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Absolutely freaking everything. That was the longest keynote I have ever watched bothoth in terms of how many hours long it was and in terms of how deep my existential dread became as it progressed deeper and deeper and deeper. Also, I get a bonus topic for this week because I really want Luke to talk about it. He said, we're probably not going to talk about it, but he set something up not that interesting. Well not interesting enough. You got to sell it a little harder. We We're drumming up excitement for the show. There' be enough other topics. we just a bonus one. It's Plex's turn to act like Ubisoft and they do be digging. The lifetime pass for Plex pass went up lot And I've never heard more people talking about Jellyfin. So that's an interesting combination. Also, the US cybersecurity agency or a U US cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency known as CISA, there we go, left their digital keys out in public on GitHub. Very cool, good move. Ver good move Embarrassing.' very interesting The show is brought to you today by Op Manager Nexus Motion Gray, yougreen and Ridge alongside our rap partner Dbrand, our laptop partner Razor and our chair partner also Razor, who I might note I miss quite a lot when I do not have their chair. The last one I sat in was extraordinarily uncomfortable Let's jump right into so long Copilot key. These notes are brought to you by Um One of our writers who wrote two whole lines about this Microsoft has confirmed that in a future Windows eleven update, users will get the option to remap the co pilot key. This is on top of one of the topics from Tech Linked, which I hosted today where they are removing their little co pilot button that was in Office three hundred and sixty apps and was just getting in people's way, does it Is it starting to feel like Microsoft is getting the message that users do not want to have this stuff crammed down their throats. And that customizability and having the machine do what I want it to do when I do something is more important than whatever agenda it is that they're trying to advance. Yeah, I think it's like the way the question was worded was like, are the cracks showing that A I might not be what the people want? And I don't think that's No, it doesn't seem to be accurate. but forcing people to use it and forcing people to use it in a particular way both seem like something that is highly unpopular. If If you let people have more agency in how they use it, if you could bind that key to be an AI button and especially if you could bind it to be an AI button in a way that you might want it to work then that could be an interesting combination. It's Windows. it should be more of an open platform than it feels like these days. If I could bind that to launch I don't know, clod or something Instead of whatever they want it to do, that would feel better. I'd love to bind it to dictation It's wild to that on the good idea. The most powerful of the platforms out of all the computers that I carry with me every day The one that doesn't have a quick easy access single button for me to just yap at it and then have whatever I'm saying appear in text without sort of jumping through hoops or configuring something specially to do that is is Crazy. It's crazy how easy it is here and here and how much of a hassle it is to set up here. But no, just like a system wide voice to text would be extraordinarily convenient. That's something I could see myself rebinding coopilot to. just press and hold and then sort of Yap at it, like my phone is an old timey eighties secretary or something like that and I'm on the intercom. That would be amazing. And so I welcome Every, look We've gone pretty hard at Microsoft over the last few years fver, really, if you think about it And so I just want to make sure that if they're actually serious about this and if they're really trying to do better every step of the way, we are also there. Yeah with the same level of energy that we sort of jeered at them as they decayed into horribless. I don't know about that. I think we should be well It's positive newews Wand show. so we're going to have to. But I don't think it has to be the same level of energy. We should be there enthusiastically cheering them on. This is good. They did a good move as they make their way back I'm not going to stand and. You're not going to stand in chair. No for desertification. Yeah Well, I'll stand and chair and you can sit in chair abbsolute minimum. And we'll be the same height. So no one will know you're not standing. for doing the absolute minimum, I'm not going to stand in chair. But I' work out pretty good five I will openly say that this is good and I'm happy they did it. Most people don't know this, but I am actually exactly the same height whether I sit in a chair or not Oh my Godd. That was pretty good actually. U Okay Is that is that as we move on? I think that's pretty much all I have. You to you Old McGrugal had a keynote at AIO? I think I think I do. I think I do. And the way that I'm spinning this into good newews Wan show is definitely the reception that the internet had to this. To be clear, I still think that Google's baking of AI into absolutely freaking everything is pretty scary and would also qualify for a bad news lN show. other than sponsored like paid view videos I don't think I have ever seen a video with such a low interaction to view ratio That was I think I think when I ran the numbers when I was writing up the intro for it, it worked out to something like zero point zero five percent of the people who watched it were like, Thumbs up this I think it could have been viewbotted U or like advertiser views or whatever. I think it's very unlikely Be many how many people do they say we werere live Lve watching Oh, I don't remember how many people were live Or rather, I wasn't there live. I watched it after the vod, I watched it like three hs ag. How how many views was it at Uh It was six point eight million do or something like that. That's I don't know. I mean, last year's Google IO did four point something or five pointone might have had advertiser pumper too Hm I't know. I mean, hey, maybe this is something for floatple chad. didid any of you like see an ad to watch it Like were you were you drawn in by an ad U I don't know if my float plane chat is scrolling right now. Oh, yeah, it is. No No one, no one found that Nope, didn't see anything. and like realistically, Google IO is big news. Like I also saw it like flipping everywhere. Recaps of it are getting lots of views. ours did Like I think people are okay Google is at the scale now where people are genuinely just real frigin interested when they do something. And boy, did they ever do a lot? Let's talk through Not even all of what they showed and announced. Did you watch the keynote by any chance? U No, but I've sted a lot of information from it. Y. Okay, so Gemini three point five. they kicked off their newest family of AI models, starting with Gemini three point five Fash, which is available now. and they talked a little bit about Gemini three point five Pro, which is going to be launching next month. The new model's claim to fame is that it is faster and better at aentic task. So this is the kinds of tasks that Previously on my vibe coding adventure, the various AIs that I talked to, especially you openen AI, lied to me about and told me that they could do, go and work on things in the background and then come back and report to me when they're done That is what Egentech or AI agents actually do. and they can be used for all kinds of really useful things like one of the uses that Google highlighted was I can't believe that we're just talking about this openly now, but tickets helping Like They were like, Hey, if you want to make sure that you get floor tickets for that concert or whatever, you can just have your AI agent Let you know when some product is in stock or when some concert ticket is available and it'll go and buy it for you and then everything will be fine. Can't deal with all the scalper bots out there. if you can't fight them. join them, I guess, right? Oh come on reallyally man. o So It's going to get even more impossible to get a limited edition, anything or a ticket for anything that anyone wants to see Unless you unless you have an AI agent. That's great They also announced Gemini Omni, a new family of models that will generate video clips based on inputs like text, photo, video and audio, and even comombinations of them. and I got to say, I'm pretty sure this was Omni they were showing off at the time, but Did you see the demo where they had the video clip of the lady standing on the car Yes like give me different angles of this. Okay thing. So they didn't give us a close up of it. And really like the devil is in the details with any kind of AI generated anything, right? Like a lot of stuff looks pretty good at first glance and then you know, you look away and then You look back at it closeer and you go,, hold on So they didn't really give us like a really close up look at it, but Boy did those twelve angles look pretty convincing? And then they're like, okay, now make it nighttime I don't know if you remember this. Back when we used to do video productions for U like for brands We once becausecause of the production schedule had to shoot what was supposed to be a nighttime shot during the day. and tools did exist And Ed did kind of figure out how to make it look nighttime But it was this like Horrible Tedious. Painstaking project in order to like get the daytime sky to look nighttime And the fact that they were able to take that clip and just go, okay, make it nightt time I said it I said it I think one thing I know we're only partway through, butah one of my conclusions of this from like I skimmed some articles and st, but I didn't actually watch the whole keyote. been pretty busy was Every time so far that we've had one of these like AI keynotes where they say effectively that the world is falling and you're all done and there's no more jobs anymore get owned And then the stuff releases and everyone's like, okay. Yeah, here's here's JFC one hundred and twenty three's review OMG three point five flash is terrible I tried it Thursday and it felt like the last version of dinner for coding I might be spoiled though, because ninet nine percent of the time I'm using opus high reasoning. U I mean I do think most of the point of three point five flash is being fast. Yeah. Yeah, is it going be is it going to be like our doom and nobody has jobs anymore? No, no, probably not. I don't think so. I've also heard that echoed from some other people, but like I wouldn't be surprised if this like continual march of it being harder for juniors in basic in a ton of different, especially white color fields to get jobs. I do think that continontinue But I think we're very, very far out from these things replacing senior doves AJ Gistzero seven zero two says three point five flash is much better than three flash at the very least. So that's ye, hey, I mean, that's something Um In other news, Gemini Spark. It's open claw, but Google An AI agent that can command other AI agents and interact with Google Wkspace apps This one is one Act sounds pretty interesting. That unlike the vast majority of other Google stage demos where they're like, o yeah, you'll be able to have your AI assistant call your hairdresser and they'll make an appointment for you. And I'm going to keep bringing that up until that's actually a thing, which by the way, it will never be because No AI can make a decision for you about where you will be in the physical world like in the future. 'cause it just won't know all that stuff. unless, oh, yeah, I could be wear the glasses.robably already doing. And like it's o, you know what? fine. but For unless you obsessively manage your life. throughrough your calendar and your AI, it's just like not going to be a thing U Som I'm going to keep bringing that up because it was just kind of a joke of a demo and they made that announcement years before We were we were going to have any hope of them being capable of that sort of thing. I mean, I tried to I tried to set an alarm for myself yesterday. Um that was Uh Oh yeah, it was it was at some time remind me to get that baseball bat for Ariana. and it just like completely butchered it. I can't It's not here, it's not in it's deleted now because I dismissed it. but it was like not even close. And I asked the person standing next to me, I was like Did I did I speak with reduced clarity I know I got braces, but really this and they werere like, no, you were very understandable. That's crazy Um Anyway Jem and Ipark with integration into Google Worspace was the first time I've seen one of these Google demos and I've gone, okay That does actually seem potentially feasible If it can do that, I'm going to use the crap out of it. Yeah. because like The example that they gave managing RSVPs for a party is exactly the sort of tedious non work that someome stupid AI agent could go do for me and go find all the emails pertaining to that and then dump into a spreadsheet along with what they're planning to bring for the party. and it would actually save me work That is unless After it creates that spreadsheet I have to go back and read all those emails because I'm sure that, you know A boun castle dog's got a hamburger. A bouncy castle is not what they're bringing to eat. You know, like I'm I want it I want it to be good And I'm going to try it. I will try it. I just I've never seen a Google demo like this that has turned out quite the way that they demo it in the real world. What subscription to do you need for Spark h It might be separate I don't know good thing for you to look up in the meantime, doing it. They made their AI plan cheaper. It was two hundred and fifty dollars a month but now starts at one hundred dollars a month U However Free AI usage is now more limited. There are weekly hard caps on usage for free models with a smaller rolling five hour cap And it's now based on compute used rather than on number of prompts So more complex prompts or using more capable models will cause you to reach your limit faster. This is this seems highly related one of the things that I talked about in the the worst might be over video where I talked about how RAM prices might not continue to get worse and might actually rebound a little bit. It does seem like The bean counters have woken up. and gone Pardon we're spending how much And sorry, where's the revenue? How much? yeah, exactly yeah. This is sorry, this is bit This is like This is just pure like space race euphoria. U and there is no guarantee that the moon is actually made of delicious cheese. Like can we Can we pump the brakes a little here? There's no proof loop. It is. We've been through this. Yeah And I believe you know you believe that. And I believe that you're right. I do believe you How do you not want rocket fondue? I'm just saying there's no proof. Imagine it just raining from the head. You can't have fun without rocket fondue. I'm with you, a hundred percent loouth. Yeah But there's no proof of it. And that's going to make the counter That's going to make the bean counters nervous. See, I'm not the kind of guy who gets nervous about that. I'm the kind of guy who buys a fire truck and figures out the economics later. I'm with you. I'm here with you Yeah, But this reinfor but this reinforces my point that As soon as and what basically what I said is as soon as somebody blinks And the pressure comes off to kind of like, Be the one with the biggest AI data center penis you know, at the end of it, Um Then the pressure come then then there's no longer a reason for everyone else to build so fast U I mean, and another thing that I think, again, sort of reinforces but then also contradicts my point is I don't know if you saw this recently, but XAI Elon's Elon's thing where he was likethropic buuilt a data center and didn't actually like have a plan for it, but he like got all the GPU's and like built the data center. Yeah is is renting out, as far as I can tell, their entire capacity to anthropic So clearly, some of this irresponsible buildout, some companies are finally looking at it and going, sorry, why are we building this Why did we build that? Anthropic will pay Elon Musk' SpaceX one point two five billion a month over the next three years. However, meanwhile, the ones that are actually managing to make money clearly do not have enough capacity want more capacity and there's big money in that. I think my only question is How much did that data center cost and is one point something billion a month over the next three years actually sounds like a lot of money, It does sound like a lot of money, but building that dataenter also costs a lot of cost a RAM. Yeahah, I'll look into it. I mean, RAM GPUs Real estate like there's there's an ongoing cost to continuing to operate that data center as well. U JFC one hundred twenty three says, Yeahah, but anthropic is making money. Yes, they are are they making money? I know that they are making lots of revenue and it's growing really fast, but I don't think Anthropic is actually profitable is anthropic profitable. I don't believe so Anthropic on from two days ago Anthropic projecting its first profitable quarter this quarter, apparently That would be pretty wild. That would make them the first ure AI compomany to reach profitability. I believe that is that correct? Does anyone know of any other ones? I mean, Nvidia, I'm not quite counting because they're a shvel seller. Yeah, the shovel They're not a minor. The shovels don't count. They're all making tons of money U reen economy is going boom. Productivity says we don't know they are private. That is true. But a lot of them for private companies are awfully public about what exactly it is that they're doing because that I mean, they're hoping to go public at some point. You know there's been a lot of economic focused people talking recently about how it's an interesting wealth transfer from these like software companies and software focused investors to hardware companies. An interesting subplot of that to me is the insane wealth transfer out of the US specifically because Micron, SK Henix, Samsung Uh, you know, a lot of Nidos stuff, they're an American company, but a lot of their stuff., Micron's American Are they arere they manufacturing in America? I believe so. Oh are they? I didn't know There's Micron Fab Locations, micron. Taiwan, Japan, Singapore, hold on a second. well, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. hereere we go. But they also have ones in the States, it seems like Americas all over the place Pacific Yeah, I think it's mostly outside of But then I don't know the capacity of each one. so maybe they have more capacity in the states. Maybe the ones in APAC are smaller. Virginia and Idaho are apparently big fabs. Yeah, okay. I don't know but either way. Yeah, everyone else you named though, think I think I heard you everyone else is out inside. You in big bunku bucks. Oh, that actually leads us to another topic. You know what, let's finish this one first, but Samsung speaking of bonku bucks. narrowly avoided bankrupt bucks, No well not bankrupt, but the opposite of Bonub, whatever, we'll get to it Uject Pject R know smmart glasses in collaboration with Xreel. Google announced an updated version of these glasses that was shown at the conference relelatively slim look and form factor and this is enabled by a detachable compute puck that will fit in the user's pocket I I think Apple tried really hard to make a whole Tether to a thing in your pocket paradigm work. If Apple couldn't make it work, I wish Google luck. Our vision from twenty thirteen will happen eventually Oh, the backpack? No, you and I were talking about how Compute for smart devices like watches and glasses and stuff like that should be a compute pck in your pocket. like all your different wearables and whatnot could could communicate with and stuff that we talk about that in the garage And there's no real reason why you couldn't if you do because U L I've been playing around with those metaglasses still a little bit and the resolution is pretty low. The latency doesn't really matter. Im not I'm not gaming on it Right? So so the as long as we could get the power consumption of video transmission down then there's no good reason to have the compute on on my face Why would I do that? The compute should just be the computer that I'm already holding. and then it should just do video transmission. It'd be way better for battery life. it would be way better for the power of that device because like I wouldn't want to wear this on my head. D know Yeah Gilmore Dee said, like your watch would be a dummy terminal. It's like Yeahah Yeah, probably it probably should be already. Yeah This is so inconvenient. You're pretty good at balancing it though. Thank you. Good job Thank you It's my one talent Oh that's your w talent. St stop catching It would have been so cool if I did catch it though. It would have been pretty c that would never happen. I don't think the and this makes me sad Although it's not like that much better having Google do it if it is at all, it might be worse. But I don't think the Google glasses look as good as the Madal ones You know what? That's my last attempt at pet Google seearch is getting more AI integration. It's been changed to be better at natural language prompts, creating a simpler user experience. So search agents will also be able to monitor twenty four seven for specific information to track changes like stock market movements or even shopping listings for price drops And then we're also going to have aentic coding in search. So Google seearch will create small applets that could make visualizations, for instance, to help a user understand a certain topic They also plan on letting users create apps and dashboards within search. Why? Because you can. This is another one that I actually was like watching the demos for and I was like, that looks really cool if only I could trust it. Like it they they they they generated this like thing to explain gravity waves. And I was like, wow, that looks really cool If only I believed that that visualization was accurate, Then this would be the neatest thing ever But then I didn't. And so and to like verify that it is, you'd have to go look up someone else who didid it already. Who you trust? Yeah Yeah And like I get the argument that, you know they have to build all this stuff now so that when the AI gets a little bit better and is more trustworthy, they'll already have the tools and the interface all figured out and it's going to be great with so much of the data Inestation. We're so far from that. Being potentially snake eating its own tail AI generated slop I just don't know how we're going to reach accurate AI And I'd love to be wrong about that. honestly, I would The promise of AI is often on full display for me where I'll like use it for something and I'll go whoa This is ninety eight percent of what I wanted it to be And and but it's just that that last it's like self driving whereere that last couple percent is I really, really hard. I also don't think we're on the right path to solve that And I'm not the only one that feels that way Wh's doing predictive text? So do you think LOMs are a dead end? Yeah D I mean, well, dead a dead end to like the path to AGI. the path to a truly useful intelligence. I think they'll be a part of the equation in the end, but like So what would think it's I don't think this is like, oh, we can just keep walking in this exactly straight line and we'll get there. Like I don't think that's the c. are you thinking it's like more along the lines of like, you know, organic chips where they're like built ne on Spooky stuff going on there right now. Oh I know I know it. Yeah So I honestly don't know But I just think the fundamental idea of predicting the next thing is not going to get us to AGI Yeah, sorry'm just I'm just thinking because I'm also not an AGI researcher and effectively know nothing. so we'll see how it goes. Yeah, there it is Wh I was on it. somethingomet that we do know about Apple do be good at setting the market pace. A Sus and HP unveil whoa, A SS and HP unveil widecat lake wildcat lake laptops startarting at four hundred and forty nine to rival Apple's MacBook No. The first wave of those laptops is launching in China. where OEMs like ASUS HP and Oter are rolling out some models before they're expected to become available globally. These thin and light laptops are aimed squarely at the budget and mainstream laptop market, seemingly in an attempt to make Windows laptops feel more like a MacBook No, especially considering their four hundred fifty to seven hundred dollars price range. Sal of these several of these new Windows laptops feature sixteen gigs of RAM and five hundred and twelve gigs of storage Both of these specs are twice what's seen in the MacBook Neo, more RAM than any MacBook Neo is available with. Intel's project Firefly is a push to standardize and simplify laptop design across its ecosystem, pairing wildcat lake chips with shared blueprint a shared blueprint, o. so OEMs can build low cost laptops at scale Intel is leaning heavily on China to China's mature smartphone style supply chain with modular components, unified layouts, and early manufacturing partnerships enabling the creation of these affordable laptops that should compete with Apple's entry level MacBook segment However, it is worth noting. that Intel is reportedly pushing PC manufacturers in the US, China, and Taiwan to adopt its more expensive new eighteen A based processors instead of the cheaper Intel seven based Alder Lake Raptor Lake and Aerr Lake CPU's I don't think If I can just throw a bet out there of zero dollars, I don't think these are going to pass the MacBook No Sniff test Um they sound like they're coming in cheaper and with some better specs, so they'll win people over, but be like pick up the neo and your jaw drops because you're like there's no way they made something this nice for this much money is not going to land I can almost guarantee there's no way they're doing the like aluminum body stuff that Apple did. I just, I don't believe it. They're going to be plastic. You're going to grab it like this and do that and it's going to bend like a sheet of paper. Um Also, Windows is just like hungrier than Mac So I think a lot of Mac people will hear that, oh, okay, it has way more RAM and they'll be like, that's pretty cool. I'd like to have more RAM. Mine's fine, though . Okay U I'm aware of one, whoops I'm aware of one but I haven't seen it in person yet. that could be L like maybe the Build quality nice What a sentence? However, however price Not No Like good. Oh, okay. Close Okay and Ram Four So Basically what I'm trying to say is I think it's going to be a little bit more complicated at the very least I think it's going to be a little bit more complicated than No wins forever But we. we had to know that was going happen. And if these are like the cheaper ones because this is actually decently cheaper. Oh yeah So if these are the cheaper ones And then And then there's that one, which is more expensive. Yeah but similar build quality and better components, then that's cool because now there's a range and you can kind of pick within it. And what we know for sure what we can say with absolute certainty is that The No made the rest of the industry react and that the rest of the industry could have built higher quality laptops for this price before and didn't because they didn't have pressure from Apple. So I'm going to do something that I only do every once in a while and I'm going to say Thank you, Apple. Thanks Apple. Thank you very much. Appreciate it Apple for kind of like you did with HDR displays on tablets and high refresh rate displays on portable electronics and high DPI displays and metal chassis and all the other cool cool fun colors. Shout out are one of our sponsors for the show that we're going to talk about later with this cool transparent purple battery bank Thank you for pushing the industry to to do the things that they could have done that you gave them a reason when the price of just Every' just skyrocketing to do this was a surprise And a welcome one. Dauty Von wants new laptop No? No, no, no No way she's going to go m o, she is like going through it with her iPhone right now She apparently at some point enabled u like a data saving feature on her iPhone leaves your full quality files in iCloud and then only Um low quality low versions. Yeah and then did not at any point U Any other than a free iCloud subscription And so now she has lost Mth Of high quality photos. She has now been to the Apple store twice over the last few days Um And as far as we can tell Only the low quality proxies exist. But neither of us can figure out exactly how this came to be because only ever had a free five gig ter. So the only thing it should ever have been able to back up is whatever it backed up. And other than what it up it should only have been able to it should have kept everything else local to the device because it wouldn't have been able to back it up So I'm not yeah, Il Belrid says what? that should never have happened. Yeah, it shouldn't have And it's possible that there's some user error in here I haven't been paying attention to exactly out what she's been doing, but There's a few things. So one is I've kind of I've sent her off to kind of figure this out with Apple because I'm not an Apple ecosystem expert. don' I don't know it that well and this is one of those times when I'm grateful that the genius bar exists, maybe. hopefully, I don't know. I don't know what they're going to be able to resolve But the other thing that it has sprung me into action on is getting image set up once and for all because we got it kind of like set up last time But it was like kind of a hassle and then it kind of broke and stuff But now HexOS has like a one touch, not one touch, but like an easy install, easy setup for image that Nate actually used during his AMD ultimate tech upgrade And I couldn't believe how easy it was after having gone through setting it up before the hard way on True Nz I was like, This is insane how easy this was. I think I think some more content on like containerized hosting couldould be interesting. I don't know how you make it entertaining enough for an LZ video, but I think we can. I mean, Eaineriz hosting is like very approachable these days And Really cool Um, here's a, um This video aying for cloud storage is stupid We just we did a fun we did a fun intro with Riley where An old guy watching TV and It's a viral grab and smash A old people are breaking young people's phones. Oh no. and then Hey, Billy, you know, whatever anyway Um The Point is is that's what we do. I never knew Elijah and a sppinner hat existed, and now I need more Elijah and a sppinner hat in my life. We put an entertaining package around something as boring as building your own NAS. Yeah. And yeah, can I think we could totally put some lipstick on that lecture. Yeah J I think that would be pretty cool because it's like actually really interesting right now. and I think that would be an interesting way to introduce because I don't think we've done any manyline videos on it. intntroduce like local hosting LLMs. Um Yeah we had a conversation about that during Witers's meeting as well. actuallyctually It's supposed to be a topic for WN show today. So why don't we just what are we supposed to be talking about? thought we actually had a really good segue to Plex because you were just talking about We did And we also had a really good segue to another thing earlier that we just didn't take. so I don't know, whatever. Good luck everybody. throwing segways. No, let the. Let's talk about local hosting LMs. Sure. So Nick Harris, that's one of the things that he did for his AMD ultimate tech upgrade and When I kind of grilled them, like I didn't even just ask, I was like, no, but like What are you going to do with it his answer was basically I don't know automate lights and stuff and ask questions And but then also like some more like like Google homeome, like Google Assistantee stuff U and That's cool But it's one of those things that we don't really need to I don we don't really It's not something that I personally need This was I guess what I think I think the thing for me is lo hosting containerized AI stuff is learning how to do it. No that if people know how to do it then they can. And the problem right now is that there has never been a richer environment for harvesting the like essence of who you are than interacting with LLMs. Yeah No no, I know, hold on, hold on. I'm going somewhere with this. So so what I want to know guys is What are you using it for? Because that's that's part of a p for LOMs? What are you using your locally hosted LLMs for I know PewdiePie did a video recently where he like made a local he hosted LOM to help on with like coding and stuff like that. done a lot of them. That's pretty cool Um, But like what are you guys like what are specifically you guys using your locally hosted LOMs and AI containers for he used it to, u Right And I think there's an add on for his browser that like fixed YouTube forum, which kind of brought back the subscription feed and got rid of shorts and did lots of other kind of stuff believe that was his local ither did that U H's cool stuff. My answer would be kind of probably annoying, which would be all of the same stuff that I use models for Um I've talked about on assignment check, sentiment analysis.. idea brainstorming for things. I don't again, I don't tend to use its output, but I will use it to help me get to a point where I am now generating good output is often like trying to start a project or start an idea or kick off something. There's a lot of I don't know how you would describe the time, but like things akin to writer's block where you're just sitting there trying to your brain to slam through whatever the thing you're dealing with U So if I can be like, okay, what are like the basics of this concept that I'm trying to figure out? it can lay those basics out. And then I can go find like YouTube videos or papers or whatever resources to dive off from there. I find that really useful. Yeahah, paralysis over analysis. Yeahah, I'd rather just start cooking on things U And I'm not going to treat the AI output as the be all end all, but I can definitely treat it as a start. Um Okay We've a few we've got a few interesting ones. So home assistant. that's a kind of relatively obvious one. and I think that's very related to what Lake Niaris was doing. I think another really good one, which is the use case we're exploring right now is like if you have a really big task that you could use it to do that you could that it could help you with Doing that in the cloud would be very expensive because it's a lot of work But it's not technically super difficult. So like the fact that most local models are not as advanced as certain things that you get into the cloud, especially with really expensive subscriptions isn't going be a problem necessarily, because this is definitely a task within its capabilities. You would just need to spend a bunch of money doing it in the cloud. You can use your local hardware to do that youre not spending proportionateally more There's a few good ones. Translating or subtitling media libraries is one that chat threw at us Bible stududy. is one that chat through at us running Discord bots. D the court wants to do what What do you guys want to do with them? So like there's so much Yeah, yeah, but like I want to I want to get specific. Let's get speific. the time management. I know some people do that. They'll have a like a sign up form. like say, say I know you used to play left or dead with the with the T bues. Yeah U you could you could have a thing that's like, hey, I want to play Thursday at seven Here's a sign up. We need eight people, first eight people to sign up, click on this thing and it like registers them And people can sign up as like tentative or whatever else. Like there's there's I know that's a thing that exists. There's discord bots for like verifying users. Um There's discord bots for Uh like auto moderator stuff Um Yeah, right. There's there's music bots. sure you could make one of those All right, what else do you guys? we We're being completely honest, a bunch of people have said in the chat they seem to be more comfortable with AIYifu type situations if they are locally hosted.oning Yeah Got it Enerprise resource planning actually Yes. Yes. want If you want a Linux IO it. We are using locally hosted LLMs to pull confidential corporate information out of documents. So document search That one we had on our list already using it to update file names on Linux ISOs So mass file management Okay That's interesting U I have perfectly organized your system. There is nothing there anymore. Therefore there is no clutter. Yeah I mean, that's what a backup, I guess could be. Yeah yeah. I deleted them too. Your backackup is gone. H. Man, Slayer says I'm messing around with them to eventually replace Alexa. See, this is a funny thing because in some ways like I'm very like I'm a tech enthusiast, but in other ways, I'm like so far behind the times I don't use Alexa for anything and have never felt like I had a reason to use Alexa for. I've never been okay with it, but I have been legitimately thinking of we've revitalizing an old project that I had that I was talking to Wendell about years ago. where I was going to try to effectively build my own locally And now it's like way easier. and I know people that have done it Like it's it's before it was like really hard and I was struggling and I eventually gave up. And now there's I know multiple people that have done their own. But to do what? What do you want your Alexa to do All of the things Alexa can do now is you can automate things, you can do voice control stuff for doing the like light controls It keeps coming back to light control. House automation. You could do it for U How much light control do I need in my life? You could do it for call Basically you would use Alexida or whatever you want to call this Jarvis or whatever to call other pree existing methods. So if you had like You could use it to use something else that you would set up that creates calendar events or something. You give them tools,? Yeah, exactly. So it itself isn't really a thing. It calls other tools for you U that aren't necessarily voice controlled. set up calendar events, order something blah, blah, blah, blah, calendar event. I mean, is that really more convenient Order something that way That I can't do. I mean, o man, would I even want to What would I And may again, maybe this is just me being like me me being a little old fashioned here J slight just slightly old fashioned If you can't sit down and what would I want to order on likeike with my voice Tell me something that I wantna order with my voice. The last thing I ordered online was a servo for an RC boat that burned out. My I'm just try my thing is if it's fully local, Yeah, and I can really secure it somehow, which needs more exploration. But Ka if I can feeded everything about me basically walking around the kitchen, can I ask like, what do I need to do in the next four hours And if it can respond over speakers and I can be like doing other things, that's useful. That seems pretty useful But the problem is I would need to feed everything into this thing. Yeah. So it becomes a security nightmare, which is the exact same reason why I have never been down to do it with any open stuff Yeah. And then if I am feeding everything into it, how is that happening without it being connected to the internet I do think there's ways, I've thought of ways a cou a few different ways. They're all kind of whack and sound like a lot of work, which is why it doesn't exist yet But it is possible. The people that I know of that have done this are they're just all connected to the internet. I mean, I think that's probably to be the most useful version of itself it can be, I think that's kind of 's going to probably be a thing. U One that that I thought of a little while ago is Yvonne used to use this reading app called Dream where you like buy additional you buy books chapter at a time U with like credits, so you end up spending like obscene amounts of money if you like get really into a series As far as I could tell, the only thing that made me think that they were not just AI slop was the fact that they had so many spelling errors in them U, Like a lot of them were very like English as a second or third language written. But Yvonne assures me that when she was extremely bored times and wanted to turn her brain off, which to be clear, I don't begrudge her. I have my own turn my brain off things. I watch cartoons That's my like. I am thinking about absolutely nothing right now My brain is off thing to do. So it's like I see them as pretty much equivalent But I was like, hey, this would be cheaper probably if I just had like forty seventy in the basement and just generate another chapter. Um what else what else we got? My best one is the one that monitors my stock portfolio and watches news and headlines to give me text updates through the day. So yeah, local agents to monitor Um news or stocks or whatever That's pretty cool. Again requires like. If your Jarvisy thing, if you're like Alexa, but you built it yourself thing, is monitoring the output of agents, it would also be interesting for it to like effectively notify you. Mmhm. Like it's it's the it's the The central link, it doesn't do a lot of things itself att least the way I would want to got here custom bookmarks Ebeded computing, judging my bottles Oh Okay game bots to farm resources I mean,, should we play games that are Not fun to play though. Maybe we just don't play those games. Is that crazy? is it what is someone's talking about they want their local their local AI to be a game bot to farm resources Just like I don't know, man Man, there's wow, you guys have got lots of ideas. Okaykay, we might have to Wait, do we actually log float planane chat anywhere? No Okay So basically I have to write down everything now Oh Maybe if you had a I. Write that down too Nice. solid Um Okay All right, Okaykay, cool. Well this gives us somewhere this gives us somehere to start. We were point. I don't know. I don't think it's still running But it wasn't like playbackable, like you could watch the stream and have it go back. But there was one point in time where we had logs of chat. might still have it I just haven't looked at them in a very long Yeah, this gives some ideas to kind of bring back to the to the writing team and figure out like how we want to how we want to package it because That That's pretty important. The last thing we want to do is say like, oh, hey, here's this thing and you can totally set one up and then good luck is kind of boring. Yeah. veryery cool Oh, wow. We went for a really long time without ever doing the CW announcements. Let's get those going We have got something extremely special to announce on LT Store this week And this man is wearing it The float planane t shirt is an exclusive drop for float plane members. So if you are a float plane member, this is for you and if you're not It might be time to join for exclusive launches, lower shipping fees with some tiers of floatple membership and early access to events. printed on our classic poolyblelend tea, soft, breathable and prek pre shrunk and is available in regular and tall sizing. You can check it out at lmg. gg slash float Flain Ta. I almost read that as float plananet E That m. 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Hey, Dan and Co is DLSS five actually AI slop Or did Nvidia mess up using exting games Would new environments slash models where people had no existing emotional connection have made it better received I mean I thinkink That was one of the things that I had so many thoughts on DLSS five. It's actually a really great segment because I think Riley had a really interesting perspective. Luke brought his off course, always excellent perspective. I said a bunch of stuff too I I felt like it was one of those things that I had So many thoughts about that without sitting down and like typing up a script, I felt like live was not really the right format for me to express them all because There was definitely a side of me that was, you know, like this is outrageous And then there was a side of me that was like, I wonder if the worst part of this is just that Nvidia showed it to us too early And that was one of the things that I actually told our NVIidia rep. I was like, yeah, I I think one of the worst things that you guys did was to tease this because if you had just I think their intent was like, manen This is going to be so cool. This is like This is a fraction of its power. Imagine its greatness once it's done. Let's show this to everybody And all people are seeing is what you showed them instead of the potentially maybe really cool thing that maybe it's going to be But then also Hey, in spite of that. A lot of people are going to hate that anyway. and for some very valid reasons. I don't think it's the fault like it's complicated. I do think in general. peopleop are getting less accepting of work in progress things because the benchmark for like what is a beta or what is early access is just completely lost any reason. Things will stay in beta states for their entire period of life that they're interesting. I think the Gmail beta was six years or something like that Five years, Minecraft. s Gmail was famously in beta for five years as a perfectly functioning email platform. Yeah. Like what does beta even mean? And wait, is the part of Linux challenge out yet where we talk about sort of readjusting your definition of beta I don't think so. Oh, okay I'm not sure. Well, there's a bit in one of the Linux Challenge videos that either is out or is coming out. Apparently apparently it is. Yeah. okay. Oh my b. whereere we talked about How the word beta means really different things in different contexts. Like I used to really enjoy seeing super early builds of games Yeah, we're like Really janky. Yeah. like you could kind of see the vision and it was like, okay, I like's it's fun to see this early on. Everything's like wider frames and like kind of terrible, but like You can understand what they're going for and they're showing off like a mechanic consider of the finished game or whatever and that's cool. And now it's just like, This is basically the game. If what you show off isn't effectively perfect, but there might be there might be some bugs for some users. That's like to like your typical you know console or like Windows gamer, That's pretty much my expectation of what beta means. And it got to the point where like I mean, Firefox, I think you were you were rocking nightly Yeah for like ages. years. And like that is probably more akin to what we would have traditionally thought of as beta. Yeah, like back in the day. Yeah, and I was expecting there to be problems and stuff. And then when I went over to the Linux side of things, all of a sudden beta means Broken. Like this doesn't work. you are a tester, which is kind of what it was originally supposed to be. Like Yeah, I remember getting access to games when I was a wee lad Um, gettingiv beta access to games and having the like motivation of like, I need to go find bugs and like actually trying to generate good bug reports and stuff because I was like, wow, I can't believe I got access to this indevelopment thing that has bugs. I want to be helpful and go help them find those bugs. And that's just not a thing anymore. Invite only beta access is now based on like sales Like if you buy it early enough you get invite paid access. Back then, you had to like apply L guy it was a whole thing. Yeah, it's it's weird. So I think there's that. but then also I think the community is very right. be super, super skeptical of heavily AI backed projects at this point. and I think we are fairly early on in this whole thing and it makes a lot of sense for the community to speak out about what they want from these Yeah, I mean, the community has gotten what they want by being very vocal About Okay Maybe not many things, but boy did we ever get the Sonic? character fixed for the movies. That was good though. That was really good. So like if they can help NvidIia Cour correct I'm just I'm not Loss of loud noises. I'm not convinced listen that Nidia would heard anything gamer said because I don't think I think this is one of those cases where both parties were talking completely past each other I think gamers were saying That thing you showed us, this isn't what we want Here is the artful intent that we expect from our games. Games are a medium for artists to communicate them a message and a vision to the world. They are not AI generation, we don't want everything to get all seamy and get that What's it called AI, something Yas or whatever it is? I forget Yasification. Yeah, we don't want that And then NvIidia was going Guys, this is Uh, this is like Free. visualization It's running on two hundred fifty ninet s. obviously this isn't the finished thing. you're completely focusing on the wrong issues. This is going to be built in as a tool for the game devs in order to realize their vision. You guys are completely missing the point. Both parties are going like this at each other and neither is listening to what the other' saying at all far as I could tell. and so no, I don't believe NvIidia is changing course all but I also think it is right by the community to try Yes. Yeah I think that's more of my point. I think Nvidia's response was in what was it? a keynote or or an investor call. their last didn't include Their last revenue NvIidia changes gaming to Eedge. Hold on here. let me see if I can find this Uh yes During their Q one fiscal year twenty twenty seven earnings GFce GPU revenue was folded into a newly created Edge computing segment that also covers PCs, workstations AI RAN base stations, robotics and automotive Nvidia, the gaming company No longer reports gaming revenues as a separate line item on their fiscal reports I was trying to pretend to look shocked. I'm not actually shocked. I mean, it's like The writing's been on the wall for a long time But I think This is a this is one of those weird times where I agree with you No no, I'd like, I' sorry, that came across wrong. This is one of those weird times where I agree with what you said that when the community feels strongly about something, they need to speak up and make their voices heard. However, We may be overplaying our hands against another party that doesn't care what we think and could just as easily just go. I think OkayK will then I think it's important to keep in mind that they might not be the only ones listening Um, yeah I think You know Nvidia is such a huge ship and they have such more interesting waters to sail It doesn't necessarily matter too much. But U, you know, people at Intel working on Ak might be listening. People at AMD working on AMDGPU stuff might be listening. Are we going to keep getting our DGPUs Luke I hope so. There's no guarantee right now Ruid Yeah, maybe Druid. Maybe Drid. I don't think I don't think E has a cod nameame yet Do we know what E is supposed to be? Fker That's pretty cool. I like it. I have no idea 'm the stuff to top my head Okay, I'm going to see if the auto complete will tell me what's next Mm blah blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. M No I don't Elemental, Elvin. I think I think we're just guessing you guys Cool yeah I don't think we have a I don't think we have a fifth one yet Hopefully we're still to get druid, but that leaves what? like AMD whose commitment to building gaming GPU's waivers like U, My commitment to Is it anything I sent I don't know if this is in the dock, but there's apparently some Corsairor are going to be coming out with. Oh, CX CMX what's that company called again? I don't remember. CXMT I think sent this like this morning. Yep so. Yep So like and I think I think we call, I don't know if it was me. I think it happened on the WN show though, But I think we call this idea of RAM prices eventually being saved by effectively Chinese companies coming in Um So maybe that happens elsewhere. I know there's a There's a Chinese GPU That's like four hundred and something bucks and it's around like four thousand sixty performance. Is that true? Needs driver updates and a pricing change. Yeah,. prettyretty bad It is not it is not close.ot close. What is it forty se? It's not a helpful statement Uh what was it close to Where's the three thousand sixty on there? The three thousand sixty is the most U it's the most this is a perfectly crommulent gaming card of It is it has the highest percentage of any card on the Steam hardware survey, but that percentage is still only like four percent So So what's that the mode I I don't I always get those things mixed up. Yeah. I think it's the mode. Okay. ye Gaming mode, three thousand sixty that's not a bad marketing segment at all. That's an incredib nery jo Thank you. that's got to go on. take that the top one hundred list. takeake that compliment. But But just because they're performing there right now, which is does not mean Forever. Yeah Man W wouldn't have seen this one coming Not even a little But like there is a market there. Ands that's the thing I kind of keep coming back to is like, you know what? Okay, sure. mayaybe there isn't. Maybe that market is really not that interesting to the Nvidias, the Intels, the MMDs of the world right now. But it's still billions of dollars. Yeah. And somebody wants billions of dollars. They were doing real well before the coin rush. before the AI rush They were doing real well before then They were pretty big players before then that means there's room. for that market. And if a Chinese company or any other company realistically, but let's be honest If a Chinese company wants to step in and crush them. I'm not saying what kind of doctor it was Ready for another Yeah, I'm ready for another com, yes. quickly. Get us out of here. Hap on it Hey Wanda DL, looking forward to Whaleand this weekend and the new swag. Luke, did you catch the Starship launch The kind of Is that the question? Do you know what I'm talking about? We're gonna get no We're gonna out no. Yeah, I did I did catch it. It didn't end up going though, right? Am I crazy U lunch Did you see the Starship maybe Yeah, I definitely saw the Starship maybe Um Yeah, they're calling it the the launch attempt at this point. Um tries again for its launch window Are we hearing static or is someone watching a really low B rate starship launch. That's weird. So Iip tries again first launch, Yeahah, I was I was I was paying attention, but I don't think it actually Um Wint Am I crazy No, Dark guy too says yes, watched. I watched it. And the hell did it launch. I mean, it was this afternoon, no Is this Is this no? Yeah this I watch yesterday. I have not caught up to this may twenty second, Yeahah, successfully launches prototype of Starship rocket. That looks pretty That looks pretty launched to me. I always launch in the middle of my workdayays. I can't always keep tra. You know, the world does not revolve around you, mister Main character But that's what I'm saying, I need to get you another monitor. about. goodness U so it. way to prove that you're actually working though. Th I want to like actually pay attention We'll just come back to work later flex time Yeah, but I can't alwaysist, I can't always do that. Sorry, I got to reschedule this meeting. There is doing a space T think I think I reschedule so many meetings that if my reason was I'm watching a video, I think people are gonna get upset. That is what we do here. None of what's about to happen is financial advice, but the SpaceX IPO is gonna to be wild. It's gonna be nuts. Whatever happens. Yeah, it's gonna be nuts. If There's no way that goes calmly It either goes to the moon or it splashes down in the ocean. There is absolutely zero in between. But like without landing on a pad. Oh, one hundred percent Like totally horizontal In pieces. Yeah Yeah in many, many, many pieces. Not the intentional pieces. No, the unintentional pieces, man there Yeah. What's the what's the vibe, though? It was all successful. Things went well. It seems like it. Um Just on the skimming I'm doing. No I'm getting spoilers I'll watch it later regardless. I watch Freds, you say ninety percent good stuff. Okay, cool That's good Booster failed on Booster back, shifted good O shhip landing was perfect We'll see booster mystery and boost. Okay, I mean, from in my perspective, it's a lot more important that the ship does well. Obviously you want them both do well, but anyways, yeah, that's cool I'll talk about it l Thanks for the pink. because I knew it got rescheduled. I I didn't know it got rescheduled today That's interesting Hey, some more AI related news. This one's kind of funny. In the weekly Linux Kernel messaging list, Linuus Torvolds delivered release candidate four for Linux seven point one included in his message though, was Torvold's highlighting that the security mailing list has become almost entirely unmanageable due to individuals E of whom are using the same AI tools reporting the same bugs that those AI tools detected, creating massive duplication Tvols describes it as a pointless churn because AI detected bugs are pretty much by definition, not secret So handling them on a private security list is wasteful and actually makes duplication worse since reporters can't see each other's submissions. He also wrote that AI tools are great, but only if they actually help rather than cause unnecessary pain and pointless make believe work Feel free to use them, but use them in a way that is productive and makes for a better experience So simply put, if you actually want to add value, read the documentation, create a patch too and add some real value on top of what the AI did. Don't be a drive by. send a random report with no real understanding kind of person, okay? Ban Is there a more based Pers alive today. Do doesnn't necessarily seem like it U We were just talking about Linux and it made me think I have an update on why I'm fairly certain I know why mine didn't work. Should I talk about that? Yeah, it's a little bit of a spoiler for a Linux challenge and some part of episode three or episode four, Luke talks about Fortza Horizon six, which you guys told me would work I mean How how could they not know? it is so I asked I asked on a previous WN show. like I don't think Fzer Horizon six will work It' the Microsoft game, whatever. And all of Chat was like, it'll work. It'll work five works. It'll definitely work But I mean so it does so it does work for some people It works lookook, it's silver. it works. I don't love the rating system. It does work for some people. The rating system, you mean the rating lies? Yeah. I think come on paying attention to Proton to, Look, as someone who's pro Linux Very, very excited about Proton and have been beating the Proton drum since the first time it got named Proton as someone who has gamed extensively on Linux using Proton and just loves everything about it. It's quite amazing Proton DB. is the biggest proton glazing load of horsseh that exists on the internet. I'm sorry, but it just so You'll have games that are like Gold diamond pllatinum ruby, verified perfect that are like full of people under them that are like, this doesn't work on this, this, this, this, this and they come on So something that said Okay tellell me about Fortza. somethingomething that st out to me was kind of interesting Quite a few people had no real problems which is very cool And and other pieces for base. love protons. Other people are the reason why it's silver And I was like, this is really interesting to me that it's so drastic the gap between the two. And you know how yet again another spoiler, Elijah mentioned that it worked for him. He was like kind of surprised that it didn't work for me. I had the The aha moment last night. I don't think I did that voice line quite well enough but that's okay. someomeone will get the reference. Yeah Aa. It's still not very good. reallyally isn't. I want to try third time. Maybe it don't work. They do say the third time is a charm. I had the realization last night and I asked Elijah brand of GBauty Andy I'm running an Nvidia car. Finally a victim of Nvidia driver issues on L pretty sure. because you you've talked in the past about how Just who care No issues. Wh cares whyy no, no. Why do people distro When I'm talking about that, it's the install of them. Oh sure. I don't stand by that completely. God I cant solve them as like a solved problem basically at this point. God. But it's But the drivers themselves. Yeah And I've poked around to some other people that have been having trouble All Nvidia installs. I poked around to some other people having do people list their specs? I don't. That would be kind of nice. Uless. Thanks for nothing. All right, cool. S by s by people with issues So he just fills it on the right P you Yeah let's just do that. Yeah, GP N videoia. Let's go Okay, brilliant useless No reports it on Steam Deck. Can I just not do Steam deeck? What had it set to steam Deck? I don't know how or why I didn't that Oh, I see all There we go Gel there In video. Okaykay, cool Some people have it working. Yeah.ink up something For normal gamers, this game is just awful to run on Linux with Nvidia. It's possible but not great Okay Audio missing Windowing other I had to disable enable full screenibility occasionally thumbs up Don't glaze it. See, this is a man People are so much more upset When you say something should work And it doesn't versus if you just say it doesn't work. And a game that runs but crashes not working You know?, That's not silver That's like vomit green. that That's not good Like we should have the same standard and to be clear I'm not I don't want to take anything away from the incredible developers who work on Proton and wine and all this like really cool stuff. It's super cool and it's amazing But for a consumer facing tool like Proton DB It's not useful to misrepresent the experience. To me What does silver mean to you, Luke If I tell you you're a pretty good a silver member in our club. That's pretty good. then that means you are Yeah, silver to me on Proton TV is terrifying Gld is questionable. Platinum is like nice Yeah, that's usually how I see it I Al also don't have to use it that often though, because almost everything does just work. Which is super cool. Really fantastic. Skimming through here, it seems like it's instability things also like like this person has Wors fine out of the box except there are significant bugs. It's just like, hold on hold on. I'm gonna to here your ltertop. Let's see this. I already sk past it. I'd have to go I don't know where it was, but Theres There's a lot of people on NVidia thumbsing it down. Yeah But like this one thumbs up, Ram like a dream, except if there's missing textures And there's performance problems mostostly fine, but your mileage may vary. So it it seems like if you do get it working on Nv videoidia, there's probably still some problems. Yeah, it seems like and I am not And given that Nvidia is ninety five percent of the DGPU market That's that seems pretty important. But I think it's I think it's even holding its silver r rating as it is because of this Steam Deck status check markark verified. You know what? And the reason for that it's MD in the Steam deeck, right? Yeah. So So there's a bunch of reports on here that are decently positive. because I think it's people running like handhelds or people who have AMD desktop GPU's. Magnetic Flux makes a really good point and says I'm personally guilty of posting on Proton DB Five minutes after I successfully launched a game because I'm all excited and I want to contribute. notot realizing the game is going to crash in two hours That So valid So valid And I get it, like That's the, you know, not everyone who posts on Proton TV is a grizzled veteran from the's games QA industry, you know And that's totally fine There are a lot of posts on here where they clearly know that there's a lot of problems and still are like Thumbs up, love it. It's amazing You'll love it. All right, what do we want to do next? I feel like we're sort of overdue to do a couple sponsor spots, Dan. am I No, we should definitely do that now. Okay. 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We made a mini movie People are liking it. Yeah. People are liking the crap out of this. Okay So we have Luke reacting to linuses creating like an MVP plan And that's the bulk of the video No Then we have Luke and Dan doing whatever they were doing. This is different Dan, by. I'm then kind of this is mine, m, mine, mine. Dan. Sorry I'm just I'm joking is not like the bird. I know it's not like the bird, but it sounds like the bird. Could you just call him better, Dan? It's easier. Oh my God. I mean, I wouldn't say better. smarter maybe. smmarter more handsome, M technically It's better. He's better Dan. he's awesome I appreciate. I like my people e. I like both ds equ. But if you had to save one inough f Who lit the fire? It was me I guess I'm gonna save the other dan, Dan. They' young. Mbe don't like the fight anyyway, the point is See, how did I know it was gonna be this dad who lit the fire? How did I know that? I have a problem Okay, back to this. Right, so I haven't actually seen this yet You guys reacting to the you know this system has been deployed for like six months now, right? Yeah It actually All of its works. Yeah the final state is like, I'm sure you guys discovered quite impressive. It actually worked. Yeah. Um Yeah. And so it has like kind of u it has like a flow where you can go through and like do these u, like just run these these like little scripts do a bunch of like really, really, really horrible spaghetti code things And then it gets to mid have seen worse. Dan explaining to Linus how his much better tool works And then finally, oh, this is included, apparently. This was not meant to be included Sammy just included the part of the meeting where I explain to Gan S how The current system is working perfectly for spepecifically Men's doubles With the EO system, As long as we only want to run one event at a time But it doesn't work withith singles, mixed doubles It doesn't work if we want to sign up together. So if we want to play men's doubles as a team, like because you need a hard carry Um I took no offense. Yeah. Our current system does not support that. It has no flexibility for how many players. are on each court So it assumes four players per court. And if we don't have an even multiple of four, there's a court that can't play that simple Whereas it would be nice to be able to do like quartz of five and because everything's if we have an odd number, it's just to kind of to eat up the extras. and because it's just ello As long as you're playing the right number of matches in a night, then it doesn't really matter who you who exactly you play like what exactly the play order is U So so Dan, so Be it's vibecoded and because I don't actually like understand what I created and because of the scope, has gotten so broad to be able to include all those different formats and stuff the AI got like extremely confused. I actually showed Denis. some of the outputs that I was getting from it where I'd be like, Leave no placeholders And then it would like crap out a thing that's like, Here's some placeholders for what we're gonna to do next. I'm like, no, no, I just told you no placeholders. just do the thing. And it's like, Ohh, you wanted placeholders? Sure, I filled this with placeholders It's ridiculous Um So what Dan is going to do is he's going to take his like better version and he's gonna add a bunch of cool functionality and it's going to be awesome. One of the other things I want to do is just like impromptu ranked match So you can go on like a ladatternight and play against people that are like similarly ranked to you. like you would in like a like a ranked game, right or you can actually just like signign up as for. And you can just play a ranked match anytime. I want to put like iPads next to the chs and you can just like boop your wrists things and go like, okay, play ranked match U, and then you're If you're that good at carrying or if you, you know can win an upset victory against someone who's a lot better than you, then you can boost your score pretty well that way. It's going to be pretty cool. U Anyway, that's live. R, We're doing flip plane announcements Before you write, o yeah, okay. So for this video, before you write, why not use X AI model or? why not do Y AI software? This was shot like so long Wow. A year ago. It's like actually way out of date when you consider how AI stuff goes. Oh yeah Okay. Yeahah, it was just stuck in production hell and we're not going to I'm just saying that that's why it never released on the main channels I think it would If we release it within the full plane ecosystem most people are going to like give it enough time and attention to understand that it's an old project and a bit of a time capsule and whatever, and it's fine. If you try to release this on the main channel, the top comments' going to be like You're an idiot, why don't you lose code or open car gentic, whatever So' just it just wasn't worth it basically Sorry. last thing. sorry, I'm dying The last thing we have for full plane announcements this week is It's up Our video on the Trump T one phone The internet was wrong Trump phone is shipping. It's basically a look at the entire saga that has been Trump mobile and the T one phone. It's a really cool video. Riley actually co wrote it with me. And we let him out of the tech linked dungeons. and the creative sponsor Prouctions Dungeons for a little bit to work on this together. And he actually interviewed here is, Dom from the Verge, who has been at the forefront of information on the Trump phone. So he's a collaborator for the video as well. It's actually a really cool video you guys are going to want Check it out. So it's over on float plane U. lmg.gg slash FP when where you can watch the movie length vibe coding challenge video as well as get early access to the Trump phone video All right, Dan, what are we supposed to be doing? Let's do some more topics. Okay, Luke, do you want to pick want Here's a challenge for you best news topic out of what remains. What I'm going to see if I can pick which one I think that you think is the best news topic Um d d,, dah Noone of end. D that. D Got the thatics one Is it? I don't think it's going to be It was not the same Okay, hate me. Microsoft admits faulty drivers were killing Windows eleven battery life years. s Windows' old driver testing system was too narrow because it mostly checked for crashes, but not for background issues like battery drain, overheating or sluggish performance. And as a result, bad third party drivers could have been slipping through for the aforementioned years. Those overlooked drivers could prevent laptops from entering proper low power states. What? Like sleeper hibernation. No way. causing hidden battery drain, heat and general performance issues, even when the system looks stable, alsoso known as cooking in your backpack. Microsoft is now fixing this issue by expanding driver quality rules to include power and thermal efficiency and everyday performance. They're also blocking or automatically rolling back problematic drivers via Windows update so they don't keep quietly harming deices This is See? You do have the same level of enthusiasm. This one, I think is you more important and bigger. You claimed you weren't gonna have the same ent. one more important and bigger I just I want to see Microsoft write the ship and I'm here to cheerlead it the whole way. And this is somethingomet that should have been dealt with ages ago And it's important to talk about that But it is such a step in the right direction and just I want to see them stick to it. And I'm so excited to have Windows laptop suck less. And this seems like a big part of it. It's pretty late, but it's not too late And it's not that small actually. This is a pretty big deal So you know, hopefully they keep stacking these, hopefully it keeps going well. Even on the desktop, this kind of thing just drives me absolutely not. Like whenever your stupid like monitor doesn't actually turn off off. You know, it just go the screen just goes black but like it doesn't turn off. L that kind of like power saving, power management stuff drives me crazy no matter whether I'm on a battery or not. It's fascinating to me that Like, I don't I don't experience these problems. likeike, um I've I don't think I've heard of someone experiencing a sleep issue on a MacBook Maybe ever. I don't think so, I'm not sure. The craziest part of that one is that All five of the systems in the LAN area are identical. Four of them, even down to the monitor. and only one of them has this issue. just my youngest daughter's machine, the monitor doesn't turn off. Yeah pl I do driver updates on them at the same times. And I had mying was having sleep issues. Now keep in mind, they did that update recently where they said sleep issues are way better now And I stopped using windows before that happened. So maybe it's sixix now. But my laptop was having sleep issues, went to mint, no more sleep issues. Gil More Dee says it's driving me nuts. My monitors do sleep, but my windows are resized when they wake up. I hate that issue. That is so flipping annoying. I know what you're talking about. I haven't had they all do the like No, no, when when they when they're like this big and all the UI elements are like all squished and stupid, you're like, obviously that isn't what I wanted. And it seems to be related to like scaling issues or something or or like not knowing what resolution of panel they're connected to. So like while they're sleeping, they think they're on like a six hundred forty byx four eighty VGA thing and they like cram everything into a thing and then And then it gets big and it's like, well, just I'm going manually draink them all. It's ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, I hate that. You know what? So here's what I here's what I thought he was I thought he was going to go more more gamer pick Valve has made some changes to the set of game tags on Steam, including the addition of seventeen new tags The removal of twenty eight tags and the merging or updating of several others These updates are intended to help players more easily identify games that match their interests while also improving Steam's ability to generate relevant recommendations Steam said, Each year, we typically add a few new tags based on community feedback, but it has been a while since we last did so This was most recently in twenty twenty four when they added dice Dwarf Boomer shhooter and ellf. Tags In the time since, we've built up a list of tags to add remove and update. Does Dwarf and ellf really help you? Do people buy games based on If there's elves in it depends what they're doing with those games L. Okay. All right Removed tags include Three D vision. Rest in peace Ambient American Blood Croud funded Cult cllassic documentary trauma Dungeons and dragons Electronic Eperience feature film Foreign That makes sense Game maker Games workshop Illuminati I'm they remove that. I'm a little surprised they removed blood Sorry, I'm a little surprised they moveved blood Yeah Kickstarter Lego Masterpiece Mature. Surpris I remove that. Movie Narration NSFW Really? That seems like the most obvious tag to keep. Roguevania. PG maker Warhammer forty K, web publishing and Well written We removed well written. That also seems weird Added tags include of a raiding? Bullet heaven. Desktop companion. B Are we talking Bonszaie buddy, or are we talking about the Elven thing? Do you know, vampire survivors? Those are now bullet heaven games. Inead of bullet Hell, bullet hells? No, 'cause bullet hells, the bullets are bad, but your bullets are good They're your bullets The' hell for everyone else What's the difference Bullet hell. you're You're the tiny thing And things attack me and bad. But in bullet heaven Vampiresvver the way around. So in bullet Hells, there's lots of bullets coming towards you and you need to avoid them and back and heaven of those. There's lots of enemies coming towards you, but not projectiles and you are sending the projectiles out. Yeah. Like in vampire survivors, there's tons of projectiles coming out of you all the time. Yeah. No I mean, I played games it's just the direction. wait Is this dist to you, hell? instead of calling them wr survivors likes Like what is it Castlevania? Is that a Castlevania like No, it is the Castlevadia So what kind of game is vampire survivors? It's Goodhe Vampired survivors Originally known as sururvivors likes or reverse bullet Hells, according to the AI overview. Okay, you know what? I'll allow it. Um, Organizing Cleaning ating Wuia Wooksia iiania What are these Someone a damn's looking at Aual heroes. Aartial chivalry Oh arts and chivalry, a genre of Chinese fiction and low fantasy concerning the adventures of martial artists in ancient Read more. Falling blocks espionage Samurai Zoo Wolves Bears Animals Ct and language learning I can see why you picked the Windows topic. I honestly didn't scroll down that far. So I really picked a this and thought it was maybe not that interesting. I also don't really use the tags on Steam much though. Oh, I love the tags But a lot of bunch A lot of the time I end up using like community tags more, but for me the most important tags are U like local multiplayer couach co op. Yeah, but I just I down to the the officially filled out by the game of those Oh, sometimes the community ones can be really good. These are also for those categoriz And there's a bunch of merges as well. It's kind of moveo on probably This is cool. The battle over users' rights to mod smart TV software is heading to trial. Ours Technica reports that Vizio is heading to trial over claims that it violated open source Linux licenses by not giving TV owners the full source code for their smart TV OS The nonprofit software Freedom Conservacy has spent Oh Vancy, excuse me, has spent eight years trying to get people access to their TV source code in order to let them customize their devices, say, for example, by disabling ads and tracking or adding their own features Visio counters that the open source GPL or general public license doesn't give consumers the legal right to sue and disputes that it owes users that level of access This August, a California jury is going to decide who is right The SFC's main argument is that open source GPLs may be enforceable by consumers, not just by tech companies and developers So we're kind of getting into contract law theory that could expand who gets to enforce GPL obligations A judge already ruled Vizio doesn't have to guarantee that modded TVs will still work afterward. That makes a lot of sense onlyn that users can obtain and modify the source code itself Lyinnis Torvolds has chimed in on this case before In a blog post, he agreed that GPLs are mainly about source access not about forcing companies to unlock hardware. Smart TV companies increasingly make money from ads and tracking rather than hardware sales. so if Vizio loses could make it easier for users to fight TV manufacturers across the whole industry, which could have a knock on effect of making TV's finally more expensive All right. Oh here we go. Cool. How is that a hut I want them to be more expensive. I just want them to not be ads Sorry, I think I misheard you. Did you say you want them to be more expive? I'm completely okay with TV's being more expensive as long as they're not force feeding meats I don't want the ads. What if they just weren't more expensive and didn't have ads? Great, that's not going to happen A groken dream, right? Yeah. So I'm trying to look at what I think is the reality is if they can't serice ads, the price is going to go up And I'm prefering that reality. Okay, here's here's here's a question, here's a question for you. So this will only affect Linux based Operating systems. I is Ties in Linux based I don't think web OS is Hyizen is Linux based Um Yes, WebOS is also based on the Linux kernel originally developed by Palm and later acquired by LG uses a Linux foundation combined with web technologies like HTL five and JavaScript Okay, I did not realize that WebOS was Linux based. Interesting Iing officially on LG's website they say it is. U so what Are there any TV OS options that are not Linux based. I also don't know specifically what exactly Vizio has done to draw their yire U Maybe they just were a smaller target that seemed easier to go after to try to get a ruling and that then you know, they could use to go after Samsung and the rest of them U Or maybe it's because the Visio brand is owned by Best Buy, so it's easier to go after them in the U.S. I'm not I'm not sure why we singled out Vysio specifically here or whether this will actually apply more broadly, but it would be very cool to Um Man, what would this even look like So you can get the source code But then do what with it Like what is it that they're What is it that we're hoping to achieve here Oh sorry, Walmart, Walmart, not Best By, Walmart. other other giant US Maka corporations. Thank you for that. Noki saying Roku is not Linux.. Wikipedia, the best source of for sure, definitely correct information on the internet says that it's Linux based West familyamily Linux on embedded systemys Is Wikipedia wrong I mean It wouldn't be the first time they might be. incorrect Everything I can find seems to suggest that Roku is based on Linux So Crystal says, kill the ads, put in custom backgrounds. I don't know. And yes, that's fair enough But just because we have the open source code doesn't mean that we will be able to do anything with it after it's been modified and after we put it back on our TV Unless you know The TV gets rooted or whatever else. U, but in that case There's like would be h I'll admit to you, I don't know much about the hardware architecture of TV's. Like I don't know how many models in a given model year are all going to be using like the same basic hardware platform And you know, the same code base L if there was a if there was a route for some visio TV. what are the odds that it would apply to You know, every TV in that series. What are the odds that it would apply to every TV in that model year? Id pretty high. You think it' be pretty high? I think pretty high. Yeah, I don't know. I have I have to admit, I have torn down like one TV. E basing that on not a lot Cool but I feel like pretty high I'm currently voting with pretty high He's got the vibes right now. I like it. Yeah. All right, well, Roku' is definitely based on Linux, by the way. I found something on the Roku engineering blog talking about, it's built top of Linux All right, well, Luke with the most ice cold of hot takes today. Very cool Indeed Deinitely would for that. I would seriously though, I would I would happily pay more for a TV Uh, if it didn't have ads and stuff I definitely don't want TV's to cost more. And the crazy part about it is I actually don't I don't know if I think that they should need to. want to cost more. Like we did that video on I would prefer if everything Like, I think we're getting into silly numbers with a lot of things. I wish just everything cost way less and It would be also okay if people proportionateally made less. It is very silly to me Like I remember and I know this this is based on nothing, but I remember when I was a kid, the first time my dad was filling up gas and the like price per liter was over a dollar. I remember just being like, that's dumb The dollar amount shouldn't go up faster than the leader amount does. That's obviously stupid. like it's purely like just ves basically. You want to like the opposite of like a stock split for like money. Cha Like like a consolidation. It And it happens in video games U the the like damage numbers will get too high. Some some like MMO will have expansions for like ten years and they'll be like a million damage twelve trillion damage per hit. That's stupid. And then they do a they do a number crunch because things get a little ridiculous. Um I don't think we're actually there yet, but I like it feels like we're trending that direction. I don't think it matters. I think we just need to I think we just need to adjust our cash money to make it make sense Like when I was a kid Already, a quarter was like Okay, I can buy like a couple candies Now, what's a quarter It's like nothing So why don't we just have like like a one dollar coin and a five dollar coin and like you know, a ten dollarars coin Like why why is everything like They still have a one dollar bill in America, right? Like they still don't have a one dollar coin. Is that right Well, I I don't know if they don't have a one dollar coin, but they definitely a one dollar bill They have both. You guys have coins now, good for you Do you have a two dollars coin yet Punneies are dope. They have one dollar coins, but they're not used. No, okay. no, I know that you guys have them. I just mean like are they common? I don't know, I don't think so Yeah, Yeahah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no. Yeah I know they're a thing No, they're not common at all. Okaykay, see, no, this is what I'm talking about. I know they Yeah. I mean, you there's there's lots of like technically it's real currency. Canada has a fifty dollarars coin But like, nobody ever uses it You know Canada has a fifty dollars coin I've heard of it, but isn't it more just like a collector's item thing you can buy them with like fancy imagery on them and that's basically it. It's more of like an investment thing So this is silver coin. This is all about the value of the silver. It is not about the actual like face value the face value of it And I'm pretty sure that's like totally a thing In the states too, where they have like weird denominations of queens and stemes. Bing bullion Yeahah, I' like I'm pretty sure the u Like there's face values on like these too. Like here's a two hundred dollars coin. Yeah, just like it costs you four thousand eight hundred dollars hundred to buy it. Yeah Yeah, is what is that one? Crown Jewels? What is that one? Crown jewels? The fifty thousand dollars coin? fifty dollars coin thousand dollars co. Well, what is this? Yeah That's what I'm saying. A five ounce coin What? How big is that thing? fififty grand Okay, now it's Canadian rubles. so like, I don't know, thirty four thousand U dollars. No more than that They're worth something buy part of a sandwich. They're worth something U Man, the pricing of this stuff is so dumb Like so dumb Why is fununny that it's legal tender though. It is funny that you could you can technically, you can technically take this to Red Robin withith a group of ten people and have it not be enough money. Like it How did we get on this subject? Who knows? I don't know, but anyway based, hope they win in court. hope it actually does lead to Vizio having to open up their TV's one way or another. Hope there is a domino effect that causes TV's to not be able to spile on us Hope it doesn't impact TV pricing too much because I'm actually going to push back on that one did recently cover a Sceptor TV that was a whole TV Yeah with a whole panel and backl and processor and netorking No no wait it didn't have networking But it does have a processor. it does need at least something and it was It was had no spywar. and was not really much more expensive. And like I do think that the TV's that do have network connectivity and processing, more sophisticated processing and all of that, do have additional costs, but it clearly if Scepttor can sell that profitably then those TV's that don't spy on us don't need to be That much more expensive I hope I do find often when companies are like, oh my God, we have to we have to do this We have to insert the ads into our product that you bought It's the only way we can stay profitable. I do find that they were a profitable company, then they did that. The price didn't exactly go down I feel like the consumer never wins in any of these scenarios So good newews manano All right, here's Firefox. Yeah. This is cool. Yeah. Firefox one hundred and fifty one expands PDF editing capabilities while easing platform migration. Mozilla has released Firefox version one fifty one. In the new version, you can now merge PDF's right in the browser, not just split and edit them Look out Adobe I don't think I realized how good Firefox was it editing documents because I mentioned that I tend to use said this stuff recently to someone and they were like, oh, I just use Firefox and I was like, Why know you can just view it there And They're like, no, you can edit it. And that was a little bit surprising for me. I still haven't tried to do it, but that's cool. Yeah, in a win for Linux and MacOS users, Firefox profile backups now work across platforms. So you can export your setup from Windows and restore it on Linux or MacOS with extensions and themes intact Mazzilla appears to be polishing the UI ahead of a bigger redesign called Project Nova. The new tab page is now Firefox homeome with rounded search bars, customizable wallpapers, more shortcuts and widget tweaks and all that fun stuff. And Firefox private browsing now includes a end private session button that lets you quickly clear session data and start a fresh private session without closing the browser window So it won't be like super obvious when your parents walk into the room. I still maybe going to wonder why you have a private browsing window open at all. But I can provide you with an easy answer. It was because I really needed to see how this website looks when I'm not logged in. I was doing a report on algorithmic ads and content servicing. You're also helping your friend shop for something and you wanted to make sure that you weren't getting biased pricing and maybe you needed to log into something and you didn't want to mess with your loggin sessions and your had I do I've got two windows open right now and an incognito tab plus the other two gu I don't talk about on the show What are you doing Dam We got three monitors Is that a rockin mush or He doesn't get one for that I never get things. It's okay. Um You have to tell a joke. Balls are bluer than the float plane logo. that's pretty blue. Speaking of I don't know. what kind of blue Its talked about there's no official float plane blue, fun fact. It's just blue. We just kinda There's also no official float plane plane. We just like kind of make it up as we go Oh yeah, the plane is always different this plane is not even like the same Kind of float plane, I don't think, as the kind on the back of his shirt Yeah You don't you don't think about that. ' wor about it Yeah, it doesn't matter. It's a non concern. The logo stays consistent Everything else is Who knows U NBC and CNet got their trrump phones They' real. They're out there and they have three and a half millimeter headphone jacks. Wow, that's exciting. However, the Verge has released an article questioning if the phone has actually shipped. Outside of two media samples, there are no signs that a single T one phone has actually Chipped a joking observation. One of the tech linked writers pointed out that the phones Color is more of a pe yellow Gold But for some That might be a feature. Okay, that's that's a deep cut Are we are we talking about the the okay? Yeah, that Mhm fun disiscussion question. I think you've touched on this a lot before, but can you explain why some media outlets are more likely to getting early access to tech than others? Did we get a Trump phone? Do you have one? you have a P yellow phone in your pocket? We did not get a Tump phone. that just a rocket? I did supposedly put down a deposit. Someone told me that we put down a deposit So as far as I know, we have a deposit now as like as a user, as a purchaser. So we should theoretically get an opportunity to pay the balance because we haven't paid for the entire thing yet The really weird one for me is like The the relationship betweenween this particular president and the people close to him. Fascinating And news media. Fascinating Um Like if they were gonna seede A media outlet Wouldn't it be one America network or like Fox or something. Why NBC Wh knows? I thought NBC is fake news Like I just I don't I don't follow the logic And if you understand the logic I don't know. let me know. let me, let me know Sure. AI is coming and the youth are booing it. This is pretty funny. During a commencement speech at the University of Arizona, former Google CEO Eric Schmidt was reportedly booed as he began discussing AI and its role in shaping the future Students drowned out parts of his speech, especially when he urged them to brrace AI. He attempted to acknowledge their fears, such as job displacement and instability. Yeahah, a pretty big fear for people in school right now. They're graduating. Their timing is like terrible to be joining the workforce. Yeah. but the crowd continued to react negatively. Wow, sururprise as tech Radar put it, learearn to read the room The incident appears to have prompted discussion around young people's rising anxiety that AI will replace entry level jobs, weaken career ladders, and primarily benefit corporations and elites rather than graduates entering the workforce. One giant tech personality that appears to understand these kids is Steve the W Wzniak, who gave a commencement speech at Grand Valley State University that featured him telling the audience You all have AI actual intelligence. a statement that got him a big round of applause The text says I'm gonna butcher this. so maybe that is true. But Wazniak also had a good joke about computer engineers constantly trying to figure out how to make a brain and eventually learning that it takes about nine months to make a brain Okay, yeah, I mean that's pretty good Um Yeah, what are what are yeah I mean what an obvious thing to happen. Can you imagine not expect that? Can you imagine Being a billionaire and goinging up in front of a bunch of students and thinking that they are going to be excited about our AI infused job market Like I just I it's a funny thing because I just it doesn't seem that hard to just kind of, I don't know, look at the front page of Reddit once every week or two, like I don't read a little bit of like news. Read like a comment section on like New York Times article about AI, you know, just just just And maybe Maybe this is a weird thing. You know how my whole thing is that I actually consume comments often more than the actual source media. And that's an instinct that either I had initially or has been kind of beaten into me because it's a huge part of how I've managed to They reasonably successful on social media for so long is that I'm constantly looking at like, okay, well, like What is the room tryrying to trying to read that versus just like, you know, what is the established narrative To me, it's obvious That even if you like should definitely you consume source media as well, seeing what people's sentiment about it it is is as It can help you if you might have missed something. Totally, tootally it does. Yeah You're basically like you're crowdsourcing, did the author miss anything Sure. You know what I mean? Yeah And And a lot of the time it's like it's for my own thing. It's like I'll read the comments on our video and I'll go, ah Yeah, that's a really interesting perspective, but we didn't consider the darn it, you know? I think they might also be conflating usage versus enjoyment Um, like I think university age, high school age kids are a very good microcosm for like they're going to use best tool available to not do the thing that they probably don't want to do U like there's there's going to be a lot of that. They're going to use AI stuff. that doesn't necessarily mean that they want to. There's a lot of people Like when you when you're in university When I was in university, there's a lot of energy of like, this is what we want to do with our lives I don't necessarily want to sit and study. I don't necessarily want to just complete assignments, but I want to be a person who does this thing And to use development because that's just close to home If you're in university trying to become a developer, I don't think you're super amped up on spect driven development I think you're excited about making things and making an impact on the world through your code and your output I don't think you're super excited about sitting in a room writing a spec for something for two months before telling a computer to make it for you. Like that's not, I think creating the spec has been the worst part of the job for most of these people forever, and now it's a bigger part of the job. So like I think it's more interesting for entrepreneurial types and people who Oh my God, I just figured it out I just figured out how we got on this path This is all about like the revenge of the idea man Yeah kind of. Like it's the power for so many years has been in the hands of the developers who could actually make things happen. And the idea men got so sick of giving the money. that they were like, let I gave the money. Well, what if we gave them money but we tricked them into making A new type of a new type of software so that the ideaan holds all the power now. This is ridiculous Well they still don't, but yeah. I mean obviously the direction that they want to go in That's clearly the path. Yeah. They definitely still don't, but that is definitely the path How do you think? And this is a hypothetical because I don't think, o man, I'mraid I'm afraid to say this and be terribly wrong and it to be very terrible. but I don't think we' ever someomeone clip this? I don't think we're ever going to get to the point Qestion fails where there's no value in being able to read and understand and debug code manually because Human expertise is always going to going to have a value compared to a computer like sharting something out Um But Hypothetically, suppose we reach a point opinions that where where, you know, the developer ultimately has no value because the AI just vibecodes anything for anyone, any ideaan who has an idea Do you think? that There will be a sentiment towards the creators of AI. and I don't just mean the figureheads, like the Sam Altmans of the world. He's not actually know sitting there day in day out at open AI coding AI laughing Yeah, like do you think I'm talking I'm talking about the actual developers working for these guys. Do you think there's going to be like an emotional like a sense of betrayal and like anger towards the people who develop the tools that killed development as a profession and as an industry. Remember, hypothetical, we reach the point where any IDMN can just say, make this No. You don't think so. I don't think so because O whatever precedent already exists. U, So you don't think like like ice based harvesters were angry at the inventors of refrigeration at all or like, you know, whorier I think that was the question you were asking. I thought you were asking were are the people that aren't them angry at the U, you know, the ice carriers that helped Refrigerator makers make the refrigerator. Th now it doesn't work All right,get forget the ice maker. The engineers that developed the first refrigerator were people mad at the engineers, No, I think they're mad at the business people. So the business people. I think they're mad at the managers and the business people So they never seemed to go after like. So it won't matter who worked for those business people to obolly So, but I think they'll be mad at the business people. Yeah, o. whichich is interesting to me. because you definitely know what you're doing But some is so big. Some of them seem to and some of them don't seem to. Like I can't tell who's drinking the kool aid and who's making the koolid sometimes. You know what I'm saying? I think they know. You think think the bag is just so big that they're just like, whatever. VB Martino says att Linus and Luke, I can tell you as someone who's developing local LOMOCR models, they are already angry at the devs. I don't think it's that much Like you I'm sorry, I'm not trying to dismiss like I'm sure you have caught some flack. I'm not trying to dismiss what has happened there. I just when you when you look around online, people are mad at Sam Altman, people are mad at the companies. Yeah mr. Arco brings up a good point. What's the point of being mad at the creators of AI when the person making you work with AI is my manager? Like as a developer, well, I mean See, this is tough, right also because you're not like forced to do anything But also, you, especially if you work somewhere where your health care, for instance, is tied to your employment, You could be quite like quite forced from like a like a health standpoint to continue doing the work that you're doing. And it's not like right now, Um The job market is great. For developers, there's what's meta cutting? eight thousand jobs right now or something like that over the next little while? I have no idea I think I think it's something like that meteta job cuts planned eight thousand in sweeping global layouts over the next little while. U Yikes D,ra Stife two thousand two put it better than I think I ever could I'm not forced to do anything But boy do I like eating daily Yeah, but okay, okay, okay, hold on. S because I hear this argument all the time. Sure. I don't know that it's the most fair I mean anything is shes and gray. Do you need you need toat daily? Do know No no.. Do you need to eat co? That's crazy broccoli with every single meal. Like there's there's I don't remember who it was but there was someone who's like extremely against Do you need to eat cake daily It' literally not even close to what I was saying. veryer annoying. Anyways, there was someone recently who was talking about how they are very against a lot of these things. Sure And and the interviewer person was like, yeah, okay, what company do you work at? And it was like I don't remember Northrok Grummner or something.. And they were like, okay. L you're practically protesting your own company just doing it a roundabout way. And they were like yeah. And they're like, well, why do you work there then? And they're like, well I like the paycheck and the paycheck was in like the very high six figures. Like we're not I'm not talking about the people who, oh my God, I have to have this job or else I can't have like the minimum viable reasonable life in Western society of like having food and a roof to sit under sureure. I'm talking there are veryer, very, very high paid positions that are here to destroy jobs and that is their goal. And people are taking those positions. They are and then writing it off and like, I gott to eat and I'm like, bro. Relax. It sounds like to me, like kind of your position is that You know, when we talk about when we talk about taking their The the destroy to the destroy something hazard pay We're not talking about, you know, the people who are living check to check. No. We're talking and we're not Obviously the figureheads are going to take their fair share of the blame, but's the it's always the gray area, right? Like somewhere in the middle there is your middle management, your upper management, but not executive management. There's individual contributors in this No,'m talking I'm talking ICs. You just say middle management So someone who doesn't manage anybody. They have no reports, but they're making, you know, seven hundred grand a year. It's not even necessarily the it's I don't know, It's an area where I think you should be able to reason with and accept the responsibility of your contribution to this thing. And if you decide that that's okay This is like a this is your your morality situation. I just hate the like, you know, we've talked about this interview I've had in the past for somebody somebody who was coming in and they're making big fat money at a company. and they werere like, I don't morally align with the company anymore. I want to work somewhere else. And I was like, Hey sweet, yeah, and we get pretty far into the interview. Weorre somewhere else. And then we end up figuring out that they're Budge room is zero they want to work somewhere that they're morally happier But they need to make exactly the same amount of money. But it turned they were making Thatats stacks of money Well because there's reallyre working There's really good money in abhorrent things. Yeah. So like it's ye, you know, but I can't I can't take it in the teeth financially even though over the course of you know, a decade I'm making millions of dollars, which is unnecessary for like, And I mean the S on the end of millions quite seriously. This was like close to double digit millions. Like this person was making a lot of money, right? Like a very, very, very large amount of money. But and they understand Where the money comes from? Yeah But then they're unwilling to take a lower amount of money, which, you know, and I'm not trying to say like we are the you know float plane is the saints of the world. Noope. But I don't think we're destroying anything Yeah, I think we're fine. But like it's not, you know, they're not, u, they're not resuscitating puppies or something. So like it's it's, but like you have to kind of decide where your line is. And I think you have to understand if you're working on the the, you know the body grinder for food of turning humans into soilent. if you are making it a more viable thing You have to accept that you're doing that. Sydney broke it in float plane chats that goes. I had Palentor recruiters coming to me And it was a huge salary bump. Yeah moreore than double what I made at the time Yeah. But I was able to live comfortably with what I made and also spend money on float plane. I added that part. And I knew what was up All this is to say if you're at those companies doing the destructive work, you have options. It's all about the bag. This is my point. And I'm not even necessarily condemning them for taking it. I'm just saying that they need to know that they did. Where's your like if you could pick a line Like where's where's your where's your line? becausecause there are people scrubbing the floor at Palanter that are making, you know fifteen dollars an hour minimum wage or whatever Um That because they have, you know, the health coverage presumably, I don't even know I don't know. It's contractors. I think the line shifts depending on like financial obligations.. Maybe you have a family member who's a dependent and you're in the states or that is incredibly expensive because a medical situation. Yeah exactly. like like the line might shift a lot. Someone might actually like there might be someone who needs one of these crazy high paying jobs to make it so that like they're a family member isn't in excruciating constant pain. Okay because of American medical system or whatever. So basically you're saying it's a variable depending on like kind of survival So now I'm gonna jean Valjean this. A what point then If a certain a given job. So so we look at the compensation for, you know, a job that we might be morally okay with We look at the compensation for a job that we might find morally reprehensible U if we needed even more for survival or to save a family member to If would we steal the loaf of bread at a certain point, would you say, okay, well, it's the next logical step makes sense? Or is there is the legal line the line Yeah, I don't know if this is probably a take at all. If people can't eat and are starving, steal that damn bread, bro. I've never had a problem with this ever. So we Jean Valjan it. never bothered me. Do we take the silverware immediately after we're let out of prison though Isy are you familiar with Layman? No Okay, so So it's a terrible time in France. this is pre revolution. And Jean Baljean is sort of the Also it's still the bread, especially in Canada Yeah, we have kind of like a bread cartel. It's like sort of a thing politics, no one is going to care about it country But go for it, dude. worse Grocery stores in Canada are a corrupt mess and bread is right in the middle of it. So don't worry about it, you're not going to care. We can move on. So so Jean Valjean is I don't know, is he the protagonist of Lame Miz? Is he's certainly a character around which the story centers. I would call I would call him the protagonist. So he Um, He has a family member who is starving and he, an upstanding citizen who had never broken a law before in his life. stole food to keep them from to basically prevent someone from dying, essentially And he immediately is caught And it's just like, it's one of those things where like The career criminal, you know, never gets caught And the honest citizen who doesn't like know how to crime just immediately gets caught the very first time that he did something that from a moral standpoint really doesn't seem that bad. It was from he stole from someone who could clearly afford it, you know? He goes to prison for years And the reason is not actually necessarily entirely because he stole the loaf of bread, but because he panicked and he ran And so the punishment was so much greater because because because he panicked and he ran away U when he's let out He his life is is destroyed. by having spent all this time in a prison. Yeah. You know, he has he's a convict now. He has no means of gaining gainful employment. And he kind of looks at and he goes, well Walth How else am I now supposed to eat If not by continuually this is this is a whole, very interesting of course it's a great play. Have you ever seen it? No,, it's so good. Anyway. But like the whole idea that the criminal system creates career criminals and all this kind ofuff. Yeah. So here conversation. So so's he's on the street and and and a church you know, takes an in to, you know, just have a like a place to sleep. U like they did at some point And And in in his in his sort of desperation He he takes the silverware from the meal that they that they shared with him. And as he's leaving, his parole officer, Um Thatatch is them with the bag of silverware and And what happens is the bishop or like whatever, like the clergyman comes out and when when the parole officer Jean Valjean's explanation is they gave it to me and the parole officer asks Well, you know, did he and and the clergyman says, oh, you forgot the finest piece and gives that to him as well, evenven though he hadn't known that he had stolen it And it's kind of a turning point for Jean Valjean's life. But I think that's the part where the story goes from kind of based in reality to fiction because he uses it that the clergyman sits with him after the parole officer leaves and he goes, Okaykay, look, You and I both know what happened here The deal is you use this to become an honest man and he does. and u I forget how I forget how I got onto this subject, but I guess my point is Yeah, yeah, yeah, super based. But at what point hasas he made enough or so if he reaches that point where he you know, gets to lawbreaking you know, is there a moral obligation then Scale back to the abhorrent job and then scale back to the non abhorrent job. Like where there is there like a morality ladder that you climb in un How does this work? I think the reason why I was saying, like, you know, if you're doing those things U I basically just want you to recognize it. I'm not sitting here trying to condemn you is because I think everyone's line has to be drawn themselves S I think there are things that I could look at in the corporate world are And I personally see as like, I will never do this unless it's like basically life or death and it's like a job, so it's just never going to happen. But I could also see someone having a different opinion on those things. and checking, you know, maybe they believe in a in a more optimistic or brighter future of this certain type of technology or whatever else. And I think that's up to you. I'm not going to try to sit here and be Um You know, holier than now on everything. My reason for that example and there's, you know, I've had people reach out before and we're like, how are you talking about me on Wanchh show This has happened so many times, you have no idea. I'm not talking about you. I'm talking in vague terms. Go away But the example of like people coming and having an interview and being like, yo, I make really high six figures a year But I hate my job, I hate what we do. It pays on society, all this kind of stuff. I hate my hours. I hate my hours. That's another one. Yeah. And then us being like, yeah, we don't overwork your hours and we're mostly just kind of chill and then being like, cool, well, I need the same amount that I'm making and then balking at the fact that that's not even close to what's gonna happen Um That's where I kind of look at the situation. I'm like, bro. like come on, you need to be more real with yourself. The person in flopplane chat who's like, yeah, Palenter approached me But I looked at my situation was like, I'm fine and then said, no, that person drew their own moral line, right and was like, you know what? I don't like Palantir. So basically What it boils down That was up to them. I think that's important. You can't stand hypocrisy I think so is what it pretty much comes into There's like just so much of it, especially when it comes to literally anything that could affect a person financially Yeah, I think there's lots of examples of this. I mean, piracy is a great example that comes up often on our show. Piracy is a huge one. No idea why You okay Dan And I think there's like service issue arguments there like but everything everything is going to get ser security arguments there with respect to piracy or ad block or sorry Did I say two different words or were they the same word? I can't. But there is like actual genuine sizable security issues with ad blocks.alvertising is absolutely. It's absolutely a thing. So everything has gray areas and nuances to it, which is again, another one of the big reasons why I don't want to sit here and be like an arbiter of your morals. And why do you keep talking about how much you hate hamburgers I'm so tired of it, Lou. Hot dogs will not stand for this. I just yeah, I just think it's kind of interesting to me when Like you know there's there's, you know, there's engineers at some of these companies making millions But they just, you know, they don't have reports. They're just like superstar engineers at these companies and everyone will look at like just SamL I's like No H. There's more than that Yeah, And you know, they might be completely fine with what they're making There's a lot of people in the tech space that just believe in accelerationism. And they want to just charge tech forward and they believe that it will be a net good and all that kind of stuff. I don't thoseose are the ones I was talking about earlier, the ones that are that are drinking it. Yeah. like I But I don't even think that's like, I think they are self generating kool aid and also drinking it. Like I think there's people that are just totally in it. They're not like getting convinced by by buddy Sam or anybody else them. It just totally makes sense to them. I think that think that's non insignificant amount of people. I think there's also like entire basically cultures Like I've heard there are countries where it is way more accepted than it is in North America Like AI or acceleration. I was sure yeah. Like like It is just widely accepted by people. I mean, piracy is another example of that. There's entire countries where piracy is just like Well, yeah, that's like how you get How you acquire things? Yeah, We're not paying North American dollars for this. Yeah.'s never That's stupid. Yeah I would rather eat this month Yeah, cool. Yeahah Yeah, it's it's an interesting world. Um where were what topic was this? The Youer Booing AI? Yeah, that's funny Right, nice. Oh, hey, and other good news for good news WN Show. we have a new plan for the WN Show channel. We hear you guys loud and clear. having the live broadcasts and the clips on the same channel does not work for those of you who Still believe in subscription feeds. Bless your hearts So we are either going to rebrand the WN Show channel ip channel and then all the clips will that are already there are there and then it'll get new clips or because we've got so many people accustomed to watching the live stream there, and that's kind of the more important thing to us for now We are going to have that be the new WN S show channel and we will make a new new cllips channel. So stay tuned We'll just have to work through the rebranding conversation internally and we'll figure that all out. But we hear you guys We hear you And we have a plan We have a concept of a plan. And another group that has a plan, Wow, is this the Microsoft show? This is great news. Microsoft is ditching SMS two factor. Microsoft says that it will be getting rid of SMS or text message two factor due to it being a leading source of fraud, which absolutely is. like why why are they But why is Microsoft leading the a good job Good job Good job, Microsoft. Instead, Microsoft is moving towards past key and email verification U cool New Microsoft accounts are already going this route, only allowing those two for security options, but this change will be rolling back to older accounts over the next little while, which totally makes sense. That is an appropriate way to do that. Are we not getting like likeike authentication codes, We're only getting passkeys and email verification U I I don't prefer that only allowing those to, okay, I think I misinpreted that. Braille Cortex says Oh, this is gonna screw up so much at work We have a bunch of users with phones old for authenticator apps. That may be an issue You. Wh are you What are you talking about buddy Ril cortex Hold on. Android five point zero can support Google authentication. Denick says ran into this as well We had to get them company foot Oh, so this is a bring your own device thing So people are bringing their own device, maybe they're in like a developing country or something they're using like Ancient, like frreaking, what like what would that be? like fourteen twelve plus year old lollipop Android phones stillill support it So jellybean and kit Kat. would not support it. So stuff we were talking about when we were at NCIX Oh, NPC, it brings up a really good point. There are places that can't do smart devices, like if you work at a super secure facility So you'd be able to get your two FA via SMS, but via no like internet connected means. That's interesting Luola says BYOD was a is a mistake, always was Yeah, but like it's also a lot cheaper. And my God is it a lot cheaper. And a lot of people don't wantan to haul around two of everything. Yeah, I used to carry two phones. I had my personal phone and I had like build dum phone and then I had my work iPhone. I have or Blackberry rather at the time. I guess for different reasons. I have Android and iOS all the time so I can poke into flipplay But like The second that I was able to use my work cell phone plan and not pay my personal plan anymore, I was like, Yp, and I can just use that on the device I choose. Yep The only line in this that really stands out to me and I'm concerned about and might not be accurate is that they're only allowing those two options because like the the, you know secure, no internet connected devices workplace thing. you could use physical security keys like Ubi keys. you could I think the past key route would still be a little bit stronger in those cases, but still you have some concerns there. This is an interesting quest. I don't I struggle to see Microsoft disallowing hardware keys Yeah, hopefully hopefully hopefully just getting rid of SMS. Let's hope Yeah. Dee Hollander says this is an issue I've almost run into. I have to have a smartphone for work Do not provide one I must allow work to manage my personal device I pay a hundred percent of a cost for it That sounds illegal. Does't Samsunong have like that knox thing where you can like have personal and work profiles and stuff? Google has that too Do they? okay? Yeah And that's been for a long time. that's been for like over ten years now does does the iPhone have that? So this is interesting. Wiley Giraffe says illegal and McGarneagall says illegal But I'm trying to think, have we ever run it o, right, but we don't manage people's devices. So I guess that's the difference 'causeuse like, I think we kind of pretty much require people to have a phone Right I'm like can you canan you work here and like not have a smartphone and be functional? I don't think you can get in the building without a smartphone I mean, I can. No, yes, we gues you can, Yes you can. We have the fos Okay That's true. also exclive. but it's glued to my phone. Yeah I need my phone That's people' talking about to get to the building is t is there hold on.'s Let's work through it. Let's work through it. So you can you can fob into the building without a phone. You can obviously log into your workstation without a phone. Can you log into accounts? you can you do we have a two FA option That does not require your phone It's kind of depending' two FA on your laptop, the account that it is But, you could use twoFA on your laptop. Like Creative Cloud, I thinkat uses uses like one time password. Yeah I I have to. you can store you can store twoFA things in a passwordand. Oh, right. this is true. Okay. so yeah,per Keper can be used as your as your twoFA and your password manager. makes me a little uncomfortable. so I don't, but ye they swear up and down, it's fine. I think it is fine for probably most accounts. I'm sure it's fine Yeah. And I just amm not going to do it And that's fine too That's where I'm at on it. Okay, so is there anything that you'd have to L no teams you could technically do on your On your work issued device, we issue desktops and or laptops to everyone You could you could work here without a smartphone, I think. would Yeah, it's like it would suck. like When we did our Disney trip, you know, you wouldn't have been able to coordinate with people very easily if you like didn't have one. I guess you could swap phone numbers with people though I guess that would work, but you wouldn't be in any like group chats Not I think group chats is probably the thing I'd miss most about not having a smartphone Group chats are pretty useful I have elderly relatives right now and the only reasonable way to like have everybody be on the same page about like what's going on with sort of working through some of their financial stuff and like medical stuff is a group chat And I'm open to you guys having like other ideas for how to do that, but I really just I can't think of any other equally effective way Um Never really thought about it. So yeah, someone could come look could work here. They could have no smartphone. I'd be like, what You know It would be interesting to see like think it would significantly impair their job performance enough that it would be problem actually Beause like if they're up and about and they can't get notifications and stuff, like trying to find them with No so hard. Rod says just carry around your laptop I used to do that on campus all the time. Open all the time. Yeah, dude. I totally did that. The Mesh networking's pretty good. Yeah I figurered out. Yeah Yeah. Hh? G an iPad Parallelogram as U No, Aaria asked, but are they allowed to work there if they have an LG wing or would they be banned on principle That's a good question. I feel like if someone showed up at a, they'd become a like intercompany micro celebrity You think so. It's actively used in LG wing. Drops the wing day to day? Yeah. I think we actually require that as a disclosure during the application process. Do you use a wing or not? Do you use a wing or not? and then HR handles it Yeah.. so what would that be if we don't hire them? Are we wingested? You know that you know that like he owns a monitor meme There would be a meme of like they own a wing. We have a wall ready to put the picture of that person. Lig it's like one of the building sizes All right Harold Doe says all of our employees are certified wing chads. We don't hire anyone who seems well adjusted What a hiring policy that would be Why don't we jump into another topic here? I'm just gonna close that one A US suc man A contractor For the U. S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, also known as SISA, maintained a public GitHub repository called Private Dash Cisa that exposed Plain text passwords AWS Gv Cloud addministrative credentials private keys and tokens repository was up for roughly six months before it was taken down on may fifteenth. was discovered on may fourteenth. by Guillom Valadon, a researcher at the security firm, Git Guardian in my head cananon knows that they're called Git goodooden from now on, which constantly scans public code repositories for exposed secrets Valadan called it The worst leak that I've witnessed in my career. And just put that in context. This is someone who for a job scansed public code repositories for exposed secrets Valadon said he initially thought the repository was a hoax because the directories and file names were almost too obvious to be real sorry, this qualifies for goodood News WN S showow just because it's funny U Folders included All backups Backup dash april dash two thousand six Passic sorry ye Yeahah, twenty twenty six. Kubernetties dash important dash YamL dash files And Enterestpace ID dash samal certificates Files included were things like Important AWSTkens. TxtT External dash secret dash repo dash credits. yMl Yamel. Labs Matt in full plan chat said God said he titled is private though. They shouldn't have looked That's a good point. Scrappy DP ask well, what would you have named them? Fair enough, I guess AWS dash workspace dash firefox dash passwords. casv listed plain text usernames and passwords for dozens of internal CISA systems, including one called LZ DSO, which appears to be short for Landing zone DevSC ops, the agency's secure code development environment In total The repository held eight hundred and forty four megabytes of production infrastructure material, including tokens for CSA's interternal Jfrog artifactory, Azure registry keys, AWS credentials Supernetes manifests Argo CD application files, terraform infrastructure code, GitHub personal access tokens, and entra ID SAML certificates The commit history shows that the CISA administrator specifically disabled GitHub's default setting that blocks users from publishing SSH keys and other secrets in public repositories The archive even included explicit commands documenting How to turn off GitHub's secret detection feature Like seriously, it seems like a honeypot Right Like how just obviously brain dead it is We're not done yet. Yeah. On top of that was a H a drug. Many of the leaked credentials used easily guessed passwords.. Several followed the pattern of the platform's name followed by the current year Philipp. Catrra Joie Tterically Phelippe, founder of the seecurity Consultancy Serlis. tested the exposed AWS keys and confirmed They were still valid granting high privilegge access to three AWS Gv Cloud accounts He said the archive also included plain text credentials to Ceis's internal artifactory, which he described as a prime place for an attacker to move laterally and plant backdors into the software the agency builds Loys The repository belonged to an employee of a company called Nightwing, which is a government contractor based in Bills, Virginia The employee used both a CSA issued contractor email and a personal Yahoo email across the same commits, and the repository was created using a personal GitHub account That com U, but Philippe said The pattern is consistent with somebody using the repo as a scratch workspace, as well as to synchronize files between a work laptop and a home computer Git Guardian first reported the leak through the official portal on may fourteenth, but only received an auto acknowledgement After Valadon also alerted security journalist Brian Krebs, CSA took the repository offline, but it took until six PM Eastern on Friday, may the fifteenth. Okay Rosed AWS keys remained valid for another forty eight hours after the repository was deleted All right, Valadon noted that the repository was never forked based on public GitHub events, which suggests the secrets were probably not widely circulated Only GitHub itself can answer that definitively, though. The incident comes while CisSays operating with reduced staffing and budget. Since the current administration took office, the agency has lost nearly a third of its workforce, has not had a Senate confirmed director, and is now facing a proposed budget cut of around seven hundred seven million dollars it wasn't for four hundred and four million. We could have said budget not found. Yeah That would have been nice. That would have been funny. It didn't happen, though.. So it's not funny.ing Our discussion question is, it feels like cybersecurity events like this have been happening more and more. Why do you think that is? Well, I think it could be the budget cut of seven hundred seven million dollars maybe. Well, it could be to do with it. That could be part of that could be a contributing factor. I think there's a lot of contributing factors I think I think general global stress is really high right now, which can contribute to human error. I think budget cuts can be brutal. AI involvement has clearly increased bugs with a lot of different platforms lately. that's been fairly trackable. I think it's pretty tough for the public sector to attract top level contributors when private sector and crime pay so much more U De definitely a thing M you just look at like NASA rates versus rates at something like SpaceX or Blue Origin? Dude, I threw some way found out what like a super smart, like like a doctor who is a lot smarter than me Like not like medical doctor, you get what I mean. Like doctorate doctor I found out what they were making at NASA doing like crazy important shit. And I was like, what the fuck like withithout outing anybody or, you know, whatever, disclosing people's salaries. like we have people here who No here. Like we have people here who do like No offense to them, but like way less important stuff that D get out of here. Did you turn your camp? Yeah That' so funny. Oh my God. so funy. Yeah, L I was like, Oh man. John BR asked, but do they have a plus certification? Maybe not. That's a good point. That's why I don't work at NASA. I do That's the reason I do it. Seriously though, like we I was just looking at it going like, o man They must just really believe in the mission, which makes it all the more sad to see what's been happening with like budgets there and and them getting like pushed and pulled in every which direction instead of having like a clear point four mission into or something let's let's set up a base on the moon with zero point four percent of the budget. G rid of the thing. Let Let's spend more than that entire budget on like two months of shutting down a straight in the middle of nowhere ruin the world's economy. Anyways. Next topic. I like expensive fuel. Next topic. I'm a big fan Yeah, you would be right now. love It's so good.peaking me a big exam new lifetime Plex pass pricing. The good newews Wancho twist on this, I guess is Jellyfin. We're Yeahah We're gonna to promote alternatives to Plex. Yeah. On july first, Plex passass triples in price to seven hundred fifty dollars. This is after it more than doubled in price from one hundred twenty to two hundred fifty back in March of twenty twenty five That was just over a year ago for those keeping at home. Yeah. The blog post mentions thoughts of removing the lifetime pass entirely since subscriptions make more money The lifetimelex pass holders will see No changes because you already have it. I mean that's actually pretty based. I want to just Throw them a bone here I hate that that' the b world I hate that that's but that's the bar, Luke. That's the bar we're dealing with U There will be no changes to subscription pricing at this time. those last three words are key. At this time, There is still a list of features being worked on. There are planning improvements to downloads, support for playlists and a bunch of other things. No, I think some of this matters. Does it? because we're going to promote alternatives? We are, but give us a sec. Music and photo library support restored in the mobile apps. That's something that used to be part of PlexPass and then just was unceremoniously yoinked away, even though it was actually really cool new experience on TV app, support for NFO metadata All server and library management features currently available on the TV app will be added to the mobile apps. That's actually pretty cool. Audio enhancements such as booing dialogue and normalizing loudness, don't need that. That should be handled. yeah, I guess on mobile, that could be pretty useful. Additional transcoding video improvements, that sounds cool. IPV six support, that sounds cool However Last time I checked which admittedly was a little while ago. seven hundred and fifty dollars was still a lot of money Um, the couple of what a flleags, What a way to flleags. That seven hundred and sixty dollars is a lot of money. The last time you checked was a while ago. No, I just mean we were talking about inflation earlier.. And how like you know, a quarter was actually worth something when I was a kid and now is like not But the last time I checked, seven hundred and fifty dollars is still a lot of money Um what was they talking about? Right? Okaykay. So I want to I want to get this out of the way first. Here are the things T Plex' credit To Plex's credit, they arere announcing this ahead of time You are getting a chance to get in at that price of two hundred and fifty dollars It is Probably A strat to drive people to spend two hundred and fifty dollars today as opposed to maybe a hope that they'll spend seven hundred fifty tomorrow But I still appreciate a warning. I mean, I said the same thing when Nintendo announced a switch to price increase.. I'd rather know go ahead of time and have an opportunity if it was something I was saving up for I'd like to get a chance to go, oh, okay,, then I'll better do it now I appreciate that they're making no changes to the lifetime Plex path If you bought in a lifetime Plex passass years and years and years ago for a much, much lower rate, they're not messing with that. I hate that that's the bar But there's a ton of precedent for companies being like, well We need the money, so fuck you. And Plex didn't do that. That's it. That's all got Pux alternives. Let's talk about them. MB, a fork of Xbox Media center. Yeah. I remember functionality. Yeah And support's up to twenty five devices. There's a note here from I believe Pf It says I've used MBy. It's pretty easy to set up and use There's also Jelly Finn, the current like community darling, as far as I can tell. Also client server functionality, free hardware transcoding and tons of customization. And open source AF, which is pretty based. Y. And then you've got Cody, which is formerly Xbox Media center, no client server functionality, but otherwise it's pretty good for local playbacks. Our discussion question is what alternatives are viewers using? What do you guys Jellyfin is love? Jellyfin is like life? Yeah, a lot of that going around. It's going to be a lot of people saying Jellyfin. I had an interesting chat with Mr. John P, CEO of EhTech investment Disclosure. They make HexOS, which is a u based on true NAS NAS operating system. I They are like going hard at easy as close to one touch as possible A installs over the next little bit And this news has kicked their highinies into gear He told me they are actively, they just released six more apps and are planning one to two a week for many weeks ahead the team wants to prioritize. few new curations in recognition of Plexus price increases. We are actively working on Flatter, which is a Jellythin front end Jelly stat. which is a statistic tracker for Jellyfin. He says he thinks MB as well. and SR, which is a media request tracker for Jellyfin MB, and px. as well and says they're going to prioritize that and hopefully we're going to get a chance in the next little bit to do a video about it because I'm just Get real tired of the issues that I'm having with Plex. likeike I'm a lifetime passholder. So this literally doesn't affect me at all. There's no financial reason for me to change off of Plex My reasons for changing off thelex are what a buggy mess it's been They've been so focused on fast, Freehead supported TV and like becoming a legit media platform that they've forgotten their trricorn hat roots and their product for people who just have media files that they want to organize and they just want to stream them to their devices I forget how I started the sentence, whatever. they haves been they have made. They've made it a bad experience for the core functionality that sold people on the app And then they sit here and go Gee, why is everyone so desperate to build alternatives to this? Like guys because I don't Care aboutbout Plex TV I just want to browse my stuff. Get your stuff out of the way I don't care. That's why Like here, I'm gonna to see if I uh I'm going to see if I still if I'm still having this issue This may be unique to my folding phone. It's a tough thing. It's one of the worst things about having a folding phone is that whenever you encounter a bug Yeah. You have no way of knowing. Is this a bug with the software? Is this a bug with the hardware or is this just a bug with my stupid folding phone U me start. go original quality Yeah, okay. So the super weird issue my adventure time ps. Look at this Flashing. Yeah And if I transcode, it goes away, I never had this problem before with the exact same files that I've had for years and years and years Uh likeike I think I think I pl I think I ripped my adventure time discs when I was still living at my old place, so this would have been like four or five years ago never had this issue before and now it's doing that. It's like, okay, Cool. how hard is it to play it like play that's your core functionality. Play the media file over the network That's like If you can't do that, Wh What are we even talking about? What are we even doing here And I just don't know how to I don't know how to like Deal with that Come on, plex. I'm actually Still rooting for you And you know what? Oh right, I forgot my third I forgot my third silver lining point is that, hey, at least they still offer a lifetime subscription or a lifetime pass Like we've talked extensively about hating the move to creative cloud. and yearned for the seven hundred dollars software mines. Right? Be I mean that's what it used to cost a ton of flipping money. Adobe software used to cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars for that perpetual license And we kind of went, well, yeah, but at least we could buy it So to their credit, at least you can still buy a perpetual license, which they have shown that they are at least until now willing to honor, which is something but still not, still not a lot. and I'm really Excited to Dan, can you throw a poll into the floip plane chat. I want to know which one I should try first Jellyfinn Mb or Cody. I want the people to vote for me. Fullping polls still. It's going beellyin. I already know the answer. A a little broken. Throw firefox in there, for good measure. Yeah Turn up because anyone still knows that reference? Oh my goodness. when we did the shirt Do do the turn upure I so Yeah I want to fick another G. Wait, Ohh, we're supposed to do sponsors It Did we ever actually do this though? Oh I don't remember that shirt at all. No, I don't think we actually did that. We might have done something similar. Am I gaslighting myself Dude, I was trying to find The linus jump game from the verified actual gamer program. I's trying to find like any Evidence of that The the other day and it was hard. found I found a video of somebody on YouTube playing it, but like was not Okay. No, it existed I don't think it existed like that. No, no, no, I know Joy Finn has won probablyably yeah, well, that was expected. And it looks like Firefox and gaslighting aren't real are like Do makes sense. And That m sense. That makes a lot of sense How many pulls did you make? to U Yeah, I told I already told you guys. Okay, well I didn't know it was that broken. It's broken. There's like five of them. Cool. Thank. I did one earlier about the orphan crush. I just mean that's like that's three. So you're saying o, so you're saying it's beta, but in the like Linux software. No, it's not It's not beta. I have three developers. Oh this is broad That's what I'm saying No Hm Thank you, Todd Howard. Oh man U All right. where where are we Oh yeah, right. we're gonna Everybody wants a TV app. Nobody wants to do TV app type stuff. N Roka is terrible The show is brought to you today by you Green. It is time to stop carrying around large hard drives and worrying about limited storage on the go. 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I love Okay On Monday, a federal jury in Oakland unanimously ruled against Elon Musk in his lawsuit against Open AI and Sam Altman A bit of background on how we got here, Musk and Altman co founded openpen AI with other people as a nonprofit back in twenty fifteen to counter Google's potential dominance in AI. Yeah that just gonna have anyways. After about two years and thirty eight million dollars in donations from Musk, he left over a disagreement about who would run the company And now I don't want to spoil it for you, if you don't know already. But Musk thought he should be CEO of yet another company. Yeah, is this is missing some details, I think U Okay, let's see here. Open I then opened a for profit subsidiary and took billions of dollars from Microsoft. Yeah, this is missing some details, I believe. the him leaving over who would run the company is that he, I believe even suggested that they should make a for profit portion of the company and he was trying to push himself to be the mill shareholder. and the CEO and then left over that. So it's not that he he left because he was frr frustrated about leadership and then they just did the for profit thing. He was wanting them to go down that line and then left because they didn't vote him to be the coolest kid of the cool Kids cllub that for profit subsidiary is now valued at close to a trillion dollars, and he's like, give me my money. Musk has been asking the court for up to one hundred thirty four billion dollars in damages Cool The reversal of open eye's transformation into a for profit company because he has a competitor now, so would love for them to not exist. And have a competitor though? teechnically, o sure. And Sam Altman's removal from open AI entirely. His core argument was that Altman O opening eye executives and Microsoft had stolen a charity, meaning they had solicited his early donations under a nonprofit mission and then turned the company into one of those most valuable for profit businesses in the world jury rejected all of that, finding that Musk's charitable trust claims against Open Eye, Altman and Microsoft were barred by the statute of limitations. So basically, yeah, it was interesting because they didn't necessarily completely reject his arguments But it also doesn't matter because it happened ages ago and you're only mad about this now because what they did worked. I've been mad about it for quite a while. Well, you only mad enough to actually like do anything about it now that it's worth something. That's interesting. That feels like a lame dismissal for me. But anyways, with the lawsuit out of the way, OpenAI is now planning to file for an IPO, wow, even more in the coming days or weeks with the goal of going public this fall U So we'll have SpaceX and this slamming their their rods into the dud the gambling the gambling market sorry, I mean stock market is going to be a wild ride the next bit. Yeah. The victory is somewhat hollow though even though openen Eye won the case, weeks of testimony brought A lot of damaging stuff into the public record. Multiple former executives resurfaceed concerns about Sam Alaltman's management and trustworthiness, including the issues that led to his Rf firing as CEO back in twenty twenty three. Can you believe that that was only years ago. Yeah pretty. That feels like a lifetime ago in terms of like how fast all this stuff's been moving. Yeah been nuts. Musk says that he's not giving up. His attorney compared the loss to the early setbacks the American colonies faced against the British During the Revolutionary War and said they plan to appeal Wow. That's awesome. A lot of analysts expect this whole court case was Musk's attempt to trip up I've heard this a lot, to trip up openp AI's IPO plans so that he can IPO with XAI first. And there's there's a lot of arguments that he doesn't even expect to win. He's just trying to tie them up It's very, very interesting. The reason for the race, according to analysts is that there isn't enough free capital in the world to support two IPOs at the scale, two companies IPOing with over a trillion dollar market valuations. So whoever IPOs second might be left in the drags. They also warn more generally, that capital movement of this scale could cause significant volatility in the market and the stock market. And with SpaceX and this happening both within this year. It's it's going to be u It'll be fun to watch. discuss question. Do you think any of the stuff that came out about Altman during the trial actually hurts open eye heading into the IPO? or is the hype cycle too strong to be impacted I think people's morals completely stop existing when it comes to money and no one's going to care that anyone who cared that Sam Altman's kind of a douche bag knows it already. in the same way that anyone who cares that Musk is kind of a douche bag knows it already I think anyone who cares that they're both untrustworthy knows it already, and I don't think anything about this trial changed any of that. Yeah, I don't think so either. Very cool. Next topic. Samsung Electronics has narrowly avoided an eighteen day chip strike after reaching a last minute tentative wage deal with its It moved with its labor union on Wednesday just hours before nearly forty eight thousand workers. were due to walk out. This is like actually very good news because that would have been pretty bad. Yeah, it's also really cool for the workers. Yeah The walkout had been scheduled to run from may twenty first through june seventh and the agreement only came together after South Korea's labor minister stepped in to restart talks No this was likeaps. Dude, the fact this has been This has been looking like it like like they weren't going to make a deal and like it's not like SK Heinnix can just absorb like all the Samsung workers because they have like, dude, have you seen SK Heinnix's deal Like what I think it's fifteen percent of net profit This wouldn't have affected them at all right of the workers because it would have just diluted The workers take Sorry. No, I just mean they don't have enough jobs to absorb them all. So Samsung', like Samsung's workers used to put them in were not, yeah, they were not simply just going to be able to like all walk into other jobs. there would have thousand people There would have been a lot of loss for forty eight thousand people over this labor action. Yeah. And Samsung and just the general like DRAM supply of the world would have also been this would have been just terrible for everyone if they didn't reach a deal. Yeah Well, they technically haven't yet. Sorry, carry on. Yeah. the fight was over how to split bonuses from Samsung's booming AI chip business. The union had pushed for Samsung to allocate fifteen percent of annual operating profit a worker bonus pool and to scrap an existing cap that limited bonuses to fifty percent of an employee's annual salary, which compared to SK Hanx would be brut Samsung had resisted that demand, arguing that profit sharing across the company was because its memory division is making a fortune off AI demand, while its logic and foundry divisions are performing much worse The tentative deal sets up a new bonus pool with twelve percent of operating profit in Samsung's semiconductor division. That breaks down to ten point five percent paid in stock plus one point five percent st paid in cash. I feel like right now you want that. That sounds pretty good based on how things are probably going to go over the next couple of years.. Yeah. According to a company official That works out to an average bonus of three hundred thirty eight thousand US dollars. per chip employee this year The bonus scheme is set to last ten years and it's conditional on the chip division hitting operating profit targets. The deal did not the deal is not actually final yet. Union members are voting on it come may twenty second through may twenty. So they're voting lake. In dateline Is it yesterday or tomorrow? It's tomorrow. So they're voting on it like starting now Yeah. If they approve it, the agreement becomes formal. If they reject it, the strike threat comes back For context on how much money is on the line here. JP Morgan had estimated that an eighteen day strike could have hit Samsung's operating profit by between just roughly fourteen and twenty point eight billion US dollars. That's crazy. The compensation at rival company SK Heinex was a big part of the union's dissatisfaction abolished their bonus pay cap last year that led to bonuses more than three times higher than Samsung's and some Samsung workers had already jumped shipp to SK Hyx as a result Our discussion question is and this is This is a big one Could tech workers in other countries pull something off like this? I think it comes down to timing I think it comes down to timing and like what part of tech you work in I mean, significant parts of tech that are hyper shrinking right now. Like I remember talking about back when But these I think well, I think it's a fairly obvious thing that the only reason why this is working is because If the shutdown happens, they lose twenty billion dollars. Yeah, the gun that they have against Sam head is massive and it extremely low. It's a tank barrel. Yeah, It's like it's not insignificant. And they also can't necessarily just go and easily replace all these people. No. So that combination is like I mean, that's like kind of the whole idea behind collective bargaining It's just that I remember talking about this back when we were talking about like the writers's guuild Um and like the u the Sg Astra Yeah where I was like Hey guys I don't know if like your leverage is super high right now. They ended up getting deals, but they ended up getting really short term deals that not very great ones Yeah, it seemed it almost seemed like they they waited too long and the lost too much leverage before before making it before making a deal. You know what I mean? Whereas the timing from Samsung's Memory division is So perfect. It's so on point They're hitting Samsung at a time when To your point There's no replacement stream of workers for them Nothing because no one's leaving SK Henix right now. That's for sure. No chance. And the amount of profit to be made is worth almost any concession that they would have to give them. Apparently it's becoming like incredibly popular to put U SK Henx in your bio on dating apps Like you just auto win I was reading a thing about this Finus, can we rename the company Sure. I mean Why not I can think of some reasons why it, whyy not? Noy, write this down They got that big D ramp. orry, Gilmore Dee was sick. SK Hadx is Luke's chicken. Yeah Except it acts earlier actually. It's like almost Yeah, wow, a little better. That is some next level aphrodisiac. What do you do? How work at Sc Hanics. U nextext topic. U The FTC's strict anti deep fake rules are kicking in, maybe. On Tuesday, may nineteenth, the FTC officially stated and started enforcing section three of the Take it Down Act a federal law that targets the distribution of non conxual Nonconsensual, intimate photos and videos including AI generated deep fakes The ticket down acts was chaddest of things to wear. Heinck Lor Union cruising around? The ultimate status symbol look is simple. an SK Heynx employee vest. Yeah Sorry, carry on. That makes sense. Yeah. That'soky That's epic. Yeah. So I'm going to rewind a little bit. The takeake it Down Act was signed into law about a year ago and it allows the prosecution of anyone who knowingly distributes deep fakes or intimate images of any minor or non consenting adult Last month, a thirty seven year old man from Columbus, Ohio became the first person ever convicted under the law making more after using more than one hundred twenty AI platforms to create and distribute nonconsensual sexual images The piece that kicked in on Tuesday is section three, which holds digital platforms partially liable for hosting this content Platforms now have forty eight hours to remove a flagged image or video after they receive a takedown request And they have to pull down any identical copies at the same time, so victims aren't stuck reporting every re upload themselves Which is cool. Platforms are also required to offer a clear and easy reporting process that anyone can use, even people who don't have an account on the platform. That's good. Once a request is submitted, I'm actually really happy someone thought about that. That's cool. Once a request is submitted, victims get a tracking number that they can also share with law enforcement The week before enforcement started, FTC Chairman Andrew Ferguson sent warning letters to fifteen major tech companies. The letters warn that the FDC is monitoring the situation and that civil penalties can run up to approximately fifty three thousand dollars per violation This is part of a global push against AI generated deep fakes. The United Kingdom added a similar forty eight hour removal requirement to its crime and policing bill back in February. and in March, the European Parliament greenlit changes to the AI act ban nudififer apps in the EU. I'm assuming that's apps that take normal images and make them nude images. I think that's a fair assum. makes sense. Makes sense. I've just never heard of nudeifer before. As ever, there are there are people who are Here's the sound it makes. Wow. Okay, nice. that works. As ever there are people it does are critical to the it makes more of a This is a temporal argument right now.oy free speech advocates are claiming that the act can be abused as a censorship tool Be platforms may take down anything that gets reported rather than risk of fine. You know what, though? I think it's pretty easy tell when the thing you're removing is nudity or not. Yeah, I think that that's just a giant load of BS. There's there is the precedent for the DMCA being abused in the way that peopleople are kind of saying Oh no. think of the poor corporation. That's too. There should just be a reverse thing where if you like if you false flag, But in the age But in the age of AI, like maybe it could just do something useful like you know, be able to recognize if it's a nude person. I can absolutely see some famous person hiring a firm to aggressively use this to shut down Done abusive imagery though. Yeah I can absolutely see that. So I understand that concern. But again in that case in the age of AI, build an AI tool that checks is this nude Well, yeah, yeah, the platform is not going to want to take liability either way. but I also think that it's just It's in my opinion, you just reverse it. If it's like of obviously a attempt to censor something, Myious claim. Fineem A Well, that isn't a thing though. So I just should be that's I think that's how you counter wr it in my opinion There's I can't think of really much in the way of precedent for that Like, uh You get in trouble if you falsely claim that Like if if u You say that someone stole something from your store. So we're talking like defamation and libel at this point right But like As someone who has had reasons to look into that is complicated And it's very it's very difficult Yeah It's not simple Um, and like establishing because like it's a lot of the question is like intent Mhm And if you're going to apply penalties to something, whether they're like civil or criminal then there'ss it's a lot more complicated than just like, oh, yeah, you like made a false claim, therefore, like here's a parking ticket Um That's all I have to say about that What did Luke set up this week? It's not That's what everyone's burning question has been for the entire WN show. I promised in the intro though that thing that I alluded to the piece of fitness equ equipment that I alluded to taking U over three months to show up finally showed up and I setit it up last night and I'm happy about it. That's it Luke. set up. new fitness equipment. I going pre showed he was like it went pretty well. It was good. Yeah. I liked it. I actually like it quite a bit. I'm quite happy with it. Nice Does it make you sweat? a little bit. tellell us about it a little bit. Yeah, a little bit of sweat. Yeah. like wear specifically. And then now it's in between your pecks, like does it kind of drip down there? I was doing I was doing a chest workout, so yeah, a little bit nice. Yeah. So did it pool there a little just I'm trying to make this topic a little more exciting for the people, Luke. Yeah not really It's doing it for me, I don't know why I think we're ready to move on to Adark. What a great segue U Okay, Luke, you're talking about your chest sword. Mannerers after dark. Well, it might not be chest sweat. It could be neck sweat that made its way down to the chest. That's not sexy anymore. Okay, let's move on. You don't like neck sweat Whatever out we can do. All right first up, we got a bunch here Geez. Are you excited for the Canadian Grand Prix this weekend? Since Red Bull inv you invites a lot of influencers to their races Could your recent video with Red Bull allow you to be able to attend future races? I didn't know there was a Canadian Grand Prix this weekend. I don't follow motorsports. Red Bull. U they're in Ontario. Their relationship with us is prettyt straightforward so far. They send us Red Bll. I don't drink it, but some people here do. I drink it. I love drug water. Good. I'm glad I'm glad do productuctive and happy. If it does that, then I'm happy I wish you would live longer. Unfortately sugar free version. I unfortunately really like the taste of it You like the taste of red? I do I don't really drink it. That is the wildest take, but I like to off all of the takes. I it tastes good that have ever been taken on the WN showow. That is you don't even You're like, Like you're a hydrohomie. Yeah, I don't really drink it I know, but you like I do like the No, I love juice. I love pop I love energy drinks. Yeah, which all of which is fine. Who doesn't like juice, but like re. I also really like water. Like I genuinely really do like. This isn't hamburgers and hot dogs. You can like water and people Right I just Yeah, man, I only tried it once And I was like Wow It's piss water. Yeah yeah, don't I don't Yeah. it's interesting because I know a lot of people that don't like almost any energy drink flavor. What do they use for sweetener though I haveve no idea. Well, there's a sugar free one and I think there's also a Do they use like corn high fructose corn syrup, though No, apparently original Red Bull uses actual sugars, specifically sucrose and glucose. Okay I don't know which one I tried though. I don't know if I just tried like OG Red Bullf or if it was like Gamer Red Bullll or something like that. So maybe I maybe haven't tried billion flavors now. They do. They sent us a new one that's like vanilla and something you Um All right, All right, cool. anyway, our relationship with Red Bull is complicated. They They send us the Red Bull And I don't really drink it. And then one time they They wanted to give some really cool PCs to some pretty cool people And we made those PCs and those people were really cool. And then we gave them to them. They do more. They show to one of the whaleands, right? They did. ye. They did U you know, overall, they're just like they seem like a super cool company to work with and we really enjoy working with them. And I genuinely like he just laid out that they don't really work with us that much. I gain nothing from saying this. I genuinely think their form of marketing is like Very the fact that they support just a ton of different like athletes and people who are at extreme skill levels at a variety of different things. is really cool. Yep. There isn't actually a ton of that And usually when people get sponsors and they're doing those things, they're often for very little money. Yeah It seems like Red Bull actually goes in and like So I think that's really cool. If you can make your marketing relatively smaller communities like that, I think that's really awesome. And if you're gonna like blow a bunch of money on sugar water, then I'd rather you blow a bunch of money on a company like Red Bull that seems to do really cool stuff with it versus a company that had Death squads You know, it doesn't narrow it down That didn't happen in our in this country. so Yeah, that was the actual defense from Coca Cola, by the way They didn't say they didn't do it They just said it didn't happen here, therefore. It's not our problem Have I to you about the Chiquorita thing Uh this is the bananas, right? Yeah. Yeah They're involved with the overthrowing of like multiple governments. Yeah Stuff is a basic hobby loby was smuggling artifacts out of Iraq. Theres companies do crazy stuff It's wild We were driving myself and some of the labs guys were driving down to Puget because we were visiting Puget recently. and I saw a hobby lobby and it just like fact just slammed itself back into my brain. I was like, oh yeah, That's crazy. Anyways. Anyway, so yeah, cool, Red buull. I forget what the question was. Oh yeah, right. I don't know anything about really motors sports. so I didn't even know that was happening, but it sounds cool We're gonna do some F one stuff. I love F one There's got toa be some way we could do something that makes sense there They do really interesting tech with their cars all the time, actually. There's gott to be some form crossover. Oh cool. And always controversial as far as I can tell. Yeah. As far as my understanding goes, a lot of people that watch F one watch it for that. Dude, F one I'm a manufacturer watcher. I watch less racing more car. Yeah. Aazing. F one seems to have an even higher like controversy to content ratio than we do. It's somewhat remarkable actually They just there know, but they hit a Marmaet. There's do something ome a controversy. They hit a groundhog at like at a race at a race How the devil did a groundhog get onto the track They apparently happens every year. And there's like corners that are on purpose? No, accidental. It's not ground hog get onto the, I don't know'st release ground hogs It track It's an F one track. happened by accident they live now ono the track. What do you mean? Well I don't aret don't the tracks have fences? Like I don't know. I've never been to an F one track Wouldn't they want to keep groundhogs off the track for safety Yeah, I think the groundhogs can find a way dude rafty groundhogs. M mayaybe I'm thinking How big are groundhogs How beif about the size of like an airhole. So like look at this. the F one track in Montreal, there is a fence, but there's also green between the fence and the track. Well and how big are these Dude Th these things can be like two feet big. These things are Yeah, these things are freaking huge. They took the car out of the race and apparently a couple of years ago they were kind of like there was a whole corner just kind of maybe coodated What? Ew. Oh, that's awful. Yeah, so they could just dig under the fence I guess. If you was saying there has to be gaps in the fence. Yeahah, but there's there's okay, so the picture that I wasing, let me look at it up again Um, not the corner You're not gonna look up the corner, are you? Oh, no, that I thought you were look up the corner this is a reference. because like, yes, there is a fence from the outside, but there's also a green space here. It's a groundhog. it could go under Yeah, I guess Well, it shouldn't do that, then T it tell it that's won't again. This is interesting. Sorry, we one wont. We didn't get this. Last passast Canadian consonsumer privacy cllass action settlement If you reside in Canada and were affected by the twenty twenty two last passass data breach, you may be eligible for compensation. someomeone posted in floatplane chat that they got like a one hundred dollars or something like that. Wow. Yeah So wasted time, out of pocket expenses, crypto claims, distribution of funds. So if you guys wantan to like check that out, it's been pretty cool carry on Hey, LDD, An advice on getting organizational buy in for ATch situational awareness mapping? It requires similar permissions to social media apps for tactnical ops. How do to address concerns It's like find your iPhone for No, I was saying I know what ATch is. The thing is what for what What military bros Yeah, yeah, But what is their organization? He how do I get organizational buy in? but it's like for the military, I assume, then No, the military uses eight. Yeah. exactly. So like some military somewhere, I guess need organizational buy in, likeike who else would use it? I don't know. I couldn't figure that out No some people use it for like like hiking and stuff. Um Android Team awareness kit. you can there's actually a lot of interesting civilian applications for ATC But this is why it's like I don't know Oh yeah, ATC public release. hereere we go. Yeah. like it it's actually discontinued Yeah So ATax civilian, hereere we go. Yeahs people are absolutely first responders licensed commercial developers Distribution for ATax civ is through approved government hosted sites, direct commercial sales, this version has no ITAR capabilities Okay. Uh have I don't know This seems a little outside of ouroyalhouse. It really dramatically depends on like what your organization is. Yeah. If you guys are I used to work at a bread factory. If you guys are at bread factory, I can't imagine that ATAC makes any sense. Yeah, mayaybe you shouldn. I don't think you're going to convince anyone. You might need that for Linus. Do we still lose you? L do you still have an airlag? That could be used. Has that stopped happening? now never had on your? ATAC tracking for Linus could make a lot of sense U So according to Wikipedia in Canada The Royal Canadian Mounted Police Eergency Rponse team uses it as well as the Canadian Army, and that's about it And then in the US, it looks like it's military, law enforcement and emergency services In all of those applications, I think it seems kind of common sense that it's pretty useful. U So I have no idea what you're trying to do with do with it, man, where people are not on board Sorry. I feel like Yeah, I don't know Yeah. I of like civilian mapping and tracking of certain things through SivTack is like an interesting thing for for hikers or people who live like just really far out there and have a ton of land and want to have it and stuff. likeike this is a thing that people do U I just have I have no idea what your company is and can make no recommendation because of not knowing I assume it's safety related. Like it must be remote Usually it's yeah. yeah. It must be like remote, something, location, safety, something And I mean, at the end of the day, if somebody like really doesn't want that, then I don't think you can like really force them self explanatory. Yeah, like if you if you like benefit from it from like a safety standpoint, then you should probably just like be on board. and if you don't benefit from a safety standoint or or it's like a privacy invasion, then maybe you shouldn't have it Yeah. Yeahah Hey LDL, what is each of your favorite Pokemon getting back into playing with my kids? Yes, more leggings when I love mine and need more. Oh, hey, did you see we got a Pokemon pinball machine Did you try itet? I did demolished immediately. c Right It's pretty cool over? Yeah, it's pretty cool shhiny. Yeah pombasaur Yeah and squirtle. It has a squirtle whirlpool Wh did we get one? because try send it. Yeah. we sent back our Dungeons and Dragons and they exchanged us a new one. I guess that's our I guess that's our system now is we just kind of always have a pinball machine. And then they send us a new one and we use the packaging for the new one to send back the old one. That was not intentional. I think Stern had really intended for us to keep the packaging for the Dungeons and Dragons one and send it back in it, but we didn't So now we have a new system. And I can play Pokemon pinnball. Yeah I hung out for like forty five minutes yesterday after work, just playing some Pokemon Pinball. I got the high scores I think I have like one to six or something like that. So I put in like poo and ass and all the good stuff. That's good. Yeahah, that's good Very good. Yeah What is your favorite book Oh, right, sorry. I feel like I feel like we've I feel like we've asked this before. I just like I don't I don't know if I care Maybe one of the like super evolved bird ones that are like cool and like some elemental. Like what's the what's the cool fire bird from here original. H, here, here, here Just jumping back to this. A tax save, civil use. five hundred plus thousand downloads. Over thousand plus. There you go Pople use it. It just it's like it's yeah. There are quite a few applications outside of military stuff of just like having a good map and knowing where things are and whatnot All right. Mle trees seems pretty based That's your that's your favorite Pokeon? No, I don't Uh, this matters a lot Okay. What do you mean? you don't care? I mean, I like TOud. I don't I don't know. Okay. Okay, he's happy now. Yeah. I just have to care about it and be very invested. Where's your whereere's your full art? Fllow card that costs seven thousand dollars of ge dude I have no chice I keep it in in a vault just like any responsible person would. Yeah never look at. I never show it to anyone. Good. Yeah. good including you, sorry. No that's So honestly, fair. okay Okay it's yours. dude Oh my go I don't think there is one l pris Oh my go Oh there is a full art. Wow kind of don't know How expensive is it? How much is this Hey, that's not too bad. I't know Kadabra is my favoritekem All right There is not Alex Zam, really? Noope.iddle you like the middle evolution. I didn't have anyone I could trade with That's Wow, so the Pokemon was your friend. Yeah. That okay, I can see why you bonded with it I always liked the yeah, the middle evvolution ones of the ones that you couldn't trade Well, that you could trade to evolve them. and that was the only way So on the subject of that sort of companionship, We were chatting in a writers' meeting today about the local AI, like what would we do with it? And Apparently Altman posted a blog post or a tweet or something. He posted somewhere recently asking like, you what do you want us to work towards for the future of AI over the next five years And um The number one response was companionship And we all kind of That's why I was like kind of being real when I said the whole AIYifu thing. like ye that will be a use case that people do care about Will it be A man. I don't know that that's a use case that you need to promote. Yeah. bought it. It is something that people care about Is this is this the one you're talking about U tweet Yeah, is that f, ye that's It's interesting to me that he's still tweeting It like on Musk's platform. Yeah. I mean There's nothing for all of its warts and there are many warts, some on its genitals I've seen them U There's nothing like Twitter. Wow. There's nothing exactly like Twitter just because of the userase that's already onud it I don't think it's the feature set or anything like that. Just basically everyone has one. I don't think the feature set was ever the feature of Twitter though. really It always kind the feature set always sucked. It was like it sucked by design When it very first launched, it was kind of interesting I wasn't interested in it, but obviously it was interesting because a lot of other people were, but I got on Twitter I felt like I had missed the boat. Like I got on it super late. I'd stubbornly avoided it I think until I was starting to think about brranching off from NCIX and starting my own company and I was like, okay, I should probably have a social media presence, I guess Twitter then I use it these days. I'll reach out to someone in DM's and like see if they're interested in chatting. And if they are, we always go off platform And it's like Not even always me that suggests it, but it is all of the time Let's head let's take this over to Discord, shall we? Yeah like or sometimes text messages, whatever, but like Oh, we didn't talk about Discord making voice calls encrypted by default No opt in. Oh Wow. Yeahah. I didn't know that was a thing. That's cool. That's cool is texts still not. Apparently there are architectural challenges. It was built for plain text and it would like break a bunch of stuff. As far as my understanding goes, there's quite a few architectural challenges with different really cool improvements that could come to Discore text stuff. likeike I asked why certain character limits and things were a thing to a discord engineer once and they're just like, that's just the stack. man, we can't really change it very easily. Beuse I was wondering like seemeems weird Like it seems like you would just win so hard so fast if you made corporate discord Like just make it so people can have I know you can do a per server profile, but make it so that people have two primary profiles. one of them is more work related. one of them is more personal related You can switch between the two. It even has a different like server and DM list for each and make it so that you have higher level of authentication, some type of SSO thing to be able to access those servers and then change Almost nothing else. Like it would take so little and they would sweep an incredible amount of companies just right away described as an account switcher. It's very close to what I was saying, but not exactly because I want them to be One of them would be like corporate SSO That's the important part, not the account switching part. So maybe I didn't make that very clear. Willingspy says, but then my boss would know when I'm gaming at work. But no, I think the way that Luke has architected technically Oh, they would. No, technically no. Yeah, no, they wouldn't Yeah. So he's on he's all over it. He he's all about gaming while he's supposed to be at work. Don't worry, he's st. It's I think like because basically once you have SSO and you can Basically knock people out of the server based on SSO And you can manage people's permissions based on that as well, that massively increases your chance of being in the corporate world. Once you can crank up the message limit because there's some issues there. And a couple other relatively, they seem small, but apparently the message limit and stuff is not a small problem. But I genuinely think with like the complaints that people have about teams, the expense level of slack and a couple other things like that, Dcord would be massive if they entered the corporate space. and it has just been The two things that happen in the communication world or didn't happen, I guess that have been just fascinating to me over the last while is that Google Let Salesforce buy Slack mind blowing Just We will never get over the fumble that happened there. And then that discord has not gone corporate Yeah Both of those things are so interesting. Well I think I'm gonna add one. I'm gonna add one that Skype squandered their head start. Dude That one still my God The fact that the pandemic was Zoom and not Skype Wild, insane. Wild. M used to be a verb. like Okay, No I' to tweet it.'m It's a pretty. I'm gonna to add one more. Oh now there one more. I'm gonna add one more. Just the trail of corpses Microsoft is left Google hangout other hangout. They didn't chat other chat, freaking meet, the other meet, like the fact the fact that Google's completely scattered. ship a product, get a promotion approach, made it so that they're not a competitor in that space functionally at all. Dude' just mind blowing. They just bought slack and just made it so that meat and stuff was just like a web portal version of Slack. They would just own write Yeah, it's still so stunning to me. I forgot GCat. That was another name for their various like chat Like it it's it's mind blowing how how much Google has screwed up when that's like a foundational part of G Suite or sorry Google Worspace communication that we have to have two services just because Google doesn't have feature parity with something as crappy as Teams. Man, Teams phone calls lately have been so bad. Teams is really rough. So bad recently. It's hard to pitch to not be on teams because teams is so cheap But Teams is a very rough experience. All right, hit us in. Yure, what's up boys? Linus I noticed. Unless I looked wrong. The new blank shirtts's a fifty percent cotton fifty polyester. They used to be sixty cotton, why the chain Because the mill that we're working with now for the fabric doesn't do a six thousand forty and their're fifty fifty. passed all of the same tests with respect to durability handand feel, non shrinkage, printability Functionally, the shirt was the same enough that we just couldn't come up with a reason to care about the blend change I've always I've always liked the I've always liked the feel and the durability of a cotton poly blend. I was never married to sixty forty. The only reason that we did sixty forty was because that's what American Apparel did on the blanks that we U to use Back when American apparel was like kind of the premium choice for blanks versus your like Gilden or Haynes or whatever else next level apparel, all the various all the various ones because they're still good. We go by the end result performance not by the composition necessarily A D L Oh. Is there anything new that piqued your interest or got you excited recently? Thanks for all you do Poland Capital D Oh man, there's always something, but like I feel like it's one of those things where I will I'll send an email being like, Hey, add this to writers's meeting. and then it falls out of my brain because I have already written it down U Something that excited me recently. A I'm going to check emails I've sent while Luke thinks of something Is this like a new piece of technology or an idea or what's the Anything that p your interest or got you excited recently? anythingthing underline? Labs articles. He' sa saye for wor. Ls artles have been really fun. We had some come out recently that people had some stronger feedback for. We're working on that, but in general, I've been having a lot of fun with those And I was talking to Lucas about some ideas for labs articles before the show and was getting kind of excited about them. Um, want to look into battery technologies and their strengths and weaknesses, that should be kind of interesting. These are all ideas. I don't know that we're gonna do any of these, so relax U Another thing I wanted to do is like You know, I saw There's this like, there's a lot of memes that just perpetuate forever. and one of those that I saw recently was like You know Looking at my computer these days and really asking that ten eighty to just hold on for yet another year And that's been a meme for years now Um And I was kind of thinking like we should just build a computer that would have been popular in the ten thousand eighty era and see how it's doing these days. because I've talked on the show before about like My buddy's kid who's playing arc Raiders with a ten eighty And it's like, I feel like you could play a lot of currently decently popular games so the ten eighty st still. L like it's actually probably still mostly fine. Yep. You might start to run into some like feature support issues. Yeah. And like you can't you literally just can't play Indiana Jones. Yeah And there's going to be some other games where you're going to lack some features that would be nice or lack some performance here or there. But I think a lot genuinely a lot of games you could do at an okay level. I'm excited about this Dan, I just sent you a picture and a video in that order Yvonne and I were out for one of our classic Midnight connection walks. Oh, you know, when we just we go out in the middle of the night and we just we go for a walk because You know, home is full of distractions and and, you know, work and kids and all that kind of stuff. So we just we go for we go for a walk and Well, I'll hold on one quick thing can you Can you crop in the picture DJ the creator said I had a twenty sixty super with no complaints on anything and only upgraded for more VRAM which sounds like a complaint on V ramp. But as we were walking We discovered this That's a driveway An alon and two computers at midnight. Midnight computers, you might call them Uh If you could that club computers. if you could if you could play the video I'm just watching it right now. The video's fine. It's clear. Here's a better look. There's a bit of condensation on the one But That's a ninth gen No ram in that one. No ram This one contains a GPU though Um So I asked my wife who is toolerant person, certainly, to be married to me for so long Hey, can you I was chivalrous, by the way. I took the one with the power supply in it But I asked her, I said, hey, kind of inconvenient request, but can you carry one of these computers home for me And so we finished our walk computers in arms and they are now in my fire truck because I'm dailying the fire truck right now And I got to unload them. And then once I do, I'm going to fix those computers. Have you been pulled over? And I'm actually pretty excited about it. I have not But I did have what is so far probably the most fun experience driving of my life I I've drove past an actual emergency at which there were firefighters, like a chill emergency though, like a no big deal, like fender nder And there was an actual fire truck that had responded to it with actual firefighters who had mostly mitigated the situation and were just kind of standing around by that point And they they they watched me drive past You should have roll the window down and be like, me. I didn't think of it. I wish I did. Want an extra pump? I didn't even like see them there until they were until I looked over and and buddy's like Dumb stuck This is so good. It's like a scene of a movie, man, it was so good. I thought you would have gone past an actual emergency just pointed out of the window and been like, ha No I can't help you. Totally not qualified In an internet Yeah an accident lastast responder. Yeah. So people keep asking me like daily in the fire truck. I mean, look, I'm not going to buy a fire truck and go to the work to get like my airbrake ticket and then not daily it for a bit. I promised my kids that I would take them to school one morning in it. So that was actually one of the things that Yvonne and I were doing on our last midnight walk is scoping out Obviously they have a fire lane at the school or whatever, right? in case the school's on fire. usese that. I'm not a real firefighter. so I need to just drive through like the normal drop off loop. So I've kind of scouted out all the turn radii to make sure that I think I can actually get through there during the you know morning hubub Um How was that That the scouts mission Do it you have not haven't done y it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we we just went for a walk the other night Um So far, so far like Surprisingly little attention actually. It's it's like it's hiding lights and sirens aren't on. Yeah, you're you're hiding in plain sight. like nobody Nobody looks at a fire truck that is not speeding towards an emergency. It's like the most normal thing and yet Um It's an unusual thing and yet the most normal mundane thing Nobody cares that it's not a firefighter driving it. They just People don't seem to register my presence at all. I'm not surprised you haven't gotten in trouble because I know it's like within the law. Technically legal. But I am surprised you haven't been pulled over yet and them just be like So what's up with that? Yeah. Yeah. It's also but like why I'm moving my fire truck from one place to another place. There is there is a thing and I know this kind of bothers people, but it's like an obvious fact. There are too many laws for police officers to actually know all of them ike it's just a thing. They have to debate about laws constantly in courtrooms like this is problem So I'm not surprised one of them didn't just pull you over and go like I just thinkink this is illegal, but I don't know. hold on for a secondc. Let me figure this out That's what I'm like kind of expecting to happen. And I'm expecting them to go back to their car and then come back after a while and be like, wow, this is really cool. You're free to go, but could you show me around wouldn't be surprised either Our cops in this area are generally like pretty okay from my experiences with them. so if that doesn't sort of vibe with your experience with cops in your area, I'm sorry to hear that Um I just mean like a lot of people are going to hear your account of what a cop how a cop might behave and go like know people range all over the place. Yeah. Yeah That doesn't, you know that I'm sure there are cops here that would have a terrible experience with you doing that. I'm sure there are There are cops in those areas that probably aren't as bad either. Yeah peopleople do be be in people Note that I didn't say Canada I said in our area. RCMP has done some stuff So make of that what you will All right Dan, hit me again. Hey Land Duke and Dinas, with Whaleand being this weekend, what has been the most valuable piece of information that you have learned from each one past Wish I could be there to join you guys Um Oh man, first one. Layout. was the biggest thing at the first one. The layout was like basically It was planned ahead of time, but we just kind of discovered some of the plans that we had M going work So had to undo those plantans. At the second one, I think we really optimized the load in and load out in a big way. Time was way down for both of those things. U firstirst one, we had some networking issues. secondecond one, we had some issues with the eight V eight gaming setups I've been told, knock on Wood, that both of those are solved for this time around. We worked on both of those Sing anything is solved is asking for it I doocked onood. I think this is is this MDF for wood Dan quick. It's. What it's what? It's what it's. Oh than goodness Hey then we should be fine. Okay. yeah. All right No it's That was a good measure. Job, J just make a sure. Al. Yeah. I feel like I heard that. That wass rough You like actually knock on your pelvis bone I swear I heard or not. I knocked done something Jeez! tryry not to think about it too much U Moving on. Love the clothes Liness, why know blank, tall white shirt. I would drive from Long Island, New York and personally pick up a crate of him if you had them U So the white shirt is still like a new it's a new fit for us. It's like the boxier, more modern fit and We just kind of need to see the numbers and then if it sells really well, then we'd love to do more fits. U in time, some magical time far away from today. We'd love to do like regular, tall, husky, tall and husky. We'd love to have women's fits. We'd love to have all different fits for our apparel. But our lives have been complicated by having multiple distribution centers and I feel like this is my opportunity to do a quarterly reminder. We are still in the grand scheme of things, a really small company from like a like an apparel company sort of scale conversation. We are more often than not ordering the minimum order quantity for things and then you know really figuring out how to move through the mull Right? Like we're not. you know, And so we're doing our best. We're going to keep doing our best. and I'm just I am really glad to hear that you, you know love the product enough that you wish there was more of it and we' we're going to keep working hard to make that a reality Hello LMG team. Yes, please disorphids on local LLM stuff. And as for a question What are the data engineering tools used at LMG and Floatplane, if any Ha engineering tools 're up. What defines a data engineering tool? I assumed you'd know I also assumed Lke would nice solid Orchestration and workflow management. So like would A N count here No orrchestration One of the things does it orchestrate Uh, Microsoft fabric. We use a bunch of things to deal with data. fllipple side of things has like a variety of data views. We use Cooljet is an underlying system for a certain data view that we use on the Greater warehouse side of things. Oh yeah, no AnN would count. Definitely. That's Yeah. There's a variety of things that we do We don't have anyone super specifically in a role of like data engineer. Again, reminder grand scheme of things. we're still a pretty small company. Yeah carry on. But we do have sets of data and we do build views for them. We also have some orchestration stuff Um, Yeah Sorry, not the greatest answer Um Nothing we do an air table would qualify for this, right Most of it probably. Yeah Okay I think it like kind of would, but not in the not in the way that I think the person asked the question. in my opinion. Like the traditional Data enineer Yeah, which I don't think like how we either of those systems would count for that. Honestly, I don't think we're really doing anything that would fully acc for what I think this person is really, truly asking we have data, we have views on that data, but we're not doing ton of stuff with that data It doesn't React Yeah the new data that it gets. if I can kind of And you build charts and then people read them and then they do stuff and then we read the charts again and's reactive to like Oh, you know, things are going down. so let's automations. Well Not that kind of down Num line go down. Yeah, not Serviceices down. ye. I doesn't say We do have the Kubernetes wizard, Jonathan himself But that's not I don't yeah, yeah, not that kind of down U moving on. We got lots to get through still. Yeah. Good morning from Oz, LE and Floaters. Saturday morning doneone right watching WN show with a coffee and my lady. Nice. I see you Sfrina. My Pebble Sarafina Sorry, it's all highlighted in blurry now My pebble time too is shipping soon. Are you getting one, les Oh, I didn't remember to order one M. So no I'm gonna make a note for myself. You know what I got Yeah. We're got to fitir How's that going for you? It's not here, he're not wearing it. Oh, okay Theoretically shows up next week. How long before you lose it That's that's a major concern. Everyone in my family that I've told that I'm getting one I don't buy things often, so I've kind of told everybody. everyveryone in my family that I've told I'm getting one is like H How are you gonna have that for? But I'm hoping. I'm mostly looking for the sleep tracking stuff. I like that it doesn't have a screen on it That was actually a big selling point for me. Cool No subscription, no screen on it. There is a subscription you could But I'm not doing that Hey DLL, is it just me or is software more buggy these days Maybe I'm working at a higher capacity than before music and video projects, but it's been extra tough when something breaks every week No, everything's always been a piece of sh As as I can tell I've kind of got the vibe that stuff is more buggy. I think it's easy to point at AI and I think that is partially to blame, but I also think stability has not been something that has been chased by pretty much anyone I don't think a lot of people are making decisions based on stability these days. Everyone knows that Premiere crashes all the time professional side of things is really not shifting anything other than Premiere yet. But Premiere has always crashed all the time as long as I've been using it People are not making market decisions based on that. So like it's not going to be important until that happens I just I don I'm just I'm trying to I'm trying to think back Cannon Zoom brrowser was a piece of garbage that crashed all the time Windows ninety five was a piece of garbage that crashed all the time Um You know, Nero Burning Rom was a piece of garbage that crashed all the time. Like I can't count the number of times that I've seen that star craft crashed eror that had the cool I forget if it was, I think it was a raith on it Like I just think I automatically interpreted this more as websites than anything. And I know I gave my premier example, but I think I would websites primarily thinking of websites. I a had a conversation recently where I looked up U websites two thousand six. Let me see if I can find ye, Web desesign Museum. This was super interesting I didn't know about this website, Web Design Museum. And I just looked up again, websites in two thousand six newew gnds look at Apple I'll try. Computers. Remember when Apple cared about computers And like primarily. Yeah, and iPods were like an afterthought. How similar the Mac Mini still looks. That's amazing It's like N CIX. I wonder if they just ripped it off. I even noticed like websites that look kind of more modern, like this Nike Air website looks pretty modern. That looks super modern, but it's not That looks amazing. Once you actually blow it up, like you have the Oh wow. the weird circles. Yeah. This is actually not a rotating horizontal banner at the top of the site. like every single store on the entire planet right now. It's actually just a big splash page This new Super Mario Bros website like feels like a magazine U things especially things are just generally very unique. Motorlla's website was a phone m sense Super cool Um Pired by. Super interesting. Battlefields website. that's great. Everything felt Very unique Yeah. and these days everything feels the same. And on the website of things, I don't feel like things have gotten like less buggy at the very least. But I've also like I haven't lost like a massive text input that I put into a website in like years. Like there's certain things that are that I that I find to be may maybe not more maybe not less buggy, but certainly more refined. My expectations are higher features. My expectations are definitely higher today. and I wonder if that's part of why things feel more buggy when they've always been very likely the case. I think that is still in line with kind of what I was saying though, which is that people want features over stability. I also think that it Like maybe for me, I'm looking at everything over a long enough time period I see it as just sort of ebs and flows Like I remember having a conversation with someone when I like wasn't freaking out about the ramppocalypse because I was like, well, yeah, like kind of like how it happens sometimes, right And they're like, no, no, no, like, you know, like this is Like this is really bad. And I'm like, yeah, like kind of like how it's bad sometimes, right? And then like later it'll be good And u You know, like how it happens. Sople you just you swing too far one direction and then you start and and and it will. They're going to build a bunch of capacity And then AI demand is going to go down at some point. and then RAM's going to be like L dirt cheap. I don't know how long it's going to take Anywhere there's money to be chased Somebody will chase it. until there's no money to be chased, and then there will be a supply glutot. Like it's just It's just kind of how this thing, it's kind of how this whole thing works. And so I guess I kind of see it the same way. likeike people will peopleeople will demand better stability in their applications until everything's like kind of good enough. and then You know, people will try to differentiate on features and then those features will be buggy and then someone will differentiate on stability. everythingverything's just kind of I've kind of like this What do you have Ha Ha it fun Is that a selfie with a point and shoot? Wow. two thousand six, man. That's pretty basic. Bl and having fun. Who even needs to see the preview of what they're taking the picture of? I'm going to McDonald's. I love it. Select country and markarket good, dude. Some of these websites are just awesome. the semantic safety town provided me a lot of old websites too, where like things on this neighborhood were probably clickable. Right. Yeah. U Yeah, when you couldn't tell what was interactable on a site, it was actually it was pretty annoying, but also like kind of fun Yeah because your cursor would change. You were surfing Yeah. You're surfing the web man. Whoa Oh, that's pretty cool. So many gradients Nobody uses gradients anymore. I love gradients. Gradients were like super popular in design as of a couple of years ago. I think we gradients. They should be popular forever I love gradients Hell yeah Let's go, dude. I haveve the two thousand four Steam client burned Get that shade of The shade of off green is part of my body That's so legit. Can we do a steam green shirts I don't know, old internet, it just feels way cooler All right, hit me Dan Hi, Line us playing through Crosscode right now. What were your thoughts on the overworld chests and the three aspect of the game? Sometimes I spend a ton of time figuring out how to get one chest Oh, it's one of those things where I enjoyed the game so much for its story and combat that I kind of forced myself to want to enjoy some of the overworld jumping around U I think I kept doing it because when you nail it and figure it out, it's so satisfying. so like you get that rush, but the rewards often sucked So it's not that and the like megalong dungeons in particular. time you have to do two back to back are sort of the the flies in what is otherwise a very delicious ointment, yum ointment Hey Linus Luke Dan. I'm an airplane mechanic and usually run into interesting issues that call for a weird troubleshooting. What iss the craziest troubleshooting stuff you've tried on anything No, it's got toa be that motherboard that I fixed by bridging a I think I ran a wire between two fan headers.iffere fan headers. Yeah I still don't understand how that fixed anything I don't I I really need you to do a video on that thing because I don't understand how you thought to even do that in the first place. I was desperate, Luke. But wait, what does that mean? I don't remember It was ten years ago. What? It just Oh I've never thought like, oh, I'm desperate to get this working. I better wire these two fan headers together. There's something, which is awesome. No I just don't get it. There was something that happened I caused the one that burned to burn And the trace like flared up. so you knew look that. Yeah. So there was something intuitively told me, but if a fan hader trace Llayers up. Why does bridging another one to it make the computer boot? S Ro But if the fan header doesn't work like, who cares? I don't remember why I thought that would work I'm sorry, I just don't remember. I really wish I knew that shhorted out. So adding another wire that would make it worse Yeah, doesn't make any sense. This is I don't get it. Wh why why are you not why don't you understand this? It's so if you remove that wire, the computer does not work Like nothing. if you put that sugar, but it doesn't make sense. It instantaneously works. No, it hurts my brain. And I don't know a lot about that stuff But it still is so confusing to me Um he's a witcher Apparently But like it takes his under a time crunch too. Like the whole thing is just so wild Yeah It sounds fake. And's It's unfortunate how few people like knew about it because somehow That got pulled out of the edit No, the remastered like all episodes together upload hasas it? has that story arc in it.. Rod is in here If one had twelve volt and one didn't, twelve where it needs to go. Yeah. so he's fried a twelve volt lane that feeds one of the fan headers And the other one has twelve volts, and that comes from a different source. And so bridging them together would put twelve volts back into the section of the board that was missing the twelve volts And it would work I need the same twelve vt power. Oh, so it's not about the fan header. It's because the fan header is on the path of something else. Sorry. Is that what's going on? Becauseuse my thing is like if the fanheer doesn't work, who cares? No? No, no, It's not about the faner. No, no. Okay, okay. Does that make sense? Of course, Rod would help me understand that makes a lot of sense Um, And that does make more if it's in the path and you need to sure. o if it was a job because it was a sense line then I' like I don't know Yeah I'd have to look at it more closely again to understand why I thought that would work. I don't think I did think it would work. I just was just messing around trying. It was just intuitively' pretty desperate. Intuitively its because we were like our minutes Yeah from needing to deliver a finished system and our motherboard. Like there's no there's no, you get to a point in scraubbard Wars. where there's like you're kind of done. you l. It's just refinement from there on. U Your parts list locked. Yeah and your budget locked, you have no budget left anyway. So yeah Do you still have the motherboard? might be fun analyzed. That's exactly what he's talking about. It's actually on my desk right now because he wants me to figure out how to do But I mean, Rod might have just mostly answered the question, I should bring it Broadest going to W him I just bring the motherboard wh and let Rod look at it Anway, bring aultimeter to. Moving on Hi guys. I made a switch to catchyOS after I kept blue screens when gaming. Most of my time since it's been spent customizing. What are some Linux side quests you've ended up on since the switch Another thing that I wish I mentioned in that video that I didn't get to prep for was mostly that I actually don't think about it that much anymore. That's been I think the biggest thing that has really hammered home that I can stay for me is I'll go days without having the conscious thought of like, I'm on Linux. The thing that reminded me on my desktop most is that I would glance on the bottom right to see the time And I'd be like, the time's not here, it's up there it Yeah, it just doesn't matter. I'm up there. Up there is fine. Oh, sure. But just that was that's what I'm saying 'use I was on cosmic. So it was just that was Out of everything that made me think, I'm on Linux right now. That was the one that happened most often. Yeah. And which is like no big deal. And I think that's honestly one of the the most impactful things about the whole process is that I honestly just don't think about it that much People will be like, what is it like? And I'm like, I I don't know. What is using Firefox or Chrome like? Yeah I'll launch a game and then I'll be in the game. I'll launch Firefox, then I'm in Firefo, I'll launch whatever, and then I'm in that good operating system just completely gets out of your way and just works. Yeah. And that is usually the case Dcent for's the horizon six. Yeah have be a car U Sorry Yeah Jerk How How could you? I'd hestly a tradeing. No, I was talking to No Emma mentioned like ye. Be I was like, o, it's the card. and she wass like, I have a seven thousand nine hundred XTX right now. she's What she did was she pointed at another M media card, but she pointed at a card I had on the shelf and she wass like, can you just fix it with that? And I was like, well, no, but for a variety of reasons. And one of them is, there's no way I'm taking that card out You're not ruining Bore Like it's actually just not changing. Right, Yeahah, your system is pretty locked. Yeah it's not a it's not an option. so it is what it is. I would rather not play forza then rip that card out of there Like it's no And if you've seen the build, you'll know that what he's saying is actually not crazy. Yeah And like I can play it. I could just dual boot over to Windows figure out how to delete that save then and then play it. like it would be fine I don't know. Customization stuff, I I did a bunch of drive stuff. I got really interested in disck management in Linux and how you how you mess around with U F stab. eople are going to correct me I still think it does sound sick. It does. Learning how to mess around with that. Learning how to mess around with like KDE Dk mananager, whatever it's called. Flipping desktop environments That was fun That's cool Yeah, I mostly like post customization at this point. I got it working the way that I liked And I really just don't think about it that much anymore. And I'm sure if I have some time I might want to poke around with something here or there. Something I'm interested right now is getting because I've read up that apparently it is possible. but something I've been interested in now is getting cashy to work nicely with Secure Boot is right now Yeah, anyways, that'll probably be my like next jump, but I'm not freaking out about that. So it'll be like, o, I want to just tinker with my computer this evening or whatever, thenen I'll just do it then Hey, Duke, Dynys and Land, man, how are these things not called loot logs Question for Lllen L. what was the best part of your worst shoot or vice versa. Have a good weekend. O, I'm gonna go with vice versa I'm going to pick the shoot that unfortunately, the video doesn't seem to exist anymore because it was a production we did for a Sus of all people where Luke and I got lararping armor and like like fought each other. Oh do we have that footage anywhere? Oh No. The raw footage was gone and Aus took the video down at some point so it just doesn't really exist anymore Um, That sucks. Yeah, it was pretty cool At one point, I jump up and I do a two legged like chest kick on Luke and fall and like kind of hurt myself It was probably the most fun that I ever had on a video shoot. Aually amazing. I really liked the like armor setup that I had I thought it was super cool. and the worst part of it was when we didn't secure our like our tent our like pable tent thing and it was kind of a windy day and the wind grabbed it and was about to huck it towards a bunch of innocent bystanders probably injuring someone and an absolute house of a man reached out, grabbed one of the legs of it, and just like pulled it back down to earth saving our liability insurance rates for years to come So that was the best shoot and the worst part and then like the best part You're welcome. That was an incredible shoot. remember I think you did the double leg kick thing multiple times. No, it took multiple takes and like I wasember him injured by the end recovering after each one was like O, I was on hard ground. like we were just like in a field Like out a park. there was no crash pads and the armor wasn't real U, that was a lot of fun. I've thought about that video a few times over the years and then Always forgot to follow up on like where the heck is it? Yeah, sorry I'm very surprised we don't the foot Yeah, we just people like everything lost it Sometimes well lose stuff. Yeah, sorry. Hey DLL, thinking of starting a YouTube channel solely to promote a highly specialized consulting business through educational videos on the topic Does LTT ever get consulting requests Any tips I guess you just did. So I get a lot of consulting requests and I basically tell everyone the same thing. I'd feel bad asking for the amount of money that I would have to ask for to make it worth me doing instead of doing my job And so I just say no normal consulting grades. Yeah. like I'll answer any question for free because I'm fine and comfortable with that But in terms of like asking to pay me to like consult for you Um Yeah, it's u I don't know, mayaybe part of it's just like a bit of imposter syndrome too. like I u I just feel like not that much of an expert, but then when people like ask and I'm like, okay, yeah, I'm like happy to tell you about that. And they're like, oh yeah, that's like really helpful. I'm like, o, good but all that information that I just gave you should be free. so G from m Like it's it's part of the same reason that we've,h we've never done like a course. Like we've never done like a master class on how to build a computer or whatever business team has been pitching this to me for years at this point. L people would peopleeople would pay for like a super high production value like to how to, you know, run a small media company or how to how to build a PC or like just find anything and then just give it to these like course companies and you'll make like buckets and buckets of money and I'm just like, I don't know, man. everything everything that I know, I learned for free Um So 't really I don't really know how to charge for my time directly There are exceptions. I mean, we've done speaking engagements We did one for Threat loocker for Zero Trust World. That was fun but that was less about like That wasn't consulting entertainment So much as it was just to like kind of fire up the crowd and get people excited about zero trust worldor, right? likeike, hey, how about we just not allow any random software to run on our organization's machines I mean As an administratorive. It's the kind of thing you can get fired up of active. Yeah I'm so excited right now H Yeah, hit me I really want to see you tear down a cerebrus, is it cerebrus system, or do a tour. A million cores on one chip would fit well with your petabyite type projects For E semiconductor company different Oh wait are these the guys that do the like wafer sized chips or whatever. The size of a ye. Yeah, I still am not sure exactly what their do is. Apparently they're public now though. Um Where's our gold square then? Like it's I literally just all I know about these guys is this that They're this much bigger than Nvidia which makes them this much better than GPU's. But NvIidia is the one that's a five trillion dollars company. so I don't know, that's literally all I know about them I' sorry Greetings Wand.tO. What games you be playing and will you be using your Linux machines at the Whaleand? Enjoy and have a good weekend. I am probably going to go steal some laptops from the warehouse for Whaleland because I'm really tired of hauling mine and the kids' computers there and they only like stay for a few hours And I only stay for a few hours, so I'll probably bring laptops, which I know is super lame. s it to be a major disappointment The Bobble stories B heck and kind of like a huge cube bulb instead of just a like more rectangular ish box. So very annoying to place of the landb. I always want to bring it because I want to show it off and I can't fit it anywhere Classic loop problems I can't like It ends up just sitting behind my monitor. And then that just kind of sucked. That is lame D could. Hey, we gott to play some super checks this weekend Okay Good old I haven't I haven't played since. Oh no, I did. I played once. I got beat by someone who had never played before. Yeah, I know I know That's rough. Yeah I didn't know how to deal with it. L I just I outshot him like four to one L I was Like I had a bazillion scoring chances. And he would just like like whack it and it would just frreaking land in my net and I'm just, he beat me like five two or something. Like it wasn't close on the scoreboard I didn't know how to like deal with this. Like I do not lose at super checks. except to Luke who I beat more than he beats me. like I'm pretty good at it for like not actually like a professional player or whatever, but for someone who just like really loves the game and obsesses over it 't I didn't know how to I didn't know how to deal with it I'm still not sure how to deal with it. Like you can tell I'm still quite you fell off Cuut up about it. Yeah. I'm unk. Yeah It's official I at the unk game washed up At least I'm clean and' washed unk. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. have one of those. That's not worth it. Okay Hello, LLD. I just U justust bought and I'm in the process of remodeling slash rewiring my first house. Anything spoiler free from the Techo series I need to put in my walls while they're open. Any cool outlets, etcetera. Conduit. Be indecisive Put in some conduit just in case for later Best possible answer. Yeah. And then double the size of the conduit that you thought you were gonna put in there because there's always room for more cables. Yeah, conduit Don't forget to put like like a full string into the conduit. That was the biggest failure, I think we had during our like scramble mold remediation stuff we didn't try to I was just panicking, trying to get all the mold out and then have a place I could live again. Right Yeah. if that didn't make sense. sllow down to think like All the walls are open. Maybe now it would be a good time probably show some conduit in. Yeah. That would have solved a lot of current problems actually, but like Yeah, if you put electrical wires Well, what other kind of wire would use to solve the current problem? How my God? And on that note, thanks for tuning into the Wan show. We'll see you again next week. S bad time Same batch. Oh, wait, I hey Crystal, do you want to say hi I assumed you would Nah She she wants to come on camera. comeome on Denge. you're not gonna do anything. Yeah, you're still not on camera you get. You got to go pretty far. Hi. All right. Thank, Crystal., See you later. Bye