The Forever Sock and Copper Infusion

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That is That's why it's interesting. It's unfortunately, that's really interesting right now. That's the world that we live in. Yeah, I don't make manan, I had another one, but I don't rem where it was. Too late T l I' rolling the intro. time. There's a flock camera that appeared in someone's yard and they were like, what? And we're going to talk about flock cameras again because I feel like people should know about them The show is brought to you today by Factor Meals Odu, Hres and Green Man gaming along with our Rp partner D brand, our laptop partner Razor and our chair partner Oso Razor. Why don't we jump right into our headline topic this week. Sony PlayStation made waves when they announced that physical disc production will be ending in january twenty twenty eight for new games released on PlayStation consoles, and that future games will be available at retailers in digital formats On. i. e, likely download codes and boxes A that date, developers will apparently still be able to place orders for game discs of titles that were previously released. This comes the same Day. the same to actually Let's, you know what, No, This comes the same day as the announcement of the closure of the PlayStation three and Vita digital storefronts in july twenty twenty seven where the games that you purchased will remain available for download which I guess is good. but you will no longer be able to buy anymore, which is Bad. Also, this came the same week as the removal of five hundred and fifty movies from Sony Picturess Core due to licensing issues These will no longer be available to you even if you owned them What is Sony Picture's core? Am I the only one that doesn't know what this is? I assume it's a streaming service So any pictures Eainment app for PS four and PS five. There you go. You're not a Playsttation gamer, so you don't know where to go loop. I guess. I didn't know what it was either This Epic quality limitless entertainment unless we remove a bunch of them. there's definitely a limit. This perfect storm has resulted in huge backlash online, including multiple petitions to have Sony continue physical game releases, with multiple tens of thousands of signatures, and even a lawmaker in Brazil sending a notice to a consumer protection agency asking that Sony needs to be investigated Despite all of this, however, Sony is unlikely to backtrack as they've been preparing this transition for quite some time with employees reportedly already starting to test, develop, and deploy new manufacturing processes for optics such as micro lenses in what used to be their disc making facilities. We have an optional neat fact here, by the way This announcement has increased the demand for the current PS five add on disk drive, and Sony has limited sales to one per order. Yes, because that is of course, the solution to a company behaving in an anti consumer monopolistic fashion. Let's buy their stuff. fast, quickly. quickly buy their stuff. As fast as we can All right Discussion question. There's a lot of them. There's quite a few discussion questions. I think there's a lot to discuss here. Do you think there is? Do you think this change will have a big impact on the sale of PlayStation consoles and games in the future I am very much a physical disc guy I've really bought a decent amount of blue rays in the last little while. Okay, N one. Uh I'm not saying you had low eleven Apollo eleven. Yeah Apollo eleven. Yeah.ot What's Apollo eleven? Yeah. That's why I got it. Is that a movie Heollllow eleven Yeah,, but like you mean thirteen, right? N. Apollo eleven movie. What the devil is Oh? Documentary. Oh, cool, okay, all right, okay, okay, cool. Okay All right, cool. Anyways. Yeahah, I very much like physical media. I also bought I wanted to get Pokopia for Emma. Yeah. So and I have a switch too. so I didn't do the digital download. I was in Japan recently, so I bought the Japanese version, which if you put a Japanese or any other language as far as my understanding goes cart into like an English or any other language switch it'll playay it in the language of your local switch There's no there's none of that old those old problems we used to run into. about region locks, right? Yeah. so it's cool to have the case and the cart be in Japanese, but then still be able to understand what the heck is going on with the game. So I like physical media always have But I don't think it's going to have a big impact If we look at the percentage of sales of people who have actually been buying physical media, it's not that high compared to people buying digital. And when the new wave of consoles comes out, as far as min understanding goes, the primary competition is also going to have no disk drive. And this is quantifiable. So according to Daniel Amad of Nico Partners, the current full game physical digital sales split is about twenty two percent physical to seventy eight percent digital on Playsttation. I'm honestly surprised it's so high for physical. And more like ten percent to ninety percent over on Xbox. So more digital. And I suspect that's Oh, I wonder why? That's a really big difference I wonder if Xbox is more popular in the North American market and less popular elsewhere and the North American market is more tuned for digital. US does skew more digital. Yeah. But I wonder if that's like like is there any other explanation? there less Xbox is sold with phhysical drives No, I don't think so Uh is it is that twelve percent shift whichich is is an overdoubling realistically because it went from ten percent on Xbox to twenty two percent on PlayStation. So I don't think it's just I don't think calling a twelve percent shift is even fair enough. That's an overdoubling in the amount of people that are buying physical media. And it's on the much more popular platform, which is also interesting Yeah But yeah, I think I think when the next gen of consoles come around, people are going to buy a console. And if your option is no disk drive versus No disk drive AndXo's what you're going to buy. And Xbox just keeps doing the stuff they've been doing Yep You're probably going to buy a Plsttation And it's not going to have a disk drive. So like And at the end of the day, we know that gamers are going to just buy it. Yeah. if if GTA Seven Okay, comes out for the PlayStation seven or eight or whatever, however many playaystations we get by the time you get. We don't even have GTA six yet. You know you're going you know you're going to buy it. I mean, we talked last week about how GTA six is not going to be available physically out of the gate. right? And I had speculated that even though they are going to make a disc available later, that this does appear to be a tactical move to capitalize on all of the initial sales in that window and make sure that they don't have a big wave of secondhand market discs to compete against. you know, three months in as they're trying to continue to charge full price for this game, right U Anything that they can do to extend that window where they control the market pricing for the game is going to be something that's going to be very appealing to a company like Take two. and very appealing to a company like Sony, like our next question here is Do you think Sony will use their new monopoly to raise the price of games or eliminate sales Not necessarily. I think that like like promotions if anything They seem to be ramping up promotions. They seem to be yeah, they seem to be very competitive when it comes to promotions these days and competition does still exist for that for that dollar U even if it doesn't exist within the PlayStation walled garden itself, right? Like Sony can't be completely out to lunch in terms of their pricing compared to you know what Valve is doing over on steam, at least not forever, or eventually something's got to give, right Um But what I do think that they will do is I think they will use The non existence of these other pressures these outside pressures to maintain game pricing higher I don't think they're going to get rid of sales and promos entirely. I don't think they will necessarily, you know try to push to ninety dollars, one hundred dollars, one hundred and ten dollars retail for a game Gamers have shown that there is only a certain percentage of people and only for certain Por releases. where they're willing to spend more than that like sixty to seventy US dollars. Unless it's a skin. which I I got to make sure unless they're getting way less for it. And then no problem. But if they're getting a full fat game, there's no way donon't even consider it Yeah, thank you for that. two hundred and fifty dollars AE skin. Stick it in their ins, brother All right, I're next Our next discussion question is, do you think there's any chance that a PS six or a project Hix will have a disk drive for backwards compatibility and four K Blu ray playback I think, oh, oh, this is hilarious. There's really little text here. Copium Reports say no for both and I'm sad, please give me copium. Did David prepare this topic likeike it was. it was David who may feels like who prepared this topic. David, we're not we're not getting it. See, the thing is that optical Optical drive mechanisms are one of those things kind of like hard drives. Like you know how It's kind of confusing, right? How you can have a thirty terabyte hard drive and you can have a one terabyte hard drive, and the cost per terabyte varies wildly As you get up towards the very, very high capacity stuff, it's really expensive per terabytte. And then as you get to the very low capacity stuff It's really expensive per terabyte And there's this sweet spot kind of in the middle And the reason for that is that there's just a certain bare amount of bill of materials that has to go into manufacturing. Anything that has like a motor in it And you go forrahan, now you're paying a premium And it's probably fancier, newer, lower capacity engineering, blah blah, blah, blah blah. Yeah. and the premium. If you're on the l end, now you're dealing with building materials issues and shipping and all this other kind of stuff. So in the same way optical drives, what I'm trying to illustrate is that No matter how many know gigabytes you can store on the disk, So you'll have your cutting edge ones that are really expensive and then you'll have your like old ones that actually are really expensive per amount you can store in the sweet spot could kind of end up in the middle sometimes because there's just a a certain amount of stuff that you have to put in it. It has to have a motor. It has to have like an optical laser like has to have a lens assembly. it has to have a laser in it. It has to have all this stuff. and they have to be reliable mechanisms. They're prone to failure. They're prone to getting dust in them U and they are adding to the cost of Project Helix and the PlayStation sixix at a time when I'm not expecting anybody to you feel bad for our corporate overlords, especially as they're ripping away movies that people paid for and you know taking away physical media and the ability to lend it and trade it that comes with it. But they are under pressure Um Due to local, thank you for that. Due to worldwide shortages in both DRAM and NAN Flash that are going to drive the prices up for these consoles to the point where I'm looking at it going, holy shit are they even going to sell Like Microsoft, I think has been pretty upfront that Project Helix could be over a thousand dollars and I wouldn't be surprised by that. We saw Sony proactively increase the price of the PlayStation five. And the David and I were talking about this, sort of, is this four D chess Um, prriming us for the PlayStation six being more expensive like like maybe matching this new price for the PS five. but I mean, looking at the way that DRAM contract pricing is continuing to ratch it up I think it could be even more than that. I think would you considering look, would you consider delaying your console release to see if RAM is going to come down Or would you just sign a fat contract for RAM and just set the price and hope it works? Like okay, let's position you am I am I Sony? A I microsoft? That's why I just kind of like into action real Am I trying to survive or am I playing from a position of strength here? Yeah, think I think we have to position you as Xbox because the Playsttation answer, I think is more obvious. I think you just go with your plan, set your price as it is, blame it on RAM because it's fair and keep moving. But for Xbox You barely even have a market So you got to find a way to enter it Okay, here's my risk though For a little while, the Xbox Series X could still be usable because Now that playaystations are just computers over the four five, six generation where it's a AMDCPU and an AMDGPU Forwards and backwards compatibility of games pretty much just comes down to, okay Not quite, but let's change the graphical fidelity knobs here and here and here and here. and this is how it runs on this version, and this is how it runs on this one and this one and so on and so forth, right. It is very conceivable that we will see a PlayStation six launch that goes very much like the PS five launch did where it was it was sold alongside the PS four with the same games available for both consoles in some cases, even with a single license where U where you could you could just use the PS four version of it. Like we did this in sccrapyard Wars, my team where I bought a PS four version of Cyberpunk And then it entitled me to the PS five version on my PS five. Yeah. right? So we could see these consoles exist alongside each other for quite an extended period of time. Looking forward, PS five and PS six also be just higher and lower fidelity gameplay versions of what is effectively the same kind of generation of console for the games that come out around that launch period. That's an interesting point because I was also going to point out that right now it feels like gamers almost want a different thing Uh around here if you can find them all. but the games that people seem to be really excited about lately are like Pak, Mecha Chameleon these like I actually bought both of those on Steam Summer saale play peek with the kids. Yeah. But it's games that are actually just fun again. Yeah. and I don't see Conscil performance pushers pushing massive numbers right now. that actually ties in perfectly to where I was going with this Because the way that I see it The Xbox series X could survive as a competitor in that market As long as Sony and as long as the game developers and game publishers who are targeting the PlayStation six, are still concerned with, okay, but will it run on the PS five? Rightight. So they they I think they will be. So they they will be for some time, especially if the PS six is a slow burn if it sells slowly. And especially if it's just so expensive. In the current climate, people might be able to afford a game. a lot of people don't want to buy a console or a computer or anything. Microsoft could still sell Xbox Series X during that time, but here's the challenge They can't just go, okay D RM's cheap now, press go Right? That's not how a console launch works They need to be developing, you know, AAA launch titles. Three years prior to launch, four years prior to launch, maybe even. they need to be working with third party developers around what, you know their library of games is going to be for this launch. So it's not like they can just turn on a dime and go, okay, we're going hold, hold, hold, steady, steady. Okay, okay, go Like it doesn't, it doesn't really Wor like that And so if they were to try to execute on something like that, where Sony launches the PSX and Microsoft goes, Okaykay, no, we're going to be like a value competitor andre we're going to eat them out from the bottom. And then once we've got people back in the Xbox ecosystem and excited about Xbox, again, boom, Project Helix, it's going to be, we're going to do our mic drop ninety nine. You know, whatever. We're going to have our moment. And and all those games, all those like ApleA games for PS six they're going to get ported over and we're like it's going to be great I just don't A, I don't think it's going to work like that. And B, I don't think Microsoft, Xbox, gaming, whatever they're calling themselves right now is looking like a competent enough organization to pull it off That feels pretty clear He yo, what? from the bottom, C come on, you knowew what I meant? From the bottom of the price band Calm down, float plane chat. You relax. Next discussion question, because there's quite a few in here, but they're good. What makes physical releases more important for consoles than PC and then there's a little subnote of shout out to GOG? I think there's a fairly obvious argument, which is like I'll call it preserving Preserving games on consoles is harder. Yeah I mean, No, I don't even think you have to be systems. I don't think you have to be all tricorn hatty about it. I think that No, I think that's very true, especially when you look at how much earlier consoles engaged in the very locked down style of multiplayer where there was no hosted servers. Everything was based on your subscription to Xbox Live or PlayStation equivalent. I can't remember what it's called Um I think that o man, what makes them more important? Because one of the things that makes them so important is the ability to acquire them secondhand. and lend them. right? Like that's where the value is. Every time we've looked at it, buuying games secondhand is just an outstanding freaking value compared to just about any other way of requiring them but I have to admit that as someone who is an adult with A job that limits my time Right I no longer go on Facebook Marketplace and try to find a used disk It's just not really in my vocabulary. I just will, you know, I'll put it on my wish list wait for a steam summer sale or if I'm really desperate to play it. I will just play it and as a PC gamer for whom You know, I went through I went through a very frustrating experience back in the mid two thousands. I had Lord of the Rings, the Battle for Middle Earth. G greatreat game, by the way. Like you'd think as like like an IP licensed game, you know, probably sucked or whatever. Unironically, like outstanding RTS, lots of fun. Yeah, I remember this game. Yeah. Yeah it was really fun I someomehow like L good So I don't know, water got on it or something, whatever, My CD key, my license key that. like obscured somehow. and I've never found a way to get it back And so I just like couldn't play it anymore. And so I guess I grieved this twenty years ago And maybe that makes it a little bit easier for me, but And so maybe that's what makes this more important for consoles than for PCs is that I saw what happened to us I saw how the orange box You could buy it at EB games But what was in it? People memed on it at the time. The code. It just had a piece of paper with a code on it Yeah Orange box Mmess paper. I bet I bet there's wow, this like doesn't exist anymore been too long interternet does forget. Candal Duth Um I think so okay, there's the it's, you know, you can definitely pirate on both, but it's easier to pirate on PC or Sorry, preserve. The other one in my mind is that Consoles have more of an ability Is it just steam? Is it just the fact that steam exists? I do think because I was going to say consoles have more of more of an ability and history of like shutting down access to things I do don think I have to be that vague, but yeah. good guy valve and not just good guy valve, but valve staying power, the fact that they continue to exist. Competition on the PC platform helps us out a lot the I mean, you mentioned GOG GOG exists Epic Games Epic Game store. you might not love it. You might not want it on your computer but It sure as heck exists. Steam exists Does origin still exist Y Ori I don't think it's called origin anymore. YA app. EA app exists. other marketplaces Do exist, whereas On PlayStation on Xbox. That's kind of the whole point is that they don't exist. With that said, I would be very interested to see what happens over time with that because We saw where we were watching in real time, what's happening with the erosion, again, shout out at Epic Games here. they get another mention, the erosion of their ability to maintain their exclusive app store Yeah. didid I say Apple already Whatever. Yeahah. on so So looking at what's happening on the iPhone and on Android and how the pressure is finally mounting to allow third party marketplaces on these devices. If I was Sony or I was Microsoft, I would be watching that very intently and I would be trying to get out ahead of it. lest I be perceived as a monopoly at some point. Yeah. I mot not necessarily sure. I think I think in some ways, PC already lost this war Um I do think there are things that make it more important. I think we've seen from Nintendo them and just now from PlayStation, right? They shut down the PS three and PS Vita digital storefronts. We've seen Nintendo do the same thing in the past. I think it was like the we. there was this really legendary story of Super Mario Maker Um there was this Oh, they had to beat the very last not yet beaten Yeah level or something like that. they pulled it off like like minutes or hours before Yeah. it was no longer going to be accessible anymore. Yeah, like that's that's I'm happy that like really cool story came out of it. Like the group of people that tried to complete like genuinely complete every map and then they figured out that the one map So to submit a level to suuper Mario Maker, you had to beat it yourself But they ended up figuring out that one that they had such a hard time beating was tasked. so tool assisted. Yeah. So it wasn't an actual person who played it. But then a real human actually did end up beating it before the timer was up, which is just so sick. Like that's cool Blight The environment around it sucked. The environment around it was people weren't gonna be to play these games anymore U I think, or at least not add new levels or something. I I think it was that it was no longer somethingomet was changing track of Sure. somethingomething was substantially changing Um And I think largely. because of Steam staying power. a lot of that hasn't been on the platform level on PC. It has been on the individual game or publisher level. Yeah. We've seen Ubisoft do this, we've seen EA do this, We've seen big groups do this. But MMO's, I mean, PC players were the first to lose entire games that not only had they bought, That there's a crazy thing. MMO's, you used to buy the game and it only came with like a month of access So not only did you buy the game, but you would You would pay years of subscription potentially and then you would pour hours of your life into it and then it would just Be gone. You just can't log in anymore. your character's gone, your armor' gone, your achievements are gone, everything's gone goodby So did we just like, do we grieve it already? Is that? I don't know. And like there's weird things like I don't know the full story there, but Didn't go? Didn't something super weird happen to go Oh L Ancient. Oh, that go. Sorry, I should have given a lot more information than I did. The board came? Yeah. For like ancient times. thought I thought like, u Didn't they like overwrite source or something Oh I can't I can't remember what happened with CSO. I don't I'm not an person so I don't anymore. so I don't really know. Upgrade. Yeahah, that's not CSco was kept as a CS two beta and is now a separated game as well. Okay. so they have like Maybe fixed it Okay. So basically updated to CS two. Yes. ye Yeah, that's what you're thinking of. Oh CS two. I forgot CS two even existed I thought Go was the new one You need to stop touching grass. I mean, it's none of it' gonna to matter because Condndition zero is coming next year, right? So Hey let's Shout out counterstrike Cndition Zero. There's something no one play or heard. yeah, I mean I still I think I still have a box that has like an ad for Cndition zero on it or something U Nice, more like sales zero. Yeah. botom. But yeah, I think there's like PC is not without its flaws in this arena. No. I think they're not as Maybe brutal and not as fresh. Yeah But we've already lost a lot of those battles. moving on. our next question here is what's going to differentiate consoles from PCs in the future And this is a big question mark for me I mean, okay, Okaykay, let's, you know, let's go back. let's go back generations, right? Let's go back to when I was a kid, you got the Nest, you got this Nest. What differentiates consoles from PCs? Well, how about the fact that like you can go from Not playing video games to playing video games in like no time. Five seconds. Yeah. a kid can do it And also that's the literally the only way physically and softwarely to play that game. Okay, there, that differentiates it. Okaykay? So we move on to you know N sixty four game cbe. You know what? don't forget forget Nintendo. o, we move on to the PlayStation, right? So now well Piracy made the Playsttation dirt freaking cheap for, you know, your college age students, your high school age students. bigig time. The graphics. What you could get in terms of M, the Play sttation looked So good You probably spend less on an entire playaystation. then you would spend on just a graphics card to put in your computer that you had to have. and computers were flipping expensive. Everybody even like had them yet at that point. Most people had a family computer, but not everyone. L it was a different time guys. It was a different freaking time. Okay, so way better ground A lot of the family computers were not playing Games like that. Yeah Yeah, like it wouldn't be gaming You're having fun in paint and space pinball. L it's not Yeah dog. Yeah. Okay. So you had the enormous game library that could be like fairly easily pirated if you knew someone with a sea burner. And then just, you know, unassailable graphics and the price price the PS one was what three hundred bucks. Gest one price Uh no, no, no. launch Rrice at lunch. Yeah, two ninety nine cents. That was it. Okay. So we fast forward to you know, the PS three. The PS three was a very compelling value. It was the best It was like the cheapest Blu ray player you could get. Oh, and this was true of the PS two as well. So it was the cheapest DVD player you could get and it played a bunch of video games. and then the PS three did the same thing. Cheapest blue ray player And it played video games. It's like, yeah, yeah, I wonder why these were successful and they were sitting in everyone's living room Playsttation four once again, Sony went back to basics. Okay four ninety nine. yeah, it's a higher price, but like you, inflation and whatnot and all of that And like really, really good performance for the money still. Like we tried to build a PS four killer back in the day and we found that it just playing with brand new hardware was not possible. You couldn't build You couldn't build a PC system no matter what you used. I mean, even the PS five as recently as like a couple of months ago, without resorting to secondh hardware You could not build a competitive PC for that price So it's always been kind of the same story, no matter how far back you go. You've got really compelling performance per dollar and exclusive games and end or killer features that are added on in order to increase the overall value of the package Oh yeah, right. And as recently as the PS five, the ability to buy disk games and freely lend them and resell them So now what We've got Project Helix and PS six, which are rumored to be like a thousand plus dollars. Even today, if you give me a thousand dollars budget, I can build a pretty decent PC. Yeah and adjusted free inflation, the PS one would have been like six hundred and fifty bucks. Yeah So so okay, you're not going to have like just the, you know, the price point anymore Okay, you're not going to have disks. Now you've got these lockdown game marketplaces that I am beholden to their their blessing of when I can have a good price on something. Okaykay? so that that blows chunks You've got locked down peripheral compatibility in a world where SteamOS exists and I can plug in any controller I want, and Windows also exists and is still a single powerhell command to pirate I don't know why I accept that I have to use a certified peripheral in this day and age You've still got your exclusive titles. and I think this is a big part of why we're seeing Sony Pivot because I think they recognize that there is Absolutely Nothing else What else could possibly Cpel someone to buy a PS six if it isn't Sony Exclusive titles, which Nintendo figured out forever ago and never unfigured out and just continued to only publish on their own platforms, which is why the swwitch too, for all the meming on it, about you having a crappy screen or being overpriced or also raising its price or whatever, is selling Do you see it, you you hear it's like the second best start for a Nintendo console? I'm not too surprised about that I'm also not too surprised that it didn't keep G going super well, if that makes sense. It's still going well as far as my saystanding goes. Six days ago, Nintendo Switch two becomes the second fastest selling console in US. history after its first year. Yeah I just feel like Most people are probably playing switch one games on it for a lot of their gameplay. Sure. why not? I mean which is fair enough. I enjoy playing Switch one games that, you know, better fidelity for like an extra ten bucks buck it was. If you never upgraded. So if you had the Switch one the whole time And you never upgrade it to like an OLED or whatever the other little things are. Yeah Yeah. Anyway. if you never upgraded and stuff and so your refresh was what like seven years or something I don't know how long it's beenrigin seven eight years or something like that. That's not too bad realistically to gain the jump in performance and everything else. Y. And then's portable. It offers oh, that's another thing. right? So that's another thing that the PlayStation sixix and Project Helix won't do is they won't offer a different enough gaming experience. The switch two, I can take with me. Yeah. I can undock my one controller and I can use it as two crappier controllers while I'm on an airplane My PS six won't do that. Play with a buddy or whatever else. Exactly So don't know Speaking of Nintendo, speaking of Nintendo, one of the one of the lines on here I think we might be jumping a couple but I think it's relevant right now. Yeah is how good does the switch to at four hundred and fifty dollars US soon to be five hundred dollars US? Look these days. what do you think of their game cart Game key cart situation I have to admit that I didn't pay as close attention to the game key cart situation as maybe I should have So the last thing I want to do is take a firm stance on it when frankly, I just donon't really understand it that well. From what I understand and chat Help me out here, okay The controversy is that there's no actual data on the Ct play off of it. Yes But in the same way that it always has been, that cart is still a license for the game So I can you can trade it, you can sell it, you can lend it. I like those things. And I don't give a ph I still do becausecause it still requires a download What if Nintendo shuts the swwitch store down becausecause the Nintendo box is out And now they have the box store or whatever. Now I can't download my game for some freaking reason. I forget what prominent person said this earlier this week, but they they said it very well. Um the the best Hope for game preservation is and probably always will be piracy. Piracy So I'm not concerned about that. Because somebody will crack the encryption And that game will always exist. Okay, sorry. Unique username said, So you'd rather be stuck with a crappy pre alpha quality build. No because I'd rather download the update But if I can't, I'd like to be able to play the game. That does not mean I'd rather be stuck with it You've had you've had like, Put the disk in, update the game since like the mid two thousands Like that's not when everything was physical games. And that's why I guess I don't really care as much. I still want to be able to possibly launch it That's that's the the thing for me I would like to But they could block you anyway. Like if they really, if they really wanted to fuck you, then They could like I mean, it's Nintendo, right? Yeah Buy a new one Yeah. buy it on the new console. We're turn them off. It seems like not a completely unfair strawman argument, but like a little bit of one that makes sense. because that's another step. I see where you're going. Okaykay, hold on, hold on, no, no. I'm not going at something quite that unrealistic though. I'm talking The console has a way new firmware update And that old version of the game just like doesn't run That's what I mean. I don't even mean intentionally. No, okay, that makes more sense. I what I was saying like it's not that unreasonable. You could be locked into a game won't launch situation if you have a like grossly outdated game and you can't download the update regardless of you know Nintendo's intent And so for that reason, I just want don't it's we're beholden to them anyway. I've been pretty okay with game key carts which is one of the reasons why I buy them I don't think I've bought any digital games on my switch. I have a bunch of carts. I wish the game was on it But I'm not like raising hell over it.. I do really like that I can and have done I do really like that I can pass carts to people and let them play my games. That's very cool I've That is worth it for me. I will basically only buy physical carts. It's also an excuse to get things from Willow or buy cool Japanese picopia or do whatever else. I like the experience. I like having physical media I I get I get notot I'm not going to say negative, but I get not a positive feeling scrolling through my Steam library. It's fun to go through game cards Like I have I have a kill switch. that? Yeah I have a kill switch case for my switch. When I take the top off and it has all the games mounted under the lid, and I'm like going through trying to think what I want to play. That's kind of cool I I get like, o, nice. I get to like sit and play switch now. cool. What do I get to check out? I never have that particular experience sitting down with steam. I find big picture is better that way. That could make sense. It's better. L I have very little experience with big picture. I ran into something really frustrating Was this earlier today? This might have been earlier today because I bought a game And I was trying to tell someone which game I bought and I couldn't remember and Maybe you can help me because maybe I'm an idiot But I couldn't figure out how to sort my games list here by recently purchased. I have this problem very recently Okay, very, very recently. So then I jump into big picture Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, shut up I jump in a big picture. I go to my library now And it's as simple as press Y to sort by and d out of de library. and it's right there. And I was like, oh yeah, it's alabaster Dawn. Radical Fish's new game, which I have not been paid to endorse and have not even so much as opened yet. But given that Radical Fish is incredible and already made like one of my favorite games of all time, crosscode I would happily give them another twenty five dollars forty nine cents Canadian just for having made crosscode. And by the way, this looks fucking awesome and I can't wait to play it. Oh dude. Yeahah major code vibes. So I was trying to so I was trying to it was my son actually. this was last night now I remember. So I was trying to be like, Yeahah, I bought this new game. Buddy hell, what one was it? And I couldn't find a way to sort the damn thing. Yeah, I don't know. I just thought I was kind of stupid. I had that problem recently. Just aboutove the filter, there's a sort by recent activity. Yeah, that's not what I'm talking about.s not activity. I haven' launched the game yet. So I sorted it by recent activity and could not find the game that I had just purchased. So like, yeah I don't know. Oh my God. No key of says On normal steam, the only way as far as I know Pathetic. is to go to account details View licenses product keys and it's sorted by day of purchase in the form of a list Yeah, so like what's going on? Come on. What happened? Did they just like accidentally disable a thing or something? I don't know, but AI hallucinated a way for me to do it in the desktop interface, which made my life even more difficult because I was trying to follow along with hallucinated instructions. Oh, that's funny So annoying Another thing I would like Um is like let's see here. Gi Tarkov does not play on Linux. I know that and it's on the front page, so it's easy U Should I be going near your screen Sure. I just I had this recently where I was looking at something. Oh, I saw Marathon was on sale If Do you want to full screen your steam interface just so it doesn't look so messy? Sure U I don't know if it's going to be up here Yeah, whatever. I'm just going to keep using Targo because I know Targv doesn't work. But this is also Windows so it wouldn't show up anywhways. But you know how you can sort your games? Like if I go to my library and again, it's not going to be here because I'm on Windows, but there's usually a little penguin icon and you can click it and then it' only show games that work on the. Yep. I don't know necessarily what the threshold for that is, but sure why not It would be pretty cool if I'm in the store and maybe it's here and I just couldn't find it, but it'd be pretty cool if when I'm in the store, it would show the proton DB rating and have a link to proton DB for it so I could click on it. So if it's like gold, I could click on it and see why it's not platinum or whatever That wouldd be pretty neat Wh we're whileile we're coming up with wishlist features, I love yours by the way. That's really good U Can we make it so that when I look at a game in my library, so here, let's go with Alabaster Dawn Okay Why does this page look like but And why is it that none of these other tabs here are not but Why is it that if I want to see the not butt version of this game's information where there's like cool trailers and cool artwork and stuff, I have to go to store page, wait for that to load And then all the cool like information about it, I think like how many players it supports and if it's local multiplayer and like all this interesting stuff only shows up on the store page I think this is Actually genuinely one of the reasons why I said like looking through the Steam librarary is just kind of 'use you click on stuff, you click on this is so unexciting. Yeah. This does not make me excited to play the game. Why do you only care about exciting me when I'm on the store page? Yeah. This is so much prettier and better. Yeah. Like if I want to access like reviews and stuff, what if I want to look at the reviews of the game I bought. Why is that not just here? There's also like and You know, I can't be the only person watching this that that does this. The summer sales on right now, right? Steam has had incredibly legendary sales many, many years. I remember when they first started doing things like the suummer sale, yes, I'm that old. How insanely exciting they were and how much disgusting amounts of money I spent on it There are a bunch of games I'll find during one of these sales through, you know, super deep discounts or going through the like Dcovery queue or whatever else. and I'm like, oh wow, yeah, that actually looks really cool. And it's like pretty good rating. I'll pick that up and I'll pick up like three or four different games. and then not have time to play them. and then see them in my steam list like a year later. Not even remember why you were excited for. When I just see the title, I don't even remember what kind of game it is. I don't remember if it's a shooter, I don'tember if it's RTS. I don't remember If I bought it because it's a co op game, I don't I basically just have to go to the store Okay, hold on. someomeone in on Hickge or however I pronounce that in Floatplane Chat says you can click this little info thing here and it gives you some information like full controller support and the developers, radical fish games. But then if you click another game It goes away. you have to click that every time. click. Why helps a little bit, but I'd still just rather go to the store. Why is it that random patch notes seem more important? thenen I have maybe read one of those patch notes Probably less than five times in my life With that said, once again Big picture. is better for this So this may be the kind of thing where Luke, you just need to use big picture Join join the current year. and use big picture more. Is that a thing? Although even this note note, actually, this is just as bad. So this needs to be fixed where it's just like Yeah, Bo Bola added Far Cry F to their library. Who cares? Who even is that guy? You know what it would be a lot better than that know. You know it would be a lot better than that. Yeah, in my opinion is a friend's recently active Like in this particular game, I think that would be really cool Yeah that we have played previously and we have on their wishlist, but no doesn't previously doesn't to me mean like anything Off right of the game A Top played recently with an hour's count normally So just Under the bottom right of the top Bnder They can't see what we're seeing right now. I can't see what you're seeing either I don't know you're talking about. I don't see anything. Okay But o oh only if someone played it recently Yeah, no that that one's a thing, I think. But anyway, I just I want the game page to be a little bit more exciting and feel a little bit more like, where's where's the box art? You know, where's the where's the concept artwork? Wh's the Where's the sales pitch? Sell me on the game that's in my library and I do wonder if that's If that's intentional to a deree, I mean, why would Valve want you to play something that's already in your library? They'd much rather you play something that's in the store and go buy a new one Makes sense. I mean, I like to think that general seem super It seems like it's usually apathy Rather than I will I malice. giveive them the u credit here that theeneit of the doubt. Yeahah, that's probably not what they're doing I just I doubt it Man, this st Steam account, Ohh, it's Why are you locked into steam on that? I don't it's It's tape when we did the tape to tape. A That's why you got steams on them. Make sense. Yeah Ive launched Steam and I was expecting me need to log into myself and it was already logged into something. I was like, what the heck? All right Jump into another topic, you want to pick one, that was a A, That was a high protein topic. We can get it can get into talking about stuff like that.ot of meat on it. Yeah. Monk Dasy said I do like the recommended by friends feature. That's been really nice to see my friends. Yeah, I've noticed that Mr. David G does actually review things on Steam He's a big part of the I never actually talked to him about it directly. I heard you after the fact said that he liked it, but I saw him review D z seven first light on steam. And he was quite positive about it. and I was like, gave a super positive bonus shoot I will try the shooter. Iagine well just buy it. Yeah So I did and it's been great. So I like that part. There's tons about steam that I really like.'s just You know, Just like everything on the planet. I think there's ways it could be better. Just like anything Yeah, anything we love, we tend to very passionate about Yeah, which can come out really positively and can also come out really Negatively. ye Speaking of U thingsings that can be positive or negative. Valve dropped the Dbrand Steam machine companion cube case down the legal incinerator after its makers neglected to get their permission Dbrand has cancellled its portal theme companion cube case, refunding every buyer for one simple reason. It just never asked Valve for permission to use the IP. The case launched june twenty second became DBrand's second fastest selling product ever behind only its Switch two case. And then Valve's legal team reached out to point out that the companion cube is Valve's intellectual property, and Dbrand had no license Iran took it all down, appealed the valve for an official license and got A no Wh probably shouldn't be way too surprising. What makes this wild is how much DBrand sank into it before checking. The company says it put a whole one thousand hours into engineering, built forty four sets of injection molding tools. That's expensive. That is expensive That's probably worse than the thousand hours. I would not be surprised if those two things combined got into the seven figure range just fromrom the context that I have from you know, having a company that makes physical goods with injection molding That' pretty good content. That's fucking nuts. Pretty good context. They redesigned the whole thing from scratch, redesigned it. Oh more than once to get the console to cradle perfectly and even rented out a university campus to film the launch video Dbrands credit. They owned it completely saying Valve didn't do anything wrong here. That's a real change in tone for them. Back in twenty twenty one, they make the dark plates, oh why I remember this Replacement back plates for the PS five and openly baited Sony with a go ahead sue us on the product page. Sony sent a cease and desist over the face plate design and its knockoff PlayStation button symbols and Dbrand fired back by Sony by calling Sony terrorists before pulling the plates and quickly re releasing a tweaked version of full apology to valve is a very different Debrand than that one, I don'tree A I think that I think I see where you're going with this, but let's let's let's let them cook if they just made a case the steam machine, I don't think it would be a problem. The problem is that they very, very specifically made it look like the companion cube. Even the PlayStation symbols, I mean, they're X's and circles and stuff. likes they might have been able to try to get away with it. I think if you go to a court, the court's going to be like, bh, it's on the controller. You didn't use any ones other than the four that are on the controller. So they might have still lost But I'm also not surprised that they pivoted to plates that they could sell Um, But yeah, this is just very specifically I don't know. It's like if someone made a like holster for the LT screwdriver. And you're like, okay, that's neat But then they like put your logo on it And then it's like, okay now now we're now we're in trouble. Now it's like kind of weird. Or not even that Put like your face on it O or I'm trying to think of something that's only made the IP. Made a launch video in the style of an LTT video. Even that I think you just kind of think it's funny. M It depends. Okay, it depends. Did you watch the launch video for the compompanion Cube case? No It was very Like I'm pretty sure there was like a not modified aperture science logo in it. Yeah, see, that kind of stuff. that's the stuff where suppos to become a problem. with like the Playation one And it was a problem because of the symbols. The tone was very portally And like There was a character Dave Johnson Explicitly not to be confused with Cave Johnson Like a lot of, um And and the kind of the plot for it was that u Aperture science had been acquired by Dbrand So now we're getting into like potential like canon narrative. if this is an official product. Like you can make you could make a third party accessory for a I forward F one fifty Chair put forwards IP on it Now it might become a problem unless you get it licensed. Now it's trouble. But you can make the accessory Um It doesn't it doesn't I understand what the writer' saying whole thing makes me sad more than anything else, I think. it would it just would have been cool. It would have been cool. I mean, I got mine. So Allegedly I mean, I'm on camera with it Oh, but you totally incinerated it Yes. Yeah. I No, I said I got it. I didn't say I kept it. Right. That makes sense. So you know, I at least got to experience it And That makes me sad. that this product doesn't get to exist. And I think that Dbrand is very right to accept the blame for not seeking permission to make it But that doesn't change that the outcome for me is sad And I would have liked to see a different outcome. I also I mean, hype I understand But I would have liked a different outcome and I think that a lot of people would have liked a different outcome and what I am hoping More than anything else is that this isn't the end of the story. I hope that Um, you know, some someday you know, Dbrand could really get into making licensed products because they've got the quality They've got the they've got the execution, they've got the distribution. They've got their finger on the pulse of you know what gamers and enthusiasts want And so You know, if this was the like H Slap on the wrist. that it took for them to kind of go Okay, hold on a second. Look how well that was going to sell Yeah. The information from this is very valuable. How could we do this differently And Crush it Right? Well then Maybe that's maybe that's the best possible outcome from this I, um I don't know, man Valveves a weird company 'causeuse like from my point of view, you know, I might have looked at it and gone Well, yeah, I mean, okay, just You it's give me a cut of the like However many dollars that you're making and, you know Fine, let's do it. Why waste? You know, waste not, want not I mightd also have a hard time partnering with certain companies because of their prickly external persona. They might like I could see a certain I don't know if Valve would really care, but I could see some companies not wanting to associate with a brand through official licensing Who's going to say FUa customers on on social platforms. Man, I would hate for them to kind of lose their the chip on their shoulder over this, but then also I think losing the chip on your shoulders is part of growing up. I mean, I said stuff on WN S showow ten years ago, I wouldn't say today No no, I mean, you know that's true. Yeah Lake It doesn't mean that, you know, what I said then was not, you know valid and you know how I felt at the time, but I was I was late twenties instead of late thirties m still allowed to say late thirties, right little bit Currently legally acceptable. Ten years is just it's a long time, right Yeah swapped personersa D brand where they turn into like Rebrands like Oh wow Oh wow That's a really good name for it. D brand licensed products being called rebrand? It's like actually pretty sick. I like that. Anyway. I'm sorry for this outcome. I know a lot of people really wanted it and were really excited about it. It was one of the most exciting things about the Steam machine for me at launch. Now I'm more excited about the Steam machine, man. I've been making, I've been enjoying the crap out of my week with it Um do I get to do another I'm talking about the steam machine again? Yeah sure I have a I have a little thing I want to add after that so you go for it first ere my steam machine notes A actually, I don't even have my dock open on this computer because even though this is my portable computer and therefore it's the one that I can bring with me to set, I haven't been using it I have been carrying the steam machine between home and the office Jadden, when he was working in office for a very we didn't have like computers we could give him at that point in time. So he just unironically used his steam deck for development and at work and at home. He would just dock it when he was at home, he'd dock it when he was at work and use it for software development for quite a while, like unironically. Floatplane built on steam deeck. Yeah. We're crazy for a bit. We're Linus Media Group. How did we not have any computers? It it was like It was it laptops or something. I don't remember what it was. I don't remember what the what the do. This was quite a while ago at this point Like years Okay I don't like it. Maybe it was monitors was the problem? We have always had a shortage of monitors. might have been my entire time I've been here. It I don't remember what the actual issue was, but there was some reason where it like actually did make sense for him to work on his steam deeck. Anyho, overall, I still love it But the honeymoon period is definitely coming to a close I was trying to copy files off of an iPhone recently and Massive credit, KDE Connect, veryery cool Anyone ever tried to transfer two hundred video clips over KD Connect Okay, well, it doesn't work What happened Nothing closes. Oh just dies. And so I kind of went, oh my Godd. ' on Apple and this is on Apple, their interface sucks for selecting the photos that you want. L there's no obvious way to batch it so you can like do a few. and then I resorted to taking a screenshot of where I left off with what I had selected for the last batch so that I could continue selecting for the next batch. That just sucked and was slow So I started with like twenty at a time and it was working. And then I went up to, I think forty five and it got as far as transferred thirty five out of forty five and then just closed, no indication of like other than manually reading the file names on my computer. And then the thumbnails are obviously a little different because why would they be the same? And then having to like check the detailed thing on the phone to try to match up which ones went, which ones It's two hundred plus files. practical. So I eventually gave up. and used a Windows computer. Android works f. It's actually great But the iPhone in KDE is apparently just Not ever at least Katie. Not on stimulus. Um, so that was a that was a downer I Man, what else did I discover It was okay, blah blah, blah Mm. Oh, o dude, tails scale. With the A high guide took me like forty seconds to set up Dude haaving access to so like once I had the files on the computer, or like I copied these used to Windows machine to copy them from my iPhone to my NAS. and then I was like, okay, but I'm not going I'm not going go easy on my Steam machine because I could have just used tailscale to copy it from my Windows machine to our network storage here. But I was like, no, I'm going to do that on steamach So fast So easy. The network location mounted, done, good to go freaking awesome. Um, o Nah, H The process of downloading zipped files off of Google Drive. And then trying to do anything with them is absolute dog poo. Yeah. Not sure why, but also uploading sucks. You can't just drag and drop. Yeah, you can't h it. Oh You can go in Google Drive and you can go upload file and then you can select files and you can upload them, but just dragging and dropping them no dice. I say I've dragged dropped, but I'm not teechnically on the same thing. Yep But my GoXLR worked flawlessly out of the box. And when you compare that to the current Windows experience where there's like a GitHub repo that has some mismatched version, like I was not able to get my GoXLR mini working on a brand new installation on a laptop recently. I spent like an hour at it and I kept having it like it was detecting a different firmware version for both the Go XLR app and then the Goaxxlar control panel, both of which, as far as I can tell, you need So while it still works perfectly on my old machine that like has everything set up with my full size GoXLR, I could not get the mini working on a new machine and there was no obvious step by step resources that I was able to use. and it doesn't help that that mini had been sitting for like two or three years So it was on old firmware that I think I then like updated maybe like too far on one of them and like I can't get it matching anymore. I don't know what happened. But meanwhile, they Go XLR just worked on Steam OS, which was pretty cool. So yeah, I'm definitely rununning into some bumps But also it's just Comfortable for the most part For the most part, it's really good. I'm really enjoying using it Is it time for my quick aside topic Yeah. Are you tired of the price of computers? Is the price of RAM? Y getting you down? It is. Is the price of groceries getting you down? It Is the price of gas because America just keeps bombing everyone getting you down Well, I have for you a great one of the best first person shooter games of all time on sale for six dollars Canadian. Even less if it's in USD. eighty five percent off. Overwhelmingly positive ninety five thousand reviews. the game Wow Now is the time buy it. Now is the time. cheheck it out I thought you were transitioning into another topic or For those who are watching along, it's Titan Fall two. I don't know if you ever actually said that or listening along. It's Titan Fall two. Yeah. I don't know if you ever actually said that. No It is really great It's fantastic. For six dollars. For six US dollars, you should just buy it and play it. Canadian sorry, four US dollars. Yeah. And the system requirements are pretty modest these days. Yeah It came out in twenty sixteen. It still looks pretty good though. Oh, it looks fine. Yeah. It looks acceptably fine. It's kind of like how how twenty sixteen era movie CGI was also like It's fine. They put the budget into it. It was good enough. You can totally still watch it today. You know what? actually is holding up really well? One of my kids has a really tough time with emmotional moments in movies. She's just a She is very U emmpathetic? Yeah Yeah, definitely very empathetic creature. And so for a long time, she's avoided intense movies And then we visited Universal stududios in wasas it in Japan a while back I don't know, whatever the one that has a Jurassic park ride whereere you like hang out of the thing. And she was like super proud of herself for being like for like riding this like pretty scary coaster And And I was like, I told her at the time, it was just like an offhand comment. I was like, manan, if you can handle Jurassic Park the ride, you can definitely handle Jurassic Park the movie, even though I know generally you find movies scary. And she was on this like high of like having done it that she was like, yeah, I want to watch Jurassic Park. And so I hadn't gotten around to it. This was like a while back. And so we finally started watching it together as a family the other night Um, That's kind of my laundry folding routine. can I can excuse passassive entertainment as long as I'm folding laundry. So so yeah, would have been yeah, it would have been on Wednesday night, I guess I was doing laundry. So anyway, we flipped on Jurassic Park. And dude, it holds up pretty well I was like I was pretty impressed with nineteen ninety four, man. Yeah. ninety four Yeah Anyway, I don't know where I was going with that And some of the animatronic stuff when they put a lot of work into ninety three. ninety three Super good. Yeah. like dude, the egg hatching like obviously as a, you know grown adult, like I'm looking at it going, o, that's a cute little you know puppet or whatever. But like for the kids, it wasn't immersion breaking. And that's the line Right? Like you can you could have modern CGI that's just like It's not believable and it breaks your immersion or you can have like old robots or makeup or whatever, whatever it is. there's always a line where it's like, I know it's special effects, but I can keep my suspension of disbelief versus like Oh my go Godd, that's made of cardbard You know, like Yeah. rightight? Yeah. Anyway, really really enjoying the heck out of it. And if you need something you'll enjoy the heck out of What now? I was just making a meme aboutote Tful two. Okay, yes,. Yeah,peaking of not enjoying things, I guess. Netflix now requires every user profile to be tied to a unique email address. Profile Not account User profile Netflix is now requiring nearly every profile on an account to have its own unique email address and separate loggin permanent change a Netflix spokesperson confirmed started rolling out june fifteenth. Kids profiles are the only exception. This turns what used to be simple profile slots up to five under one login into something much closer to individual user accounts It's still rolling out gradually. So not everyone has been prompted yet. Netflix frames it as a convenience. That's a that's a That's a tough jump and security upgrade Okay. Your own login means easier sign on on new devices, independent account recovery, two factor authentication and settings like language and playback tied to you instead of the account holder. Critics see it differently Applying each profile to an identifiable email is the next logical step in the password sharing crackdown that started in twenty twenty two since it makes casual sharing across households harder and gives Netflix cleaner per user data for its ad supported tier. That's the one Netflix's own Privacy policy notes email addresses may be shared with marketing and advertising partners. Nice For now there's a workaround. ussers report, you can go into account settings, into security section and turn off feature testing. Okay, that's a temporary solution. Oh yeah too remove the prompt at least until Netflix makes it mandatory. It also breaks a less common use case. People who set up multiple profiles to organize content by genre rather than by person now have to tie each junk profile to a real email The real email part doesn't bother me too much. You can spin up a Gail and seventeen seconds flat these days. Yeah. And with password managers, just slap that email into the password manager and then Forget about it U, but that is this is obviously, you know, along the path to worse things Yeah. I mean, the it's it's all about the login sharing crackdown, as far as I can tell. Yes. I think that the extra user data and extra email addresses is kind of a happy accident not fully. I mean, I'm sure they've figured out that that's going to be good, but I suspect the main impetus for this is Um You know, hey, now grandpa can have his own email address and account so that when it's time for him to log in, you don't have to share your email address and your password with him. Isn't that good? If we all just stopped sharing our email addresses and passwords, which actually is a good thing for us to not share email addresses and passwords. It's just that clearly security for your Netflix account like I'm not that wayd but also now instead of just being able to share your email and password when Grandpa forgets, you're now going to have to try to figure out what the heck his password is when he calls you anyways and tries to get you to help him log into his thing and he's changed his password and you can't find anywhere because he refuses to use the password manager properly and you want to pull your darn hair out So I actually don't think this is more convenient. I think there's going to be more deep annoyances like that Um evenven the like, oh, everyone has independent email recovery account recovery thing now Like, is that sorry, Is that helpful? Was that required In the past No because he didn't have independent accountters for things. So like I don't even see that as a benefit. I see that as a required new feature for the thing that they're pushing. It's just how the system works. 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And one of the reasons why I wanted to talk about this is the Fock security thing has been an ongoing topic on Wano for a while and of large concern for people who have them installed near them And I just think it's funny and interesting how the community is responding to them Um because there's I don't know anything about this, theseese guys B But there's sites like anti fllock that I've seen show up. which is a public m map of flock safety ALPR cameras, antif fllock catalogs and automatically licensense plate readers spotted in public buuilt on open street map and community submissions. findind a camera we don't have We'll pay you in crypto Wow And there's other similar bounty systems. for flw cameras out there And it's interesting Like this, you know, we've talked at length for many years on the show about like appropriate uses of cryptocurrency This seems like a prime use of crypt awwesome actually. It seems really awesome. like I remember There was some really interesting stuff in Ukraine when the Ukrainian currency got all whack when Russia first invaded. And there was people who were like trying to buy cars and stuff in order to escape. and they were using crypto. and that was like, oh wow, like okay, naturally interesting use for crypto Um But this seems like you've talked about your Oh, with his like drone mapping company. Yeah, Yeah, it's my brother. That's pretty cool. This is a pretty interesting solution.. Yeah It's u It's interesteresting Very interesting But yeah, I think there's there's probably a reason why people want u a map of where they all are, and I think there's people taking actionables based on the map to a certain degree. so maybe submit new cameras to the map if you find it. an idea. Oh wow. man, there's such interesting things, man This is wild Um, Fock hopper So you can see where all the flock cameras are. and then if I read the short description properly, you can use this to map yourself to places while avoiding the flock cameras No way But you're telling Fla hopper where you're going. Yeah, which, you know, maybe who knows who they. Is this a honey pot I mean, it might be open street mat powered again But yeah, you are telling them the way you're going. I'm going from The Seattle Convention Center Sure U SFO. sureure. Let's go to SFO to SFO. Yeah, we're going to go down to Cali down California way avoidance settings. distance Oh there Exceeds maximum Routes longer than three hundred miles are not supported. The straight line distance is six hundred and ninety miles, but road's only than three hundred mileses. U Okay, so you could just go to, I don't know, Microsoft headquarters. Hmm U Are't they in Seattle They are in Redmond. I feel like that should be close enough. There we go Okay, direct route, no So this is not just flock So I think that's what flock cameras are is these ALPR cameras. R. So they're detecting theoretically all the different kinds Direct privacy Interesting. Oh wait, what's the privacy one? So I think a direct route. So basically this is the most direct route and there aren't any flaw cameras. Got it. But if there was a direct route that might have a few cameras or a privacy route, you could decide between the two. It's on IowS Interesting. There's there's all this like infrastructure popping up around the fact that these cameras exist. That's been the fascinating part of the story like the craziest part of all of this is I feel like kindinds of people that are gonna get caught then in what they're doing are going to be the ones that H either leg. in many cases, just like too dumb to use these tools. like you're not going, you're not going to spot someone who plans their crime. that's if that's the justification for all of this surveillance. With that said, man, I mean, I've watched enough true crime stuff to see that a lot of criminals are pretty Yeah pretty incompetent. Yeah. Like the number of people that just take their cell phone with them to murder somebody is like mind blowing to me No, I agree. Yeah, yep. We've talked about that a bit. There's there's someone in chat said there's a your city is voting on these soon tracker Thats I haven't I didn't find it, but that's interesting. Oh, that's pretty cool. There's there's just there's a ton of stuff. I just find it very interesting. You know what I find interesting Creator warehouse announcements. Um No new announcements this week FP announcements, then, thanks if it flows well Sammy Thanks, Ammy. I mean, I have a couple things for actually I have a couple things for LTT store. We have cables in stock right now. They are our top selling item at the moment. So if you w to send a checkout message, now is a great time to do it and pick up some of our trrue spec cables. You'll find them under electronics Cables And Bipi, Bopi, A to C, C to C You name it, Oh, they're not all in stock anymore. Okaykay. Well, A lot of them are in stock. You can still get like the five foot twenty gigabit per second, the one meter forty gigabit. We still do have quite a few decent options. So now is a great time to go check them out. People are flipping loving Th these cables Freakaking loving theseese cables Um So So freaking excited that they're finally in stock. We have more of them coming. 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You can type a message, select any color you want, you can make it anonymous, or you can show your first name and it last initial And go ahead and check out fromom there, it will go to prodroucer Dan Who is wearing that sweater again? Who will pop it up or who will reply to you, or who will curate it. And why don't we do a couple of curated cs so we can show you guys how it works Yeah, I've got a couple here for you Hello, LLD. How often does your distributor get audited? Crossing my fingers for getting the correct size on my second replacement garment I think they do annual inventory audits, but as far as like Um you know what you're asking, I think you're asking like how often do we check in on them? And it's very, very regularly. There's just been a lot of flux over the last year with various tariffs and logistical challenges and people have been a lot busier working on mitigating dumb bullshit and had a lot less time for just doing their normal jobs and making everything run smoother U Th these things don't happen very often, but when they do, it's obviously very high profile and very embarrassing. What's more likely than anything else is like a master carton of that garment got mislabeled in the wrong size and It was not properly investigated after the first return, and so it just The exact same error was made again. It doesn't Our ship accuracy is actually not that bad. Like we do track this stuff internally and it's Very good That doesn't mean anything to the pointo point one percent of people who get the wrong thing. I get that But we got you You know we'll get you taken care of. Thank you for your patience Hi STD, short, tall and dead shhooting a bit of whimsy your way. If adventure was a color, what would that color be for each of you and why? You guys are the best, wishing you an awesome weekend Aventure was a color I'm going to say forest green It says wilderness to me Like I like like like like that that like pine needle green, you know, that almost has like a smell to it Yeah, I'm gonna go with pine You tend to adventure in the forest You just asked. You know, what color would be I could. Could I not I could I feel like you don't prefer those adventures. I mean, what adventure would I prefer, sir? I assume an adventure is outdoors, so that rules out a lot of adventure for me in terms of what I would choose to do if left to my own devices There I the red. I'm a huge fan of tyype two F And reed is like a little aggro and tyype two ph is usually pretty aggro when you're in the middle of it. Nice. o Yeah Similar vein to Luke. I'm going with like free range egg yolk orange little bit more on the warm side of things. just kind of screams like I have to wear clothing that I can be seen from a helicopter in That's when you know it's gonna be good. Yeah. Maybe that's type three fun when you end up in the hospital. When you wear the bright colored backpack, not because you're trying to like be like stealthy and cool and camo, but because you're like, oh, I will break my leg someone finds me. with a blinking light. Yeah, Yeah That's when it's like, nice, we're doing good Yeah Yeah Some people are wondering, so I found this helpful graphic from semiad. comot Oh yeah, type three Yeah Type two is the way to go Miserable when it's happening, fun in retrospect. All right. Yeah. masochism or I find I find there Those things are more often nototably memorable Like you struggled through something with other people and like kindind of like it when type one fun accidentally turns into tyype two fun And doesn't necessarily cross over into type three? Yeah, Let's have a fun day out. Wow, this is great. Oh no Yeah, that can sometimes be really fun too, actually. because then you get to rise to the occasion. And it's awful when it's happening and then you look back on it, it's kind of sick. Yeah type three iss no good No, no, I don't think that's I think that's fun. Yeah Yeah, I think it said right in it, not fun. All right, you know what is fun though Japanese company Tarlin International launches hyper realistic capsule toy PC parts that you can assemble and play with. Tiny motherboards, cases and CPU's are coming after Tarlin Inks a collab Big four PieC parts makers. Do you want to fire up the site? We'll go to a screen cap for you? These look super cute Oh I' there yeah. So you can actually assemble the parts into a working Tiny tower madeade through official licensing deals with AzRck gigabyte MSI and Intel That's a really odd Big four U I don't see A sus there and also If we're talking CPU makers AMD's not there and no NvIDA you can anyway, have like server racks. The teased first wave includes three branded miniature motherboards. wait Where did you access? thist even this isn't even it. This is from the dock. U Tyss one Japan list of products is what I went to you H Okay I think I just got to go to Tom's Basically. Toms has the there you go Okay So the Tased firstirst Wave includes three branded miniature motherboards, the Azrak Z eight hundred ninety steel Legend Wifi, the Gigabyte Z eight hundred ninety AS Elite WiFi seven plus, and MSI Meg Z eight hundred ninety Ace, along with an Intel Core Ultra seven two hundred seventy K plus CPU that installs into any of the boards There's also case fans, a power supply Um at the tower case, Gatch upon So E is about Each three dollar pull is random and you need roughly five drops to complete a build Harlin also sells licensed one twelve scale palm network equipment capsules that recreate real data center and enterprise gear down to the model number, spanning Cisco rackmount switches, Lenovo Think systems, Dell P Edge, Fordnet, forortigate firewalls, extchme networks An see NetApp and F five alongside past oddities like a temporary toilet series and an articulated crayfish They even had an earlier Intel Cori seven eighty seven hundred CP capsule back in twenty twenty four There's no final release date for full parts list or full parts list for the new PC line yet Obviously, I wouldn't spend three dollars on this, let alone multiple three dollars so that I could do multiple polls But people will. I think it's cute that It exists and if someone else buys it, I will look at it and I will say, That's cute. I'm glad I didn't spend my money on it. How would you feel about being forced to spend your money on it through an employee spending money on it to make like a short or something is realistically t know, I guess the Gatcha O part of it is that you just buy the capsule. So it's like, is that one of the turny things or is it a claw machine thing? Be you have a claw machine. So you could recreate the experience with a claw machine Yeah Um, Yeah. if if the I know, I think this is a random. I think this is a random chance one and I'm not really that into it. Although one of one of my Badminton friends recently told me that apparently for a a lot or at least some Gachcha stuff if you're willing to buy an entire master carton of it. It's guaranteed to contain everything Yeah. So he cool. Yeah, he had a bunch of them And I was like, oh man, like you didn't waste a bunch of money to like get every single lunded. He's like, no, no, no, no, no, you can just, if you like them enough that you know you want all of them, then you can just buy the whole thing Um That I don't mind. Yeah, Crystal says depends on the thing, but yeah. So that I don't mind so much. Sure. If I I're still just buying thing that you want. Yeah I'm still just buying plastic junk, but at least I'm buying a plastic junk thing that I know I want. I don't want to just spend money on something I don't know what it is. Yeah. So yeah, I'd be fine with that. I mean, o man, there's no money in shorts. like you know that, right? Like I probably I don't know how much these cost, but I probably wouldn't get it back for shorts Like we uploaded a short today on the main channel that has Oh actually no, I should use one from a from an earlier day. just because monetization has like a half a day or a one day delay on it or something like that here. Racing with steam controllers got Almost nine hundred thousand views and made one hundred and eight dollars, literally not even enough to buy the multiple steam controllers we used. Like it's Never mind, you know, paying people to work on it and edit it and whatever. L it it's purely just a an awareness segment of the funnel thing for us, except when it manages to go somewhat viral. likeike shorts revenue is It's rash. It's a mystery to me that YouTube is pushing it so hard because I just don't see how there's a viable business model in there for them Like in cases where the short purely exists to promote our products then it could kind of make sense. like we did this one a little while ago, asking, how many of our magnetic cable management arches does it take to hold up a PC And it's just like your classic short Oh, escalating stakes. We're going to keep trying it and then eventually, we succeed that made Let's see. He when when I click a video in the studio app And then I go back, it doesn't take me back to the studio app. It locks me in in the YouTube app So that did two and a half million views. and made three hundred dollars So good thing, that was on an already broken PC. Otherwise we wouldn't have even broken even on the parts for making the video. Even as it is, like I'd be surprised if that even covers the labor of making this video. Presumably we might have sold some table management arches or something, but like Shorts. is brutal from like a revenue standpoint, we just We just do it to like be there If that kind of makes sense, kindind of like how we started the Wan showow. Just to have a foothold in live So we were doing something around live. If live ends up being the entire future of online media, then we won't be starting for the We are there, yeah. Ads are about to get a bit quieter in California. On july first, it has become illegal for streaming platforms to play ads louder than the content being watched in the state of California. I love this idea, interestnteresting how it's going to be an execution Governor Gavin Newsom signed this bill, SB five hundred seventy six into law back in october twenty twenty five before it was only broadcast cable and satellite TV providers that were affected by the commOM. commomercial advertising Loudness Mitigationation Act, which was signed back into law in twenty ten It is still not one hundred percent confirmed if this will only apply to users in California if these streaming companies will keep ads at their current volume in other states Streaming services in the past have argued they are already trying to manage the loudness of advertisements that come from serice side ad insertion that may be inconsistent with the loudness of the programs. Also argued it's tough due to the broad range of output devices, including TV's tablets, and phones that part But the one thing that does have me kind of wondering is like What if you're watching Like effectively a silent stream Is the ad just muted because there a minimum Because like TV and stuff I can feel like it's going to be a little bit more measured, but streaming is weird. Yeah, it can be a little A lot of really weird stuff with. That said, it's also very obvious though that they're playing the ads louder on purpose. Oh yes. So if at the very least, this forces them to target a loudness that is probably pretty close to what the content creator was running their loudness at. then That's probably good enough to the point where people will stop complaining about it, which is realistically what this measure is meant to achieve. So Sone also said SMR stream for the win. I don't know, I don't know if ASMR is technically quiet. No, I don't think I' think it is. It's more about the nearness of the recording and the delivery. Yeah. Not necessarily the quietness of it. They're like whispering, but it's high gain and they're right next to the mouse might This is hilarious. Avon Fox says, it's been illegal in Australia for decades on free TV. So what they do is they highly compress ad audio so it sounds louder That's kind of what I'm saying with ASMR is like It doesn't necessarily seem like it's loud But it might be the same loudness as other content. That's hilarious All right What else we got this week? Oh, hey, in other Csole disk. Related newews Xbox is testing a disk to digital feature The Verge reports that Microsoft is testing a feature that would let Xbox One and Xbox series owners insert a physical game disk and convert it to a digital license that is tied to their account The system would make physical games behave like digital purchases with perks like cloud streaming or playay anywhere support But the license would still be tied to the disc itself So selling or lending the disk would affect access How the crap would that work? I have no idea. I shall read on Apparently not all disks are going to work, and the Verge article says that Microsoft is warning its internal testers that it all depends on how and when the disk was manufactured, as it may not have all the features needed for this program Fascinating Judged by what's going on in the market, this is likely part of a bigger shift towards more digital Xbox future, like a next gen console without a disk drive still giving current disk owners a way to preserve their libraries Oh, so that way I could pull my old Xbox off the shelf and still play my like backwards compatible Xbox games on my project Helix, assuming anybody buys it by converting that disk to a digital license. But what I'm having are two. But I'm just having a really hard time understanding How if the disc is still the license for the game And if you're going to have to put it in in order to validate the license thenen how is this any different? becausecause realistically, No one's gaming off of the the disk anymore anyway. You have to install the game. Maybe you have to do it Every once in a while, or maybe as long as that disk is not detected in another online connected Xbox. Oh, I could see that. For a certain period of time, then you are still given the license It allows you to swap games and such without needing to swap discs. Yeah, no, no. I understand that. I'm just asking how it can use the disk as the license while enabling that functionality. That's the question. But yeah, I could see them doing like Steam offline mode, for example All right, well man sounds good more flexibility is more better. I can't say that I would strongly recommend doing this. It seems like leaving the game and the disc as one thing is the most consumer friendly version of this that consumers could enjoy having the friendliness of, but I will never say no to more options for how to use the media that I paid for we can jump right into you want to talk about the U Mmories stuff. Class action lawsuit. Yeah.es. Samsung, SK Heinx and Micron sued over alleged DRamp, alleged. Yeah, sure.e alleged DRAM price fixing amid record memory costs. lawsuit claims coordinated HBM shift was cover to curtail DDR three and DDR four production Samsung bl bl blah, hit with a class action lawsuit on june twenty fifth in the Northern District of California where seventeen plaintiffs, a mix of individuals and small PC buildilding firms, accused the three of illegally coordinating to restrict DRAM supply and inflate prices. The complaint says prices have jumped roughly seven hundred percent over four years, and the three companies together control around ninety percent of the global DRAM market. filed as Garcia Guire Sure, I think versus Samsung electronics under the Section one of the Sherman Act, which you are all obviously super you know aware of. That's my favorite s know what it is. It even n drops the RApocalypse. The core claim is that the trio used the trio used the industry wide shift to HBM, this stacked memory as a pretext to wind down DDR three and DDR four production, choke conventional DRAM supply and drive up prices. The plaintiffs argue that in a truly competitive market, at least one of the three would have ramped up conventional DRAM output to capture those rising prices But none did. I also think if you look at precedents, at all you'll know that these boys be enjoying this type of activity. It is worth being clear on how hard this is to win, showing that all three output and prices soared isn't enough on its own, the plaintiffs have to prove that there was an actual agreement to coordinate not just three companies independently chasing the most profitable product, which would be APM, which is Whatould I say? APM. close. I Iant HPM which is legal. The suite learns leans. o my goodness. the suit learns leans on history to argue a pattern. Samsung and Escaad pleaded guilty to criminal DRM price fixing back in two thousand five. Aarently I can reset it by yelling That's good to know. Part of a DOJ case that Lvied. I got it. seven hundred thirty one million dollars in fines. The plaintiffs are seeking Treble you're reading it correctly, that might be just a typo in the notes Damages and a court order to end the alleged squeeze alleged I still think alleged is for. No, Tble damages is a thing. a legal remedy that allows a court to triple the amount of actual compensatory damages awarded to a prevailing plaintiff Punitive measure Got it. Let's try Lexand. Yeah, cool It's cool that someone is doing something Um, hopefully they win. This isn't going to work. No But I think it's, you know, I think it's cool that they're doing something. That's cool Nice. but like H HBM is the most lucrative product And so I think it would be pretty easy for these guys to Oh yeah, obviously. see the reason why I'm shooting down the allegedly part so quickly is just that like the precedent for this is So deep and so thorough Obviously, Yeah. Yeah, they're all chasing the most highly profitable thing. They're also all doing it in lockstep because that's even more profitable Nice. Like it's just, I don't know, it's so aw. I doubt they would be stupid enough to have a formal agreement again. But again, everyone everyone knows you know which direction the industry is going You know, there's only so that's the thing. There's only so many players, right So when you're until China steps in When you're in N VidDA And you're basically just like, well We need one billion HPM stacks Everyone's gonna know about it. Everyone's bidding on it. everyveryone is on the same page about it. So they don't have to have a formal agreement They just See the demand forecast. They see the production forecast and they go, o Demand here, production here Let's go here But hey, this is kind of neat And legitimately, meta is using custom chips to run DDR four in servers that were designed for DDR five. And to be clear, that was the headline from I believe it was Tom's hardware. Yeah, Tom's hardware's headline is metetaphight' soaring hardware cost by reusing old DDR four server memory in new DDR five only servers They're not quite just putting DDR four memory into DDR five servers. Those servers still have to have DDR five in them Meta built a custom chip that lets it pull old DDR four memory out of decommissioned servers and then run it alongside DDR five memory at a slower speed in their newer servers The chip is called Vistara, and it's apparently already running across millions of servers Normally, servers get retired after three to five years But the memory is good for seven to ten So Meta was tossing perfectly usable DDR four, which In this day and age, in this economy Yeah That's crazy U on top of that About forty percent of its fleet couldn't have its memory expanded at all which In this economy, when everybody needs more memory The trick to overcome this is CXL. a standard that lets you attach memory to a processor over the PCIE bus instead of over normal ram slots So Vistara is a custom CXL chip that bridges the old DDR four to AMD's DDR five only Epic Turrent CPUs over PCIE each of these MEM servers has seven hundred and sixty eight gigs of fast EDR five And then about two hundred and fifty six gigs of recovered DDR four for about a terabyte total. Obviously, the DDR four is much slower. It works out to roughly ten times less bandwidth. Oh my God, what a way of phrasing that. So a tenth of the bandwidth versus the directly attached DDR five And then meta handles that in software So the system will automatically shove rarely touched data onto the slower DDR four while keeping the frequently used stuff on fast DDR five. And it works well enough that Meta says it cut The number of AI servers that it needs by up to twenty five percent Our discussion question is, In this economy? No, sorry. It's when even a company the size of meta is raiding its own decommissioned servers to harvest usable RAM instead of buying new. What does that tell you about how bad the memory shortage has actually gotten Okay, so I was only partially kidding Our discussion question in this economy Yeah If you were wondering if it's all fake and of conspiracy, this basically answers your question that they would go and create this chip in order to do this, tellells you everything that you need to know. Really cool. I mean, I wasn't aware of a standard that allowed you to run More RM over piece I. CXL super cool. It's actually sweet. I never that That's awesome. Yeah It can be used for like like contemporaneous RAM too Just if you need to add like buckets and buckets and buckets around because the latency is still low It's just the bandwidth is constrained by the PCIE bandwidth. Yeah Very interesting Um But like . God, it's so brrutal to be into computers right now I think for a lot of people They're just not Pausing I think for a ton of people they're just pos. I mean, you had talked about that earlier What a current interest. Could Microsoft just Pause the next Xbox Could they just think the market it is not going to be suuper excited right now. Man. seeee, I don't I know. that contract prices are still going up I think Microsoft has said what they're expecting RAM to like double again by next year or something like that.ike I forget I forget exactly, you know what the forecast is, but hold on a second. Okaykay? I made that video a little while ago, right? When I was like, okay, the worst might be over Yeah. And I pointed at how there's actually been some dips in pring. I came across a thirty two gig kit for three hundred bucks earlier this week. like there are Okay, there there are some cracks that are starting to show and it's funny because's so bad It's not great. It's so bad. But recovery is better than going. I know it's just so funny that like That actually sounds like a steel right now. I know, but I know But hold on,, hold on. It's there's always cycles though Like no, I hear you. It's just I remember I okay. o man. I was having I was having a like a dinner at CES with my old um who children Back when I was a product manager at NCIX, and he was old school, right? been in the industry, like his whole adult life. And he was he was joking about like the not literally, but like, you know, the hookers and blow days of the of the memory industry because he was like he was like laughing. he was like, Yeahah And one stick was like a thousand dollars and you couldn't keep the things in stock. They were selling like candy. It was like a non stop party and everyone was invited and now we got you can get gigabytes and gigabytes and we're selling them for like three points margin if we're lucky, it's crazy. and so these booming bos cycles have always been part of it and I feel like What's the what's the newse The Noose meme R news? Yeah This I feel like this guy. Yeah. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it first time guy. Yeah, it's bad. It's bad that it's three hundred dollars for a kit That is bad. This two shall pass. But this two shall pass. China's gonna waddle over to the memory area and be like, hey guys Okay, remember what we did with displays? Yeah and practically everything else? And so and so I'm looking at and like and some of the other cracks that I talked about in that video, are not just still there, but they're starting to widen. I mean, the big news from Facebook earlier this week is that because apparently, just like XAI, they're not one hundred percent sure what to do with all the bloody AI compute capacity they buildil, and they're starting to lease it out to other players That's a good thing. That's very good ye. That's a good thing because what that tells us is that the insane parabolic ramp up in building is I mean, it's good a plateau. If somebody has excess capacity Not not only just that it's got it's got a plateau For all the capacity that gets rented out That's be in a fun accounting way, capacity that isn't being now built, if that makes sense Be it wasn't being fully used by them. this new upstart company is exactly another DC. That's exactly it. Yeah That's exactly it So I'm'm' I'm looking at it and I'm going, yes, the contract prices keep going up Like the deals onn the street Art N goingo parabolic The tracks the in the insatiable Appetite. are starting to show I want to see how I we're going I mean obviously we have no choice. We're going have to wait and see how it plays out, but I'm I think we're gonna to be okay in a while And if you can put off a memory upgrade right now, I'd strongly recommend that if you're building a new system, DDR four is still attainable at reasonable ish pricing and you can still get really good performance. I mean, this is something that's so important to highlight. And we talk about this in every CPU review, right where we'll put up all the numbers from labs and we'll go At ten eighty p, the new one is the fastest. it's the beesneies. buy all the fastest things, consume, consume, consume. Oh, by the way, when you turn the resolution up to even fourteen forty p, which I might remind you right now, a fourteen forty p gaming monitor. We're gonna go fourteen forty p. T hundred forty herurz, okay? We're talking a flipping gaming mon. can be had for Under two hundred US dollars. These are Canadian rubles guys. This is AOC. This isn't even some random brand that you've never heard of Aer Nitro, two hundred and fifty five cAadDs, that's times zero point seven. to get to US dollars. So it's sixty. It's seventy five off from that. So we're talking one hundred. eighty US dollars for a four thousand fourteen forty p gaming monitor. Like if that's not the upgrade you're making right now, while RAM is super expensive then maybe your priorities are not quite right. And if you have a four thousand four forty p gaming monitor We've seen it time and time again. the performance difference between the latest and greatest CPU and one that's even a few generations old Big Use the older platform. It's okay There's no shame in it Like Luke and I have advocated for years that you got to find your scrapyard wars spirit. The whole reason why scrapyard wars exists is because we were trying to scrap we were Making the popular term for it back then was Lambo videos I think these now it's more appropriately called like Halo Halo products But we were trying to find a way to make it so that people wouldn't just watch the like seven hundred eighty video seven hundred eighty nice. But like actually, that's the era we were in. Yeah. So we were trying to figure out like how do we find a way to make this Becauseuse like the sixty series, if we're going back to NvIidia cards, the sixty series cards are the ones that basically everybody buys. Nvidia' tried to shove that price performance number up to the seventy to get more dollars out of people But historically, especially back then mean suceded. suuccceed yeah, it's the fif thousand seventy now. But back then, the sixty series cards were the primary cards from videoia that people actually bought The sixty series cards will get like the least views out of all of them that we would talk about and the eighty or in rare cases, ninety or whatever series card would get by far the most views. So we were trying to find some way to prromote. You know more frugal or more cost effective or whatever you want to call it, lifestyles, while getting people to actually click on the darn videos is very hard. And like one of the only things that we really thought of to do that was scpyard wars. We went from the other end with another series Um had a more ridiculous name. wasn't like overkill B a You still do them compensor. Compensator. Yeahah.. Yeah, the compensator We meme on the top end stuff. Yeah. So we're kind of from both sides. Yeah But but you can't just release like the review of some card and it be like the one that everyone buys and have it actually get usediew. it doesn't work So weird hills, man. So we'd trying to find something. Yeah parallelogram in Chat says, I'd like to see you try in scrapyard wars with the RAM crisis Yeah, it suck. TDR four, baby. And it is the DFR, but it still sucks. Um, I mean, actually those prices have fifty Yeah. fifty bucks is fine. What the heck? If I can get a sixteen g Th prices have come way down. If I can get a sixteen gig kit For fifty Canadian rubles. No, that is not fast DDR four Not my, you know, favorite thing, but here's a crazy idea Learn to overclock your memory. Take a time of hardship and learn something new. scrapyard wore it. That did kind of look like DDR three, someone point it out in flull pointint ch, but there is also a lot of heat sinks DDR four across generations. Soays four right on it. Yeah. I think they had veryery similar heat spreaders on three. Like those rip jaws on the top left, I like I swear they had DDR three kits that looked exactly same. or very close to. I mean, we can double check. your ri jaws is ballistics U no, this is to year for. Lead free Y But yeah, they will very often have heat spreaders that look effectively the same across gs. Yeah. Do doesn't matter Like dude, it's uh Like, yeah, is it is this a great situation M our four used market rAM go down I mean, that's the thing about where it was higher. That's the thing about the secondhand market. is brand new Brand new is going to be based on like hype It's going to be based on marketing. it's going to be based on shiny But the second handand market No product can hide from its true value. And sometimes That means that something's worth a lot And you know, a perfect example of that would be something like thirty nineties still be worththing Theres there's still much money. There There is still market manipulation on the use market, but o too much a smaller degree. Yeah. like if something is still, you know, really useful Be it has twenty four gigs of VRM or whatever You know, yeah But if something's just Act plentiful. And not that in demand Then the used market is unforgiving It will go down because people got to move it It's that simple. right? someone like in NVidia, they have the luxury of going, well, I will allocate my wafers to my super profitable data center hardware and my networking ICs. and I will just simply make less GFce in order to make sure that the price of me Joe Jo GPU Clearance V nine sale. doesn't have that luxury. He's gott to move Inel. What's going on there? That's in Chilawack, baby.y You wantan to go whack some chilies, dude? Yeah, buddy. Hellah. So I um It sucks. and I realize that, you know me being removed from, you know the scrappy I buy things for as cheap as I can and like fix them and stuff like that. It probably comes across grating to some people for me to say this stuff, but it's not like I didn't live this It's not like there weren't periods of stuff being more affordable and less affordable while I was a working SP. And that's a huge part of why I have the knowledge base and the troubleshooting skills made me be able to Bu the media company that I am speaking to you from today I think it's a great opportunity to learn get the most out of, you know, what is out there And DDR four is out there man You know, you got to be you got to be savy though. Don't go and try and buy an three D chip So that's an example of something that's older gen, but still really expensive because the demand's really high because everybody knows the X three D branding. Like, what's horizon see that we can find And I kind of want to see, I kind of want to see what there is on like Ali Express for like pre bundled boards and stuff. ' we're getting to the point where there's got to be some harvestable like mobile stuff. that's like DDR four era at this point. I legitimately am just thinking out loud right now, I have not looked into that. And oh man, this site is insufferable. Like how am I supposed to interact with your website? Oh, I have to see this X here that I didn't even notice No, don't allow. G away. U motherboard Let's see what we got Motherboard CPU DDR four What are we looking at here? Oh gosh. Then how bad are X ninety nine s anyyway, sorry, was that? How bad are these Uh, nothing wrong with those. Do they affect performance at all They don't affect performance except that sodiums typically are not rated as high. Yeah U And so especially for sodMs, you're going to be hard pressed to find something that has really tight timings. So it might be rated for like a good megatrfer per second speed, but your latency is going to suck And so I would avoid those unless you get an outstanding deal on some harvested sodoms or something like that. Eespecially because they have their own cost, right? So like have to offset quite a bit. I can't believe how many options there are for old X ninety nine boards still You know those like remanufactured server chs that one wonder why Well, I think they used for mining a bunch or something? No, there were So bloody many of those chip sets to be harvested from data centers that are throwing them all away and the same for the chips Like here's a board. What is this? A board, a CPU, and sixteen gigs of DDR four RAM for sixty four Canadian rubles. That is a slow CPU now. It has ten cores It is very slow though. But that is a slow CPU and not only are the jigamaherz slow but Um going to be some rough IPCs at this point too. Okay, here we go What are we looking at here? Engineering sample Engineering samples zero ero zero zero product performance refer to the I seven eleven eight hundred H. That's a functional No, that's a functional CPU. No, I just I just It's a two point three gigahertz or two point two gigahertz engineering sample. We won't tell you what it is, It's refer to this thing. Max turbo four point five. Apparently it doesur I mean, yeah, maybe I should I should buy one of these two hundred Kad. So that's one hundred forty one hundred and forty US And that includes your motherboard Your CPU But not your DDR four. You'll have to pick up some DDR four Um But then as we saw, DR four are fifty bucks cad. So we're talking two hundred fifty cad So that's like still less way less than two hundred USD for your CPU motherboard and RAM and that's It's not a great performing CPU, but it's a crumulent CPU. It's a little more modern than these like X ninety nine combos that are just Like you will run into games where Literally they they the CPU doesn't support like instructions you need in order to run the game now. like they're too old. I've been kind of interested in I watched a basically homeless video recently. m where he built a cyberd Oh And I've noticed a couple of different tech creators. in the tech creator space have recently done videos on cyber decks. Yeah, we talked about in writers meeting like a few weeks back. Yeah, it seemed to be like it seems like a mild trend right. Really trendy. And something that caught my eye when he was talking about his cyber deck was this company, which I had never heard of before. ye I've talked about them before and some of their I probably just forgot. I don't know. I don't remember Brand' very well. But some of their products are like Very cool. Pretty Sookem Yeah, this thing's kind of a beast actually. Y Like I was kind of looking into the different various things you could do with this and it's ret pretty impressive. They were either the first or they were among the first to do like a Powerful X eighty six SPC. Yeah. And that was kind of how they made their name. Yeah, it's like Pretty serious business Obviously there's some tradeoffs, but like we have an alpha from twenty eighteen, it looks like Yeah Pretty wild. I found another motherboard. Kind of fun W to find some old epic Ram chips and put them on a H one on C. H twelve D Yeah, I want I want a Chinese remanufactured board for my dual epic server. Sorry, I just I love Li Express.other shopping ships. No. Okay, okay, okay, okay. No just a mother. I wasm gonna like buy that now. This is just a crazy pants motherboard that I was just like that Dang, that's a crazy pants smotherboard. U I was ready to whip the phone out and make a purchase Int gaming NS Motherboard No RAM, no ROM, no OS What is this? Just a block of gray? Yeah, what is this? I no Okay, powered by mobile engineering sample chips Interesting. Oh, here we go, here we go, here we go Where is this? Yeah, so you got a motherboard and a se eight seven thousand eight forty five HX And this uses DDR. Oh no, this has gota be DDR five then What kind of what kind of DDR? Is it? Sorry, I'm just like shopping at this point. Oh this is fun spepecifications. here we go. It's got to be DDR five though. Yeah, I think so. I think they don't want to show any serial numbers or anything U Yeah, AM five. ye All right, well I'll keep looking on my own time and I'll see what I can find for like mo mobile chips adapted old harvested mobile chips on motherboards. It looks like a eleventh genen is kind of where it's at right now for that in terms of what's actually affordable Um, seem seem seems like could be not a bad thing All right. Whats forgot to talk about today A this onees do you want a funny one? Yeah Three YouTube channels, H three three Productions, Mr. Short Game Golf, and Golf Holocks. sued Apple back in April, alleging that they deliberately circumvented YouTube's protections against video scraping to train their AI models and that Apple profited substantially, quotequote By doing so, The same trio have also filed parallel suits against Meta, Nvidia, Bite Dance and Snap Here's some background context. Apple seems like a strange company to sue given their lack of public frontier video models. Back in december twenty twenty four, fourteen Apple employees co authored a research paper called STIV Scalable Text and Image Condndition Video Generation, which is a text slash image to video generative model. The paper references its training data and one of the data sets listed is Panda seventy M Panda seventy M was originally compiled by SNnP and built around is built from around three point eight million YouTube videos chopped into about seventy point seven million clips The the datas set does not contain the actual video files. It's just a list of links to YouTube content. So to actually train on it, somebody has to go to YouTube and download every referennce video of themselves Downloading step is what the YouTubers are arguing required circumventing YouTube's anti scraping protections This week Apple has responded with a motion to dismiss arguing that the videos were free for anyone to watch with no login or paywall So whatever download blocking YouTube has doesn't legally count as an access lock And the DMCA claim only works if there was a lock on access in the first place Full legal document quote from Mac Rumors for reference here. Plaintiffs allege that they posted audio visual works to YouTube and that any member of the public can see them there. No password, no payment, no lock, no key Allegedly YouTube employs technological measures to prevent unauthorized downloading, but because YouTube provides public access to the videos, the alleged technological measures do not control access to the works. as Sction twelve hundred one A requires This Is Fascinating Using the Atlantic tool to check Panda seventy M, LTT has four thousand seven hundred and one videos listed there Basically People is arguing that surely they cannot possibly have violated my copyright on those videos, which I Definitely own Because those videos were posted on YouTube If Apple wins this, If Apple wins this, Do you remember when Apple demanded that old ad collateral of theirs was taken down Do you remember this? Someone archived old Apple like keynotes and product imagery? Iteems like it was publicly shared to me. Seems like it was publicly accessible to me with no locky Apple's website publicly accessible with no lock and key. Does Apple really wna win this I feel like that would be insane if they do This would completely Gcrap likeike copyright as it currently exists. And there might be some people who are going to root for that I don't think Apple is one of them. Yeah. So basically you're saying that if I have a downloader that can, you know, get it And, you know, it was Publicly whereere's the line on p even the downloader. They're just accepting the fact that they circumv circumvigated the download limit Limitations. Yeah. They're just being okay with that This is Wild What an argument They're not even they're not even pretending that they didn't just Take it Very interesting Very interesting. Discussion question. You you both lived throughst through the Napster era. Is this the Napster moment for AI where the lawsuits don't really fix anything? it ends up with someone building a licensing pipe? I mean, I feel like something like that will happen What does that look like though? I mean, I tried to raise that back at Creator Summit where I was basically just like, okay, so, you know Ultimately, if Google uses like builds a licensing agreement for other companies to access YouTube videos, what does my compensation look like for that? And I couldn't get a clear answer out of anybody because what I suspect is that They would just kind of go they want to pocket it for sure. I think we'll just keep that. Kind of like how YouTube avoids engaging in a deeper conversation with me every time I ask about what happens to the money from the ad sense on non partner program videos because it used to be they just didn't have ads on them Well, now they have ads And YouTube just, I guess, takes one hundred percent of it ' they don't have to share with anybody. there's rampant perverse incentives when it comes to that. I saw I was shared a video recently Um It remember the details There's like this weird robot arm that scans over this lady's Aual real arm thing. Yeah And it like Looks like it's putting a tattoo on her arm with a laser or something. And it's like just very obviously AI. But the reason why it was shared to me was it was someone that I know, but they had watched the Wanh segment where we were complaining about how YouTube is going down a bad path practically all of the comments and with tons of up votes We're like, is this what YouTube has become Look at the fall of YouTube Um, Wow, it seems like there's a lot of room for competition now that YouTube is like going to whatever else. And it was just like, whoa I haven't seen comomments like that on YouTube Ever Like the entire comment section wasn't going, oh gross, this video is AI. They were going, oh gross, YouTube has no mechanisms for solving this Look there's no dislike button. so you can't flag to other users that it is very easily Comments are super easy to bot It's just It's brutal, man. They gotta figure this out They gott to figure the shorts thing out because the other thing with shorts is They're so short lived, usually. Yeah. They'll blow up and then disappear And if you're trying to spread some misinformation whatever else, that's fine. Yeah But if you find short again after you've seen it once is like Who knows So just for fun, Let's play a little game. I'm playing this on the WNh I'm recording it. I am profiting from it right now. To me, it seems like it's freely shared with no lock or key. Yep. so therefore There was nothing for me to Circumvent Therefore, I am well within my rights to have this and profit from it and benefit from it in whatever way I see fit Right seemeems like it Based on their argument, right iffs alleged that they posted audio visual works to YouTube. Y, and that any member of the public As many see them there with no password, no payment, no lock, no key Allegedly YouTube employoys technological measures to prevent unauthorized downloading. Well, clearly I'm able to clearly I'm able to get around this by recording my screen while I watch the video. So ye that just seems like if Apple didn't want anybody to have this, then they probably shouldn't have posted on YouTube. That seems that seems Is there anything inconsistent Between my argument and Apple's argument here? No, they specify at the end, but because YouTube provides public access to the videos as they are with this one, alleged technological measures do not control access to the works, so we're good to use it basased on Apple's claim. Wow And to be clear There's a lot of people Wh I agree with Apple's response to H three, Mr. Short game and goolf Hols I just don't think Apple really agrees with Apple and it will be fascinating to watch them bend themselves into a pretzel trying to reconcile this stance with their previous stances, how much you want to bet that I get a copyright strike on this video from Apple. Oh yeah almost guaranteed They do that normally, right? They're like Nintendo I it was Nintendo I would be sure Hard to say. Apple I'm not one hundred percent. I do know that the person who archived all the old Apple marketing collateral was No longer hosts it. That's publicly available information Interesting Berry All right, we're go next? And I often get accused of being like an apple hater What I hate is hypocrisy. Yeah. That's what I hate I don't hate Apple. I use their products. love some of their products But I hate hypocrisy. If you're going to You know, if you're if you're going to be that guy, that's like Strict by the numbers IP law copyright Be that guy. Be Nintendo. To Nintendo's credit, they don't steal other people's IP They are internally consistent, which at the very least I can I don't have to like. can But I have to respect. That's your stance. that's your position. You're treating others as you wish to be treated. That's the golden rule. I respect that. at the very least. I often don't like it the way Nintendo does things But you can't have it both ways. 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We'll give it a minute to propagate They're not. Aed Okay, well, It It'll post in a second, I'm pretty sure. Also, o, no way. We got the Ohcut motion simulator. Holy crap Okay, this one's a banger. This thing is so cool I got to try it And what did you think? Banger Please refresh the page. What what the crap Oh, I'm wondering if you're like rate limiting things Oh I don't know if they both just posted. Yeah I don't know if people normally like spam release videos. Okay. I things here. Dude Dude, this thing, this thing's crazy It looks crazy. It does ninety degrees on every major axis. So it can do forty five Fty five. Oh forty five, forty five Then what are the other ones? forty five, forty Oh no, it goes all the way around this That makes sense. string. And and they set it up with they set up like like a rock crawler S. Check this out. So see the car behind me. I'm driving this car H And it's responding in real time. Dude, it's so freaking cool Dad Man, if you could wire this into Snow Runner, that would actually unironically be so much fun. Dude, it was it was one of the most cut. It was one of the most fun things that I've done in like I don't know ages. like the most fun I had driving like a S rig Is it comfortable? What are you talking about? That's like asking how much fuel economy the the Ferrari has. It's not the point. Yeah Hardly the point. I wantan to figure out if you can make this work with Snow Runner. And sn Runner has like You know, output for force feedback, sometimes they work And then this one's great. We got our hands on the first thousandousand Htz gaming monitor. and built a thousand FPS gaming PC in partnership with Slave And this is probably So you use the chiller paired with Slave It's a great video. Well Well We have fun here. Oh, that's awesome amazing. Anyway, we've got early access over on Floatplane for those three videos. and we launched our second batch of badges Hey, I clicked the link Cool, fllople sub badges Whoa, you can get a vessel badge? Yeah, I don't know, No way, Yeah. Yes, you can What? they don't exist anymore. Yeah, they don't exist anymore. What are they out are they? Fine. Alpha. Alpha plus What am I looking at? He's never gonna be rid of this helmet Oh my goodness. Okay. well, these are these are great loveove the tech house badge Um Nice Anyho, we have new badges. Not only are we celebrating the tears of flloat planane subub, but people who are active during our special weeks, like Luke Wek, Dan week or Yvonne week. This is alongside Our early release for our flagship series, Crapyard Wars andecretopper, Th these videos are available early only on LMG. gG slash FP when. All right, there you go, Samy. we did the float plane announce. this oh cut thing is you can't buy it. Is that a one off? It's it's a several off al off So they made like five of them or something. They made some. Yeah. And you can experience them in certain places at certain times. Are you allowed to keep that one It's gone already I tried theres last year at open suce They might be at open source again, you're going, right? Yeah, that'd be cool. They were creators only. It was a racing track. You had to set a laptop. Oh, I remember people doing that. Yeah ye. They are just like super cool guys, though.s They're all so wicked, man. And they're getting shippping back to Canada No accurately working with Snow Runner You could do it. You pair that with like some big screen beyond. Oh yeah Oh yeah, he got I don't know if I'd need another game. Like we're going to get you into Sim. Sim racing. God man. This is the racing is it's not it's not No, no, same thing. Sim Sim car stuff. It's not the same. Like I just drive Jazzing What I saw was him driving a, you know rock somem sure over a bunch of rocks and stuff. in Snow Runner, I'm going to be like sideways Basically dude. Okaykay. okay. this guy broke One of the things I love about paintball is that the consequences are real. Yeah, there you actually want to avoid being hit Yeah. because like Laser tag Waterground fight. Everyone just like runs around and like you go you go stand right next to something and paintball, you do not walk up to somebody because it fricin hurts to get hit. And I'm talking like actual paintball with the like Proper caliber balls Paintball, caliber. stop Size a sixty sixty eight cl sixty k off they the local fields, they play at like stupid fifty kal now and it's just like Ugh Let me throw ping pong balls at you. Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't hurt The point of paintball is that it fricaking hurts. I want bruising And it so so that incentivizes fun. That incentivizes the right behaviors. because it's not It's not fun to play a game where your opponent doesn't have any consequences for you beating them You know, So anyway, hold on where I'm where I'm going with this Or like taking a risk You rob someone of the exhilaration of taking that risk if there is no consequence to the risk. Correct. Exactly So driving the Ashcut motion sim. Crashing sucks. Oh yeah, I bet. And that's actually what I enjoyed about it more than anything else is when I like tipped my rock crawler, I'm like it's unpleasant. Like I want I want a situation where my truck is tipping in Snow Runner and do I don't know what it's actually called, but I do something called Ninja Rping which is like while you're falling, you can send out your winch grab a tree and it grabs the tree. And then the whole thing is like, boom Because like all the weight of this truck just got caught by it grabbing a tree or whatever. And I'm stuck in this spot and I got to figure out like how the heck do I get out of here? Like that sounds So fun. All the like amness of off roading, but without the insane cost and risk and everything else Well, the neat thing about Oshcut is like it's all made by Oshcut. So you could get the plans and have them cut it for you. I mean, the clear path steppers are going to be gosh darn expensive, but You know, it was built by their service. Theoretically they could make you one. Yeah. Yeah that makes I'm sure they would. If you asked nicely. These guys look awesome. I've just been scrolling through their website Yeah, they do like like everything super Quick turnaround time metal fab Yeah basically. You send them the files, they I think it's like an instant quote thing. There's a couple of these. They have some competitors around too, They mostly just do sheet metal and some bending and stuff Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's pretty sick Yeah was That was a fun video. It was nice of them to come up here and let us play with their big boy toys Balster said one problem with that, it would require Luke spending money. It would require me spending A a lot of money. One of the clear path steppers would probably Uh make you very unhappy. Yeah It was like multiple thousands of dollars per acxis. P axis, ye. Yeah Yeah. I was surprised. Huge And really powerful and really accurate. That's so cool. I love. And the thing is you want it to be really powerful because you want that thing to not just to move you It want to able to rip you around a little bit. likeike they need to findind control, becausecause you want to you want to feel the jiggles Yeahep, you want to rocks wr. That was good. Here's a quick one. Usernames are coming to WhatsApp soon So you don't have to share your phone number Just a handle. that like seemeems like it should have been a thing ten years ago, but hey, it's there now R It makes me so much more interested in WhatsApp? My goodness U Right now there's a bit of a race to grab usernames. Oh o no How do we do it? H Well, obviously mine wasn't going be available Cool Linus sex. B you Where did you find it? Where is that? Okay.m I'm going with a classic Mus is your name. No, it just had a banner for me when I opened up the app. I didn't have. It just like I found one. I found the way. Morning, morning, reserve your thing That's why I kept my six digit ICQ nice. Tall Ey in float plane chat Nice. context menu asked, isn't this going to get everyone adding you on WhatsApp line is Yeah, if I was A big enough dumb dumb to share personal information yet again. then it would be obviously I did not register as well as sex tips Well, the reason why I think someone might have asked about that is that is a decently common name in video games. Oh, I know it is. That's why I said. I have played with people with that username. I don't know it's me. I have never used that username. So if you've ever played with someone calling themselves Linus sex tips, it was not me Yeah. That's his Rocket Leake Smurf account. Don't ban Anyway, just wanted to give you guys a heads up on that. There's not really like anything newsworthy particularly about it, but if you want to go claim your username now is probably as good a time as any. AMD FSR four point one benchmarks reveal frame rate regression on RD andA three graphics cards But AMD has officially brought FSR four point one to RDNA three, so that's radoon RX seven thousand by adapting the AI op scaler from its original FB eight and implementation to an I eight model The update is delivered through the radion driver and automatically replaces supported FSR three point one implementations without requiring manual game modifications Performance reviews consistently mentions substantially improved image quality with much sharper output, better temporal stability, and significantly reduced blur, ghosting, shimmering and flickering In many cases, FSR four point one balanced was judged to look better than FSR three point one quality However, the trade off is that RDNA three incurs a larger performance hit, so frame rate gains are smaller then with both FSR three point one and with FSR four point one on our GNA four While the testing found that FSR four point one on our DNA three frame rates are typically lower than with FSR three point one, they remain well above native rendering in most cases. So you're not taking so much of a hit that it's not even worth enabling at all Speaking of which, based on AMD's current roadmap, RDNA two is expected to receive FSR four point one support in early twenty twenty seven. Our discussion question asks, arere you excited to see FSR four point one on Steam Machine How much will that change the machine's value proposition? I would say, honestly Um The probleblem for the steam machine is not that it doesn't have enough upscaling. I think it's just that it doesn't have enough raw in order to upscale from That's a good way of pronouncing that. Well that's how that's how that's how the word is coned. no I'm yeah It's funny because before you said it, I was gonna to say Hutzpa And then he did that and I was like, yeah. ye. There's only one more topic. Do we send it? Virus four hundred sixty four says didnn't listen to that at all was securing my WhatsApp handle All right, I'll give you guys a minute. think I think I ripped my handle out of someone's hands Really? Yeah, it's a handle not available, but if you have it on Instagram already, you can take it and I was like, I do. Fickin gotem. Yk and it gave it to me Nice, Sllers. Right. Intel's next gen Nova Lak could be interesting. A new leak from LlC Tech Leaks backed by known Intel leaker Jake Kin claims Intel's top and Novvelake S desk topship could feature fififty two cores. and pull up to four hundred and seventy four watts PL two power. So that's the short term boost limit that a CPU can hit while turboing not what it draws at idler during light use. This four hundred and seventy four watt figure applies to the flagship dual tile model at stock And drawing more than that would be into overclocking territory, but probably possible For reference, Intel's flagship desktop chips have sat around two hundred and fifty watts since tenth genen Comet Lake The leak also points to high end LGA nineteen hundred fifty four motherboards, likely the Z nine hundred ninety series, featuring three EPS eight pin CPU power connectors instead of two or one Whoa probablyably won't be necessary. A single EPS eight pin is rated for around two hundred and thirty five watts. So two of them already gives you four hundred and seventy watts plus another seventy five or so from the socket Um But if you were going to do any overclocking then I could see needing another. Allegedly it makes no difference to stock performance though okay, so that makes sense Worth noting that the board photo that circulated with the leak actually showed two EPS connectors plus a PCIE eight pin not three dedicated CPU connectors. That would actually be a pretty smart way to do this because That PCIE connector can still do a lot of twelve volt power, and you're more likely to have more PCIE connectors already included with your modular power supply, even though many modular power supplies use the same Um, the same outputs for both PCIE and EPS. So you could like get more modular cables, but it'd be nice if they just built it with something that I'm already likely to have the cables for Nova Lake is rumored to require the new LGA nineteen fifty four socket and nine hundred series chip sets, meaning that no upgrade path will be available from the current LGA eighteen fifty one Intel is not officially confirmed Any of this? Discussion question Every generation flagship CPUs and GPU's are creeping higher on power draps Are we hitting the point where a high end PC is not reasonable to run in a normal room have noticed The room where Emma and I have moved our computers toh. Cook Unless there's's getting getting hot in here. You know, you don't have to talk about that online show if you don't want to but you can U if, you know, if we don't know a window open or AC running or something, it u It gets hot in there Yeah with the computers running. L it actually just really does. It really does Some chicken timeive Ticket and machine learning training. Yeah. yeah, yeah. So hardot Um Oh, I was going somewhere with this. Nope, forget it, whatever. This is the new channel, the Land S show. Make sure you subscribe if you haven't already. How many how bad was it? Yeah, it was pretty bad this week. Yeah, it's quite a bit lower than usual. Yeah. So It was nice having a popular It's five cs I remember the days when people used to watch the WN showh. but we had to do this. It had to be done. Luke and I are fifty fifty owners of the Wan showow and so it has to be broadcast on different different. what's left? Yeah. Why did you bother show Ten years of just down the drain. The way And ye Okay Hmm Um, I don't know, man, do we need to just do a dedicated video over on LTT? It'll get like no views because There's no there's no floor anymore. Like if it's not Like just announcing a thing YouTube just won't serve it. don't really I don't really know how to I don't really know how to deal with this. Should it be a combine update? Oh that talking to the audience. Like a state of the Union Yeah I'm kind of overdue Maybe. Maybe it'd be nice to do one when there isn't like a scandal to respond to for a change. Yeah I could I could do a scandal No, because then they would get more views. Oh my God. No let's come up dude, my scandals are so lame. I bet we could come up with a better scandal Hey, what could we do Okay I mean, we've already like find some way that it's you that is price fixing all the RAM. Oh, interesting. That's not a bad like April Fool's joke, but I don't see that as like believable Hey That's what you would say. Yeah. that's what someone who didn't tell you about honey would say I still haven't forgiven you for that Okay, so for the people watching right now who saw one version of a narrative, yeah, that's not what happened. You should just bring that up again. I should apologize again for it. Oh, that's not bad. Coll with Cee Zilla. Apologizing for all of my previous controversies. You know what? forty hour apology videos before Nobody has done a mega apology mega apology. Nole ever apologize this hard. Larn the ukule you find like all the ways that people around the world apologize and you try to do it like I still I still have the Billet Labs monob blog I keep no I keep it in my office Apology ouction. I was having fun for a little bit. I'm done now. Shall we do Wan after Dirk? H swar. Before there's blood spilled on my carpet. I'm gone, dude. It's over Don't worry about nobody's watching anyway. The vods could be even worse. Yeah, probably. Oh man All right, know you know the word didn't get up for man, I shouldn't make this joke, but whatever, noobbody's watching. You know There' so many people watching. You know you know the channel move didn't do very well when the butudon pal video did better than the last Wed show. Oh my God That's not good. That's not supposed to work. You know, maybe the show would be more fun if nobody watched it. We could just say whatever. They're already not watching it. Exactly. Yeah, you're fine. Oh man Announce it on button Pal. Yeah, there we go.. So what's your opinion on Oh no, I just I leleaped it. Okay, After dark? Yeah, sure let's do it.. Uit that button. How do you know how many live we had on this channel last week more than that Oh on this channel, Oh good idea. Okay. I think combined it was just a little better than this No like Not combined, specifically just the Wano YT channel. Oh, aboutb twice as good as last week. Okay, so it is and it's been steadily climbing like the entire show. Okay. Yeah are peopleeople are finding it. Okay. It's working. Like not many. It doesn't help when I put the wrong link in the community. feel loyalty that Thank you down. You're welcome. To be fair on Linus, they changed it to something else because I did the same thing and then they changed it to some Ididentity number and then it broke Um Very weird. So who's It auto formatted it when I entered it. And I assumed that was right and then I didn't check it because I was busy hosting. And then I auto formatted it and then it did the same thing. Okay. So to give you some idea of how much YouTube buries stuff is that people are not engaging with, like Hey, here's another place you could find me. This has fourteen comments een So by comparison, our just like stupid troll statement about how we're All our view videos will be deleted and you can find them at the VHS section on LtTstore. com U That has nine hundred from yesterday. So like YouTube has made it so you can't. There's no mobility There's no portability. Yeah Man sorry, Mca Mecca tortoise in full blind chat U said Linus socks and scandals Sebastian. Socks and scandals. I thought that was pretty good. Good Lake Gandal sandals What would scandal sandals be? I was thinking like a sale in LTT store when the stocks launch where it's like if you buy the socks and a product that had a scandal Then you get a discount funny. Oh, hey, I shot the not worth. I shot the announcement video today For socks, for socks. I think I exited for feet playing the foot stream. No, we're not doing that. You don't get to Have you seen the finished product yet? No, Should I go get it? Yeah, I would love to. All right, if there's any coms so you can hit Luke with them while I'm coming back. Sure, me sureure. I'm not sure. I have any Luke specific one They're r noone's watching A get both friend. The viewership's going up every minute. fififty times zero, so much more. On the physical games discussion, would you guys be open to buying proprietary USB readers for cartridges. USB reader cartridge for PC games made by valve, like a switch cart but for PC So like U USB cartridge So a cartridge No, Yeahah, sure. proroprietary USB readers. so it would be like cartridge Okay you can cut the cartridge reader out of the top of a switch too and then glue it to a USBC cable. Okay, so I'm buying a device. You're buying a proprietary cartridge reader And the cartridges are sold by Valve. I mean, a very long time ago, Wan show at the Langley House on the couch. I remember talking about this idea that I had that optical drives could turn into like authentication bays for consoles so you could play console exclusive games on PC. I put the disc in. Yeah. So this idea sounds a lot like that they're saying basically could would you buy a proprietary thing USB reader thing that can authenticate games on PC so you could have physical versions of it. L like a UBi key type of thing but it's got your game license on it. I wouldn't, but someone would. I think it'd be cool I think someone would, for sure. Fe like a CD drive, that's what you could call it. If it genuinely gave you a content content designator. I can Yeah yeah, kind of. If it genuinely gave you like offline access digital video game device Yeah, ye. Yeah U, if it had like some kind of cool right to your data benefit like that. then I could I could be interested in that A are you hiding them 'causeuse you haven't seen them yet. Yeah, It's a big reveal. They haven't seen them yet. This is final packaging on everything. Okay, finalack. I was gonna say, I'm pretty sure they have seen them. Oh there these two killers. Obviously the black and gray, but like the I'm telling you guys this a little early Here they are. I like the colors. We've got the branding nailed down They're going to be called the Forever Sock. The branding actually Asterisk. Yeah, it actually comes from it was right after Thunderboltss Asterisk launched. and I was like We were like, how should we bnd these? becausecause we're giving them the limited lifetim warranty? U But obviously nothing actually lasts forever. And I was like, well, I don't know, if Marvel can do it on a film, I think we can do it on a sack So we did yeah, forever Asterisk sock, copper infused, full crew. I think that's a great name Right on it. not actually going to last forever But u I think it's a great name. I think I said this last time too. I really like what's been going on with naming I think True spec is a fantastic nameame. I think forever sock is a fantastic name. The big selling points are going to be just the all day comfort here. I'll let you u I'll let you unbox one which one's your favorite color? You like you said you like the purple? I like the purple. I'd probably get the black and gray ones but I like the purple a lot Okay, that's a whole conversation. That's like a thing in fashion You have the one that looks poppy on the website and then you have the one everyone buys. Yeahep ye, this one yellow Mac attracts me to clicking on the thing. Yeah. and then I'd probably buy the b. Yeah. So the big selling points and we'll go through this in more detail sometime whenever when people are actually watching in the future. But it's the all day comfort. So we've got so much cushion on the bottom that some of our internal wear testers reported that even though they normally wear slippers, they just like didn't anymore. Whoa, yeah. But obviously, you don't want a sock that's that thick everywhere U So we have like a looser knit on the top so you get like vents U So the breathability is really nice. Wow, the difference between the bottom and the top is Quite substantial. Well, yeah the natural merino fibers in there contribute to This is a funny one because we did quantitatively test it. And we found that the actual drying time of them, especially the thicker parts is like not that competitive But I've worn them and my feet have gotten wet and they don't feel that bad. So Even though we don't have a way of testing that the like the wear feeling wicking is It feeles really good. Does Merino just wick pretty well in general? It's wool. It's like, yeah. So even though it doesn't like dry dry because it's like a really dense weave in order to get that really soft cushion. Yeah it it it wears really well. So we're not one hundred percent sure How to market that U ye, like Rod is in floatple Chinese. like, yeah, wool's amazing even when it's wet. And so yeah, so we can't say That it's like it's not like like a high performance sp a quick drying sport fabric or anything like that. It's a wool. like it gets saturated with water. frreaking is wet but it still wicks U And so that's really important. And then the big one the one that inspired the like the color of the forever branding on it is the copper infusion. and that's a big part of what makes them We're not announcing pricing today, but they are A you are you not going you cheap? So true spec cabling this. In what sense You kept warning everyone about the cost of tr spepectables, and you said the cost, everyone was like, o. For what these are, I think they're extremely fairly priced But for what they of socks though, like you want to if you want a little bit of shock factor, just look up how much like I don't know, Darnuff's cost with a limited lifetime warranty and with the copper infusion. So what's really cool about the copper infusion treatment is that this isn't some like Some like forever chemicals cocktail that they spray on it and then it comes off in a couple of washes and is all of a sudden in the, you know water Is it somehow like in the fabric? So Patiana is actually writing and hosting the section of the video that is focused on the copper infusion, but basically there's like Uper ions that are not just on the surface, but embedded deep within the fibers. that are non compatible with fun fungus and u and bacteria. fungi and bacteria. So they like they they can't live on it. They just die And we did third party lab testing to validate I think over ninety nine percent of fungi and bacteria in contact with the sock. And obviously we didn't test every bacterium on Earth and every fungus on Earth But the like the sample ones, over ninety nine percent of them died Maybe of. And we got a competing like copper infused garment just to kind of figure out like, okay, like where are we at on this? Like arere we competitive? And what we found out was that it didn't have any copper in it at all. It was just a lie. So we didn't have time to like test another one yet, but that's something that we can continue to explore We think over ninety nine percent is pretty good then I guess, given that Other people are just outright lying about it and apparently haven't been called on it yet. That's pretty funny. So the copper infusion is huge because when it comes to odor control Bacteria and fungus is like where body odor comes from And so what I have found is that As much as this is not the kind of thing that you would admit to you know, even, you know with nobody watching typically. I can wear these if I'm not doing like a heavy workout. I can wear these for two, three, four days and they like don't smell That is yeah, you probably yeah, you probably wouldn't really admit that too much. but whichich for how much they cost Maybe a key selling point Yeah, honestly. ye. You might Rool socks are really, really brutal U I like them. It's one of the things that I have splurged on a little bit is having some Marina wool socks Um I often do try to wait for sales or whatever, but .ere's the teal I think I think the team nailed the colors. I do really the colors are really nice And they're pretty even though they're like bold ish, they're pretty wearable. which is nice. Yeah. That's a wearable Yeah. purple. It's not Ultra vibrant. It's more, is that the right term for it? Maybe not me vibrant. Yeah, that's more what I'm trying to say. It's obviously blue, but it's not like striking here. This is this is an earlier ID. This is from like years ago. Yeah. This would have been a little tougher to wear, even though it's a more black Sock Um Cors are more varied, like compared to that black sock, I think the blacks and the grays are more similar to each other. And you have that orange strip. Yeah So this is this is just like a very yes, I can I can wear this with my, you know, school uniform. Alsoice the coloring is in your shoe. Yeah Exactly. So we tried to not from we did so many different designs and samples whole process has been a nightmare, but this is a lot of Fabric with's a lot of sock in it. Yeah ye. They I've been wearing them all s. Do you want four times the sock in your sock? Well, here's a sock for you. I want it to cost four times as much or more. They're not going to be cheap. I want to warn people ahead of time. These are not cheap socks. Marina wool products in general are kind of Uh not for the weak of stomach I remember, I think we launched like a shirt or some underwear or something or both Yeah. We've done it peopleeople were like what Men People also just looked up how much that stuff costs and they were like, o, okay Pretty much yeah U But you know what? It's like it's like a Sam Vimes boots economic theory thing U I actually tell the story of like how they do last a long freaking time. How this product came to be in in the mainline video. And a big part of know why we bothered was that the socks that I used to buy got skimflationed And all of a sudden, I found myself going, okay, well, like if I'm going to pay way more for my socks I'd rather paying way more for nicer socks that last longer than paying way more to keep rebuying the same crappy socks. Yeah. And so if that's going to happen then okay, fine, I'm going to go look for premium socks then. And what I discovered was that yeah It totally works If you can buy the better thing upfront It lasts so much longer that you actually end up spending less. So that's where I kind of went, okay, yeah, we could We could well we would do a premium sock then, something that Total cost of ownership, you know, you come back to like like tech to tech concepts, right? Well what's the TCO of this sock And I think it's not going to be that unreasonable Anyway I'm sure we'll have some more details for you guys whenever we actually launch them. but sure the CW team is gonna be upset with me, but stay tuned guys Before COVID when I started boxing, a lot of the like lateral movement and dashing stuff we were doing, really started wrecking shoes and socks very rapidly. and that's when I jumped the Marino Wool fence. Yeah and I bit the bullet and bought a bunch of icebreakers and I have rebought but never because and even became unwearable because I like lost socks. It sounds crazy Right? to wear wool socks for boxing. Yeah It's not. It's not actually. I I vastly prefer my LT socks for Badminton compared to just about anything else. onene of the challenges that we ran into with a lot of the samples was getting the slip right So you don't want it to be like sandpaper. your on your shoe because then your foot's going to move around in the sock But you also don't want the sock to slip freely On the insole. Because then you're going to get friction. Yeah It's got to there's got to be the right amount of distance. Yeah. A both Getting it right. sucks. It's a lot of work. Yeah. Its very expensive though I know a dec amount of people that have like a hair And then they have normal socks outside of that and then they'll wear it for like certain occasions, a hike or something like that. Yep I I only have two of these in my rotation right now because I haven't gotten any of the final samples. I only have pre production samples. Th Actually I think they need them for beer roll for the video, but I u I like save them for days when like I know I'm playing Baddy tonight or like when I when I when I know I need them Is there a golf set that includes three socks in case you get a hole in one What? nice Wait for it Wait for it Nice That took me way too long. Oh yeah All right, well let's do a couple more bbs and then let's get him let's get him home into bed. That's pretty Good Lord. Have you gotten in trouble for driving the fire truck? No, surprisingly. I dily drove right? Yeah, I daily drove it for a week and then I drove it like for a couple more days after. and other than people It was like it was like hiding in plain sight. It's like it's like wearing a high vis high viz like vest at like Because of how visible you are, you become invisible. Exactly. No one pays attention to a fire truck unless its sirens are on. You're just a truck going down the road. If anything, you are less notable. Yeah. But but on the other hand, people like get out of your way. like it's It's actually A horrible, horrible vehicle to drive It's like, you know, a nineties fire truck like yeah, it's terrible. You know, compared to my Taikan, obviously off the line it's not You know The lines, this lineess still in front of us, boys, come on, harder on the pedal. hereere we go. You know, it's not great, but in terms of like how much room people give you on the road Unparalleled Amazing. Oh, on the subject of parallel, sucks to park Actually nightmare Have you had to parallel park it like between ars No, I would just, so like at the office, I would just drive way down the road until there's nobody And then I would barely be able to parallelparket at all. the visibility and it's terrible. Oh yeah. Yeah It's really fun though I'm sure people would be a lot more respectful than if you were like a forty foot container type truck. Oh o and I'm sure you could also just like park it on this like curb. You just curb it away with go on the grass and just be like, Yeah, no one's gonna care. He was pretty good. You take around lotots U was it once or twice I don't remember, but you drove me around at least once. and I was pretty impressed at some of the moves. It was good. have to turn the wheel so. Oh yeah. ye. It like a workout. It looked like a bit of a workout. Yeah Terrif We made it, though Next Hi LLD. I have a second gaming PC in the living room so off Can I run HexOS or True NAS with Windows or SteamOS virtual machine so my GPU accelerated NAS can still be a game machine And can you do an updated vid of the use game PC net Okay, that one got cut off. Okay, I think I see where you're going with this. I wouldn't So what because of anti cheat in most cases running your gaming operating system as a VM is not really as much of a thing anymore. I haven't tried it with SteamOS admittedly, but even then, you're going to need to pass through a GPU to it If you want like near bare metal performance and you're running a consumer card So if you were hoping for your GPU to still continue to accelerate Naz things like plex transcoding you got to kind of pick one or the other or install another GPU. And at that point What are we even talking about here? I think you just have that continue to be a NAS. and then if I was you, I would probably be looking into how to stream from your main PC over to the living room using something like Monlight That would be in my opinion, the more practical solution to making your main PC accessible in multiple places and then just keeping your NAS your NAS LLD I force my wife to listen to the WN S showow each Saturday during our weekend errands That said, I work for Ma in their data center turnup What do you think of the Noc clloud spend on compute? Data center turn up I'm not sure what a turn up is. I learned that Neo Cloud is like GPU compute centers Yeah, I've never heard that term before Okay What do I think? I mean, I think I feel like I talked about this enough earlier on the show where I kind of went, I think it's out of control. It feels very bubbly how much we're spending on all of this stuff collectively as a species Um You know, would I would love to see us take a more measured approach to the buildout that involves less land grabbing all of the available silicon and more figuring out what are the constructive ways that we can use this technology. I'm not anti AI and I'm not anti data centers. But what I am is anti consuming all the things with no semblance of a concept of a plan And that's really what a lot of it feels like. Yeah Um, I'm anti the fact that like all of its knowledge was effectively pirated. Um But it already happened includluding what four thousand of LTTs videos? Yeah You're welcome, I guess. Yeah. yeah But like it's It's already out there. I think I think the fact that mrter Mister Dario seems to be publicly scared of locally ran open source models. Nice is like Yeah, Ged based getid owned U and they're already out there, you So what are you going to do now? Yeah Yeah. Yeah. But was it that was crying? Was this this week or last week about about their poor AI models getting getting scraped by Chinese copycats Is that anthropic? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. How was that in the dock? Freaking So funny. Freaking hilarious. Everything you have, everythingthing you have was scraped. Freaking hilarious. I don't feel bad for you at all, bro. Dude So so yeah so they were Yeah. okay, this was this was the whole thing. So they they caught they caught Chinese AI companies because you can kind of reverse ish engineer ish an AI model by asking it enough stuff and then just like taking the outputs of it. and then you can use that to kind of develop your own model weaiting, right? And so what they were discovering was that Chinese competitors were sending across like many, many bought accounts, like hundreds of thousands of requests in order to fine tune their own competing products And so they were Begging with the U.S. government. Yeah, it was anthropics says Tim in the floatple check. So they're begging the US goverment, Oh, you have to stop these guys. You have to stop them from doing this. This is our this is our intellectual property. you takeake the fucking L. But they also seem to be going after Thet your cheery els They also seem to be going after locally hosted models U so good saying that it's super dangerous because they can't police like the people and monitor what they're doing with it in an attempt as far as I can tell to stop outside competition from doing the same thing they did of stealing all the data to bad also make it so that people would have to subscribe and use monthly payment versions and not be able to host things locally. Listen, if my it's already out there boy. If my sh is gonna be stolen, then everyone might as well have it Yeah. That's where I'm at. Pandora's box is open. It's opened There's no going back. Weal unsteal all the data. Deal with it. And you don't get to steal everything and then cry foul when somebody steals it. I thought it was all in the name of progress, baby. Yeah Well, this is progress now, Bch And yeah, like I mean, you can you can you can say that you hate that everything was stolen. Yeah, so do we Yeah, but but you quite literally can't unsteal it And you can't unsteal it largely because of everything that got open source, to be completely honest, which I think was part of the reason why some of the big companies started doing that in the first place. Interesting. That's some pretty three D chess. Yeah I had I had that thought quite a while ago of like like why why are they open sourcing this stuff? What possible benefit does it give? Yeah? And I think it gives the benefit of The geniie is out of the bottle, you can't put it back in. we did it for everyone. It's out there. It's not even that we did it for We could get it back. Is that could go retve it again. Anyone could get it back and retrieve it again like that. Yeah. And it's been downloaded by so many people that you can't undo this move It was it was that's now that that has happened, there is no putting yeah, all the stuff is stolen permanently. You can no longer unsteal it Tim says it's really funny. They call it an attack. Yeah Yeah. ye, the distillation attack because you're distilling information from the model, which is amazing because they distilled all of their information from everyone by pirating everything. C wck like a scale. over one hundred fifty thousand exchanges. You pirated way more than that. Yeah shut up Yeah. I have no cares for them at all. Yeah. And it is this interesting thing. I've heard a counter argument that's like, yeah, okay, but now you're just gonna to crush them. So what But some new company that is going to benefit off of their stuff is just gonna to prop up and It's called Shoulders of Giants Bys. Yeah, sounds good. Let's stand on them because I'm sure not reaching a reasonable height on my own. But ye, that doesn't bother me at all. I just I don't care for them in the slightest Last one I got for you Hi, Leingas. cururrently sitting idle becausecause of the forty one degree heat nearly quenched my MRI Did you know that there's a shortage in titanium tools for working on MRI equipment? What caused this? I would have to imagine just like China, US trade stuff, but I blame Ram U Okay. The truck brand though this time. U Thank you, Dan. This is why he's the producer and not the on screen talent. Oh my goodness Oh. A titanium is mined globally. Um Bah, blah, blah. Oh yes, here we go. warar Linus laptop. China T It never not be funny. No one watches the show, it's fine. But yeah, there's some theory of war. Yeah, planes, sure. trarains, automobiles, drones, solid reference. Yeah Who knows swweet reference, you might say Toilet sweet you can probably just Thankks for tuning into the Fed show. We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. By bye. Don't eat toilet sweets. Now you tell me Oh bad