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Duck Duck goo installs have spiked after Google put more AI into search. It looks like people are soundly rejecting the idea of just Ething being all AI all the time. In other news, I forget what our headline topic is. B Y right yes, this is amazing. Both RAM and SSD have seen unprecedented upward price pressure thanks to AI demand, but both of them are getting at least one small win this week with a bit of downward pricing pressure thanks to Sandisk bringing back SETA SSDs and a Chinese memory vendor, CXMT, entering the mainstream memory market. What else we got this week, Mr. Luke There's a major breakthrough in controller calibration for Xbox hardware. That's exciting. And YouTube is introducing auto detection of AI generated videos. You've probably seen the AI generated flag before, but that was like an opt in by the creator. And now there is auto detection, which I think is great Oh. 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All right, let's jump right into our headline topic of the day, which is, of course, that my brain is slow. and yes, here it is Chinese memory maker CXMT has entered the mainstream DDR five market with in partnership with Corsair Csare Vengeance DDR five six thousand CL thirty six RAMkit has been spotted by hardware enthusiast WX Nod running CXMT chips instead of the usual Samsung, SK Heyinix, or Micron CXMT is China's largest memory maker and this is the first time that their DRAM has shown up inside a major Western brands product The kit itself is currently China exclusive based on its CN part number But Any any memory chip that is produced today is going to be a net benefit because If only Micron SK HyNX and Samsung were able to make DDR five chips like at all even within China, then That would be it. That would be the finite supply that is available to gamers But if some of that demand in China can be soaked up by CXMT Is it a small win Yes. Is it a a W It's still a W. I'll take a microscopic W over a giant L any day of the week. Yeah ye. And this is funny. The reason that CXMT apparently has supply despair is almost ironic US sanctions blocked them from getting the cutting edge tools needed to make HBM for AI. So their production lines are wide open to build the consumer DDR five that Samsung, SK Heinnix, and Micron are simply too gosh, darn busy to make. Our discussion question here is, when the memory shortage gets bad enough, that Corsair turns to a Chinese chip maker that the US government is trying to restrict Who's actually winning the Chip W? Ohh Ly. That went straight into politics really fast. But there. Oh, look at that. Our discussion question is gone. L Can you think of it? Okay no, I no in all seriousness. I mean, no, I don't see this as a win for China in the ChIip W. I mean, it's very clear that a from a strategic standpoint HBM. is a lot more important to governments right now than some consumer gaming DDR five memory U, but I still think this is a Actually a W for them. I think so. But given the kind of revenue that this is going be funneling to CXMT Exactly that they otherwise would not have access to orr otherwise might be much less. I mean, making DDR five is way more profitable today than it was six months ago Um It's only going to accelerate China's long term ambitions. So in the short term, no, I don't see this as a win, but in the long term, having a company like Corsair, buy money buying memory from CXMT is M as well be money these days I mean, I mean, yeah, I'm dude I was I was my system wouldn't post last night And I needed to scan a document and setting up my scanner is kind of a pain in the butt. It's like a whole software suite. and I was just like,, okay, what's less work? Setting up the scanner on another computer or fixing my computer so that I already have the scanner set up. And I settled on fixing my computer since I kind of wanted it fixed anyway And I realized that I was having an issue with like my exppo memory profile. It was booting fine at JDEC and then whatever the point is. I booted up my system, having fixed the expo profile and I saw that sixty four gigs of RM in it. went Do I really need sixty four gigab of You know, is this worth more on Facebook Marketplace than it has value to me? Could I just get by with thirty two? Probably Rank. It's it's Crazy, what an investment in a DDR five g. My RM's not even that great It's like a fine kit from the rise in seven thousand era Like it's not even anything special Fighter It's worth like five hundred bucks now and I probably paid like two hundred to two hundred fifty. It's crazy. I was doing one of my like late night walks around Whaleand Um, checking out all the different systems and stuff. And the talks I wouldd have with people where like, you know normally people want to flex their GPUs or whatever. and that is still a huge deal and people were definitely doing that. But I'd showed people's computers and the first specs they'd rattle off was their NVME drives and their RAM Like every time or would be like, I've got four terabytes of NVMV and it's like, whoa. Yeah list That's crazy. I'm not it actually is. I'm not saying you're poor. I'm just saying that I'm wearing your whole house on my gim slot. Dim slot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it that was pretty nuts. It just just hearing like, you know I don't remember the last time literally ever that I've done like a walk at some land And people have rattled off their' storage when they didn't like I don't know, bring like a server for the land or something. you know? It's been a long, You're right. I think the last time storage was hot was like almost like Okay, early days of SSDs There was an era of like ye, I'm rocking an SSD U And then before that, if you had like a ten K drive, like if you had a WD raaptor or something like that, that was like Yeahah. pretty cool dual raapor Were were the ones that had the like I don't know know There was a windowrated metal on the side. Oh yeah, they had heat sinks. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, ye Yeah, some of the rapid But it did. I doubt it was all that effective of a heatsank. Oh, no, no, it mostly just like looked cool. It worked. So those those ten KRPM drives, they were more designed for for server use U And so there were there were a couple of different eras of raaptor. There were there were three and a half inch raaptors that had the bigger disc, but I don't remember if they were short stroked or not, or maybe they just spun at the faster speed. And then I think it was the later generation Raptors that actually used two and a half inch ten K discs And then they were just like thermal interfacace to a three and a half inch slid that was a lightat sink If you want to look it up because I can't share my screen, WD Velociraptor. it's a WD one thousand D H T Z They look wild to be honest Yeah, here you go guys. Yeah, nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is the one I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah. Oh o, o man. is that the only picture Oh no. I found an Amazon listing. H,. I got it. I got it. There's gotta be some more pictures in here. Come on, Tom's hardware, don't let me down. Are you serious right now? U Maybe I went to the room. there it is. Yeah. That's the one. Yeah, that's freaking cool huge heat sink tr. Yeah. honestly, the heat sink on it looks more legit than my memory was telling me. Big heat sink energy Yeah. That was was wild drive. That was around the same era that you could buy water blocks for your hard drives and stuff too. I miss the days of just like water cooling all the things making any sense All right. Yeah, so like it's been a minute. Generally people don't lead with their like storage specs, but more than one person did while I was there. Dude, I'm blown away by how many people lead with their operating system these days The new There was a bunch of Linux users at Whleland. Uh huh. There was a bunch. It has and look. I know that Whaleland is like a sample size of only a couple hundred and I know that there's an enormous numerous selection biases in terms of geography and like the cost of the ticket, sort of self selecting people who can afford to travel and bring their computer to places. L there's all kinds of selection biases here However, those same selection biases have existed for every whaleand. And there is undeniably A like colossily rising trend in people that are running Linux in some form or another. likeike the first whaleand at LTX, I would say the biggest Linux trend was people who were dailying steamedX and just like using them with docs their as their everyday gaming machine Not for their full computers. They were secondary computers for basically everyone we talked to with I think maybe one or two exceptions Whereas now You still see that, actuallyually, if anything, you see more of that But man, people are tripping over themselves to show you their like their custom Uh, like arcade style, you know Linux machine for playing like retro games or to show you some game that they got running that's like a real big challenge. and by the way, they're running arch. like It's Rrady to war How I also . I thought you werere done I was also surprised that the lack of issues that a lot of them were having I know there was there was a guy in my row who was running Bazite and he had Fz Horizon six running. He did have an AMD card, which you know that problem. Yeah. But we would play whatever random games and he was able to jump in and keep up, which was cool Yeah, I didn't hear a lot of issues I did hear from a few people because I had some conversations with people about their setups. I did hear that most of them had a Windows dual boot still, but the general conversation was around that they really don't use it much, like they haven't launched into it in quite a while, but it's like a security layer still because there are still some rough edges And it seems like a lot of the a lot of the gamers want to have fallb back just in case Hving the option having the option makes sense and I can understand one hundred percent why people would want that What else what else did you think did you feel like you noticed in terms of u in terms of just like gamer trends at whail end. It was the I wasn't able to make it for a ton of this one unfortunately, but I know you were there like for a lot of it. The vibe seemed really good I've seen really good. this was one of the stronger whaleands, I think. eightV eight was working, which was nice U we had that unfortunate Oh man, I got some details from from Sean on this that I could probably bring up but let's talk about It was a Yeah, sure. So let me go find Sean's message. I'll give the background. So we had a couple of internet outages that were related to some security patches that ubiquity rolled out for their unify networking equipment. From my understanding, these were high severity bugs that enabled outside attackers to potentially gain fairly deep access to your network. so notot applying these patches. Not an option Unfortunately, from the way it's been explained to me The fix for at least one of these bugs was to disable hardware acceleration for something. Was it like packet switching or routing loop? Do you have that level of detail yet I have a really long message from Sean, so I can just like read it out. Cool. Why don't you do that? there? Why you do that? Now that you've got that Okay up So Sean said, on Tuesday it was reported to us that Unify gear at multiple places were vulnerable to a security exploit that had been reported to UnFy, thinking that it was in reference to the March vulnerability disclosure, somebody was messaged to ensure all their gear was updated. and on Wednesday, they responded that the gear was up to date and sure enough Their site was no longer vulnerable. But in testing, we found that the Sash site also had that issue and they had to migrate to something for the mge vulnerability. A ticket was opened with Unifi support to find out what was going on. On Thursday, Unifi support said updating to the newly released five point one point twelve Cul resolved the security issue So we did that. Subsequently, Thursday afternoon, Unified disclosed five vulnerabilities, three of which were a ten rating, and one was a nine point seven, All remotely exploitable. So we couldn't even be like,, the land people are probably cool and just leave it. L these were exploitable to people on the internet. Sean updated all the consoles D d Smash was done Friday morning. Yeahide Theoretically in time for the land and everything was Gucci Bye As an aside, we'd normally never update a console that soon after a release. L usually we wait update patches to see what happens. and usually don't exactly want to update things the day before I land, but due to the level of vulnerabilities we went for it Yeah, due to the vulnerability disclosure, and the advice of support, we just went ahead with it directly. and the update does seem to resolve the security vulnerabilities, which is great.. But it turned out that five point one point twelve, the update was not just a vulnerability update, but it was a package update containing a number of improvements and bug fixes with some users reporting, it even bypassed the normal early access testing schedule because they needed the security stuff But user updates on the Unify Forum since Friday have a lot of users complaining about resource utilization issues and random ISP drops for most for most the fix is to roll back to the old version, but that would make the device vulnerable again. Yeah. The only reason we pushed the update to Smash on Friday was security vulnerabilities is otherwise we would have held off Al also the other consoles updated were okay U This is a very detailed report. Yeah, I was that was a little that was a little heavy. I should have read it ahead of time. That's my bed, not Seaan's bed, o. But but yeah, it's u Basically that screwed us up pretty hard at the beginning because the CPU on something, some piece of Unify hardware, I don't remember which was just one hundred percent pinned and it was causing issues. packet drops. I think I heard it was like the main core switch So not so not the not the switches that are at each row of computers because those realistically are not being hit that hard But the main switch that's up in the server closet, up in the in like the preremium members lounge was just at like one hundred percent CPU utilization It might have been I know the piece of hardware that AJ mentioned he swapped was he referred to it as Fortress. So it might have been the gateway Oh, was it the gateway? Actually, that makes more sense anyway, because we're probably not even doing that much switching So we so we had a pretty like entry level gateway because like whatever, we're not really doing that much with it. But when hardware acceleration And it was able to support, it was able to support smash jamps just fine. and it sorry, not just smash jamps, but whaleand just fine and has multiple times in the past. But whatever this thing that they did was to solve the security vulnerability that reduced hardware performance which I had heard was they turned off hardware acceleration. We needed just a beefier gateway Yeah, so Very luckily, you know, the LTT warehouse is right there. So AJ whipped down the road, grabbed a fortress, brought it back, upgraded it and then He said like utilization of the fortress was like higher than you would normally expect. Yeah because I mean it also had the security update, but it has an eighteen core processor in it that apparently allowed it to just brute force whatever it needed to do. Yeah And there were nowh And then Well, no, and then we had a little problem after that, but classically it was just DNS It's always the event. we fix that. And then it was rock solid for the rest of the event. Which is kind of frustrating because there's been like a blip at the beginning of a few of these whale lands, but I everyone has had an outage for some reason or another. The first one, we screwed up The second one Dude, I think you and I have both personally been on Tell us Internet for a combined like ten years now, right Probably something like that the office has some some tell us networking, smashes on tell us I think their uptime across my anecdotal evidence deployments has got to be to like four or five nines. L my internet is hard minimum of three nines. Always up, Al up. Probably more than that. And then it happened during the second whaleand. we actually had an ISP disconnection, which was freaking wild And then the third one, we had this stupid vulnerability. I swear, we're like snake bitten now. We're not going to be able to host a whLN without there being at least one small internet connectivity issue. I was joking with AJ, but like what's what is even going to happen next? I can't imagine what the next thing is even happen N worork cableles going to light on fire Luke Like I sure Yeah, yeah. It'll be something. It'll have to be something because now it's a tradition. at this point Yeah, we fixed the AVA I guess you know that because we were playing Yeah Dude the AVA was freaking bulletproof. likeike we played a whole round of left for dead through that they like I just sat down. I think there's a couple of things. I'd love for us to create a script that runs on boot that changes the display refresh rate to four hundred eighty because every time they reboot, it goes back to sixty hertz U And then I think we could probably get teeam spepeak tuned so that every time someone sits down, they don't have to play around with the push to talk settings. But man, those mod mics are so much better than the microphones we were using before. M mics sent over a whole our Antline, excuse me, sent over a whole bunch of their USB mod mics Qality was Totally fine. Those four hundred m herz mons was great. The mod mic situation was actually almost unfortunate because people thought the mod mics weren't necessarily very good. And then I got everyone to fix their Tamspeak and then they were like, oh, okay, sweet. Because Teamspeak was set to just like basically essentially open mic all the time. So the mod mics were picking up whale lan because but like, you know, it's a misuse of hardware at that point. It wasn't the modod mic's fault. So we set a volume gate and there might be a better way to set it up At the very least, setting your volume gate to like plus ten at a whale land Mostly solve the problem. Yeah. It was fine once everybody said Yeah, so we're already planning. We're going to do some form of thing to set the team speak correctly And then I'm sure there's a script you can run on boot that fixes the reen refresh rate. But yeah, AviA was running pretty well. Yeah, things were pretty good. The stage activations seemed stronger than last time at the very least. There was quite a few times where I saw like a big crowd of people in front of the stage because they were doing something, which was cool. I think there was like There's a few people not really all that interested in participating. and then there was some tournament they had on the stage where there was like pro players of, I think it was Valorant Um I'm saying I think it was Valant because I can't participate, not that I would have won, but if I did win, it would be just really cringe. But there was there was a giveaway. I think they got like GPU's and CPU's or something? I don't remember what it was, but it was just like crazy. The hardware giveaway was nuts. And when the giveaway happened, I kept like saying to people in my row like you should probably go. Like the giveaway is crazy because I heard them announce at the beginning, but nobody really clued in until somebody won and got it and like walked away with the stuff And then the whole audience was like, wait, what? I probably should have done that. It's like, Yeahah. Yeah you should probably participate in things. Yeah. That's why we're here, right? Yeah. It was good. When's the next one? The goal is every three months and the ide I the schedule' already up Is it I think so. Ucoming lands So go to info. Top Upcoming lands Here we go. That's probably too hard to find. whoops. Okay. Th theseese dates are tentative and may change though. So sometime in late August, sometime in late November. But yeah, the goal is four times a year. And the idea is not for people to go to every single one. Four lands a year forever is A lot. a lot. likeike I can't especially if you're traveling. Go to all of them. likeike Luke missed one. I was not really present at this last one, but like The idea is that, you know for instead of like, you know three hundred and fifty people coming to four lands a year, the idea is that there' will be a lot of churn there and like, you know, a thousand to fifteen hundred people will all come to like one a year because it's it was actually really cool to see how many of the how much of our team came out to kind of hang out with the community. Kyle showed up with a mock upp or like like a physical sample of the battery bank that he was just, you know doing kyle things and just showing to people. I mean, the guy loves to talk about engineering, anything to do with Electrical or mechanical engineering, and obviously there's a lot of overlap in those interests with our audience. So he was having some pretty good conversations. That was pretty cool I was this is a random one. I just thought of it because they were sitting right behind us and they were playing games with us sometimes. but I think it's kind of like F that at least one of the sponsors of Whaleland just sits in the land and games Oh threat locker. Threat locker. Yeah, their es just come up and like they chill, they hang out. games. Well You know, I think that kind of thing is really important though because I think it's easy to look at a brand like Threat loocker and go, oh yeah, they're threat locker. They make like kind of, you know boring you know, enterprise software in suits or whatever. and forget that a company like that is probably made up of a bunch of like really geeky likeike community member type people who just happen to work for Threat Locker. My experiences with the Threat locker folks have actually been really amazing across the board so far. So if you guys are ever at a whaleand which from my understanding, they're just like the title sponsor forever at this place. You to be at all of them. And they bring shirts and they're nice shirts actually. So like if you want a cool like event shirt, this man Luke Luke This is both this is both an order soldier and a respectful request Never change Ever change, Luke. Hey, your free stuff, man. I' say it. Hey five bucks fiveive bucks, you know what I'm saying? All right, why don't we jump into our next topic? Oo Duck duck goo installs are spiking After Google put more AI in search, Duck Duck Gho says that US app installs jumped an average of eighteen percent week over week in the six days after Google's IO confference The surge came right after Google announced a whole mass of new AI search features at Google IO. Visits to duckot Go's AI free landing page, no AIot duckotgo dot com also climbed about twenty three percent on average. Duck Ducko CEO Gabriel Weinberg said that Google is force feeeding its users AI with no way to opt out and it's making the search results worse Duck Ducko still only has around two percent of the US search market, and it does offer its own AI features, but Weinberg said the company wants to put users in charge and let them decide how much or how little AI they want Our discussion question is W AI overviews slash like AI interactive quote unquote search. because this it even search at that point being Crammed down your throat Are you ready to just stop Googling things? Uh, yeah, I mean, I've been I've been considering there's a there's a guy on one of my one of my teams Now you can care on Uh, I've been considering Cogie, Have you heard of Coggie? I have I've been considering that. I think I've even's been considering Paying for something.. Yeah. Okay well I don't want you explain I explain what it is and tell us why you're considering paying for it Part of the reason I'm considering paying for it is one of the people on my team that I I mean, I respect the opinions of all the people on my teams, but he's been using it for a long time and really likes it. Cagi is a paid Makes me cringe a little bit. Yeah. you know, there's the whole thing of if it's free, you're the product.. But it's a paid web search. There's no ads, there's no trackers I think they actually There's no sponsored results No sponsored results, which is honestly a huge part of it. because even Google right now, like, my Godd, man, there's been some really misleading stuff. L the sponsored results are very clearly kind of malicious at this point. Dude, I forget who was screens sharing with me. It might have been today or yesterday or something. Someone was screensharing with me And they basically like We're trying to look something up. And like couldn't get past the sponsored results. Was that was at Dan, wereere you in a writers meeting this morning or no I think it might have actually been in writers' meeting this morning. James was just trying to like lookook something up and he scrolled past the like completely filling above the hold above the fold sponsored results got all the way to the bottom where there was like more kind of misleading or sponsored results and then he had to go like back up people are like, yeah, yeah, there, there there. I think that's the one. Yeah, there it is Unbelievable. Remember when Google's whole mission with seearch was to help you like actually fucking find something? What happened Yeah, it's a little wild. Um It's I don't know. it's interesting. Kagi has some AI integration stuff. They also have an AI philosophy tagline thing explaining like how they want to use it and why. And I think you can kind of choose to not engage They have something called their Cagi Small Web, which I think is pretty interesting. It's interesting to me because Kagi is a paid thing, but then it says Cagi Small Web prioritizes authentic human voices. This curated collection features only non commercial sites submitted by real people browse by category or at random discover hidden gems created for passion, not profit. I think it's interesting. It's interesting. It It it's not cheap, whichich is why I haven't done it yet because I've known about Cogagi for a while. I think this isn't even the first time I've talked about it on WN show But however, I don't know. And I would never endorse this. The family plan. is only eighteen dollars a month if you buy it yearly For two hundred six so that's two hundred and sixteen dollars a year for six people So what is what does that work out to And I have no idea how they enforce this. Maybe it's like only two adult ones and then all the other ones are you know only kids. It doesn't look like it. It looks like they' professional plans. So what would that work out to two hundred and sixteen dollars Divided by twelve, divided by six would be only three dollars a month If you If you have a big family And your family is six people and And your family has like you know, a convenient pay up or whatever else If you know what I'm saying So yes, it can be pretty expensive ten bucks a month for the professional tier, it seems like, you know Ton of a downer There are there are ways to you know, maybe mayaybe not as much I mean, realistically though, Would you use more than three hundred searches a month Do you do more than ten web searches a g Crently 'use that's only five bucks. It's only five bucks for starter My problem is that there are days where I use way more than that, but I also have to assume that there's days where I use Practically none Um Yeah, three hundred searches and three hundred AI interactions per month with standard models for five bucks a month plus tax. I think that's a pretty reasonable place to start, which is probably why they call it the starter plan. That makes sense. They were way ahead of me This isn't an ad, but if you're interested, you can get a hundred searches for free, so you can at least try it, which is nice with a product like that. Have you tried use Darkucko. No, I haven't. Okay I really should. When we were doing these've been . When we were doing the D Google Your lifeife series, Emily was working on this project and showed me like how well it works and I was I was really impressed because on the one hand, obviously they don't have the sheer data volume of someone like a Google But on the other hand, when it turns out that when you're actively trying to find the right result rather than just forcefeeding whatever sponsored garbage you're being paid for Um You can overcome a lot of that That's interesting, man I'm gonna commit. I will at least try it Um beforefore I get back from my trip, I will have tried it. That'll be my thing. Becauseuse like it the Google search stuff is getting really whack. I was trying to Usually when I do a trip like this, I'll just Google like like right now I'm in Japan. So I'll just Google like what time is four thirty PM PST or four thirty PM in BC because we've mentioned other time zones in Japan. And it'll just link to like time zone converter or whatever that is already set for those things. So I just click on the link. I don't even have to do anything and it shows up perfectly. This trip, I almost screwed up the start time of the show becausecause the AI search thing gave me the wrong result And the only reason why I got it right was because Um It like sounded wrong to me. So a few hours later I searched it again and it gave the right one. But I didn't even type it again. I like clicked on my previous search and did the previous search thing. So like it wasn't a typeo or anything. And it it just I don't even know like how that necessarily happened, but it got it off by an hour U So like I was almost an hour late for the show. Unreal. So it's just and like stuff like that is like, man I don't need that. That is so unnecessary. There's a lot of things I've used Google seearch for in the past that it's just worse at now. Jamie from CW is in the chat being all like if only Linus would actually wear the shirt that's hanging on the back of his chair, Jamie, you hung it out on the back of my chair. Why would I see it there? You got to put it on the front. Anyway, I'm gonna to put this on.hould shouldhould we just talk about it now? becausecause I feel like this is one that's going to resonate a lot with our audience, Dan, should we just Do that now Apparently I don't know what it is right now. Oh o, Dan's putting on his shirt too. All right. Luke, I'm sorry. you're missing out on a really good one this week We'll have one more you he here when you get back Nice I still don't know. Guess what, Luke? What? It comes in tall? Hey. I like., you ready And you say AI, Ctain. Oh, hey. Oh cool. Nice. Okay. I like it. Dude, I love this design. This is from Ashley from CW You know It's a sentiment that at various points in my life, I have aligned more or less with depending on, you know everything that's going on But I think that it would not be I think it would be an ice cold take for me to say that it's the alignment is happening more lately Um It just feels like So many things are belong to us less than they did last week if that kind of u, if that kind of makes sense So, u There,'ll through I'll talk through the talking points that I've been given from the CW team. If I can find them, God, I can never find them. Here they are The If buying isn't owning T shirt is our response to everyone who's had their ownership of a game revoked or a movie that vanished from their library or found that their car's heated seats were locked behind a paywell You bought this You own it. It's printed on our classic Poly Blend tea, soft, breathable, everyday fit. and of course, it's a high quality print that won't crack and peel after a few washes Honestly, given how much I've ranted about digital ownership on the show, I'm a little surprised it took us this long to make this shirt. Is that a fire alarm That would be a hilarious way for the WN Sh to be interrupted. We never really thought of that, did we, Dan? We We've accounted for power outages. We've accounted for All manner of technical glitches, but I would like to postpone the emergency Yeah, could it could it just wait until the wanch shows done? They're testing them I guess, right Do you hear about this? No? Have you heard about this? now N never heard about that? Why would you test them? Sounds like irresponsible Becauseuse if they go off, then there's an emergency. Right yout go off, then there's no emergency. which means the wancho can continue. That's flawless logic. All right, he's that works. Anyway, that works. You can get yours today at lMG.gg slash Owning T shirt. great what a great picture of Ryan Okay, Galaxy Quest is worth buy, just throwing that out there. Oh yeah. Okay, what else we got here? All right, Anho. Check it out lTdstore dot com and hey, if you're gonna to pick one up today, then maybe you could use it to send a checkout message. For those who are unfamiliar, checkout messages or comms are the best way to interact with the LAN show. We don't do twitch bits or super chats or anything where you just throw your money at the screen in hopes of that Senpi will notice you. We believe that if you throw money at your screen, you should get high quality merchandise in return. So all you've got to do to send a checkout message is go to ltTstore. com, add an item to your cart. Note this is available in both regular and tall sizes All right, and then when we're live, you will see this interface where you can put a checkout message. That checkout message after you check out will go to producer Dan, who will curate it for me or Luke to respond to, sometimes Dan to respond to, sometimes all of us Or he' will respond to it, or he'll just pop up a little thing that's like, hey, such and such, bought a shirt Shout out my mom or you know, whatever else if your mom watches the WandN show. That's cool. cool M mom. Anyway, Dan, do you want to show us a couple of curated checkout messages? Yeah, sure, first one here is for Luke in all Capitals. What was in the USB, Luke U didid that Linux episode go live? or what what? what are we talking about? Yes Is that? Yes, it did it. Ah H. U I think we all I think we all want to know the answer to this, Luke U Man, this is a long pause. I think I think a pause like seventy percent of this length would have been something to do with illicit substances. This long it's got to be it's got to involve nudes No no pictures, no pictures. No It wasn't about the data video. It wasn't wasn't about That's a Nobody el Nody. No, no video, no video. no video no audio, no pictures. noody these ones. No, no, no, no, no. It was more about what it did than what it What it Was it a project Yeah A homeomework, I see. It It was an old one. I see. It' a very old project. A very old project. Right. Yeah. I don't know why that drive was in that drawer, but it is now elsewhere in the house. All we can tell you for sure is that at some point Luke bought that drive And Now he has it And You shouldn't have it Yeah Yeah And if you find it, don't plug it in Or do it be funny. next call getet you out of this. I hadn't seen my video. I didn't know. O Yeah. Howy LLD? A Spotify vod guy here, how would you suggest someone who produces their own podcast ways to increase their audience And then in brackets, we're an occult podcast. Wow, I mean, that's gotta be a growing s.ifyd. Right? cult podcast. Yeah. Not a cult, an ocult. Yeah. Likewise I would like witchcraft andars and stuff, right? Oc cult? It's like like afterlife and like that sort of thing supernatural mysticism. mean think I think that's a growing market I don't know if there' the right people to talk to you about how to grow your podcast Yeah We don't do anything. we don't do anything at all. I don't even thumbnail style that we had. I put up We don't edit our podcast. We have the same thumbnail style we had genuinely like thirteen years ago or something like that Yeah. I I don't think we go out of a way to tell anyone about it Yeah. Do we do we advertise the LN show in our like mainline content? Have we ever at all? Now, we're like the number four tech newews podcast globally or in the US or something like that, it's like kind of silly Huh. And that's on Spotify? or like Yeah, podcasts are weird. We go through Spotify. We use a distribution thing like I think it's called Mgaphone, which is a Spotify product. But podcasts just go everywhere simultaneously. It's really cool. There's no like you have to upload it to everything. You just upload it somewhere in and And now you can listen to a podcast. Right, yeah. But it gets like hundreds of thousands of listens and downloads per month. Right, yeah. Cool. Yeah, don't just put it on the internet and then do nothing else. Yeah. That terrible's gone. He's done Lord. What we did was we put it on the internet and the something else that we did a lot of other things than we just hoped that people would find it seventeen million subscribers and then your podcast might get a few hundred listeners. Find a charismatic co host. Do a big like face reveal where he has a broken arm You know? I mean, look if they if they want to follow our playbook, they've got to do everything step by step. The broken arm is essential. I don't think the WN show would be what it is today. if not for the brokenm I mean, it wasn't really broken. It was it was more damaged And you could Yeah you could get like u you could get into merch Uh you could do like, Exanded Excuse me, no no They would do merch. Oh, they would do merch I see. Branded like summoning candles Oh in and like you could do embroidered robes and things like that. Hey, doesn't doesn't Denis Doesn't Denis have a candle side hustle or something? He did. I don't know if he still did Does he still did for sure? Hold on, Dennis Lo candleoldool. Okay, this has got to be Oh, is this still a thing First result, by left ten year job LTT. Okay. well, yeah, we miss you too, Dennis. Dennis Uh Missing candle Okay, I don't u I don't see anything about them. Is this is this a thing? Does anyone know No No one in chat is talking about it. Okay, well anyway, maybe you'll have to find a different supplier for your for your candles Um There's no way that's what he called it U Are these it? No, I don't think this is it. Yeah, this is from like Knoxville. Forget this. Anyway, Yeah, o, so candles. What else would be like, I mean, obvious there's the obvious ones, like like a Ouija board. But I feel like Ouija board's got to be like old school, like not cool anymore. There's gott to be like new trendier occult gimmicks, right I mean, again, you're asking probably two of the least supernaturally attuned people on the face of the earth. If We did a water bottle, they could do a blood chalice. blood jealous. Oh, you could do you know those you know those like dual layer water bottles where there's like something In between the layers. Yeah. You could have like a red liquid in there. That'd be kind of fun. So it's all spooky. Like if's a double wall, it keeps your blood at body temperature. I feel like that's a very like Disney store version of like ye to go along with like maleficent or something version of. 'ause like I feel like actual occult things Disney blood jelly That You you should got Ek put on it You can the spirits of your ancestors, let them go, let them go. You got do that Halloween frozen? ye. You could put cherry bombs at the bottom of your candles Um So that like you just have random explosions in your house so you but they're not like super loud or crazyre just a little bit. Yeah I think a cherry bomb I think a cherry bomb would be pretty loud, Luke Have you ever have you ever lit a cherry bomb? Isn' that liketeenth a dynam? Yeah, cherry bombs are pretty serious Oh, okay. I don't I mean, it's been I was like a child. Why whyy do you h occult people so much? Yeah, you could put Aedes in your pillowcaves. Okay, the like little what are the little like it's like a little white fireaker and you throw it at the ground. Party snaps? I don't know. Sure That's what they're called Sure. L little littleittle things. just so there's like random noises in your house so you feel like it's haunted. You could make an app that just randomly puts like ninety eight percent transparency pictures of people in photos?. I mean, if you wanted to like, if you wanted to like really make money and grift super hard is you could make an app that lets people talk to their dead relatives So they could just upload, they could just input everything about their dead relatives. you make it some like AI thing. I bet that already exists anyway, though. God, I hate that that's like a real thing at this point U you could you could make Uh crap. what is it called? What what here says that exists? What are those like paper white displays called? There's a name for it. E Ink. E Ink. You can make like e ink Tarot cards So so people could like change the theme on them? That's actually sick Yeah That one might actually not be a bad idea Yeah, I feel like there'd be a lot of like a lot of like cool like supernatural kind of stuff that you could do. Well, you the best person yout make it all up. Luke, you gota. You're being very disrespectful of people's beliefs My bad, My bad man. My bad I mean, the thing is like if as long as as long as you believe it, then it's like it's genuine, right in that sort of space, right? So Yeah, you could just kind of u I guess you can kind of decide What you believe? And then I think the Yank tarot cards could actually be pretty sweet. I feel like something with real bone would be cool Like ye, I'm sure there's lots of like cow bones, you know? L from the beef industry. I bet there's lots of bones. I bet you could do like Bone you know, chess board or something that'd be kind of cool. It'd be very like occult The bone bo feeling. Yeah, the bone board. Dude, if you could get the the bones of like opposing animals. Yeah, you could do like 'use like animals that fight in the wild bones of your anim As a chess board. Obviously you that would actually be nuts. You watch Wan show, so you're probably into like kind of hobbyist type stuff. do Like like bone crafted like like models and stuff. you could do like u Like like a trains, you know, you could do a bone train or like Lego kits but made of animal. Interesting So do say? So do you make an animal Or do you make something else but it's made of pieces of animal? No, you would get like a collection of bones and it would be like a spaceship or a millennium falcon, but made of Animal parts. Interesting. fascinating That'd be kind of neat. Gundam made of bones, says Conrad. Yeah, hell yeah That'll be sick. Gundam primal. That would be that would be sweet. do of listeners for your podcast start a toy company made of animals. Yeah. I love I do love that that Dan Dan created like Lego taxidermy. And the best part the best part of all of their things being made out of animals is that They'll only become more dedicated listeners because if they weren't haunted already, they will be soon Mhmh Yeah. There's ten thousand rats in my dreams. Because I bought all the kids. Are they hyper intelligent? or are they just normal rats? They'd be just screaming. Okay It my normal dreams? I don't know, I'm just talking about this. They live in my walls. no Talking of living in my walls Are you guys ready to play some tap tape? We are. This is actually very exciting and you guys should be as excited about it, if not more so than I am. Am I supposed to do the razor read now or I don't know if it's before or after. I think we're basically just going to playlay some games and then maybe we'll do the sponsors later. Okay, cool. Well, basically I'm going to throw the link in the chat Okay, Dan's putting a jot form link in the chat. if you want to just go there yourself, it's lMG. gg slash tape Number two tape We are going to be playing head to head, some rogue light light hockey game and you guys can bet on the result of the match for a chance to win No spoilers. I'm not going to tell you what it is. I don't think you get a laptop on the dock. Let's see here. But it's a really good prize from Razor Lling pad The JorO gaming keyboard or Thuundbolt five Dock Chroma. Wait, it's not a laptop. It's not a laptop. So not what Linus was alluding. Oh, I thought you said it was a laptop Dan. It's laptop accessories, it seems like Oh, So we don't actually you can't win the propane. You just win the propane accessories Well, and Razor' never sponsoring us again. wayay to go Dan. and me, I guess I also contributed. You know, when we assume it makes an assers, you Luke, you are as red as you shirt Oh my God, okay. I mean teactnically I've never promised the laptop before You might win this. You're not going to, but you might. So do you remember when the guy asked about wring his podcast? I'd strongly recommend not alienating your sponsors as part of your overall stateus To be fair, this is on me, so maybe I'm banned from Oh man. Mbe'r Razor. Oh. I'll make it up to the Razor. We really really appreciate you sponsoring the WAN showhow. Please don't stop sponsoring the WAN show. I actually miss your chairs whenever I have to do a remote WAN show I Thank you, Razor. Now let's play some video games, which Razor stuff is really good for. I've got my Razor Wolverine V two controller here, okay. I going be I'm going to be playing some tape to tape. You guys can go ahead and you can place your bets. That's in the job form, right? Dan? Yes, it is. Prizes are at the top of the job form. I guess we'll get our other participants in here and get set up. other participants were doing doubles. We're doing doubles Okay, so who do I have to carry Oh Hey, What's up? All right, so wait, if people haven't well come on, come on, come on, come on in, come on down. Are you in line of this team? Oh sh Who's on Linus' team? I'll take Sammy Because I've got the yeah, I kind of you're in Luke's I assumed becauseuke Luke's got the latency disadvantage. So ye, across the world. Yeah man. seeee, I was sitting here thinking, man, anyone who doesn't bet on me is gonna be crazy because Luke of having this like latency disadvantage But then I end up with this guy who For whatever reason, I look like a hobbit next to right now. This is quite the wide angle lens we've got here You know what? I'm leaning into it. I'm going even I'm going even closer to the center of the frame here No S like the helmet, dude. but yeah Pllah, man. Yes Yeah, you're going to need to take that off because I don't want to lose this thing. I immersed. You know I was pretty worried about the whole latency issue that got going on, but I'm feeling pretty good about my chances right now. Yeah The teams look pretty good, I think.'m happy about this. All right, we should both just play as the same team. Why don't we just both play as the calaveras? What controller number are you, Lanus? I'm four I'm five. All right Okay.a are you? Is Sammy supposed to be miced? His mic is like completely in front of his face U no, no, Dan's got it, Dan's got it What? I mean, if you need some of it, I guess We're teammates, Sammy, you're not on the right team. I don't are you? You're on the right. I'm number four.. Okay, so hold on. I need to do a pre briefing with my teammate here. Okay so our j, no, no, no, no Our jerys are red. Do you remember how to play this game? I've never played Shut up No, that's not even true. Iy't you I thought you have Let's go Let's go this game right now. Oh man, okay. Okay. this is all you need to know. This button right here, this button right here is pass The direction that you push is the direction your passast will go. Pass it to me. Okay, this is body check. B for body check. So you go up next to them and you like you like try to whack them. Okay? Be for whack. This is. mean if you name it your own net and you press X, No, automatically sends it to Linus. No. it's an automatic pass to your friendly player. He's trying to get you to own goal What? I can't hear him. I have no headphonone. Okay Audio lif. All right Terrific is so then we. This is brutal. Thanks, Rzor Okay, listen to. Actually, Sammy, o, o, this is terrible. What are you complaining about? Ilain with me. I'm not complaining about anything, Sammy. This is great. Okay. I struggle with bad leadership I okay Seriously If we if we somehow win this, it's going to be a Christmas miracle. So here's what we're going to do. Sammy,, you're already ready up. You haven't even picked a position yet. positions Y It's hot. Okay,s who keeps entering anything? Okay, hold on, you get Okaykay. Okay, Sammy press B Okay, now press Y Yeah, you're gonna be our left winger for better or for worse. You're not gonna watch hocke either. I did not I should also go left winger. I did not pick Sammy for this challenge Okay, Dan. all right. Just just too Okay, All right, cllarify. Let's just get this over with. Ready up, everybody. What do I clutch of Yeah. You' better lock in. Okay, let's do u Oh, I don't have control. Let's do what just happened? No get it. I didn't do that. I didn't do that. O playing No, no, we're not. This is not the right format for this. What version of the game is this? This is a pretty new build Okay. Okay, who has control? Play now? Oh I have control. Why have control? Oh no. quQuick match. Okay. All right, this is all fine. Okay. Oh it remembers. Everybody ready up Okay, Sammy, wait. Hold on. Okay, press press A. Okay. fourour periods Go down period duration two, skater count. Three V three Difficulty, very hard. Power ups on injuries off. Yep, that all sounds good. Okay, here we go All right, face off. Well we're boned. We can win. you don't know. It'll be negative. Wh am I? I don't know if I'll ever be able to win a face off with this latency. Who am I? Oh well, there I am. Okay. Okay, now pass it to me Okay, All right, we're off to a good start. We're off to a good start. Okay. I think So the red sweaters are For me and Sammy All right, Oh dude, we got this Dude, I thoughtame was running at like thirty FPS Mine's running at maybe two. I didn't see anything there. This is potentially unplayable It would have happened. Oh my goodness, Daniel I don't know what's going on. I literally can't see at all. Dan, what's going on I think our I think our networking might not be usable.old Pass up, pass up. There we go. Now go to the other side and be ready to shoot. Yeah, or not. Yeah, whatever. sorry shot I think we might have to do this next week, Dan. I think with Luke rem modote, it's not gonna to work I'm genuinely getting like No frames per second, I think. Yeah. I think it would average up zero.e too. Yeah, I think this might not work, everyone. Well how Hold on. whereere's the steam remote play interface? You want to bring that up? were You were looking at the latency. Is this the host? Yes U Okay Razer might be able to solve some problems with your setup. need. Is there any reason for us not to be able hold the internet? Is there any reason for us not to be plugg plugged in on this For streaming, that might be good Do we have an ethernet cable Because I would personally probably never try to host four players remoting into a machine on a wireless connection. Our access point on this side of the office is actually kind of old and it seems like it's been flaky sometimes. Isn't it upstairs too U It's far away too whichich might be okay for the clients, but probably is not a good thing for the most. He's finding the buttons on the back now. Nice. All right, should Oh man, now okay. well can I we had a great breakaway in everything and then my side just like literally stopped working and I was like, well, okay. I can't do this, sorry. Okay, Dan didn't come back with a long ethernet cable, but he came back with several short ones If you have enough switches, you can make that work. I love the Ran show Pencross' Mike even on. You might have to sit a little closer to it. I don't think it's picking you up. I've been hearing them. Oh, you havent. Okay, good. Ecellent. We were styling. We were doing all right. And I don't know why actually. It was working fine for like I'm guessing fifteen seconds. Yeah I was going say fifteen, twenty seconds Yeahep and then just nope, completely stopped. Yeah Lifetime. No, the last thing we're going to be doing is Slicing together ethernet cables to try to get this working. D. I thought we wouldd probably make a pretty good WM show Dan, I totally believe you that it was working because it even worked perfectly for like the first minute E blameed Luke You know what? Let's go with that. my fault. That's fine. It's at this time. Shout out Razor, by the way, for having Eethernet built into their gaming laptops. That wasn't to be taken for granted for a minute there And it's not even one of those stupid flippy ones. It's an actual plug What' you doing Dan? Hack in the mainframe use the hacker know as four chance. Okay All right. Okay So oh, that's interesting. Right, we're not getting, oh my goodness Yeah,re we're not getting a connection. What are we plugged into? All right, we're connected. Let's go I think we're going need the remote play invites again. Oh yeah Oh yeah, bud Thanks, Dan Should we do a quick topic, Luke, while we wait? Sure. Oh, and of course Dan's needed for that as well so that he can remove the thing from the thing. Don Let's do a topic while we wait withith guests. S. California moves to exempt Linux from its upcoming age verification law after backlash over forcing operating systems to collect users' ages. In late twenty twenty five, California passed the Digital Age Asurance Act. Yep, actors in all capitals, but that is not the acronym. That takes effect on january first, twenty twenty seven. Rather than forcing websites to handle ID checks, the law will try to push age gating down to the OS level The OG law initially stated that all operating systems must ask for the user's age and birthday when setting up the device initially, and then apps and websites would get that data through an API as if that would do An. After a bunch of pushback by the open source community, especially for accountless Linux distributions, the argument was that they would be legally obligated to build age tracking APIs Buffy Wicks, the same lawmaker who wrote the original bill, just fast tracked an amendment to exclude any OS distributed under licenses allowing users to copy redistribute and modify the software. so sentially If an operating system is open source, private, non commercial, then it will be excluded. Unfortunately, SteamOS is in a bit of a gray area as while running Linux, it is tied to a proprietary app ecosystem of the Steam storing client. it Um o man I mean, okay It is certainly it's not Oh, can you run Steam OS without logging into Steam Because that's where I could see the distinction happening. I've never it's never occurred to me to run Steam OS without logging into Steam Yeah, I would like, why would you? Luca one hundred three says yes I think. I think. Yeah, which is haveave you ever tried to run SteamOS without logging into steam? No Yeah, that's never that's never you Can Be at what point in time do you have to log into steam when setting up Steam OS. I think it's like it's right away. Yeah, it's like right away. L you install it and then it dumps you onto a login screen. I don't know if there's a way to get to desktop mode without logging in though. And if you could, then theoretically. I feel like Valve could change that pretty easily. I feel like they would if if it allowed them to circumvent this Yeah. even even that doesn't seem like a long term problem to me With that said, I mean, okay, steam already asks you your age anyway. That's what I was about to say So I'm not even sure what difference that would ultimately make Um Dan, should we Okay, let's, I mean, we can finish any conversation about this Sure. I also wanted to jump in and talk about the other bill that's going down in California right now. and that's one that would bar publishers from switching off game servers without thinking of players. This passed a California State Assembly vote. I believe this was I think this was earlier today or yesterday or something like that. basasically Um Okay, re I read a different summary of this earlier Fr my understanding of it, prettyre much said, yeah, you can turn off your game That's totally fine. We can't expect people to support a game forever But if you do, you have to provide, I believe it was sixty days of notice chat Jump in and help me out because this didn't end up in the notes. But I believe it's sixty days of notice And then at the end of that sixty days, you have to provide some way for the game to be Accessed. You have to provide the code or you have to provide some way for it to be accessed And that's pretty much What? Luke and I have been asking for since Games as a service was a thing and servers started being turned off for things like MMO's where at least back then there actually was a very compelling reason why it had to be always online and why so much of it had to be servers side nowadays I'm not even convinced that a lot of the games that are so dependent on online services even need to be. they just are because I don't know fuck you or something I think I think it's noted that it's only for games you purchase, not free games eighty percent sure about that? I read this yesterday as well I think it's only games you buy. It's like buyer rent. It's not buyer rent anymore Oh, I see. So like, you know, legal legnds would be it can it can die and then that's it. Right. that actually That actually kind of makes sense I'm intelligent. U That's what an intelligent person would say, right? All right, should we shouldh we take another crack at shouldh we take another crack at our game thing that we have going on here All right, An, let's give it a shot What are the odds that this is gonna work whoa, okay, Leave without saving changes, Ccel. I start it again. Okay No we have hereere we go. I am center. I'm not in the game. hold on. I'm trying to join. Brilliant, genius. love it I heard something loud says the host is busy. I am busy. Sany. What You literally my h' nothing. You want me to f Senter Yeah, actually. Yes. Yes, absolutely. Okay, and actually new cancel That was me that was that was me That was me sorry. I'm actually gonna take U I'm actually gonna to take Defense Yeah We've only got three players Okay Okay, Okay, I'm resouming now. Here we go Whver Oh wait, I am not assigned to a player one sec. Yeah. We've only got wingers. Sorry. Okay, I need to be right defense Okay, there we go. okay, I'm good A good Okay, Sammy you can resume the wood. All right, here we go. I'm anxious, I'm anxious. Where am I? I have no stick. Oh there no I have no stake and I must scream Have you thought of getting a stick,? don't know Um what are you doing Bude? I'm trying to tackle. I was buying time to get a stick. What am I supposed do Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. I'm dead.old How are we not totally Oh, oh, oh Oh, watch it. Watch us drive. Watch what? What do you even watch us? W this drive?ower. I need to cl I need go. I would legitimately How did that not Rather go AI at this point What do you mean though? Oh, Nice hit. Oh Okay. I don't think anyone's gonna score. No, no, watch at all. No watch this Dont me so negative Oh , I'm trying you. What the heck? Oh my goodness We have this we have o, passast to me, dude, I'm so slow Why am I so sry? Oh I just completely wked out. No! Oh you got it. You got it You guys I got it? Yeah. I couldn't even see My screen was completely frozen. Boom We We lost the.'s crazy. Oh man All right U Where am I? Wh? Oh man, who are you? Who are you indeed? Oh, I got it. Can't see again. Oh, Go line iss go. Oh my goodness. I'm lost You pass, I passed. All right. Oh man, Sammy, we are gonna get destroyed. Why are we playaying League leegends That's in one game of. Where? Oh. Okay, so we're gonna sw on. What is happening? Should I be the big guy? Should I be the big guy? What That'sillegal. What is this? That's illegal You just switch the f We're on the rush and you just pause the game. What is that I think we should get peny for that I think there is a penalty for that. It's called delay of game. Also unpan like conduct You guys did the same thing. We were already paused Right defense. All right Fine Letee see what you're doing. That lost Where am I? P Sammy. I Sammy. see pause. I'm lost in the sauce. You're blue. Oh boy, Oh that'sack an old teammate. There we go. Unbelievable I mean you took me out. sorry, An f. Magic is Fired cannot play tape tape or video game. Oh man. Not per on camera. How many hours do you have in this game, Pancrats? At least a couple dozen. U. Oh, I also have a couple dozen. Sure you do. A minutes. Where am I? Oh there I am Unreal. Watch this? Oh What am I watching, Sammy? You're watchatching them score. Oh, shoot. I mean, yeah, I'm definitely watching that. Well how did I throw my stick You can't. Well why can't Iie? Samy, get out of the way. You can't tckking We're just in the way of me throwing my stick at. You can't tackle? It's not called tackling. I don't play this sport or game Fast fast, fast one Oh man. I don't play this sport or the game Oh There we go.. Computer score. You're losing the house. All right, losing the house Where am I? Okay, ourur new goal, Sammy is to score one goal. Okay Oh k That's our goal. Sammy Oh my God, do anything. Oh God, I God I got watch this. Y stick, y stick. Just pass it to the AI. It'll be better than nothing. I did, I pass it the AI. Oh, it's me, it's me. It's Yeah Oh my god, Sammy. C I score? Wh am I not score? Okay. Wait, what's so bad at scoring? I don't know. Oh shoot That was my bad. That's all good Wait why can't my stick were tack? You can't J just don't worry about it. I'm curious. Pass up. I'm curious. Doesn't matter right now. Oh, I didn't have my steick. Lash it boy Yeah, I'm the one throwing. Listen, watch D deffinitely me. Why I just pause the game right now? No way, don't do that. Oh, oh, watch this. No, pass! Oh my go, Sadmy Oh I'm trying to get the free alleged pass off. I passed. I passed. You can't just shoot it straight at the goalie. It doesn't do anything. Do' it? Well, no. No, it does, it does, it does. Okay see I trust you. youaking crap. Listen, I trust you. Why? you shouldn't All I do. I don't know what to do right now. I don't know U Okay, here we go. Who's with me? Me Who's with me Okay, pass it over. Okay, here we go. Oh my God, you passed to the AI. pass to the AI. You said pass to the AI. pass I said pass to me. Okay originally you said the pass to the AI. Oh my goodness. What the heck is our guy doing way back there? The business team is gonna kill me Yeah,? I'm not I'm not coming into work on Monday. Wah? Wait am doing bad? Oh my Godd. Oh no. G, go AI. Oh no, my mic's hot. Oh What Oh coming bo get my way let this. Noope, Sanny, you get out of my way at the park! No. Why at the park? Oh! Oh man. What do I doing This is actually worse than if I was just playing myself Okay. Wait a k. Okay, hold on. What was What was to do then? A Am I gonna have to sub in? I' probably played more Sammy and I together amperature I. I've played a video game before With my latency issues, I'm barely even here. So really I think this is just Linus losing the game. Yeah, I mean, that was my bad just now. Oh, o I got it, I got, I got it. Oh, I don't got it. No, you don't got it. You can't just like assume youve got it. I got it. I got it. No you don't You're not you're not the first one. I could do the first one Wait you don't even have your steick. Where' my stick go I'm dead on the ground. This is unbelievable you still appreciate me. Oh God man. You didn answer my question. Oh. I missed Oh my go. Just get out of here It doesnn't even matter. Nothing matters. Listen, I got it. Wait's my stick? I got the stick. What the No. What do you mean? No? You're l! Sure. fine, You know what? No, No, I'm not Okaykay fine. We got what? Unbelievable. Rats a rabby. Great job, Sammy, you're killing it. I'm killing somebody. I tackling them. tackling Sammy almost soloed that. Do Do you have hypoope? Sure. Sammy was behind the net Lp. J a reminder. I pass. Sammy's gonna end up with no blood pressure after this. I'm lowort. Where in the net is the spot to be. Clearly you guys just scored from there. Low cortisol h be. Oh, I got it. Stay a look at that. Okay. Hold on Hold on holding Let me pass it back right now. No, what Samy, what the hell was le you Ls and pass it! Yeah Why would you follow Ls instructions You hear a trusting voice I'm so sorry. Please buy a razor laptop Sammy,'s that screen look? It looks great. I see I can see it's two forty hz. It's so. It's so bright I can't l. I can't see how much shade I' draming lies right now. It's like it's like the brightness, you know, the knit, you know? I've never seen him this upset before, honestly. You've never seen me play table. Sammy, why is everyone standing around with me? Why are you following me Sammy? do I do? You just go anywhere other than right next to me? I. Oh my goodness I do anything I mad. See, I got it. No, you didn't get anything Oh I got it Oh don't Yeah but you didn't shoot it. Okay, but you got mad. I'm not with you I mean, it doesn't matter. Pancratz and an AI is better than me and an AI and Sammy Oh man. This is absolutelyal Awesome nice E Oh what? Nothing's happening. No, it like flew it flew I'm surprised I Really hoing smo. rated five hole? It went right I didn't go. It was a rebound.ee why can't m I do that Well, because you're never in the right spot. You're just right in fr.oth legs. Why can't I do that? Beause you play leeague leegend I I up a video game. And this is big I'm laging out. it's all you. I'm laging out. Oh I'm lagging out. Sammy whatever, justust give it to him. Sure fine. No, no, no. I'm so negative minus. What do you mean negative? I'm just telling you what you did. List half the battle is positivity. Oh my goodness. throw it. You don't you're not you can't. How many times do I have to tell you you can't th No, you didn't. You can't I could if I really believe you. No, you can't Aw why did the AI pass to me there? Unbelievable Unreal. Not with you. That was all the AI. Oh boy Oh, nice throow Oh, I got it. I'm down. I'm down. I don't know, J do nothing. That's fine. I'm try get an angle, but you don't have a stick Oh man, P up, maybe we can still Oh or just shoot it at the referee. Just do that. I love that the game ends with Blidas's character just laying down on the ice. Samy, I put next month's rent on this What the hell, dude. Yeah I bet against us so. Samy, did yeah, I was gonna say, did you have money on you or Well, you know, I was told that there was a big prize. so I was like All right, so anyway, The great thing about Razor gaming hardware is that Even if I was gonna be that oneot I was so. Even if your partner iss terrible, you can still have a sexy laptop. I feel's not I feel like it's not all my fa. You miss a few shots, to'll be honest. If you shot a little better, we wouldve got like six two sa. You know, there is a way for us to experiment with this. We could control for this I could play against them literally without you and see if I do better. I mean We could find out if you're an impediment or if you're a help. don't know know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know how much time I. I guess we'll never know I guess'll Yeah I guess we'll never. Oh my goodness. Thanks Razer Yeah. Thankk you Razor. That was truly, that was truly something. Float planaine chat says, do it Flowple chat says do it. This is not my show. Yes Oh All right. Thanks, Sammy. That was fun. Oh man. I mean, it's up to you. Sure. You know what? S Let's see. Oh my goodness Not my fault Oh wait, how is this even gonna work? Becauseuse his laptop is the host machine and it has the wired connection. Uh Oh yeah, if we just don't no, yeah, if we just don't select a thing. Yeah How did people vote and stuff? How did that work Okay, there. All right, here we go All right. U Let's see. Oh, he won't be able to throw a stick anymore. Yeah. he won't be he won't be able to do anything. It'll be it'll be glorious. You're on LD. K Luke, are you in? Uh no, give me one secondc Yeah, and you're on the you're on the wrong one. Yeah, you you rightank have a player I won't have a player. Oh, is it R RD? Yeah. Yeah. I didn't think I changed it. That's weird. Also it looks like Sammy's laptop has to be in because he's the host I'll just do this What is what is it attached to? The power. Yeah, yeah, I gota. No,'re good, we're good D. Everything is good. Everything is fine, everything is beautiful Everything is fine. We're doing f. Yeah, everythingthing's fine. So it's RD. Okay, here we go. All right, you guys ready? We're fine here. How are you? Yeah. How are you?, Thankks. That's great. All right All right, game on Okay, we Why I not RD then Hold on. No, I don't have I don't have a player That's weird I am. Maybe the lineups are That's weird. U veryer weird I had a player and I'm write D. Okay, let's see Do I have a player now? Yep, Are you good? Which one am I? Yeah Wait rightite? you're orange. No, I'm center That's so weird. Hold on, sorry, you guys Yeah, I'm center for reasons that I can't comprehend. You know what? That was a vicious time to pause. Sorry. Oh game to winin. You fine. you guys got You guys can have a one goal hand. I didn't have control of the player yet, Luke You guysing against AI I'm just Im just sad. it's not unfair. It's just sad. It should be right D. it should be right D. We were both right D last time and I was right D and it worked. Oh then. I don't know why it made you cinner. Do you have to have a cinner? Do You have to control the cinner? I don't know. That's a good question. A. I don't think so Okay so it's supposed to be write D Okay, let's see if this works Okay, here we go Oh for crying out loud Sererenity now Yeah All right, we'll do two longer periods, so this will be just a quick one. All I that you'll get the Lke cam on on the delay Okay. okay.. We good? It looks. Yeah, we're good. It's all one you re. All Game on boys Oh wait, hello. Hold on Luke, are you in I am now. You good All right, he's good. No. He's good, he's good All right. All right. Oh my, let's go Where's my stick leg? Oh my goodness Oh boy Oh I can't do anything against you All right, here we go. Bow Oh what? Oh my Godd. Sorry, sorry, that was me. That was my bad You know what? This is way lightier than last time. I don't know what happened. We can just call it It's not gonna to settle anything if you're just leagging the whole time I because I didn't even have control my screen for that again. And we still scored. I was just in the right position I spamX. Oh my goodness. This second shot, did not happen on my screen Only the first one happened and I was like, I'm just gonna keep pressing. It doesn't gaze Oo Oh here we go. Yeah I knew that was coming. let's go. Seriously, the AIs are so much more useful than Sammy. Like infinitely. He had a magical way of being completely wherever was completely in my way at all times Like if I was trying to throw a stick to intercept something, he was in the way. If I was trying to pass He was in the way Did you bribe him No, no, no. I was gonna say I might have hit that stick throw if I was like able to control the game, but Oh my god, yeah, like Yikes. I was little right behind you Oh yeah, but Babel Oh my God. And skip. Oh sorry about that, sorry about that Oh, there we go. Nice gold. Oh. Now the game's actually flowing. peopleeople are actually like doing hockey things, is crazy You takeaking win face. Oh my goodness. You gotta stop trying that direct. I can't really let you do that Okay, my AI's are gonna go for it. Oh, what they, why it pass to me for crying out loud. Come on, go for it, AI, get it. get it. You're better than Sammy Let's go. The stick throw guy is a little ridiculous. I mean you have' so strong. No no, I'm not I'm dead. I'm not to say it's ridiculous Oh boy K. Come on, where's my sticket? Oh yeah, where's my sticket? Come on, let's go Oh gosh. All I gott to do is clear a path for my AIs Oh, no the an. I wish he I sorry, I would pass. Ooh, that was close. Oh gosh. Sorry pancrats. How many sticks are on the ice? Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Don't even trip dog. We got more sticks than people. I think that's true right now. P! I couldn't even control for that. Man, there wass like four or five sticks on the ice, I think Yeah It's a lot This This is crazy. I wasn't even sure if I was one hundred percent gonna be right about me being better off with literally no one than with Sammy Dude, I justrew my stick and deleted it from the game. Oh, I did too I think we must have glitched it. This is an early access this is an early access build I also threw my stick at the same time as you and it just disappeared. So I wonder if it's because we both threw our sticks at the same time or something Also, there's a stick at center ice Oh, come on. Sorry about that. permanently there, I think Yeah, that's kind of crazy. It just lives there now. Yeah I don't know what happened. I don't know why it's worst now It's not that much worse, but every on in a while it just stopps. I mean, it's just wifi doing Wi things. You gott to be on like hotel Wi Fi, right? Oh yeah, yeah And it's not very incredible Not very good hotel wi Fi you They, not so easy when I don't have Sammy sabotaging me, heh? Yeah. I also I can't stick throw effectively because the latency and the stick throw like runs the game. Oh yeah. To be clear, I'm not saying me beating you guys right now means that I'm better than both of you. I'm just saying that I'm just saying that how Yeah that was how badly I lost with Sammy was not representative I think within like ten or fifteen seconds of the game starting, the gap was obvious Oh man. you could have Dan, you could have at least recruited someone for me who knows how hockey works. I didn't pick him Wh wasn't referring to it as tackling. Hey, he picked the right helmet. Oh my goodness. There was a J went flying that accidental helmet eg who's that throw Oh, you boys are lucky I can do stick thows Oh I knowick th. They changed the aiming. It's not as easy anymore So the aiming is very manual for the stick throw now, instead of just being like you kind of hint in the direction you want it to go weir Yeah, so it's like it's actually a skill thing now U C back. Nice. You missed the replay, that's all. Yeah . Okay, how does the manual nature of it work then? It's just like passing. So the direction is dictated by the direction you're pointing your Yeah, but I point it right at it and it goes like way to the right I mean, that might be the latency then Okay, yeah Fouse there Oh Oh, my stick just disappeared into the ether when I threw it I think the stick throw might just be glitched now Whoa, Whoa, buddy Oh wait, it disappeared, but then it hit someone That's pretty crazy. Is that why there's so many sticks on the ice? They're just like Dappearing and then showing back up Rember Bs Come on, here we go, hereere we go, boys Also, why can' you just stick theg infinitely? There's no coolldown. Oh, there's no one U Well you have to have a stick and then you can and then there's no cooldown. The cooldown is you have to go get a stick Okay ussually from the bench or if you can knock someone else's away, then Oh Oh, that was that was interesting. Bold strategy All right, one more minute remaining Oh Come on, A guys. Oh Nice, nice All right. Oh was good quality stick throw Luke. Quality stick throw. Well done. well done There we, good goal. Quality goal Gve gott to give it to you Oh, sorry about that Not sorry Yeah! No way. Hold on, there's eight seconds left and it's six five. You guys could still come back. My AI just has to win this face off Then we're good Come on, AI, win the face off. Nice. What, Okaykay, yeah, I just pointed my stick up and it threw it to the right. I don't know if that's latency or a bug or what, but All right It was close. So Sammy, in case you were wondering, this time Sammy this time Team Linus got six goals And team Luke and Pancratz got five goals. So Linus is replacing you with AI. Get on ready, get on ready. B All right, thanks guys. Okay, I've got some news from the business team it looks like. Oh, okay, looks like Razor's never working with us again. That makes sense. Apparently Sammy was had some money riding on this and was apparently rigging the game to cash out on a sports betting site. Oh, I think this is a joke. Okay, I was taking that seriously for a moment. I mean, for how hard he sold that game. Would it even be unbelievable to you, Luke It was fairly believable to me until he said sports betting site. and then I was like, Yeahah. But I just would have done a like local thing. Yeah, if you'd said Pokemon cards or something, then that might have been more believable. But I think what we're gonna end up actually doing is probably just giving everybody an entry O into the drop Okay, both sides All right? because you both won. All right, all right. Or you both lost Yeah, but I think everybody lost today, Dan. So did my hairline and wrinkles I thought it was pretty fun scoring two separate times whening. That was genuinely really entertaining. The first one was wild. I haveked out for like many seconds. I've not laughed like that That was crazy. Yeah. everything about that The second one it only long for like kind of a very, very short period of time. so like it wasn't that big of a surprise when I had scored. But the first one, like I genuinely had no idea and for a long time U That was bonkers.. I'm glad we made it through, everybody. John O. Johnson in Filpllink Chat said the real winner was the Samys we made along the way. Sammy is hilarious. I've never really interacted with Sammy in his element, but that was gold. Oh that was pretty good. And ye so his element is what trolling me Be I' making everyone upset, includluding Por Razor. I mean, gave I gave him the good laptop. I didn't realize that he had no idea what hockey was Yeah and has never played a video game before. Yeah. Yeah Becauseuse even testing it, I was like I'd never touched it before in like five or six minutes. it's like, oh, you just point in the direction Yeah. And then you pass to your teammate who' more competent. It ain't that hard. All right. we why don't we jump into a quick topic here? a topic I'll set up Some el. Wait, did we ever do any coms? Did we do one We did two. We did at least We did at least one. Brilliant. Okay. Let me collapse this Oh, this is cool. There's been a major breakthrough in controller calibration for Xbox hardware Drift guuard. claims that it can permanently store a new joystick calibration data directly in an Xbox controller's onboard memory, making curursor is making the adjustment difficult for future updates to reverse and saving you from annoying stick drift The Refix reportedly works across generations and types, not just on the newer controllers that the official Microsoft tool supports. So even back to the three hundred sixty, dude I have some old three hundred and sixty controllers that are drifting like crazy and it really sucks because I really love Th those controllers and there's no reason they're great. Why I shouldn't still be able to game on them other than that they fell apart because of stick drift If it's as simple as fixing this with a free open source tool That's freaking awesome Since the calibration data is written to the controller itself, firmware updates reportedly should not erase the fix, although the software is unlikely to resolve problems that are caused by worn or physically damaged components There's a free browser version How flipping crazy is that? And there's a steam update expected soon and early tests look promising. but your mileage M vary Um This is actually a really good question And this is from our This is from one this is from one of our writers Why do you think the conversation around stick drrift has become so much more prevalent Back in my day, we didn't talk about stick drift. We just played with our busted controllers and darn it, we enjoyed it. Like it's not like modern controllers uniquely have bad joysticks. I mean, think back to the N sixty four, what a piece of shit That thing was. And like I understand if you've got the muscle memory for it or whatever, it could be really great for like playing certain games or whatever. And that's great Objectively though, the design was terrible from a longevity standpoint. and we just kind of go, you know Oh you Nintendo, the bad N sixty four joystick Why is it such a different conversation today I think there's a number of reasons that I've got in my brain, but what jumps to your mind, Luke Um Honestly, I think it's the more serious nature of gaming. I think that's a big part of it. Yeah I think that's the biggest part because like I think everybody had the N sixty four controller that they had like slammed their palm onto the joystick to play Mario partarty and just gone And the joystick was just a mess and it would like flop to the side and whatever. But you just kind of get used to it. and I think you know, the cost of buying a new controller versus the amount you cared about being that much better in a game was like not that big of a focus, but these days like People are just very serious all the time in every game. you know, like you would have been laughed at if you were Uh, you know Aame trainer. Yeah. Oh, dude. before like hold on guys. I know it's like our time to play games now, but I need to spend fifteen minutes in an aim trainer before we get I could warm up like I could warm up. Yeah. Like you would like you would have gotten been a joke. Even among like gamers, you would have gotten a guttural laugh like If if you were playing an ar cy lab and you wore a piece of armor or a weapon that looked Bicky Just because it was good, people would have like laughed at you for it And now if you Don't wear the thing that looks icky because you don't want to look weird, but it's the best thing you have. People will now laugh at you for that. Like it is like completely flipped mentality. I think there's a number of other things. I think one of them is the sheer volume of gamers. Back then, the people who would have been able to complain were just kids There weren't that many of them and they didn't have any kind of voice amplification Whereas now like everyone Games Adult people with the means to make a lot of noise Um Game in their spare time. I've got a lot of people in chat saying cost That one I'm actually gonna push back on because N sixty four controllers were freaking expensive in like nineteen ninety eight dollars Like they weren't they weren't cheap. I'll have to look it up because I don't remember the exact amount, but like people did not have four N sixty four controllers to go with their console Like that wasn't a thing I honestly interpret the cost comment as the opposite of what you're saying. Um because If it was cheap before, they would have swapped the controllers out more easily. But controllers are expensive now.. No, that's what they're saying. They're saying people are more mad now because they're more expensive now But an N sixty four controller was thirty US dollars back in nineteen ninety six, which is a freaking ton of money. So that worked out to about thirty five to forty Canadian dollars for us. then, which if we if we just plunk that into forty cad U inflation calculator. sixty four bucks. Yeah. so they were they were freaking expensive sixixty four USD. be clear. So that was like, you know, eighty five Canadian dollars. I don't think I knew a single person who had a full complement of controllers for their console if it was like a four controller console Like I even had a friend O you had like suuper janky on. Yeah. like horrible twenty dollars Little Brother controllers, like twenty Canadian dollars That. Yeah, exactly. with like four different switches on it, none of them worked and it like was the worst thing you'd ever used. Like that's the whole origin of like the Little Brother controller memes is that The console, like the N sixty four was only two hundred US dollars But by the time you kitted it out with a bunch of controllers, it was like over three hundred or whatever. likeike it increased the price so much. And I mean, it's just It's always been the case. like the W was like that too. the W was so cheap But by the time you actually got a whole bunch of Wotes and nunchucks and like got all the accessories so that everyone in your family could bowl without passing the remote around or so you could have two people boxing or whatever, it was freaking expensive So that's just kind of always been a thing I wonder if u Yeah, so the sweatiness, sheer volume like sheer popularity of gaming as a hobby, That's probably I guess that you know what? mayaybe part of it too is coming back to the difference in demographic. Maybe now that people have the knowledge to understand what's wrong with them And the skill to fix it, the conversation is much bigger and it's more extended Like, when you were a kid Your joystick was worn out and you were like, well it's worn out But now You might Go online. And Certain watch a YouTube video. taking it apart. Yeah. Yeah and watch them explain to you how, you know, Nintendo or Microsoft or Sony saved fourteen cents on this part and that's why it fails all the time. And you know, that sucks. And so Now you have all that context for it whereereas before it was just like, well, my toy is broken and that You know, that blows obviously, but I could like still play the game good enough. So I think yeah, I think it's I think there's a number of things Yeah, magnetic flux says the rise of subreddits Um I mean, the rise of social media in general And the, you know, the perception that, you know, if you don't If yours isn't like the best, if you don't pick the best one, then you've like screwed up or like you're missing out or whatever. I think, yeah, social media is probably a huge part of just people generally being upset about stuff as well But that that's a much larger issue than just Game controllers, I think Anyway, it's really cool that for Xbox controllers, you can write a value to it that tells it where its new centered spot is and it's not going to stay there. It's going to continue to drift. It's going to continue to wear out, but at least you could You can reapply this over time. I plan to do this on my Xbox three hundred sixty controllers right away, I'm very excited about that because I've still got my first party dongle and I've got a whole whack of them. And what's really nice is that becausecause if I recall correctly, they don't use X input yet boox three, sixty controller, X input or D input. I think they still use D input Uh o, no, it's built natively for X input Okay, I don't know why it is then because've I've had pretty good luck running Xbox one and then to get past the controller limit going to Xbox three hundred sixty controllers They can be used ind the input. Okay. interestnteresting. That's according to AI overview though, so who knows U I'd probably have to look into it a little bit more Maybe the issue I was trying to overcome before was just reaching the maximum of my connected dongles. Either way, gets me another four wireless controllers. without having to go buy another dongle now because I already have the controllers and I already have the dongle Hey, did you see the blue origin explosion Yeah, I've been I've been out so I don't have a lot of details about it, but I got a message about it. That's actually like It's pretty from the extremely little I know right now, that's going to set things back Yeah Yeah, from like I haven't done a ton of reading on it, but from what I understand, it's not so much that the rocket exploded, that happens sometimes. the launch pad, like launch facility or like one of the towers or something It was like a multie project and this could even set back like Artemis now and like it's a rail downown That's what Iant by it's going to set things back was Artemis, not not Blue Origin so much. I am not You know, I want them to do well, but don' I don't care so much about the individual companies involved. I just want the mission to move forward And this is likely to set the mission back, so that upsets me Yeah, Wiley Graft said when this happened to SpaceX, it was four months for the rocket, one year for the pad Um, Yikes Yeahes, so this could be This could be real bad. I need to look more into it stuff again, been I've been away. Dude, I forged a knife We see it? Yeah, off course. Can I show it here? hold on, one second. I think it's legal free to show it, yeah guy, can I show it Okay Okay Okay, let's see this. So you did this in Japan I did this in Japan. So hold on, I'm just curious. Why would you go all the way to Japan and not make an authentic one What do you Oh my God. Oh my God Oh my Godd, that took me so long. I was like, I don't even understand. It like absolutely is. So I was looking at places to do this And there's like some place in Tokyo, which like I'm sure it's great, but it's incredibly expensive. And I found a place wayay out there. that was a lot more affordable And apparently they like just started doing this. We were like one of their one of their first customers. Oh, that's cool. And it was It's just actually an amazing experience. You spend three hours. I think the group size is maximum of two. So it was just my brother and I in the whole shop. And there was like other people just working in there. Like it's an actual shop where they make stuff Um But they had they had like, I'd say one and a half people working with us. So they had one person who was with us the whole time and then another guy that would step in every once in a while when things are needed. And we got to do Oh lot of it And then they would step in and like touch things up a little bit if we screwed up. But like but like, you know, we put it in the furnace. We checked when the temperature was correct with like a magnet and all this kind of stuff because when it gets too hot it demagnetizes. And then we took it out and dunked it in the water and did all that kind of stuff. And like we did the pattern hammering onto the metal and we did a lot of the actual sharpening and stuff. it was like Really, really awesome I don't know how well this is going to show on camera But Um What Okay, that's so cool Dam so That's the handle. And what did you like? I stamped I hammered that pattern into it. Yeah. And then you can see the tip at the end. Yeah. So what that angle was done by me on a grinder. That's cool U and then this bottom was also like like Richards, he did They have that up in Japan style Oh my God I just was I just wasn't sure that they did. There's no jing a knife, you can't make me laugh. But like even the top here have like a slight curve to it, but I decided to have mine be like very, very angularool. Richards is more of a traditional chef knife where it has like the gradual curve the whole way up and everything. Yeah. Our knives actually look totally different You can see the pattern that I hammered in is Like these u the hammer it looked the hammer that I was using looked like it had almost like bamboo on it So the pattern was like kind of random angled lines. Cool And that's what I got out of it. This is the last side that I hammered, which is why I showed it to you because I think it looks the coolest. Right. The other side is on the anvil. so I still like the pattern, but it loses some of the detail because you're literally like smashing it into you hadn't If you didn't show me the other side and then tell me you likes the other side better, then I wouldn't even like I wouldn't even clocked it. Like ye yeah they're both fine. I think this was screwed up a little bit on this one where you can see I hammered a little bit too low on the blade Oh yeah. Okay, but that's not actually like a huge deal, apparently. Yeah. I mean I think this is just one of those things where you see all the flaws of the thing you made, whereas like I wouldn't have even again, I wouldn't have even noticed that that's an error because I don't know that And it's got a little oil on it right now if you're seeing some streaks and stuff. but that's the stamp logo of their shop. It's hard to see.. And then I did initials on the other side That sick. But yeah, this was like an amazing process. Three hours with the guys Um If you don't mind me asking, like how much did the whole experience cost because I'm willing to things can be So expensive. or so reasonably priced in Japan that On either end of it, it doesn't make any sense And so and like knives can be so expensive to buy like a nice knife that I'm kind of wondering, like is it Is it affordable to just make your own versus buying like a fancy knife or whatever? I just want some context I was looking in their shop Yeah and it seemed fairly similarly priced to to make your own versus buying one like buying one online and getting a shipped. which I thought was pretty interesting. Okay Cool. I also did find that this place was fairly dramatically cheaper than the one that's in Tokyo And as far as I can tell Well there's like a few of them, but I found one random one in Tokyo. And as far as I can tell, this one is like more hands on. Yeah which might be good. likeike it was good for me. That's what I wanted. But as I pointed out, like there was there was the part where I hammered a little bit too low on the knife. So like you're going to have a higher chance of imperfections because they let you do more things. Yeah, but they're your imperfections But I think it's sick. Yeah, have I have no problem with that at all. And they will step in and try to help with stuff. Like there was u U I don't remember what it was. There was My my my grind because because again, I tried to make mine super angular So I tried to get rid of some of the curvature of it Yeah. And my grind on the side that we were going to sharpen was like a little bit bowed and I had a bit of a hard time seeing it But the like The like main like knife master dude of the shop could see it and was like, oh, I'll fix, I'll fix and ran over and like grinded a little bit and made it just like a little bit better. But I did ninety percent of that grind He just he brought it the last little bit that I'm not going to be able to see So like there's that little bit of perfection added on top, which makes it just really awesome. People are asking for the name of it. Do you want to just drop a link to Dan and then he can hook it in the chat? Yeah, I'll try to look it up really quick. It's like Sanjo, dojo something San Sith Cool Yeah, this looks right. Kaji dojo, yeah, yeah, yeah. guys Very cool. I think I paid for it like a while ago because I preordered it or whatever. I think it was like two hundred and something which is not cheap, but no, but like the what knife having three hours in there with a blacksmith. Yeah. Honestly, the costing felt pretty good to me. Comparative experiences at a lot of other places I've been, like win on destination vacationing and stuff It's pretty well priced, especially because you come out of it with like a knife that uses very high end materials. Right.ike it's actually like I mean, it it's not a by it's not cheap, I mean two hundred bucks is a decent amount of money. Yeah For what you get, I actually think it is quite cheap. Well, there's a huge difference between A small amount of money and a good deal Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I think it was a good deal. Yeah. I don't necessarily think it was a small amount of money. I mean, I've talked extensively on the show about how people will call something overpriced. But that but people use overpriced is one of those words like scam. that has just kind of lost its true definition and it's actually really destructive to clear communication that we are using these words wrong because overpriced does not mean a high number of dollar coins, it means that it is a bad value Yeah, I definitely do not think it's overpriced. I actually almost wonder if it's like underpriced considering what we got out of it. But I mean I'm gonna assume his permission and show you my brother's knife too. sure it's like Amazing. I like sixty five bucks an hour for any kind of like workshop thing Dude. I wouldn't have even assumed that includes the materials Like I think you w talking about this Yeah when we were leaving. And again, I might have got the price wrong. been It's been quite a while since I booked it. but Rich and I were talking about this when we were leaving, and we were like, dude, the entire time we were there, we were using consumables. Yeah. There's the fuel for the furnace. There's the wheels for the grinders. there's the electricity for everything. We start off by taking a hammer, which is going to have wear and tear and just bashing it into the metal. There's the metal, there's the handle. They source handles from like a local U wood making Like I think Yvonne and I paid more than sixty five dollars an hour to do that jewelry jewelry making thing that we made I think we I showed you those earrings that we made. We each made an earring. And they were supposed to match, but they ended up being a little different because we each made them. which just may be the fun of it U But I think we paid more than sixty five dollars an hour each Our group was like ten or twelve people We had u We had to pay for materials on top of that So like, honestly, this seems extremely reasonable. Yeah, this looks great Yeah and you can tell Like we both started with the same blade blank. Yeah But the shape is completely different. We both did a different grind on it. Cool. He also chose a different pattern. I told you mine was like it almost looked like bamboo coming out. His was more like almost bricks So you can see Oh yeah. no, I see it. I got it. It came out looking differently. Very cool. This isn't the perfect lighting to see it in. look I'll say I think they look pretty cool. hereere. they look a lot cooler in person. And you learned how to like set a grind And then also go into stone sharpening. So we we sharpened it from zero, like it had a big thickness to the actual metal. And then you sharpen it down to the point where you could actually bring it to stones and stuff. and you do that with big grinding wheels. It's very it's very hands on. like they give you this huge aprint and goggles because you have to lean over this grinding wheel with like water flying over the place and sharpen it on there. It's like, it's man It was really cool. This's a really fantastic experience. I would actually highly recommend it if you happen to find yourself in Japan. It' It's like coast to coast across from where Tokyo is. But you can take a bullet train and it gets you there in like an hour and a half So you just fly across U yeah, they were wonderful and u Yeah, roughly two hours on the bullet train. I think we jumped on the bullet train a little bit further out from Tokyo, which is why it was an hour and a half Yeah, so somebody just priced it out. apppparently it's two hundred and sixteen Canadian. two hundred and sixteen Canadian for that is Insanely cheap. Like I uh I would have thought that would have just been the time in the shop and that would have been pretty cheap, let alone the materials and everything for the knife. And again, there was knives that they were selling in their shop that you know, they're probably nicer than what Rich knives. But still it's the same materials and stuff that were like just as expensive. So I don't know Check them out if you're in town. and check out our sponsor. Dan, do you want to What's the thing supposed to be? Is this where we is this where we make Razor not angry with us anymore? Okay, all right. There we go. run. The razor blade is built to get you desktop performance, but in a sixteen inch slim laptop. Inside that one machine, you're getting an NVidA RTX fifty series laptop GPU as well as an Intel core Ultra nine processor three hundred eighty six H, which is a thirty three percent bump over the previous blade sixteen The display is also brighter with a QHD plus two hundred and forty Htz OLED display with Vesa display HDR trrue bllack one thousand certification. And since you're going to want to do some gaming on the go, Razor has also significantly improved the battery life over the previous models. Yeah, going Corltra sereries three is going to be a huge part of that Each machine comes with the fastest available RAM up to sixty four gigs of LPDDR five ninety six hundred megahertz. And as we learned tonight They also have thernet on board. So if for whatever reason your Wi Fi is flaky wherever you are, hey, you can always count on a good old fashioned copper wire We had labs run some tests on the bllade sixteen and found it to get over ten hours on a single charge Noting that for a small form factor gaming laptop, it has pretty close to the highest possible total graphics power for a laptop five thousand ninety So check it out at the link down below or head on over to Short Circuit to see Elijah unbox onene after the show V cool All right All right, float plane announcement We have something for every type of viewer this week on flloat planane. For the OGs, we had a very special guest here a few weeks ago. Can you guess who it is Do you even know about this No Really? I don't think so. The one They only mister Brandon Lee came into the studio. It was What are you guys doing? It was just kind of a serendipitous thing. I had HP of all people, just like an agency for HP. No one I even knew or anything. And clearly they didn't do any research on my channel because they offered to send me a film scanner for film negatives. And I was like what are you even talking about But then I was like Okay That seems kind of cool. That's an area of tech that and there aren't many of these yet anymore, but that's an area of tech we've never touched on. Online is tech tips Is this a good one? sureure seend it over. And then I was sitting thinking like, okay, what am I going do with this thing? I don't know anything about film photography. I don't know anything about film scanners. I had no purpose for any of this in my life You know what I know someone who does. So I reached out to Brandon and I was like, Hey, do you want to like do a collab? Do you want to come in and just like, you know, shoot a little bit of a film and we'll try out a couple different film scanning methods.' I've had preservation of old media on the mind a lot We did that VHS backup video with Mark Rathgabver a little while ago, where I had that old VHS that I'd never actually watched from when I was a teenager. and we were able to digitize that. And then more recently, we collaborated with Rebo You're good. we're back. You're here're here. You never left U moreore recently, we collaborated with Reboot reewind Um to capture the The original master tapes from that entire show are to be clear, we didn't actually do that much. We mostly financially contributed, but it was somethinghing that I was really happy to be a part of U And then so with just all of that on my mind, I saw this like film scanner thing and I was like, oh yeah, that'd be really cool. So Brandon came in And we kind of we played around with it together. We had a lot of fun There's a very embarrassing picture of me involved that up until scanning it with this film scanner had only ever existed as a little crappy negative that my aunt had hidden away in a basket somewhere. So that's closer to the end of the video. and it's up Early on float plane, it'll go up probably sometime this weekend. So go check it out Oh wow, that's going to be released eight whole days early Apparently it's sched for little over a week from now. Oh, that makes sense because conttext content's coming up And then we've got something for Chat, the Gen Zers, the Sigmas, the triple T enthusiasts. Elijah showcased how much has changed from his AMD ultimate upgrade. and his paint grade U in tech upgrades, where are they now So here's where it was. here's where it is now. H rack has grown. A lot people are oh yeah, people are people are enjoying this one as well Ver cool. So that's already up. We got that going. What else we got going on this week? Finally for the WAN viewers, it's that monthly installment of Why is WAN late. It's episode twenty three. crazy to think this has been going on for two whole yearsars It's also crazy that neither one of us has made WN late for an entire month except for one person. Okay Hi Yeah, I gu Wh is me? No, it's not you I think we all know who it was. Anyway, no matter what kind of LT viewer you are, there's something for you at lMG.gg slash FP Wand. Dan if you want to throw that in the chat now's a great time to join Floatplane. Sammy also gave me some bad news before the show Um, Oh that he's not good at hockey I didn't notice. I yeah. He because you Apparently lost, I think, or you lost ages ago. He forgot to liqueifyy some food. Oh, like I lost why is when late. Yeah You mean. I forgot your punishment. Oh, I see. So it might happen next week. Oh. Well, probably not next week because I'll be in Taipei next week. And you know who'll be in the room with you? Oh, I see Interesting. With access to fish balls. I don't think fishballs were involved Yet No, I'm pretty sure fishballs are not involved. Just other ones. All right, well we'll see how that goes. In other news, YouTube is introducing auto detection of AI generated videos. YouTube announced this week that it will start automatically detecting and labeling AI generated content on the platform. And it's also making those labels more visible on both long form videos and shorts. To be clear, AI disclosure labels have existed on YouTube since twenty twenty four, but up until now, they only appeared when a creator voluntarily disclosed that they had used AI in their creation. whichich like very rarely happen. Yeah, definitely a problem going forward. creators are still expected to disclose their own AI use But if they don't, and YouTube's new internal systems detect what the company calls a significant photore realalistic AI use, YouTube will apply the label on its own On long form videos, the AI label will now appear directly below the video player and above the description inststead of inside the expanded description box where it used to live And on shorts The label will show up as an overlay on the vertical video itself YouTube's creator, Laison said that the goal is Cext at a glance Thati. e, if a video looks real but was made with AI, they want viewers to know immediately He also said that AI labels alone do not affect how videos are recommended or whether they can earn money and that the change is purely about giving viewers the right information at the right time If a creator believes that their video was labeled incorrectly because you know this is going to be incoming, they can challenge the disclosure status in YouTube studio However, they won't be able to change it in two cases. If the video was made using YouTube's own AI tools, like Vo or Dream screen, if the file contains C twoPA metadata indicating that it was fully AI generated On its support page, Google also warns that creators who consistently choose not to disclose AI use could be subject to penalties Content removal or even a monetization ban Discussion question. Do you think this will be effective in curbing the prevalence of AI Sop on YouTube Cbing mayy killing no sort of my It definitely won't kill it. forwards. I don't even know if it'll curb it because As much as you can label things I've seen some genuinely incredibly obvious AI stuff And like I also think that my accuracy has been going down as AI generation has gotten better. Oh yeah. M too. It is an uncomfortable thing to accept, but we have to beue. If we're being honest, I think. The trajectory I used to bat a hundred. I was batting a hundred for a long time and I felt like I just like had it and I was fine. I was gonna be good. And then it started slipping and it started slipping pretty significantly. So that becausecause you're becoming a boomer because the AI is getting better ay yeah, maybe a little bit of both. but I've noticed some like really painfully obvious stuff where people in the comments are taking it very seriously. And I think if it's labeled AI, honestly, a lot of people just aren't gonna to read. That being said, I still think this is a huge W from YouTube and I appreciate them doing it because as long as you arm the people that will read, And they can point it out in the comments and they can help make it obvious. That's better than what we had before Massive And it's huge. I gott to say, I am surprised. Um YouTube D They do have some pretty good W's, but overlaying it oververlaying it on a short retty impressive. I'm surprised they did that Be like Sorts is one of the one of the key places where AI slot proliferates, completely unchallenged. and YouTube has gone to great lengths to simplify the interface and keep it as just endlessly swipeable as possible. L you have to fight with it to find out when a short was uploaded. I forget, you have to like click there and then open up a thing there and then like like to actually get to text information rather than just Mindlessly scrolling from one short to the next. It takes effort So for them to take something that up until now has been buried in you know the expanded description on long form and overlay it on top of the video, I'm actually like That's super cool. Like cloud suuper cool. Good job, YouTube. if Everyone took this took the responsibility around this as seriously as YouTube, the world would be a better place B how much? H 's H hard to say. I mean, it depends how good their detection is But by but by more than zero I feel like they're gonna try. U I feel like they will always be okay with AI content being on the platform, but they want it properly labeled. I think that is actually true. Um I think so too. And if that's true, I'm totally cool with that approach, to be completely honest If it is blatantly obvious to everyone if something is Ai genererated and they still want to consume it I mean, sure, maybe there's stuff that's good and you just want it. Mbe you just really like watching kittens play ice hockey like It's not like there's another way to to do it cost effectively So yeah, yeah So like whatever, that's okay. I just want it to be, yeah, very, very obvious. It isn't obvious to boomers, right. which is why It'll be labeled. Yeah And then if they take the time to read it, Th then it'll be obvious and that's fine You know, you can't you can't there's a I'm happy they're doing that overlay thing with shorts. You only be so aggressive about it before it's just incredibly annoying. So there's there's a bit of a give take on how much they push it. And it feels right now that they're doing it an appropriate amount Based on this, but we'll see. C people in Chat, I think thought by labeling, we meant like metadata, which I do not think is the case here. No. They're just actually labeling it like so it's human readable when you load the content. Yeah. Contrailla says, do you think that the public backlash towards AI is being noticed by advertisers I think Very selectively yes. People got pretty mad about that coke commercial. And there's been sort of a couple instances of that where enough momentum has built around something that, you know, the company kind of went, oh, I guess we won't do that For now But realistically, this is a frog boiling situation. and people have only They have only a finite amount of outrage to give In any given moment, Um, like and it's it's one of those things that u You know, Luke and I will be talking about something on Wan S showow andre we're like very upset about it. And you know, to quote that South Park episode with with Bono in it, you know, you think of the starving children, it's like, how can you guys be mad about this like tech thing when there's like when there's children starving or when there's like this going on or there's why are you not mentioning every single thing that's wrong in the world it's like becausecause because we don't actually we don't actually have finite infinitely broad and infinitely deep attention to give to every possible subject. And I'm sorry I'm sorry that in this exact moment, You know, the concern that I'm talking about does not align with the concern that is, you know most at the surface for you U But what happens over time is we have this finite amount of care energy to give about things and at some point we reach sort of a numbness. and I think that AI is going to be one of those things. think there's going to be people for whom that is their life's mission, that is their cause Um And You know what? given what has happened in the creation of these LLMs and the mass theft and everything, I think that's a perfectly cromulent life's cause The vast majority of people, which coming back to the context of what I'm talking about, advertisers, right? They're not going after the activists who are against it. And yet no fur coat advertiser is trying to target members of PITA That's just not how it works. But in terms of the broad market, are they worried about this backlash No, I don't think so Um, yeah. The backlash does seem to be growing You know, like certain cohorts L the backlash turning into spending changes Literally the only thing that matter. Luke Luke asking the big important question, D you stop buying Coca Cola products Were you sipping a Coke while complaining about the Cke commercial? Well then u thenen they're not going to learn anything.'t matter Yeah And that's not to say that you shouldn't still, you know, raise your voice about things that You know, you feel are wrong or whatever, even if you are totally addicted to Coca Cola and you're just still going to keep drinking it But it just does mean that their behavior is never going to change. so You just kind of have to come You kind of have to be at peace with that Right Mmm U spepeaking of things that people should never be at peace with. Cities are covering flock cameras with trash bags So first of all, the obligatory flock U Dayton, Ohio apparently is on board with that message, and they've started putting black trash bags over their flock automated license plate reader cameras. Because city officials say they aren't sure whether the cameras are still active and they don't even know whether they're allowed to take them down under their contract with Vlog Joe Parlette, the deputy city manager, said at a city commommission meeting last week that the Dayton Police Department agreed to work with public works to beg the cameras as a stopgap measure until they can be removed entirely. This seems pretty based, but let's let's go on. Dayton has seventy two flock cameras around the city and an audit found that they were involved in what was described as Egregious data sharing violations includluding seven thousand one hundred logged searches done for immigration related reasons The mess in Dayton started last October when the city learned that its Flock camera data was being passed to the Department of Home Laden Security and ICE through Flock's National camera network The city says, it didn't intend for that to happen and blamed a specific officer who forgot to flip a toggle that would have blocked the sharing This is not the first city to go the trashbag route Late last year, Evanston, Illinois covered its nineteen flock cameras with garbage bags too Evston had terminated its flock contract back in August but then claimed that Flock came back and reinstalled the cameras without permission which got Flock a cease and desist letter from the city An Evanston spokesperson told four hundred four media that the cameras are owned by Flock and had to be removed by Flock, so while they were waiting for the removal, they covered them The same pattern is showing up in other places. The mayor of Menominee, Wisconsin, recently said that flock cameras in the city have been activated without city council approval Residents in Boulder, Colorado have filed a lawsuit challenging the use of the cameras A fllockokesp that A fllock, spokesperson told four hundred and four media that of course any city can turn off its cameras if it no longer wants to use them But added that each contract is negotiated with the city attorney beforehand and that legal conditions may prevent a city from voiding the contract without grounds to do so So now hold on the gosh d a second here. Citizens of the city could take a more permanent route with like a bat or a sledgehammer. We're not endorsing that or a we're just with a hook on it. We're just making an observation It's an objective fact what you just said I mean, that's wow We talked before about how the only way to send a message to corporations is in ways that affect them monetarily. That sounds like it would be very expensive for Flock That is that is true. It's also like the whole like if buying isn't owning Right, yeah. It's like if I don't want it anymore, I should also be able to destroy it Right, yeah, I mean That makes sense. Makes sense to me. I mean those rules apparently don't apply to me. We had some people very upset that we took some plants out of the backyard of the tech house. That was fun Oh really? Yeah,' like comp point. Yeah Didn't one of them, didnn't one of them just like go to U Alex D. I mean, not the way I took it out Oh yeah, it was a very mature plant. There was no way that was going happen. We would had to dig a hole like freaking ten feet around to capture all the roots of it. That wasn't going to be a thing.. But yeah, no, we're remodeling the backyard and it's okay P can people can I think it's more cool to destroy some flat cameras or to, you know redistribute the materials used in the flot camera to a recycling plant than it is to, you know, something something plants, I don't know. Sure. Yeah Um, yeah, man, Flock. They just they can't ever be in the news for anything good, heh Like, you know, for something that's supposedly for safety, you'd think More often, we'd hear about all the people who are being made more safe by it Yeah, I like this. Willingpy said timee to go clubbing question mark. H It's like, yeah, it's like it's like yeah, you go for a night of clubbing. Well, there's all kinds of different clubbing there's, you know, There's going to a bar, there's seal clubbing, there's flock clubbing, just You know, whatever whatever's culturally relevant where you're from That makes sense Rapid unscheduled deconstructions. I like that Hey, I've got some other fun news. Your Blu Ray Drive can now rip GameCube, W and Xbox games. Omnirive, a custom firmware for Blu ray drives that use the MediaTech MT nineteen fifty nine chipset Now let's you rip the aforementioned GameCube Wii and Xbox games and Xbox three hundred sixty and Dreamcast games straight to your PC Previously Backing up games from consoles with proprietary disk formats required a moded console or specialized hardware Now it's that simple. The firmware did come out of beta in February, but only now is getting wider attention It is worth noting that PS three, PS four, PS five, Xbox one and series and Wii U disks can technically be read too But the content on those ones stays encrypted. Compatible drives are mostly from LG and ASUS. And the disk preservation project Wiki has a full list. if that's something that interests you. just wanted to kind of flag this for you guys. U Our discussion question is, with retro console hardware failing faster every year Is community built preservation tooling like this the only realistic way that these games survive? And I think I think that answer is Highly dependent on the license holders for that media A lot of it has been made available on like virtual console type platforms A lot of it hasn't. And as long as and sometimes that's not even because nobody wants to. L wasn't it u wasn't it Golden eye that was was or is stuck in some kind of horrible Who owns the license hell? For the longest time I don't know I wouldn't be surprised but I'm not sure There's a lot of weird stuff with licensing likeider the license for Spider Man is like shared Um, Like I think it's like Marvel is is Disney or whatever, but Spiderm Man is Sony or something. I don't know. it's all stream. Uh yeah, I found Unfortunately, a deleted post called Goldeneyezer zo seven, the acccidental masterpiece trapped in licensing limbo. Yeah, So I think I think I did not Uh imagine that. Rare Ds talk about the nearly completed Goldenye zzo seven remake Oh tellell all, including the reason it was canceled All right, very cool. So there's an article on over on ArS Technica, but I don't know if the reason that it was cancellled was to do with licensing this time. I do know that there's been some some challenges Leaks at original Studio raare before anyone tried to What else we got this week Oh yeah, for sure All right Time to talk about it. Rapid fires and stuff. Valve has raised Steam deeck prices by anywhere from forty threecent to forty six percent Update, it sold out already The Steam Deck OED five hundred twelve has been raised to seven hundred and eighty nine US dollars while the one terabyte variant has increased to nine hundred and forty nine US dollars. two hundred and forty and three hundred dollars hike respectively Valve notes in a Steam hardware community post that the Steam deck itself has not changed. and they say The new prices reflect the current state of component costs and other global logistical challenges across the industry as a whole So fuel increases for shipping Holding costs insanity It sold out in less than twenty four hours after its's restock. We don't know if that actually means that there were a lot of them. Um But we do know that it is not in stock at the official source. so of course sccalpers are running rampant Tim Sweeney sarcastically tweeted that Valve consumers or suggested that Valve consumers are paying for Gaben's mega yachts Um That's honestly a bit of a disingenuous take. Um I do see how a company as profitable as Valve could be vilified anytime they adjust pricing upward on anything. I think their thirty percent take on the store is too high. I've thought that kind of forever, but I agree It actually feels like a realistic jump to me. However, you know, Business units have to maintain their own independent profitability Um, and if Velve which according to Valve is how they want to treat it. If Valve wants their hardware unit. to be a separately Profitable, independent ish endeavor that is justified of its own accord and it doesn't just suck at the teat of their software margins forever then I can understand why they can't just sell these things at a loss However, I can also see why people are flipping outraged because the steam deck was like one of the few things that had remained a pretty darn good value even after the discontinuation of the more entry level options It was Tim Sweeney that said that yacht thing, right Yeah U accccording to Forbes, as of may twenty twenty two, he had a net worth of seven point six billion doars Um Bloomberg is estimating since then it's at nine point six billion. He could buy a few yachts, I think. I wouldn't believe an estimate on Forbes throwing that out there. I think I saw an estimate of like top top influencer net worth on Forbes or something like that. that Forbes is like junk now. Yeah. Forbes is sloped now. so just you just ignore it. Yeah. I read Forbes and it was like, oh, they must have like interviewed him or something. With that said, I mean, he clearly He clearly could afford a yacht if he really felt like it. Like he's definitely in the yacht. threshold of personal wealth U that I gott to remember Yeah. And I thought I was being a good boy. I didn't even look at the AI summary. just Yeah, I would just I scroll past. Lake Forbes, I rem I remember contacting a writer from there once because I had read about some influencers, some of whom I knew, like some of the people I actually knew, Not that I knew their exact net worth, but I have a pretty good understanding of their business and stuff. And so I was just like Hey, where did these numbers come from? L Could I get some sort of clarity on the methodology by which You came to these conclusions because some of these don't really make any sense to me as someone who's been in this industry for most of my adult life and they just like completely didn't respond to me and I'm like, okay Neat. So source. I made it up. Sure I don't know. It's probably a lot though. Um Yeah, I'm not saying I'm happy about it. I'm just not surprised. The fact that they held on to the price that they had for so long is more of the surprising part to me Um Fuel prices are insane. Like I just you know, I'm in Japan right now. This is a personal trip. I playaed for this flight And I booked it a long time ago and I'm really happy about that because I've looked at slight cost to places like this recently and it's like holy crap. Fuel in general is going crazy. who knows if the strait's going to open anytime soon? Um Oh, no, there's news on that. Apparently the strait is open Now I mean, that's been said before Um Hold on Hold on, maybe not Yeah, okay, never mind Carry on. Yeah, they've said it multiple times and then blown up Um Yeah, so I don't know. memory costs going up. I have no idea, but I'm sure the like SOC in there went up in cost Um just moving everything around went up in cost, et cetera. That's going be reflected onto the price of the product. I'm so bummed about what this means for Steam machine Steam machine is gonna's gonna be rough. It's gonna end up not being Oh what I wanted it to be I wanted it to be PC console and it's going to end up being a fing steam machine just like it was last time They're not quite as bad as it was last time. The original steam machine, for those of you who don't remember, like ten years ago, Valve had steam machines. This is like, this is steam machine resurrected this time Steam machines were built with partners like alienware And they were just small form factor computers that ran an older version of SteamOS. Was it based on Debian? can't remember basased on something no Yeah. so they ran an older version of SteamOS and U they sucked because the value was just terrible. They were like Over a thousand dollars for some mid tier freaking hardware. Is that sounding Is that sounding familiar now And that's I feel like That's what we're going to end up with here Be even though like we had that good news with respect to RAM availability or not availability but pricing, earlier in the show that CXMT is building relatively, um Affordably, I assume, DDR five memory that can be used in desktop systems That's not going to help with the kind of like volume contracts that someone like a Valve is going to have to sign in order to get enough allocation to build something like SteamMachine. That's like That's like Corsair buying some modules to make some sticks in China. that's not I dont think that's going going to be a needle mover for a volume purchaser like Valve And and then I'm also bummed about like what all of this means for Steam frrame. Like I should have my Steam frrame already I should be gaming on my steam frame Every night Right now I'm so stoked for the steam frame and RamM's just everything up. Basically abbsolutely frustrating And you know what is one of the most frustrating things about it, Luke is that optane? Otain was too early It was I've said it before three D cross point. the Micron Intel joint Eeavor to build the layer that was supposed to exist betweenween DRAM and high speed SSD NAN storage just it just came a little bit too early and then the nail The final nail in its coffin was A collapse of memory pricing that made obtain not makeaking dude, if obtain was firing today dude. Okaykay, I'm going to talk about this Wendell is so happy right now. Redditor getting on all his Otane drives. Redditor AP Frisco used six secondhand Intel Otane persistent memory dims, so seven hundred sixty eight gigs total in a Zon workstation to want run a one trillion parameter Kimi K two point five model locally at roughly four tokens per second Optained DIMs were set in memory mode with DDR four used as a cache anain has much lower latency than NVME, but still approximately two to three times higher than DRAM Intels a discontinued memory. so this is from my notes Memory format was designed to bridge the performance and cost gap between very fast but expensive DRAM and much slower cheaper SSD's. Optane sits in the middle offering larger, cheaper, byte addressable memory that is faster than SSDs, but slower than DRAM and very importantly is persistent They ran a hybrid CPU GPO inference workflow, with most of the models staying in the optane slash CPU memory, while critical tensors were streamed into a twelve gig RTX three thousand sixty for acceleration using lambMaot CP's memory override. All of this indicates that there is a tier of memory between DRM and SSDs that could be especially useful for large language models. Oh it was funny. Dan's pointing out that it was only four tokens per second, but I don' doesn't specify what the compute was though. But yeah, it was very limited compute. So the important part the important part is that it's fitting it's fitting in notot storage. six drives and they're like twenty bucks. That's like crazy Yeah, a trillion parameters at four tokens per second is Uh But the four tokens per second part like I bet you could be a lot faster. I just they don't even mention the compute. likeike I think that's Yeah. Yeahah, they said single GPU and they didn't specify what one. Linus comment. Rest in peace Opte, you were too great and too early. That That's what I just when someone proposed this topic, that was what I put in my notes. Apparently it made it into the dock this time Oh, man, I just I was so excited about Oain and like make my Next time someone asks me, okay, Dan, next time someone sends a com or something and it's like, you know, what was your like favorite tack that was canceled or unappreciated for its time? It's got to be. It's got to be optane. It was like Man, there were like PCIE Gen three Optane drives that still absolutely blew the doors off of like gen four or even G five SSDs in terms of their real world performance, not in terms of how fast they can run a file copy because that was never the point. Point was always the latency. It was always the IOs and freakaking AI is like a Perfect. U case for it. It's like, We're trying to find the answer to like, how do we run these gigantic models without putting them out to much, much slower storage. Opte Cashed Optaine, man A I'm just having a look through what we have in storage two seven, eight nine ten eleven, twelve eight times fifteen. Five point seven terabytes. We have sorry? Five point seven terabytes. we got like thirty. Oh wow. thirty fifty No Th throw this at at Nick in the lab and letem have some fun. I mean, yeah, I think we have a whole st. a pretty crazy local model with that. There's a one point six terabyte one signigned out to you. Yeah, that's my boot drive Okay, well, well'll have Alex collect that again. Nope. Which computer you find that, you can have it? I treated myself to an eBay special Um as my personal farewell to option. I was actually planning to do a video about it U Just like the video was gonna to be called Maybe I should still do it the best the the best drive was made, you know, five years ago or however long ago it was. It's like it's really old now But it's like still the best drive on the market as far as I can tell in terms of like latency and IOs Yeah so even without that, we've got about six terabytes of obptane on site. How much How many of the DMs do we have? Be we had a whole server. We did a whole video about it. It was like we lost this server and our this server was lost in our warehouse for years or something like that. I think it was called. These are all NVME. PCI three Yeah, no, they would be They would be searching wrong. Yeah, that server might just be inventoried as one thing or we may have ultimately sent it back. I don't know exactly what happened with it I've got an Intel server system one U rack mount. Is that it Um No, it wasn't a one new, I don't was it a one new I'm sorry I don't remember. Maybe it is. Maybe that's it How much RAM does that say it has? becausecause I think we just combined by thirty two Oh, twelve by five, twelve inain octe DC resistant. That's the one. So that has that has another six terabytes of obptane in it. Yeah Should we throw that at the lab, put like a big fat GPU in there and see what they can do with it? Like they wanted to do some We have twelve terabytes of obane This could be really fun. Yeah. Yeah I should unironically. I'm gonna it's in storage. It's not even checked out. You can just take it. It's like ducks at the park. You beaten me too. You're very quick. You've been doing this for a while I have four hundred and fifty two optian drives Oh Cool, that's gonna be sick. Yeah. All right, anyh who, restest in peace, obtain I love you, Optane. I wish you could come back Optane, but it's just it's never going to happen. Like I forget how the whole thing collapsed, but like Microns sold their share in the joint venture and then Intel bailed on it and blah, blah, blah. And then now you can you can get You can still get those little caching drives U Otaine thirty two gig for like pennies on the dollar. Look at this. You can get these for like forty bucks It's a little M d. two, I think it's yeah, PCIE three point zero and it might even only be two lanes. I can't quite recall right now No, that looks like a by four interface So sh up. So yeah, forty bucks for these. Actually I was thinking of making a video about these too because storage is so stupid expensive So using one of these cashed on a hard drive, I think the first party tool is like deprecated now or something, but there there are third party tools that you can use for caching. So a relatively small cash is shhockingly effective, even on a relatively large mechanical hard drive And u Like hybrid storage and caching solutions is something that I was very bullish on. five to eight years ago and then just kind of never materialized. but Maybe we just never had the right incentive to use it. and I guess I guess The answer was AI all along. Oh good Are you excited? I'm excited. And then what we can do is we can just Take a bunch of water and then dump it outside and let it evaporate. Just turn on all the taps in the building. And then we can feel better. We can be like the big boys. We can be like the real companies In other news, we're laying off thirty percent of our workforce It should I mean, it should be a lot more Why is that funny to you d Oh, because it was a low number. I think it should be. Wow, you're one of the good ones, Linus. Maximizing shareholder value. Hey, speaking of maximizing shareholder value, Nvidia is officially killing the control panel. After twenty years As of the latest game ready Dver update, the NVvidia app is now the only supported way to manage your GForce GPU settings. The control panel is officially done after twenty years It is worth noting though, existing installs will not be deleted unless you do a clean driver install and it will stay on the Microsoft store for anyone who wants it, but it is frozen. so no new features, fixes or updates RTX pro users. still get control panel support until their professional features finish migrating Our discussion question is, were you a right click desktop control panel person? O did you never touch it I've actually missed that for a long time. The ability to right click and just go to my Invidia control panel, The fact that it's down in the system tray still bothers me to this day I'm a rep, I'm a right click desktop I'm a right click guy, but have been using the tray as needed, but I'm a right click guy. I actually have I almost never touch the control panel anymore though. I actually, oh man, this might be a hot take, but I really like the NvIDA app. And if all the features are in there, then actuallyctually yeah, I I kind of like the NvIidia app. I can kind of I can understand dont I don't bother with it. Yeah. Yeah, we don't we don't need two apps. I mean I feel like the same people who are upset at NvIidia for getting rid of the control panel are probably the same people who are mock Microsoft for still having remnants of the old school control panel instead of managing to consolidate everything in the new settings menu. We're going to have to we're going to have to pick a lane here, folks U And I think I'm going to go with the I'd rather have one interface rather than two interfaces, some of which have some features and some of which have other features Electro botom chat says, what about three control panels? No, no, noope, disagree U In other news Customers were deceived about active listening AI powered marketing service The FTC is forcing Cox Media Group and two small marketing firms to settle allegations that they deceived customers by falsely claiming to offer an AI powered service that could target localized ads based on conversations captured from customer smart devices and that consumers had opted into such targeting The marketing companies claimed that their active listening marketing service could do that, and they sold the service to small businesses looking for targeted advertising So the good news for the regular Joe The service doesn't do that The bad news for those businesses who paid for the service They were being resold email lists that were obtained from other data brokers at a high markup, of course Cox and C also claimed that customers had opted into being listened to by accepting the mandatory terms and conditions However, that doesn't constitute opt in consent for invasive recording services Fun fact, Cox Media Group is a joint venture between Apollo Global Management and Cox Enterprises These two companies combined annual revenues are around fifty billion dollars. A one million dollar fine for them is kind of like a two dollarars fine for you if you make one hundred thousand dollars a year which statistically like probably don't. so it's even less than that Wump, wump. But hey, here's some funnier AI news Um A pizza hut franchisee operating one hundred and eleven locations across the East cooast is suing for a hundred million dollars over Dragonail. AI delivery management system that Pizza Hut forced them to adopt Before Dragon Tail, over ninety percent of their deliveries would arrive within thirty minutes After that, the number dropped to fifty percent. Here's what it turned out went wrong old system had managers manually entering orders into a door dash tablet Dragon Tail replaced that with real time kitchen visibility for doorjash drivers who quickly figured out that they could wait up to fifteen minutes to batch multiple orders into one trip So pieces that you used to leave the store in under five minutes We're sitting on the rack for up to twenty minutes Some drivers could also see tip amounts, so low tip orders would just sit there longer The franchisees New York City year over year sales growth went from positive ten percent to negative nine point eight percent. Meanwhile, Yum Brands is already closing two hundred and fifty Pza hot locations this year and reportedly exploring selling the brand Our discussion question is at what point does AI powered deficiency just mean Hey, did anybody test this with real delivery drivers Hello? I mean, hey did anybody test this with like new feature launch is already a bit of a problem. I mean, you and I used to talk back in the day. I remember in the NCIX studio U there was I believe it was Atech. There was an AteC power supply that didn't fit an Antech case And you were like, you'd think L of all the cies of your own, they would have kicking around to check. It would be theirs You would have slotted it in and figured that out. I understand if the Nmax, you know, mega mega Volt five thousand doesn't fit or whatever, fine But like, really? your own man? ye, it's the same kind of thing of like did no one try this Can I don't use food delivery apps much, but can I just kind of jump in with maybe there's a controversial take, but like Is tipping before you actually get the service, not razy I mean, yeah. Is that tipping? It probably is, but I suspect the tipping before you actually get the service idea. is that this is someone that you don't get to see handle your food for a very long time and is not supervised by anyone else So the chance of mistreatment is like Ver high U So I'm assuming people are tipping beforehand to try to prevent That's not tipping. That's protection money Like that's a raacket. I think Yeah, I think you're paying protection money for sure. Boober is doing tipping after now. I don't know if they did it before, but okay. like I tip my Uber drivers, but I always get the prompt after the fact. I don't know if that applies to Uber eats though. The food seems to be doing that now too Okay Door Dash, I think is still before. I don't know it might be different in different parts of the world, actually. Whoa. Are we both reading the same one? J Christ o eight says Doorash has you tip thenen after the order, they ask if you want to tip more Is that true? That must be new. Oh my Godd That sounds crazy. dude, we we went down to the labs some of the people from the labs went down to Fuit recently and we had a dinner with Fuget afterwards. Yeah. they did an auto gratuity which is like, you know what? for parties over a certain amount, they't blame them Sounds good. There's an auto gratuity And then it asked you to tip. That's crazy. And and I like double t because the guy standing right there, right? Like it's a it's a, you know, clickking zero is a thing to do when the dude is standing right there and the service was good So I double ted to the receipt like multiple times being like, wait, no, you if I remember correctly I even asked him, I was like, this is an auto gratuti, right? Like you guys charge this This was a tip that got charged and he was like, yeah. And I was like I look back at the machine and it's asking for a tip, and I'm like, okay. And it wasn't low. if I remember correctly, it was twenty percent. Yeah. So it's like I've seen servers that handle that well. they'll come up with the machine and they'll be like, hey, by the way, the tip is already's ye they'll like proactively remind you. But I've also run into ones where clearly they like kind of hoping you're not paying attention. You know, whatever' the whatever it's the corporate card, right Yeah, especi a lot of the time when it's a big group it's whatever, you know, who cares? It's a corporate card. Yeah It's not their problem if, you know, you get reemed by your boss for leaving a forty five percent total tip or whatever. and it might even be ye, it would even be that high because if you leave a twenty percent tip on top of a twenty percent tip, that's more than it's not just twenty plus twenty at that point, right? Like it's that's a ludicrous amount to leave, but I have almost accidentally done it before where like you, I had to kind of go and double check. I have no problem. I have no problem with tipping for good service But I don't like being I don't like being dark patterned into doing it if that makes sense I don't like Tipping pretty much at all I also don't like the fact that these people in a lot of cases get paid like under minimum wage because of tipping laws and all this other weird stuff. So like I'm a do it. I will engage with the system because I don't want someone who's like statistically probably just trying to get by to have to get by even less because of my like. I don't like tipping. therefore I will not do it. So''s It feels like a weird heel to die on these days. Yeah, exactly. It is much more comfortable in countries where tipping is not a thing though. I am It's way nicer. I am finding tiip inflation becoming a significant problem. hereere who is this in whoo is this in chat just now? I hate it when the options are. twenty five percent, thirty five percent, and forty five percent This is in float plane chat. Yeah, this is from magnetic flux And then the other part of it is that restaurant bills are going up buy so much And tipping instead of being like A few dollars is based on percentage. and it kind of reminds me of what happened with like realtor fees here in Vancouver. is that our house prices like Bold. And the realtor fees were still just a percentage of the total transaction. And you're looking at it going like Hey, so The work that you did was the same as before. But the absolute dollar value that you're claiming is I couldn't help noticing a do three times What's up with that U ye Also dual agency was legal here forever and there's still loopholes that allow it. So like it's a whole crazy thing where as far as I can tell, the entire Industry is incentivized for prices just go up whether a realtor is representing you or the other party they're still being compensated as a percentage of the transaction. So like, That's a pretty big conflict of interest. anyway, sorry, side this is a side tangent is I'm being reminded that I'm running late for things. Oh shoot. Okay. well let's keep going. Let's here, I'm gonna push this one to next week. Hold on, let me just do this. Cment Okay that is super cool. but yeah we talk about it next week Yeah, it was super cool But it's not particularly time sensitive We can talk about I'm doing a dedicated video on this at Computex Okay, Okay Yeah that can push. Cool. And then okay, this is this is mostly just speaking of conflicts of interest, my brother in law. works for Scy, and I thought this was pretty cool. He was talking to me about it over dinner and now it's being reported over at Games Beat. my brother in law's company. Um What the hell is this? is back for twenty twenty six announcing a new format. This is This is the wrong article. L the article you clicked on. Yeah, whoops Let's just, let's try this for crying think that is just a bad link Nice. I can start reading through it while you bring it up. No,'s fine. I got it Neantic spatial You know, remember the mapping and AI spinoff of Pokemon Go's creator, Nantk, is partnering with Specy Geospatial. So that's my brother in law's company, a network of ten thousand plus drone pilots. The goal is to turn raw drone photos into highly detailed photore realistic three D maps and reconstructions called Gaussin sppllats Currently, Spexiy has six million plus acres mpped at a resolution of around ten times sharper than satellite images And they plan to map cities across North America and beyond and are currently targeting around three hundred US cities Um Nantix Spatial Tech automatically processes these images into interactive city scale three D models This is pretty huge because fresh data is really key for training advanced AI models and ensuring that things like self driving cars or delivery drones or robots have an understanding of real world geometry in order to navigate safely h Bill Lakeland, SpecxC' CEO, also spoke on how synthetic data doesn't work When you think about something like a first responder trying to get access to a window or something that needs to be in an exact location AI can't just fill in details, exact locations matter. So the use cases for this vary. Infrastructure utility companies can use the data to inspect bridges or power lines or pipelines safely from the air, without risk to humans or without if we're being realistic time In transit, city planners and governments can create digital twins of cities to simulate construction and managing zoning or planning smarter infrastructure. Energy operators can monitor large scale solar farms, wind turbines and oil fields. and of course, AI and robotics development can train on real world three D geometry for self driving cars delivery drones. et ceter. So the way it works basically is like you download their app And I think there's only like one particular model of DJI drone, or there might be a couple of models that are supported. And then they have just kind of like likeike zones. that you can just you go to You launch your drone and you just say go And your drone basically goes up and it goes, click click click, click, click click click click click. And it just captures a bunch of imagery and then you update it. and they're working on a system that I believe is still in like fairly early stages, but where basically if a city wants one of these super high resolution, super detailed maps They pay Sxy And then Scy goes, okay, here's the bounties Go haam. Here's all the zones where you can go earn a bounty. So people who just wanted to like Go out. Get some fresh air, fly their drone anyway. can make some money while they're doing it.. Yeah. So it kind of it's cool that they're partnering with Nantic, who was the same company that kind of went Hey, we're creating like geospatial mapping. and if you happen to want to go out for a walk anyway, then you can go collect some Pokemon and by the way, we're going, you know build this geospatial mapping thing. So it seems like a pretty cool partnership and that was a big announcement for them this week. So I thought I'd kind of kind of share that. ice Um Oh yeah, here it is U Noki posted, I think for crying out loud it? Yeah, I think this video has an example of the mapping around thirty seconds. Yeah, here we go So this is super cool As a tech guy, this video was super light on the like, oh my go, this looks like an actual RTS, but it's the real world. like stuff that I thought was really cool. It's more like flashy. but very cool And you know what else is cool is Luke just kind of taken off before we do after dark. Wh don't you just, yeah, why don't you head out if you got to go, and then I gota Is there any that are addressed to me that I can do quickly and then just rip out of here? Yeah, sure. What mic are you using? I need to do the razor spot though before we do dark. Okay sure They're in potential if you want to read them for you first. Go for it. All right. U Are we going to put the laptop here running cyberpunk again or are we not doing that again? Oh, cool All right, well the Razor bllade eighteen was built for heavy work It's just me. That's sure, right. I have my garbage here, Dan. The Razorblade eighteen was built for heavier They're never going to sponsor this again. It was built for heavy workloads from modern AAA games to rendering three D assets, to running local LLM inference and compiling code basases. Basically you name it, the Razorblade eighteen can do it. And that's thanks to Intel's B Okay, this is a different. okay, that's thans to Intel's core Ultr nine two hundred ninety HX plus processor with twenty four cores, giving you up to five point five gigahertz boost clocks. And if you wna game on your bllade eighteen, it happens to include an NvidDia GFce RTX five thousand ninety with twenty four gigabytes of VRAM You are getting an eighteen inch dual mode display. can do four K two hundred and forty hertz Or ten thousand eightDP four hundred and forty Htz, sorry, excuse me, UHD plus and FHD plus. so I think that would be sixteen ten. And to keep everything cool under these heavier workloads, it has an advanced vapor chamber cooling system, including their updated multi fan design. You get high speed connectivity, including Thunderbolt five, Wi seven, two and a half gig ethernet And you get TXs spatial audio from the speakers So if you want to grab a blade sixteen, which is the one we talked about earlier or a blade eighteen today, all you got toa do is go to the link in the description or scan this QR code On screen Allright, timee to flip to Adark, Mrter Dan. Ok doky Did you have a look through some of those ones in potential? Luke. didid I? Oh no, sorry. Okay. All good. you were just get of sh What sh sh. What's interesting about the sixteen inch there also has a fifty nine unit, which is kind of cool. If you want a smaller one? Yeah. Luke, what mic are you using Uh this is the DJI Mike Three Luke, have you been to the Bar H five in Tokyo If not, highly recommend it U I don't drink I mean if it's a drinking bar it's a bar. It seems to be a drinking bar. Luke, how have you liked? I appreciate this Jestin, but I will probably skip it. FH six I played it a bit at Whaleand. We're racing some people. It seems cool. It seems like FH five in Japan, which is cool With no cappuccino I'm still angry. No cappuccino. No ABCs. There's the autozam? No No two thousand nine accura. Just absolute worst game. What a scam. What a scam. Absolute scam. I guess for both of you, what is your least favorite part of maintaining the WN show streak This needeing to go somewhere when the WN show is on, yeah. Yeah, the challenging hours when you're traveling of like aligning the people who are not traveling and the people who are traveling is pretty tough. I think overall, I like the WN S show streak. It's It's just it's such a part of my weekly routine at this point that I feel like If it was a Friday afternoon And I was not doing WN show I'd like I'd start to get like kind of agitated Like I wouldn't really know It's weird. Yeah, becausecause we've done it early. like we've done very early in the day WN shows and it'll be like Friday afternoon and I'm like I getting like the shakes, Like I don't know where to go, I don't know what to do Yeah I've been doing a show for every Friday at least for the last twelve years Who needs the social life? No.. I mean, that's stupid. Yeah. It's dumb. We got Luke. Yeah U Luke, have you heard of Mitchell the Moose Hooper? He's a Canadian strong manan and reigning worldld strongest man. Oh yeah. Canadian Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, dude's a beast. Se seems like a nice dude too. Yeah. I know it's a long shot, but would it what would it take for you to do a thirty day switch to Mac or Apple challenge? Would love to hear your thoughts on Mac OS after your recent experience with Linux I could do it on my laptop, I'm sure And that could be interesting and neat Doing that on my desktop would be the death of me, I think What if we gave you like a cheese grater or something with all the sre sticker on it to make you feel better. I mean, we still have a Mac Pro kicking around, so you could take that trash can? N No, we have like a Noese c. I think it could be interesting like forcing myself to get used to using MacOS and seeing if I could U find a way to not just hate it by Yeah, good luck with that. Like exposure. Actually Some exposure does help. Yeah. Hey, LLD, I work as a flight instructor and find my students tend to get humbled when they try to land. When is the time you have found yourself being overconfident only to be humbled and get an appreciation for a skill I find that the older I get, the more sure I am that whatever someone else is doing is probably pretty hard Um I think the last time that something was my go. Even more harder than I expected it to be Yeah you are. was was when u Someone tried to coach me on cranking nineties in Fortnite and just I watched them do it and U, you know, it looked like, okay, it looked like it was like hard but that I should at least be able to do it at slow speed But I just like I couldn't I couldn't muscle memory it. It was I mean, admittedly, I only tried for like four minutes or something, but it just Uh Okay, Rocket League's another one. Rocket League doesn't look that hard. When you watch someone who really knows what they're doing playing it. But I mean, you've got to decide like five seconds ahead of time where you need to be in five seconds with basically pinpoint precision, especially aerials like it's ridiculous. Like dribbling is probably witchcraft. I was trying to play with my son and his friends one time and I was like, oh yeah, this is like when my dad tried to play Mario with us and it was just kind of a waste of everyone's time. I'll just I'll be in the room and I'll cheer. That's what I'll do. That's how I can contribute A eul and Nad questions for Linus. Have your kids tried running Linux on their machines? I think you can go if you want, Luke. Yeah, I was just going to say, am I Yeah take up here? I don't go enthus this anymore. Okay. Yeah you got to say. No right Oh S I call them. You could call me. Okay, cool. callalling me would be fine. Okaykay, bye No, my kids have not tried Linux on their machines Because if my kids try Linux, that's me trying Linux and I have I've done enough trying Linux and troubleshooting for a while My next for A, I think, is going to be just on one machine this time. I think it was very ambitious what I did where I tried to do like all my machines at once with different distros. It was a lot of fun but it was also Um, it kind of consumed a lot of the appetite that I have had for trying an OS for just a little bit here. How are you doing over there, Dan she said. He's agile like that. Look at that. He's already back in his chair. It's crazy U next Howdy from Texas DLL? Markiplier finally released Iron Lung on YouTube. They mentioned that there was going to be a collab with y'all, and I'm wondering what happened with that, cheers. Oh we just both got busy. I think he and I have an exchange on Dcord of' just like, hey, And then several months pass. Hey, sorry I missed you blah blah Several months passed Oh yeah, thanks for getting back to me. Sorry, I've been really busy and then several months pass and it's like Hey, yeah, I'm still totally done to do something. I know it's been a while, you know, no pressure. Like is I think One day One day we'll do something I'd love to and I think he'd love to, but it's been it's been a very It's been a very busy life for both of us As a whole, thank you, Dan. That is actually U perfect in every way You've truly done a marvelous thing. I'm a professional streamer. Yeah, all right U Okay, more. let's see If a village built its own fiber internet network and they could connect anything to the network, what would be the coolest or wildlest thing for them to install for their residents? Linist toown maybe? I know one thing that I want to do is like a buddy backup server target as like an employment perk here don't know if the cost is going to make sense anymore. This is something that I kind of thought about doing before hard drives and memory and everything absolutely exploded in cost Um, and, you know, just random perks that don't have you know, any kind of monetary benefit are They have cost, you know, so we have to balance that with all the other sort of perks that we offer and all of our other expenses. but I think just like u like like a like a village scale, you know, cloud storage would be kind of cool. Just like running your own your own infra. I mean, I think it'd be really cool in the age of like LLMs and AI. how cool would it be to have like a townwide AI that doesn't share your data outside of the town and everything's like secure or encrypted or whatever. Would anybody actually do this? No. but you asked me, what would be a cooler wild thing. And so I'm telling you that even though I know that it's not realistic Hey, LD, any thoughts on the future of antich cheat while gaming on Linux? Will developers start supporting Linux or perhaps some form of compatibility later? Or will Linux gamers just suffer Colin's sad face? I'll be honest with you, I just don't think that that is ever going to be reconciled in a way that is satisfactory to Linux gamers. I think the cold hard truth is that On the windows side, on the console side, anti cheap protections are still making their way deeper and deeper or higher and higher in permissions levels And on Linux the entire Architecture is inherently Um against prohibiting the user from accessing, you know whatever it is they want about their computer. That's like the whole idea is that you own your computer and you can do whatever you want and you can't be locked out of it But that's also the whole way that modern antiat works is that there's protected spaces where you and your own applications that you install on your computer are not allowed to tamper with them Um It just doesn't seem like it's going to happen. There may be exceptions we may get like a gaming for Linux distro that is that is designed to be anti friendly. Um then you're going to haveet another distro. Is anybody asking for that Um Raden four hundred twenty eight says, could Valve create an anttee, but they have enough clout and reason? I mean, they have one It doesnn't seem to work too great So Yeah All right, hit me Dan. Greetings, Wan.dlL. My second build included a two KQD OLED monitor. I'm struggling because so far, since I play simpler texture games, I feel like I'm not appreciating the OLE quality. Any suggestions? I mean, whyy force something? I mean, I u Hm. that's interesting. I play simpler textuure games because to me, the quality of an OLA doesn't really stand out depending on the like the textures and the games you're playing.s more it's more that the contrast really pops. So you could play like an old like You know, by modern standards, like ugly looking game, you could play like torch lightight. and it would probably look flipping awesome on an OLE just because like the vibes of like dungeon crawling with a super high contrast display would be awesome. One thing that might help you get the most out of it is is playing around with auto HDR There's both the one that's included in Windows and also the one that NVIidia includes in their drivers that works with both games and with your your passive media, like movies and anime and whatever else That's something that might really help your OED punch a little bit more The auto stuff is not going to look good and everything, but there are definitely titles and there are definitely genres of content that it actually works shockingly well with My GF loves the leggings, especially the deep pockets. Was this something Yvonne asked for? And how involved was she in the design features? desesign features? notot much, but Yvonne was quite involved in just like trialing the quality and the fit as part of our typical development process. Like it's something that I do for I'm afraid to say every like men's garment we've ever done, because I don't know that for sure ninety nine percent of them. like I try on every y garment. I mean, my whole philosophy is that if it's not good enough for me to wear, then it's not good enough for us to sell in our store. It's just that simple. And I'm not an ideal fit model. I don't have you know the context of what makes a good legging. So obviously I went to people in my life that you know, I could trust to be picky and u and be critical and and but also have, you know the context to give appropriate constructive critical feedback becauseuse if I just looked at it and I was like, oh, I don't know it looks pretty good or' like, I don't know, it doesn't good. Like that's not helpful. I don't use them every day Um, so I just felt like yeah,'d be it'd be great to get you know, women around here at the office to to be part of that process. and it wasn't just Yuonne And the last one I've got for you today That's a good message. all the flow planes. Hi, LTT. I have a question that I've never seen a good answer to Why is Nintendo able to use Nvidia while Sony and Microsoft can't Coles Thanks again for a great show. Oh, it's not at all that they can't. I mean, the original Xbox used like a cutting edge GFce GPU. It was actually, if I recall correctly, it was ahead of what was available for PC's at that time as an add in card by like several months. Um, as for U as for Sony Im trying to think. haveave they ever? I don't think they've ever used Nvidia. They they rolled their own stuff and then they did that IBM thing with Cell and then PS four they went, yeah, they went radon Um, And then Nintendo hasn't always used Nvidia either. In fact, I think this switch was the first time they used AMD back in the Wii and the Wi U So it basically comes down to all the same sort of business decisions that You know Any company that sends out an RFQ and goes through and creates an optimal bill of materials and goes through the R and D of creating their device is going to go through, where they're going to evaluate the performance and the price and the thermal and power characteristics of of all of these of all of their various options and they're going to go with what makes the most sense. If I had to guess I would say that in Vidia O excuse me Nintendo went with NVvidia for the Switch because Nobbody else had anything that was competitive that power profile for the level of performance that they wanted to make the switch as portable as it was. And then with the Switch too, I talked about this a fair bit in the lead up to it. U NVidia's DLSS is just plain better than the other things that are available in the market. and so If I was Nintendo and I was trying to build a very portable, very slim, very power efficient gaming system, I might be willing to pay the NVIA tax and you bet your butt, there's going to be an Nvidia tax compared to what Microsoft and what Sony are paying from AMD. It's no secret that in the PS four U, and Xbox O days Those contracts selling those radon chips and those CPUs for consoles was a big part of AMD's ongoing survival. Nowadays not so much, but Back then it was very important, so I suspect that Microsoft and Sony got pretty good deals All right, I'm gonna to ask it. Give a certain man a call Sorry for triggering everybody with this sound Well I' been it in this c L show be the first time ever. goodbye. K hand. Oh right I I don't know Same well time ye. Maybe not for you