Transitioning from Competitive Sports

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We all have busy lives, and knowing when to train and to rest is what leads to better quality, more consistent riding. I ain't got no time for burnout, guys. I'm busy. Data helps take the guesswork out of training, which is why today's episode is supported by Garmin, who are legends when it comes to data. Pairing a Garmin Edge head unit with a rally power meter gives you metrics like power, cadence and left-right balance. And with heart rate data from your watch or heart rate monitor, you can calculate your recovery and train in readiness. That means smarter sessions and fewer blow-ups Thanks to Garmin for supporting the show. From varia radar taillights and camera headlights to edge bike computers, tax trainers, rally power meter pedals, Garmin cover performance and safety from every ang le. We were watching a program about the moon landing and I didn't realise they they streamed the moon landing live. Allegedly. And there was a call with the president. How are they doing this? So then I googled how what is the time lag from the moon? Latency. The latency. And it says it's something like a second. One point six seconds each way. Each way. Although the the listeners never hear it because I tidy it up very diligently in our edit, but we do actually have a bit of a lag here, don ' I don't know what you're talking about. Any way. How are you? I've just realized why my coffee tastes weird. But I'm committed to it now. Why? It's actually ass. Well I left for a bike trip and left my wife at h ome five days ago and I made coffee in the morning. And then usually because I don't go away. She then drinks it or leaves a bit or m and if she drinks it she makes a new one and then leaves the pot half there. So I just drink it without think ing. Long story short, the coffee I think is five days old. But that's not gonna kill me. I'd rather have the the gains from the caffe ine. I think it's a it's a fair trade off, it's fine. When did you get back from your little advent ure? Last night and I then slept twelve hours. So I should be refreshed, but my voice sounds like I've cycled through sand. Because I did . It was very dusty. There's little bits I didn't have it have you ever been to a desert? Uh you get nosebleeds. What? Because it's so dry you get nosebleeds. And I didn't get a big full nosebleed, but there's definitely like bits of bl it's it's not nice. It's not nice. Anyway. We're I'm s I survived. My lips have little b its. I'm here. Do you have some va some vaseline? Yes, actually. It was very painful to put on. Ooh, a little piece of my lip just flew flew. Oh God. That's actually sunburn, isn't it? You've got lip burn. Probably. But if any I put sun cream on, but then it's like a coconut flavour, so I eat it. Especially when your skin starts flaking, 'cause it's basically like little desiccated coconut. Is that what it's called? Desicate yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's nice, ye ah. Well, anyway, welcome to the Wild Ones Podcast. I'm Jimmy. This is Francis. Hey. And producer Emily is here too. Hello, and thank you to Garmin for supporting the show . I've arranged something fun for us to do on Friday, Jimmy. Oh I. We are gonna be recording a special guest segment for next week's show. Yeah. Caveat. Do you know before before actually I s I said this, I thought do I do I say this or will say thising curse me for something go wrong? If nothing goes wrong with any of the technical arrangements, which as we know it can sometimes well, I would we're tomorrow we're gonna be recording a guest segment with Sarah Ruggins. For those who don't know, she's the fastest person ever to ride the length of the UK there and back. John's End. John's End. John's end John John's' Esnd end of Groats Land of Grotz John of Grotz Land's End John of Grotz. She beat the previous record held by James McDonald by seven hours, but not content with just one world record. She's now preparing for another. She wants to become the fastest person to ride solo from the bottom to the top of Europe. I think she is legitimately cool AF and I am very much looking forward to having a chat with her. Yeah, me too. Very interesting backstory as well. It's going to be the first time we have recorded remotely with a guest. So I'm a little bit nervous about that. I hope all of the tech works. Hopefully she's on the moon. Yeah, exactly. Then we'll have no problems. If you would like to send us a question to ask her, then you can, but you have to send it tod ay, assuming that you are listening to this on the day the podcast comes out, because I am going to be interviewing her tomorrow Friday. So get your questions in early. You can email us while once podcast at KDMedia.co DK or WhatsApp Us plus four four seven eight six oh eight six oh two one three and I'll try and put some questions to her as well. My question is when did when did she start riding? She bought her first adult bike in her 30s. Good for her. Yeah. Oh, I've also got an update from uh last week where I talked about the 3D printed Hezzo shoes. Oh yes. So I ended up just buying some. £220. They don't know who I am, just to make that really clear. So custom 3D printed shoes. I was super excited and now I'm a little bit nervous. Why? So I s I saw a couple of comments on last week's podcast, which were basically saying I ordered some and they took ten months. And I did a bit more digging and there's whole sections of Reddit, which are basically talking about how their communication is junk and it takes ages to get them. So I did my foot scan. It wasn't clear if the scan had actually uploaded to the to the site, so I emailed them and I've still haven't had a response that was about five days ago. So I am currently feeling the the same pains that other people are. Oh man. So yeah, currently I'm in limbo. I've had no update from them and I will keep you guys updated with the progress over the next probably twelve month s. On a weekly update . I'm now gonna shoehorn us into the news. First up, Shimano's surprised us this week by dropping a new version of Tiag ra. And we're honestly a bit confused. Tiagra, Sora, and Claris were being phased out. The thought was that they'd be consolidated into Shimano Qs, but apparently not. They've just launched Tiagra R four thousand. Aesthetically, it looks similar to Shimano's higher end road group sets and it's two by eleven speed. The new shifters have the same ergonomics as the latest Mechanical 105, and it's about 200 grams lighter than the current generation Tiagra. The price for rear derailer, front derailler, crankset, cassette and shifters, no rotors or chain, is six hundred and sixty pounds or eight hundred and thirty five dollars. In their press release, Shimano says it sits between one hundred five and Qs in their hierarchy. But we spoke to them and asked them for more clarity, seeing as the Tiagra clearly isn't being phased out. They said Tiagra remains a dedicated road grip set while Q's covers all road, gravel, and bikes with wider tires. The distinction is in the technical specifications such as optimized chain stay lengths and front derailer tire clearance, which are specifically tailored for classic road bike geomet ry. It looks way more like the road group sets, doesn't it? Yeah, a hundred percent. It It looks like one hundred five. I was about to say it looks like one oh five. I guess this is the the trickle down thing, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. If there's any example of trickle down actually working, it's Shimana. They really do make their mid to lower end group sets very similar to the old ones. Old high end ones. I have no issues with this whatsoever. I don't know if there's any tone in the way people are communicating this is in yes but they said they were getting rid of it. I don't care that they've brought it back. If it's a good price point and it's a good product and it gives people more options and better value bikes, I am all for it. It is obviously not cheap . People are gonna have problems with the price. They'll be like Tiagara for that money, but it's not really Tiagara. Exactly. Yeah. Is it? That's the thing. It's not really Tiagara. Like Tiagara back when we rode years ago. We still ride, but back when we started riding, it was like, oh, Tiagra, it's like the low end. It was clunky. It's not the same anymore. Yeah, like that is that that's the sort of thing you buy a bike with that group set on it, you save a bit of money on the side, you get a secondhand durace crank, put that on, and all of a sudden everyone goes, Whoa, you got durace on your bike? And you go, Yeah, I do. But actually you've got Tiagra, but the durace crank. And the most the best bit about it is that it'll basically function exactly the same. Probably will now. It's Dura Ace from 2012. As someone who actually did that just bought the durace crank because it looked fancy. Don't do it. It's so ex it was not worth the money. Yeah, you bought a new one though. You could have bought a second. It's the most expensive bit. Crazy. And I and I scratched already. So annoying. You scratched it? Yeah. Well the bike falls down, doesn't it? I scrat my cranks within one ride, I rub my shoes rub them. So I I feel bad like whoever lends us bikes to review, they all go back with crank ru You should um you should probably get a bike fit. I that's that that is the only way I can ride a bike without having problems is with my heels in. Maybe your stance isn't wide enough. Actually It could be pressure from bike manufacturers. What could be? The new Tiagra group set. Okay. Be cause Q's is a fantastic group set, but it doesn't have that like luxurious road aesthetic. I think it adding this in allows bike brands to drop a lower priced bike for their offering. I'm saying that because it's probably a 2,000 pound bike if it's put getting an 800 pound group set um or more. But it ultimately allows them to drop a group set that looks like a road group set, functions like a road group set, allows them to have a lower price point compared to their higher end stuff. So it might be pressure from bike brands. But like I said, you know, more price points, especially in the lower end, I'm all for. Now what we need though is we need a 200 pound group set that's actually the n uts. And there might be one coming. There might be one coming soon. And I don't know if it was told to me in secret or not. Oh uh from Shimano. No, not Shimano. Oh right, okay. Not Shimano. Not Shimano. None none none of the big brands. Okay, well I I didn't think it would be at that price point. It's actually on our cool wall. And I happen to know that some they're adding something else into it. Sword. Okay, well say no more just in case you're not allowed to. Sword. Jimmy's just ignoring me. I'm saying same words, you're just ignoring. Yeah, sword. So they're dropping hydrau lic shifters and calipers, I think early next year. What the whole bit the all their marketing is like we love mechanical cables. Yeah, but it's still it's still mechanical shifting. Oh okay. Okay. But they're gonna have it's gonna be a full group set and it it's it's gonna be cheap. I bet it's good. Am I gonna have to see if this is embargoed first before I add this in? Um I reckon just put it in. It's all good it's good all good PR, isn't it? No one explicitly said to me this is embargoed, you can't talk about it, I think. And I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. No one's shown it to me because it doesn't actually exist in that sense yet. You've got nothing written down. There's nothing written down. That says do not talk about this. Exactly. Correct. So you're gonna plead I'm gonna plead the fifth. What does that mean? Francis, what does that mean? I don't know, but uh it might be gun related to be honest. Okay. Okay, I'm not gonna plead the first. No, I don't it's it's not. It's not one of them's the right to bear arms to have your big bear arms on. Yeah, I don't I I'm not sure Okay. So I reckon use all of that and it'll be it'll be fine . Next, specialised Trek and Shimano are suing the US government and they're not the only ones. In fact, a handful of bike brands, as well as big businesses like GoPro, Patagonia, Costco, and Toyota have filed legal action over the country's controversial tariff policy. Supreme Court recently ruled that the tariffs were actually unlawful, and now businesses want to try and recover the money they've paid on these duties. Tariffs have caused huge disruption to the bike industry. They've complicated supply chains and have driven up costs for brands. Businesses like Rota have closed their US offices partly due to the changes, while brands like BMC have been forced to make layoffs. Lobby group people for bikes even suggested the US bike industry may take until the end of a decade to recover from the fallout of tariffs. Jeez. It's not just bike industry, is it? It's like it isn't a big reason for Hollywood sort of collapsing in on itself because they it's it's an um it's a hostile place to now try and film film films. Um just because everything's so expens ive. People just go to play and then uh there are like not tax havens, but there's places that won't charge um production companies to film anymore, like going to Ireland and places and they've just gone, Oh yeah, we'll just go there instead. Just disappeared. I think that's fair. If it was unlawful then they could get their money back. Plus more. With interest. It does seem a bit odd though that a c a country can go, actually we're gonna put a tariff in place and then someone goes, You're not allowed to do that. You'd think a country could just do whatever they wanted. So I I guess there is some um uh hope that there are limits to what people can get away with doing when they rule a country, subject to what the country is. I think the lawsuits are a legal requirement, perhaps, for them seeking compensation. I was actually looking at uh reading about this the other day, and it's something I think it's like one hundred and nineteen billion dollars has been collected in tariffs that might have to be returned to the businesses, which will then create a huge deficit in the American um finances. Coffers, they call it. The coffers. I I just can't see rebates happening somehow. Well I think they're gonna have to. I think this is why the all I think this is why all of the businesses are putting in legal actions. Because it's been ruled unlawful, by putting in a legal action it's essentially saying we are staking our claim to the money you've taken from us. I am pretty confident some of it will go back to the businesses. Well, we shall see. It's one of those things that's gonna it's not gonna be resolved quickly, is it? In other bike brand news, and it's sort of related to America. Road CC's reporting that giants sales are down. And it comes after the US recently banned imports of their bikes. Obviously they're down. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh over concerns of forced labour. So their revenues was down 22% in January. They made 86 million pounds still to be fair, but it was 24 million less than January last year. And it was also down 23% in tw on 2024. Um the last news on that ban that I can find was from December when the company was in talks with the US or about corrective action, basically, which includes reimbursing migrant workers and updating their policies to provide greater protections for workers as well. I'm friends with a guy who runs a giant branded bike, or they stock giant, they've changed their name recently, but he was saying they they can still get one because I was inquiring about a specific bike the other day and they can still uh they can still get them. Oh okay. I don't know what their situation is, but they're uh relatively unaffected. Interesting. Is that official or is that unofficial ? As in can they officially get them? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah. Well, maybe their fortunes are about to change, giants, this is, because they actually have a new celebrit y fan. Well, sounds like it's Francis. He's inquiring about getting one. Well, you're in good company because Ed Sheeran was seen picking up a giant propel from the giant Brisbane store while he was on tour there. They said he needed a fast whip to cruise around the town while he's here. Does look fast. He looks very happy. I didn't even realize he was a cyclist, but actually I I looked back and he is. He broke Oh wait. Well, we should get him on the podcast then, shouldn't we? Ed Sheeran, obviously you're gonna be listening to this. Get in touch. I feel like he'd good he'd be a good good hang hang. A. Yeah. Just a just a chill gu y. Immerse yourself in herbal essence's new Moroccan Argon Oil Elixir, infused with pure argan oil. Just one drop. Delivers up to 100 hours of hair nourishment with the indulgent scent of a Moroccan garden. Herbal Essence's new Moroccan Argon Oil Elixir. Spar quality hair repair without the price tag. Try it now. Herbal Essences. Surface repair to smoothness, nourishment with regimen use versus non-conditioning shampoo. Ready to launch your business? Get started with the Commerce platform made for entrepreneurs. Shopify is specially designed to help you start, run, and grow your business with easy customizable themes that let you build your brand, marketing tools that get your products out there, integrated shipping solutions that actually save you time. 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Thankfully he managed to lean himself up against a guardrail and a team car saw him and stopped. Also, Mads Peddersen, his teammate, had a nasty crash at the Volta Communicat Valenciana that resulted in a broken collarbone and wrist. Apparently that one too went temporarily unnoticed because he couldn't reach for his radio or tell his team what happened. Thankfully in both cases they were found and treated, but it may further fuel conversations about GPS tracking, obviously following horrible cases like the death of Muriel Fur er. They were trialling the GPS thing, weren't they? And then there was there was a load of pushback some from some teams because they had like licensed their GPS data to s another company. It was like we there was some weird thing going on there, wasn't it? Yeah, it was at the women's tour of Normandy, and five of the teams were disqualified for not nominating a rider to participate in the trial. Yeah, that was it. That was it. Apparently they say they said we're not going to nominate one because it'll put them at a disadvantage. So if you want to pick one you can go ahead, UCI. Uh and there was some sort of conflict there. But yes, there was there was in the UCI statement, they said something about, oh, well, it just happens that all of these teams are Vellon affiliated teams and they're working on their own GPS. So again, it's like a case of this like conflicting stakeholders thing. But um I I do think that the GPS tracking conversation is gonna is gonna rumble on. I think these these lads who just talked about there were have mentioned it in podcasts and stuff like that. So I think there's there's clearly a thought in the pro peloton of we want to push this back on the agenda. Can we just I would I would like to add, which is a continuation of the point Francis was making last week, is sur ely course design should be considered before GPS. If there's a consideration that someone might c come off the road so much that they won't be found, then the course design is bad. Well, I mean uh d uh playing devil's advocate, I don't think it has to be one solution. I'm sure that they are considering course design and slowing riders' speed down and increased safety things like airbags and GPS. It's like it's almost not like one solution, and I can't imagine that they're single track minded. They're trying to find a a bunch of solutions, I would assume. Well if you have a if you if you were just riding if you were in the no man's land somewhere in the middle of the race, no one really around you, elapsing judgment or hit a bit of rain or something, and then went over the side of a barri er. There is no way for people to know that has happened. Yep. But how often does that happen? I I But I guess the idea is it when it happens, d it has the potential to become catastrophic, I guess, doesn't it? Because you're potentially fallen from a great height and treatment will be delay ed if you can't be loc ated. Um I don't know. I I think that this is going to be something that is brought up again, this d discussion or trial around GPS tracking. It needs to all be from one source. And it probab my gut says it should be the race organizers should be in charge of that. Mm-hmm. The UCI should have what they have a otherwise some of the teams would have listen like a VLON one, some of the teams would have another one, they all have access to own only their and then it's their responsibility. Could work, but it's just I I it's the race organizers need to make a safe event and they should be in charge of it. Yeah, and and you're there's nothing to say that okay, if you have your o if if Vellon has one, for example, fine you use that and you use the data to sell products or whatever, you know, commercialize it. There's nothing to say that you couldn't also have just a little GPS tracker that's just monitored for the purpose of race safety also, is there not? Well, how big is a tracker now? Well yeah. Like an air tag air tag is nothing. But obviously they wouldn't use that. They'd use some stupid old technology. That's the problem. It would be like, here's your tracker. Oh thanks. Yeah. Like it would, wouldn't it? For the f for the listeners, Francis grabbed something that was probably the size of a watermelon. Watermelon. Put that in your pocket. Off you go . When I was reading about this, think back to when I was racing and how stuffed I would have been if I'd got dropped from a race and I had to ride back to the start and not know where I was. Because you n you don't take your phone because it's heavy. Like I'm doing a bike race, why would I have a phone with me? But in a lot of cases you'd be so lost. Like I never got dropped so I was fine. You could load the root into your head unit. No. That root is heavy, Jimmy. That root's heavy once you've put it in. Gigabytes. If anything, it says it says more about you and how you use head units for route planning. Well, if there's someone with me, follow them. If you're in a bike race, lots of people to follow. It's well, it's a good incentive to not get dropped, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah. If you attack then you're like, Oh sh well, I don't know what way I'm going. Everyone else in the race is thinking, Don't get dropped 'cause they want to win. France is going, Don't get dropped 'cause I'm lost. Otherwise. Where am I? You need both. You need both. That's the secret . Next, is this the greatest bikepacking hack we have ever seen? Potentially. This is from a guy called James Benson King, who also goes by Benson or Biking Viking Rides. He's on YouTube and Instagram. Does some cool bikepacking trips and content. He rode over 30,000 kilometers from Alaska to Argentina and is currently training to go and ride across Antarctica. Oh way. He also seems like a very nice man, for what it's worth. He, like me, uses carbo boxes uh in a lot of cases when you're flying with a bike uh and he's come up with a genius way to make lugging it around eas ier. Because as we know, once you leave the airport with a very nice, smooth, polished flo or, things get tricky. Carbon box on smooth floor is great. You it's like curling. You just who you just push it and it keeps going. Someone else in front with a broom. Another guy, yeah, ye ah. Uh he said we can use this video, but there's music on it, so we can't actually use this video. So I'm gonna explain it rather than playing the sounds and getting copyright straight. He's got two caster wheels from his local hardware st ore, two small pieces of wood, and a ratchet strap that's big enough to go all the way around the bike box. And then he sandwiched the strap between the two pieces of wood, screwed them together, then screwed the wheels underneath. And then he puts the strap around the bike box at one end with the wheels down, tightens it, and boom. You can pick it up from the other end and wheel it aro und. If you like adventure content, it's worth checking out. Biking Viking rides. Yeah, I'll I'll put that the link to that video if anyone actually wants to watch it because I I I've It's so simple but so effective. Yeah, and if your front wheel breaks and explodes, you can then just put little casters on the end of your fork and just keep riding your bike with little tiny wheels on the front. You could. Through Antarctica. These are the hacks we need, Francis. Well, this this reminds me of the time that me and Francis flew back from Spain with bikes in bike boxes and to save a little bit of money we flew into Edinburgh and then got the train down from Edinburgh. Oh no. Oh this would have been so oh. It was unpleasant, wasn't it? Any anyone which has flown into Edinburgh will know that the airport is like out of town, and then you get a bus into town to then get to the train station. So then we had to walk from the airport to the bus station, the bus, then you get off in Edgeborough, and then you have to basically walk across the mile, I think it's called, which is just like the long straight bit. And it I just it was just hell. I can't remember why it was hell. Was it oh is is it maybe 'cause we put everything in the bike boxes as well. So they were big and awkward and actually really heavy. They were big and awkward, heavy, but uh anything becomes heavy. Yeah. After five minutes of carrying and yeah, I was just like, oh that it was it was bad. It were lots of m micro brakes. But then we were like we have to get the train. So so it couldn't the brakes couldn't be that long. It was so it was we needed that. Yeah. We needed that. That is the that is a legit ten out of ten hack. What do you do once once you've started your trip, you've wheeled your bike to your destination and then you start riding? What what do you do with that? Well it's small, isn't it? That's the whole point. You bag it. You just take it. Oh no, I d I don't think the difference between like a medium-heavy bike and a heavy, heavy bike. It's just doesn't really mat once it's once it's a loaded bike, it's a loaded b ike. It's this it's all the same. It's just it's just heavy. Jake, who we interviewed on this podcast, and his second name escapes me, Thorpe, who uh cycled a long way across Africa. He he I think his bike weighed fifty kilo or something and he said the same. It's that heavy bike's heavy bike. Literally twenty kilos or fifty kilos. It's just like, well, that's a big way you got the gearing and there's a big difference. But yeah. To be honest, it's the same the difference between an eight kilo bike and a twelve kilo bike is is insignificant as well. But that's a whole different discussion we're not gonna have right now. It's the feel, Jimmy. It's the feel. The feel is a big difference between those two weights. No, it's not. Oh I've been holding this in my hand and I forgot to talk about it. We have another postcard. Yes. All the way from Clifton, Texas. Cool. And it's from Brina who says greetings from Texas. Good name. I've learned so much about bikes. Listening to your show. You've inspired me to ride more. PS This card came from a swag bag from a charity bike ride. Oh, wonderful. Thank you very much. Thank you. It's going to go on the wall. Yeah, I haven't got a pin. I need to go and get a pin and then it's then it'll be there for the next episode. We can install it later. Bring on the wall. More postcards, please. Okay, finally, I wanted to highlight a YouTube video that got served this week because it actually gave me faith in humanity again. It's a channel called Driving Instructor UK and it's run by an ex-trucker who's now a driving coach. And the subject on the video was overtaking cyclists. And I have to say my my curiosity got the better of me. I really wanted to know not only what advice he was given but how he was going to talk about cyclists. Did you think you were going to have some rage bait for the podcast? Yes, to be honest. I was probably primed because last year I had to do a speed awareness course and in in one of the sections it was talking about potential causes of speeding, the um the guy, the teacher, the instructor, whatever, it was essentially talking about cyclists as irritants, you know, who we you know, we all get annoyed by them following us slowly, taking up the whole road. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which which which can then make us overcompensate in speed. Like nothing about the fact that we're incredibly vulnerable yo road users or anything. I was I was like literally gobsmacked. Um so anyway, I clicked on the video and I couldn't be more wrong. Most drives in Britain have actually never been taught properly how to overtake cyclists. Let that sink in for a minute. We pass our test, hit the roads, and many of us have never demonstrated that we can actually overtake the most vulnerable road users safely. So we start with some simple advice that I teach my learners when we follow cyclists. And the first is actually that I follow usually around about 10 meters behind. So I don't want to be so close that I'm intimidating the cyclist. But equally I don't want to be that far back that if a suitable opportunity arises, I now am unsafe taking that. Because regardless of what you might read online in dash cam groups, comment sections, etc., cyclists are just as entitled to use the road as the rest of us. He says if there is a car in front of him and then a cyclist in front of that, he will also drop back from that car and give them ten meters so that that car doesn't then feel pressure to do a dangerous overtake. Which is really interesting. And that's I mean, that's something that I don't do in my driving currently. I probably don't stay 10 meters back from cyclists. I like to give them a lot of room. I take a long time to overtake because I I don't want to put them in a bad position on me. But uh the the 10 meter thing I thought was really clever. And he also talked constantly about um good things come to those who wait and the idea that, you know, be patient because often a cyclist will turn off your path quite quickly. So yeah, shout out to Driving Instructor UK. The cycling community thanks you for your service. And I'll put a link to his video in the description if you if you want to go and give him some love.. Legend Thank you, Driven Astractor UK, for doing the right thing. Your job. Yeah. For understanding the highway code correctly. One of the top comments is impatience the cause of ninety-nine percent of incidents on our roads. Next question. That's the the problem is that people will always be it's just built into us, isn't it? That's so uh gonna mention I'm gonna say it again. Driverless car s. Yes, please. I do have to say it, Francis, since you keep mentioning driverless cars, when I very occasionally check the Instagram messages on the the Kate Instagram account, there's a lot of videos being sent of of Waymo's doing ridiculous things. I I think they do do some ridiculous things, but not killing people. I saw the Amazon on es. There's an Amazon company now doing it. Like a sub brand. Zooks. Zooms. Zoom something. They look proper space age. There's gonna end up being driverless car turf wars, isn't there, in a couple of years' time. Zooks. Zooks. Yeah, I wonder if they'll um collaborate in some high of mind way, or they'll just be separate companies and they won't get on very well on the roads. Do you do I feel like there's something missing though? So go into cyberp unk d what's is Delamain yeah it's quite nice having the driver in the car so you can have a chat with them whereas with a Waymo there's not like a fake driver or total recall if we want to bring it to films, when when you're in the the the self-driving vehicle, there's like there's like a dude you can just have like a chat with, Hey, what's up? Any recommend ations? I reckon that is a very easy for them, easy thing for them to add. If that's something you missed, Jimmy, you should. But it but it needs to be like human like and like have arms and and look like it's doing the steering and then like turn around like full head turn hundred and eighty degrees so it can talk to you . Like a a like an owl. Like a human. Yeah . Anyway, well done, driving the structure UK. Yes. Well done, well done. It's very good. Right, fluff up of the week . I've got a lot this week. And they they range from near death to destroying everything that we've built. Um so some of you that listen to this on Apple Podcasts will have noticed that the podcast wasn't there and that was because I broke it. And some other podcast providers too. And some other podcast providers. How did you break you broke it you broke our YouTube channel as well. Do you remember when you changed you like fiddling around with the name, all you managed to do was put Cade in capitals and you destroyed our verification, which I've worked ten years of my life to gain little tick next to the comments that we post. But that doesn't actually mean anything. And it won't let me get it back. Yeah, it's irrelevant. That's irre that doesn't actually br that hasn't broken it. Whereas Apple Podcasts, I legit broke. You would go on it, you would click play, and it would say unavailable. Is that is that fixed now? It's fixed now, yes. Okay. It has been fixed. Now fix the verification thing. I also nearly died this week. Ye ah. I know this story and it's annoying, but go on. So currently our house has scaffolding all the way around it and after the scaffold is finished, before the workers that were then coming to do the work arrived, I was like, I'll just, you know, do a little check on the house, have a little spin around the scaffolding. And the ladders weren't actually up yet. So I climbed onto it, got up to my first floor, and then I was gonna climb up higher onto the like the roof level. So I was like literally grabbing one of the poles, working how to get up there, and then my foot slipped, and I was legitimately dangling by my powerful gripped hands on a pole from the roof of our house over the side. And I've got a big graze on my on my leg. And then I just kind of managed to get myself back onto the scaffold. It's doing Njainri Waror and the fing scaffolding. Maybe that's why. Maybe that's why because I saw it, I was like, oh, that looks like fun. I'll have a go at that. Was it like Ninja Warrior or was it more when I think Jimmy, I think Takashi's castle? Oh I, love Takashi's Castle. Way more in line with him. To be honest, they're all basically the same thing. Because if you watch Ninja Warrior, it's basically a compilation of people with doing some mad wipeouts thinking that they can like grip a piece of wood with their like little finger and thumb. Ninja Warrior is missing doors and you're not sure. One of them's wood and one of them's paper. That's all if they added w like your house, all the doors in your house are that, aren't they? You have to keep replacing them, isn't it? But uh that's what they need in Ninja Warrior. Yeah. That's what they're missing. But do you remember the old war helmets but as soon as they sort of hit anything it would come off. Yes. They needed MIPS, didn't they ? So yeah, loads of fluff ups this week. I ended up riding I rode gravel tires for four hundred miles on on a road because I tried to put I tried to this is karma. Got a bike in for test. So I was like, I won't tell the company, I'll just take it for this thing and tried to put the tail fin on at eleven pm the night before we were leaving at six a m and then the tail fin didn't because it's UDH like it's uh full mount mech thing. Okay, right, okay, what am I gonna do here? Ah, I can steal, I can ride my gravel bike, but I'll steal the wheels from it. And then there was compatibility compatibility issues there as well. The rat rear wheel wouldn't go around without switching set, and I at that point I was like, am I gonna start removing cassettes and changing things? And then uh the answer was no. Gravel tires was the only way. And it was a very bald gravel tyre on the rear, which then just got worse and worse and worse, and there was little j bits of sealant juice coming out pretty much the whole trip. It just so I fill but I filled up the tire so much with sealant that it barely any air. It was just all yeah, it was basically solid of sealant. So I had enough for it to just keep losing sea limp for the four days we were going. Oh, cool. Uh and it was me was it fine? You're gonna have to find out. Oh. The video's coming soon. Probably two weeks from now. It's two weeks, two weeks, two weeks. Okay. Haven't started editing yet. I didn't have time to edit on the road. Which is rare. It's r are. with instant coffee for just £3.50 this Easter with your Tesco Club card . Because every little helps . Majority of larger stores are 0.90 grams ends 14th of April. Club card or app required. Idle money lies in your current account picking crumbs out of its belly button wondering, should I eat them? 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And the more of us that do more kinds of cycling, the more advocates that we have in the fight for better cycling infrastructure and stopping mountain bike trails from becoming pickleball courts. Would love to hear what you all think about this one. Love the show, been listening to it for a while, but first time writing in. Thank you, and I'll hear from y'all soon, hopefully. Lovely accent. Popular opinion. Sur ely. Surely that's a popular opinion. Th d the only problem with cycling is it's really expens ive. And to try all of the different types of cycling, the chances are you're going to have to find somewhere where you can rent some stuff, which are r fairly readily available in many places, but that is kind of the limiting factor, isn't it? Like if you want to be a if you want to do track in the United Kingdom, you would have to do a track accreditation, which obviously costs money, you can usually rent the bike when you do it. BMXing, you need a BMX, whether that's street or what's the Olympic stuff they do? What do they call that? That is that is technically BMX, whereas the other one is like flatland BMX, right? Well no flatland is where you like spin around in circles. But if it was just bicycle motocross and that with the first BMX stuff was the Olympic thing that they do in the Olympics. Yeah. So th so there's actually three types of BMXing that I'm aware of. Vert, Flatland, and then But it's freestyle. They call it freestyle BMX. Oh they do, don't they? That'll be the word. Yeah. But yeah, my point is it bikes cost a lot of money. Fine, okay. But I do massively agree. And and and annoyingly, the more you do spend the better the experience you have because you're not on like a annoying bike that's doesn't do what you want it to do. Yeah. Okay, let's as a thought experiment say that there's some kind of Sherzies system. You buddy up, you you you match a roadie with a BMXy. There is. It's called having friends. Yeah, size and requirements and you swap for a bit, then are you on board then? Oh yeah, totally. Absolutely. And like I've tried so many different types of cycling. And actually the thing I've learned the most is if you ride a bike, you you can ride a bike. Good learnings. I don't know if that's true. Well, may I mean maybe it's actually just lack of confidence. I know how to ride a bike. Yep. But I feel like if I got on a mountain bike or a BMX or a track bike in their proper environments, I feel like I would die. You would you would adapt really quickly. Very quick. So th the biggest learning point for me with bikes was when I started racing cyclocross. So up until that point, I had been commuting on bikes around London, racing road bikes and triathlons, and doing some time trialling, and then I threw myself into some cyclocross and like UK cyclocross is like mudfest and you you just adapt so quickly and all of a sudden you go, Oh, actually, I don't fall off in this scenario. And then and then that applies then to basically all of the rest of type, you know, all of the off-road riding I do is based off of that cyclocross stuff. The mount the bit of mountain biking I've done with Francis is essentially cyclocross, but you've got more suspension and a bit more more aggressive. And then it just comes about confidence. Like with most things, you know, if you do something consistently, languages are are a great comparison for it. If you learn basics in a language but never use it, you're not going to go any further. However, if you have a scenario where you can keep learning that language, then you have a chance of getting better at it and still remembering it. Yeah, you're right. And although the the the mountain biking and the BMX and especially feel like high barriers to entry for me, uh it actually in turn would probably make me a lot more confident and maybe competent as a as a bike rider on on gravel and and road. Yeah, sure. 100%. Am I gonna do it? No . I've never done real BMX. Like the Olympic thing. Yeah, me neither. Where you're big which like the motocross. That would be that'll be so cool. Hump track stuff. I've never ridden a tandem. Me neither, yeah. I've never done Japanese Kieran racing. But you have done track, presumably . Yeah. Have you done track track or just like fixy crit stuff? No, no, no, track track. Done a lot. Indoor as well. Um surprisingly steep. Unicycling. I've never ridden a unicycle. See, there's so many. I love doings. I think my brain, I'm sure that other people are in the same boat as well. I love progression. And it's why I do hobbi es up to a certain point, and then it's that the curve starts to slow down, doesn't it? Like you have to really put effort into get any better. Yep. Um, and I did that with road cycling for su re, but now I've reached a point where I'm just like I you k you the the when it when you start off a new skill, the gains come so quickly, it's so satisfying. And then just do it and enjoy it. And maybe it's the a summer project and like do it with with the the with the knowledge that you'll probably stop it. Just do it for fun with the no pressure. And then you can get good at something and you probably will sti th those skills will stick and then I'll come back when you revisit it later a couple of years later. But I just love the progression. And I think that is a good example of that. Do a bit of BMX. And then the uh then this overlap as well. The off-road stuff makes you a better road ri der. If you're descending, you're suddenly moving your weight around in different wa ys. It's just more time on a bike as well. Yeah. Volume. It's good. Should we move on? Yes. Thank you for your voice note, Tyler. Thanks, Tyler. Next, Mike in Scotland says my unpopular cycling opinion is that the phrase winter miles for summer smiles is unmitigated nonsense. Last year I rode through Scottish winter and all I got was cold, wet, and miserable, and an inordinate number of punches. Despite you need to put more sealant in. That's that's the only solution. Despite spending yet more time in the freezing cold trying to clean and maintain my bike after each godforsaken ride, I also wrecked numerous components because of the claggy salty grit from the roads . Come what laughably gets called summer here in Scotland. I was so disillusioned with cycling I couldn't be asked to ride, so any improvements from my winter purgatory were lost. It wasn't until late summer that I started looking forward to going out on the bike again. This year I stopped riding mid-November and started going to the gym, doing a combination of lifting weights and ro wing. I realized this isn't for everyone, and I do have the advantage of being able to go to a go at quiet times, but I've really enjoyed the discipline of learning to lift with proper form and the brutality of interval sessions on a rowing erg. Sounds horrible. Uh I feel way better than I did this time last year. And have I haven't gotten close to hypothermia once. We finally had a warm day this week, so I rode my usual 45-mile loop. I was no slower than when I got off the bike in November, and was grinning rather than grimacing when I got h ome. Unlike last year, I'm now looking forward to getting out for more rides once the weather really improves. While I'm sure there's people who enjoy the sort of self flagellation riding in miserable weather entails for me, you can shove your winter miles where the sun don't shine. Yeah, which is Scotland apparently . Mike is a fantastic writer. Very good. Very good, yeah. I l believe that people should do whatever works for them. But mm the Mr. D motivator in me says, if it's crap, don't do it. So if if he isn't getting uh if he isn't enjoying riding through winter, I l I am very happy that he's found something that does work for him. And cross training is something that often works for many people. You have a tolerance for it, don't you? I do at least. I can do a few I can do maybe three weeks of riding outside, riding outside, riding outside, and then I'm like now I'm done. I've done my time. Is it is do you mean you mean in bad weather west of Calpey? In bad weather. Right. Yeah. I see I quite like it. And he's right. It's not just the bat it's not just the ride itself. I if if you had like a a butler to just clean your bike afterwards and wash all your kit, and so you didn't little bits of mud go everywhere and then there's just little tiny little pieces of black all over the floor . If that was all sorted for you, maybe the tolerance would last five weeks instead of three. Yeah, no, it's interesting. I I have definitely in the past thought that to be a cyclist I needed to continue cycling all the time. And actually you don't. It's quite reductive. Yeah. Well, especially because when you feel like you have to do something, at least for me, I then go, No, I'm not gonna do that thing that I say that I have to do, and then I want to rebel against myself. Whereas I've done exactly what Mike is saying this year. I have I've ridden when the weather and my schedule allows it and then I have supplemented it with mainly swimming, actually, and the um my cardio's fantastic and my shoulders feel f fantastic too. I think what will happen once we start uh getting some some weightlifting in as well. Yeah. You're gonna be you're gonna be proper tonky. Well you can send us your popular opinions too. The email address is wild onespodcast at cademedia.co.uk or WhatsApp Us, a video voice note or message plus four four seven eight six oh eight six oh two one three and we might feature it sometime. And it's time for listeners take over. This one's from Joshua who's currently studying in Bordeaux. I used to do rowing at high level in the junior under 19 category, but I've dialed it down now that I'm in university due to injury and relocat ing. I've now taken up cycling a lot more. I go on group rides and I've signed up for a grand fondo. Yet I can't shake the feeling of being a bit aimless, coming from bi weekly rowing competitions and seven training sessions a week. Previous performance can't be lost, but also can't really be won. I don't feel able to let go, especially while watching my physical capabilities and PRs crumble compared to the competitive sport days. As a junior I always thought I would only improve, but after all this stagnation I feel confused. How did you manage to let go of past performances and learn to enjoy the sport from a different point of view again? And what goals did you set that actually felt accomplished? Love the podcast. Really helped keep me going through the winter. Oh, thank you. As a junior I always thought I'd only improve, but after all this stagnation I feel confused. If that isn't just like getting older gener ally, just there's a point. And I remember being told this when um I really enjoyed running and I was getting a lot of running PBs and people around me were going, Oh, I remember PBs. Yeah. And and now I'm on the other side of that. And yeah. I I struggled a lot with this a lot over the years of thinking that or uh or comparing myself to when the small period of time that I was really fast, for me anyway, and the realization that it would just never ever come back. I I did struggle with it a lot. Um, and ultimately for me, the only way I was able to deal with it, and I don't think this is necessarily the right way, was to I had to just reset so hard that it would be impossible for me to even consider being as good as that before. So I go, Well, I don't even think about it. I just I now look at it as a fond memory rather than a as a I'll get there again one day . That's exactly the same for me. I probably did three seasons of elite elite level like bikes are life. Right bike racing was life. And then I stopped. And it wasn't really a it was I was sort of forced to stop, which was sad. And then did I sold everything. I sold my shoes and pedals. I sold all my bikes. I sold my shoes and pedals. I the first ride back after probably a year and a half of resetting, which resetting was just lots of destructive behavior, b ad, was a ride with you and you had to lend me shoes. Do you remember? And you and you gave them to me. And a bike. Like a weird pair of physiques and a bike and borrowed a bike from you. Um but that's not what I would recomm like it it's what I did, but it wasn't good. And how but how do you stop you completely obsessed and focused on a thing which is your whole life and your whole um self-worth is attached to outcom es of races , how the hell do you replace that once he's gone? It was finding it took a long time, but it was just finding something else that I can focus on and give myself purpose and now I found a really good and then even that was like it's rocky but I found making making videos and then I introduced riding bikes again to that and then that was fun and I was just enjoying the whole thing but I was uh giving myself a pat on the back for just putting in effort rather than outcomes. Yeah. I think that's been an important thing in my life. And I still remind myself of. That's the nugget, isn't it? That's the nugget the nugget of wisdom, right there. Totally. Because this is it. I mean, you you always see it with people, especially who are who have competed at high level in juniors, because I think you just you've never really known an another world other than just focus and dedication and and and that is such an incredibly valuable skill to to learn young. And I think there's almost like it I think number one you have to give yourself time to grieve in a sense because it is a loss. Especially if it not just this, but especially if you know it's come abrupt ly through an injury. Um there is a there's a s there's a massive hole, there's a sense of loss there. And I think that can't be underestimated and that just you know, time heals all wounds. But then there's also a reframing of I stop thinking I'm not as good as I was then, but be proud of what you have achieved. And also the skills. The skill set you have learned is basically dedication, focus, being able to push yourself in hard times, all of that kind of that's what that's actually what you've gained. It's not medals and podiums and all of of that kind stuff. And that, especially if he's only in university, he's young, like they are transferable skills that will take you into a lot of things, whether it's sport or whether it's academics or whatever. You can apply it to lots of things in your life. You know, you've you've walked away with a lot. Um so now it's just kind of working out what you want your next next goal to be. And that might be sport wise or it might be something else wise. That's what's life life's about, isn't it? That's the fun of life. Jimmy, you've um you've been to therapy. Yep. Is this the kind of thing you could probably just go to therapy for? Oh, you definitely could, yeah, a hundred percent. And I probably could have when I quit where it yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Well and even I could've. Like you know, I wasn't an elite racer in in any stretch, but it's still it's still hard comparing to that stuff and and trying to work out how to normalize. But yeah, that's a hundred percent something that you can get therapy for. Um but I I think Joshua should just be content that um based on all of the training that he has done rowing in his junior years, he will basically be able to get on a bike at any point in his life and be stronger than most of his mates. So just be okay with that. Yeah, keep it ticking. Keep it like don't don't stop completely. It's easier to just hold on to that fit uh that fitness, isn't it? I I I think if he does stop completely, like this is the same for you, it's the same for Nick Vieri. People that have actually been at a high level at a young age, if they do nothing for a decade, you put them into some kind of like athletic stuff, and six weeks later they are just under like national level again. And your body goes, Oh, oh, we're doing this again. Okay, fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sarah Ruggins. Sarah Ruggins. Prime example. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. What isn't that just a big um indicator that people should probably do some well, I assume it's good for you to be to be able to do that to have that skill, to come back to it. Um, but like encourage kids to do activ ity, like you want to be in that situation. Oh, yeah, totally, totally. Uh, but ideally, as you did rightly point out, everyone doesn't just go I hate this, I'm never doing exercise ever again. Still do exercise, just um the the nugget that you gave earlier, which I can't remember what it was, focus on the input, not the output, is basically what he said, wasn't it? Acknowledge the effort you put in. Yep. And it's that's not just for sports, like everything I try and I but it's constantly reminding yourself of that. Which I guess is what wisdom is. It's reminding yourself of stu ff that you know anyway. That is 100% what I always got wrong. Is I got to the point where I'd be, well, I'm not as strong as I was, therefore I, couldn't be asked doing that session because there's no point. It's not going to get me back to where I was. So I may as well just do nothing. And then that was kind of like the biggest downward spiral. Whereas actually what I should have done is just being okay with, well, yeah I am gonna do this half hour ride and I'm gonna be rubbish compared to what I comparing myself to but the positives of doing this half hour ride are huge and therefore I should keep doing it. But also you know, if he does still want to be competitive, then you almost have to see it as a as a blank slate. You said he's signed up for a grand fondo, he can't shake the feeling that it's a bit aimless 'cause he can't he can't win but he can't lose either. Well I mean correct me if I'm wrong, but usually the way people do it is they'll set a time and then if they want to, they'll they'll work to beat that time in a in a following e vent. You could do it that way, you know what I mean? Like the g ultimately if if it's your first grand fond or then set a set a time and then try and beat it next time or Or don't or don't. I'm I'm trying to make it, you know, this if he's competitive and he wants to continue doing competitive things then do that. But you have to be able to set new new benchmarks, don't you? I had a look at some some advice from the internet. Oh I swear all the good advice is yeah. Wait, that's us. It was it was from a sports psychologist and it was talking about athletics and identity and identity loss when injury or retirement occurs. And it was basically talking about separating your identity from your performance, which I think one of you guys touched on your you know, your worth as a person is not tied to your records, your medals, your performances. That's something I wish someone had told me sooner about work. I I haven't ever done it with athletic performance, but I've really, and maybe I'm not the only one who've kind of really tied my identity to work and then it it um that feels hard to separate. So I think there's, you know, there's wisdom in that for everyone. Your work always being little numbers as well. There's always a thing. It's the YouTube app. Yes. Uninstall that YouTube appear there's some people who have that the YouTube studio app on their ph one. Just get rid of that thing. I mean I still do it now. I uh you know, I'll open YouTube and I'll see how many views the podcast's on and I will t totally tie um my happiness for the next forty eight hours to to how well that's done. Make a new account without any you can switch between them. So if it's like a work thing, you want to you do want to check intentional being intentional about checking. Yep. I ex I think that's fine. But I have a burner account, which I I don't even know if it is like logged in or it's it's a thing. It's one of those Google accounts that's just like blank. And that's where I watch YouTube. And it's mostly the guitar stuff. And it does not have the podcast on. I think I've blocked a way. I've gone to Cade Media and gone like, don't recommend channel, don't recommend channel, don't recommend channel, just so I'd have a non-w ork ph one I can use. Mm-hmm. So the ways you see it and then you then your brain starts going, ooh, that number. Hmm. But also a way to not be disappointed for forty hours is to just do better. Yeah, just better every time, Emily. It needs to be at least one K views more every single upload. 100k views more every time. Yeah. Yeah. So have we answered his question? What goals did you set? I mean, I think what we've done is um when we can't tell you what goals you should set next and how you should feel less aimless, but I think I do think that a lot of people uh who are very passionate and dedicated to one thing. It's it's a double edged sw ord. 'Cause you want to try very hard but also not make it your personality at the same time. I I I mean I I haven't figured it out yet, but yeah. Maybe maybe another type of like a non I don't know what other hobbies this guy has. But I I really enjoy and I was talking talking to my ride partner in my during my very, very long ride recently about this. Um, I play guitar. When you play guitar and you you play drums, Jimmy, so it must be the same th ing. The you learn guitar and you make gains, and then it doesn't really go away. Whereas bike riding, you have to keep the volume up. Otherwise, like you lose fitness. Two weeks, two weeks you start really losing fitness of having a break. Whereas if you took two weeks off guitar, you're still the same. And you're really putting it in the bank for like the rest of it. You've learned a lifelong skill, which is cool. And there'll be loads of stuff like that. But bike riding and endurance sport is kind of well, you're you're in. You have to just keep going. You have to just constantly another session, another session, another session. And if you have a week off, then you're like, oh, I feel horrible. Like you probably get a little bit fitter, but feel horrible. And then two weeks it starts to go. I feel this anxiety if I'm trying to stay fit all the time, particularly race fit. And I remember that. And it's just like this pressure, underlying pressure and stress. So I it some people will just be able to deal with that. I don't think I deal with it very well. But I do really like playing guitar. Hobby play yeah, I do really like playing guitar. But you you how often do you play drums? And it's like it stays. It sta