The Brothers and the Back Entrance

Mm. Uh fam, we're doing that thing that we love to do where we're taking the first episode of a of a series we've recently done on Patreon and dropping it in the regular feed so you can kind of see what we're up to. Yeah, so this is the Rocky Mountain Mortician murder. Yeah. Three crazy episodes on like HBO, Max, Discovery Plus, or what have you. I know we say that sometimes, but it's like it's really crazy. You're gonna see in this episode that Jillian is worried the whole time that I'm gonna give away the big reveal at the end. I didn't do it. I didn't do it. There are so many big reveals too, they just keep I know, but that one is pretty big. It's pretty big. Stay all the way till the end of this episode to get the big reveal at the end of episode one. And then like go all of the episodes are available right now and Ad Free on Patreon. We have over 400 full Ad-Free bonus episodes there. And then at various levels we also have after parties where sometimes we talk about like other cases that we don't do. On the regular feed, we've got the hero belt here where you get the calendar. We also just did the America's Next Top Model. Three episode recap just for the Hero Bell tier. I mean that was a mess. Terra Bing sat down as though she wasn't there to be like excoriated. No, she sucks. She that stupid voice she does the worst. The worst. So check this out, I'm really like I can't even tell you what it's about because it's so nuts, but basically like you guys move into a town, they they run they're like the local neighborhood morticians. Yeah. Then there's a murder and it's like a who done it, but it's also who like who did everything. And everyone's terrible. Yeah. There's a bunch of gays. There's so many gays, there's a couple lesbians, it's pretty fun. Yeah, it's nuts. I you're looking very sick. It is nuts. It is so crazy, but like come along for the ride. Please do. Click the link in the show notes if you want to go to our Patreon and check it out what we have there. And other than that, enjoy. Enjoy. Good luck to you. And good luck to you. You know? Yeah. I have not taken your advice. I've not watched this all the way through yet. I'm only I've only watched episode one. This is insane. Yeah. Well Those of us who watched it all the way through, I guess we're on our own kids. Oh my God. Jillian Betavali. Hello, Patrick Hines. Can I make a little bit of a PSA? Sure. I went to the doctor today and got my first colonoscopy screening. I'm getting my colonoscopy in April. Right. Everyone do that. Everyone, like when you become 45, you need to get a colonoscopy. And I'm a little bit late for my first one. Okay. But I my doctor was really impressing upon me today how it used to be 55 and older, but the risks of colon cancer have gone up so much that they moved it back to 50, then they moved it back to 45. Whoa. So this is just the loving nudge. I needed it, Steve made me do it, uh, my doctor yelled at me for having not done it. If this is just like the loving nudge you need, if you know it's time, just go get your colonoscopy. Can I ask what a screen? What the screen is? Do you just sit down and they tell you what it's gonna be like, and they they you know check your vitals and then they schedule the actual appointment. And then you have to drink that stuff to get nothing. And I know the prep is gonna be awful, but I'm just gonna do it. It's just time. I'm just doing it. Like I'm Katie Kerging right now. Okay. I'm just lovingly nudging anybody who needs to. You know, sometimes you need the nudge to go to the dentist, sometimes you need the nudge to go do the thing that like You know you gotta do, but you don't wanna. This is it. That's my loving nudge from you today. Okay, thank you. That's all. Hi. Um what are we talking about today, girl? We are starting the Rocky Mountain Mortician murder. It's on HBO Max Discovery Plus, whatever. Uh this is episode one, brothers, sons, and lovers. Griffin was a pillar of the community. He was a really good funeral director. I didn't view that people would want to hurt Byron at all. Okay. Everybody's a suspect. We learned some of these people were hiding some dark secrets. It's weird. The story involves sex. They would have turkey Popeyes and watch porn. You got wealth and intrigue. The catfishing. Going into politics. What happened to all the gold? The moment We thought we had it figured out. We had another dead body on our hands. When you move to a small town, anything you want hidden doesn't stay hidden Who killed Byron? Who killed Byron Griffic? Now that's the million dollar question. Let me just say this. I watching it, so I watched it this morning and then I watched it again to to like take my notes and like do the thing. You get this is one of those really well made documentaries where when you watch it the second time, you're like, oh. Oh there's a lot. Oh, there's a lot of stuff sprinkled in throughout. There's a lot. Good, bad, and otherwise here. We got a lot going on. This is really this is what this came out, it was like You know, because now so many things come out where it's like something can be the big deal for like a day or two or a week or whatever. But this this was pretty big. There is a twist at the end of this episode that nobody saw coming. Not nobody saw it. So let's go to Florence. Lawrence, Colorado. Population 3,862. Yeah. Anthony Wright is a former resident. He basically says nothing stays hidden in a small town. When you move to a small town. There's things that You learn really fast, like Anything that You might want hidden. doesn't stay hidden. 1994 when Charles and I moved to Colorado from Salt Lake City. We wanted to be in the funeral business. And they wanted to be, you know, Anthony and his brother Charles wanted to be funeral directors. And by all accounts, they were great at it. Yeah. We meet so many like former employees, other people in the town. Townspeople. Townspeople, the non-speaking townspeople. They're like, look. They were great funeral directors. Angela's like, I had a really sick dying cat. They like came and took the cat and did whatever needed to be done. They cremated the cat, gave it back to her. Like They like they were really invested in this community. We're gonna learn in a minute. They owned like every business in town. Like they really wanted to they live together as brothers. They work together as brothers. Like they love the community. They really wanna be a part of it. And Eric, another resident, says here's the thing about morticians, death does not weigh heavily on their hearts as it does to other people who aren't in the this is their business. Yeah. They deal with death every single day. Not a job I could do. And then Larry Larry's like, yeah, they make a ton of money. Yeah. It's like a racket. Like selling the casket and coffins and We've talked about this like there are people who believe that the entire like funeral home industry is a total bracket. Like I can when I am dead, I do not care what you do with my body. Throw me in the incinerator and then look. Toss my ass shit a little bit in the theater district, a little bit in front of the Oscar Wild Memorial Bookshop where that used to be on Christopher Street. Other than that. I don't care. Yeah. It's not for us anymore. Yeah. You know what I mean? At least have like a like plan a little bit, says the girl with no plan. I don't know. But Yeah. You know, it's You still don't know what you want, right? We talked about this before. You don't you don't know if you want to be cremated or buried or what. Um I guess I'm leaning towards cremated. I just don't know. Yeah. I should be thinking about it now in these three episodes. The one thing I do not want do not put me in a m pine box and put me in the ocean. I really, really, really don't want that. Is that like That's like a thing that some people do. Okay. Yeah, I don't I I really don't want that. I would I will hustle the very shit out of anybody who does that to me. I think it's very safe to say that no one would assume that you would want that. You're saying it to me, it's either like cremation being buried or being thrown in the ocean. I really don't want that. That's not really if I die on a cruise, put me in the freezer until we get home and then I don't care. Just don't don't want the middle of the ocean thing. Noted. Okay. I don't think you were in danger of that. Okay. If I may. Thank you so much. Thank you. I'm on the record. And but Anthony says, yeah, look, the money was pouring in. But it wasn't about that. It wasn't about that. For him this was a calling. Yeah. You know, they say that like the funeral directors in these small towns are like family. It's a very intimate thing to be the one that y is called to like I've always wondered that. Like what happened. die what is the very next thing that happens. I totally get that in these small towns. Like it you might be the only funeral home. People trust you. It is this intimate thing. It it could be the worst day of your life probably. Maybe or up there at least, you know, like I get why people in small towns like this would feel a closeness to the funeral director that everybody knows. Yeah. It's like, oh God, I'm gonna have to call you one day, Anthony. Exactly. One day I'm gonna need you, buddy. Right, or someone's calling you about me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh God. Anthony, not the ocean. No. Not the ocean. I think it's okay. Okay. I just thought thirty years from now, they're gonna be like, What do they want again? Yeah, no. I know. You're not in danger of that. Um We learned about Byron Griffey, who was a funeral director slash mortician, and he did it for years and he's now retired. I look this up technically. They are two different jobs, like the funeral director and the mortician. Like the funeral director is more the face of the operation. Dealing with the family. Yeah, yeah, and the mortician. The mortician is more like behind the scenes. And small towns, communities, like there of course is a time where they're doing both, like in a small town like this. Byron was your funeral director too. He was a really good funeral. He knew what he was doing, he'd been doing it for a long time. He was a very generous person. He helped us with some equipment when we first got started. And after that we just became good friends. I was just having this thought about like Why is it? I've I'm on the record as saying that like I love you to death. If you were to die right now, I would have to get as far away from your dead body as possible. Like why are dead bodies so creepy? What is it about that? I don't know, but You shouldn't be offended. I'm not offended by that. Are people offended? I don't know, but like bodies go you go from being you to being a dead body. I know. And that like I was just thinking about these morticians, not the face of the operation, not the fun happy guy that's like. Because they are don't come from individuals. I understand it. But like technically on paper they're two different things. I just don't like you're the one that's like with the body all day. I can't I I could I don't know how anybody does that. But I also don't know why it is such a creepy thing. Isn't that what Michael C. Hall did in Six Feet Under? Wasn't he the guy down with the bodies? It's always gotta be in the why can't it be in the front room? Why's it gotta be the fucking basement? I think it's all about like the like plumbing and stuff and the cooling and like very hard. This is why I would be the um I'd be the funeral director and not the mortician. I also face for the operation right here, fam. I also am on record saying that the name Morticia for the character in the Adams family is one of the most genius. It's good. I like it. Brilliant. I'm just getting it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you think it was just like more Tisha like from the old Victorian times? The Adams family is just not really a thing for me. Yeah. So like I've not spent much time thinking about it, but now that you mention it, genius. Isn't that a perfect name? Perfect. I think it's so perfectly funny. Yeah. Anyway, um October twelfth, two thousand twelve. Oh, can I just say one more thing? Yeah. I think this is cool. Byron is like he's like the mortician guy in like the neighboring town. Yeah. And when Anthony and Charles move to town to like be like competition, Byron like really helps them. Yeah. Like gives them stuff and helps them like learn to like I like a vibe where it's like there's enough room, there's enough dead bodies for all of us. You know what I mean? There's plenty of funerals to go around. You know what I mean? The truth. I mean the one thing to all of us it's a little too true. You know what I mean? Am I opening a mortition business? No, you're not. No, okay, good. Yeah, fucking right. Rewatch Six Feet Under if you need to get a little taste. Oh no, God. So it's October 12th, 2012. It's uh lunchtime, 1215 p.m. And Anthony and his brother Charles go to meet Byron for lunch. we're away at Byron's farm. It's Byron's birthday lunch. He's not there though. Like by Byron is not like they get to the farm where he lives. They're calling him he's not answering. The gate is locked. The gate is locked. He's not there. They eventually decide to kind of just leave. Right. So they're not nearly as pissed as I would. No. An hour out of their way. Like come on. And you're just like not answering the phone. Like what? But also like don't you then go to worry? Because for me, the only the only thing would be like the guy is dead. Right. It's gotta be that. But they they don't think that they leave. They live. So now that's like noon. They're much calmer than me, I think. And they've seen it all. They're both. Neither one of them faces the business. They don't. You know what I mean? Yeah. So by 806 PM later that night, there's a 911 call and Byron is discovered dead. Nine one one one two emergency. My father in law's dead. I think you know Okay Is it bleeding anywhere? Yes I'm over You can he's cold There's like everywhere And uh we meet Lynette Griffey, his daughter, and he before we get to like all of that, we're just gonna stop with Lynette for a minute. My dad took care of everybody when I moved back home with three kids. he bought a house for us which had some land and he said it would be fun for the kids to grow up on a farm. And then at that point I met Gina, my wife. When I told my dad I was gay. He said, Well, you know, you're not alone. There's a lot of people that are. We're gonna learn eventually that Gina's wife Gina's mother also lived there. Yeah. Like the like Byr Byron took in the entire clam. And like a lot of people, it's not just that they were he was supportive of them being gay, but supportive of them getting married. Cause I think that's a very important distinction. A lot of people are supportive until you make that shit official. Yeah. And then it, you know, whatever, they're not. But he seemingly like was through and through very supportive of this. I gotta say, I've got really good lesbian dar, but like I grew up in a place called Cape Cod where as my friend Mike Jensen says everybody looks like a lesbian. So when I met Lynette here in this documentary, I I was still sh even though she looks like a lesbian, I was shocked to hear that she actually was one. Because like I think that like I just come from a place that as soon as you turn forty five, everybody cuts their hair off and wears the parka vest and Has the spiky hair and like the two little earrings. You know what I mean? Yeah. And so I I was like, oh, she's like really a lesbian. I was so thrilled. It's the real deal or the real dill. Yeah, the real dull. The real dill. There's so, there's such little gay representation in these documentaries. I even though like there's a tragedy that happened to these lesbians, I was so glad they were here. Yeah, and to hear that this our victim here was like really loving and supportive of this enormous and gay family. Gina's great, I bet her mom is great. I mean unless she's not. I'm only on episode one. I don't know. You don't know. So now let's go back to seven o'clock. The on-screen text says one hour before Byron's body discovery. I'm like, why is this worded so poorly? It's the hour before Byron's body was discovered. It feels like that was a nine hour meeting. How exactly do we say make this the clearest as possible? Or before Byron's body discovery. Have you ever heard it put that way? Well, because is there some question as to like was it a murder or a suicide? It doesn't matter. That's true. Look, I I'm with you. As long as you don't bury me at sea, I'll do whatever you say. I was like, what? I had to stop and read that and then type it and then look at it again. Like, why unless it's some grammar thing that I'm too dumb to know. But it felt even saying it one hour before Byron's body discussion. It doesn't sound right. An hour before the body. It doesn't roll off the tongue. You know what I mean? H B O. I know. H B Oh my God, am I right? And like Discovery Channel or whatever, this is your bread and butter. These documentaries get it together. Speaking of bread and butter, they're sitting down for dinner and Byron, it's a once again, everybody wants to dine with a guy on his birthday. Yep. He doesn't show up. He's not answering his phone. They say they always he always answers the phone. Yeah. So they go over to his place and like Lynette is in one area of the house, Gina's in another. Gina's like screaming for Lynette. When they call around the town and everyone knows each other, they also learn that Byron never showed up for lunch with Anthony and Charles, the brothers. So they're like, oh, so he's been missing for hours? Hours. What the fuck. And Gina finds him. She's the one that calls 911. So we meet Captain Carol Coates, formerly of the Cheryl's Department. Sheriff's Department. Also the Cheryl's Department. I love her because she's just kind of here to be like, I know this all sounds ridiculous. And it like just Can we just take it one step at a time. You know what it is. There are so many moving parts here. Carol does, I think, we don't see it, but I'm assuming she does a big GP like right before her interview starts, she goes like this. And then they start notes. One hundred percent. I don't know. There's a lot here. So she I like Carol a lot. She describes the scene. We went in. We found Byron Griffey laid out on the floor in the middle of a bedroom that was empty. He was just off the wall, probably about two and a half feet. The crime scene was very clean. I mean, there was nothing there. The family had moved out of the farmhouse. There was no forced entry or was fine a struggle of any kind. No defensive marks on him. There was very little blood. I think my words were it's weird. Like we do see a crime scene photo and like we've done this a lot, so like I can comfortably and confidently say it does look weird. It's a little like some blood on the wall and then the body, but like nothing is a mat like Normally in a murder there's blood everywhere. Or there's blood nowhere if they've tried to clean it up. This is one of those things where there's like blood on the wall and the body is laid out. Yeah and but like but there's nothing else in the room. It just looks very strange. Captain Carroll said then and now. It's weird. It's weird. So Bob Fowler, the coroner, he agrees. He says there's no weapon at the scene. Can I ask a question? Yeah. Did his family settle this town? 'Cause we're in a town called Fowler. We are? We are. Because there's two towns there's the one that. No Florence is where Anthony and Charles live. And then Fowler is the name of the town where Byron lives. Does he have roots in this town? And like did is it did his family come on the Mayflower and go like right to Colorado and settle this town? Colonize the shit out of this town? I don't know. I'm gonna get Fowler from Fowler. Wild, right? Wouldn't he have said that? We I mean maybe there wasn't enough there wasn't enough room on the screen to to present it the way HBO wanted to be. Bob Fowler, the guy who g moved here with his family and founded this place and also the corner. You need ten extra words. I know. Ten meetings without all the extra words we need to have. But I was like, oh, Fowler for the We'd never learn that. We never know the other. Yeah. Unless we do. And I didn't pay attention to that part. You know, it's just there. We're gonna learn a lot in this documentary in this episode, so we can move past this one. But he says he's like, yeah. No weapon readily available. blood splattering on the wall was not consistent with what I'm used to. This was very strange. Byron is laid out. Almost like body in a casket. And then he's laying flat on the floor, face up. He was staged. And it looked like he was staged. Like it looked like he was on his back, staged exactly. James Bullock, the district attorney, is like, oh, it was absolutely staged. Jim J. Bullock? Jim J. Bullock? Who's that? Jim J. Bullock is like the gay guy that was on like the reboot of Hollywood Squares. This guy's named James Bullock. James Bullock. The only Bullock I know is Seth Bullock from Deadwood. What about Sandra? Timothy Oliphant. And that and Sandra Bernhard, too. I didn't mean that. Sandra Bullock. Oh, Sandra Bullock. What is happening? This is a wacky documentary. I don't know what's going on. I just like I saw the word Bullock and I said Bernhardt. What a weirdo. You know it's sometimes fam. This is a good example of like it's been a long week. We've gotten a lot of snow. We're in a fancy new studio. There's just like it's a little off the rails too. There's been a lot happening like in my personal airspace. That's true. As of late, I'm just feeling it's one of those things where I'm like, is this chair solid? A hundred percent sure. Like I've I I look like six extra times before crossing the street. I'm like I'm not I don't like trust myself right now. I know, but you know what I mean? You're doing great. Thank you. It's burn it's Bullock, not burn hard. Sandra. Sandra. Right. Okay, I'm in. I'm back up. So uh he's lying flat on the floor face up like in a casket. Stage now cue Randy and scream everybody's a suspect. Everybody's a suspect. Because Byron was a pillar of the community. Everybody knew him. This is a teeny tiny town. They're looking at everybody. And as we've learned. In these towns, lots of people have lots of secrets and sometimes they're pretty big. Fam, you don't even know. Like don't say anything else. I'm not going to, but like I I screamed. Like I screamed when we get to the twist. So which I'm shocked about. I know you're so worried that I'm gonna give it away. I promise I won't. I promise I won't. Because I have a whole like thing. I know I'm not I I know that I do that to you sometimes. I'm not gonna do it today. I promise. So it's October 13th, 2012, 12 hours after Byron's body was discovered. I don't know how they worded it. I'm saying it the right way. The discovery of the body that once belonged to Byron. HBO Don't do this to me. I know. So and Georgia, Byron's friend, is like, what the hell happened? What is going on? Everyone is shocked. And and Anthony and his brother Charles are like, wait a second, we were right there. Are you telling me that he didn't answer the phone dead? Well, here's the thing. Once again, I've only seen the first episode, but Anthony and Charles, who were there, with like the body was there, but they didn't know it. They're like, why don't we turn ourselves into the FBI? It's a little thus to me. Yeah, the CBI, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation. You're absolutely right, the CBI. I'm like, okay, so what's the deal with Charles and Anthony? They're brothers, like, but we learned that they were, quote, very entwined with the community. I mean to say the least. Were they ever like so Anthony and Charles, they're half brothers. Charles, he's got a funeral business. We're gonna learn later. He's got a guitar business. He's got a restaurant on Main Street. He becomes the mayor. The mayor. Then he becomes the president of the Chamber of Commerce. Then he starts a church. These two were being awarded citizens of the year. And at the church Charles was the bishop and Anthony was the deacon. Now, may I c I don't know if I'm allowed to say this or not. But but This is when I made the realization everybody in this documentary is here except for Charles. Charles is not here. Charles is not here. Yeah, I have that note here too. Like that's in it. We don't know why yet, but Charles is not here. Okay, I don't know what that means, but like Anthony is here. Anthony's here. But Charles but Charles Charles is here. Charles the president the of the chamber of comments, the mayor and like the the deacon of this church is not here. Uh but Laura is a townsperson and parishioner. Yes. Uh they go every Sunday. And she's like the church was all about peace and love. It was like one of those good churches, you know? It's the kind of church I would literally go to. And Eric from before says So they own several businesses in town. The funeral home, they own Smashing Good Guitars. On the Main Street Grill. And they're huge collectors. They collect everything. I started collecting guitars, guns, dogs, cats, birds, horses. If I saw an animal that needed help. I took it. I even had a squirrel. Anthony had a squirrel. If an animal needed help, Anthony was taking them in. I know. These cars, they had 37 different cars, like very cool old timey. But they are weak. Right. It's so many cars, 37. I know. That there was a big bowl of keys and every morning, which is kind of fun, Anthony would like pick at random, like, oh, I guess I'm driving this one today. My only thought on that was like please let it have a keychain that tells you what car it is. Tell me you're not going around to thirty-seven cars to see which one does this turn on. Sure, yeah. They've got 19 businesses to run in a church to parishioner over. Like they can't just be willy-nilly with the car. So many cars that he's like, Oh, Where are you parking thirty seven cars? Well they have like all this land so. Whatever. So Paul We meet Paul, who's Eric's brother and Laura's son. Like Laura, Eric, and Paul are a family. You don't really need to know that yet. But like Paul is saying that Eric close with Charles and Anthony because Eric worked for them at the guitar store. And then they were like just always around. Well they bring Anthony and Charles into the family. And like Anthony and Charles are like surrogate dads to these kids. They're hiring them. Like they're using them to like do things around the funeral parlor. Yeah and like they're spending holidays together. Right. And and Paul's like, okay. Yeah. I thought they were like your bosses, but now okay, fine. But Charles would always talk about his kids and he was like really proud of his kids, but it was also really sad because they were around, but no one really knew why and no one really talked about it. Charles is estranged from the kids that he's very proud of, but we don't know why. Right. Charles is also not here, have I mentioned that. Yes. Charles is also described as the brains and Anthony is described as the bronze. Well, we describe that as the funeral director versus the mortician. I guess so, yes. Like Charles would come up with all the ideas and Tony, the one sitting down for the documentary, would be the guy to make it happen. Yeah. And now we cut back to Anthony's voluntary police interview. Right. So he's the one who's like sitting down in the CBI and like we learn from Officer Carroll, they get Byron's phone. And they see that Byron got two calls at 1243 p.m. Remember, Anthony and Charles were there trying to get Byron for lunch. These are calls from Charles' phone. Yeah. And Anthony says, look, just to be clear, like yes, we were there. Maybe around the time of his death, but just so you know, like I was closer to Byron than my brother Charles was. Like we were very, very close. We had actually only been to the farm like one or two times before this, and the last time was five months ago. Like this is a lot of information for a lunch date that never happened. Um they were like we couldn't actually also see the door where we were standing because remember the gate was locked. Yeah, and they say like they waited for fifteen or twenty minutes. They left and like the the the the CBI officers like it wasn't like this wasn't weird and they were like, honestly, like Byron had made plans to come to our house before it just like didn't show up. So they're like Byron was an older guy. He ghosted them before. Yeah, they're like not taking it personally. They don't really care. So before they go home, though, which is an hour away, they drive around this town because they're looking for Byron's house because they didn't know where it was exactly. And remember, like Byron and his whole clan had just moved out of the farm and had moved into a house downtown. So it is weird for Byron to be like, yes, meet me at the farm. I maybe I'd work there. We don't know why Byron is there, but like they didn't know where the house was. They just knew it was downtown somewhere. So they just kind of drove around the small town looking for the house. And when they couldn't, they just realized uh we'll go back home. But then we also see Charles's interview with the CBI and they're like, is Byron the kind of guy that would kill himself? He's like, yep, yes, absolutely. I would say that he absolutely would. And like Charles and Anthony have guns. And so Charles is saying that a while back. Byron asked me for a gun and he was so worried about what Byron was gonna do with that gun that he didn't give him one. And he's like, my brother Anthony would never give him a gun either. So like he definitely give him this gun. Yeah. So the brothers are thanked. They're sent home. Here's my card. Call me if you think of anything. The end. So October 16th, we get the autopsy results. The autopsy on Byron indicated that he was shot from the back. was just a single back to front gunshot wound to the neck. There was soot right on the entrance wound, which means just basically a contact wound. So you couldn't really shoot yourself the way he was shot unless somebody was holding a gun at his neck on the backside. So it's the official ruling is homicide. Yes. Which is a big deal. Yes. And Carol also tells us this was not a robbery. Like he had his watch on his phone was there. Nothing was taken because nothing was there. Yes. And this is where we learn that he was also a big collector. Byron was a huge collector. He collected stamps, coins, old money. Antiques. My dad had a secret room in the back of the garage. Only a few people knew that the room was there and he had I don't even know how many safes in there. Byron boug a lot of silver and gold coins. It was probably pretty close to a million dollars. Lynette, the daughter, is saying like most people didn't know about it. And I'm like, well, let's make a list. Who knew about that? Exactly. Lynette? Right. Gina. I'm sure Carol made a list. Cat like You know, about them. Yeah. So now let's go back a year before the murder. There was this attempted robbery of all of these valuables. People keep trying to break into Byron's house. Like somebody with knowledge of all of like the money that he's got is like trying in. And like I guess not finding it, so keep trying? Yeah, they couldn't like break into the safe or whatever. Like one of the cops is like they made more of a mess than anything. They didn't take anything, but they left this noose hanging as this like really scary threat. And we're we'll we'll learn that like this is why the family moved off the farm. Because all I'm sorry, all it would take is one attempt to break in. I'd be grabbing my nickels and I'd be out of there. Yeah. I think it was one. Well they said multiple. Multiple attempts to break it. Yeah. Like it's kind of I mean maybe at first you're like, did someone try to break him? The noose is all I need. I'm out of there. And it took us like five hours to even realize it had happened. That's crazy. I know. Absolutely terrifying. So Obviously They all have to leave. Yeah. So now we're with his daughter, Lynette. She has had a suspect from day one, from second one, this person named Corey Higgs. And the cops were called about Corey many times, we're told. When Lynette and her family were at the farm and Lynette has always been scared of Corey. I'm scared of Corey every day. I'm like, damn, who is Corey? Yeah. He's Gina's son. He's Lynette's stepson. They like he's part of the family. Life with Corey was not easy from ever. is extremely intelligent. Also violent and manipulating Corey. Pulled a knife on his siblings. He grabbed me by the neck and choked me out. When he's sixteen, seventeen. Or he went into foster care. And the court said least contact with us the better. Like w and here we learn that when he was sixteen or seventeen, he went into foster care and like the foster care system people said like the less contact with Gina and Lynette, like the better. Like the the women are saying they couldn't handle him, so they put him in the foster system. But this is my question. Do we ever learn, are Gina's kids all biological? Because I was as a foster parent, like we go through all kinds of training to handle kids just like this that go into the system. So I was unclear if he came to Gina from the foster care system and then was being put back into the system to go to another home. Or if Croy was her biological son. I was just confused about like we never hear about the dad of the kids. That's true. And and then the foster care system is brought in, which is a very, very extreme measure to take. Right. So I mean unbeliev unbelievably extreme measure to take. So there are a lot of questions here, but what the documentary is Trying to Can I just say one more thing on that? Because like w when this was going on in my family, like my mother found a place for my my brother to go live. Like that's typically what happens. For treatment. For treatment. Like you don't you don't typically take a dangerous, violent kid. out of one family and put him into another. That was confusing to me. I didn't know if we get more on that later. No, and what's interesting is that like Clearly what the documentary wants us to think, whether it's true or not, is that like this is how violent Corey was. And no question. Like the stuff that we hear about what Corey has done is terrifying. Putting a knife on like the little on like your younger sibling, terrif terrifying. Yeah. And I'm not saying I don't know the story. There are too m for me, there are too many question marks. But like it's very clear that from where Lynette and Gina are sitting, this sixteen year old was so violent that their only choice was to put him back in the foster system, which I which it just begs many questions for me. But what's interesting is Corey is in the foster system, but the foster system, according to Gina and Lynette, tell him that it would be good for him to spend time with Old Grandpa Byron. I'm just gonna say this quickly. Yeah. This to me, as somebody who was in the foster care system for a long time, feels like Corey came from their foster care system and is being put back into this system. That's what this feels like to me. We I guess we never find out about that. Right. Yeah, I no, I I that there it is not clear. Because it and it it seems like something that also would be done. Like the idea that like we don't want to like We're gonna remove him from the parent that he was with, but we're gonna keep him also in contact with this man who's like a father figure for him. And Lynette right now doesn't understand why. It's because it's crazy. Right. So she yeah, and she but it's like, well, there must be some answers, Lynette. Yeah. And Gina. Hot. So there must be some things here that we're just not being told for whatever. Yeah. But it's also like if the idea is to remove him from like the uh the younger kids, uh whatever. They're they're keeping him i in in uh Byron's life. For a minute, like Byron and Corey both seem happy about this. Well, yeah, because we're told that their relationship, like Corey needed a father figure, Byron wanted someone to nurture and take over the business, and it sounds like they were giving what each other what they really needed in some way. The thing that gets skipped over here is Lynette. Byron's daughter is like he always wanted a kid to take over the business and now he has but I love that Lynette has absolutely no interest. Which is like I mean I hear you, Lynette. I'm not taking over my parents' f funeral home business either. No. It's gotta be okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One hundred percent. No matter what it is. Even if it's like Yes. The little restaurant that the other guys or the guitar store. What it's gotta be okay. You're gonna hate this so much. I'm not putting any pressure on her, but like I want Daisy to have a podcast someday. Why? Because I love it and I think she'd be good at it. But like if she doesn't want to do it Well she says she does. When I ask her what she wants to be when she grows up, she says a cab driver, a podcaster, a teacher and a Um a waitress. What's the cab driver thing about? Who knows? Because kids are weird. Yeah. No kids are super weird. Not that like being a taxi driver is weird, but like she probably just had fun in a taxi once. No, I love I love. uh little like weirdo kid thing. Yeah. Like the weirder the better like what's that like that there was that kid who went viral who was like obsessed with vacuums that his mom like he was a vacuum for Halloween. Like oh like whatever it is. Like I might be misremembered but something like that. Totally. Give me the kid who's like gotta be the stand up old timey vacuum. Oh yeah for Halloween. Oh I love it. Give give me more stories like that. Yeah. Anyway, uh they were inseparable. Corey was like brought into the business officially. They would dress alike on funeral rooms. That's pretty cute. But everything everything was going perfect until it wasn't. That's like the theme of this entire podcast. But like things changed when Corey violently attacked his mother. Yeah, like broke her shoulder. And we also, there's there's a lot of question marks here too, because we learned that Corey was, quote, in trouble for something. We're not told what. then he gets up to get a gun that is just around in the house, not like locked up or anything, just there. Yeah. Gina step his mother steps in front of him to stop him from doing that. And Corey, quote, turns violent and breaks her shoulder. Like I just want to say this again. Like as a as a pair as a person who was in the foster care system for a long time. We never hear Gina say, I love him, but. We never hear Gina say, like, he's my son and I love him, but he can't live with us. He can't be around. I think that's on purpose. I think they're trying to make the statement here. Yeah. Good, bad, I don't know, right or wrong. I don't know, but like that is clear to me. I agree, but it it stands out as like w I want more information about how Corey came into this family. And like what was he in trouble for? Right. For this instance, right? Like this is a major thing because this changes everything for Byron. Yes. They were as thick as thieves and now they're not because Byron, of course, is gonna look at him differently. Be hard on him, treat him, you know, like Corey is dangerous and he needs help. Like he needs to not be rehomed to another family. He needs to like he needs serious treatment. So we're only hearing like the big explosive punchline. Yeah. But we're missing a lot of pieces here. Yes. For me. Yes. So Corey. Ages out of foster care. Yep. Which is how they word it. And now he listening. Which is a very real thing. Right. In my understanding is you can't like if a kid wasn't already in the system. Yeah. Let's just say I have a kid and I don't want the kid anymore. And I just give it to I'm not saying I would do this, but you can't like put a kid in the foster system who wasn't already in there. Is that right? I mean my understanding, at least in New York is that get removed from homes, you don't give your kid to the system. Like there was a woman that was I was just reading about this woman who like who gave her eight year old up for adoption because she didn't want to be a mother anymore. Oh my God. Horrendous. But you don't give the kid to the foster care system. Like kids are removed from homes. They're not given to the foster care so that's what I thought in my opinion what's happening here is that uh Corey was a kid that came to Gina through foster care. It didn't work out. He got dangerous and he's going back into the system. And I have seen this happen. Okay. I have seen it and I've seen it happen where a kid gets Fully adopted. becomes incredibly violent and puts the other kids in the home at um risk. And then it's like literally legally unadopted and goes back into this it's I mean, it is devastating and heartbreaking and make everything worse. Yeah all the way around. It's it's horrible. But to me this is what's happening here. Corey came to her from the foster care system and now he's being removed and put back into the foster care system. Because when they say that he ages out of foster care, he's on his own. He's not getting treatment anymore. He's not getting treatment anymore. He's probably getting money. When kids age out of the foster care system, at least in New York, they get m they get money from the state until they're twenty one, which is how he's able to like get a place to live. Well, and where he lives, he gets this place across the street from the farm. So what the women are saying is he absolutely would have known if Byron was there at the farm or not because he has eyes on the farm. He lives right there. And more than that, Gina and Lynette are saying like his motive for killing Byron would be because we loved him and it would make our lives terrible. Is what they're saying. So Corey is questioned by Captain Carroll and she says that she knew him from quote previous incidents. Yeah, and we hear this interview. I slept most of the day, actually. I was at my house in Fowler. Is there anybody else there? Um not during the day at about three forty-five or so. My friend I went down for play practice. I talked on the phone. I texted, but there was nobody really with you. There was nobody with me, like physically. And I have my location settings on on my cell phone. It doesn't really give an address and that's where I'm kind of running into trouble here. Carol says he lived about a mile and a half down the road. He could have walked there, killed Byron, and come back. Or left his phone so that it pings at home. Yeah, I'm I that feels like something that would you do in the middle of the day where there could be a million people seeing you on the street walking in the direction of Byron's house or I don't think we are at a place where it's a million people. We're out at the we're an Yeah, I guess so. Carol does not seem to think of Corey as a good suspect at this point. And Gina, his mother, is here to say, Carol Coates. She's a good cop, but He's a master manipulator and controls Every situation. He played her just like he does everybody else. I feel guilty being his mom and feeling the way that I feel. But I know he did it. or had something to do with it. I one hundred percent believe that. And Lynette is the same. Like there is no convincing them that anybody other than Corey did this. Right. So now we're at Byron's uh funeral a a week after his murder, and the whole town shows up and Charles says the eulogy. Well why wouldn't he? The mayor and and and the president of the chamber of commerce does the does the eulogy. And Charles and Anthony did the service, or you know, like took care of Byron's body and she and Lynette's like they did a great job. And now like Anthony's here to say like coming from a fellow funeral director, like that's high praise, like that their family would trust you. I don't know why that made me chuckle. I was like, Anthony, can you not be able to do that? It's just a world we'll never know. Exactly. It's like a world that is so far inside. I was just like, Anthony, I get it. You're great at your job. We get it. the funeral a womanes Lynette, Byron's daughter, and goes, you know, Tommy did it. And I'm like, what? Suspect number two, Tommy Tomlin. So Tommy Tomlin was Harry Tomlin's brother. They are complete polar opposites. I would trust Harry with my life. Tommy Tomlin is scary. My brother Tom McDonald did have a drug problem. Maths. Hairwin. Whatever drug was out there. Tommy was violent. He was capable of doing anything. Tommy has a a serious drug addiction. So that's really what's going on meth heroin, someone says whatever drug was out there. Yeah. Now Harry was the last person to see Byron alive before he was killed. And they are very, very good friends. Harry had done some work for Byron and was meeting Byron at the bank. Yep. And then like saw him at like right around noon. He was the last person to see him alive. So that Byron could pay him. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. So But also Byron hired Tommy, the the like ne'er do well brother for odd jobs around the farm because Tommy never had a steady job and Harry was his very dear friend. He's helping out his friend's brother who needs work. Yes. So Lynette says Tommy was around when Tommy needed money and that was All the time. And then the guy who didn't have money is suddenly flashing around hundred dollar bills and everyone's like, Where'd you get the money, Tommy? Like we hear so many stories 'cause like w somebody says, I think Lynn I think Lynette is telling us that like, yeah, did you hear about how Tommy like showed up at a party covered in blood? It was like, Hey, do y'all hear that Byron died? I'm like, that's a little on the now. You got a stack of bills with him? Yeah. Carol's like that didn't happen. The money thing apparently did happen, but like the showing up at a party all bloody and being like, hey, Byron said, anybody hear about it in May? It's so much. Yeah, yeah. Now we see Tommy's interview with law enforcement. He waves his right to a lawyer and he agrees to be interviewed and he agrees to a polygraph, but not before flirting with the cop. My Jody, what gorgeous you have. Like he's The wolf in Little Red Widing. And like this. Oh, Justice for the Wolf. That was his turf. Surely. This God love this cop who like knows how to deal with this fucking dirtbag flirting with her while he's getting a polygraph about did you murder that guy? He left Byron's house about 11 thirty, goes to a a blue house. We're gonna learn later this is a house, like an abandoned home where he does drugs with his friends. And it gets home to his house at like twelve or twelve thirty. And even though he had, quote, old money on him, which is something that Byron collected, he is maintaining he did not kill Byron and he had no part of what happened. And then Jody with the gorgeous eyes is like Well it seems pretty obvious to me that like you're not telling me the whole story. And he totally flips out. He's like terrifying. And that's like such a tactic, right? Like he's not she's not saying he failed the polygraph. It's just like she's trying to scare him into talking more, which is something they do all the time. Is it just something you're not telling me. But this guy says like I gotta Say like He's making some good points. He's like, don't you understand what hell my life is? Yes. Don't you understand that I'm fucking miserable and can never get on my feet. Like now you're gonna try to pin a murder on me. Absolutely not. Okay, I hear you, Tommy, but can you also understand that like we know that you know that this guy has money because he's helping you out all the time and like you have no alibi for the exact window when this guy dies. Right, and then they start fighting. Sorry for asking the tough questions, but then he like tells her to shut up. Yeah. Then he's like, I can do this and you can cut my junk off if I'm lying. I'm like we don't need to go there. I can ever Everyone's just take a deep breath. But he is like adamant. He did not kill Byron. He will not defend it. You know what I mean? He's like, I know you know more than I do, but I'm not sure. No, but I'm just I'm just saying like he's making I know that like you can't trust someone in this altered state, but there is a part of me that's like What is his motive here? This guy would just give him odd jobs to help out his brother who's his friend. Like he this is where this was his cash cow. Yeah. And like his life is miserable. And like honestly, all the money that he would be stealing from this guy is in like quarters and silver bars. So like it's not like money you can just like cash in unnoticed. Also, Tommy, you can walk away at any moment. Yes. You don't have like it's crazy to me that we live in a world where one that's not like common knowledge. I'm not saying it's anyone's fault but the system. I wonder if we didn't do this, if I would remember that in a moment of being questioned about something. It's built so that's the thing Or that it's so official now or whatever. You're just like you're doing that thing where you're just having a con oh you need a lawyer. Like that's gonna make us think that wh why would you need a lawyer? And also they're legally allowed to lie to you. Yes, I know. That's all that's all part of. Yeah so anyway, they take DNA from both suspects, Corey, the kid, and Tommy, but it's meaningless because as we've been told a million times, the crime scene is quote too clean. So there's nothing even like tests. Yes, exactly. So we have no DNA, no murder weapon, no fingerprints, no leads, we're stuck at square one. Captain Carol, sh what is she gonna do? Captain Carol just really doesn't know. So we get like what we get the we get the timeline, right? Once again. Harry met Byron at the bank downtown at 1210. Also, Harry Tomlin is like is like a block away from in my mouth sounding like Harry Hamlin. Oh and I keep thinking Lily Tomlin. Harry Hamlin. Yeah, yeah. Who got that? Oh my god, all the medicine with Harry Hamlin. You know, Lisa when his whole thing is like because Rob on the Traders, the finale of the Traders is tonight, so whatever I'm gonna say is outdated. But Rob every no one can like look at Rob because he's quote so hot or whatever. Boston Rob? No. Okay Rob from um like Love Island or something. Whatever, I don't care. But Lisa was a traitor with him. And he's like Is that a spoiler? Uh, not no. Everyone knows who the traders are. Oh, okay, great. I don't watch the show. No, like the view the audience, we all know who trainers are. So she was a trainer and she's like all she went on TikTok and she was like, everyone was like fawning over this guy. Like they couldn't look at him. He was so cute. And she's like, You guys forget I was immune. I have Harry Hamlet at home. She's like the sexiest man alive from whatever. She was like, I don't, like I can like actually talk with him and like strategize with him and like I wasn't falling for it. I got Harry Hamlin. That's amazing. The guy who threw his career away to play gay in like 1982, Harry Hamlin. But he then he was cut married. He had a great career after that. He did, but he he talked openly about like he didn't care. He wanted the job and I did yeah, and he like threw his like movie career away, like early in his career. What a great guy. I don't care. I have Harry Hamlin. Yeah So anyway, it not Harry Hamlin. Yeah Harry Tomlin Harry Harry Tomlin meets Byron at the bank downtown 1210. Byron tells Harry that he's going to have lunch with Anthony and Charles. We get- he gets the phone call from Charles at 1243 that he doesn't answer. So Carol is saying he was killed somewhere between 1215 and 1243. Right. Bonnie's not found until A PM because By Gina and Lynette, by the way. By Gina and eyes on the lesbians. That's almost eight hours for that other people need to account for. It's a lot of time and a lot of people who need to account for it. And I'm just gonna say this, like Gina's gonna inherit a million dollars in quarters. Like that it's not nothing. That's just the quarter. That's not the rest of the collective. I know, right? So I got my eyes on the lesbians as much as I love them. So for those eight hours, what was everybody doing? Tommy Tomlin. Tommy Not Hamlin was at an abandoned house doing drugs with a friend. Yes. Corey was home alone, sleeping, watching TV with no alibi down the road from the farm. Yes. And also. Gold is missing. It's just gone and nobody knows where it is. And remember, a year earlier, someone like violently tried to break in and left that noose as a message when they couldn't actually take the gold. After the attempted robbery, Byron calls the brothers Charles and Anthony. He's like, look, someone tried to break in. You gotta help me protect my stash because these guys are also collectors. ton of valuables, they have a ton of guns. Yes. He's like, you just need to help me out. This makes sense to Byron. He knows them, he trusts them. They're all in the funeral business. It's just not making any sense to you guys. Like Byron's got a ton of money on his property that he's like He's holding it himself. So he goes to the brothers, Anthony and Charles, who are also collectors, who were the guys who showed up and he didn't answer, and then they were like, I guess we'll just leave. They are two of the people who know about the stash of collectibles. They're gonna hold some of Byron's money there. For safekeeping. So now Eric from the guitar store has an interesting story. I ate a call at like ten o'clock at night. Charles and Tony. They're like, hey, come over and give us a hand. It was just boxes on boxes of quarters. $500 boxes of quarters from each state. I mean, I'm talking a whole truck, but. I was like, why is this all in points? Like this is ridiculous. Charles explained to me, well, if you put all your money into quarters, then it's technically a coin collection, so it can't be taxed. Technically, it's a coin collection and you don't have to pay taxes on it. This seems like something the government should look into, but also like we shouldn't worry too much about this because if you got a million dollars in quarters, A, you gotta keep it in the basement, anybody can steal it. Right. He literally had to move out of his farm because of his quarter collection. But like The point is all of these guys, these brothers that are like being voted citizen of the year every year, are dodging the taxes. Right. And may and like having kind of a scheme. And Eric is like, okay, I don't cool. Yes. But it seems like a lot of work. And all of these quarters. organized by state. Almost like it really is a coin collection. Yeah. Could it be Byron's coin collection? In a way that's like It is Byron's brain collection. Right, but like why why are they now reorganizing it without Byron and calling Eric over for help in the middle of the night? Like what like it's a weird it to me it's like, oh that's weird. I just thought Eric was helping move the quarters from Byron's place to Charles and Anthony's place. I guess so. It's another thing that's not clear. It doesn't really make it because the whole point here is that Byron moves a whole bunch of his money to Charles and Anthony's house, realizes he made no official record of it. Byron did not keep a full record of what he sent to Charles and Anthony. He called them several times. after they took the coins and said, Hey, can I come up? I need to document, you know, what I gave you. Charles and Anthony were always busy. They always had a funeral or something. It begins to paint the picture that Charles and Anthony might be hiding something. And they just never had time for that to happen. Suddenly there's lots of funerals. There was like they were really busy and like there could never be an official record of what Byron gave them and how much it was worth so that Byron could keep track of this. This is also why you don't put your life savings in quarters. This is very messy. Lots of shady shit going on. Lots of shady shit. Here's another thing that's weird. The brothers or a couple things that that are weird. The brothers show up to take Byron out for his birthday lunch and they make plans to meet at the farm, which is odd because Byron doesn't actually live there anymore. Lynette said that. She's like it'd be weird that like why would they meet there? Like it doesn't make any sense. We don't live there. Which also then to that point. Why would Corey living down the block from the farm even matter? Right, exactly. So there's that. And then I guess that's what they're saying, like they would have like he d somebody says Corey would have known that he was there, meaning like maybe he thought Corey saw him drive by. Yeah, or whatever. But also this is where Lynette said, because When being questioned by the the the CBI, the the Colorado Bureau of Investigation, Anthony and Charles are like couldn't get in we couldn't like we couldn't go to the front door to find him because the gate was locked and there was no other way to get in. And the CBI guy is like you didn't know about the back entrance and they're like no we had no idea. Cut to Lynette who's like uh when they picked up all the quarters they only came in through the back entrance. They didn't know about the front entrance. Right. Like they only use the other way. Exactly. That they are now suddenly claiming that they don't know exist. Which is such a provable lie. So then smack on screen tech, suspects three and four, Charles and Anthony. Yes. So once again, it's like what is the deal with these brothers? They like They have their their myths in everything, don't they? From the church to the funeral home to the pillars of the community to the guitar store. Like they're doing a whole lot of shit. And cheating on their taxes. Cheating on their taxes. We also learned that like we see Charles only in his interview with the CBI. Yeah. He agrees to a polygraph test. Anthony does not. But Anthony says I will give a DNA sample because DNA is just like it's it's facts, whereas polygraph is not. So fine. Fine. Yeah. I wouldn't give the polygraph either. Totally. So Laura has like a lot of wonderful things to say about them, especially Anthony. Now Laura, once again, is the mother of Eric and the other one. Yes. Yeah. So like that's the little family unit. Laura and her sons, Eric and Paul. Who like brought in the brothers together and then they call one of the sons in the at 10 o'clock. I keep saying the middle of the night is 10 o'clock. For me into the middle. Yeah. So Laura and Anthony are getting like super close. And Laura and Anthony gives Laura his phone number, which he'd never done before, he says, and I'm like, Really? Okay. Okay. They're texting, feelings are forming. Yeah. And now it's January twentieth, twenty thirteen, four months after Byron's murder. Laura Son Paul is away at school just trying to live his life. He gets a frantic call from his mother's friend who's like, bitch, call me back. We hear the voice now. You should get this thing, Doc. Your strawmark. This is so fucking annoying because his mother Laura is hysterical screaming in the background. And Mandy's like, there's drama. I I don't know if I'm even allowed to say it. Can people stop doing this to their kids? I know. He's away at college. It's not his job. I'm so sorry. If somebody's dead, it's like not his job. This is like Renee on Mobwife swoop screaming at AJ about his father. Like it just is like he's away at col Handle your shit. Grow up. I totally agree. I was so turned off by this. And for Mandy to talk to the son like he's an equal, there's drama. Yes. Like it just it irked me to no end. Also Paul's first fucking week of college. Like can he just go? Can't wait to get out of there. Like it just leave him alone. However, there really is drama. There really is. So they're calling. They're also calling Eric, the other son, who still lives in town locally, yeah. And he tracks down his mother, who is screaming in the middle of the street. Yes. And it is so bad. They have to put her in an ambulance. And it's like, oh nothing can be this bad. No, but the thing is, they don't take her to the hospital. They take her to the police station for questioning. I'm like, Laura, what did you think is going on? The last we know, she's been texting with Anthony, the funeral director. They are in love. Everything's going great. Now she's hysterical. Turns out The brothers? They're not brothers. Charles and Tony are not brothers. They're together. Lowers. We're not really close. No. How long did you know about Charles and Anthony's? Two o'clock this afternoon. They're lovers. They're l Anthony dumped Charles to be with Laura, and Laura found out today at 2 o'clock in the afternoon. Well we didn't I didn't even it doesn't end with us knowing what happened with Charles. Which also is another reason don't stop screaming hysterically and having Mandy to call your son so you can like emotionally manipulate him while you're screaming in the middle of the street. Here's the the piece of clarity I need. They are not half brothers and lovers. They're the the half brother thing is a lie. Brothers bullsh. Okay. They're strictly lovers. Oh my God. Now I have no idea why Laura is so beside herself because I don't like I'm like, is Charles dead? Is that why he's not here? Like I was personally not that surprised that the the brothers. But you know what? Mandy was right. There was drama. There was drama. As much as it pissed me off in the moment, I'm like, you know what, Mandy? You got this one. All right, but I still don't know why she's hysterical. Neither of us. I thought she killed the guy. She didn't. Okay. Sorry, she didn't. Okay, okay. Oh my gosh, girl. We did episode one of Rocky Mountain murder mystery or whatever in the city. This is wild. It's been a while since I've been like jumping up and down in my chair. Let me tell you something. Yeah. We are just getting started. It gets crazy. It gets so. You're like, you don't know which end is up. You don't know where to turn. Oh my God. The stories are the it's just, it is wild. Alright, well stay tuned, fam. I am gonna go home and watch the rest of this tonight. I am so excited. Oh my God. It's crazy. Alright, we love you. We love you, CC, please. Bye. Bye.