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Welcome to the Wen Show. We have a wonderful show lined up for you guys this week But it does have to start with some bad news Remember some of the trepidation that we had about Xbox's new leadership Well It looks like Thankings for going Pretty good for a bit And then a boom rug pull Back to the bare floor trepidation we had before, thingsings are not looking good over there right now with rumors of potential studio closures or divestments or even spinning off Xbox entirely from Microsoft. There's some good news this week though, Illinois may become the first US state Ban drivers from wearing smart glasses Seems like a smart move. What else we got Uh, the steam workshop was used to spread malware and u Stoped killing games It was ruled against Okay. those are choices The show is brought to you today by Ak Manager Nexus, Cape, Red Tiger and Motion Gray alongside our rap partner D brand and our chair partner Razor and also our laptop partner also Razor. Why don't we jump right into the Microsoft stuff. I wouldn't even normally necessarily be one hundred percent on talking about this I personally feel that rumor mill stuff is best addressed once the rumors go away and the actual stuff happens But there's been a lot going on at Microsoft this week. The information reported on Friday that Microsoft is even weighing options regarding Xbox's future that could include potential spinoff Restructuring it as a wholly owned subsidiary like LinkedIn and GitHub, or as some kind of a joint venture The word on the street is Things are not doing too good right now Ninja theory, compulsion games, Double fine are just a few of the studios that are either closing or rumored to be closed or they could be searching for a buyer Sata Nadeela has approved Ashisharma's plan to focus on successful franchises like Halo, Fallout, and the Elder Scrolls. Now this was not even something that I read online, which Of course, you know is credible when you read something online. This was something that someone internally said that they heard from people and was just chatting with me about. but what I heard from a person Some person is that As far as they know Bethesda If you're not working on followout or elder scrolls You might as well just Forget about like having a job right now. Um, None of this has actually been announced. I don't think there's been any internal memos confirming any kind of massayoffs or anything like that. But I guess what I'm trying to figure out right now, Luke is Kking, why If you're not working on followad or, Eldersc' thing is interesting because I can't imagine there's a huge team working on like continued DLC for Starfield. The why in regards to shutting down studios Um I honestly have no idea. especially if like if they're trying to put No no, no hold on. I want to go back farther than that. Sure Why did they spend all these billions and billions and billions of dollars buying Buying gaming companies that by all accounts were apparently doing well enough that they were worth billions and billions of dollars only to turn around and go Well, what's going on here Why are we investing so many billions of dollars? What's that? Yeahah, this has never made sense to me. And the weirdest thing to me is they're not even the only ones doing it. I don't remember the name of the other company, but there's another company that just keeps buying up gaming studios and shutting them down I don't get the point N never understood the point. I bet you Chat's going to point it out not ten cent no emmbracer group. Yeah Embraceer just what a name. right? Yeah.s What's that meme called? Is that is that the hug meme U It's an AIO overview Nice, solid Embracer Group quietly cancellled twenty nine unannounced games and shut seven studios within six months last year Like this is here's an article from Games Radar. What kind of a business model is that? This is This is my point. It's like what what are you doing? And there's they're super known for Um buying studios. and then and then they just, yeah, they shut down an incredible amount of said stududios that they bought. U, and I just it just understand the point. And it's not just emmbracer and it's not just Microsoft. This is like A thing And you know, I saw some comment. it's already gone, so I can't see it, but it's like, oh it's it's competitive, whatever, whatever. Dude, there is So many games out there and like most of these massive studios are mostly getting destroyed by small I guess some of the studios that are being bought are small studios, but you're not getting wrecked by the like AAA's, which is Mbe where you could consider like Larry Larian. Yeah you're not you're not getting the the I don't know I'm just trying think like, what what Like you think double Fine is going to reduce the sales of Halo? Like I don't understand the competitive advantage of buying double Fine and then shutting it down. And I think they've had Double Fine for a while, so that's not a great example. But like I don't see it in the games industry buying, acquiring these companies and shutting them down as a way to actually make your games look more attractive because there's just So many games. You're not going to accomplish the goal of shutting down enough studios to actually reduce the volume of new games hitting like these various platforms. I mean, in fairness, what has Doublefind done lately? Psychonauts two was a while ago Um Let's have a look. and's it's just an actual legitimate question So here's a few things U They were always a like aw some of the smaller white old U Sots two. Okaykay Is this is this in is this in order What is Kil Is Kil new? Oh yeah, okay. this is this is apparently brand new. How many people are playing kiln right now Double fine is a therap. Mmhm. Okay, mostly positive one hundred and thirty six that's that's not a lot of reviews Uh, how do I how do I am I Oh yeah, I guess I can't uh I guess I can't find it Oh, no, you can just see the one hundred most played H. well, I doubt with a hundred reviews that it's anywhere on here Oh wait Is it I hate it when it does this One of one found it, where Yeah And I can't actually jump to it. doesnesn't actually jump to it and or it's not actually here. I can't I can't tell what I'm what I'm looking at here. The craziest part to me is that it's like I can under probably your search 'Cacauseuse it's in your steam search as well. That makes sense. Yep, there it is. nice But the thing that kills me too is like I I don't even, I don't even I don't I can understand why they might look at the current climate and go Yeah, sorry, why are we even bothering to develop new games at all? Um, Most played games in the top ten. We have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight free to plays And of the paid games, one of them is like a new sort of viral meme game that is Well five dollars. Taskbar Hero, I'm assuming is an idol game, which is why it's showing up under most played. And it's probably I've never even heard of this game before. I'm assuming you get like rare card things And it's just like that banana game that we found mixed reviews. Free to play desktop companion idler. Y. there you go. So like whatever. I don't know if that counts. So basically everyone's just playing couounter strike doa to PubG And five M is GTA five and Bongo cat, another idler Five M is GTA five. Y Um Uh doooo Yikes So it was apparently a hackathon project made by like eight people Oh, okay Online multiplayer brawlerir where teams of colorful spres sculpted ceramic battle arm on a pottery wheel I'm getting someix mixed information on Kilen, but it sounds like there's a fairly small team Um I mean In the context of it has one hundred reviews though, does it probably even matter how small the team was? Yeah, but like I wonder how big the team at Double Fine even is. I don't know I can't I see I see I honestly, I think that's. A man, how do you How do you deal with that? So you've got a relatively small team. in the grand scheme of how big this business is, this business unit is not hitting its targets overall But like it feels like to go after these these relatively small projects when, I mean, realistically, you know one of the biggest failures at Microsoft from a gaming standpoint over the last ten years has got to be halo infinite. L more like halo infinite fail. Like the amount of money that they put into that U It would eclipse Whatever Double Fine is spent making every game that Double Fine has play made probably ever Um And I mean, in fairness, that unit has been also not left intact. I don't know, man. is I think even as recently as last week Last WN show, we were feeling good about the things that Asha Sharma was saying, the things that Xbox was doing. in her defense, I don't even know how much this is. herer idea I It's very clear that Sacha Nadeela is super down with this vision And I suspect this may have been passed down to a certain degree U because he's been fairly vocal about like, yes, do this, please Yeah. And he's also been pretty vocal about that Microsoft has profit margin targets and either we hit them or ' over that. Yeah. But that's a tough one when you're trying to win your way back into people's living rooms. It makes you wonder about what Pitical Game of Thrones level stuff is happening at a company like Microsoft where Phil Spencer's out New CEO with An AI background rather than a gaming background is in A bunch of public statements are made about like, rah, ra, rah, let's go, Microsoft.'re We're going to rejuvenate this business unit And then Immediately after that, the rumors start swirling that they're basically going like Pull the plug on it essentially is what it kind seems like they're doing And then like did she, did she just get Did she just get sacrificed. Was wasas it was? Like, was she not I don't know that. I don't know that. where wasas this in was are they trying to like get rid of her? I actually can't tell 'causeuse how could you possibly hope to execute on the like the vision that they seem to have for the Xbox brand of exclusive content If your first party studios are on the on the auction block Can somebody answer that for me? Yeah 's it's tough because u That's another thing is like I've never heard of Kiln before. so I've been sitting here kind of trying to go down a journey of dodging the AI overview and learning things about it. And it feels like a very Xbox first title Like I know you looked up the steam stats, but there might be more playing it, more people playing it Four in game for Kiln right now? What does that even mean What does that mean Fish lad said four in game for killing Are you like looking for servers or something? It says it's a pottery brawler So is it like a fighting game? Yeah. But apparently I'm finding some mixed information because I found like Okay, it means four people are playing. Yeah, but how do they know that Yeah, but it's not It originally only launched on Xbox. I don't think it originally even launched on Steam. So like the steam information is not necessarily that interesting to me. R I don't know how accurate it is. Yeah, Steam to be. Yeah. so that doesn't matter. I don't think the four people on Steam or whatever is like I mean, it tells us a little bit, if a little bit gotot kind of viral, you, on Xbox The last it be more players. They're not selling a lot of Xboxes. Yeah. So you know, maybe people would have played it on PC since it is available there, but yeah, it seems Yeah yeah. it seems like not not many people are playing that So that's unfortunate And this this came out Oh, yikes. Yeahah, this came out like less than two months ago P it chart on the left. There we go So oh boy maximum So it peaked at one hundred and ninety three players. of time. So it pretty much doesn't matter how small the team was that worked on this Um, If you hit a peak of one hundred and ninety three players, that was probably not a success. Here's the other interesting part. Yeah is You know, how long ago did you say it came out less than two months ago So early development started in twenty nineteen Yeah, that was my reaction to that Apparently Kiln started as a project under Double Findess Anesia Amnesia Fortnite. which is an internal game jam Um that was in twenty seventeen But It was yeah, why did it take so long? The answer is simple. His team was pulled into other projects while they werere working on Kiln. Right. So Kiln was like a side project B project type thing while they're working on other stuff. It wasn't until after Psychonauts two was done that the developers could really start working on other stuff. and then that's when Kilm came out All right, so here we go Um How did psychonuts two do? Here's hereere's double fine. Any developed byouble fine So Gil Overall, positive reception, but twenty thousand eight hundred follows and four online with the peak of one hundred ninety three. The previous year, they had Keper which peaked at one hundred and ninety one and currently has two people online Psychonauts too. Yeahah, people are still playing that This is An order of magnitude bigger game than Kiln in terms of follows has people still playing it today peaked at seven thousand So the last time that Double Fine released something somewhat relevant was F years ago Keper is also a single player game I think being able to be done with a game is okay. Second Knots two is also a single player game And it's still being played more Yeah, it's obviously a way bigger title than Yeah. And well, no, that's what I'm trying to say though is these two are Well, it peakked at one hundred ninety one though Like people were done with it before they were ever playing it. Yeah. Yeah, bothoth of these two were just absolute flops. As far as I can tell. I don't know like that's a good metric. Yeah, especially when they're box first. So people with game passass are getting them for free. I don't know how much that impacts things and b. Is there any way to look up metrics for Xbox stuff? I doubt it Mm, notot that I'm aware of But I think if your game isn't like a complete banger And it's Xbox first, it's going to be really hurt on other platforms. because the thing is like if your game's not a complete banger, you're basically kind of boned these days. fromrom what I've heard, Game development is very much like It's stream where The vast, vast, vast majority of the money is made by the handful of projects that just abbsolutely rocket ship and Most titles that are released on Steam do not make any money essentially. Um And so I mean,m I'm looking at this going like even if this was a hundred times as successful on Xbox, if you have a peak number of players of Actually I know twenty thousand would be pretty good, except that if most of those were on game passass which is your subscription service anyway, that's not incremental revenue. How many people work a double fine? hundred Something like that Not cheap rolls either Yeah Dude, I um I think' this is tough This is tough because it's like a it's a I love Psychanas, you know. And I think that I think this is one of those things that's like extremely emotional for people Oh yeah. like When we don't have all the information, but I think what we're fairly severely lacking information, I think. But what I think we do know is that it's clearly been undermanaged for a really long time. And I think what's frustrating for me is that they finally made the changes at the top in what looked like an attempt to address this And now I feel like we're kind of getting rug pulled on it there I think that's the best way that I can summarize what's frustrating about what we're hearing right now. is it was like, hey, we're going to turn it around. And we're like, yeah, let's support that And it's like, oh, actually, no, psych, we're going to do this T around by doing what we've done before. we' doing before. Burn everything down. Yeah. I just I look at something like psychonauts which again, Xbox first, I see overwhelmingly positive reviews. Yeah. eight thousand three hundred reviews though. And I've seen multiple people in flloatplane chat point out I played S O two. I loved it. I played it on game passass. One of the problems that I have with that is you lose traction on other platforms. Yeah. So it does super well on Xbox. going pass specifically. It's not going to have the traction of the reviews and the amount of people playing everything else to make it rise up on something like Steam So it's like it's we' we've talked a few other times about, you know, two ignorant dudes who've never made a game. have talked about how in my opinion, it can be very bad for you to be a part of these game pass type subscriptions as if I know anything, but still, because it can really hurt you on these other platforms. you just don't get that interaction. I wouldn't even be surprised if someone had the stats on this, I'd be really interested. I wouldn't be surprised if people were less likely to interact with things like reviews and comments if it's a game that came for free in their game passass. They're just filtering through stuff they have. They're not as you mentioned it's very emotional. They're not as emotionally invested if they didn't spend the eighty Canadian or whatever it is American or whatever it is wherever you're from on the game. You're not as invested literally. I am way more invvested literally in stuff that I paid a lot of money for. Yeah way more or spent a lot of time on Like in order to achieve it, in this case, it time equals money Right? So like let's take something like my motorbike, which is finally done. I'm I'm way more invested in that paint job U even though like it didn't necessarily it did cost money, But even if it didn't, Like the fact that I've invested my time, which is, you know, equal to like my value, right? I've put I've put that into it I love it more for having put all of that energy into it. And so in the same way when I you know, when I was a kid and I saved up and I bought a game I like I wanted to like it And I wanted other people to like it too with me. And that was exciting and emotional Whereas no, I would not be and again, I also am not, you know, I'm not a psychologist I haven't studied this, but I would not be surprised if of somebody just playing something, that's there It's in front of them. It's in their game pass subscription without investing that money in the acquisition of it or having that anticipation, Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if they were not as evangelical about how great it is didn't create as much word of mouth. Yeah I think that can hurt it a lot Um Like I think that can hurt it. in ways that I can't understand. I imagine it can hurt it in ways that basically nobody can understand Um But like this is just such a well reviewed ame I mean, seconde knots two was before Microsoft acquired them though So when I the only reason I brought it up was because I had to go back that far to find a relevant So double fine game As far as I can tell, Microsoft purchased the studio in twenty nineteen. Yeah. so they developed that completely before Microsoft acquired them. Oh yeah, they published it afterwards, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Beause they published it like two years later. So they haven' they haven't developed and released Well, they released it on steam two years later. It might have been released earlier than that actually That's That's another thing. that's what something I was thinking about with Kiln is like When did it end up getting released on Becauseuse like man, man, I'm tangenting too much, but you know, GTA six is not coming out on PC right away. Sure isn't. GTA six will still be massively popular when it finally hits PC. I don't think every game gets that I think a lot of games have their hype cycle. Kiln was a simultaneous release. Oh, it was. Okay. Damn. That's Nope, it just didn't resonate. Um, But I do think like if something is released into game passass first And then you have that hype cycle, then you try to have two hype cycles by having it released on PC or wherever else. Yep, Sony, whatever it is later on. Oh, we've seen that so many times. It hurts it a lot. We've seen that so many times. I mean, hardware companies try to do the same thing. like you think back to I forget what GPU it was, but Nvidia tried to have a like an announcement embargo and then a like a specs embargo and then an unboxing embargo and a review embargo or something like that. I think it was either three or four separate embargos. that were anywhere from like a week to two weeks apart where they were trying to like create this massive extended hype cycle and I remember just telling them like, no we're not doing this I'm not going, I'm not going to just I'm not going to just like open the box and not be able to because there were there were things that I would have needed to be able to say in order to even give an informative unboxing of it that I wasn't able to. And they seem to have mostly backed off that or at least it's hard to tell because when was the last time they launched a GPU. It doesn't happen very often Yeah, like I saw, you know, the Google newews feed on your phone I saw something came through that was like the highly anticipated box art for GTA six And I remember it felt like we finally have a first look at the highly anticipated box art for GTA six and And I was like, man I'm so sorry for whoever had to write this article. I think number one. I think you mean the AI agent that generated the article, but sure. But But also like again, I'm coming back to like just Not every game gets this. They are genuinely probably like Vough one I don't think there's any other one where anyone's ever going to write the highly anticipated box art Um, Maybe at certain stages, other games, I feel like right now it might just be that I don't know. Maybe Ball's Gate three was big enough that the upcoming Divinity game might get some type of I don't even think so because no because Like GTA's box art is Iiconic. I'm trying to think of another franchise's box art. that has Becauseuse it can't just be I don't have an anticipated game. This is maybe the first negative thing I'll ever say about Baldersgate on this show, but I don't even think the Baldersgate box art was like that amazing. No, and it's not and more importantly though, for this comparison, it doesn't have a legacy. It doesn't have a history Whereas the GTA box art Oh has I was going say Baldersgate sure had a Boulderers an adt saying. It Bx art doesn't. Like like a GTA poster is the kind of thing that literally there are adults today that werere children with that on their wall You you know what? Yeah, totally. T from GTA five Yeah who are now grown into adults. And who are anticipating the release of GTA six? People People are like, whoa, I'm amazed you said that. I'll show you why. Where's Carlakbra? Where's Carl like? why is Missouri here and there's no carl like, What the hell, what? I mean, this also just feels like like Star Wars, which was modeled after previous film movie posters. like it doesn't This is this is not It's not iconic. and and like a G like GTA It could that could only be GTA that style. O see like I think I think that something like a Diablo has a very iconic Boxite I would say I would say Elder Scrolls actually has a pretty iconic box art. Honestly, the fact that this image exists at all. is is a decent indicator of what you're saying. Yeah. But nobody would be excited to see a new Elder Srolls box art because This is What I'm looking at over here is cool and it's not just It's not just cool because it spans such a long period of time that it's time capsules of cool Banning back like twenty years, more More thirty years almost Like Give me something equivalent Like even Nintendo with their with their prime IPs like you know, Mario Kart or Mario platformers or whatever. they have they have taken such a different approach over the years that You don't you don't have that Like other than the first couple titles here let's go back to you Other than the first couple of titles There's a style just one and two, which were I believe they were both toped down They were top down. So the second they really got the real identity of GTA Yeah, they went to GTA three and they got this box there and they never looked back That's pretty that's pretty strong Yeah, that's a statement.' like we nailed it. Now it's just that but cooler every time And I've never done This is funny. That's cool. Apparently Kootaku even has a whole thing This was linked by Noki and Chad Hi, Noki, it has to have a helicopter in the top left. Okay That's interesting. didnn't know that Oh, and it's got like pontoons this time. Sure It's a cool helicopter. Yeah. Everything about this is cool. Yeah Gives you some idea of where you're at. You got some palm trees. You got a little gator down there a flamingo So it does give you like information as well. Yeah. Got a pink bike. I was way ahead of the trend on that one. Let's go. But yeah, I mean that is that is a good point, but still oh my Godd If some other game did this and I'm sure some other game has, where they stick with like a trend and it looks cool, it still doesn't really matter as much because it's not GTA. Yeah. You know what I'm saying All right Okay, I apparently am supposed to where is it Oh for crying out loud. Okay, flloat plane announcement, Dan play the video. I think quarters like this, right? What am I looking at here What What is happening? I is that much. What is happening? What is Sammy doing? That's disgusting It's not even blended. What is he doing? Why is he drinking it? It smells like a burger. but kind of peanutty? get a little peanutty. Why is it here? Well, it just tastes like you bit all those things and chewed already.. And then you like spat that out and let it get cold and then put it back in your mouth is kind what it's like. Why is it here It's time for what? It's time for your wise minded punishment Excuse me Yeah. so remember last season, you didn't do your punishment yet I don't think I agreed to any kind of blended McDonald's punishment. I don't eat McDonald's at the best of times. Yeah, well, we're not eating Oh, youre aft, you aed. We. you aft We f You have to Noki says F five, the show is still up I' kind to Os and chapered No. Do I keep speaking? You can keep speaking Yeah. you don't eat McDonald's, you can drink McDonalds today. Did you at least make a fresh one? Yeah, this is fresh, this is fresh. re I reid a second one just for you So it looks like soil. So you lost last last last season of Wano. Why is W late unish you have to drink this delicious drink that I made It's not even pouring due to sludge. That's the worst thing I've ever seen. So he told me about this before the show because he asked if I wanted to do it as well because there's a decent amount of times where like when you just ate the limes or whatever. I've like joyed you. Oh, it's spilled ono the table. It's so gross But Oh, it's doing it more. Why would you put the drink in it?? Yeah, when you pour like the Coke or whatever you got. Oh yeah, well I need to blend. What was that? What The drink. big mac with the fries andke. Illink it with I'm not okay, you're doing it. Okaykay. How many calories is this That's so funny because that's another comment that I made These are all reasons why I didn't wantan tona do it. This has gota be like a thousand calories. No, it's like a couple hundred. There's no way What is what What is all in that? Yeah, what's in that? It's a big Mac An entire big Mac. Three cores of big Mac Three quarters of a bigig Mac. Okay Fries. Three quars of fries. Three quarters of what size of fries? And why did you bother three quarter it? Because ye we're testing it with the quarter first. You saw in the video. Oh. Wait, so when you say fresh, you mean you freshly blended it. but this burger is from like lunchtime today So lunchime today late for w today. I'm not gonna say who, but someone was late today. That This is not my fault. I plan it perfectly How How would you like to take your five and a half hour Blendy bag. Solidarity, you know what mean? Yeah, but you eat garbage. What are you? What do mean what do you just mean eat garbage? Well C good health. I'm not cheerersing nothing. and there's no good health that could possibly come from there. There No no chance. Prosperity in life Cheers. Oh, it's sludge. Oh my God. Oh no. Oh man w I really wish you guys had my perspective because watching that that Matrix slime go down L's throat is wild Oh But your hands covering it, T this way. He's still got more. It's okay. It was fine No. What kind of a thing to say is that? My seconds Get that out of here S slide upone over here with that. Oh there's so much mess. I'm so sorry. That's okay. I'll lick it up when everybody goes home. What? Just don't get it on the shag p. Let's actually wipe the table off though before it like encrusts into it.. Oh don't Oh my God, donon't pour it into the carpet, please. carpet I we get fired Oh O' be l man. I'm not gonna lie. That looked disgusting. That That was possibly the worst thing that I have ever tasted. You want to spr No, I'm good on the sprite. I think I'll wash it down with some water A big back here for you for want Oh, did I do not I don't think McDonald's' the best of time. More McDonald's is not the answer. Oh man. I did aull. I don't remember the last time I had Coke U I don't remember the last time I ate a big Mac. I have been known to enjoy some McDonald's fries from time to time. However Potato salt is not Pato and salt. The strongest flavor I think the weirdest thing about consuming that Coke, it's gota be. No, no. was the way that from one moment to the next You can taste individual ingredients. Like on that first bite I got a wave of mustard Oh That was like overwhelming. How didid you blend it enough? J justust about made me throw up. I blend it for a minute straight Why would you blend it for a minute? Beause last time it was too chunky. That's Oh man, Sammy, man. Dop in late for w. It my fault today. I can't explain why it wasn't my fault today, but it really wasn't my fault today There's an NDA that prevents me from explaining why it wasn't my fault Oh I should not move around right now I'm not talking today so have. I feel like I take a Bite out of a whole lime for multiple days in a row over doinging that easily. I would do that easily. Okay, do a full plan announcement. I think I would probably do it for like a month overd that. That Make sure you' not into that at all. Make sure you leave it on the kitchen counter so it sits all weekend Anyway, for those of you who aren't in the know, Y WA late is a series over on float plane that Sammy does where J just Y Wan late He he runs around the office in the lead up to the WN show and documents what we're up to before we start the show and in some cases after we should have started the show and For a particular season, there was a punishment and that was it And that was very unfortunate. If you want to check out YWan Late lMG. gg slash floatple. We've also gotone a lot of other really great stuff over there, including this is a fun one. A week in the life of Tatana, AK a material girl. This is the first time I've heard that nickname for her. but what's that on the right? Sure, that makes sense Oh, What's sound on the right That is the LTT Forever sock. Cing through Hopper infuse. Yeah. What does that mean? Antimicrobial qualitys. She does, she does all the fancy metedals Antimicrobial, I know silver is too. Yeah, silver is, copper is, I don't think gold is I don't think it has any kind of antimicrobial properties Um But yeah, per silver and zc. Yeah, tchianas, touianas are I I mean, obviously it's a reference to the Madonna song, but she's our materials specialist, not material girls U And so she kind of talks through some of u some of what her job entails in that video Allright, o man, I'm a little flustered. U So yeah, that's it. that's a floplate announcement. What else are we supposed to be doing? N are we All right, you want to pick a topic Luke? Yeah, dopamine sites are letting users shop without buying anything and this actually Okay, I actually like this. shattered my brain and then I had to put all the pieces together and then it exploded again. while I was trying try to understand what the heck somebody was talking about when this was first described to me. You talk through it and then I actually have not tried it yet because I wanted to do it live on. want I want to dopamine sites.ure. Okay, so you can set that up. Okay go for A new wave of these dopamine sites lets people go through the entire Online shopping or food ordering experience. L like the whole thing genuine. I'm gonna start brrowsing. Adding items to cart and checking out without actually buying anything The goal is to scratch the shopping itch without spending any money. and according to reporting from Business magazine Fast Company, some users find it surprisingly satisfying. though others see it as strange or dystopian, like I do as a solution to over consonsumption. window shopping for people who can't touch grass Sammy says, my prediction is I think this will be used to store customer data to sell to companies to see how customers shop. Yeah, for sure. I'm certain this is a crazy data harvesting I mean, why though? Because you'd have no way of knowing that people will shop exactly the same on a fake site as they would on a real one. I don't see how this would be useful data at all. I think it's what people are clicking on I mean, I guess, but these aren't real things anyway. like I guarantee you this is look, look, This is just the exact same background stuff was just like different AI plates. Yeah I don't think I don't think there's any useful data to be gained here. Looking at the text, I think there could be Or at least I think they could package it and sell it to someone as it being that, even if it isn't People do be, peopleople do be buy in data. Anyway, carry on Apparently, these aren't in the notes, but apparently as far as my understanding goes, it is like I said, the whole process. So you can go to a store, you can put in your fake credit card info, you can watch the tracking information You can see it show up. All that jazz Okay, so Seriously Typing in this information is something people want to do. This is the worst. When mine doesn't autofill, I get pissed off. Mhm M U Leave it at the door. donon't knock you might Wake my Tiny dog Okay, Okaykay, I'm going to pay I'll pay on delivery. No, I'll pay with wall. I'm going to place a demo order processing payments thirty minutes My turtle is on the way I can call them No, this is where it falls apart a little bit. Yeah Okay Cool. that was that cathartic for you? Well, it's not it's not supposed to be cathic good? Okay, I don't really don I don't use food apps Sobe maybe I could find a demo shopping site that isn't a food app. Yeah, they're supposed to have that as well. Okay U Wh do I where do I find where do I find more of these The rise of fake online shopping Food never comes. Okaykay, so that's that's the one. Are there any Are there any how many people are actually doing this That's another thing I'm wondering about like is this just a news topic because it's so crazy, so people are talking about it? or are people actually doing this?'t immagine many people are actually Go to dopaminehopping dot comot dopaminehopping dot comot Okaykay. Of course the thing at the front of it is a for thousand ninety Sorry what Nice Okay, buy everything Pay nothing the only honest star on the internet. Okay, here we go. So we're shopping Yeah Okay, so this is something I do. I shop online. I don't not usually for food. So there wasn't really okay. So yeah, I'll shop for something that I actually care about. Let's go for PC stuff Obviously, I wouldn't buy a fully completed PC. I would find some parts So why don't I ass that it goes There's a fourty ninety at the top, you scroll, it's makeup. Thisll it's computers. Well I mean, that would be interestnteresting the target audience. I think that would be pretty common sort of online Aspirational purchases, right? Yeah. So okay, I've got my for thousand ninety U Oh, I've okay, these are really cool. I have sales. I can add one of these to cart. They've actually got a fair amount of Aail. Florida ninety days of make believe condition, new, sealed and fictional I'd imagine this is like partly just like liability and whatnot. I mean, you haven't taken anyone's money, but if you Convince someone enough that it's real.be maybe they could, I don't know, get mad at you or something Free shipping from the other side of the world. twelve payments with zero imaginary interest a lot of reviews, but I guess that's probably just a random number generator. U Okaykay, it's just GPU's. like can I something dude something get shipped? No, I want to build a whole system, Luke. Oh okay Okay, can I okay, well here can I buy like a Can I buy like a Ryise in CPU? Um No, I can't I can't even I can't even buy just a CU Where? Oh, hey, there's one. All right I find a seven thousand eight hundred Xra. I mean, there's got to be DDR five Okay, so I'm shopping for DDR five. Oh here we go, here we go. Where are they pulling this pricing from Who knows I guess it doesn't really matter. No. AM five motherboard Oh, not a single. Okay, anything anything with a motherboard Okay I mean, o ye Mty socket A five. Yeah there we go Okay, add to cart Kind of fun that the images do a little wiggle. Yeah,s cute that's a cute little wiggle. U Oh, okay, platform Uh, sure. That's something? Sure. Storage factactory default Okay, hold on, what else in my cart right now? So here's everything in my cart. The pictures don't get retained Yeah, I got I need a case a PC case I want an expensive one. okay, Case. Yeah. Hey, there we go. Okay that's whole That's a whole good. No, no right, There's cases, there's cases. H nine elite. That's a nice case. I'll take one of those. Is it normally three hundred dollars? What else do I need H nine Eise. Should I buy a Windows license Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I don't know I can. No. Well, forget it with casiOS. twowo terabyte. That's a pretty accurate price for that case actually. in Canadian. I would imagine they would be pulling this from somewhere can' it can't be too random or it would just be kind of stupid, right Like these all seem these all seem like they're they're kind of close to someone's pricing, but then there's just like a bit of RNG , you know things a little copy my homework but make it differentnce so no one knows I copied you so that they can't tell, you know who for a budget or whatever. Yeah Okay, there we go. So I've got two terabyte SSD All right. Oh are there any deals? So I can browse deals You know what It's done. But I think it's easy as someone who doesn't suffer any kind of Iill effects from like an online shopping dependency of any sort for me to say to be dismissive But Having used it a little bit already I can see how if that was A concern for somebody If it helps you not just blow all your money online This actually great, I guess It scratches the itch a little bit. Does it? Yeah, a little bit becausecause there's no there's no risk. that I will Actually, like these look like cool cleats. I don't know There's no there's no risk that I will buy it except I could see I could see this app exposing me still to a product that I otherwise wouldn't have found and I would have thought that I was just harmlessly browsing and then that I would ultimately turn around and go byy somewhere else. Wow, this Armor thing on this four thousand eighty looks really cool I could do a sweite like Army green computer build. Let me go find this in the actual real world And then bu it. I could also see sites like this if their traffic actually got high enough startarting to sell placement. on their site if they aren't already 'ause you're kind of communicating to people in that way that this is an aspirational thing that people would want to purchase. Yeah So okay, what my account? Orers placed zero delivered, zero lost total save that you did not spend. Okay, so I go on here I feel like this is one of those things where If you have the discipline to only use it then it could be part of It could be part of sort managing this issue for yourself. Um But if not, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Okaykay, go to payment But if you already had sort of a shopping compulsion I don't see how this I don't see how this fixes it Okay, now hold on a second redirects to a PayPal that won't charge you a dime Not a single cent leaves your account. The dopamine though, that's real Okay, pay logging into the PayPal account, you forgot the password. Okay, payment approved, estimated arrival And this just counts down. I can track my delivery. This one's actually pretty sophisticated So it's going to go to Hawaii first Oh no It's just going to go Okay way around. That's kind of funny. Because how often do you feel like you order something And then it just goes to the middle of the Pacific Ocean for no reason and then comes back inststead of taking the more direct path If that's the actual joke, that's pretty funny order received I don't know, man, I'd love to hear what you guys think of it. Dan, what do you think I don't know, it's interesting. So I got your order, the company group chat blew up. I've never really had an issue with like I like the idea of shopping Like I like getting the thing Right I don't know. I don't think it's for me I was trying to find a website and I can't, and I think we talked about it last week that was like a dopamine detox but for infinite scrolling. and it was just a website that infinitely scrolled and showed you nothing So I've seen that And I was like, I don't believe it. and then I loaded it up and I still don't believe it because it gives you random messages as you scroll and the dopamine is figuring out what the next message is. I think it's I think it's Yeah, but the messages themselves like repeat constantly I don't know. I felt better using that than I think I would get using fake shopping thing Honestly, the thing there's been something that has finally actually been pushing me towards Graffy OS been that I realize that there is one remaining infinite scrolling app on my phone that I can't defeat Hold on let meiss Google News, you can defeat. Can you Oh, you mean like remove it. Yeah I think so. Can't you just remove the Google app 'Cause then when would you ever be exposed to? Oh, just by swiping things from the Okay, that's not how I access it I have never formed that habit I always access it from my search bar I never do this. So I actually never think about that. D didnn't even know that you could get it from there. Oh yeah, there's all this to there It's like any good fix. There's a lot of ways to get it. But yeah, I've figured out recently that like I have killed infinite sccrolling on my phone except I will If I'm sitting there with nothing to do. I'm trying to make it so that I'll do something better on my phone. I'm counting chests as an acceptable thing. Okay, not chest counts, I think chest counts. But I have found myself If I'm idling, I don't know what to do, I don't really want to turn my brain on. I'll flip over to the Google News and scroll through that quite a bit. and I'm like, this is not I don't like this. If I want to get news, I can go get it from places that I think are probably on the level instead of just this like random feed that I'm constantly being like, I don't want to receive anything from these people again. It's like the main thing I do when I'm interacting with Google News is like, please don't like me this anymore.er it is. Yeah. L there'll be something about the Detroit Red wings and there' like some player that they're trading or not trading. And I'll be like, not interested in this and'll be like Do you want to you're not interested in hockey?'re not interested in hockey? I'm like, no, I just I don't care about the Red wings Nobody cares about the Red wings right now. That's like the whole point of why this guy doesn't want to play there anymore. Like, come on, man Yeahes so it's annoying. I want to get it off my phone and I have spent almost no time actually trying to, but I suspect what I'm going to run into is that I can't U, so that might be the thing that drives me off of eresting You know what? The more I think about this, the more I actually kind of like it Not because I necessarily would use it. If it helps someone, then great. Apparently it was only two people that it took to make it But if you're but in the same like I was thinking about so that thing I said where I was like, oh, the risk could be that if I see something that I'm tempted by, this could make me go off site, but that's That's the whole behavior. that people are trying to avoid is when they aren't intentfully going somewhere and finding something to buy it. This is just giving them something to scroll and taking away that convenient one click Like there's a reason that Amazon I believe invented and then like tried to patent or whatever One click purchases. It wasn't Amazon Uh, I have no idea. It feels like it probably would have been One click Yes, Amazon invented and patented the one click purchasing method So If If that reduction in friction wasn't important or effective Amazon wouldn't have done it You know, you know what you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So if there's anyone that this can help by just N not having that one click available. Like if I have to do what you did, right? You have you had to click through to the page You had to go here You had to copy You had to paste U Well, I would right click Google search, but yeah, sure. Okaykay. you had to do you had to do something. Then I have to go find it in stock. Yeah, blob, I have to click a thing. I have to do this That didn't even whereere did it go? It just disappeared because Nvidia doesn't care about selling gaming GPU's anymore. L but you see what I mean, right? We're putting we're putting friction in a place where the other app on their phone that does this doesn't have that friction. and just says, Oh, you want it Here you go and it took actual money away from you, The more I look at it, the more I'm like, okay, If this helps anyone, then Sure Also, with the help of Chat, Um How you turned off already? It's going, was qu You long press on your home screen, you click home screen settings and you disable swipe to acccess Google apppp. Okay. And I actually don't think I'll just start doing the thing that You do because the swiiped access Google The whole reason why I'm trying to get rid of all the infinite scrolling apps is because it's like muscle memory almost. Right ye. And I have a muscle memory of swiping to the side. Let's see what's going on. So as long as that doesn't work, I'm sure that that will happen and my brain willll go huh, and then I'll go play chess or do whatever. I think I told you already that Reddit did me a huge favor when they semi deprecated our slash all because I You know, in the same way. It's like, oh, let's see what's going on So it still exists. But the only way to access it, and this is actually kind of amazing for me is pretty inconvenient on mobile. So you have to do, you have to go to old dot Reddit. Oh, right And on mobile, this is a terrible interface Yeah. Like I can't see thumbnails for crap. No. And it makes me it makes me use it way less actually. It's been pretty great. Something I like is every I don't have Reddit installed inin it' sclling up. But every once in a while I do need to access it. so I'll access it through the browser. Y. And something that I love is that it will Put up a thing is so annoying Do you have to use the app now? Yep. I can't see it anymore And I'm like, Ohh, great. And I just closeed the browser. I just I'm not installing your dayat. I just didn't install the Reddit app Oh ye just I just didn't. Yeah, I don't have it either. And so I actually have muscle memory to dismiss that. Now The one that I get's not dismissable What? Which I'm completely okay with What? Are you sure? No, it's got to be dismissable. I'm pretty sure Wonder if it's becausecause I'm on Firefox? Greenberg says both have all. I don't think on the app might have it. That I don't know. I don't use the app. But I know that for I mean, maybe that's not true anymore I know that for a while you had to do old When you see It's not there It just takes you to the homepage, which is an algorithmic page Yeah, so I just get View and Reddit app and then I just have an X and open Oh, so o, I did put it on. actually forgot about that I put it on because I had to do something moderation related. You know what? I haven't touched that in so long I'm just going to remove it There, you're kind No close whichich again, I'm totally okay with because I just go boop, goodbye 'use I'm not. I' not. Hold on, No, no, hold on, hold on, let me refresh this Yeah, I no, I have never seen that before. Is that new I don't know because I've just been using old No, see, look Wait, you inv readit app? I don't even have it. What are you talking about? It just prompts me to install it from the store No I can's like view and Reddit app. It's like from scrolling and opening stuff and scrolling and opening stuff, that will just show up. Really? Yeah. I' I like run out of time almost. What browser are you on? Firefox I've used Firefox on mobile Without a pause for like over a decade. I really like Firefox much. I wonder if that's like a Firefox user target thing Do you does does Firefox block ads on Reddit Oh Becauseuse maybe they go after you are agressing I'm pretty sure I've seen the deep brand ads that are funny and ours. I basically just get us in deep breath. Hey, speaking of us and talking about Creator Warehouse, I guuess we should probably do that real quick. Dan just put Dan just put the sign up there It was late Iife forore. No, no, you're good. Okay, we do not have a big announcement for a new product or anything like that this week for LTT Store. We want to give you guys a bit of advance notice that there's some pretty big stuff coming up. Okay. If you've had your eye on something, you're not going to want to miss next week Lime day is kicking off the Linus inventory management experience is kicking off on june twenty third for float plane members And on the twenty fourth for everybody else You'll find deals on select Gear and Aarel, plus some amazing bundle offers that are going to be worth checking out And a reminder that our float plane plus supporters get free shipping over certain thresholds. So this could be a perfect time to pick that up if you were planning to place an order, Um That shipping that you would have paid for anyway could cover like depending on how much stuff you're getting, even a few months of being a float planane plus supporter over at lMg.gg slash float planane. Just make sure that you sign up for our email list so that you'll get a reminder of when events like this go live. You can do that over at Lttstore. com. Another announcement, but not something you can buy today is we're bringing a little bit of controlled radiation down to open suce. Before our new nuclear colorway lands on LtT Store, open source attendees will get an exclusive first look. I think they can they buy it there I can't remember. anyway You can join us july seventeenth to nineteenth at our open sauce booth and yeah, so you can get your hands on one before the rest of the internet. Yeah, I believe we will have some for sale there And if you want to know the exact moment that nuclear escapes containment and lands on the store, again, make sure you sign up for notifications so you'll be the first to know. pllus you will receive a one time ten percent discount code. So you can check that out But whereere is it U somewhere here Is it this one Oh Now I don't know. What are you trying to do? sorry? I'm trying to find the the sign up for notifications and get Cpon thing. U Normally it would be LinkedIn here. I don't see it linkedIn here. Yeah. Okay hold on. on the nuclear escapes land. So it's probably on the screwdriver question mark. Well, I subscribed and I will check and see if I get anything I think I was already subscribed to the newsletter though so it probably won't Where do they? Where do they find it? M, Yeah, somewhere Nobody knows. someone does Not us. Oh, Dan, there's more announcements. Yes Oh yeah, sure. Okaykay. yeah, we're hiring. Loo for a full time writer to join the LT team. if you're interested in applying, head over to Linusmediagroup. com slash careers to get some more information. And we've got dates for the next whaleland It's going be august twenty ninth and thirtieth. BYOC tickets will be available starting at eighty dollars Canadian and there will be a limited number of whale VIP tickets for five thousand dollars Canadian whale VIPs will receive a high powered custom built gaming PC from Star Fororge Systems and a studio and labs tour plus a swag pack with the exact items curated closer to the event. Tick a sales start. Ticket sales start this Monday at noon at whaleland. All right, good stuff Oh yeah, now it's time for us to do a couple of comps. If you guys aren't familiar, Cs are the way to communicate with the show. We don't do Twitch pits or super chats or anything like that. We figure if you guys are gonna to throw money at your screen, you should probably get quality merchandise in return. So all you gott to do to send a call communication message, checkout message, whatever we want to call it I mean it changed the name recently Don't worry about it. is add something to your cart, head on over to your cart and ask to display your order as a checkout message. You can make them anonymous, You can show your name. You can type anything you want, literally anything And then you place your order and it will go to producer Dan Who will I don't know. He'll pop it up on screen or maybe he'll respond to it himself, or maybe he'll curate it for me and Luke to respond to, Dan, do you have a couple for us? I do. That's why I asked you to do them. That makes sense. It does We're getting good at this. Hello, Aanda DL. L time viewer, first time messenger. I have to know if there's More stubby colorways coming. For now I will steal this stubby I bought for my dad U Semicolon dash Right parentheses. Thanks in advents. Um At this time, we have no plans for additional colorways of the stubby. It sells okay. The stubby is not going away. We're going to keep restocking it. But unlike the full size driver, it doesn't move in such volumes that we could have different colored plastics that would also sell in enough volume that they would be worth restocking. So Sorry But at this time, the studubby is in I believe it's in black and black or black and orange and that is about Itet That was a huge order. It's like a four hundred dollars order. They picked up some true S spec cables, a bunch of other stuff. Dan moved it before I could actually see it.. Terrib sorry., you It's only gonna to be like the one that's right there?. Oh yeah, I see it now There it is, yeah, picked up a picked up a stubby, precision kit, scribe driver Tw S sccribe drivers, map of Siberia desk path, that thing's really cool. Is there more trpect cables coming? There's already some out of stock areready? Yes Thereusts quite a few out of stock, actually. Yes. Yes, more trrue spec cables are incoming. It's been it's been painful trying to keep enough of them in stock Yeah. Hit me, Dan. Sure, gotot another one here. What's up boys? Like Do think that's supposed to say Luke? No. That's o. Oh Yeah, Like, do you pronounce it like like or I thought this was just Valley girl talk. Like what what a bench do order that took so long to arrive? Looking at get a bench myself and I know you wantce one puck good. U. I love that that was said in Valley Girl. We should we should do all all Cs are now Cs are now Valley Girl. It was an Irwin fitness bench Er fitness. L like the ones that make the clamps or differentifferent Erwin I think probably different actually. makes sense. But yeah, it was, I mean, it's very nice. It took astronomically too long to arrive He, well, which one is it I mean, it's you, it's gotta be alpha. I don't think so. Alpha. Oh this isn't even like the stuff. Oh, okay Equipment Bches benches at the top Benches be crazy I think it's the AB one The A B one. V Very expensive. Binge. It's really nice. Five stars. I treated myself. nine forty nine Luke doesn't spend money but when he does, he spends it on his health And this is like, I should genuinely be able to keep it basically forever. You can replace the pad U bene the the frame itself is like not going to go bad So I can real keep this all the time. I I need Linus to review the bench fully like in person No I would. That's a fine bench. I really like YouTuber face. Hey, that guy's video actually highly convinced me to get it. Influencer. I didn't know it was on there. He did he influenced me, ye. Hi, my name's Gloke G look I want Lice to actually do an unboxing review of this, you know? There's no way I wouldn't know anything to say about it. It goes up and down. The circuit. Now I'm flat. I can be angled if you'd like Voice actor, Wan show. See you best. All right. yeah, cool. Got a bench Um So when you were mad that it didn't arrive on time, would you say that you were Bench pressed. Oh my God is that I was I was actually like fine, pretty cheese. I thought I read somewhere that it was it was gonna to take like a month and because it's like wouldould you say that You had to Wait call for it. All right, that one cs That one was actually pretty good. When there were no accessories Did you see that You had gotten everything unboxed, Bar none I was really wondering where you were going but. Barnon's pretty good, I think Barnon's pretty good. I don't know I'm just glad the whole thing it also especially works because there is no bar. I'm just glad that after after it all, you know, it worked out Oh. That one was a bit of a stretch, but like go off. The funniest part to me is that I splged on that But dumbbells are really, really, really, really, really, really expensive. Yeah. And it's something I learned when I had to like buy a gym for Sashtam. And it's just metal. Metal's cheap, isn't it? Turns out it's not, and it also costs a lot of shipping But It's also in like your condo, you don't want a whole wall of dumbbells. So usually go for adjustable dumbbells and adjustable dumbbells U so like it's just adjustable metal. It's so expensive and they ra like pretty easily I feel like we could disrupt this market. LTT LT store adjustable dumbbell Yeah it's like that dopamine site. It's just a digitally it's like a web page where you just change the weight and nothing actually happens But yeah, so I decided to not buy fancy adustable dumbbells. Yeah. So I borrowed the old school plate loaded adjustable dumbbells my parents aren't using because they have like actual Dumbll wall U and so I have these like old slightly rusted I think I'm to describe them as it looks like it came out of like a Russian gym Nice And then I have that paired and non matching plates. R. So I can load them up with, I think it's like sixty five pounds each But one of them, yeah, one of them has like three perfectly matching plates. and then there's the weight of the bar and the nuts on the end. And then the other one has, I think it's like genuinely like five or six different plates on it. and it goes all the way to the end of what the bar can hold. So they're not even the same. It's funny that We don't seem to ever be able to move beyond that. Move beyond what? I bought a Taian turboS and I harv I harvest the windshield wiper housings and just put new silicone in. That is why I bought You bought a nine hundred fifty dollars flat surface so that you could use mismatched custom rusted f more expensive than my computer chair I spent a lot less time in it. I really like it, though Weurge we allow ourselves to spurge on one thing and only one thing it st. It's not even about the splurge. It's just it's about the like I have one. I was shopping a lot I buy a new one? I spent genuinely months going on Facebook Marketplace trying to find like a used bench I could buy. and it was just gage like rotting garbage the entire time. There was no options. I was really hoping to find like some gym that would close that would have an Atlantis bench because I really like the Atlantis bench. that's at the community gym that I often go to. Never found any of those. When I bought this, this was like pretty close to peak like elbows up by Canadian So I was trying to look into buying Canadian, but almost all the u, you know, weightlifting equipment manufactrs are either American or overseas Yeah. So like I kind of ran out of a lot of options and then this one was apppparently like some some welders in the East in Canada. So it's like Canadian people hand making things and I was like, all right, well I'll be in elbows up bro and spend a bunch more money and buy this one instead. Frankly, it seems like Yeah. Nah And this is like the type of stuff I was finding Yeah on Facebook Marketplace. and like this was someomebody died in this garage. Yeah Sorry, but and like and again, I spent months. So I just it eventually came down to like, okay, well, if I want to buy Canadian And I want it to like actually hopefully be actually Canadian and not, you know, re badged somewhere else. and I don't want to buy some like You know somethingomet like that off Facebook Marketplace. I wanted an actually pretty solid bench. I kind of ran out of options. And then I watched Gluck's video, saw that Irwin one and was like, he mentioned in the video that it's Canadian. I was like, okay, well That's like one of my only options at this point. I'll go that route. I tried to do the same thing for dumbbells and it was like too grand. and I was like, Nah M Yeah. I'll borrow my parents. I'm done. I already spent the like crazy amount money on the flat surface. I'll wait on the other one. Maybe one day you'll be strong enough to hold your elbows up two thousand dollars worth. Well I'm already It's not this day. Yeah. I'm already like overweight for the wow, unfortunate phrasing That's true, but I'm already over like I can lift more than those dumbbells. But my argument is like at least I can do something at home and then if I want to lift heavier I should just go to the gym But it's nice to be able to like if I have a burst of inspiration, I'm at home, I can actually just rips and stuff. You can do a lot with a bench and no bells Well, someone can. I can't You can That would hurt myself, for sure. one hundred percent. Are you you still working out? A little bit. I think I have some boobies now S boobies. Sthern creatine. Very small boobies. Yeah, but honestly, ever since I started it, I've been like Really busy. I've been traveling for computext, traveling for other stuff U There's been a lot of video projects lately My My wife brought home a bunch of chicks and ducklings Um, so it's it's a thing. It turns out that you can Oh, shoot, there was There was something that I was going to talk about it on Wan Show and then I totally forgot to write it down. And now I guess I won't talk about it. It was just kind of an interesting topic Um Anyway, yeah, so so it's a thing. There's like multiple services that You it's not that cheap. It's like a hundred dollars or something like that, but they kind of do everything bring you some incubators And u, and they have fertilized eggs in them. and then they give you these like littleittle shiny lighty magnifying glassy things and you can like check on them every day and watch the watch the chicks And the ducks like develop and grow inside the eggs. And they give you like all this documentation and stuff so the kids can like learearn about bird development and And then they hatch and like it's really exciting. and then they bring you like a little habitat for them and like all the food water turns out ducklings, you need a special water c for them that they can't get their head into because they just have like an instinct to put their head in water and they'll just die if their mother's not there to stop them from doing that. They'll just kill themselves in like this much water. these are stupid. Yeah. I mean, it's a miracle they survive in the wild. Yeah And then you just like them you like take them out and play with them and they sh everywhere because they're birds. and then when you're done with them, you basically just like put them back in the enclosure and you say, Yp, we're done and then they take them away And it's it's Yvonne and the kids especially have been having an absolute blast with it. So we have the cats think. We have two ducklings right now and four chicks And u The cats Panda in particular is super into just watching them walk around and make their little peep peep peep sounds. Obviously they' that the enclosure like latches and Chicks are not allowed out of the enclosure when the cats are around because that would end really poorly really quickly But ninet four. I mean, presumably for a farm somewhere that just runs this as like a side hustle, but it's like very white glove, honestly, all things considered. Like they literally like come to you and like drop off the enclosure and stuff. My sister put us onto it She's like, oh yeah, no, I've seen these before and They're a thing and we looked into it. There's like at least a few companies locally that do it. I hope Emma iss not watching or else I'm gonna have this like next week. Oh yeah, they stink. so, know, I'm sure. Yeah, because they're like, you know, farm animals. Yeah, cool They're really cute though. I'm sure. When the ducklings are first born, they're like the stupidest things they can like they like they like waddle like this and they' like they're so clumsy, it's adorable Have ever seen a like Very fresh greatreat Dane puppy No. God, they're so funny. Their feet are enormous. Their feet make no sense For some reason their feet are just so such higher scale than They like how humans, humans are born with a liver that's like almost full size or something. That's why baby's tummies are so big. I read that somewhere. Let me double check that. Weir uman babies, big liver. Howold long I'm going to check that? Um ah blah, blah, it'sorm for healthy human babies have a disproportionately large liver compared to the rest of their body while an adult's loc,' not full size. whileile an adult's liver accounts for about two percent of body weight a newborn baby's liver is up to five percent So no, it's just it's just big. it's not It's not like full size when they're born Apparently they have big eyes too, according to Rooker in float planane chat Human to babies? Yeah Eyeballs, they don't grow Is that true That's why their eyes are so big because they're the same size. W, that actually makes a lot of sense Unkey Anyways,be I'm wrong according to Christ.king about. I don't know I don't know. I'm just out here spreading misinformation. I can pick one. Here's a funny They just grow a lot less, apparently This is amazing. This is mostly just funny. Tesla self driving safeguards apparently Deated by doll headads So this is a product you can buy now that has a little suction cup that you stick to the top of your car and then you position it Oh my God, that's really funny So you can sit on your phone and the car sees some head being very very diligent about looking at the road Oh, that's so funny. That's also funny because if you smashed into something Your insurance would definitely get that footage. Yeah, they definitely would. So so there's a camera that attracts the driver's attention during autopilot and full self driving use. And so the heads are positioned such as like you see there that Fools the safety system into thinking you are a very attentive driver. And Chinese e commerce platforms are selling these tiny plastic heads as traravel companions and dashboard decorations for as little as ten Dollars U Our discussion question is, oh, I don't know if we're going to discuss this again, but does marketing, driver assist technologies as autopilot and full self driving even with supervised tacked on, encourage drivers to assume they don't need to pay attention to what their car is doing. I mean I think we've talked about this extensively and there's there's finally a class action in What is it Denmark or something?ere somewhere over in Europe, there's a class action that has about seven thousand people on it now that's basically like, yeah, so that was false advertising, that whole thing. And not just for the people who bought the full self driving software package, but also for the people who bought all these hardware three cars that will never have full self driving U Hardware four is apparently getting really good. now that I'm done with that last comma video Procurement is on getting our hands on a hardware four car. So I think what we're going to do is either we'll buy one or I'll make a little trade with somebody internally because I think there's a couple people. that actually have hardware four cars here. And so maybe they can take the Taian for a month and I'll take their Tesla for a month. and we'll call that a fair trade I mean, yeah, I don't mind, as long as they don't as long as they don't crash it. Yeah, yeah yeah Um Cast racing says, just rent one, by man. I mean, why. I can if I if I can do the trade then like that that seems like a that seems like a win win. Ale like wins. Um But yeah, I'm definitely, I'm definitely wanting to try it. Hardware fours apparently White good It's just like My only The issue with it has been the false representation because what it wasn't and what it still isn't is completely autonomous It's not So When it isn't, I really believe strongly that they shouldn't have called it that That's it And I don't It's kind of wild to me that to some people That's a bad take That seems like objectively a good take When something is not, a thing you said it is That's bad That's a scam. That's fraud That's false advertising. You can kind of use whatever word you want for it, but It falls under the umbrella of don't do that O it should, anyway Maybe it doesn't Maybe it makes you a trillionaire. Maybe nothing makes any sense Here's a cool thing. There's a new three D printing tech that's using elliptical laser beams to stir molten metal. and create alloys on demand coolest part is that existing machinery can apparently implement this technique in software. Meaning more convenient, stronger alloy printing. Researchers at NIST have figured out how to mix metal alloys mid prrint by changing the path the laser takes In standard metal three D printing, the laser melts powder while tracing straight lines, and each melt pool only blends its ingredients a tiny bit NIST researcher Ho Young instead programmed the laser to draw continuous elliptical loops as it moves phhysically stirring the molten pool while it's still liquid, kindind of like whisking the metal together Um There is a bit of a catch. while some existing metal printers that are already in the field could in principle be reprogrammed to do this Commercial three D printer software can't draw these patterns. so The team had to write their own from scratch And they proved it by fusing REHA nineteen Dense high entropy alloy with a lightweight titanium alloy and watching them combine into a new alloy in real time That is so cool. So quick primer here, and I'm not an expert on this. so hopefully whoever prepp this topic knows about metallurgy. mostost traditional allies are one main metal with small amounts of others mixed in, like steel, which is mostly iron. a high entropy alloy instead blends five or more metals in roughly equal amounts, which can make them exceptionally strong or heat resistant. The problem is those metals have different densities and melting points, so they tend to separate into weak blotchy regions as they cool. So basically exactly the problem that this stirring technique fixes So the longer term vision though, is allys on demand. So instead of stocking a different pre mixed powder for every alloy, A single printer loaded with basic elemental powders could blend custom alloys on the fly, which would cut material costs and even allow you to vary the composition across a single part to replace welding. What the hell, that's really cool Oh. Yeah, wow. This is like Metal printing already absolutely blew my mind the first time I heard about it because I was like Oh, that's the coolest thing ever. Alloys on demand is like feeleels very space age This is very enterprise. Ver Yes. this is Star Trek. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like you just this is like actually a food replicator, but metal. Yeah,'s actually that's insane. Metal AF you might even say That's That's really crazy. Yeah I was like I was reading about this week and I was like, Re? like what are you talking about? And you can even and it can be like backported onto existing machines fact that it's a software update. L The whole thing is just kind of wild. That's That's really cool. Yeah. Like I'm trying to imagine like what would I What would I do With this is one of those things where I feel like my imagination is the bottleneck Like we alost need more limitations so you can like what could what could I create them? Like I could create I could create a part that, you know, is like solid here, but then like has a sprung element here. likeike I could make I could make like a hand squeezy thing. You know what I mean? Becauseuse I could have I could have one metal here and then I could have like like a super bendable alloy here and I could make like a hand exercise. okay? That I don't know. I was thinking about your weight bench reat like I' Like I'm just I'm trying to think like, what can I make with this? reaking almost I think the most interesting part is just being able to rapidly experiment with different allies if you're doing like prototyping or whatever else to try to find You know, what one looks the best, What one feels the best. What one is strongest story whatever. Yeah. I was going to say strongest but I don't like is the resulting part as strong I don't think it would be if you three D printed a piece versus like casted a piece Fr my understanding at this time, no. Yeah. So I don't know if you could do strongest Um But you might do you might be able to do strongest in this u In this geometry Like not everything ising relatively relatively strongest. Ncessarily. Yeah. Interesting, sure I for me, it really speaks to like prototyping stuff. really rapidly, I guess. Here's some cool AI news. Relax, relax, it's actually cool U NvIidia research published a paper where Basically, they trained robot arms to perform some Is this actually really cool? Yeah, it's really cool. Where is this where they install a GPU? Oh yeah. So we're not even needed anymore it's so funny. that is exactly what my note said on the on the topics spreadsheet. Hold on. Let me see if here it is. Here's when topic checklist Yeah. I mean don you don't need how to basics installing a GPU if your little robot does it for you. Anyway, what's cool about it is not just that a robot arm did a thing because we already had that. But earlier this week, Nvidia director of AI, Jim Fan revealed that researchers can now enable auto research in the physical world and presented a demo reel that introduces Npire It gave eight coding agents a fleet of robots, an allocation of GPU's, and a whole bunch of tokens before giving the agents tasks to solve as quickly as possible without making mistakes Fans said, All we did was give Codex an API to the world of atoms and the rest is emergence. And that once and he said that once instructed, the robot fleet starts to come alive. They look for visual cues, reset the scene, practice novel skills, tinker with control stack, read papers online, debate, reflect, get stuck, and try again directly on the hardware. The agents were able to manipulate the robots to complete tasks like sorting precision screwdriver bits Ting and cutting zip ties. inststalling a GPU in a motherword PCIE slot And pushing a three D printed te around on a table. Tests also included using different agents and different numbers of robots and concluded that eight robots working in parallel solved the tasks significantly faster than fewer ones Empire runs fully autonomously. Testing the agents's hypotheses in the real world, automatically evaluating successes and failures, then resetting the experiment to its initial state for the next trial and deciding what to try Tom's H hardware reports that the Empire project will be open source So you could conceivably host your own automagical robot lab at home. Yeah it's kind of wild the amount of open source stuff that's happening in the AI space It's it's kind of surprising I mean, I can see Nvidia's motivation? No for sure. And from Nvidiaspoint, yeah, youd sell more shovels, man I'm know. The fact that Near Frontier models, like when Deep Seak first landed was just Here you go, everybody. that was pretty surprising. Yeah. I'll give you that. I'm assuming that's kind of more what you were Oh you're talking about. Yeah I mean, even like, you know, that it's from NVIidia is not too surprising here, but just the sheer volume of stuff in this space that has been Be being in the open source realm is kind of what I'm talking. Like this one in particular isn't all that surprising, but just another one being on the wall is the surprising part, I guess Want to see the tying a zip tie one H we go Do it just this one or does it work with it? Yeah? There it is. works with its buddy. Here you go buddy I like that it adjusted M a c Oh, no way Okay, that was a pretty cool move. Yeah, actually. was that was a pretty cool move sinking, it's having a think Acculating, wait for it Wait for it. I feel like I'm getting blue balls waiting for the big moment here Git for it? Stell going Wait, did that did it end No. Oh, hold on. Why would they do this to us? I can't believe you've done this That's so real. Which has happened? D it just did the video player just break That's crazy. What just happened there? Okay, hello Can we this player sucks Yeah, they should use Flat playing We could help them with that I'm so confused right now. Where's the Do Do they vibecode this or this work? It kind of seems like Yeah, this it yeah, this just this just doesn't do anything. Yeah, nothing works. Is this is this slop? Have we have we found a slop? Oh man. okay, hold on. Maybe it'll go this time Maybe it'll be different this time just freeze on this frame instead. Yeah, none of this is working. I can't click on any of the other things. fine. How about the GP? They all just they all just tease you. This is crazy Man, do I have to go to there only f? finish point. G back to Oh my God go back to your screen. Right click on it, show controls. That's a good point. Soone to point at that out Oh, really Nope Big fat pile of nope there. it's at the end. That shows that it's actually at the end. Okay, so that's it. That's as far as that one goes. All right Way to go in V. Way to go in Vidia. Either way, sounds pretty cool. I've actually been finally tinkering around with some home lab AI stuff. I got Odysseus installed this week. Oh installed Yes I got to have my first wonderful experience with NVvidia Drivers on Linux. It turns out that depending on the GPU you're running And depending on the disistro you're using is a giant bigig fat bag of dungs. Yeah. So I my original plan was I found a couple of GV one hundred quadros, like old school quadrros in the warehouse and some envy links. And I was like, oh yeah, well that seems like a thing that would be should pretty good. running bigger VRAM. L lot of VRAM. A lot of VRM high speed interconnect between the VRAM. So we have the thirty two gig version of those cards. I have two of them So that gives me sixty four gigs of kind of mostly cooled VRAM. Yeah. Well, yeah, it turns out they only have after after fighting with this for Probably a grand some to Okay, no, I should go back to the beginning. Is this a video? Are you making this a video U I don't know yet. Okay. There's no real payoff yet. Sure. And the last thing that I would have needed is to make a video with this much trial and error just yet. So I was poking around in the warehouse. I found those GV one hundreds and I was like, oh, that seems pretty cool. And then I also found that RTX five thousand ninety that we did that power connector modification on. Yeah. You know, the one with the super sketchy Yeah XT one hundred twenty power cable going into it and then just like wires instead of the twelve volt two by six And I was like, Hey, what did nobody's using this thing We have a freaking RTX five thousand ninety that is just sitting in the warehouse not being used. I remember telling people explicitly. I was like Hey, after we do this mod, obviously we can't use it for comparative benchmarking anymore, but we could definitely use it for like if we have anything that we just need to run because it still totally works Um, what the heck? Why is this just sitting on the shelf? Fine. Well, if I'm like doing some AI crap at home, then I'll use it. So I So I so I grabbed it, I put it in a bin I took it home. No, no, don't worry. I figured out, no's using it. So anyway, I got home and I was like, Okaykay, well this could be a pretty cool little station. I grabbed like a Sapphire Rapids Zeon platform that nobody was using because who would? But it has a lot of CPU cores and supports a lot of RAM Corsair must have sent over this like ECC DDR five kit that probably was for Sapphire Rapids back then. So I dug that up. This is before before the great shortage. so it's not the fastest stuff, but it's a lot of capacity So I built everything up and I was like, okay, so I'll have the dual GV one hundreds for when I need like a ton of memory capacity. And then I'll have the RTX five thousand ninety for if I need actually like faster compute was having a Hell of a the time getting it to work And the conclusion that I drew is, oh, no, there must be something wrong with that stupid modified five thousand ninety pull it off the bench and I go needs to be redone Like we did, in fairness to us, we didn't have the best tools on hand at the time, and we didn't really know what we were doing, modifying power connectors on GPU's. We did a terrible job and the captain tape that we had because we forgot to put the sleeving on before we did the soldering, and we were afraid of killing it if we took the solder drum off and put it back on again, which was a very legitimate concern because we put so much solder on it that I actually did end up spilling solder all over the board and I had to wick it all off very, very carefully Um So that capapton tape was like coming off And that positive and negative terminal were like Right there, like like hairs away from each other So what I ultimately did was I pulled everything apart I des soldered everything, got all that solder hole over the board, had to had to wick all of that up, had to kind of bend it a little bit more at some point in storage One of the sense pins for the twelve volt two by six that tells the GPU, hey You're good to go. draw six hundred watts. One of those got torn off, just like sheared off So I had to go deeper into that connector, cut away the connector, bridge the appropriate pins. It turns out we didn't need to run that cable at all, which is something we understand better now, but didn't at the time. You can just solder together two of the pins. I think it's pins or I forget, it's the two of theedge ones, one and two or three and four, I can't remember Um I grabbed some new wire. so we used this like eight gauge stranded and yet like thick, stiff copper wire last time that was safe In fairness to Luas, it was safe to use that, but it was really rigid and inflexible and it put a lot of strain. on those connectors, especially with the weight of the XT one hundred twenty. So I grabbed some ten gauge, which I was right by the way, Lucas is fine It's good enough. He was also right though, because eight gauge is rated for fifty amps and ten gauge is not But when we looked it up, that was for like in wall This is not in wall. this is next to an intake fan. It turns out it's fine So I got some ten gauge wire, which was a lot easier to solder. and it's like the silicone like hobbyist grade stuff. so it's like quite a lot more flexible. What Lucas was right about though, is XT ninety s are not good enough U, I tried it for Lulls. I ended up disassembling the XT one hundred twenty, cleaning all the solder off of it and then using that instead. So hey, we can both be right Luke is more than me, but that's fine. I was there with a flar Like I was standing there with a flar and I was like I'm not going to guess I'm gonna find out for sure What is too much resistance on this wire So Finally, after not being able to get the fifty nine D wororking. in the system put it back in And it's still not working. And I go holy crap, I must have gotten some solder somewhere on the board. I must have done something. It's not working. I can't install the drivers And I go Meanwhile, I've been trying to get the GV one hundred s working. And I like It's way beyond my ability to do on my own. It has me like trying to block the Nvo driver from loading it boot and doing all this stuff and I'm using Chat GPT totally sucked. Gemin and I was actually quite a bit better in terms of like helping me get it working. I wasted once again, wasted a bunch of time with chat GPT before just using Gemini and it working ultimately way better Um, ChGBT user shares plummeting I saw that. I think they're below fifty percent now, right. Yeahep. So ultimately was like still struggling getting the getting the GV one hundreds working Um And I'm like panicking about this five thousand ninety that's broken now So I actually like I take out the Linux boot drive, I I throw the five thousand niney y on by itself And I'm like, o no, sorry, I left Linuxot drive. I throw thety nine and it's not working by itself either. and I go, holy crap. okay, I need to test this against something else. So I grab my like random old AM four motherboards, like a second gen AM four system. I put it on the bench, I throw the fifty nine in and holy crap, I can't install drivers I'm getting like code twenty nine, this device. The device initialized by the BIOS doesn't match the device Windows is trying to initialize or something like, Oh, no, this has got to be a hardware problem Um off. I like take it all apart again. I find a somewhere Holy crap was was that it? I put it back on. it's still not working. ultimately have no idea what I did, but I put it on again and then it just worked So then I was like, oh my God, okay, well, the last thing I'm going to do is take this apart again. So now to like permanently do these power leads, I am going to do this while it's all attached to the board. So I get the XT one hundred twenty connector. I take out that monstrosity that Luas bolted together with the like six individual leads going into the like the I thing. and I just put those with ample solder straight into the back of the XT one hundred twenty. so I have the power connector on done. It's working. I go back to Linux, I put it on and holy crap, it doesn't show up And I'm like, did I break it So I go back to Windows, I put the card back on, it's working perfectly I go back to Linux and I go, wait, I've got the Volta cards working now. This is great. The five thousand ninet' not showing up. Oh my go You cannot on Fedora At least or maybe Linux at all, I don't know. you cannot have two different versions of the Nvidia drivers You cannot The GV one hundreds need an older legacy driver path And the five thousand ninety doesn't support that, and the GB one hundreds do not support the newer driver. And unlike Windows, where you can have two completely separate GPU drivers You simply One simply cannot We have multiple NVIidia drivers installed.. Yeah, DemMonster says I ran into that. Yeah. Um But you the GV one hundred's working though. But there's good news I kind of went, okay, well, forget the five thousand ninety, mayaybe I don't need it. I've got the GV one hundreds working now So I fired up Odyssey and I was like, oh yeah. like Qen three point six is like the hotness right now. There's all these different like various U like quantitizations and whatever. and so I like download a few of them. and every single one that I go to run iton't it won't like initialize it won't It won't work. And I was like Oh my god It has first generation Tensor cores that just straight up do not support anything anymore Anything new, anything good Does doesn't matter how much VRAM I have, unless I want to run like old ass ancient models They're basically EOL. they're useless. There was no point in me fighting with It' getting them working at all? It doesn't support it at all. It doesn't just go slower. It just literally doesn't support. They literally do not port Um The right I think it's like FP eight. they do not support They do not'd have to I'd have to look at the exact terminology because it was like for me in the morning by this point. I guess I didn't understand it because I thought I thought it would just run it a lot slower No because it wasn't optimized for it. I didn't realize it just wouldn't run it at all. Noope Hm, that has a lot of the fun ideas I had just cooked right off the top. So at this point, I go, well Time to rip those off the bench. The good news is I grabbed that RTX five thousand ninety because and I have now fixed it. So you at least have that on hand? And I have now realized that oh no, I've gotten further since then. And I have now fixed it. I can put that on the bench. I had to scrub the old drivers, which as part of getting the old drivers working, I had like explicitly blocked proper newer drivers from being from automatically loading because otherwise Fedora would try to do that.ure Yeah. So I have to go and unblock it which is like I'm going straight back to Gemini for that because there' ain' no way I remember anything that I did for that I finally Get it working Um And That's where I leftft off. Oh, actually no, that isn't quite where I left off because I also found a water cooled five thousand and ninety that nobody was using from the murder box build. So you're going to have a water cooled five thousand and ninety and A Frankenstein one link together And I am like super to each other. I amm like super, super close. I am hell Ver, very poorly rested this week. but yes, ultimately got them working. It was a total pain in the butt h But you know what I'm glad it it was actually fun Yeah It was probably the most fun that I've had building A stupid with hardware again. Test bench. Yeah. Yeah I haven't had a good reason. This is this is going to blow some people's minds U Remember back when the five thousand ninety launched and there was that whole like saga with me and Ploof Who's going to preorder one? Who's gonna go through with it? You know And and ultimately, he didn't end up taking his pre orer. And I bought it off of him. That was how that was how it ended So probablyroably about a month ago He changed his mind and was like, I want a fifty ninety And I was like Funny coincidence I never installed it Okay literally have been writning A seven thousand nine hundred XTX in my like main rig upstairs that I actually very rarely use for gaming these days Mostly it's just like my I do work at that one. Yeah And I have a thirty eighty Downstairs I had a fifty ninety in my house for literally months Installing GPU's in my computers in fairness to me is Super inconvenient Um with the with Like the lAand machines are those like one you like crazy ones, you need to find a compatible water block, you need to like get in there and get everything all drained out and like probablyroably rearrange the internals in order to get a different shape card in there. It's nightmare. And then in my main rig, everything is everything's water cooled and there's also some like like gunk in it because I never actually cleaned that one out So I would have to go like Pipe cleaner every tube and take apart every block and clean every block before I would want to put a new stupid block in that system so that it doesn't get all gunked up. So in fairness to me, it is super inconvenient to install a GPU for me But I was like Oh, sorry, yeah, you want it back at the price you paid's like Yes, because they've gone I think they've gone up like a thousand dollars US since then or something like that. So I was like, okay. Anyway, coming coming back to that. Um for gaming Like I haven't been motivated to like the thirty eighty is still pretty good seven nine hundred XX,' still pretty good as long as I don't want to turn on ray trace and that's a fast card And so this is like the first time in literally years that I've been like, oh the fastest hard. I just want the fastest hardware And I have how much of it can I shove in there? Like you sent me that photo of I think it was the two GV one hundreds and you had the u What is the name of the I intntel storage thing obptaine? Yeah the Oane drive in there. And like that photo is sick, dude. like I haven't seen a photo like that where I thought it made any sense at all In years, man. I'll so many years. That picture goes pretty hard Like I remember right And it all matters. This is getting me exciting again. It's like this is what modern computing is about. And then you're going back in timees and you're like Are you ready? You guys got. But it is it is fun anyway. Look at that. isn't that? It's two thousand seven. because you look got a VGA connector, like PS two keyboard, maybe, I don't know. This is awesome. Andre you're laying a fan down on top of the GBU You gott to get some airflow or got to get someirflow in there ton of Zap straps This is just cool I love stuff like this That photo made me made me happy I was kind up, man I'm sad about yeah, I guess I just I didn't dive into it enough, but I was I was thinking about If you link three, sorry You can go ahead and show that. Well hold on, We'll let Luke over here. link. Th three ten thousand eightyies together, you get twenty four gigs of VRAM. If you link two ten thousand eighty TIs, you get twenty two gigs of VAM they're so old But you' but if you're running older models, I think you can get away with it. But I what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to make it so my back garage opens automatically when it sees my pink motorcycle Um, So I'm gonna to need some pretty you're not going to be able to let that keep running As you said that on the show now? No, it'll be fine. Because I can also tie it to other triggers. I would never put that on its own. Okay. Yeah. There's lots of other triggers that you can bake into it that people could know that and it wouldn't help them at all. Okay Yeah, so Mike Yeahah, for sure doing that. Yeahah, yeah, yeah yeah I can't I can't Dude, the neighborone just walks by your back garage with a picture of neighbor could ride their little their little trin Exactly. and they open up my garage. abbsolutely. C cool.. So yeah, what you can what you can do is you can you know what? I won't get into too much detail, but there's other there's other gates. that you can set it to have to pass in order for it to actually activate the automation.. And not just that But I want to do a whole bunch of like machine vision based automations because that was kind of whole idea of wiring up my house with all these like cameras and stuff. Like why am I ever manually opening the Sonos app That crazy with all the tech that I piped into that. I think it was like one of the super old school hacker movies I think it was like the guy in the movie who is supposed to basically be Bill Gates but wasn't actually Bill Gates, I think had this thing where whenever he individually was the one that walked into a room, it would play the music that he liked That was like from forever ago. And that I know you can like kind of antitrust. Yeah I trust movie Yeah. Is it actually Bill Gates or is it just supposed to be someone who's like him? It's like obviously supposed to be him Yeah U Stephven Bills, yeah, sure. But yeah, he had a bunch of like cool home automation stuff. Yeah. I remember thinking about how awesome it would be, but those things have always been like it up pretty flawed I find You could get Sonos playing everywhere. Maybe you could have it start playing if it detected somebody who was in the room, but is it really going to know that it's you? Is it going to know that it's your music specifically because you're in the room? How does it deal when there's conflicts of multiple people in there, Bah? Um, I think I can I think I can I won't be fussy enough that it has to be you know, me necessarily? Sure. And I think I I think I can It'll be enough for me if the system just even gets used. Because right now the friction of the Sonosap kind of sucking and not having that convenient casting like it used to have with Google Play Music. is enough that it gets used, but not nearly as much as I would like for it to Like I could see something like the backyard as simple as Hey, if you see people back here play nineties' greatest hits. Just at all. because usually that's what we'll put on if there's like a pool party or something. And someone can override it if they want, but it to starts playing something. Just use the damn thing. Yeah. Just start playing something Dan, you can go ahead and throw up my amazing solder bodge jobs. Believe it or not, this is actually better than what we had. So there was no capton tape or there was just capton tape in between that red and black terminal before Both wires were red And they were so heavy and so stiff that they put a ton of strain on these like flat ors that were coming out Also that little green wire Everything is now shrink wrapped which is a massive improvement. and a lot of the just like Burnination on here is from the first time around U Yeah, look at that discoloration just above it. Y Yep. That's crunchy. Yep. okay, I'm not gonna lie. Some of that discoloration is from when I was melting off the old like freaking pea worth of solder that was on that that was just sitting on that connector. There's a there's a shot of it like now cleaned up and finished. There you go That's what it looks like now. You compare that to what was in the video. this is a, I promise you, Mondo improvement Yeah. And then there's a picture of the Chickies Yeah, you got some helpers. Wow. That's cute. That's probably gonna be my house soon. Just hanging out and hanging out with the drive sleds You can't get three. You gott to get like fifteen, you know that loop, right? Well, what might save us and Emma, if you're listening what might save us is like, I mean they could bring u bird born things that could hurt our birds, you know, maybe Maybe they're babies. So like The only bird that' ever be born anywhere near is yours. Stp U I mean, that's just how infectious diseases work. Oh Oh right Yeah h Yeah, that could be a big problem. Yeah, thanks Who did? totally covered you? Is it not you who say first one The first one Okay, so for Speaking of malware, for reference It's kind of Yeah, that's what it looked like before. So wow terrifying. Yeah, so you could see how stiff the wires were. Yeah, wow. And they were super heavy. So they were putting all that strain on the world's sketchiest solder job that was even worse than what I just did and showed you. And this is supposed to be better than the two by twelve or whatever it is. Well, it's it doesn't I mean, it won't melt the connector. I can tell you that much. c' going're going look at it wrong. It's going to snap off and it's going to go into the fan and then there's sparks everywhere Yeah and your house burns down. And then if if you move your mouse up a little bit, You can see how we just had the four pin sense wires. them see them across the fan there To the right. Oh yeah. Yeah. so we just had them mine kind of running okay offff of the stubs of the old connectors. So I did that little green wire instead to just bridge it, which is definitely better. And then under all that electrical tape that's between the power supply connector up There you go. under that was O each six terminations going into one giant with eyes like with with a whole like donoughuts on them, like I don't know what to call them other than like an eye Kind of like an eye hook, but flat for, you know, sure Yeah, ye. I don't know what those connectors are called The point is six stacked like washers and then onene giant washer on the other side and then like them bolted together just like sandwiched together by a big bolt. It was scary. So my new one, the cable hits a max after a one hour firm session of about forty eight. forty nine degrees. which apparently is within range. anyywhere from like forty five to sixty is considered normal for the twelve volt two by six cable So we could. So I still have the XT one hundred twenty big yellow thing is still there, but it doesn't put nearly as much strain because it's not like hanging a foot over top of it like out into the into the void Th silicon wires are nice too. Love those Yeah. Big difference Um So did you get it actually running? Not yet I this was like Not last night because Hacksmith and Plasma Channel came over last night, but the night before. I dude It's so The world is so funny. U, I had never heard of the pllasma Channel. until two weeks ago at ComputeX I did a video on an onic cooling fan thing And the comment section of that video was just flooded with plasma channel. you collab with plasa channel, plasm channel' like pllasma channel U this one hereah. Yeah And so I'd like never heard of them until that moment. And then James messages me yesterday morning. He's like, Hey, we happen to be in town and we got nothing going on. I'm here with like plasma channel. didn't really ring a bell yet But they just show up they show up in the evening after a pool party for my daughter. and And I kind of go, like finally start putting it together And he's like mentioning what he does on his channel and how he's like super into that I'm like No, like you're you're like really into onic Ionic fusters and Ionic fans and stuff. He's like, oh, yeah, that's like, that's like my thing. And I'm like Wait You're the guy that everyone was telling me that I needed to meet. Two weeks two weeks from me accidentally making a video about an onic thruster And him sitting in my backyard trying Ukrainian Borsch for the first time because my aunt dropped some off, and of course he's just an adventurous guy, I guess. because I showed it to him I'm like, I don't know, yeah, it's like beets and cabbage That's unusual. And he's like, Oh sure ye this is great. So yeah, we hung out We rode Go carts, we played sub ultimate chicken. Hope he sounds exactly like. No, no, no, no. Yeah Well, no basically that. Super nice guy Yeah, suuper nice guy. Like Hacksmith, I've met a lot of times. We've we've hung out known him for years and years. Uh But yeah, pllasma Channel never never met them. They were in town for something. and u I forget where I was going with this, but oh right, that's why I didn't work on it last night So I didn't work on it last night, but I did work on it the night before and I'm at the point of I've I've got models Downloaded and can I'm at the point where I can like tell it, I want it to work across a couple GPUs and I can click like deploy, but it like doesn't, because I'm getting some errors. So I just need to work my way through those errors So I'm getting close to actually being able to interact with my chatbot. And yes, to everyone talking about Frigate. Y, I'm aware of Frigate and I will be using Frigate It' like it's actually pretty lightweight. You totally don't need anything super overpowered. I'm kind of I'm wanting to figure out the cutting edge software and I see no reason if I mean, if the GPUs were just sitting there anyway I'm seeing no reason not to not to use them. I wish I had a picture. I was looking for this earlier of how I of how I have the water cooled one set up But the whole thing is pretty janky I find it interesting that you Stuck with Linux because Odysseus works on Windows. Yeah, but I don't feel like that's the right way to do it. I agree and I respect that you stuck with Linux and I don't even think that's being like Linux pill, this is effectively a server Yeah You should you should try to it on Linux. In my perfect world, right? I am not running Odysseus on my desktop anyway. No, this is yeah. Everything that I said inx at the end of Linux challenge about for my job kneading to daily windows is still true And so here actually I have a here, this is for my security camera just and that's done U, so all everything that I said is still true. But in my perfect world All of this stuff Like my local LLM stuff or like, you know, Evonne's helper for kid scheduling, like or whatever agent that I have chipping away on finally finishing that cat project or you know, whatever Right? Like whatever's running. would be in the server rack. Yeah. It wouldn't be my daily driver machine anyway. You could communicate with it through like discord. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So there's no reason for it to be my daily driver desktop anyway Okay, yeah. so that's it This is the current state of things right now. So you can see the squeeze bottle is still there from having just filled that radiator tower that's next to it. Yeah. That's actually the heck is that? Could be a problem. That's the Bixki external Rad box that we did a video on a while back where Alex and I found that it had a fundamentally flawed design. You can actually see in the very top where there's w fill ports. There's a black one at the back and then there's a silver one next to it. Yeah. Alex and I found the fundamental flaw and so I took it home and I fixed it You have to put a second fill port in it so that there's somewhere for the air to go when you fill it because otherwise it took me and Alex like, Quite literally hours to fill this thing because there was no way for the air and water to exchange. Now, you can fill it from empty and like two minutes because You can just Put it in the air co. skes fast, man orry I just you found the video. I don't even understand how he does that sometimes. but Oh, Pancratz pointed out, we used it in the ult transrparent PC more recently if you want to see the modified version. I fixed the fill port issue and then I think Justin cut a new like transparent LT panel for it. It actually looks really cool now because there were RGV fans in it, but there was no transparent side panel. And we're like, They did not only put the fans in, but they put the controller in like Bixky, what are you doing brother? U So yeah, so that thing I've had it at home so that I can put the one U machines on the bench. becausecause all the water coming in from the pool that cools those machines is over by the rack. and that's not a good place to work on them when there's, you know, an issue or whatever. So it allows me to take them off the bench and then and then hook them up to something So right now I won't be able to do that. So I'm probably going to have to come up with a more permanent solution for cooling that GPU. but I think I'll do that after I actually determine that I can do anything useful with this thing. But for now, yeah, I've got the two hundred fifty ninet s in there. Sapphire Rapids is PCAE G fiveallyast. So they can communicate over PCE genen five at least. That's better than nothing. It's got two hundred fifty six ges of RAM, fifty six coreP or something like that. So it's like ridiculously powerful. And then so what I want to do is without hardware bottlenecks I want to just kind of figure this stuff out. likeike I used to have fun with it, you know Like how I was messaging you about this too, but that's why I'm so excited and it sucks that everything cost so damn much. but that's why I'm so excited about locally hosted AIs. It iss just kind of fun again. Those ancient ass GV one hundreds are still going for like two grand on eBay. Well this this is why and I wonder, I'm sure you can run something on them. Oh, I'm sure you can. No I don't I don't mean those. U what is interesting to me is that at ten thousand eightyies of like one hundred bucks That's that I I figured that out So I was loaning one to a buddy, and he gave it back and I was like, you don't have to give this back to me He's like, Well, it's worth something. and I looked into it and it was one hundred bucks And I was like, well That's kind of interesting really Because that's the cheapest way that I can think of that you can get twenty four gigs of VAM is trapping three of those together. And there's a lot of ten thousand eighties floating around. Um Okay, hear me out. 'm going send another I'm going send another picture to Dan if I can find it Shoot, I took this picture I took this picture at Computex U already broken one hundred and four scenes We're at records now. one hundred four scenes. Yeah, I have one hundred and four. Do you not clean them up? No, I need all of them. Oh. U Okay, that's a little unexpected. Shoot, I can't find it, but I found a company that may o, I found it Okay So it sounds to me, Luke Like you need One of these Yeah someone's also bring up RTX Titan. I'm pretty sure I message line this about specifically RTX Titans because they're There are two thousand series cards that have twenty four gigs of VRM which is like insane. How fun, how much Okay, even if it's like crappy How much fun would it be to do a build? Dan throw it up Zoom in on the top right one What is this Oh my God. How much would you love to fill that with like ten eightyies? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven Oh that's fun ton? It's about twenty. So you could do about twenty ten twenty ten eight s on that Jeez I mean, I At that point in time, you're getting into the range right You have enough money That you should probably just have bought something else. It be it would be bottlenecked to crap because to. I would imagine they would need to go all the way back would be vicious to your system before they and the uplink to that couldn't be faster than like sixteen X or at most thirty two X anyway Yeah That seems like Yeahah, someone else is saying crypto miner motheroard. Yeah, it feels like more like that. That's not a motherboard. mining ye. No, that's no, no, that's like enterprise stuff. That's not for that's not for crypto mining. I wonder what they're using it for. Lots of GPU's apparently. Yeah, but what applications? I'm not sure I meant to contact those guys after the show. I haven't gotten around to it yet. B Bat countountry five seconds per token sets of ten eightyI S liibridge. Okay, relax. Yeah relax. The whole idea is why I wanted to check out the RTX Titan and the ten eighty is because they're I actually don't know how much ourT. Rod says this is like running raid on floppy discs. manan Apparent I read something somewhere that I think it was like Five eighty or something was the first card at NVIDia that NVidia was like messing around with Um, AI applications stuff. It's like quite a while ago actually Oh, like the second couout de card, like that fiveing. Yeah. yeah. o ye. which is which is Interesting. Obviously, none of the models that like matter are necessarily going to run on that. but it's interesting and that's kind of what sparked my interest of like, how far back could you go It is it is a little Sad, how are they still worth anythingthing? Anything. Yeah. There's a water cooled one that someone wants two hundred dollars for. It's not gonna happen. Got some bad news for you bro These fittings are worth about as much as this card. Yeah. The scrap copper is a significant amount of You're saying that now you want to buy twenty of them. So like you're gonna just one, two, here's two So we find more Hydrocopper One and a half gigs of VRAM each they're all going for a bunch. Yeah, there's no one no one's buying these for them New inbox. What even what is this thing? This isn't five hundred eighty. This is something else RT Ohh, this is R TX something. Oh, this is just a water block. Okaykay Hilarious Hilarious Oh yeah, some one found two GTX five eight s in SLI are responsible for the AI we have today. S en Huang revealed that the invention of deep learning began with two flagship Firermi GPU's in twenty twenty. That's crazy U yeah. so that that made me think like how far back can we go while still pushing the VRAM limiter to models that can still be helpful. And you know what? maybe mayaybe you don't get to the sick new models, but maybe you still can run something pretty helpful. Like I wouldn't be too surprised if some of your home automation stuff could be run on much more simple. Oh it could a hundred percent of some of that stuff could run on like a ten or sorry, a ten could run on like probably a thirty, sixty, thirty seventy. So a big part of the reason that I wanted to run the newer stuff though, is I want to be able to do aentic stuff. No, yeah, absolutely. I'm just and like both honestly, the whole spectrum is really interesting to me. Yeah. Like, you know, having some like really insane hardware at home and doing some really cool stuff. or I've been talking about this forever. Mainframe style things, obbviously it's not mainframe. I just really like using that terminology. and I think it gets the point across of what I'm trying to describe, even though it's not the thing. But mainframe style big AI servers for local company use. Yeah. That's also very interesting to me. Wicked hardware at home. I'm planning on getting something. it won't be two hundred fifty ninet s, but I'm planning on getting something pretty beast. t have the hardware locked down yet, but working on it. Stay of the past says agents are crazy. I'm having a hard time focusing on schoolwork because I just keep wanting them to do more shit Yeah Give it, give it a Give it access to some voice thing and then invite it to a discord call interact with it that way. Ver fun. One of my buddies was talking to me about how he did that and he would just like he could message it on Discord, but sometimes it would be easier because he's working on something to just have it join the Discord call than he could just ask it questions that way That's nuts, dude. That's crazy. And that was honestly a while ago, but this guy Silas you're out there.s he's been on the edge of things for a long time. But but yeah, I'm also interested kindind of down on the other end of the spectrum on like, what can I get done Like if if I just finally or maybe I'm holding on to my ten thousand eighty and I'm planning to finally upgrade when the six thousand series comes out What do what do I like, you know like machine God warhammer strap my ten thousand eighty into now to make it just keep doing work. R Yeah. what can I still glean out of this thing? It's continued to play games this whole time somehow. What can I now make it do? Without having done anything with it in full ignorance, I feel like you could probably do a decent amount with these with, you know, some smaller models. Maybe you find a couple of your buddies are also upgrading off ten thousand eighty s or you find a couple on Facebook Marketplace for eighty ninety, one hundred bucks. And you strap a couple of them together, like what can you do with sixteen gigs of V RAM and two ten eighty s Um It's interesting. We're going to try to mess around with some of that stuff with the lab and see what happens. but Um But kind of taking our time a little bit, making sure we know what we're doing. U but it should be good Exciting Uh Oh, Dan says I'm supposed to do the float plane announcement now. Oh my Godd, we have so many topics Oh no, wait, what? no, we already did that, Dan Oh, sponsors one and two The show is brought to you by Op Manager Nexus. 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Battle for Bikini Bottom on the original Xbox. found that by deliberately smudging the game disk with grease and sweat, they were able to enable a time saving glitch This glitch is called a leg clip and is done by rapidly pausing and unpausing, which makes the laser skip. as it seeks the menu music, which opens up level skipping opportunities. Two speedrunners, Shift and Zim, after much effort and time Found out the winning smudge pattern. It was eight grease strokes radiating from the disc's center like flower petals enough to cause a glitch. without making the disk unreadable. Optimizing your grease patterns. is so sick. The most gamer move of all gamer moves A former champion, H G pattern sucks, bro. There's got to be a new greaseless category. one hundred percent greaseless Greaseeless they play on Greasy Pal. Oh my God. A former champion Handle Swag Master Doritos revealed I clean my discs via licking them, then using a pillowcase to wipe and clean. Lic them. Which also allowed him to leg clip throughout the game The time So my Mastter Dorito's licking his disc. And then using a pillowcase to wipe it clean. What brand? is so awesome The top speed running community Holy crap has since abandoned the disc trick. Now everyone runs the game from the Xbox hard drive, citing leg clip inconsistencies and the ethics of damaging , you can't leave swwag Master Doritos out of this. I told you there is a greless category. Right. there is literally a greaseless category. but I do I feel like I feel like you got to acknowledge The greasers man You got to acknowledge. How can you go fast is work? Without grease, sir. Yeah. Yeah. You got to grease it Wow. that's u I actually wasn't prepared for how cool that was. All right, I got something else that's Actually, you know, okay, maybe not cool, but definitely better than what we had before Remember when Copilot plus PCs launched? And Like the whole selling point was that you needed a fancy dedicated NPU on your laptop processor to get local AI, which If your me seemed pretty stupid When you already had a whole bunch of Tensor cores or AI cores or ficaking Cuda cores, some kind of, you already had a bunch of stuff in your computer already. Bically nothing ever used the NPU anyways. Well, Microsoft is quietly testing a way to run those same features on a regular old discrete GPU This ch ye, right the way it probably should have been from the start. This change was spotted by Windows latest in the GitHub repo for the experimental Windows app SDK two point two, which now lets the language model APIs run on NVvidia, RTX thirty series or newer cards that have at least six gigs of VRM. It is strictly developer facing now. It only works if you're on the Windows insider experimental channel with deeveloper mode turned on, and Microsoft warns the whole thing could change or disappear in a future release. Of course Um, I try f over there. When Microsoft launched Copilot Plus PCs in twenty twenty four, the whole pitch was you needed a special machine with at least forty tops NPU to get these AI features. But the irony is that NPUs were never actually more powerful than GPUs for this stuff. They're just power efficient, which matters for laptop battery life Not very much for a plugged in desktop with a gaming card For now, this only covers the language model API layer, things like text summarization, rewriting and editing, the headline coopilot plus features like click to do and Recall are still NPU only This lines up with Microsoft's messaging at builduild twenty twenty six, where it dropped the C pilot plus branding and talked about AI running across CPUs, GPU's and NPUs Adoption of Copilot plus PCs reportedly lagged because people didn't want to buy new hardware for features they saw as gimmicks. And even Adeell Eec admitted at CES that consumers just plain weren't buying laptops because of AI Yeah Yeah, especially when like I really think most people are interacting with LLMs through a chat window in a browser The vast majority of people. and I'm the o, we should have more local stuff guy. And I'm saying that Like it's it's just it's just reality, man Our discussion question is Microsoft spent two years telling people they needed a new NPU equipped processor for these AI features. and now graphics card people can just Do it with their stupid GPU that they already freaking own Was the NPU requirement ever really about capability I mean Clearly not, as far as I can tell Big part of it had to do with partnerships between Microsoft and the hardware guys The the labs team was going around to a bunch of events for a while and they were talking about how do these cool new AI things with their various chips. and I'm saying they because I'm talking about a variety of dr companies Um And a very common question from us was like, runun on the NPU. Can it run in the NPU? and it is always like No Okay what is this thing for? Why do you keep telling me about's better and faster now? And then nothing runs on anyways. And then like it's just recall. I don't want that. It's like basically the only thing that I know of that can run on this hardware that I bought. Yeah is something that I don't want J' like, just get rid of it G way, it's great. It's efficient. cool. You already have the efficiency cores Just do more of those, I guess More cash. Give me more cash. That'd be great. Give me anything. Literally. Literally anything. Just not that. my God. Oh, here's a fun one. DualSense PC gamers finally get haptic support. That's cool. Though no thanks to Sony. Sony DualSense controllers haptics now work on PC over Bluetooth ending the long standing requirement to plug the controller in via USB This breakthrough comes from DSX, whose new beta can expose a virtual dual sense to games, allowing supported titles to send native haptics effects wirelessly The DSX beta doesn't just enable wireless haptics, it also adds Bluetooth controller audio support for the dual Sense on PC, so audio features tied to the controller can also work without needing a wired connection. Still, it is worth noting that this is a third party solution and Sony has not delivered native wireless dual senseapptics for PC. So All right, in classic PC fashion, the community ended up solving the problem on its own, Which actually leads me not to our discussion question for this one, but to something else entirely that I want to talk about. was The reviews of DSX are pretty mixed. Yeah, I've heard that.. David said that plugged in is still the more reliable way to do it, but it isn't beta. So that's why I wasn't going to go at them too hard about that. sure. So Yeah Make of that which will. The DSX software looks like it's not in beta. Maybe that features in beta. I think so hold on. the notes say CSX beta doesn't just enable wireless haptics it also adds Bluetooth controller audio support That's g best on the notes U But yeah, I think it was actually David I was chatting with about this And um, You know how we've talked about how there's going to be like a great e wasastening? coming because it used to be that enterprise hardware could be repurposed for consumers like, you know, those old like Zon motherboard chip combos that you could buy on like AliExpress and stuff Um, I had a bit of a had a bit of a brainstorm slash Moment of hope that maybe these proprietary closed systems that exist now instead of that stuff that can be repurposed. Maybe there's a path to it Hear me out for a second One of the challenges to repurposing like Zons and epic processors that are going into servers these days for gaming rigs is that The motherboards use these proprietary form factors that are basically unusable Um, you know, for desktop purposes, like a lot of them, they won't even have PCIE slots on the main motherboard because it goes out to like a riser that's like way over off on the other side of the chassis or they're using. Or they're using, you know, PCIU over cables to run to or they're using like mezanine cards or you know, whatever, like completely not desktop stuff Um It got me kind of thinking. Where did the boards come from in the first place for those for those like old Zon you know, Frankenstein machines. It was it was It was from enterprising usually Chinese companies with some help from Russian firmware writers taking the motherboards, hacking chip sets out of them, and then completely remanufacturing them. So Hold on Let's keep going again. Another thing that is going to sort of cause this great e wasastening is that many Pieces of enterprise hardware are no longer even running X eighty six They're running like Amazon's graviton arm based CPUs or AMms own what do they call them their're AGI line of CPUs We're watching in real time. Linux gain not just Gaming compatibility But also arm compatibility at a rapid rate. We're watching Windows gain arm compatibility, although I'mess hopeful about these weird CPU's working on Windows. U What's the Linux project that's still working on Apple Silicon compatibility Oh yeah, I don't know the nameam of top of head, but there is one I'm trying to I'm trying to remember what it is Asahi, Asahi Linux is still working on porting Apple silic. and I believe they've booted. likeike they've made significant progress. It's not like fast or super usable yet. Hear me like that I think it's Japanese like beer brand Hear me out point Wh this boom purchasing that is going on right now is starting to reach end of life and is going to be making its way into the wild, into the disposal slash reseller ecosystem, right? Its value will be very low because there won't be really anything to do with it So Tes of enterprising individuals and you know East Asia who Did cool things before, I see you've actually What else entirely going on over there. It's cool We'll get to that in a second. we'll have this glut of basically discarded hardware Over that like five years from now period Support for arm and gaming and Linux, especially will get way better. Is there a possibility the GPUs are going to be mostly useless for gaming anyway, but might be usable for HomeLab, I guess, but we've got these like weird Ter form fact that's okay. so that's what this is about. Oh this is Evy link to PCIE Madness, basically Um that I had I had heard Wait, sorry Th these are SMX O sorry, SXM, excuse SXM V SXM to T PCIE slot. Is that what I'm looking at here through two cables, something. I haven't exactly dove into this, but I heard about this. So they don't have direct three D at all from my understanding. So they won' this won't be a solution for gaming No But to be able to use them for home lab or, you know, like maybe it's not going to be that bad Running local models or whatever. I think we'll be able to do something with this stuff. Yeah. I'm pretty confident considering this is already happening Yeah. I'm pretty confident that there's going to be some because I was feeling really doom and gloom about it Like all these CPUs are basically going to be garbage, but like Epic, Epic's an SOC I think a lot of people don't actually realize that Epic doesn't have a motherboard chipset You can add features to it, you can add IO functions that would normally be handled by like a motherboard chips set to it. But you don't have to. The memory controller is R on the chip. Everything you need to operate that chip is right on the chip And so Nothing would really prevent you. epic chips were cheap enough, if they were worthless enough Nothing would really prevent an enterprising individual from creating a motherboard for it, kind of like they have that I'm aware of, anyway Um three D Pro says SXM two is old. don't C SXM five to PCIE yet. No, you don't see it yet But what we're talking about is this this AI buildout boom that's happening right now. The money that will be involved in that will be enormous. And there hasn't exactly been a lot of SXM five hardware that's just like, Yeah, not yet. flooding the Not yet Be nobody nobody is decommissioning those systems yet. There's no GPU supply yet Yet, though There will be a time And that stuff from today will still be pretty useful. Like everything that you can do with an LLM today Like an enterprise grade one, you'll be able to do on this now discarded grade hardware because the frontier models will have moved way past it And if they want to have any hope of monetizing it, they're not going to be running five, six, seven year old GPU's So I don't know. I just I had a moment of Maybe this isn't going to be great, but it's not going to be as bad as I thought And found I found a couple boards that claim to be SXM five, blah blah blah. I don't know if any of this is legit. Even in the slightest, it's on eBay massive question marks everywhere, but Um When this would be more kind of viable, you know I believe pretty strongly in the entnterprising abilities of people staring down the barrel of an incredible amount of extremely valuable currently unusable hardware that they can get their hands on for practically nothing, and if they could adapt it to something, they could sell for tons There's so much incentive there, I believe someone will figure it out Speaking of incentivive, at that point just use the frontier models at twenty dollars a month I feel like you maybe haven't been paying attention to the news, sir. dollars a month. twenty dollars for five minutes of tokens, maybe? It's been Especially when your agents are off there spending tokens on your behalf. it' Dude. It's been very interesting looking at the control panels of thingsings like GitHub Because the oh, by the way, the tokens cost an incredible amount and also unlimited whatever all happened while I was away It's okay It's all right not only did we already have a cap on it on the org level, so it was al right. But also all of the full plane developers were like, wow, that's scary and just like didn't really use it till I came back. So everyone was cool And also there was a safeguard in place so it was all right U So both things were true But yeah, the full plane crews got your back, they didn't spend a billion dollars while you were gone. Yeah, it nice it's nice to have team members who Look, I've always said, I've always said it. I don't mind spending money I will spend money. You guys have seen me spend money I don't like wasting money And it's nice to have people who are on board that like, hey Yeah And if they need to use it Let's talk about that. and they've used it a little bit, but it's mostly like I find the inline IDE usage of this stuff to be very different than blah blah, blah, anyways, they have a different form of using it than just like chat botting There man. it is There was a screenshot of someone who did like, I think it was like five different prompts and it costed over fifty bucks. using some of the like nicer models It's u We're getting into the find out range of things. Not completely everywhere, but like and o man, The chatter. I feel like this has been like The first time the door really opened to like, we're gonna start charging you for stuff Um, but the chatter that's already happening about people starting to run models locally because You know, as much as AWS has gotten a lot of companies used to just like open bills. Basically, like things can just they'll just cost whatever they cost. invvoice me, daddy. As much as much as AWS has gotten people used to that. Th these AI models and the ability for individual employees to spnd to just cross your wallet J just so easily. and in a way that might be genuinely a mistake, in a way that might be malicious, but they can show in ten trillion different ways that it stupid and useless Or just stupid and useless, or just you know, just the huge range of things that could make it cost incredible amount money or for things that they're actually ultimately doing personally. And you might put a cap But you might put an org wide cap and then that person spends the whole orgs cap orr you might do individual user caps, but this user might on day one of the month spend their entire budget through a mistake and then you give them more budget and blah blah blah, who knows. But there's been a lot of conversations about like, you know what's a fairly fixed or at least measurable because of the energy power. hardware that you own. Yeah Almost like hardware that you own was always the better deal. if You could afford it up frront Because renting has always made sense in the context of I buy it And you might why want to come the default? You might still want to do that. Be every once in a while you might want the the incredible potential of a frontier model Um But a lot of the time, I don't know, not really all that necessary you can just run it on your own, especially if you're just asking it to like Oh, hey, I'm working with this new API. I've never worked with it before U how would I do this? Can you find the documentation for this for me? And then it's giving you the documentation. Like if you're learning, if you' using it as like a learning accelerator One of the people on the team was talking about how they don't they don't like using its output. They don't like using it that way, but they might use it to help get them to U you know, find that documentation for me, then they can learn it themselves or whatever. You don't need some crazy frontier model for that. No So Whatever Js use the cheaper one that they have locally Hey, I've got another cool thing Mister, there's no good news this week With demand for DDR four platforms rising, Intel is rumored to be preparing Raptor Lake next. for release in early twenty twenty seven. The Raptor Lake Next series would exist side by side with Nova Lakeake to help meet demand for both DDR four and DDR five platforms respectively This speculation comes as many vendors are increasing production of DDR for motherboards Due to the inflated costs of DDR five that are making LGA eleven fifty one and AM five unaffordable It comes on the heels of AMD announcing a re enineered Ryzen seven five thousand eight hundred X three D anniversary edition, with Team Red expecting DDR five prices to remain high for at least the next couple of years. The good news spin on this one is I don't know if you guys remember this from back when DDR five launched But DDR five ain't that much faster than DDR four for gaming workloads. Yeah. There are places where DDR five is a big benefit Businesses may ultimately have to spring for expensive DDR five, but Every gamer who doesn't need to buy DDR five might help to to balance the current situation and help keep things overall a little more affordable David and I were working on a compomputer Yeah That was meant to compete with a different computer recently ye Yeah. And we actually talkks through, hey DDR four or DDR five. And right now one of the challenges is that while DDR four is about half the price of DDR five at sort of a similar tier. So if we were looking at like a six thousand megarfer DDR five and like like a like a three thousand two hundred, you know, kind of lowish latency kit, I'd say there's kind of our equivalents or so It's about half the price And motherboards on the DDR four side are actually still substantially cheaper. But where you're running into trouble is there aren't great options for like gaming CPU's for DDR four Even AMD's released five thousand eight hundred X three D is Pret prettyty darn expensive Yes. It doesn't match. I was really surprised at how expensive it was. The I'm buying an old platform so I could save money vibe. Yeah at all. Like at all. It's a few hundred bucks, isn't it U yeah I think it's like three hundred I think it's three hundred twenty nine US. If I recall correct. don't quote me on that. The US on that, really? Yeah So it's like four hundred four hundred four hundred fifty bucks almost. My I like that yeah Um, throwing more supply onto the pile is always a good thing. More competition is always a good thing. three hundred and fifty USD. So seeing Intel Come back into the game could put pressure on AMD And again, the more people who are like, okay I'm going to buy some DDR four stuff the less pressure there is on DDR five And DDR four is not necessarily using the se cutting edge fabs. That TDR five would You can get decent DDR four out of Chinese vendors like CXMT, who actually is also making TDR five now The more we can use the supply from the various sources that we have it better it will be for keeping pricing from byiraling completely even more out of control Um so I'm I'm bullish on this I think it's pretty cool But hey, What do I know? I was bullish on the new leadership at Xbox. So Well actually I was bullish. I was cautiously willing willilling to watch and see if things went well. And so far it's not looking that great So what' spepeaking of watching and seeing if things went well, Snap specs alive twenty two hundred dollars augmented reality smmart glasses announced along with availability and The highly wearable, I believe they said glasses U kind of the opposite of that Look like lookook at his poor ear. Bricks on your face. Look at what happened to this man's poor ear. Wow Fascinating Oh, I mean look If you're gonna wear Doofy ass smart glasses, they might as well look like that. as well This is this This is like I embrace My frickin Bottle bottle glass thick, freaking giant rimmed glasses This is me. I apologize to no one for anything. I can respect it. I wouldn't want to wear them, but can I can respect it Hilarious sorry you were saying Uh Is this Snap like the app? Yeah Yeah, that I forgot they were doing this. Yeah I remember this was announced forever ago. but anyways, at the recent augmented World expxpo, Snap revealed specs of their first fully standalone U Why is this' called specs, Their first fully stand lone Air glasses aimed at regular consumers The specs will run you twenty two hundred USD and preorders are open. U setet to ship this fall in the US, UK and France. Notably, Snap is the first to actually sell standalone true AR glasses, beating meta, Apple, and Google You can probably see why if you look at them as you can use these to place virtual objects and interfaces into the real world and are fully standalone. They arere running Snap OS Snap's proprietary platform, What a weird world that Snapchat is the company doing this, but whatever the specs have As far as specs go Two quQualc snapdragon chips, one dedicated to computer vision and spatial awareness and the other one to run the user interface. an in house liquid crystal on silicon LCOS display with an FOV of fifty one amazing degrees. one hundred thirty two grams for the smaller Smer, Smaller's doing a lot of work in this sentence. forty seven millimeter frame, one hundred and thirty six grams for the larger fifty two millimeter version Auto tinting lenses that change states in about ten seconds compompared to meta ray bands that can take around a minute, what P prettyty cool Why does it take so long? I mean, transitions take a little while. I don't know much about how they work to be perfectly honest with you. Yeah, but if it's going through that like, you know, when you apply a charge to it, No, it's not that I wonder what it is U What you can actually do with them real time turn by turn navigation, a floating adjustable web browser, live language translation, gesture control, and spatial AI that answers contextual questions about what you're looking at Snap's demos showed things like car repair help really fast way to wreck your car. Cooking timers and That's an expensive cooking timer. confted yeah. I think I have a microwayer. It's also a really expensive tape measure It also might weigh about the same as a tape measure. Um Wow, fantastic. Thank you. They declined to reveal the specific chip set, display resolution, brightness, refresh rate, or camera details So maybe we'll find out more at some point Um The UK has announced a countrywide ban For social media for people under the age of sixteen, is expected to go into effect the spring of twenty twenty seven and will include apps such as Snapchat TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. One of my kids finally asked me if they could install Snapchat Why whyy is it okay? Is Snapchat like popular with the kids again or something? Okay And I'm actually I have not answered They still exist. I haven't answered yet. Apparently everyone's using it to communicate And uh I'm leaning no. I um I feel like it's one of those things that's just like But why though But also, you know, if all of my friends were on ICQ and my parents told me I couldn't install ICQ, I'd have been like, why are you destroying my social life? Is Snapchat still trying to give you the air of it being Temporal Itound like either of those things. Yeah, neither of those things are super good things. Yeah. The main reason why I don't like the temporal one is Just because you know, maybe your kids will know because it's been communicated Um Not everyone involved in the various conversations would know. Do you mean like impermanent? Yeah Um It's like M. And then kids are dumb So like evenven if your kid knows that it would disappear There you go Um They might trust their friend to not take a screenshot or they might trust the Snapchat software tell them if a screenshot was taken, which is also not A thing. Yeah Um I don't know. I'm kind of tempted to have a talk with them that basically goes There's always going to be another fad Um Like just open up my my social tab and basically go like Here's Here's all of the apps that I have for people to message each other in Um I want you to point at how many you think I have any kind of valuable conversation I think I did mean temporal by the way is I thought it just means pertaining to time or lasting a limited period of time rather than being eternal Does that work? Yeah, I think so. Okay, I wasn't sure it worked in that context. Okay Um I've usually used it as pertaining to time as opposed to temporary Ephemeral is definitely one that works, night of never and flipple chat says. Um I don't know. either way. Yeah, either way. I think we all understood what we're talking about at this point Basically, if you haven't used Snapchhat and I haven't used it in probably a decade or more You can send like a picture And that picture won't always exist. I don't know what the terms are. I don't know if you can open when it goes away O self destructing is another great term for that. Sure. Or if it lasts for like a day or something like that But there's in some way you won't be able to naturally access it through the app anymore. And it has a thing where if you take a screenshot of it, it tells the person you receiveed the message from that you took a screenshot of it. But there are other ways to capture your screen U including just like another phone or a webcam or something else that can take a picture. So yeah, part of the temptation, I think here is going to be to like basically go, yeah, how many of these do you think are are used for meaningful connections. you know, like there's always going to be another another thing Um What is this offering that is not addressed by, you know current Um, you know, current solutions Do you feel this is very important? Why You know, see if we can maybe just kind of talk through it It's tough too, though because like if that is the way that all of their friends communicate None of those arguments are going to matter to their friends. Um, which is tough. No, but I mean I don't know, and maybe this is maybe this is a lot to ask of a youngling But you know, from my point of view to have the conversation at least? If someone won't talk to me, If I'm not on their preferred messaging platform Um thenen I don't really think that that was probably a very deep connection. Um But I can also see that the other way, right If they're sitting there going, well if they won't talk to me on my preferred messaging platform, then maybe they don't care that much U I'm just I'm having a hard time understanding the the necessariness of something like a snapchat or something like an Instagram And maybe this is just me going full boomer here. And I see a lot of y'all You also have to be the really annoying person that doesn't use the thing that everyone else uses though It's not a great place to be socially. Yeah I get that And it helps that they can blame you Yeah It does genuinely. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Sorry, my stupid dad Don't let me have it. Yeah. And whether or not they actually like believe that. is That is a helpful helpful line Sorry, it's I just Fmer over time. I just I can't and this is something that I that I have honestly struggled with basically my entire time using compomuters to communicate. Why the actual do we need so many apps for this Like, trillion seemed like magic. I was like, oh, well this just solves it forever Now I never have to think about it again and then Chilian died. except I think it actually still exists or something, but it It's not really useful anymore because you can't use it to communicate with people across You know, Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp and Instagram DMs and Twitter DMs and like, oh my go, YouTube's gonna have DMs now. likeike what are we even doing What is going on here? I just googled tririllion Yeah and it was like, did you mean trillion the number. There' a go boy still exist U But is business? is this Yeahah, for people, business and healthcare. Wonder if you can link like teams into it or something? Sle in stududios. I think I think this has come up on the show before. I think it has Hilarious I just I can't Yeah, it sucks that Yeah I don't know, Twitter became a platform of politics. because As much as I never liked it at any stage It was the place that like All of the crater people were Mhm So you could always find a link that way. Yep And then Facebook was the place that all your like family members high school and that cohort was that. Yeah. And then between those two, you could kind of like You kind of plug your nose and just yeah, just have them on your phone and you could find people. And one of the problems is discord is where a lot of people seem to be migrating at least, you know, att my age. So they're moving they're moving on from Discord just so you know. like the kids. Yeahep. Yeah. Yeah. o, boomer, Discord. I'm not too surprised. That was only gonna last so long. That's the thing about trends They come and go Temporal. It's not a very deep cut, but's a cut. But the problem with Dcord was the discoverability was crap. Oh yeah. How do you find anybody? I mean, it's like by design, Yeah. Streamer mode, Streamer mode, lock it down. Which in a way was actually really great.ally great. But yeah with discord becoming so divisive sorry with Twitter becoming so divisive, then it like, Okay Cay I got to find this person. They're not on Twitter anymore. I see they said I'm gone now. they on m D they go to Blue sky? That's where their thing said they went, but that account looks like it's abandoned too and then are they on threads A they on mastedon Are they on whatever the heck? How do I find this person Are they on Snapchat? Can I send them a dick They won't screamly shot. They told me they wouldn't. Nobody would lie. Nobody would use an external camera to take a photo of it because Snapchat can't detect that. No one would ever do that. No one would have a rooted device. Nobodyobbody's ever tried to do something bad with information they received in the form of a photo or text message when they're in high school LMG Underscore channel and floatplane chat says Threads is the new dating app. Really? That's weird Stop I got it's strange. I don't even know what to think about that. That's just strange So you shop for for used stuff. on Facebook Marketplace and you shop for used people on threads. With the rel outative dating threads, I'm starting to wonder what direction the app is going. I mean, Facebook figured out that by running marketplace for absolutely for freakaking free They could figure out everything that you were interested in getting rid of or buying Dating threads I mean, what more could meta possibly know about you? What are dating threads? I have no idea. I'm running into I'm running into a ton of profiles that feel like classic dating app bioos. Overly curated, no real post history. And here's the sketchy part. Most of them aren't linked to a real Instagram account. Yeah, that sketchy someome are connected to what looks like fake Instagram accounts that were clearly made to pass the verification check. Okay, that sketchy Alesome eas people they just don't have Instagram No, I think you have to have it. Also some very popular mayaybe they didn't have it before. so was made Instagram to be able to get thad. Also, some very popular threads accounts with thousands of followers are linked to Instagram accounts that only have a few hundred followers. Like isn't the whole point that it's tied to Instagram? Why are these profiles even existing Dating threads an unofficial trend Okay, and garbage Okay, well, at least one person noticed a thing. H Weird Sure All right. I I have no idea. I I think we're not the right people to talk about this. Yeah, dude, I've been married for longer than I existed as an unmarried individual. Yeah. I remembered a fun thing No, that's not right yet, actually, but I've been with the person I married for longer than I have existed as an unmarried individual. That makes sense. I think I've been playing Minecraft for longer than I haven't been playing Minecraft Okay, one of those things Um No. Oh boy Oh man women in Minecraft? likeike is that No. no. Okaykay. I think it's just sad. I see. U I was more supposed to be like a reality hit Yeah. Just how long Minecraft has been out? Oh yeah. Do you still actively play Minecraft? No. Oh o. Okay. I'm not that single. Well it kind of seemed like that's where you were That was your point. No, no, no, no, no. Okay Hness was thinking about marriage versus not marriage. same sort of It Inting still that you went there with it, but distracted when the Wan show is happening. Yeahair Anyway, we weren't actually done with this topic One of my favorite things because just to go back to like there is no security in communications when you're in high school thing. a fun one that was going around my school was that you would send you would tell someone a secret on MSN Messenger But you would use like wingings or whatever And none of the dudes figured this out for a super long time, but the girls knew that you could paste the wings into like word and they just change the file And it it would actually say what it said U So there was a bunch of dudes my school telling secrets to girls and all the girls knew what all the secrets were. And it was I just thought it was hilarious I was like That was very funny I don't actually remember that feature of MSN. MSN had so many cool features. If they just seriously, I've said this before. I'll say it again. if they just brought back MSN Messenger it in its like when they EOL it form today People would use the fuck out of it. They would They would show up in droves. It was so cool. And the funny thing is like low fi, like digital cameras and stuff, like that era is so hot right now Like you could even You could even have the low quality video calling. of original MSN you could literally change nothing but update the security. I bet a handful of Microsoft engineers could vibecode the freaking upgrade. like seriously, just bring it back It will be successful, you're welcome I'd use it I would definitely be interested. Emison Messenger was goaded. It was so good The nudge was peak. Okay, there are some features that I mean, maybe that's how they monetize it They monetize disabling people for nudging you Oh, Jeremin says, what are you even talking about? Microsoft had a messaging app that was just plain Better than anything that we have now. It was actually awesome. No distraction. Oh So good I still to this day will'll screw up and want to send someone a thumbs up emoji and do bracket by bracket and then send it And then I sent someone I don't know. Maybe that converts into some emoji now orr I just send them bracket w bracket and it's just it doesn't mean anything This is amazing. I'm not going to show this, but u My son wore the tie from my wedding for an event tonight looks like an absolute baller. Epic. He does. Okay, I'm actually looking for something here, though. I'm in my chat with Yvonne Um Rackon why bracket still works as emoji and lots of stuff A lot of the stuff I've used it in does not, but that is good to hear Sple. Oh, that's good. I like that What's bragw why, brag' supposed to be this? Isn't that boobs? No, you put a space on each side of the wire for that on now This is this is really annoying. Why is this not working? Okay, do your thing for A little bit. Wait, we haven't finished that topic yet U So obnoxious Um, Well Whatever. Yvon and I still use bracket L bracket. But it just doesn't convert to anything We just you just understand. We just use it. Yeah U And so I'm trying to find it. But what's funny is if you search for that in WhatsApp, it actually finds every instance of the word love Yeah That's Weird actually. Yeah. I mean, that's that's what it meant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um But it's fascinating that it's converting that. Why would it do that? I even put quote you saw, I put quotes around it. Yeah. It's also picking up words like left looking like, but mostly the word It's find Oh no, is it finding any word that starts with an L? Is it finding capapital L? Anywhere that finds with Cital L? No, no, no, I think it's any word that starts with an L. Why is it doing that? Interesting. I'm trying to find something specific, you freaking stupid thing Man, everybody's posting like little Asy Eotes makes me happy. Oh, that's awesome. Remember when you could make custom ones I still have saved on O my Nas The one of the little smiley face with the arms, creeping up behind the other one and then like giving it a hug It's like the cutest thing ever Those were so cool Kirby Dance used to be one of my favorite ones. I'm posting a fullint chat now body to be Oh my god, there's an amonggus amongous I am not going be it turns out that I actually text with my wife a lot Oh. So go go so going through this is gonna It's going to take too long All right Anyway. Yeah, so we like definitely unironically still use that Um We know what's up Okay, anyway, we weren't done that topic. They The UK government will also be looking in more detail at overnight curfews and breaks and infinite scrolling for under eighteen year olds for social media. That one's nice. And they'll set out more details on this in July also want to address so called AI romantic companion chat bots. Nice Nice and we'll hopefully enforce a minimum age of eighteen for.. According to a national survey with more than one hundred sixteen thousand responses earlier this year, more than eighty three percent of parents said the risks of social media outweigh the benefits and ninety percent expressed support for a minimum age of sixteen b. And the kids will get around it, they will Also, a lot of them won't. It'll be less convenient Or maybe it won't But at least we're at least we're Starting the conversation at the very least, I think that is something that is worth doing. at this point. So obnoxious. I can't believe Snapchat's getting popular again. I can't believe Snapchat's still around I can't believe they're making AR glasses. yeah. I thought that was like an unrelated company and they're like, they're actually the Snapchat Okay, what? Okay, I found it As recently as in April Yeah, yeah. There is There is Bracket L Bracket. Yeah That's awesome. Freaking people who used to talk on MSN. Yeah, o dude WeMSN hardcore was crazy Um All right, why don't we What else we got? Oh, this one's cool. Do you w want to talk through this one? AMD brings I collapsed it. Now AMD brings advanced shader delivery across all RDNA GPU's. This is actually pretty exciting. Cutting game looad times down by upime. cent D. AMD and Microsoft are rolling out advanced shader delivery in the Xbox PC ecosystem designed to tackle shader compilation stutter and long first load times in games. I wouldn't even just say first load to be honest. It's all the freaking time so often That computer building video to compare to a different computer that David and I were doing was so frustrating. We ended up waiting around for Sader compilation. I kid you not. F times on set today. It's very annoying. This is genuinely really cool. Honestly, first load, I think you could just kick that out of there. But anyways, instead of compiling shaders on the user's PC during gameplay, shaders are pre buuilt and delivered ahead of time. So games can load faster and run smoother right from launch.. Yeah you just download it. Yeah. how big is it? I didn't think that was possible. I think it's not that bad. Weird. Because Intel was talking to me about this. They're doing it too on the new Ac handhelds Interesting, but how Yeah, I'd love to know more. Me too Yeah. d An AMD tweet said that the ASD reduces shader stutter and load times by up to ninety five percent. The feature is expanding in preview and is now being supported more broadly across AMD RDNA GPUs via new drivers. However, the functionality currently only supports games played through the Xbox app. M Textbots article on the subject says support for Nvidia RTX hardware arrives later this year and Intel has been Also pledge to implement the feure. Hopefully they keep releasing graphics cards Um Yeah, what's the worst load time you can remember experiencing Oh Dude, Halo Infinite, getting that game going with a group was brutal because I swear. everyvery time there was some stupid update, there would be a stupid Eernity of pre comppiling shaders, it was brutal I mean, we had we had Net Nanny and dial up combined, bit terrible combination. And I would try to load Runescape. I've told this story on Wan show before, but it was literally so long. I would load Runescape, go downstairs, make a sandwich and like some peach juice because you still love haveach juice. Um consume all of it, go upstairs and it still usually wasn't doneloading. and it was actually loading and would eventually actually load. So I'm talking double digit minutes. My favorite one though, Um is is Morowind of course because Marowind would completely reboot your Xbox. Storing some of the load screens. It was honestly, there was a lot of tech for Morowin that was fascinating, like placing data on different parts of the disk for load time optimizations and stuff. And yeah, apparently it would like sneakily restart your Xbox. Um, razyome of this, Howard explained had to do with the fol at Xbox tipping Bethesda off about a fewree workks so the hardware greatreat tricks they taught us. favorite one is if you're running the low on memory, you can reboot the original Xbox and the user can't tell You can throw a screen up. Like when Morwin's loading, you get a super long load, That's us rebooting the Xbox. That was the Hil Mary And yeah, it was kind of a known thing for Morwin players. of every once in a while you just get smashed with this like insane load screen. And the thing was like, you know, don't turn the Xbox off or whatever it is working, but nobody like I didn't know this was it rebooting until M years after I that I mean, I've seen it many times where the last frame that was sitting in like the output buffer or whatever is just like still there, even when It's not updating to new frames but I I guess that was That was a feature, not a bug crazy, eh So that that's my favorite one. That isn't the longest one, but man, some of those load times were really long and it makes sense now that the whole freaking system is rebooting and then it's loading what you needed Yeah. Crazy I loved man. I really really used to enjoy watching some like making of things I don't remember if it was more Window Olivione or something, but I remember there was a making of of one of those that was just really awesome to watch. Some of the making of of I think it was probably Halo two Um, But the making of extras of either Halo one or Halo two was just Incredible That's where I learned how they would just they would like intentionally make the like geography of the map that you're on in a way that it would block what you're about to see next because it would load the enemies like right before you got there and it would unload stuff behind you and like all this how they managed, again, just dealing with the memory of these consoles, really Isn't that one I'ming? I think it was like two rocks. No, like. All of the geometry and everything was just two models that they rotated around and scaled. Oh is that Mario I thought that was Mario. Mario did that with clouds. Clouds. Yeah, clouds. I know Halo. it might have been the first one did something very similar Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised Yeah. Oh yeah, no. what you're saying, it's not all the geometry. It's all of the rocks are basically two mountains and stuff and they're they'reushed together. They're ground, so you can't see most of it and they'll rotate it around and stuff. Yeah. I think want to It's just ay tiny one. Yeah, I think that's Halo one. It's just scaled differently. Oh yeah, yeah yeah. Um Halo onene. I'm pretty sure that was Halo One. Halo One roockcks mightight even be one. I don't I don't remember that those was a while ago I don't remember. There's some really good ones about thiss good minini Doc on YouTube about racing the beam if you're talking about Mario, because all of the game logic has to happen before the beam starts because Like You only have so much time to manipulate it as it's going down the screen every fifty or sixty seconds, right That's kind of funny. Oh, it's halo three No way, not he three. I thought it was her. Oh, racing the beam. God Noki's fast. What the hell? D Noki is wicked fast. That's insane. No, that that's a great video if you want to if you have any interest in like All right, we've got a couple of quick.o sorry, one last. Halo three playler discovers every single rock in one of the game's most memorable levels is the same rock It's just rotated, scaled and moved around Like that kind of stuff is instant wicked man. Instance insties, baby. I love that stuff Anyways Are there pictures of this pretty boroying pictures is' all the same rock. Well yeah, but I want to see like how they use them and stuff. Yeah Yeah yeah, yeah, I was just m U let me see if I can so here it is So every one of these rocks is the same rock. which is rotated and scaled and turned around That's hilarious. I would never I would never know that. Yep And you know maybe a different amount of it is jutting out of the ground? Yeah And you only have to load one rock Yeah Pretty awes. You you can just instance it with Size and rotation and you're done. So cool Amazing. L stuff like that. Like when I learned that thing with Super Marbros and the clouds and the grass are the same, it's just recolored Fantastic There's also a really good mini doc about the SEGa logo, I think on the original Sonic, because the console couldn't produce that type of like screen update resolution. So what it's actually is it's like four videos playing simultaneously And then what they do is they break it into different scan lines and different colors And then they swap the color buffer because it can only display so many colors, which gives you like quadruple the frame rate So your animations can be even smoother because it couldn't physically process that amount of information that fast. what the hell? It's like it's nuts, It's so cool I love stuff like that All right, I got a couple quick ones here. Researchers at UC San Diego, backed by Google, have figured out how to turn retired smartphones into low cost data center hardware The pitch rests on a surprising fact A phone from three years ago still delivers higher single core performance in spec benchmarks than server CPUs like dual AMD Epics that are found in real data centers The servers crush the phones on total throughput In terms of per core the mobile chips actually hold their own process strips each phone down to just the motherboard. So your display, batteries, cameras, chassis all come off. Um And Android gets replaced with a standard data center Linux distro. The boards get networked into self managing clusters of twenty five to fifty units running Kubernetes Of course.. roughly twenty five to fifty phones Match the compute of a single dual socket server CPU and a twenty phone cluster can already serve an app for a class of seventy five plus students Google frames this around embodied carbon The motherboard alone accounts for about fifty percent of the phonone's manufacturing emissions and people replace phones roughly over four years. With Google's support, UCSD plans to scale up to two Thousand phones. in a data center launching fall twenty twenty six that could support one hundred classes at once all on hardware that would otherwise be e waste. Dude, that's awesome. It's super cool. I don't know how scalable it is, but it's really cool. two thousand phones It's not even that many foames actually in terms of like the sheer volume of phones that exist that people are just Not using and don't care about anym. Like look at the Neil, like you can do incredible things with processors. one hundred percent. I was doing I was doing I was talking to Wendell about space stuff And we were talking about the Mercury era. we talked about data centers in space? No So We were talking about the Mercury Aera emissions and he was mentioning offhand, I haven't verified this or anything, but it's Wendall also. But he was mentioning offhand about the transistors in your phone Now is amounts to a higher number than all of the transistors in the world at that time That's pretty cool, That's pretty cool. Yeah, brain too small to think too much further now, but that's pretty cool Illinois looks like they might become the first state to ban drivers from wearing smart glasses. This is just pending Governor JB Pritzker's signature, meaning it should become law in the coming weeks if he signs it. The bill's supporters say the glasses can display information, messages or other content directly in a driver's field of view, making them a new form of distracted driving as these devices become popular. Critics argue that the bill is a blunt instrument and that not all smart glasses are equally distracting, and enforcement could give police broad discretion to stop or question drivers based on their eyewear U That's about all I have to say about that. probablyrobably seems like a good thing to avoid video screens in people's eyeball holes while they're driving. It's always something that blows me away when I visit Taiwan or other countries where you appear to be simply allowed to watch video on your dashboard while you are driving pretty much I'd say a solid half of the Uber drivers that I get in Taipei are just like watching dramas or like music videos. Dude, I was getting an Uber because I need I need to get somewhere. I tend to really try to take transit when I'm in Taipei for a variety of reasons to be honest. it's also super cheap, but I get car sick really easily. and I was getting an Uber and we were counting the amount of like I don't know what you want to call them false starts And this this is not unique. Taiwan, I would say, but this was a particularly rough situation where they would like Step on the gas fairly seriously and then break before going. on a once a light went green, there was At one light twenty six It was It was like a fifteen minute ride or something like that. I was I could taste both a mixture of stomach acid and metal in my mouth by the time we got. I guarantee you that's not as bad as what I tasted earlier in the show, but it's not a competition. But like o my go God. Yeahah, if I can if I can not Yeah I usually not. I'll walk or take transit or something. I actually tweeted earlier this week and I got a surprising number of just like brain dead responses on this. I was like, Hey, there's already an accelerometer. both of the phones in the car How about you just use it, Uber? And then you can just like tell drivers to chill the fuck out with their whole like lead foot, braak. L foot, braak, lead foot, braak U just b. And the funny thing is like you can you can report issues. like when you leave a three star review, I think anything three star and below it automatically prompts you for like, why. Um And for whatever reason likeike Excessive acceleration and braking is not one of them. Like you can flag, if I recall correctly, it's like dangerously Dangerous. driving you but it's not always dangerous Sometimes you're just cruising down the freeway, there's nobody around and they're just like M ye Oh my God, the gas pedal is not a toggle switch. You could just Make a fine adjustment and it's like, oh, you should just talk to the driver. It's like I shouldn't I shouldn't have to literally shouldn't be necessary with what is supposed to be a replacement for, professional drivers and taxis or whatever. It just seems like a very obvious thing for them to just address because it's such a meme everyverybody Ks Yeah, yeah, Uber dririvers. like ye Eespecially like Teslas's When they have the region braaking on maximum, so they're like one pedal driving and they have no idea how to have that pedal be anything other than all the way down or all the way up U Yeah it's rough Okay Did we finish that topic? U Oh yeah, I mean, I guess so Did we? Yeah, I want to talk about wait no. I mean, I think it's worth mentioning that I think this is going to be completely insane. You were doing the it was like Illinois or whatever with the you can't wear smart glasses. Oh yeah. I mean, I support the idea that you can't wear smart glasses while driving. but like what the hell? You can barely even tell the current generation Raybands versus normal raybands. how the heck are they supposed to Figure that out I mean, I don't know, and they're only going to get stealthier as time goes on. Yeah. And I think there was like one of the discussion questions on so I don't know where the topic is right now, but I think one of the discussion questions was like Is this going to just give them an excuse to pull anyone over at any time if they're wearing glasses It's kind of like, yeah, probably to be honest. And like cops simply already cannot be expected to recognize every thing that someone's not allowed to have or every stupid la totally So I mean, I support the idea that you shouldn't be able to wear them while driving, but like Man, I don't know how the heck you enforce that unless it's just one of the an additional thing to throw at you when they're trying to throw the book at you. And Agent Renzo reminds us. We talked about this last week, but prescription Smart glasses. Like what are you gonna tell them Dude, it's such a tough Take off your prescription glasses and get back behind the wheel. That's crazy. That is crazy Um briefly touched on this for the first time, Chat GPT has less than half of the AI assistant market. I don't think we have to get into a ton of depth on this, but Flaud is growing like betes Gemini is growing pretty good but Claude is Claude is looking of the development minded people I know A using Claude right now? Claude very strong Um Yeah, there's a bunch of stuff in here. I'm so sorry to the writer who prepared all these notes but I think we have to move on to after Dark Dan Mrter Besser Hit us Oh, I got buttons to push first. up o You push the buttons. I hear him pushing buttons. I don't see it doing anything. Push up buttons. Uh, is that one Okay, cool You have to do the valley girl. Hello, LLD. for Linus, are there any plans to bring? That's a really badalley girl. You're gonna to have to do better than that Canick it up Dan. Can you even remember what it is? the L linus? Can you give me a hand here? Yeah, sure. He's pretty good at it. U like, hello L. Thank you. Thankk you. For like Linus. are there any plans to like bring back back? Oh wffle long sleeve. It's my favorite long sleeve, but I only got one before they were gone. Okay, yeah, you did that whole second sentence without a single like. Yeah. All I keep forgetting to add the. It's like my favorite long sleeve, but like Thank you, Director, Linas I'm not answering the question until you do the second line procet. It's like my favorite long sleeves, but like I only got like One before they were gone I would have had I would have had a fifth like before they were like gone. Yeahah, but that's really good. That's pretty they were like gone. was pretty good. working on. I'm working on. I don't think we have a ton of plans for waffle long sleeve. My uncle really likes it too. I don't think that we're going to be bringing it back anytime soon. I am so sorry Do I vallally girl Less Can't tell us Interesting. I think so. I wonder why I stopped because I talking about this reminded me that I used to get a lot of comments on Wanhow about why the fuck does he talk like that? He sounds like a freicaking Valley girl And I just noticed as I was talking to Dan, I didn't I didn't drop any likes, I don't think Do I do I still do it a bunch? Mr. Omut says it's been much less. I haven't really noticed Interesting, I didn't think about it at all. I had never thought about it till this conversation, but my answer was immediately and I think it's less. Agent Renzo says, I think you realized the uselessness of the word like. Don't think I did I mean, I do pick up on the speech patterns of people around me And I, you know, like anyone, I'm always changing You know, like I don't know, I justt didn' think about it.ave you thought about that? Now that I think about it, I like immediately You immediately want to do. Watch it be fully fledged? Is it back now? Have I relapsed A I off the wagon? No, because you didn't say is it like back now So I think you're you're like so bad That's crazy That's like okay, crazy. I'm gonna have to not think about it. Look at her butt She must be like one of those rap guysy girlfriends I brought those Apple boxes out and I was singing Apple Bxes jeans. Nice They're here. That's what he's talking about. Yeah, ye this with the fur. Everybody was resting on her Did you answer the question about? Yeah, I did. Okay. Okay Do Do I have to I die? Yeah, I mean, we're not answering any Hello Hello. Questions for Luke. Have you like heard of the lantern of the laughless saint stated as the like spiritual successor to like Morwind and junk. The trailer' amazing and starts placing Beep you, Todd Howard, whatever that could mean. L come on That was pretty good. pretty solid.'s pretty good. He's improving. Yes, I have heard of it. think I think the whole internet came together in its algorithmic excellency and was like, this guy because I don't think I've received ads for almost anything else as much as I've received ads for this and I'm following it on Steam What is that? It's how many times you said like like a valley girl? Oh I was gonna to see if you did it more. I was just gonna keep trying. I do it a little bit. I know. Yeah. Oh, you've always been a little valley girl. Yeah. ye How do L LD L finally remember to use my like coin w. swwitch to cashy during the the like Linux challenge and it's been Fun. Oh my Godd. Any like workarounds or discoveries or like happy little accidents, you know, like you like you found that you didn't make it into the, you know, videos? What is it? It's not Vallallyig? No, it's it's you've lost it It's evolving. Yeah It's like it's like Valley Girl mixed with like nineties dork. Yeah. Well, this one felt dork. I'm trying to embody the caracor. You gotta remember Don. You gotta remember, everything is a question How doo theL Finally, remember to use my coin law no, that was wrong, but how do you LDL? Like you gota you have to have the up up tone at the end. It's been fun. Th then you're also the like Yeah Any workars or discoveries or happy accidents you found that didn't make it in videos? Yeah, okay. Okay,'ll get there. Any happy accidents? We'll get there. I haven't tried casting mach during the Linux challenge, and it's been fun. Any workarounds, discoveries, happy accidents you found that didn't make it in videos He did read that to you. It was just impossible to understand without the extra filly words too.m also I'm just thinking feel like Um that doesn't count I feel like it was mostly mentioned because Wano counts a video And I count it, I talked about a lot of it on Wan as we're going along Um Mm. That would be an interesting WN show hooking up electrodes to us so that every time we say u Like or just any Bullpit. I might have pretty wor I want to use them less. Would we end up saving? We're both just paralyzed That's rough U No. No, hear me out serves a purpose. W callering me I don't think so. Hear me out? No, I don't think I didn't mention anything. I think I mentioned a lot of stuff on WN that didn't necessarily end up in the primary videos Wor rounds and stuff though Yeah, I don't really think so. I haven't dabbled much with playing games that aren't on steam yet. I suspect that's going to be a hurdle Um It's about time I do my like every three months check in with Assassin's Greed Odyssey Um Damn it Yeah, I just say it and there's no value It takes practice to fill it with silence. I really I really want to do that. I don't want to ass it It it does take practice. I was thin about this months ago, not that recently, but just that I think it would be better if I didn't. It's also Believe it or not, counterintuitively Part of communication to use the other words though, because you're communicating that you're still talking. I do find that people tend to interrupt me when I'm working on that. Presentations and stuff though, it's really good to have it as a practice for. Yeah. If I could be able to flip a scre it off and on. yeah. Yeah. It's kind of similar to what I was able to do when I was in high school So the second I Joined the shop class So I think that was in grade eleven I went from being the guy who people go If I said ass damn to just Tsing like a sailor. Wow, that makes a lot of sense But I still had I still had young siblings at home And at that time Dude. I I could turn it on and off Like, Fully I don't think my parents ever realized that I said a swear word. And In shop class, I don't think people knew that I knew other words. Yeah. Like it was Yeah. I it's harder now. I seem to be able to do that quite effectively on like a location Sort of, you slip up a fair bit. On Wan? Oh, not on when No, that's what I'm saying. No, but like, u no, I can't I suck outside of this context. Yeah. I screwed up all the time. I know. And it's like really frustrating and kind of embarrassing But for some reason on WN, it's like perfect. Actually, come to think of that, I'm pretty good at it. I don't think my kids have almost ever heard me swear. Like whyy can't I work What? I don't know, but you're kind of embarrassing in public sometimes because I've been working. You're very loud. Yeah. If you weren't so loud, then the potty mouth wouldn't be so much of a problem. I've been working. I'll be like Luke There's A lot of kids here. Yeah There was sometimes I don't actually I usually don't say anything because there's not much point. But there have been times that I'm just sitting there G Go, okay. yeah I often forget how far away I can be heard fromuh. Yeah. veryer far away. Yeah. Yeah. I had someone point out the other day that like we were talking about something that wasn't super public and they were like, we gott to talk quieter and I was already whispering. And we had to talk quieter because someone was across the building. And I was like, Oh Damn. I have wondered before like if our sound booths even contain it I'm not sure. Don't contain it. Part of the problem is the frequency. Yeah because lower frequencies are tougher to block. It's easier for me to have a private conversation than it is for you. Very fun Very cool Last one there. sorry, was responding to Appreciating you guys being late. Allow me to second screen watch from like Australia with everything you've learnt during Linux recently Would you consider like Linux tips or like a U N tips series No, I think it's already covered really well. I don't really see what additional value we'd bring this point in time. I think one of the biggest benefits we could bring is just making it more normal coovering it more on the main channels. Absolutely. if it just happens to be in videos, like you were talking about how your choice for Odysseus was Phedora, I think you said us using Fedora workstation. Yeah, so that makes sense. And if we did end up making a video about that If Fedora was just the thing that you used It's not like this huge deal It's just the thing that you used. I think honestly that's the most that we could bring That is A lot I'm not trying to diminish it, but like trying to help normalize it is I think something that the Line of seective channel could That's what we do for the longest time that's been our whole thing. we don't go the deepest into anything, but what we do is we strive to put At least a few things in every video that someone can learn And then we try to light fires. Luke said, We try to just like go around throwing matches on they'll be like, man, It was your channel that inspired me to get into this. And that's always my favorite thing to hear is that one of those matches ended up. turning into a forest fire. Okaykay. notot a great U, notot a great metaphor, but I think you guys get the point We don't want forest fires in a literal sense. We want them in an imagination and inspiration sense. Yeah. Maybe we should go now. We'll see you again next week. Hold on Somebody pointed out, did you guys figure out the YouTube channel thing yet? Did we not Oh, what channel are we streaming to right now? We haven't figured it out. I asked Dan before we started. He says next week, some people were off this week so they couldn't deal with it. Okay Just we gott to actually do that. Just mid siz company things, I know. That makes sense though. I know See you again next week, S bad time. Hopefully we'll have the channel things sorted out Bye Am up