, since older ranking systems ran on data that no human could read, while LLMs can now sort content into plain language topics For now it is limited to topics, but Instagram says that controls for specific people Mood and content types R Cing I mean, I think it's a good thing. It seems like what it always like should have had the ability to do. I recognize that I guess the challenges around like metadata and tagging and like how manual something like that could be U I can see how LLMs could help with that, but also, I mean, we've spent ninety percent of the show so far talking about how fundamentally flawed they are and how often they make mistakes. Uh This is a This will be abusable I don't know if there will be a reward in abusing it, but this feels like it is going to be susceptible to like Spiderm Man and Elsa style issues people that don't understand that reference Kids YouTube years ago. was taken over by some really weird content Um people like Cosplaying as Spider Man and Elsa and other characters and doing some weird stuff You wouldn't really expect to be on the kids side of YouTube U, but it got there because O the framing of the video And I could imagine that something similar could happen in this type of system I think the reward is I mean, the reward of Spider Man and Elsa just was always Aense? Well, I guess yeah, adense. So maybe yeah, more reward than for just getting views on Instagram. but there's also the there's also the reward of just gettingetting clout and building up followers on Instagram. Social media accounts are worth money Um yeah. And especially you know, with automation tools, the ability to create accounts to abuse these systems, to grow to some threshold, to then be farmed off to, you know scammers who need plausible looking Instagram accounts, you know, whatever the model is, I often find myself very surprised by the things that scammers will come up with. Like there was that recent one where there was that like warehouse of consoles that was farming like FIFA card packs or something. I can't remember the exact details of it. I'm not a I'm not a FIFA guyan, do you remember? Oh, okay, I just assumed you were into football being an English person and all that Crick Wow, likeike a normal person. Got it, that makes sense I don't go inside Yeah, I remember that topic. I don't remember the specific details. I think it was like farming throwaway matches basically in order to get pack openings, like free generating pack openings I don't know why that benefits them or anything, but Yeah. It's It's interesting. I can't necessarily imagine how you would abuse this. It just feels to me how an LLM would view this content. is probably abusable in some way. I don't know what to what end. But it feels like it probably would be I also don't know like what kind they're even saying you can sort by moods whichich is interesting. So like is it doing the linus maneuver? and is it reading the comments Um So could you manipulate this set upp by convincing your audience somehow to all comment in a particular way Um I don't know. this almost feels like something like Siffing Brit should dive into, although he seems to just do YouTube stuff. Past Yeah But it'd be interesting. I mean, I like the idea of being able to more manually control our feeds. I also respect Linus' dedication to keeping his Facebook marketplace weird as heck But if I could just tell Facebook Marketplace that I wanted to show me weird things, that would also be nice. Um, yeah Like one thing I think this is good. One thing I've wanted from YouTube for a long time is the ability to tell them what my video is about a little bit because they can mostly figure that out on their own But what I really want is to tell them who it's for Because remember remember way back when you made here. I'm actually just gonna pull up the video U, come on This one. You to imagine. Oh for crying out loud This one right here installing a video card, how to Basics on Linus Tech Tips ten years ago. This video got absolutely dogpiled out of the gate hated it. Pople like actually pissed when ited. So angry and and and it There was momentum around it because that was back when the like dislike ratio was visible publicly. So people it was very negative. saaw that people hated it and then they piled onto it even more and it created this death spiral of hatred and negativity around this video and If you actually just, you know Watch the video. you don't say anything wrong H then is it did it it was people hated it just because it was beneath. Most of the average viewers of LTT at the time Yeah, it was one' that the information was incorrect. It's just that they were like It's a graphic card, b Yeah you just put it in b. But I'm pretty sure we included things like DDUing, your drivers and like did stuff like that. Like I think it was I think it was like decently you did a good job. Rented at the time. You did a very good job. It was lambasted because it hit the wrong audience. you're kind of saying. Exactly. So what I've been asking YouTube for is the ability because Because what's happened is We've kind of our channel has kind of Michael Bayed itself becausecause we can't just make a video on installing a CPU anymore. becausecause what's gonna happen Is it fear? You bumped your m careful. What's going to happen is it's going Jump on the feed of everyone from someone who subscribed to LTT yesterday to someone who subscribed to LTT seventeen years ago. And These folks, your regular viewers are going to feel like like patronized and they're going to feel like This is a complete and utter waste of time And what tends to happen is algorithmically, YouTube will kind of go, well, your channel is about, you know And the people who are interested in X don't like this. Therefore, this is probably bad content. But what I would actually really like is the ability to tell YouTube, hey This video is not for my regulars This is not not This was a new viewers' like only basically. Yeah. And I'm okay with that resulting in it potentially doing worse, especially out of the gate don't want it to massively negatively affect the long term potential of the video by it nuking a bunch of potential views on people who would never click on it Becauseuse like if, you know, if someone's in floatple chat or or they've just been You know, I'll meet people at events all the time that are like, I've been watching since the NCIX days like, bro, you know how to install a GPU Exactly. Like it's you don't you don't need this Um The vast majority of people who have watched more than one to three LTT videos or realistically any other computer hardware tech videos on YouTube isn't going to need a video on how to install a GPU But that doesn't mean that a bunch of people Don't need iter So here's another great example. The first time you've ever a computer. if you just spent a bunch of money on hardware and you want to build a computer for the first time and you don't have an in person mentor, you want to make sure that you don't ruin this incredibly expensive component as you put it into your computer, you might want to watch a little video on how to install it. Yeah. And so we wanted this was that was supposed to be a series. That's why the title is appended with this how to basasics. I had in my mind that I wanted to create three sort of series of like to really get back down to tech tips and do like how to Basics, which was kind of like a play on how to basic, which was like kind of a viral thing at the time. And then I wanted how to intermediate and like how to advanced. So we would do these tutorials on everything from installing a graphics card to like you know reconfiguring ports on your router to, you know, setting up a setting up a NAS with, you know, multiple tiers of high speed and low speed storage. And we kind of We'd kind of segment them out and just create these like very evergreen guides. The reception to it was so negative that we did a couple of them and we kind of went, Well, holy crap. we can't can't do this. And then ultimately, years later, that like dislike ratio actually totally turned around and the video now has two point three million views. But that's not nearly as many as it probably would have if it hadn't had its growth stunted right at the beginning there Yeah, it's you know what's kind of interesting is I've heard The Younggins these days A to go back to a previous topic. I actually also hate Google search now. L Google search just sucks these days. The results are terrible and the AI search is worse than the auto they had in theast. Like it's just Google search is just going completely down the hole U, but a lot of the youngs are using like TikTok for search W Hurt my brain a lot when I first heard it Um But Apparently it's because they're using it in the way that a lot of us probably use YouTube, which is where we look up like, you know, how do I fix my washing machine or whatever. Yeah. Here's a weird question. Someone in someomeone in chat said that you can Instagram has like a trials feature where it won't send it to your cribers or something. I lost the message. Andrew Candy, Instagram can kind of do this with trial reels. it doesn't send them to your followers. I don't know exactly how that works, but maybe The how to Basics series, maybe a different name,m not sure. could return, but in shorts format I could see potential card, the shorts version, how to install Ram. the shorts version. It can also even work in long form though. Here Dan, I'm just gonna see if my laptop is working. Oh yeah, there we go. I'm on my daily driver here, some logged in. So here's an example of one that kind of shows How Dad This can be So we uploaded like just building a PC You know, just I'll build For the first time in like ages So first day performance of this video was four hundred fifty eight thousand literally half of the upper end of our typical range absolute bombed. Out of the gate And then Eventually, The algorithm figured out, o, okay. yeah. o this is a high quality video that just the subscribers to this channel were not interested in. Sp Now it's more than double the high end. off your typical range And just, you know, daily as The English speaking world awwakens and slleeps and awakens again. It just gets views Um But it would be really but it doesn't always work out that way. So right, the other one that I was going to pull up was Riley did a thousand dollar Gaming PC. So here we'll go back to Lineus laptop This one also bombed out of the gate in spite of the very liable super Riley. and then never found that audience. And you know what? Maybe we just, you know, maybe just didn't work. Maybe a thousand dollars guide was not as good as a two thousand dollars guide. whatever. I don't know the exact answer to why one of them went and one of them didn't. But I've been telling Google for years. I would just love to be able to just tell you. I can tell you, I know who it's for And as a variety channel, it's something that we've struggled with our entire existence and I think we struggle with more and more Now where one video on our channel one day is touring a data center And then the next day is like tearing down the walls of the tech house so that we can run conduit and low voltage wiring And then the next day is a review of a steam controller. Like we're all over the place and I have I have noticed algorithmically, they just don't know what to do with us compared to a channel that is more predictable? likeike even within the tech niche, there's other channels that are more able in terms of their tone from one video to the next and I love to be able to just say, hey This is for people that are super into Biohacking or You know, this is for people who are really into, you know, enterprise hardware, you know whatever, right But it can't. Yeah. there's breaking anthropic news, by the way, that we should probably acknowledge because Chin is it'sloading I'm working on that better day right now. Basically they issued a statement Um The U. S. government shut them down. Statement on the US. government directive to suspend access to Fable five and Mhos five Um, Yeah Citing national security authorities, the U. S. government has issued an export control directive to suspend all access to Fable five and Mythos five by any foreign national, even those inside the United States including Anthropic employees H And the a So feels like to ensure compliance They have just Turned fable five and mythos five off for everyone This Dan just happen Dan pointed this out in full point chat, but this is probably the best marketing anyone on the entire planet could have asked for. But yeah I actually think this might be Hilariously The whole marketing angle might not be the goal that the U.S government wanted because I suspect they are still in a bit of a tiff over when anthropics stood up to them a little while ago Um, and with with the IPOs coming soon, I suspect this might have been and attempts to hold them back actually. But I think just like last time This is ultimately going to be just like an insane Marketing move promoting the absolute heck out of anthropic Um, the including internal employees thing is is wild. We we had u Conrad, the guy who makes LTT store in regards to development U wasas in Chat earlier saying he used Fable five personally. U and so I don't I don't want to misquote. I don't know exactly what he said, but he said very positive things about it. Very interesting. honestly Um The frontier models that are coming up right now are pretty nuts Yeah. Mery squared in Fopplint chat said not me currently using Fable five to rewrite a whole platform Um Wild. Wild, Wild, wild And before U. S. citizens start reselling their access to Fable five to foreign nationals. Yeah If there was if only there was some technology that could make it so that you could appear as though you were in a different region than you were. If only there was some way to pay for things with a, you know, US bank issued payment method. it f't like this I don't know how they could possibly hope to to enforce this once they actually do re enable Fable five Yeah, that's what I was going to say is like I don't think it's going to be as simple as a VPN which know why they actually shut it down. No, but you will but you'll need but it won't someone will overcome it. This ain't going to be impossible to overcome no matter what. But at the very least, I suspect it's going to be people individually reselling API ke usage. somehow Wild Wild, wild, wild. Verified US ID requirements incoming. Mbe. Yeah. Okay. I'm not gonna say who said this. Somebody said I got a notice on a litigation hold on all communications about anthropic ADOD employee I mean I think you mean DOW U, But yeah, for now DOD I've heard I've heard the Department of War thing isn't official They just call it that? No, but it like went looking like probably official today. or yesterday or something Yeah Got it, gotot it got it gotot it Um I don't know what's going on with that, but I thought that was kind of funny to be approved by Congress. okay? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, wild situation, abbsolutely wild situation. I think like, I don't know if we've talked about it on WN show or not, but but Pewdiepie's video on Odysseus Yeah It's it's You know, we've talked about PewDiePie a few times over the years on Wencho. This is not one of the ways that I expected to be talking about Pewdie Pie, but he has been doing incredible things when it comes to locally hosted AI and eentic stuff. and his video on Odysseus uh, his his project which she has open sourced U has three million views now And you know, we talked about this last show, but Uh, you know, local models are not are not necessarily brrush and shoulders with these frontier models. No, but they're very right now. But they are very useful. and I really think the in the same way that with the whole operating system debate right now, my solution is to very happily just dual boot on both of my systems. I'm dual booting on my laptop, I'm dual booting on my desktop, and I'm very happy. I think the like prime solution For me at least, is going to be using both Um saving your API costs on something big and heavy and powerful, like Fable five or any other like crazy frontier model because you know, in two weeks it'll probably be something else that's in the lead. And then for most of your Honestly, probably most of your work, but it really depends on who you are and what you're doing. You can use local models in order to just like you're just dumbllit like what the what's the weather going to be tomorrow just to interact with, you know, your DIY Google home that doesn't actually communicate with Google servers Like that that cute little robot thing that Nick Haris from the lab had in his AMD ultimate tech upgrade. Paying for tokens to run something like that to turn your lights on and off is would be crazy And there's no need to. Yeahah, you just don't need to because a local model can handle the voice to text, can handle the natural language interaction just fine today I mean, there was that guy in chat who said they were they were using able to rewrite an entire system and it's like okay. Yeah. you're not doing that on your RTX thirty seventy yeah, okay sure. You can do quite a bit with local models and it might do pretty well. Aomic says Quin three point six is phenomenal And that happens to be that was actually one of the first things that Nick Harris asked when we were meeting with NVidia at Computex was Okay Neat imppressive demo what are you guys using? And Quen three point six came up like immediately. It seems like it's just basasically beloved right now for anyone who wants to run local AI Yeah, it's there's a lot of different things. If you're if you're scared of running stuff, again, I would highly recommend watching the Pewie Pie video but he talks about a part of the Odysseus system called Cookbook where it helps inform you based on your system hardware, what you can run So if you're like, what the heck is what the heck is a quin Um it can kind of handle those portions for you or at least majorly simplify it. But yeah, the local hosting stuff is was incredibly interesting and is now takingen a massive leap forward in how interesting it is and the frontier models keep being mind bogglingly insane. and it's it's the time for terrible things to happen. Anyways Topic move on Oh, no, it's time for us to do our creator warehouse announcements This week, we are launching a pretty fun one I am legitimately super excited about this one. Okaykay, hold on, hold on. It's time to hopefully not have a classic Wanho nip slip here Yeah Oh, shoot, I still have my micon Okay, first up. is the Map of Siberia T shirt It is a full and illustrated fantasy map where Someone replaced all the kingdoms with things like The great fire wall Isle of Wan and the cryptocurrency C Get it cryptoc currency Pretty good. Hold on, hold on. I'm going to go to the to the linus cam. This is got to be Oh man, you guys can't. Okaykay, you know what? I'm just gonna to have to I'm just going to have to pull it up on the site. Um, Yeah, I'll bring it up on the sayite. I'll bring it up on the sayite I have to give Lisa from the CW team, like the vast majority of the credit on this one, this she spearheaded this and just Oh I don't know when it happened. by She just like figured out. Our vibe as a company our audience At some point pirate Bay And it culminated or maybe she's still cooking Maybe she maybe she hasn't reached the peak yet. but oh my God, the leg access point You have gotta be kidding me. That is the funniest shit Control plus C is really good. I like that one. Yeah poisoned cash. eighty Network bridge Of course, this had to be there This is this is This is quite informed actually. Right The bits. That's cool. The bites I asked her, I was like do the bites have exactly eight times the landmass of the bits? And she was like, don't overthink it. I'm like, okay, all right fair enough Lisa. All right, all right hold on a second. I got it the data twenty sevenzero thirty two Oh, interesting Interesting. D't don't, don't worry about it. donon't worry about it Um Absolutely Absolutely incredible design, super cool Are these up right now Yeah I didn't see a link in the dark. Map of Siberia. Oh I see there it is. T shirt available now in regular and tall So make sure you guys are getting in there. Oh, we don't have a lot of tall units in the u The XLs, double XceLs and triple XLs at least on the global site. and Great phhoto shoot as always, this has to be t in There's no way this isn't tying It's time in No, it's Dan. That's me Did you wantin? Okay this one's t in. The ones outside are tin in yeah. Okay Amazing. I know he's into that stuff. I didn't know you were you borrow his stuff It was actually somebody else's stuff. Oh really. There was some other guy who lent us a set of armor. Oh, that's super cool He what's like am I getting this correctly? The olive one has the large map on the front, but the black one has the Olive on the front, the large map on the back. Yeah, so we couldn't decide We couldn't decide whether to do olive or black or the here, if I switch over to the black, you'll see this one has the map on the back And then it has the u the clloud Kingdom on the front So we kind of tried both and we'll kind of see what people are more into I'm not going to spoil anything by saying who thoughtought in which way. But they're they're both really cool designs and I'm so interested how the sales of this go. I'm so interested because I've always personersally Like I think this shirt is wicked. I'm going to try if there isn't one sitting there for me already, I'm going to try to get the black one and exxle tall, but U The reason why I'm going to get the black one is because I always love the u The small logo over the heart with Is that Is that my size? Sorry, it's a medium Darn it I always really like the small logo over the heart and then the big thing on the back of the shirt. Yeah That's always my favorite shirt design. But I'm wondering like . Is that is that just a me thing or is that No, it's a lot of people thing, but we also felt that the way that this design doesn't pop as like, okay here No, I agree That is a good point. Like this is a lot. to wear on the front This is actually not as much No, I agree. It's very interesting. Yeah. And it's also not like a huge logo Um If it was a massive like your entire torso Linus Tch Tips logo. Yeah, that would It probably kind of suck But instead it's like a cool design full of fun little Easter eggs and stuff. like get's And there's the, you know, there's the shirt that must not be named that doesn't exist anymore U Which one that had a big logo on the front. Sleep is for pies. No. It was released very recently and then taken away Oh, o, that one Yeah That had a big log on the front and that looked really sick as well. So like it's obviously not a hard and fast rule. Yeah. I am interested because just like you said, on the olive one It does it kind of works U Well, one that I do have an EXcel tll here for you is this one was our best That also works. This was our best selling t shirt in a long time Um So it's really not a hard and fast rule. It's just like a generalization that I prefer that setup But like I wouldn't that pirate one. If you just had a little parrot, it's not showing up any camera. If you just had a little parrot here. Yeah, and then the back said that, I don't think that would be better. No, I don't think that one would quite work. So this is like kind of depends. We've been kind of trying to find our stride Um on like the t shirt designs over the last little while Um, like I think we had u I don't want to get too deep into like sort of the the internal stuff But you guys might have noticed that whether it's sourcing the blanks or whether it's having designs ready or whether it's having both of those things at the same time. we haven't really focused on t shirts for like ple of years at this point, whereereas it used to be that like every other freakaking wan show we were announcing another t shirt and t shirts were like a big part of LTT store And then for a long time, they basically haven't been But I think Over this last couple, like I obviously haven't seen any sales figures for this one yet, but I love it. The design team freaking loves it. like we love it. so we're really confident in it. But as you can see, we're still kind of mixing it up in terms of, okay, do we do little thing on the front Big thing on the back, big thing on the front. like what's the, you know, what's our what's our current meta going to be? So we're going we're going to let you guys ultimately decide that It's very interesting. It's I'm specifically interested in the sales of this one with my little I like the small logo thing U because I think this one is a strong example of the Big image on the front being cool No So it's it's like a good test Um Both are cool. And but wait, there's more Where is it there's also our new arrivals could probably stand to be cleaned out a little bit. What A deskpad is that what you're talking about Yeah. so there's also a deskpad. How fun is that available in three different sizes. nine hundred mil by four hundred mil, three hundred mil or six hundred mil depending on your preference all the same price as you've come to expect from LTT store, hello from LTT store It also looks extremely striking, great quality printing Got this here Map of Siberia Dkpad Lu is there. Oh, yeah, there you go Freakaking awesome. And of course Nice high quality desk pad, natural rubber stitch etches, et cetera eta stitch edches, stitched edges, what you would expect from U M, they've been having way too much fun at these photo shoots lately And that's a good thing M of flat Oh really Unless it's not on there. I didn't see that one Sorry, Dan, I didn't see it Anyway, those are our new launches for this week and you can check them out at lMg.gg slash Siberia which is spelled like cyber And then I A U it's a perfect time to pick one up because we're alive, which means that you can send a comm A We might need to change the name again. Well, whatever. For now they're called checkout messages Cs. and the way that they work is all you gott to do is fire up LTT store, add something that catches your eye to your cart Boooo boop, view your cart and in the checkout, you can type up a message. It'll go to producer Dan There he is, who will respond to it or just like pop it up on the stream if it's just like a shout out for someone, or he will curate it for me and Luke to respond to. Dan, do you want to hit us with a couple of coms? Sure thing Line us your fortieth levels coming up Do you plan on celebrating it in a special way? How about writing a biography or even an autobiography? I'd read a success story Also more non black t shirts please U I'm flattered, but I and not planning to write an autobiography. I started making notes like a couple times for something like that. And then I just have not had the time to do it slash Oh. Oh I don't, maybe maybe I've just been maybe I've just not thought about it the right way. because I was really surprised when I found out that someone as private as Lyinis Torvoldds had written an autobiography And when I asked him about it, he basically was just like, well, try anything once including write an autobiography, apparently Be he's a really modest guy and that didn't really he's a really modest, really private guy. and that didn't really align with write an autobiography The writer actually talks about this in the autobiography, or I guess it's not really an autobiography, but it's like 'sot a lot of autobiographical elements but also a lot of observations from the author. It's kind of like a mishmash of both And the writer actually talks about the process by which he convinced Torvolds to do it So maybe I don't know, mayaybe I just haven't heard the right pitch from a ghost wrrit. I also just don't think I'd be comfortable with a ghostwriter writing it. I feel like I should write my own thing. I literally peopleople ask me like, what do you do? and more than anything else? I think more than a host I think my greatest contribution to LTT is writing. I don't think people realize How much of What is done at Linus Media Group has been touched at some point by my pen. Um Ns not all of it. It's all of it It's not every single mistake. It's all Linus. Thank you for that. E if it's just a lab's article that doesn't have him credited, if there's a mistake, it was Linus. If there's not a mistake, it was someone else All right. Anyways, didid I answer the question? I don't remember, and I'm having a hard time logging into the dashboard No, I think that's probably good enough. All right, clool, good chs. Hey, Do, what's the most recent book you've read or are currently reading Rright H I remember I read Breakfast with Maori a little while ago, but that was a while ago I think I read something more recently than that I'mking here. I've reverted to my teenage state and I've been I've been reading old Fx trrot collections during my midnight snack breakfast cereal lately. So that's been that's been fun. I love Fox Tot I actually had no idea he still publishes Sunday strips online Shadow Billamend Oh. No way to go for my recent I will find it. give me a second. He's looking up Dan in the meantime Read any good books lately I've still got Most of the prints to finish off I read it back Ohge and it was like It was brutal and it's still brutal. rememinds me a lot of the world, right? Have you, haveave you read it Linus? No, I haven't. you can have my other copy if you want. It's Bad is hard hard to read Huh, what a what a sales pitch It should be written, I think by a lot of people. Okay, that's a better pitch. You should lead. The prrince is good Holy crap. You know what? Alanus, I can give you something fun. Oh, there it is. Tough and competent by Eugene F. Pranz. Tough and competent Is that is that your autobiography No, but thank you. U Yeah, Gene Krz was the second chief flight director for NASA. He looks tough and competent Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I haven't actually started it, but I have it and I'm excited. That's the first step. One small step for Luke's reading list Yeah. But okay, this is or okay, I guess, is that that question done I show you something. And I keep trying to jump to it and then realizing that I'm skipping the topic we're currently on. Sorry. this is not an ad. I don't know if these guys have ever sponsored us or not, so my b, if they have, I' whatever. and I can't send you a link to this super easily, but if you just want to Google it, you've probably already seen it. eight but do ultimate three mode controller Xbox. they have a eight but do Xbox controller that is translucent green. Have you seen this Uh I thought you would like it. That three mode. Oh nice That looks sick Yeah. It's really interesting. There's a bunch of I don't know if everyone just had the same thought at the same time or what, but there's a bunch of translucent products coming out. You can see in the background there, they have a keyboard, they have an eighty five percent keyboard and a separate ten key, which I think is super cool. Those buttons tend to come with their keyboard. So I'm assuming that's the case here as well. And then they also have the mouse, then they also have the Xbox controller It's a sick lineup of hardware actually. That amazing. Officially looks expert awesome ed by Apple. Man, ABiddo has just been I believe they' Hall effect joysticks or something I lost the Hall effect joysticks. Yep Yeah And the triggers are all effect linear Oh nice. Okaykay. the triggers, I wasn't sure, but I was trying to find that. cool. Yeah. And there's a switch on the back to switch which kind of device you're connecting it to and stuff. This looks wicked Um I just I don't know. I'm just so stoked on translucent products coming out U I think it's awesome. I love I'm so happy that it seems like we're exiting an era of everything just being either all black or all white. I'm so happy that some color is entering products again and that translucent and seeing the interesting things inside the product is becoming a thing again, I just think it's so sick. Oh dude. I u okay I had a similar experience today I was working on the LTT for Sony sent over their one hundred and fifteen inch true RGB TV. So it's It's over in theater room right now I had to leave for WN show. so I didn't actually get to seeee it fire up and watch content on it. I have to do that on Monday. I have to wait the whole weekend for. Anyway, that's not the point. The point is I was looking at the remote And it's a black remote And I was like, off course, it's a black gp No, wait. Tanslucent. It had No, no, it doesn't. It has it had little A like teal like flex in the plastic Like, do you remember our like our RGB shirts how they had those little like like Like those little color tufts in them Yeah, was it was all one color, but it was kind of like that. L it just had little color flex in it. I was like How fun is that And how hard was that, you know to bring back a little bit of color in our lives. just I thought it was really cool. I thought it was a nice little touch. Yeah, I think that might actually be a double benefit because I believe that's often an appearance that comes from recycled plastic Yeah. So it could be a recycled plastic. It looks great No, I think it looks fantastic. I think it looks fantastic. Also, I didn't know this was a thing, but just to be you know fair, and I'm doing a terrible job of tracking names today, by East onene orast Eastone posted in Flopplain chat. Xbox is also releasing their own transrlucent green Xbox controller. If you look up the Xbox twenty fifth anniversary, they have an Xbox wireless controller X twenty five special edition, and it's a translucent green Xbox controller I'm a little confused about some of the messaging that I hear coming out of Xbox right now. Like on the one hand, they need to rejuvenate their hardware business, but then on the other hand, they're saying things like How many Xboxes they sell is gated by like production capacity, not by like demand I just I'm having a really hard time reconciling that. I'm also I am also recognizing that A lot of Xbox fans are rooting for exclusives But I can't help but feel like If they go full exclusive and they don't come to PC, that we are Like we're sitting here demanding reverse progress that is actually regression Um As someone who has never bought an Xbox and who probably will never bother to game on an Xbox Making games not available for me to purchase on PC is something that I'm going to have a hard time rooting for. Xbox install base being as it is Games being exclusive might just mean their death Yeah But I also understand that like there's It's a chicken and egg problem because you're not going to get an install base unless you give people a reason to buy the console and it sure as heck isn't going to be the Xbox first party controller Like don't feel like it's going to be gears six either. or whatever I mean, you weren't really like a gears kid, though, right reallyally, but I feel like ooh, is this hot? is this here comes here comes h. I feel like gearars always played Second fiddle the Halo. Well, yeah, I don't think that's a hot take at all, sir And I don't feel like either series is hot right now So what Halo infinite the second and Gear six. Like I don't know U whatever whatever that thing they're doing is with Uh The first halo that they're recreating remaster new missions. So yeah. So I was like that's gonna to sell consoles either. I was chatting with Ploof about it, actually right before the show and he was like super bearish on it and then just saw the latest updates and he was like, yeah, I'm psyched now I haven't actually I haven't seen it, but apparently it looks great Like visually, But then also, didn't they have one of the old bungee guys come out and pretty much say like, yeah It looks great, but it doesn't look like Halo comombat evolved. So And I'm paraphrasing. I'm basically an AI right now. Disclaimer what I said might not be attributable to anyone. I'm basically an AI right now is a hilarious line The three new missions is interesting en stuff. I don't trust me, bro All I'm saying I'm saying it doesn't look interesting. All I'm saying is I don't know if it's a console seller Um, I don't know what Microsoft has right now. that would be a console seller People really like four' horizon six. Yeah. I dropp to Japan, which has been a location that people have been looking for in Forz Herizon for a long time. So they just dropped their like ace up their sleeve before it could be an exclusive. I just spent, you know Days driving switchbacks in Taiwan, they could do one in Taiwan, but I don't think that's going to be as big of a draw as Japan is for car culture, obviously I don't know. I don't know what game Microsoft has up their sleeve. Oh h h. Yeah I do Okay. I mean, if some new Xbox launches And soon after the launch, Elder Scroll six comes out and it's exclusive to consoles That'll move some consoles. That'll move some conses. Well, assuming it's not a compleplete dumpster fire I think it'll still move some consoles honestly. Just a question of how many, sir? Yeah, totally. Yeah, exactly Um, C just like that. Yeah, sorry. That's a good point, but sorry. Happy eighth birthday to the trailer of ES six. I didnidn't believe that trailer for so long. I thought it was fake. I thought it was a fan edit. I didn't watch that game show, whatever one it was announced in. So when I saw it go on YouTube, I legitimately thought it was just like a fan edit and didn't believe it for so long. And then people were talking about it like I think years later, and I was like, wait, that was real? Oh it was wild. I can't believe I still can't believe they did that Um Yeah. I I don't think o man I amm kind of strongly of the opinion that' been it's been downhill since Morrowind U, but the peak of Morwind was so high that the slope was still really, really good Um, But like fallout for Even compared to Skyrim even compared to Olivion, I think was like a continual down Fall of four was still really fun. It was a great game, but it felt like the worst one out of those. I feel like as someone who came into the series on obblivion, It's t and then tried to play Morrowind because oblivion was so great I wanted more. You can't go back. You have to look at Morowind a f capsule of when it was released. Sure not I'm not suggesting you go back and play it now, but when it was released, Morrowind was an insane game. Like there was There was nothing like it. it was wild. And the way that I'm describing this like downward slope is basically like Like the weapon systems were reduced for oblivion.d you might be surprised having played obblivion, but the magic system was reduced for oblivion. Things just got simpler and simpler and simpler. Oblivion was a fantastic game. think I think in a lot of respects, you can say it was better than Morwind. Um Yeah, under understanding the climate in which Morowind released I still think moreorin's better if that makes sense Um Anyways. and Skyrim was a like massive simplification of things as well Um I don't know. I can understand people might not agree with that argument, but I do think Especially beyond Skyrim. Fallout for And Fall out seventy six, I think is what it's called. And Starfield and some of the mobile games that they did and things like that It's been I don't know. I still don't think Eldestcirl six and I talked big game about how I thought Starfield was going to be great. So hey, maybe you're going to be terribly wrong again. I still don't think Can you still call yourself a Bethesda fan H. Do you can you be fully rational and logical about Bethesda or where you still have naive hope in spite of all evidence from the last T years because I think that's the line, right is is tough though because like I did enjoy Fallout four Um I thought it was A lot weaker than New Vegas and I thought it was weaker than three. Okay. again. So note that I said ten years. long. Luke, I said ten years. T try to remember Fllow four came out eleven years ago Jesus Yes, it did. Actually ten and a half years. No I didn't shut up Holy crap, that sorry. I just broke him. I broke him down. I'm sorry You wantan to know something funny? You know I have like taken a break from streaming for a long time I went through my most recent streaming assets folder It's all foull out for stuff. My taking a break has been a decade Oh my God Oh my God, He's dying d. Holy crap U Okay, U W Oh man, should I break him again How old is Morrowind? know the? Oblivion was twenty years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because Xress three hundred sixty likeike I knew that one for some reason the gap between O Blivion and Fallout four seem so much bigger than in Fallout for now. I don't know why that's true, but it feels like it Okay, so the question of the last ten years thing is tough Yeah. it's tough in it even if we look Like locally, R right? If we look at Linus Med your group Like Linus Media Group looking Five years back is so much different in what we're doing, who works here. Yeah our capabilities are, all that so different. Go back, go back seven years completely different thing So it's okay, it's been an incredibly long time since Skyrim, but the only mainline game that they've released in that time dont I don't necessarily think I believe seventy six is. Fair to say donon't know This was meant to be like kind of a yes or no answer, Luke Yeah, sorry. arere you still at the end of thister Well, what I think I'm saying is I can't conclusively say either way because they haven't really released anything in the series that I liked in that period of time. They haven't released a mainline followout game. they haven't released a mainline Elder Scrolls game. Th are the two games that made me love Bethesda. so I don't think I can say I I'm gonna still naively hold out hope though. Okay, then it sounds like you can still be at least a little bit of a fan 'causeuse if you can hold I hope for something, I think. I am That's my views and buying ES six day one guarantees. Okay. because I have to experience it. 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Yeah, let's do this one. We were talking about AI stuff before we did the jump off topics section, so we'll go back to it for some reason U New York state could Ban Data center development. New York State has put a temporary hold on any further data center development. Governor Kathy So will have the final say and must decide before December if the state will enact a permanent ban on all data centers that demand twenty megawatts or more of power. As a quote, this is one of the first times that we're really drawing a line in the sand and saying that as a state legislature We have the responsibility to make sure New Yorkers are in the driver's seat U said New York Senator Kristin Gonzalez. and then again to quote, Big tech has been used has been used to writing their own rules or not having rules that they have to play by which is y I being fair enough Um I feel like yeah, that's interesting. I wonder what the Just for context, a twenty megawatt data center would be approximately one hundred and thirty three space X AI satellite data centers Let's throw that out there That is pretty fun for context actually. In case anyone was wondering, Why someome people are pushing back on the idea of AI satellite data centers. Um, It would take one hundred and thirty three of those to build something that's big enough that the state of New York It wants to ban it B. Not the orbit of New York. Yeah Interesting. I'm trying to Rack my brain. What are the primary complaints about data centers being near you? There's noise obviously, there's water that it's pulling out. Noise u Noise I guess. someome people have mentioned the really high pitch noise as well. Y. ugly.. I'm sure there's like ecological destruction Cost So that's related to the power, but also power cost thing. The power cost thing feels solvable by making the power for the data center. I think part of it too is like the economic argument for data centers is all the jobs that they create, but that's only while they're building them Once they're they don't have much afterwards. Modern data centers require very little in the way of personnel compared to why they are being constructed A done totally So it's one of those things where when they talk about all the jobs that like AI infrastructure is creating, it's like, yeah, as long as we're chasing infinite growth, then it will, you know continue to support those jobs, but the second that There'ser cutback or bubble burst or the buildout is stalled then they kind of go away And it's worth noting actually. I think there's It's man, it's it's kind of funny to Kind of I don't know. I don't have I don't think I've taken a strong position either way on the building out of data centers and it's really it's really interesting to see both the good points that both sides of this issue make And also the somewhat seemingly flawed points that both sides make there's a lot of talk about the water consumption of data centers. Um, and during construction, that is that is like super true They use a ton of water U But a big part of that is that it takes a ton of water to like make concrete construction Um Back when back when I toured Intel's Fab, they were they were showing me the site where they were they were building like an extension to the fab. and they literally like the scale of these kinds of projects, they had built their own concrete production facility own sate. so that they could so they could mix and then logistically move around the concrete much more efficiently. And like people don't necessarily recognize like how much water. consumes, but once it's built, as long as they're not using evaporative cooling, which from my understanding is kindind of going out of fashion understanding a lot of these data centers are using evaporative cooling The newer stuff seems to be getting away from it though. And so If they're not using evaporative cooling, then their ongoing water consumption is actually pretty low Um Yeah, SFilist says, building a concrete production facility is common in a lot of construction. Yeah, anyytime you're doing a large scale project. It's like, Gee, I don't know. shouldhould I truck the concrete from there to here Um, in like cement mixers or should I just make everything here out of the raw materials Jay Locke said nobody would have an issue with the power issues, water consumption, even noise, et cetera. Data centers are being used to solve medical mysteries, world hunger, major infrastructure, engineering problems, etceter. rather than for a few billionaires to spy on us and getting even more rich. You are forgetting Funny AI cat videos though. Yeah And also forgetting that a lot of people are using it to do legitimately useful things. Yeah includluding unfortunately, Palanter. Yeah Yeah. We talked about that early in the show. Palanter, classic stop clock is right twice a day. Palanteer did something good but also scary because it's Palenter. Porto says all is forgive Pul is forgiven, cute cats I don't know, man. it's always interesting for me to get boots on the real ground you know, like talk to People who are outside of my bubble and especially don't take this the wrong way. W show viewers. L are you guys are like dialed. you're the LTT core, right? U And it's always interesting for me to go outside of that bubble and talk to people about this stuff. I was playing Badminton inawan Stop me if I told this story last week on Wanh Um, and I was just chatting with u with one of the one of the players at at the club and u He comes up to me his English is pretty good. and we've chated a couple times over the years because I come back every year. So people tend to kind of they're going, o yeah, that white guy, right? Yeah yeah, hi, it's me. Um, but At some point, he kind of put two and two together and he started like watching the channel. So now when I showed up, he's like, oh, you know, hey Linus and he asked me. He's like, what are your thoughts on AI? And I'm like, well, that's a very broad question, u, you know I think we're both here to play Badminton, not talk about this for the next three hours, but U I'm going to uno reverse this What do you think about AI And he kind of goes, oh, well, like Again, that's a very broad question. What specifically do you mean? And I'm like, well, like what do you do for work? You know What do what do you use it for? What does your company use it for? you know, like someomeone boots on the ground just out there living their life Working, eating, sleeping, playing Badminton U I wanted to hear his perspective and obviously this is a sample size of One His response was really interesting to me. He's like, well, I work in like data compliance. and I kind of go, oh, okay, you know, like what does that mean exactly? He's like, well, we provide services for things like law offices and medical clinics and things like that. I'm like, okay, yeah, that gives me a pretty good idea of what you guys are up to And u I'm like, okay, so like, how would you say that know AI has changed the way that you guys operate? And he's like, well, we have about the same headcount as we used to. But our marketing department is completely gone. Um, We deploy tons of code to production that is overseen U, but very much generated code It has made us wildly more productive So we have about the same headcount that we did before we started using it, but our revenue and productivity is like massively up And where where I kind of like I wanted to poke and prod at that a little bit, right? And I was like, okay, you know, what does this mean for the maintainedility measuring that too off these projects? And like so, you know, o yeah, how do you measure that? Well, you measure it in revenue. You measure it in completed projects. Apparently, it's like.'s that's reasonable. Yeah. And and in terms of like like maintenance, he goes, you know, well, we're real software engineers. So like You know, we can do that Um, using this to like turbo charge our productivity and you know completely just eliminate entire departments has been has been something that has been very I'm going to use finger quotes here. suuccessful. for them and That perspective was, like I said before, it was a sample size of one. Right? So let's not treat it as anything deeper than what it is When I hear people say. and this is a really common sentiment that shows up in our comment section in our chat, wherever, that nobody wants this I kind of go, okay, but That's not actually true and I think we could argue all day about, you know where on the spectrum The people who want it and appreciated it and enjoy it and use it and are benefiting from it versus the people who adamantly oppose it and won't touch it. L we could kind of we can argue all day about sort of where that split is, right Um But what is objectively not true is that either everyone is benefiting from it and they need to just get on board. That's not true or Nobody wants this. it's it's pure it's purely negative and nobody could benefit. that's also not true And so I just u I'm still taking a very Wait and see. approach Um We use it for some things internally. We've experimented a little bit more with using it externally, Um I think that there's absolutely a value to specifically calling out when something is not AI like this This mouse pad would have functionally No artistic value to me if a human hadn't drawn it That doesn't mean it would be worthless. I think that someone probably would enjoy an AI generated deskpad if it was like, you know, cool and they just liked it. they vibed with it But For me, like this has an artistic value that is This is hard to quantify. How do you quantify that, Luke? Can you quantify it And how do you properly Pve it. U Oh, that's think this is this is We've talked about this before. Like how the cs industry and like Etsy is gonna have to move to like selling the live stream of you creating the art, you know And then how do you prove that the live stream is AI generated as well? then that that whole series gets gets really weird, but like something something I'm kind of running into is there was a game recently that said I don't know. I think I think think they said that they're using AI stuff for ideation, but they're not going to have it in their finished game. and then they had some manan, this isn't a topic in the dark. We're trying to go off top my head. They had some like playable demo and people found AI assets in the playable demo And the company is basically like, oh, like that I wasn't supposed to be there. We didn't like realize that was there. We're going to try to figure what happened or whatever. I think Employers aren't going to be able to even know. if their employees are really using it or not. I wouldn't know if Dan was an AI right now No response didn't move at all. Yeah. it would be pretty hard to tell. Actually, I think an AI might have had less latency on it, so I think he's probably a human I'm not an AI linus. That's actually a pretty damn good A voice Now you gott to do the like you're out of. You can't ask me to do that. I can't I can't confirm or deny. a small language model but but yeah, it's like even if it's just for ideation, you can't necessarily control it. someomeone Maybe they're on their lunch break and they're stuck on an issue and they want to look good for their boss. so they U AI brainstorm some junk on their phone. likeike you can't u And it's funny, even even very anti AI people are It's really interesting to watch the conversations about it because like we've experimented with using a little bit of AI generated stuff in our thumbnails recently. I've seen that. This one was was sort of universally disliked for being AI AI core, except that I actually this is an actual photo of me sitting on that manhole cover I actually don't know what Sam did with these with with the the wires. Those weren't there. I'm not sure if he generated them or if he like put some other asset in there sign wasn't there either. But but What's funny is as much as people hated those wires One personers, as far as I can tell One person Noticed this This has been up for a month. That's not me I noticed that. Then two people did. My not just trying to like be like, M. Yeah, that's fine. My own wife, I asked her about this thumbnail And without prompting her, without like leading her She basically just started talking about, oh, yeah, I think it's, you know the monitor is cool or you know, whatever but didn't notice that I only have one earring in my left ear Um There's a couple I didn't notice I didn't have braces There's a couple of little problems with your eyes. I don't know what it is, but there's something going on with your eyes that tells me something's off. Sammy Sammy noticed it and was like, Hey, what's up with this? And I basically was like, yeah, it was an interesting It was an interesting experiment. A human still worked on it So do you want to see something The AI linus is AI, but actually and the cardboard is AI, but I believe the monitor Um was Sam's work. and then the background is Sam's work U So a human still like composited everything But that's not That's not me. And very, very few people noticed which I thought was really interesting. that's it was I had a long conversation with Sammy about it because he's like, look, I Like, is this our direction? Are we just going to stop taking pictures of you and just generate you. I'm like, No. E video that we've done since then a real is a real picture of me for better or for worse, including, this was another one. that people were really upset about because A Gemini watermark was on the original version of it because that PC case was added with AI But that was the only thing AI about it. That is otherwise just a photograph of me in the PC buildild corner. So it was just the case that was thrown on there So What's funny is like The things that people thought were AI about this were not the things necessarily that were actually AI about it The watermark made some people pretty upset, but then we had one where it was literally completely AI generated linus and almost nobody noticed because the watermark wasn't there What's funny about that one is I've probably just seen your freaking face too much, so I recognized it. but Bea I didn't actually I didn't clue into it based on the cardboard sign or the Linux logo or anything else It was just, I looked at your eyes and my brain was like, they're not quite the right color So was that it? I don't even know what it was. J something in my head was like G That's something's wrong. It's like not him Um And I don't know if the I wasn't necessarily aware if maybe the editors were just trying to like do touch upps and win a little bit too far or something like that But but for me, my brain was like, yeah, it looks like so rememinds me of AI generated. So that's a fun thing. I've actually had that conversation with our thumbnail artists because I found that some of our real thumbnails actually do look a little bit AI This one's not. this is a real picture but it has the same eye lightenning that might trigger the same reflex of response from you as the eyes in the other one. if I had to know can you like screenshot one of these And then scroll to the other one so we can have both on screen at the same time. I think we can just like the. That one doesn't make me think That it's off. like I don't know what it is. There's there's something about the eyes in that AI one that I thought this one looked really AIE personersally I thought like the the crayon in your hand gives me or whatever that is the marker in your hand. gives me vibes similar to the the Cardboard on fire thing. That might have made me think something was going on there, but You want to see something on the other end of the spectrum here real quick Cure ye. A contontact creator I've been enjoying watching for quite a while now as some like real solid secondcond monitor content Um but bring it up on YouTube. No I don't think that's a dig. I think that's perf. Um, and I'llll I'll I'll, you know I'll lock in for interesting segments, but look at Gotham chess And look at his thumbils and show this on screen Okay, so this is comple fully embraced. Click on the video tab. The AI Oh my Godd U And It feels like there I don't know what it is because it's been really interesting to me since he started doing this. Um, actually checking the comments and seeing what the sentiment on it is Um You guys usually second monitor content for me? I don't take that as a dig. Wan show is like supposed to be second monitor content. like that's This crazy. sorry Alex Badminton Academy who I did a collab with a little while ago just uploaded a collab with teech Joice That's cool. Oh nice That is cool. Anyway, he's using AIAF And he's clearly using oh, this guy is Yeah Oh interesting. this was another example that I wanted to show, but Here we go. Interesting, H here we go I thought it might have been That doesn't even necess that just looks like he might have done like weird head enlargement or something.'t necessarily immediately scream out Hee to me. The Gotham justess one, the commenters seem to be having a lot of fun with it U Like I can pretty much guarantee you if you go to the Gotham Chess video of him as a sumo wrestler and check the comments that there will be comments like talalking about the thumbnail, but in a either neutral but surprised way or in a like supportive this has been kind of fun his like fray into crazy A thumbnails way. Here's another completely generated linus That is not my racket. Those are not my shoes. I was your shoes Your head shape is wrong. Yeah. So' it's the same here. This is completely generated. Um, yeah So some people are just leaning right into it and no one cares slash it's neutral. And then others are using it a little bit and facing a bunch of backlash. I saw J's two cents was getting lit up on Twitter about using AI on something. actually haven't looked at his thumbnails recently. The thing that I'm stuck on is I can't tell if it's a creator difference, an audience difference, or a style difference. with Gotham Chess, there's no real question It doesn't seem like he's trying to get away. with using AI to generate his thumbnails playing with it very openly. It's very obvious. he's not trying to hide it Um, It's it's it's kind of fun U and then the audience seems to be vibing with it. It seems to me And I I am jumping to conclusions here. I don't have a lot of evidence for this, but if I had to wager right now It seems to me Like the thing that's bothering people is when it seems like I don't know, T normal Like when they're trying to like in the uncanny Valle I mean, I guess yeah. It's pretty well documented. Unease. Yeah, yeah Yeah, it's interesting. It's u see seeing where the communities drawing the line because there's clearly creators that people are fine with it S u Es John Trombli says, I think it's community difference. I was talking to a VTuber a few weeks ago and she said, you basically get excommunicated if you use AI for anything which is interesting because I could see that being a space where it would be used a lot I don to. in some period of time from now, when that when that sentiment when someone is the first one to use it a bunch and and be successful anyway Um It's it's such an interesting realm Oh, someone says already happened. Look up VidL nine hundred eighty seven Are they just like AIAF I don't even know what I'm looking at here ED AL it looks like? Yeah, I can't I can't tell what this is Neurosama, is that it I have no idea. Yeah. I don't think I'm going to be able to Figure this out Okay Yeah, I think the AIV tuber. Okaykay, yeah I I this is a this is a deeper rabbit hole than I think I'm going to dive into live on when so Thank you for flagging that for me, though Why don't we jump into another topic here? I don't even remember how we got on the subject Oh yeah, then New York state could ban data center development. All right, cool. Hey. Here's a cool thing that some YouTuber slash this did Zerov put up an incredible Yeah incredible video, interviewing a bunch of experts and diving into, I'm not going to play the video because you guys need to go watch it. It's forty five minutes, but it is a It is a Hard and fast. forty five minutes I can give you guys some of the someome of the top level details, but's worth watching just so you can dive right into it Um It's an amazing investigation into Finnished startup Donut lab who made waves at CES twenty twenty six, claiming to have a revolutionary solid state sodium ion battery with four hundred watt hours per kilogram of energy density, a one hundred thousand cycle life and five minute charging. So's put that in context four hundred watt hours per kilogram, which would be like thirty three percent higher than a prettyty solid lithium ion cell. hundred thousandousand cycle life is functionally a forever cell. Like whatever device you put that battery in would be dead long before you would reach one hundred thousand cycles. And five minute charging functionally useless compared to anything else. Yeah Five minute charging, that's nuts. That basically solves it. I mean, I finally, oh, hey, Luke, I finally got my motorbike Yeah. Cany show me some pictures Man, that looks D man Yeah, I haven't shown the manan show yet. A Wait, how is Dan so far down in my stupid list? Hello Desser. There he is. All right, I'll send these over. we can fire these up here Oh here. I'll also fire you over the picture of discovering why my GPU never showed up in my server after all this time, and I finally got around to opening it up to troubleshoot the problem U Okay, so let's u let's let's do motorbike picture first So I five minute charging had I had to fuel up a vehicle for the first time in a while because my car's electric. And so I got my motorbike back and it probably took me like five minutes Because I went to that gas station. You know the one that you have the loyalty to that doesn't have payout pump Yeah. Overhill yeah. I stopped by there to grab some gas. and so I had park and then I had to go inside. I had to leave my credit card with them, which didn't make me deeply comfortable. But they take your credit card as collateral, then you go put as much gas in the tank as you want. I had no idea how much fuel I needed because it's been three years since Ive fueled my motorbike One And two, the cost of fuel is so different from the last time I fieed it that even if I did remember how much money I took because I don't remember it in leaditers Right side just got me Yeah, That's No idea. I was able to super accurately guess a really long time and then some dude who said he wouldn't start wars or something, started a bunch of wars. No I didn't say that is something, you know, whatever. And now the gas price is insane. and then I can't guess anymore. But yeah, you don't have to doesn't matter for the show, but you don't have to leak your card. can you can just say a certain amount and then go back in and they'll refund it Yeah. But I didn't know. anyay. So I just I was like, okay, sure here, take my credit card. I'll put it as much as I can and then I'll come back and get it. So it probably took me about five minutes to then go and fill it and then go and do the transaction and then go get back on my bike. So if you could if you could refuel an electric vehicle in five minutes. That's functionally in my experperience so similar. to fueling a gasoline car that it might as well be the same thing A new investigation led by battery researcher Zeroth, pulling in over twenty independent experts has now concluded that the miracle battery is literally just a standard lithium ion cell You'll have to watch the video, but here's a summary of the findings First up is the voltage curve. The cell sits at three point seven to three point eight volts at fifty percent charge exactly where high nickelithium ion cells operate A real sodium ion cell doesn't go much past three and a half volts Second and more damning is the cell expansion data. When a battery charges, ions squeeze into the anode to make it swell in a predictable pattern A graphite anode produces a distinctive kink in that expansion curve around fiftycent to seventy percent charge Donut sell. shows exactly that kink, which is impossible for sodium ion because sodium ions are physically too large to fit into graphite it. Researchers compared the combined evidence to having both a fingerprint and a photo of the suspect Real world capacity also came in at about two hundred and ninety eight watt hours per kilogram, which is decent for lithium ion nowhere near the four hundred that was claimed Also The structure behind this thing is a mess of shell companies. The tech traces back to a German firm called CT Catings Patents include things like screen printed paving slabs and warning triangles Nordic Nano was supposedly manufacturing the cells but reportedly never made a single battery Donut Lab handled the selling The company raised around twenty five million dollars from over thirteen hundred Mostly small investors, which is really sad. These are regular people who put in anywhere from three thousand to twenty three thousand dollars each. And then they inflated their valuation to one point two billion dollars off of CES hype Finish financial and criminal authorities are now investigating. It's nice to hear that there are countries where misrepresenting your product is an actual crime when you take money from investors, That's pretty cool Our discussion question is venture capitalists probably would have caught this with basic due diligence. I mean, yes and no. Elizabeth Holes, right? whatever. So the company went straight to small retail investors who couldn't do that. What does it say about crowdfunded tech that the people with the least protection are the ones left holding the bag Usually it doesn't work out this way, but boy when it does, is it ever a giant boatload of suck Isn't that sort of always U Okay, let's go back to the I think I understand you were saying something different than the path I'm going down to be clear. but o if we go back to like the NAX NCIX closure. Like the banks and stuff get paid out first, right? Like the really big Yeah, it's a different thing like bankruptcy proceedings versus like like venture capital. but a lot of the time the the the larger organizations have in both cases, either the the the due diligence capacity or the legal Clout to better protect themselves compared to small Mom and pop investors. Yeah. it's a definite problem on both sides Anyway, super, super disappointed to hear about this. I I never claimed to know enough about cell chemistry to have taken a strong stance one way or the other, which is Um I'm which means that, you know, I was hopeful that it was a cool awesome solid state battery thing, but I also wasn't like You know sure that it wasn't, like I just didn't really have a position on it and now I'm That's also why it's cool that Zerooth is doing this. G'm Glad to have closure. Yeah Yeah. and somebody who does know what they're what they're doing U is working on it. YouTube is such a cool place And hey, I guess I'm ready to show my finished paint job It' It's an eight foot job, but I took these pictures from eight feet away, so it should look pretty good G up there So that's itam That's actually so sick. That's I saw them on Sammy's little phone, but they look way better full This is kind of in the this is in the shadow away from the sun. You can really see on the on the front wheel how there's kind of a bit of a color shift to it. So yeah, Dan, do you want to go ahead and There she is So same here, you can kind of see how it looks a little bit. This is more in the sun. so it looks a little lighter toward the back of the bike. This is just like pictures on my fold Um Yeah, there she is The shop did an amazing job of putting her back together. There's a lot of problems with the paint job, like I said. U notot least of which is that there's some adhesion issues between the white paint layer and the primer that are going to make it not last that long, but For a two thousand three, boy does she ever look? Christine rightight now, new exhaust sounds amazing. I'm not normally like like, oh man, yeah, you should like check out my exhaust. Well sounds so good. I'm not really that type, but Um They managed to do What I was you can you can take it away. Thanks, Dan. They managed to do what apparently I was the very first person to ever ask for Um The original exhaust, the main issue with it is that A didn't match at all because it was like silver and like giant and ugly. and B had a bunch of damage on it from either the previous owner or I. Both of us dropped the bike at some point or another, so it had some damage from that. So I needed a new exhaust and I was like, okay, so I want a quiet one And they were like Nobody's ever asked for that before What are you talking about? Nobody ever wanted to make their motorcycle quieter. And I was like, but but like like I like my V twwin. I like that it doesn't like scream. I like that it's, you know, modestly modestly loud. And u And anyway really funny. Yeah Yeah. so they I found this carbon fiber pipe that was compatible with my bike and I was like, hey, what about this one? This doesn't like advertise being super loud. So they got it and they got a baffle for it. So it has like like it has like a deep growl, but it But it's not super loud. I actually really like it. It sounds amazing John Josh in Canada ask, what's your organ donor status? I'm a proud organ donor If I don't need them, I'd be happy to have somebody else have them. So Yeah, I honestly, I had the I was I was riding scooters in Taiwan part of this last week and I genuinely had the thought of like Would my organ donor card work here Um What happens if you die in a foreign country Oh I don't know, but I'm still alive, so no real reason to keep thinking about it Um We want to talk about the creepy dude stalking Rockstar's office U user then Pomegranateash six twenty five, which sounds like the most Rddit generated auto generated username ever posted on a G oh, it's not even o, no subreddit. Yeah, okay. posted on a GTA six fan subreddit this week about a decreased oxygen levels on the weekends. which this user believes is executives meeting after business hours at the headquarters to discuss markarketing slash trailer three This same user has been tracking audio levels around the office to see if they can identify key topics and trends as well as having counted cigarette buttts left outside try to identify higher levels of stress. So I'd like to jump in real quick here and say this is a prime example of how a behavior may be legal But that doesn't mean that it demonstrates good social skills Yeah It kind of weird. Oh my goodness It's kind of it's funny Yeah, I mean, it's funny until you're a rockstar employee who feels deeply uncomfortable about knowing that this guy is there and like You see him like you go outside for a smoke and then you see him like scurry up afterwards and he like picks up your cigarette with tweezers and gets it like, ye, DNA scanned L's like o It's definitely wacky. U Yeah, there's u what did we what did we used to what did we used to say back in the late nineties, early two thousands? Get a life. That was before touch grass. was that was what we used to say Yeah Get a fucking life. Touch grass is pretty good. Touch grass is pretty good, but also no more than touch grass A actually like grass and get like G bet touch grass in the process of this. He actually probably did Yeah, that's crazy So it doesn't work anymore. Good news, other topic. AMp here is back. Voocards. com with a Z reports that Mly has listed new GFce RTX threety, fifty and three thousand sixty cards on their website. The three thousand sixty U M twenty five twenty one plus N six thirty is the older twelve gig model with three thousand five hundred and eighty four Couics at thirteen twenty. I don't think you have to read every stupid. Q seeen sev seven megahertz Th things you don't care about. There's also a thirty fifty coming. I think I mentioned that previously Manley's webpage does not list North American distribution, but Tech Powerup reported that early May But a tech power up report from early May names ASU Colorful and MSI as partners in at least the RTX three thousand sixty resurrection expected later this month The likely reason for the three thousand series returning versus the four thousand is foundry availability. The three thousand series GPU's are built on Samsung's eight nanometer node, while the four thousand sixty shares the same NvidDA four nanometer node as the five thousand sixty. So yeah, that does make a lot of sense. I think that's a type of I think they mean TSMC rather than NVIidia, there I'll fix that for you So just for context The three thousand sixty twelve gig originally launched In twenty twenty one Yeah, it's still a capable card though How sad is that That it' been five years And that that and that the three thousand sixty twelve gig would be an acceptable gaming GPU today No, Like I remember when we used to get new GPUs every year. Instead of waiting five years for what did we get two generations in that time? and with no six thousand series on the horizon I don't think there's any rumor swirling, which basically means we're six to twelve months out. N least, There's a video coming from a I'm going to be incredibly vague here, a creator Um, who who like charted a bunch of Now I'm going to have to just keep being really vague I think it's not out yet U a bunch of things that have been happening over a bunch of years u No, yeah, it's not that one. Yeah, I don't think it's out yet. but it's it's it's rough man. since since You know, things since it felt good, basically,'s it's been bad. What a what a boring obvious statement, but it's like even worse than I thought when you see it charted out. This sounds like a callaul video I'm calling it I don't know. I can't say. But but three thousand sixty, like, I mean, I've talked so many times on this show about somebody running arc graders on a ten thousand eighty And then you get to a three thousand sixty and now you've got some You know, you've got some ray tracing going on and some of the new do have software features and stuff. a little bit L little bit of little bit of re great face Some light ranging A little bit of things going on here there U twelve gigs of VRM should also really help. Y thirty fifty, I know You know, people need affordable options, but the three thousand fifty mostly because of the VRAM Re feels like it starts to become That's a pretty underpowered card today. Yeah three thousand fifty six gig is We're getting dangerously close to modern IGPU's being somewhat competitible. Totally. Yeah. So that that's that's a lot less interesting to me, but that that three thousand sixty twelve gig a is a serious card. You can get some stuff done with that. That's not too bad. Yeah I'm supportive of this overall. Anything that makes GPUs more plentiful and or more affordable, I am I am all for. I wish this wasn't the solution. becausecause this is effectively Nvidious scrapyard bars where we're manufacturing old GPU's instead of going on Facebook Marketplace to obtain them. but ine The fabled just buy everything from the store, scrapyard worse? Yeah If this is what it takes to get slightly more affordable GPU's, then I guess I'll take it Well I think one thing that I'm really hoping to come from this is just that people that just need a GPU that it say has elve gigs of VM and can do a few things, there will be more options for that because if there's more total output of graphics cards People that need at least that amount of performance will have more options. Hopefully that'll ease up the used market, do some things, help prices here or there. Yeah. Will any of that actually happen And I doubt it, but Hey, here's a fun one. Nintendo of Europe to pay thirty five million euros in fines due to Joy Con drrift In response to faulty Joycons, a complaint from a French consumer organization was filed claiming that Nintendo of Europe misled customers by failing to disclose Joycon controller defects transparently. which caused consumers to buy unnecessary replacement controllers Nintendo has agreed to pay thirty five million euros about forty million US dollars after a French regulator found them liable Nintendo of Europe said in a statement that it did not intentionally mislead customers and that this settlement does not constitute an admission of guilt and reflects only the amicable resolution of legal proceedings. According to a UK watchdog, over forty percent of Switch Joycons have experienced stick drift It is remarkable to me that a company of the size of Nintendo managed to not fix that Yeah. I I don't pretty wild. I don't Get it Um And like that my own experience with Joy Cons Backs this up like I think over forty percent of our first generation Joy Cons drift now And it's not like they've been used super extensively. Like they've been they've been used, but I think Three of us have like finished Breath of the Wild. My son played one of the Pokemon games on Switch. L like there's there's maybe if I were to add it up four hundred hours of gaming across three sets of Joycons. likeike it's not a ton. Pre prettyty rough A unique username says sixty percent of people have a life outside of playing Nintendo games. No, because you don' even you don't even have to play that much for them to for them to break. Oh, yeah, I guess so they have a life that basically does not include Nintendo games because it's a from my understanding, it's like a fundamentally flawed design, right? Like it will Drift Is that correct It's just a matter of when it dies I think so Linus explains joke, makes it not funny Sorry ry I gotta read something for a sec U we have next though? You wantan to do Apple introduces Siri AI? Yeah, I can do that At WWDC on Monday, Apple announced its second attempt at Apple Intelligence, which it is calling Si AI. But it's Gemini under the hood According to Apple, the new S AI can Draw on personal context from your messages, emails and photos, getet up to date answers from the web. Use on screen awareness to tailor its assistance based on the app you're using Use all of that information along with apps on your device to perform tasks on your behalf Fraig Federgis took a pointed shot at other AI companies during the keynote, saying some are racing forward, seemingly pursuing AI for the sake of AI without clear regard for the people it's meant to serve, but according to Craig, Apple's approach is to focus on making AI that improves the lives of their customers Apple also attempted to differentiate themselves from other companies by saying that everything is built privacy first, with anything that leaves the device handled by private cloud compute which the company says does not store or share user data and can be audited by outside experts A presenter demoed Sir AI by asking it about a concert in San Francisco. Sorry, I'm going to short aide here. What is it with every big tech company using going to concerts as a demo lately. Google just did it Okay, J just Apple and Google, Fine, whatever, but it feels like it comes up a lot Our concerts not like Really, really expensive now. This feels like you know how, you know how back in the day Apple would would show you all their new calendar features during the keynote And like the example calendar they have, has like Wake up and do yoga. And then just like a bunch of chill they have like four events in a given day and I'm like Yeah, this is why I can't use your calendar because my calendar will have like twenty five things on it and your data density is so low on your calendar that I like can't see any of it at once Like does it not Does it just feel like The executives are just building the products. to do the things that are relevant to them and to no one else Like As apples as apples as as Ales C sweet has aged Their focus on like health related products and fall monitoring stuff seems to have aged seems to have advanced along with them. L I don't know, it's just a kind of a funny observation. You know what? I'll move Um Anyway, they asked it to about a concert in San Francisco, asked it to set a reminder to sign up for the ticket lottery and then pull a friend's new address out of a message and generate driving directions. Pretty cool, pretty useful A second demo had Siri plan a World Cup watch party for the Brazil versus Morocco match, getting Siri AI to plan a menu for the event, including a dessert idea which was pulled out of a text Some other things were demoed, including improved visual intelligence capable of doing stuff like splitting a bill with Apple Cash or surfacing nutritional information from a plate of food Also better dictation and more customizable voices Apple is also launching a dedicated seri app that uses iCloud to privately sync your conversation history across your devices. Right now, SRAI is available for developer testing and will launch as a public beta later this year Discussion question, Do you think this approach to AI is better than other companies H Well, I was reading other stuff during a decent amount of this p It looks like it's local first and privacy focused and stuff and it seems Ben official Yeah, good It's funny. I took a lot of flack when I was talking about the RTX sppark launch in our video walking in the park at Computex Like, uh, you know Linus is changing his tune. Yeah, when I'm presented with new information, I change my perspective. If I didn't do that, you should listen to me at all Um, I like local AI Local AI seems Pretty cool like you know, Sam Altman l Sam Altman listening in on everything that I'm, you know, confiding in my AI, that I'm super not into anythingthing that I can run locally, I'm actually As long as it's legitimately useful and Yeah, I'm kind of excited about There's a lot of there's a lot of really cool stuff. Nvidia's demos were Really cool. Apple's demos here, look Pretty compelling I need to see it actually work becausecause I've heard all of this before And like the jaded part of me is like, okay, what's gonna to be different this time But if it's cool, then it's cool. The demons through the portal. It's like u It's already here. I think like local if you hate it, local is the way to go. If that makes sense. because you're, you know, don't donon't pay for anything at that point other than hardware, I guess. Hopefully you can use the same hardware you already have. But if you're not fortunate to have super expensive computer hardware, then I guess you need to buy computer hardware. You can try it off the used market or something to do whatever. But anyways, by going the local route, you can Keep up to speed Um, but not directly paying or feeding data into some of these massive AI companies So if that's your biggest gripe, which I think it's the biggest gripe for a lot of people, you can avoid that with local. And with Odysseus being out there, local is more approachable than ever. And as far as I can tell, it's just going to keep being more and more approachable over time, is which is fantastic. I can relate to a lot of the other gripes. I mean, the fact that the fact that this whole technology was built with data that was stolen from creat including me by the way, like me personally. The fact that I was able here. Okaykay, this Probably could I mean, it's also true for like anyone who had a Reddit account. Like this this isn't necessarily like special to any individual person. Like if you were a member of the internet, your information was stolen. Like this could probably use a little bit more context, but I managed to get openp AI to generate this picture before the show with basically no difficulty whatsoever Sorry, I just got jump scared by S. How long have you been there Holy crap. What the heck? That was like some poltergeist stuff right there. That was amazing. I had no idea he was there. Oh my Godd Wow, Thanks, Sammy. Sorry, Lz. Now, you're good. Whoa. And that image that I generated was in spite of Chat GPT refusing multiple times to generate it on the basis of that it was against its U what did it say Um Yeah, against its terms U So it was clearly clearly trained on like me, like my actual creative output and probably almost every single one of you as well And that's Yeahah, that's crap Pre prettyty crap. No, and I completely agree with that. But it's also there Yes. My thing is that that happened And that can be terrible. and we can all agree that that's terrible. and we can all agree that these big companies are profiting off of looting all of that from all of us And I think the biggest way, if you just really want to get back at them for it, the best way to do that is local. Run it in a way that they profit zero and gain data zero 'a then at least might as well use the stuff that was stolen from you Yes, it's using things that was stolen from other people as well. and's that's its own ethic. And that sucks. laundry. And that's pretty crap I don't have much more to say on that, to be completely honest. Thanks's brutal. but I think people are very actively, I know quite a few people right now that are using this stuff to accelerate themselves in ways that are making them much more compible, sorry, much more comp like that competible their peers competible able to to competitive. Yeah. If you can do that with local systems, then you're able to keep up with those people and not profit these big organizations And I think that's a cool at least option. A least option. att the very least, I think you can go with the like the performance combo of having the Oh what did why did I blank on the name The frontier models and using that for like special high difficulty stuff if you want and then having the local models for everything else. And you can do some really I hear people talk about how the frontier models are so much furtherhead than the local models. I think that's overplayed a little bit. The frontier models are quite clearly ahead, but I think in the use cases, that As far as I can tell, Most people are using AI four, you can really do a lot of that with local models. And then as I said earlier in the show, when you really do need to push it, you can Switch your your model to one of the frontier models. You can do that in Odysseus. You can have both cloud based frontier models, whatever, and you can have local models running through the same UI. So yeah, own it yourself. I think that's the only real way. Um One day after a group of people loluded the liibrary of Alexandria, they took it all, but somehow you're able to get a copy of that I think you should take it No, it's not really related. One day after its discovery, Meta has pulled the unreleased facial recognition system out of its Smart Glasses companion app U Wired revealed that the code was sitting on more than fifty million phones. The system was internally called Name tag, and according to Wired, it was designed to convert faces captured by the glasses into unique biometric signatures Then compare those face prints against a database stored on the user's device WR also reported that any faces the system failed to recognize cropped, indexed, and stored locally on the phone for future processing Note that Meta refused to answer Wired's questions on whether the biometric data would be sent back to Meta's servers The feature was never turned on But the machinery was already built into the Meta AI app as early as January, even as Meta publicly said it had made no final decision about face recognition. Name tag first surfaced in the news in February, when the New York Times cited internal metad documents showing the company was waighing a launch as soon as this year, with one memo reportedly describing releasing it during a dynamic political environment when privacy and civil liberties advocates would be distracted Yeah. After Wired's first report, MetaVP of Communications Andy Stone said the company could not answer questions about how the system would work because This is a quote, The feature does not exist The update of MetaAI apps strips out the face recognition software You doing okay for that, Dan This current year is absurd. This is just. you know what? remove them. rememove the thing. Okay. rememove the thing. It counts if Dan can't anymore. The updated meta app strips out the face recognition software, including the code that ran the name tag recognition process, the person recognized alert that the app would have shown, and the folder where the app would have stored cropped images and biometric signatures of unidentified faces. Our discussion question is, is there anything we can do to protect our privacy when this kind of tech? simimply even exists Um, I mean, there's those cool camera rejecting reflective accessories you can wear I don't think it helps if they aren't emitting IR. so Mm. F I think What else we got? Not go in public, says scrappy DP. wayay ahead of you there. If I wasn't a YouTuber, I would just hang out in my house What else we? If you're in semi private places U, I don't know why I'm saying semi private. I mean private places but I'm not necessarily including only like your house because you' in like say your friend's house. Right. like that. or a business likeike a restaurant U you might be able to make it the rule of the business or restaurant or there's the same thing, whatever, or maybe a house rule that you can't wear these glasses when you're in those places The tough part is that this rhymes to me with the palanter saving a bunch of lives and also stealing all of your precious data that you could ever have in return which is It's going to be really hard to tell people, hey, you can't wear your glasses that you might need to see. Yeah, because they'll they'll have a prescription in there And they might not have prescription not smart lenses because these things are You can you can hate it all you want, but it's going to go mainstream. likeike it's going to go people just have they might not have their other glasses on them. Yeah. So they might just not be able to see if you want your privacy. Yeah which is these cost exchanges are going to make it very socially difficult. It would be very socially difficult to say no to the Palantier thing in the eyes of someone potentially dying, it wouldd be very socially difficult to say, no, you can't wear your glasses. just someone who actually needs them to be able to see. and o they just also happen to be able to surveill everyone that's in your location. The other problem is You can definitely just mod them so that the indicator light does not go on when you record video. So like it's over already. It barely started and it's over. If someone has these glasses, you have no real way of knowing, they might be recording you. it just That includes in bathrooms, that includes in Um, Huge variety of places I'm trying to imagine like U There are a variety of places around the world. I was there recently. so I was just thinking of it recently U, But mean even here in Taiwan, they have certain hots springs that are like nude hots springs. And in Japan, they have the Anss where you're not really supposed to wear clothes. I'm assuming you would still be able to wear glasses But if you can't see without your glasses, you would have to be able to wear glasses. Yeah Um, I suspect cameras aren't exactly welcome at like nude beaches. There's nude beaches in North America. I'm not just trying to centralize this to Asia But someone would be allowed to wear their glasses The thing is like glasses can get in a lot of places that cameras can't U and are much more socially acceptable to point at things because you're Pting at it with your face Moty CH says at Luke and Linus Time to trim the people you hang out with It's like I wish it was that simple, you know? L I u It's not that simple. like with acquaintances Sure, maybe You could do that but with like Longime friends are you're going to terminate a friendship over someone wearing AI glasses. Some people might Most people won't What about family? Are you gonna excommunicate family over them wearing AI glasses This is the exact thing I just mentioned where it's socially difficult. That's what I meant by this. Yeah. It is going to be socially difficult to the point of not possible for a lot of people. Um to Do that Mind Paradox flagged the solution for us here Um Great moment from the Princess Bride. I don't know if you guys have audio Oh Lordie Why do I suck at this Fixed There you go There we go Ready massive or something like that? Oh no, it's just they sore terribly comfortable. I think everyone will be wearing them in the future That's a great line. Masks are terribly comfortable, I think everyone will be wearing them in the future So because he asks why he wears a mask Um yeah, so that's an option. You could just everyone could just wear masks. Also high social friction. I think when you walk into the bank in your bandit mask, they probably will ask you to remove it Yeah, Grllwing says, I can't even get family to care about basic web privacy. littleittle chance I can get them to care about the privacy implications of devices like this, given an interesting feature set. Yeah, exactly. Hh Yeah, o man, I didn't even think about like coworkers. IMSS says the CEO at my old company wear the Facebook Oakly glasses to the office regularly. Yeah. so friends, family. Yeahah, don't forget about like your boss. You're going to tell your boss, okay, you you wear Facebook glasses. I quit Some people might have the luxury to do that. I guarantee you not everybody does Most people won't. The vast majority of most people won't. Man, somebody said something in here wordic U someone said places are successfully banning them. And I think I mentioned earlier that like you might be able to ban them in certain businesses and private places as well But I think Linus' for now is really important here. I'm not necessarily certain why he's saying for now, but my reason for for now Um is What about when it's not just meta How do you keep up with all of the different classes that are smart enabled? Look at how many lookook at how many like tabletsts there are on Ali Express How many brands of smartwatches there are? You give it another five years And there's going to be literally a thousand different options for smart glasses. They are going to be smaller and sleeker than anything that we're looking at today It's going to become very difficult to tell if there's a camera in it at all. U, and in parallel, people are going to sigh and shrug and go, well, it's inevitable and are going to be less vigilant and it's just going to kind of They're going to get harder to notice and people are going to care less and those points are going to intersect and they will just kind of be everywhere. And I hate to be defeatist about it and by all means you should You should advocate strongly in your social circle for people not wearing them in situations where there's an expectation of privacy Um and advocating for yourself and what you're comfortable with I just I won't be super surprised when it maybe doesn't work. U what will work is telling you about our next batch of sponsors though The show is brought you by Squarespace Your website says a lot about who you are, how you operate, and the types of customers you wish to attract So it shouldn't look like this. 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Dan, you can show that picture Luke This is why my GPU wasn't showing up I completely forgot that when we built it, we planned to open it back up at a later date and add like an Oculink to PCIE or M. two to PCIE riser or something to run this GPU as a compute device and then just never got to it So it was literally wasn't even plugged in Well there's your problem. Anyway, I fixed that yesterday. And I was firing up server parts deals because I was like, oh yeah, like what's how's my server capacity? Do I need any more drives? And they' a great place. Okay, sorry, I'll read the thing Uh waitlists for the newest hard drives can sometimes be months long and if you're not a hypercaler Probably not a priority Well sererver parts deals has shipped Pens, they have tens of thousands of dries in stock and Even orders of one hundred drives or more can often be shipped same day Everything is tested once they get them, even recertified Western Digital and Sea Gate drives, they get an initial smart test FIO throughput across multiple parts of the disk, a full surface bad block scan, and then another smart to make sure that nothing changed For larger businesses or data center buildouts, they also do buybacks Or if you're upgrading your system, they can help offset the cost Do you need hard drives fast? Skip the waitlist with sererver parts deals. We'll have a link downown below. Sorry, it's server part deals, isn't it h Hold on. I'm gonna to double check. I can never remember. thoughtought it was parts, but my talking points say part part. It is part. It is part. Don't go to Sver parts deals. I don't know what the heck that is. Server partart deals Good job Linus, good podcast sponsor, Read, way to go sccrew up the name of the company Thank you for that, Dan. That's very helpful. He's a professional. He's been doing this for twelve years All right. Okay, you gotta do the next topic ' I gotta run to the washroom. Okay, sure. One way to get real confused about pricing is to load up server part deals and have it automatically have the currency be in new Taiwanese dollars and have a hard drive cost twenty thousand dollars U anyyways I was like, whoa, what happened We're good. It's okay. Yeah, sure we'll do this one. no, Linos probably want to talk about it. Let's see Let's see let's see Or we could get a couple of Cs. Yeah, this one's interesting. sorry. Or we could get a couple of Cs out of the way for you specifically or do a topic, whatever you want. I don't think. If you've got Cs for me, we can do that. Yeah, sure. whyy not? Let's see. If not I got a topic here. Okay, cool. If you haven't heard, there's a major Ach AUR supply chain attack happening right now I have heard about that. I don't know all the details. but yeah, I have heard about that. That sucks. I think M. I feel like the server side of Linux is Pbably pretty well monitored in terms of security. but with the user base on the desktop side being as small as it has been for years, I don't know Um It's it's going to get stress tested a little bit as there are waves and waves of people moving from from Windows over there and the honey pot of being able to attack desktop Linux systems grows Um it's going to become more and more attractive for attackers. So We'll see how it all goes. I had at least one person reach out to me being like, are you okay? because you're on cashy? I guess somewhat luckily for me. my laptop is not my laptop is running mint and windows. My desktop is running cash and windows and I've been traveling for the last two and a half weeks. So my desktop is at home and powered down. So it has not hit me and as far as I've heard, it's been fixed since then So yeah. someone in chat said basically someone was sorry, S John Trumbley in chat said basically someone was adopting orphaned AUR packages and adding malicious calls to NPX U in the install scripts H Yeah. Yeah, I I know a lot of people love the AUR tend to try to lean away from it. I don't even know why. I've never actually had a reason. This was not a reason and honestly moving forward I don't think this would be a reason. I've just liked other ways of installing things so far, but You know, you do what you gotta do sometimes. Anyways, you have another one Yeah, what's your LLM of choice D Flavor of the month Yeah, kinda U And if you're running like if you're running like T three chat, it's really easy to skip through and use whichever one you want. They have a huge variety of options and they keep them up to date U I find that's kind of a fun way to use things is teet threeCat because You can try so many different things out and they have so many different options Um If you want to stay on top of things that can be good, if you're not running local stuff Um If you're running local stuff, if you're running something like Odysseus, can you can cookbook every once in a while and see what things are good for you to run right now. I don't necessarily even recommend having like one specific model of choice Um, I think you kind of want to pushing keep progressing with the with all the things. If you're if you're like with the times enough to be using AI stuff in general You might as well be up with the times enough to be U mobile with models to make sure that you're using the right stuff, the best stuff you can Do we want to talk about Canada's under sixteen social media ban Sure. I don't know a ton about it, but yeah. The Canadian federal government has introduced Bill C thirty four, legislation that would ban kids under sixteen from using social media platforms, particularly Facebook, Instagram, and Snapchat The bill defines social media broadly as any site or app that lets users access and share content across provincial and global borders Companies can get a pass if they set up proper safety measures for kids, however, the exact criteria will come later via official regulation passed, it would also put the responsibility on websites to protect children from harmful content, including cyber bullying The bill would also create a digital safety commommission to monitor sites for compliance, conduct audits, issue compliance orders, and dish out fines of either Three percent of a company's global revenue ten million cad, whichever's higher Interestingly, AI chat bots won't be banned for kids under sixteen, but companies will need measures in place to deal with users expressing intent to commit violence or self harm. The bill would not, however, require chatbot companies to report these interactions to Police So our discussion question is, unlike Australia's flat ban, this bill, if passed, would let platforms earn an exemption by proving adequate safeguards that don't exist yet. Is this a genuinely smarter way to incentivize big platforms to fix infinite scroll and addictive algorithms, or is it just a lobbying back dooor where the exemption criteria gets watered down until everyone qualifies and nothing changes I think only the time will tell. Electrobot asks a really good question. Maybe this is a more interesting discussion question. Why is this the only time we've ever heard of a fine that is a percentage of global revenue That seems pretty smart U It does seem pretty smart. if you want companies to actually, you know, stop doing a thing Yeah, and the whichever is higher is like. Usually it's like whichever limit you reach first. Yeah the opposite U It's kind of fun. I have It feels even weird to admit But I have some hope in this being D. genuinely smarter way to incentivize big platforms to fix infinite growing addictive algorithms over the loophole thing. The current Canadian admin has been doing You know, not every step is is perfect. has been doing some good stuff and I have I have hope for the first time in a long time. So arere you ready for the other shoe to drop Oh boy. Signal duck duck goo among firms weighing Canada exit over lawful access bill. Oh yeah, yeah, good point. Yeah, this one blows. The big mes in the VPN and privacy industry are threatening to pull out of Canada over Bill C twenty two Lawful access bill, which would force service providers to retain user metadata for up to a year and build in ways for police and CSIS to access it While the bill mainly targets core providers, like the big satellite and telecom companies VPNs are involved as the public safety mininister can issue secret ministerial orders forcing any provider to comply These orders only need sign off from the intntelligence commommissioner No judicial warrant needed, and providers aren't allowed to publicly say that the order exists Signal told Parliament that it would rather leave than betray its users Duck.go confirmed that it would pull its VPN, and NordVPN said it would consider All options, including leaving Canadian jurisdiction Canadian based wind sccribe was the bluntest, saying it pays Qote ungodly amount of taxes to a government that now wants to spy on its own citizens and flatly stated that it will move its HQ out of the country if the bill passes Even big tech this is directly supported by the current governing body. So I got to take back what I said. Even big tech well, I don't think you have to necessarily take back what you said you did say with some exceptions. I guess this will be an extremely strong exception Apple, Google and Meta have all pushed back on the bill, and Apple has already shown its willingness to follow through on this kind of pushback having killed its encrypted cloud service in the UK over a similar sort of back dooor order. The public safety Minister says amendments are coming to clarify that breaking encryption won't be allowed but is holding firm on the one year retention period. Our discussion question is, if privacy focused services actually exit Canada, does the bill end up making Canadians less safe by pushing them towards sketchier offshore alternatives Or is that an acceptable trade off for giving police the tools they say they need? U there's offshore alternatives that aren't that sketchy Yeah. I think if people are using VPNs now in Canada, they will continue to be able to do so. If China, with all of its technological wherewithal, cannot figure out how to actually maintain the great firewall Don't get me wrong, Canada Love you, your cool beavers rocks and trees and water and stuff, veryery cool I don't think you're going to pull off keeping offshore privacy tools out of Canada anyway So I'm not convinced that this is going to make much of a difference. I could just Continue to subscribe to Winscribe, who is now based in Europe somewhere. I don't know I don't actually use Windscribe, I use PIA, but same same diff. I'll just continue to subscribe to whatever service I already use in all likelihood Norgard says this is deeply crappy, but would also depressingly only bring them up to parody with the Patriot Act. I actually don't know much about the Patriot Act. I haven't thought about it since like actuallyually, has Snowden been in the news at all recently? I don't think so. I lastil up recently actually. It seems like it Yeah, he's still living in Russia, it seems. Okay hasn't been drafted or anything. Now I was going to say, that's gott to be an uncomfortable situation right now. Uh, what else we got here? AMD claims that its' two hundred and fifty six core Zen six Venice CPU Beats N Vidas Vera by three point three X in rack level performance. They presented early projections showing that bothoth configured to the same one hundred thousand watt rack power envelope, they could dramatically outperform NVidDia's upcoming CPU. The comparisons based on estimated and modeled performance data, not completed side by side benchmarks of shipping products, and AMD describes the results as preliminary projections intended to indicate expected performance trends rather than final measured outcomes Basically, this presentation was a response to NVidia's own early Vera benchmarking campaign, which was based on NVIidia controlled testing. AMD's projections were built using methodology that was derived from those virA results And my notes go on fight, fight, fight I mean, yeah, competition.' cool Al always fun to grab a grab a bucket of popcorn and watch. I do really feel that AMD might be maybe intentionally missing the point a little bit here. I don't think anybody is I don't think anybody expects Vera to be like a top performing CPU. I think the whole point of it is just the deep integration with the new Rubin GPUs And I don't think NVidia is trying to go for the general purpose CPU market, at least not at this time But yeah, hey, you know what? Keep fighting AMD still kind of run for you even though you kind of really fuck it up on the thread ripper side. Me too, dan spe think of Segways, Done Boat picked up downed US Army helicopter pilots first for sea rescues. After a US Army helicopter went down near the Strait of Hormuz while on patrol, its two pilots were rescued by a Corsair boat drone built by Suronic, a startup that makes autonomous surface vessels or ASVs. Using the vessel's three hundred and sixty degree passive sensors, the Navy's task force fifty nine looccated the downed crew and picked them up within two hours. carrying them to a safe spot on the water for a helicopter pickup Impant note, the Corsaair's embedded AI software stack does the heavy lifting handling immediate moment to moment navigation. It dynamically plans paths around changing sea states and is supposedly able to continuously weait in position and regulate fuel and power consumption, only engaging the engine when needed Hereron expects the Corsaair model is a twenty four foot. ASV we previously defined that that can haul up to a thousand pounds across a thousand nautical miles. I really like that number. With the top speed of Nope, not a thousand forty meters per sorry forty miles per hour. Suronic has two other larger ASV models as well. And notably, this is believed to be the first unmanned sea rescue in US. military history performed by boats that only entered into service in March. Imagine being the recipients of that Um I'm just looking for something. There's one last Mbe topic here. Thereere we go I'm going to forward this to Dan Daniel Besser There is All right, before we get to after dark Um, Ashtag asked really nicely for me to do a bit of an update from them. So if you're not familiar ShTch makes HexOS, which is the NAS software that I backed a little while ago I did and it'll take a second. Um So it's based on true Naz, but it's like a simplified front end slash also becoming a lot more than that, which is exactly what they wanted me to talk about. TaxoS lets you do so much more Um Here are a few things. A prec confonfig. This feature is coming very soon in June, possibly next week. The first set of apps will be Plex Jelly Fin and MBy. And what app preconfig is is basically like a one click set upp of apps like Plex and they sent over a pretty cool little deemo. Dan, do you have that heXOS plex preconfig.mp for Did you get the email y Nope, got him Okay, so just to make it clear, this is never forced But the goal is just to reduce the amount of steps required and cognitive load on the user to get a functional experience, making apps far more app like and far less Um Figure out a whole bunch of crap like Let me know when you're ready, Dan Check this out Lke Yeah, go for it There's a one minute time lapse But basically, this is the whole thing. So see that pre conffigure thing? U So you sign in tier plex because obviously like They can't sign in for you. You have to do that Yeah, sure There's your name. And here we go So it obviously has to install the docker. And then on the left is the old way This is actually a pretty cool little demo that they put together Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah blah, blah, blah, go find folders, blah, blah blah blah, blah, blah blah blah, blah, blah blah blah blah, blah bl Fish configuring all the folders. Are they gonna to do this for Jellyin? Have they done this for Jellyin already U Plex, jelly Fin And MB will be the first set of apps with this pre conffigure launch If you're using their preonfigured folder structure which The idea is that you will There it is Oh, I love that. That's a nice touch. That's a nice touch. G Got the LT screwdrivers in the. Yeah Coming soon MB and jellyfin out of the box linking between the R apps and qubit torent and much more. okay. so they're being pretty explicit about that Okay, thank you for that John. Hell yeah Hell yeah Okay, what else they got? Additional app curations are also available now. So these are ones that are just like validated but don't have necessarily that one click setup. So flatter, that's a jellyfin front end. Jelly Stat, statistics app for Jellyfin and MB SER is a request management and media discovery tool that works for Jellyfinplelex or MB servers. that's a pretty funny thing to call that. Request management and media discovery. okay MKV ToolMix is a set of tools to create, alter and inspect Matrroska files. Gee, I wonder why you would need that And key is a fast and powerful bitorrent web UI There's also more coming over the next several weeks and They wanted me to talk about any raid So there's a webinar on june twenty fifth that if you're into likeike ZFS raid, you might want to actually check out So Ellen Jude of Clara Inc and John Panazo of EhTech, creator of HexOS will be hosting a joint webinar to discuss ZFS any raid So how it works is it improves traditional prod improves storage space efficiency. And you can learn more on the Clara website about how it differs from traditional raid Z Also, buddy backups. You know how thats that was one of my key conditions for this thing being a thing that I will financially back There's a timeline The team has been focused on buddy backups since the one point zero release U Things are going quicker than anticipated and they're hoping for Q three of this year. So sometime in the next three and a half months buddy backups. So I just want to explain what buddy backups are. Um Pretty much you have a buddy Like there's my budd You both have a HexOS NAS And you can both install some extra storage in each other's servers And without Uloading to any cloud or going to anybody else's service, you can send an encrypted copy that is stored on your buddy server You can allocate that storage to each other so that you don't go over the quota that you set And you can have a secure safe off site backup on hardware that you or your buddy controls and nobody else needs to look at or touch. And really the magic is not in doing that. That's something that you could do today. with Oen source free tools. You could totally set up something like that literally tonight in your spare time But The part that is a little bit harder is doing so without opening ports and without going through a bunch of networking tomfoolery and command line configurations. So this is like and Go which is pretty pretty exciting Amaria says as long as my buddy can't see it, yes, that is absolutely ritical is that it would be encrypted such that only you know what you have backed up to your buddy's system Also, they asked me to flag that a lifetime pricing increase is coming soon The one hundred and ninety nine price point is coming to an end, no exact date, but likely in Q three They need to deploy a new e commer solution to replace the blah, blah blah, blah blah, onnce that's done, letime will be going to hundred ninety nineents. just watch out for that All right, that's it. There you go, John. I did your I did your thing. It's legitimately really exciting stuff. I'm really stoked for Buddy backackup and the app curations and the one touch. U onene touch setup looks Like honestly, awesome. Like setting up plex isn't even that hard for me now. I've done it enough tyes. All right, excuse me. I've done it enough times that it's like fine. I know how to do it But it's tedious I'd rather not If I could just click one button and it's done And all I have to do is just, you know put my movies in my movies folder and put my pictures in my pictures folder And then it'll just do it for me. Yeah, that's That's pretty cool Oh, shoot, Sammy demands float plane announcement. Oh, I'm so sorry, Sammy, I totally forgot about you. Before you do that, pointing out potential liability risks of the buddy backup thing. Um We've talked about this in the past. If it's an encrypted copy, I just don't really see Yeah, if if you genuinely truthfully have no way to access it and it's encrypted I could see like if they end up getting investigated for something, they might like seize your drive. Yeah U, which would suck obviously. Yeah Thebody seize your whole server So you should probably only do this with buddies. But I mean, by this logic, If you uploaded an encrypted file with incriminating Media to Google Drive like Is Google? criminally liable for this? I don't think so So am I missing something here? I that's kind of where Yes, they are They would have no way of knowing if it's encrypted. Yeah, I think I think people are not fully understanding what encrypted means. a little bit If it's an encrypted container file And you upload it to Google. They don't know what's in it They're saying they can be compelled to Pint an old shirt Turn it over to what unless it can be decrypted then it's then it's it's a blob of ones and zeros I tell you Hello. Oh, thank you So he tried angrily complaining we haven't done float plane announcement. Now he's trying buttering you up to do float plane announcement. Wh which one's going to work? He is. Yeah. think I think we should do the flo plane announcement. I think we should. Thanks Sammy Have you ever wondered what our travel weeks look like? Sammy vlogged his entire week in Taiwan From the immediate airport, I donon't know what immediate Oh, from the immediate airport to A SS shoot to I don't know what he's talking about What a week at LMG looks like Wait is this the one? No, this is an old one. Sammy, what the crap is this link? What do you talk about there? What the wrong link. I think'sediting it now. I see his cursor in here Is that Samy? No, that's Dan. Okay, I don't know. whatever So he vlogged his entire week from airport to a Sous shot to going out for dinner with Tern and Luke who tried stinky tofu for the first time. So if you're into how we get videos done, then this vlog is for you. But maybe you're more into Linux Bam, we have some stuff that was taken out of the partart four Linux challenge video just ended up on the cutting room floor. So we've got some extra from there. We will also have a video fully showcasing Linus' motorcycle shooting soon. So let us know what you want to see from it. Linus hasn't agreed to do this video, but I'm volnt telling him to do this video LMG. gG slash FP whenN. Yvon did shoot M me, o, I forgot to prick that. Oh I forgot to bring that phone for Glenn today. Oh crap U well, I will do it on Monday. Yvon shot me going to pick it up, Sammy, so you'll be able to use that for whatever it is that you're doing Tammy says this is what happens when you write the dock at seven AM dd it in the link for you Okay Here's the here's the proper link to the proper vlog There you go What a week at LMG looks like Samy POV Taiwan edition going on in this What are we looking at here? Oh, they're trying to show the fan working using like hair I eventually figured it out by just ripping a bigger clump of hair out of my head So if you if you watch that video U they were like they were trying to shoot one hair and it was really hard But u I was like, No, guys, you just need more hair. So I just like like grabbed a whole thing of hair out of my head. And then it worked pretty good And Let let me see if I can find it Pretty cool video, actually. If you guys haven't seen it, you definitely wantan to check out the Ionic Ionic cooling video. this perfectly silent fan took three hundred years to make oh my Godd ads I can't believe roundup is leegal again. That's crazy Yeah Dude, I didn't really like understand what it was. and I went a little ham with roundup attacking weeds on our lawn when I was a teenager.oy. like Destroy emolated it My mom was she came out then like a day or two days later, like it it acts really fast. She's like, what the fuck is going on? E The lawn is dead Yeah Yeah, anyway As mostly a good kid All right, should we start a u Should we start after dark? After dark? Yeah. Yes Maybe they didn't put it in the edit, Maybe it was too gross If someone has a timestamp, let me know. othertherwise I give up Hyy Dan. I think Are you guys excited for Legend of Zelda Ocarini of Time rememake, officially being teased for later this year And Luke, could you plan on finally having something to play on your switch too? The thing that is finally going to be playable in my Switch two is that game That is a remake for my childhood. Yeah the game literready came out. Yeah, really Uh D I had no idea that was coming that Ashley does sound pretty cool. That was a sick game I feel like it would still be really fun haaven't played it in a billion years. so it might be fun to run through again. I'm sure I actually Do I remember a lot of it but also don't remember a lot of it. so yeah I was not an O Koreana timee kid. I didn't have an N sixty four. My friend had an N sixty four, but I like I'm not like but I'm going to go to my friend's house and I'm going to sit and play single player games That's that's not That's not cool. So I have tried to play Oarina of timee on at least three occasions Um I think I actually own it for virtual console on my Wii And I tried it at least a couple times there and I tried it at least once emulated and I just Um haven't managed to get into it I have played through Link to the past I've played through most of the Legend of Zelda, like in the Ness one, I've played through Phantom hourglass, I've played through Twilight Princess. I've played through Breath of the Wild. I'm like actually as far as game franchises go, I'm I'm as muchuch into Zelda as I am into any franchise and I just C't Okarina of time. I'm so sorry to my fellow Zelda faithful question for Linus, when Dbrand wants to do a sponsor with certain stunts, like the box of glass with a phone in it Doid they tell the team or get any approval Yeah, I genuinely typically don't know about it which there's good things about that And there's also somewhat irritating things about that sometimes There's been stuff that I've had to be like, yeah, no Not very often Especially now that, you know we understand each other pretty well, but it has happened ake of that what you will Hello from Edmonton. Hi, Edmonton. I drive a garbage truck They have recently installed AI nanny cameras into our trucks. I find they encourage dangerous habits. I worry insurance start demanding them That's Dangerous habits I would love to hear more about what potential dangerous habits a nanny camera could encourage 'a I'm sure I believe is that's gross, but Yeah, I don't know Like I genuinely believe you, but I don't, I'm having a hard time imagining what that might be. I really wish I could have a little bit more context here Maybe if you're operating too slowly gets mad at you.. I can see reaching production quotas Um Also pros of quaras have increased this week, get owned. Yeah, that makes that makes sense I'm not sure though, I don't know Oh man. Okaykay. so Oh, this is oh man. Okaykay this sorry, this is about to go a little bit off the rails here because my immediate knee jerk reaction is like, yeah, Nanny camera is terrible. U And then That made me think of like something that I was going to post as a tweet or something. I was just going to do like and obviously it's an observation that's been made many, many times, but I wanted to post a picture of the the pedal well of my Uber driver and there would be a brake pedal and then just like an on off toggle switch on on the cast pedal. And was I was thinking as I was sitting getting like violently nauseous in the back of a cabin or of an Uber in Taiwan Um that ironically had one of those do you ever see these those rule signs in the back of the Ubers there that will say like no smoking, no whatever, No throwing up. There's some that say no barfing U It was like, bro, I wouldn't be choosing to vomit But if you're going to drive like this, you're really putting me in a pretty awkward position U Anyway, it was occurring to me as I was sitting in the back of this Uber, not able to do anything other than stare out the front windscreen and hope that I'm not going to throw up that it would be so easy for Uber to fix this problem by just using the fucing accelerometer data that's already in the phone that the Uber dririver absolutely has to have and just logging that and being like, hey, You need to chill the fuck out on the brake pedal and the gas pedal so that you dri so that your passenger doesn't throw up in the back of your car. Honestly, my driver to the airport was insane. and then I had at least two while I was in Taipei. that just R R, Wh whyy you take a car in the airport Sorry Whyd you take a car to the airport? Because it's cheaper It's cheaper than the train? Yeah, if I'm gone for like seven days Wait, sorry, what are you asking? I'm supposed to take the train to the airport I thought you meant sorry, sorry, I thought you meant from the hotel in Taipei Oh you No no No from No from in Vancouver. Okay. I understand. Okay. Yeah. so once once I'm gone for like I think I think the threshold is five days or something like that. If I'm gone for more than five days then it's cheaper more being so expensive. No, I got you. I thought I thought you Yeah Yeah.. Anyway, so yeah, so you've had you have the G force data from the phone and then also another thing that just What triggered the crap out of me is I went to leave like a three star review because Realistically we didn't crash, you know, they didn't like kill me, but also I was feeling really sick And you know how it prompts you? It's like o, well what was the issue Nausea is not in there What is it that with such a like universal meme Uber drivers and their ridiculous acceleration and braking How is it that that is not in there as an issue with your ride? That's crazy. It has to be intentional There is no way that that's not intentional It's weird that that's a known thing. Be you'd think that would be Wse for gas And worse for car maintenance. I don't get it dude. don't know Yeah I't know. It doesn't seem that complicated to make small adjustments to the gas pedal I mean, and maybe part of it is just that I've been married to someone with like serious motion sickness issues for a thousand years Um, and so I just I just automatically adjust my driving style when have when I have a passenger. Like when I'm in my car on my own or whatever, I don't care. I'll just open it up cares it's me I' not going gonna get sick driving my own car. But when I have a passenger, I'm like like trying to be smooth about it. And I guess maybe they just like neverever had anybody tell them I don't know I don't know It just seems like they do care about a lot of passenger issues. Why is Nausea not one of them when it's just Such a meme My son listens to the show with me and your videos have him interested in tech and programming But I worry about him watching other online content from tech bros Any suggestions for young enthusiasts? Man, this is one of those classic questions people ask me that I just really don't know the answer to because the truth is I just don't consume a lot of YouTube Sorry to Wendall Wendel's like the most wholesome person that I know Level one text is a little technical, but like He also explains things really well Yes. I figure if you watch enough level one Taxi eventually you'll have some idea what the heck he's talking about. This was a young enthusiast of what? Linux was it No, just tech and programming. program. I don't think Wendell goes over Programming Attack Definitely think a lot of the YouTubers I watched when I was trying to learn programming. I don't know if they're even still around Um, if I can that are still Maxwell in flloatple Chat says Hacksmith Mark Rber, Michael Reeves The one YouTube shorts guy, Is that what they're actually called or are you just Meing Oh Mag you just mentioned is very fun on the entertainment side of things, but not necessarily the education side. Technology connections Oh yeah, Bent Bob says Loruri Wired. That's that's that's a cool place to hang out. Definitely. that one would be really good especially for inspiration. Yeah Okay, there's a few there's a few good ones I haven't watched this channel since I went to BCIT. been A hot minute But I used to watch the new Boston forward Java tutorials A million years ago. Oh my God, that's a name I haven't heard in a years Do you recognize that name? Yes Yeah. Oh that hurts. U Yeah, Java prorogramming tutorial one, installing the SDK from seventeen years ago has six point eight million views. Oh, Anie H Kash has another really good one. Branch education is amazing Oh branch education is sick. Yeah that's a great one. That should be enough to keep them busy until it's time for you to order something else from the store Yeah, I like it All right, hit me Dan. Hey, Luke and Ninus. My boss is the executive at my work and I spend a lot of time ensuring he gets all his tasks done As executives yourselves, do you have any insight how I can manage this better? Is it F are you still here? Yeah, you're asking the wrong person. I mean, making sure that the calendar is like set up with realistic amounts of time for things, I think is really helpful U Consider travel time when booking things. Yeah, that's really helpful.. Try not to actually book things exactly back to back all the time because sometimes the brain needs a little bit of a reset or you need to grab a water or go to the washroom or there's travel time involved or something U I find A lot of my days I end up like pushing meetings back just constantly to the point where it's like almost a meme. And one of the reasons why is because I'll have like six hours straight off meetings with zero breaks between them that often do involve some form of like travel time or something else. And all this is quite literally impossible. Like I did Yeah. Be cognizant of decision fatigue. I'm going to use the horrible AI overview. Here we go. state of mental exhaustion caused by making repeated choices throughout the day Um and Every decision contributes to it. It's actually really interesting. It was something that I experienced for a lot longer than I knew what it was L It was always very obvious to me that I should not think about my wardrobe at all in the morning. I should simply grab whatever t shirt is at the top of my pile and whatever pants are at the top of my pile and just put them on because I don't have room in my brain to think about that and then also all the other things that I need to think about in a given day U And so it manifests in like weird ways. like when I'm having a really intense morning already Like Vance will ask me like, hey, do you want me to get something for you and for lunch? And I'll be like, And literally I can't think of what to eat Um And so that's just it's like it's obviously a super first world problem But findinding ways to manage out pointointless decisions that don't matter Um, so that They have mental capacity left for things that actually do have an impact on the business is something that I would say would be helpful H Linus, as a fellow lover of soup dumplings, I saw you went to Dintai Feng at Computex. I've only been to one in the U.S and I'm wondering if it's the same in North America. Have you ever tried it in Canada? I haven't I think they mean California We actually have one. We have one one Yeah. where Uh I looked earlier. It was Alburnnie. Port Albberni. H it in Taifung? No No Alburnni Street. Oh, It's in Vancouver Oh, that's hilarious, Vancouver. It is on Al Burnnie Street, yeah Is that the same one Is it like aange It the same company. It's. Yeah Locations. As far as Mana goes. Oh ye It's the same as all the other North America ones But I don't see any actual Taiwan locations Did't I find North America Okay, I don't actually know if this is the same company. Myh man, this is o dude, I'm gonna to get canceled for this for sure. Dentai Fung is overrated Ebarrassed it Oh I was excited to try it. I love dumplings. It's's I didn't say it's bad By all means try it, but it's not the best thing ever. it's the worst obiously. Well, no No Is it overrated? Is it overrated because you've probably, I'm not exaggerating at all, had it fifty plus times I've only been to D Tyifong, I think twice Ever? Yeah, there's no way. I've been with you to Dintifhone more than two times. Okay. Every time I've gone, I was with you then. Like I've never gone there of like my own accord So like three to yes then Um Like the soup dumplings at the hole in the wall down the road from our hotel are better Just straight up better No that's true That is a really good spot. Like I just I have had Za Wangin other soup dumplings at a variety of other places in Taiwan. That are worse. And Dintifg O of the problems with Dintif Feng is that it is not the best, it's really solid and it's very consistent and it's the best really expensive Very expensive compared to premiwhere else. So expensive. Like I pay practically nothing for those ones down the street I watch them make them They taste Freaking incredible And then Dint Tai Feng is like, it's fine And to be clear, I didn't say bad. I just said callall it. oververrated becausecause people just like cream their freaking pants talking about how amazing Din Tai Feng is and I'm like Yeah, it's good, but like It better be the best thing ever at that price and with that reputation and with that long of a wait to get into it Yeah, like I know people say like, oh, if you're coming to Taipei, you have to get in Tai Feng No, you don't say no. If you're going to Tapei, you should get really good soup dumplings. Yes. some really good Zaolg Bao Yeah, and like I've had better beef noodles pl I've had better beef noodles, like many, many times. I would say Dintai Feng is like A solid B minus for beef noodles. Yes. That sounds about right. Like it's everything there other than their dumplings or kind of whatever. It's fine It's also incredibly consistent I don't know if I've been basically anywhere that's as consistent as Dinti phg is Which makes it pretty good It's also it's highly unoffensive and it's extremely consistent. So it makes it pretty good for like meetings. Yeah, It's kind of western friendly. like they have something to eat for the people in your party. Bically everyone Don'tat seafood or you know, whatever It's one of the easiest things to be like, oh, we have like ten people and we all need to get dinner What is a place we can all agree on? and usually that place does work Yeah Qion for whoever feels like answering. Do you guys ever think we will have a solution for kernel level anti cheat on Linux? If yes, what can it be? Will I ever see LL or BF running on Arch by the way Okay, I got an absolute wall of text about our discussion regarding annti cheat on Linux. A couple of weeks ago Whoa. fromrom someone who was very upset about it like seriously I'm still going Um, And I got some of my stuff taken pretty dramatically out of context on that topic. Basically the take was There's Really good tools in Linux for managing all of this. and it wouldn't be necessary to have kernel level anti cheat. on Linux because of like how how well You know, managed it is But I acknowledge that no current distro has actually implemented this level of of lockdown that would give developers the confidence to to do it. so it's maybe something for it to figure out later or something. was I read the whole thing, but it was like a week ago or something like that. when did I read this? Yeah, I read this about a week ago and I was just like, okay. so basically nothing that Luaride said about the unlikelihood of this happening due to the very open nature of Linux is actually untrue Um because The Linux crowd is very like know, own your hardware, do whatever you want with your hardware. Oh, by the way, also your software too. The likelihood of this kind of a distro existing seems very Hello Um Yeahah, it's I don't know. the cheating situation is Really, really bad. right now. All shooter games rampant with it Usually when shooter games have an open beta for a weekend peopleople are found rage seating on that one weekend. Like it's it's It's wild. Sooter games are basically cooked Um counter strike lobbies are just riddled with cheaters all the time. There was a massive bandwave recently. I was all pissed over Tarkov years ago Um And then lo and behold, it just turned out it's every shooter game. just has cheaters everywhere. They're also highly prevalent in like basically every other game. Cheating is really brutal and really rampant right now and it's honestly like ruining competitive multiplayer gaming Um Are you sure you're not just unk Actually, yes. The cheating situation is way worse than ever. The reason why the cheating situation is way worse than ever is because money is highly involved now U There's so much the problem which is just crazy. the reason the only reason why I'm sure not just unk to be clear because I could be is because I watch people like Shroud. I think I talked about this on Wan S show before. Shroud went back and played counter strike. Are you sure Shrouds not serervers Shroud is not on. Shroud is still a god. I'm kiding shhrou. I'm just kidding When Troud stops being a god, I'll probably be dead. But Shw went back and played counter Strike on Normal servers and there was a cheater in like literally every loby who was in. it's actually just It's insane. So It's a touchy subject and having Wse anti cheat on Linux when the situation is as bad as it is Um And can suck for some people, especially when it's like an uneven playing field of anti cheat, if that makes sense. where you can play the game on Windows or Linux, but the Linux one has like less anti cheat than the Windows one does. which could bring a bad reputation to Linux because then there's a higher chance u higher perceived chance that the cheers might be running Linux. I don't know, it's a tough situation. I also am highly acutely aware that these kernel level anti cheats exist in the environment of, oh my God, we've never seen this many cheaters before. So clearly they're not working anyways It's It's a tough spot. I think there's a lot of people that don't want kernel level anti cheat coming to Linux and I can sure understand that Hello I don't know how we solve the cheating problem. U I know that right now the main way that anti sheet systems are getting on Linux Is there just more lacks but they are on windows. or at least I believe that's what's happening Um Again, I don't really know if it matters that much if Most of these cheats are getting around these systems anyways. Just to clarify from my wall of text, nothing would prevent a regular Distro and game developers from implementing it. but W all that context and there was a lot I'd say you might even be right in that who knows if companies will want to put in the time to make these things work O Yeah So B Yeah. I don immortal is saying. I think cheaters sorry, I think we've got some lag issues. I think cheaters are also spoofing being on Linux to get a lower anti cheat even when they're on windows Um, I don I don't know. It's just again, I don't even know if it matters. Like have we have this insane cheating problem And we have cururdle level anti cheap. So it's like I don't know if it helps. I was reading an article recently saying it's gonna move like even higher up There I forget what even space we're in above kernel Um Lower Hold on. There's no way I'm going to be able to find this article right now Forget it. Yeah. Denrick is saying BF six had like a day one of beta cheat U There's someone else saying that Arc Raiders is a rampant cheating problem right now. It's what I'm finding is with basically every shooter game. You have to wait for like with Tarkov, you have to basically wait for a wipe and then you can play for a couple of months and then it gets too bad U With other games, you have to wait for like a bandwave or some major release and then you can play for a little bit and then it will get too bad. U, It's like the gaps between bandwaves are basically just unplayable Um and and it's kind of interesting because it's making this like cycle first person shooter games where people will jump from game to game in between these band waves and like what an insane situation Um Griffon says firmware antteichat. Yeah, I think it was like at the firmware level, but I forget how they were trying to implement that. I forget what that was supposed to look like Um, and I don't want to get anything wrong, but it was like it was like even deeper embedded into the system and I just I forget what what the kind of plan was what the direction we were going was. And I mean, again, all of this is sort of a it's an it's a it's a it's a it's an arms race that can never be won becausecause in the age of machine vision and robotic arms, which is coming, you will be able to cheat without any software installed on the system. at all. att some point You know, if you build a perfect anti cheat Someone will build a robot arm emulates the slight you know, movement of a human hand but then just moves as quickly as possible to I don't understand why people even want this as someone who just plays games for the fun of actually competing against people. I don't understand why people are paying for this But if someone will pay for a software that moves the crosshair to their opponent then I see no reason why they wouldn't also pay for a hardware that moves their mouse across their mouse pad that moves the crosshair to the opponent. It seems And they play they will pay a ton of money for that thing that You don't understand why they would pay for it. Some of these cheats are incredibly expensive and subscription basis as well U That was uncovered when People are diving into the Tarkov stuff. People are paying hundreds of dollars a month Charge Nuclei says just pay a better player to play the game for you Only trillionaires can afford that sort of thing Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that also happens U S more for you Yeah, I have me. Hi, bad cholesterol. Luke, any cool techy tours you've been on that you can talk about Becky tours Hm Yes, absolutely. I don't know how much I can say about them. We got to see Intel's Performance Testing lab M That was really cool. We got to see some stuff at Qualcom. That was really cool We got to see More recently Some of the people from the lab went down to Puget Systems to see some of their like lab stuff, similar to ours and talkks shhop for a while. That was really awesome. It was interesting to see kindind of the differences Uh, because they have they have a different use case for their lab than ours. They're mostly interested in testing hardware that they will be selling, if that makes sense. So there's kind of a narrower scope of the things that they need to test We're also testing like patches of things to see if anything major changes or if things break or whatever. it's very interesting. differentnt goals, but very interesting Um I really say about them. It's been Very surprising to me O. Iott to frame this in the right way. Yeah, it's been very surprising to me how close Tech YouTubers are to some of these really big companies. in regards to their testing capabilities Oh, yeah It's I didn't realize how advanced the tech YouTube space was, to be completely honest. I was expecting walking into some of these big companies, seeing their performance testing labs and evaluation labs and like Have my brain explode And I walked in there and was like Okay, I mean, I recognize most of this. There was some weird stuff. I'm going to start getting more vague about where we were because I'm talking about areas that I wasn't able to bring a camera there was some stuff that got into like the radio side of things. Um like wireless technologies that got a little like Okay, that's interesting. Yeah. And testing of like cameras and camera software and stuff that also got pretty outside of the wheelhouse of what I've seen from obviously us included, but tech YouTubers in general Um But in regards to like standard performance As soon as you walk into like a failure analysis lab, you're going to see single pieces of equipment that are worth more than our entire lab, including the building Yeah like we ain't doing that. There' there's no stuff. But when we're talking about performance testing, measuring frame rates They're at the mercy of They're at the mercy of software providers like Max on the same way that we are to provide a usable benchmark. Um It's an industry wide challenge Yeah, it's interesting. Message to Linus. How happy were you when Apple admitted that IOS twenty six was clow and buggy Proving that it wasn't a skill issue. Listen, I knew it wasn't a skilly issue already because like I didn't do anything and it would just have all these problems But I I don't know, the Apple Faithful who just like glaze them endlessly are never going, even when Apple themselves says it, they'll find a way to excuse it.. I wasn't even giving Apple a particularly hard time about it I basically was just like, I expect more from Apple. This is as bad as like a buggy Android release and I got like crucified for it. So yeah. I know I knew I was right because I had so many bad experiences with it and Yvonne is like at this point She asked me to get her in Android We almost went shopping for it in Taiwan, and then the tech mall that we were at didn't have any phone stores. So we were going to just shoot an impromptu video of me buying a phone for her. but There were no stores Yeah man, she might like the experience Dude. I hate buying no Eperence. Do you ever see how much those cost? I could buy her jewelry for that kind of money Oh yeah, they are crazy things. What's up with that man? Yeah. They're good. shut. U That' so expensive though. That's why you buy last year's model or get one from a coworker I still haven't, I still haven't wiped it I got it caught up because my steam guard was still on the old one And if I hadn't done that, would' have been absolutely hooooked. Oh geez. Et Zem, No, there is no difference between high end and low end Apple devices. and I'm not definitely right about the lower end of things. I had a freaking the latest iPhone. What are you talking about This is what I'm talking about. stop just stop engaging Yeah, move on. move on. Nxt one. Hi, LL and D. The IT department of the school I work at is restricting the use of muse score because it's open source. How would you explain or convince someone the safety of a long established project? Point at their phone. If they run an Android, you say, hey, that's based on the AOSP, an open source project. way to relax What are they talking about They are in the pocket of Sebelius What's music score is I'm assuming this is some music thing? Yeah It's a music notation soft Okay Free sheet music. That is the worst dude. scores What are we talking about? Grady. Tell them to ask an AI. Wait, this is the IT department. They should know better That's what makes it no, no, no, no, noothering me. No, no, no, no, no no. There's some other reason That is not the real reason and they're just not telling you the real reason. So You may never be able to find out the real reason, but until you know the real reason, you won't be able to make any argument or explain anything So that's's that's the situation you're in right now. There's no way that an IT department at a school Who knows enough about IT to be running the IT department at of school does not know about open source Like there's just no way. I was Not knowing what Musecore was, I thought I misinterpreted that for a second and they banned the use of Musecore because there was some other open source one that they wanted you to use And that would have made like more sense to me as a educational institution, but My school IT department gave us all a local admin That's fun. Maybe they just wanted you to learn things rapidly U yeah, o, next one. Hello LDL. Wing today while painting my nursery for my first kid Doo this month Any DIY painter tips Slash first time dad advice Well, don't mix up the paint with the babies Babies and paint are not a good combination. so I think it's great that you're, you know, o, do this month. Oh, dude Ah You needed to paint this like a month ago, The fumes are not going to be good. You need to get on it, finish it this weekend and then run a fan in there Like continuously, don't put the baby in there for a little bit Um, so there there's one I got one for you. There's a tip. Um What else we got here Yeah, it's good enough. Yeahep. Hello hell D and lowercase L. With how easy AI generation of creators has become, what advice do you have for FEM creators to protect themselves Uh I mean, I wish I could offer some advice on that. I don't know how to protect ourselves I think I think I mentioned this last WN show, but I was chatting with an automotive creator And they were saying like, oh yeah, no, like AI generated slop is like a real challenge for our space. And I was like Sorry, why Um and they were basically just like, because you can just generate cars doing like crazy stunts and people the same At the end of the day, it's zero sum, right? Like people have a finite amount of eyeball time per day And every minute they spend looking at AI slop of you know a goat car you know, drifting around a supermodel or whatever is time that they're not spending looking at the content that was made by real people with, you know, real cars or whatever. and It was something that I hadn't really thoughtought about enough. yeah, like I'm aware of the concept of that like when the Super Bowl is on, actually YouTube viewership goes down, you know, L I know these things, but the scale at which this just sort of generated garbage content is being produced now is it's like the Super Bowl running all the time compared to or sorry, something running all the time, taking that attention away from Um you know, real life creators and I don't have, u I don't have good advice for how to safeguard ourselves from F AI and from generated content in any form, whether it's broad challenges of attention being sucked away or whether it's more specifically, you know fem niche or tech niche or car niche or whatever niche it is I think I think being explicit with your audience about what you're okay with and what you're not is genuinely helpful. Like you've made it clear a number of times that you're It's actually not cool with your' AI lieness being used Um Your audience can be surprisingly helpful in these situations. of just because you can't be everywhere, but people that know what you're okay with can be many places. I don't know, weird sentence, but As long as those people can point it out, as long as those people can report it, it can be really helpful I've seen it before. so A couple more for you. Hey, Linus, are there ever any hardware, I guess hardware stuff that you fear will be taken off the market or scalped because of a shout out you've made. Yeah, sure. I actually checked this one ahead of time and I had a couple ready for you. I'm a big fan of the Rockat Sova lapboard. It's in my opinion, the best lap board. Oh yeah, we have them all over the place. Well, it's because I bought a couple of them because I knew that Rockette was going away and it was discontinued Um And it' these are both parts only for fifty five and eighty five dollars respectively Okay, I might have already done it then. They used to be a little easier to get your hands on. I have like three of them just in case they die And then another one is optaine Dude, opte is Yeah. is goaded and especially feels especially relevant today if only until a Micron could have held it together long enough to meet the demands of the AI boom. They wouldnt They would literally not be able to Optaine on the shelf right now The demand would be astronomical, and it would also have been such a huge competitive advantage for their server. hardware that would be compatible with like obptane dims and stuff. Oh my God, Optane was such a It was like the biggest missed opportunity of the last ten years in tech, in my opinion Okay, that's that's a huge statement, but it's it's up there It's up there from like a financial standpoint. The missed opportunity here is like Men Intel just can't miss an opportunity to miss over the last little bit and Optane was by far the biggest one And last one I got for you. Hey Linus, what is your opinion on the new Final Fantasy resonance that was recently announced U My only opinion on it is that it's finally time Once it comes out for me to play these damn games, I refuse to play part one of a series before The rest of it, I still have not read Game of Thrones because I am waiting for George R. R. Martin to finish writing these damn books which it seems like he will never do I read the first one And then I was like, wait, he's not done writing them. that. And I stopped reading them. And u It's so funny. I'll wait. I bought a box out of them and then realized he wasn't donewiting it, so never opened it. Why are we so similar? I was he you describe this and then like the same series? Oh, that was pretty good Oh man. For what it's worth, the first book's great Yeah, no, I'm looking forward to it. Yeahes. Yeah You guys. That's all. I don't like getting into shows that aren't done either. I procrastinate through the entire Game of Thrones TV series And I felt so good that I was behind the entire curve Yeah. Anyway, that's all I got. All right, That's all I got. thenen we will see you guys next week. sameame bad time, sameame bad channel. Are we going to manage to both be here in studio next week? I think it's been almost a month I'm there in studio. I think are you there in studio Nice. I think we're all here then. All right, goodood stuff. Nice See you guys bye