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UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

Preston Dennett

The Message of Kabala and Conclusion

From Taken Onboard a UFO: Five True CasesJun 12, 2026

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Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett and welcome to a new episode of UFO's in the paranormal. I call this episode taken on board a UFO five True Cases . Sightings are interesting , no doubt about that, as are landings and face to face encounters with humanoids , but when a person is taken on board a craft and meets ETs face to face , this is undeniable. These are the most extensive of all UFO cases. These are the cases with the most information that really let us know who ETs are, where they come from, why they're here, what their agenda is on our planet, and what it's like to have direct contact with them , not to mention providing an enormous amount of evidence of all kinds . And I've chosen five cases from all over the world stretching back from the nineteen fifties up to the nineteen eighties that I think really illustrate the onboard UFO experience . So I've got two cas es from the United States , two cases from South America, one in Brazil, one in Argentina , and one case from Australia . And yeah, these are super interesting as well . And I think really important that people understand that this is, in fact, happening. And that's really why I wanted to do this video because these are not only the most important of all UFO cases, but they're the most interesting as well . So let's just get started . And the first case I want to talk about I call the onboard experience of Joyce Upd . This one took place in Platte, Nebraska , beginning in the nineteen fifties and actually another experience in the nineteen sixties , which isn't unusual for a person to have multiple encounters . But this case is really interesting because I think it typifies a lot of the things we see when people have an onboard experience, particularly on how profoundly it affects a person. The main witness in this case is Joyce Updike . She's not the only witness though . Joyce grew up in North Platt, Nebraska , and had no idea that in nineteen fifty nine she had been taken on board a UFO was actually an experience in August of nineteen sixty seven that woke her up to the fact that she was a UFO contactee . One evening around to AM a UFO landed right next to her house in her farm yard . She was actually washing the house at the time when suddenly the room filled with a very bright light . I'll just quote Joyce directly. As she says I looked out the window to see where so much light was coming from. The entire yard was filled with light resembling that of welding torches . It was too bright to look at. I became very frightened. I am an extremely protective mother, but I didn't even check on my seven children to make sure that they were safe. I simply put out the lights, locked the door, and went to bed. Frankly, I never did believe that I could behave that way. It didn't seem right that I could have gone to bed, but I did. I woke up during the night with all my clothes on, and on top of the bed covers in the heat of August . Nothing quite made sense . So she didn't know what to think of this experience . Now Joyce was later interviewed by author researcher Ruth Montgomery. She wrote the book Aliens Among Us , and much of Joyce's story is presented in that book . So following this nineteen sixty seven incident , Joyce's husband didn't say anything at first , but he later admitted that he had in fact found a large burn circle in the grass next to their barn . So this was evidence that something had landed next to the house . So again, Joyce didn't know what to make of that incident , but it changed everything for her. At that time she really loved reading historical novels , but she stopped reading them and became obsessed with reading about UFO's , ESP , psychic development, rein carnation, ancient mysteries , religion, Atlantis , and these kind of topics . She also noticed some other interesting after effects. She noticed that her hair started to become quite thin . Her eyes, and also the eyes of her two year old daughter would become very red and inflamed . All kinds of psychic events began to occur. She had polterge ised like activity plaguing the household . She also began experiencing telepathy and her children too. Her children began experiencing precognition , out of body experiences , past life recall , and more. She couldn't wear watches as they would always break . She also began having experiencing also began having episodes of missing time . She worked at that time as a bookkeeper and at her job fellow employees noticed that she was a little bit different . She was always electrically charged . So that experience had a profound effect on her not only physically, but psychically . And then in nineteen eighty, after watching a TV show about unexplained phenomenon , she heard about Dr. Leo Sprinkle . He's a well known UFO researcher who also was at that time hypnotically regressing people to recover missing time. In fact, he was one of the first to ever do it . So she contacted him and made an appointment to be hypnotized . And while under trance she did recall having a benevolent onboard encounter , which she wasn't even aware of, which took place in nineteen fifty nine . And as Joyce says , I had no conscious memory of it, but it seems that it was all prearranged . It took place in North Platte, Nebraska in October . I drove my little red rambler station wagon out to the pasture to meet two space people . I was barefoot and wearing a house dress and apron . So she got out of her car and there were these two human looking men wearing spacesuits and helmets . There was a craft landed a short distance and these two men led her onboard this craft . And as Joy says in her own words , I found myself inside it on an examining table . Two men were standing at one side of the room . They appeared to have removed their bubble helmets and simply wore winged type skull caps . Their bodies appeared well formed, neither excessively short nor tall . Now she couldn't see their faces clearly , but she did see another man dressed in what looked like a doctor's outfit who began to examine her with strange instruments . She also has some memories of seeing what looked like strange sort of star maps , but the ETs did tell her that at some point there will be major earth changes and that people across the planet will be rescued . This is a message a lot of contactes get . So at this point, Leo Sprinkle hypnotized her to the nineteen sixty seven incident and she again recalled being taken from her home and onboard a craft where she was physically examined by human looking ETs . Joyce has spoken a few times about her encounters but has remained largely out of the UF O scene . And later she did actually remarry a gentleman who also turned out to be a UFO contactee . This is another thing we see quite often. So Joyce's case does illustrate a lot of the many after effects contact ease experience. So that is the onboard experience of Joyce Updike. And yeah, a very compelling case with landing traces , some really dramatic physiological effects . To me the most amazing are the psychic effects , which affected not only Joyce, but her entire family . Really interesting also that she was given warnings and messages that there will be a mass evacuation or rescue . That's certainly something a lot of contactees talk about. So a pretty compelling case all around . And here's another one that is equally compelling. I call this one the onboard experience of Alejandra Martinez de Pescucci . Of all the cases I'm present ing today, this is probably the briefest , but it's still a really interesting case . And this one occurred in Quilms, Argentina and yeah it has some interesting things to say about what it's like to have UFO contact . This next case is probably shortest of the ones in this presentation , but it's still a very interesting encounter . It occurred on july second , nineteen sixty eight , again in Quilms, Argentina . And the main witness in this case is Alejandra Martinez de Pasc and I'll just quote Alejandra directly as to what happened . As she says as always , I was walking when I reached the corner of Alvir and Save ra. I was out of my mind as if attracted by a magnetic force. I couldn't resist anything. I knew it wasn't me and that something was happening to me, as if I was being influenced. I couldn't scream or speak. I was hard, immobilized, but I didn't lose consciousness. Suddenly I saw a light that blinded me , and then, I cannot explain how, I found myself onardbo an apparatus , which was undoubtedly a flying saucer . Through the windows , inside, everything was white, totally clean , and with windows which gave off all kinds of colors . There was total silence . What I did feel was when we began to rise from the ground , I was like outside of me . I didn't respond . I just remember thinking about my children and saying What about my children ? I can't say if I thought or said anything . Inside this object there was tremendous heat . I think if I continued there I would roast This gold bracelet I have burned me. It had gotten weird. I would say burning . So yeah, she was walking outside of her home when suddenly she found herself onboard this craft. It was quite warm inside , heated up her bracelet to the point where she could feel it . And regarding the size of this room, she says, and I quote , It should be about three and a half meters , although I cannot specify anything exactly . Imagine my state, my despair, because I don't know what could have happened to me . When I tried to get calm and serene , because already I was lost, I had no choice . So she's quite disoriented and trying to figure out what's happening, really frightened , and trying to figure out where she is . And this is when she noticed that there were people inside . As she says , I saw two people who were undoubtedly not from our Earth. They had a luminous appearance . I can't describe it perfectly because the whole atmosphere inside the ship was flashing, almost blinding . One of the strangers was more than two meters tall, much taller , and the other was also tall, but not as tall as the first . By the way, of behaving the superiority of the elder over the other was noticed . I even had the feeling that one could be male and the other female only woman like me intuit that the crew emitted from their hands and feet lights as if they had spotlights . They would talk or something, they would beckon, they would shake their heads , but I couldn't notice their faces. I couldn't I couldn't tell if they were blonde or brunette , but they seemed to me that they were not from here . The only movement they made was to step on a kind of button that was in the middle of the plate on the floor . With that they moved the device . They didn't tell me anything or see anything else . With the fear I had, I tried not to lose control over myself. As I had been absorbed by the apparatus , I was thrown away. I mean, this is not explained very well, but what I do remember is that they threw me on the ground . I fell in the cemetery of Ez Paleda , and there too I suffered a terrible fear looking at so many crosses . Now I want to tell you how bad people are when one needs help, I went to the neighb ors of the cemetery saying that I wanted to return to the house but no one took note of me. They treated me like I was crazy . Then I got a taxi that brought me home, but it didn't charge me . So yeah, she was put back in a different location from where she was taken . And at first she thought it might have been another planet. She's like wondering if this is Mars, but looking around her, she saw that she was in a location not far from her home, a nearby cemetery , and she asked for help and did not receive it. Now what's really interesting is her son absolutely supports her story and he's got good reason to. I'd just like to quote her son directly. His name is Carlos A,tilio Pasc uci . And as he says , When my mom arrived something very strange happened . I was with some friends in the house and we all heard the sound of a buzzing sound, but not a tax i . I don't know what happened, and I didn't come out , but it was something very strange . I believe that the taxi driver was not such How can you not want to charge a trip from Espolita to here ? Also , as soon as my mom got out of the car, the street light burned out , and before two more on the corner where she says the UFO abducted her . Also in the corner was a hole about twenty centimeters in diameter and about thirty centimeters deep. The grass was also scorched. This didn't happen before . So it could be that this taxi driver was not a taxi at all, but was taking her home and it was a craft certainly this is what Carlos, her son, thinks might have happened and they not only heard it, but they found landing traces . It's a pretty interesting case. My heart really goes out to Alejandra for all the ridicule and disbelief she suffered following her encounter. I don't think that's really fair because the people who are claiming that this didn't happen they weren't there , they don't know and it's really difficult for a person to go through the ordeal of having such a major encounter and then to go through the aftermath of being ridiculed and disbelieved . So thankfully she did have the support of her family who experienced at least part of this encounter . And while this case wasn't super well investigated , it was recalled consciously , which that alone makes it important . And here is case which I call the onboard experience of Judy Kendall . And this case is profoundly important . This is a very early case which predated Bud Hopkin s' book Missing Time which sort of cemented the idea of on board experiences into American culture and really all over the world . This case helped verify that missing time does happen in association with a UFO encounter , and Judy Kendall, the main witness, wasn't alone in her encounter , but she did go under hypnosis , and recalled quite an extensive interaction with various types of ETs , much of what the type we would call the grays mostly . But yeah, provided some details that really helped corroborate other cases and helped move this subject forward in a big way. That alone makes this case super important . It was around six PM on november twenty sixth , nineteen seventy two when Judy Kendall , who was a twenty eight year old legal secretary , and her two younger sisters, Dan and Becky , had left their grandmother's home in Zamora , California and headed back to their mom's house in Bodega Bay . This was a trip they had taken before and usually took about two, two and a half hours, certainly no more than three But as they drove along, they were crossing a certain point in their trip. It's called the Cash Creek Bridge . This is outside of Zamora , and they were about to take a turnoff, but the turnoff never came , and at this point all of them began to feel an unnatural tiredness sweep over them . In fact, both Judy and one of her sisters said at the same time, I wonder we're not getting off the turn off . It was at that moment that they realized they were crossing the Cash Creek Bridge again , the second time, which is impossible . So they all felt really tired at this point, but somehow made it home only to discover that it was now midnight . This trip had taken twice as long as it should have . And their concerned parents actually had already called the police . Now unable to explain the lost time , they didn't know what to do about it and just kind of shelved the incident , didn't talk about it . However, it was three years later in nineteen seventy five , when Judy was watching the movie Escape to Witch Mountain . And there's a scene in this movie where the RV of the main characters is lifted up into the air , levitated. And as soon as Judy saw this, her mind flashed back to the nineteen seventy two incident and she recalled being in her car with her sisters when the car was lifted up into the air. So this is fully conscious recall of being lifted up into the air inside her vehicle, and she was really shaken by this memory , and she wondered what had happened during this missing time . And in nineteen seventy seven she saw a UFO and she decided that she was going to report it, which she did to the Center of UFO studies . This was an organization called QFO's headed by J Allen Heineck and he was quite intrigued by her report and he encouraged her to try hypnosis . So that year Judy was, in fact, hypnotized by Dr. W. C. McCall , and she recovered her memory of the missing hours . Under hypnosis, she recalled that they were crossing the Cash Creek Bridge when a strange coldness enveloped the car and at that point the car suddenly rose up into the air and was deposited inside a UFO . As soon as they found themselves inside this craft, still in the car , she and her sisters passed out . At this point, Judy does have some memory of being floated out of the car and taken to another room . And I'll just quote Judy directly and she says , I was in a room by myself . It was large and hexagon shaped. When they put me on the table, I was restrained so that my head was held tight by something that I couldn't move, and it was so painful that when I was under hypnosis I kept complaining about how bad my head hurt. There was a very pretty black haired woman who looked very human . I felt like she was there to reassure me . She was compassionate and said Don't worry, Judy I wondered how in the world she knew my name, it was like they had been watching me . There was another group of aliens who wore skin tight gray suits , had very pale white skin , and wore oxygen like masks covering most of their faces . So Judy described these very much as being like the typical gray , which is important because at that point there weren't a whole lot of descriptions of this. This was not something being discussed in the media really at all . Now, even though Judy did say she had a sheet, felt draped over her body she felt intense cold, she was unable to move . She was very concerned about her sisters because she didn't know where they were . However, looking around, she did see two small bucket seats facing what looked like a console along one wall that had little knobs on it . The short beings stood around the table that she was lying on and she said they had large kind of roundish yellow eyes . The human looking woman was quite short, about five, five and a half feet and stood to her left . To her right she saw a long hallway and looking down this hallway walking towards her , she saw a very, as she says hideous looking , six to seven foot tall being with a very large bulbous head and sort of insectoid eyes , long holes for nostrils , he had no hair, pale white skin almost to the point of being translucent . In fact, she said she could see what looked like veins and arteries . Enough to this point she was not experien cing any fear , but seeing this strange being approach her made her hysterical with fear. At that point, the human looking woman began to reassure her, saying over and over again, it's okay. It's okay . And the insectoid being began to speak to her telepathically , saying no harm will come to you . She said it was very strange because the voice was loud like coming out of a megaphone in her head and was almost machine like . So this insectoid being put his hand on her head and echoed the woman saying it's okay . And the woman again was talking to Judy saying It's okay, Judy, it's okay and again Judy was really surprised to hear that they knew her name . At this point this insectoid like being began to examine Judy's ears , studied her feet , used what she believes was a catheter to remove urine . She felt a heavy metal machine , which made a loud buzzing no ise being placed over her eyes , and she wondered if this was to scan her brain somehow . She did feel some pain as she was sort of poked and prodded, and she did complain about her head hurting , and she says she also noticed that at various points during this experience the beings would look up at each other occasionally as if silently communicating or telepathically communicating . So Judy was felt somewhat out of control at this point and she didn't find it a particularly pleasant examination as she says in her own words it was like I was a guinea pig. They just wanted to see what was going on with our bodies or something . I thought that it was maybe a scientific physical examination type of thing . They treated me like I was like we have the apes, we have mice and rats and such that we use for experiments. I felt like I was being treated as a lower level or lower class form of life than they were. It was like I was the dog and they were the master type of thing . So at one point Judy did she heard one of her younger sisters cry out next thing she knows the shorter beings are lifting her up, each grabbing an arm or leg , and they carried her out of the room and back to the car . She said it was really interesting because as they reached the car they kind of threw her up into the air, and she floated directly into the driver's seat, landing neatly behind the wheel , and looking around she saw that she was alone in the car , and she stayed that way for a short time when suddenly her sisters appeared almost as though they materialized there, so she didn't really see how they got in there , but the next thing she knew they were back on the road pass,ing over the Cash Creek Bridge for the second time. So there were some after effects. Following this encounter, Judy, like many contactiees, reported a sense of being watched and she had some ambivalent feelings about the encounter . Well, she felt that it was scary. She does not feel that the ETs were evil or trying to hurt her , and sometimes she actually felt glad that she had this encounter , but sometimes she would become frightened. Her sisters were frightened. They refused to talk about it. Judy, however, did speak at a nineteen seventy nine conference and her account has become well known was written about in a few articles. One was called Against Her Will , another was Where did the road go Most significantly, her case was reported in the book The Road to Strange UFOs, aliens and High Strangeness , but her case was one of only a handful which became known prior to Bud Hopkins' book Missing Time , which popularized the subject and opened the door for thousands of people to start talking about their own encounters . That alone makes her case very important . There's some really interesting aspects to this case. I think one that really intrigues me is the fact that while she was watching the main witness Judy, while she was watching the movie Escape to Witch Mountain and watching this car fly up into the a ir, that was a cue for her to really recall herself and her car being lifted up into this craft . This is something we see quite often when people have missing time and while she did recall this under hypnosis, the details she recalled are very much corroborated by other cases , including examination that she went through, the types of ET she saw and so forth . So yeah, an important case on several levels . And there's always another case. Here is another case which I call onboard experience of Karen Lister . I think this case is super interesting for a couple of reasons . One is that this was recalled consciously without the aid of hypnosis again with a kind of Q it provides some really interesting similarities to perhaps the Travis Walton case . This case occurred in Sydney, Australia and has some really unusual elements to it . And it also shows that the UFO experience is rarely a one off , and that's certainly true in Karen's case with encounters stretching to early childhood and onward . The main witness in this case is Karen Lister and she was only eighteen years old in January of nineteen seventy eight . At that time she was employed by an affiliate of RCA Records , and she had a very unusual experience which began with a strange compulsion to take a vacation from her accounting job and without really understanding why, she booked herself a room at a hotel. This is in Sydney, Australia . She arrived at this hotel early Friday evening and was disappointed to discover that this was not a great hotel, it was sort of dirty and run down , but the only really redeeming feature was that it did have a nice view of the coast . So she was unpacking in her room and it was around six thirty PM when she walked over to the window to take a look at the view of the coastline and this is when she saw a strange light in the sky . And I'll just quote Karen directly, as she says , It was so intense that I wondered what on earth it could be and why it didn't seem to be moving in any direction . What was it? And how could it hover there for such a long period of time . Almost as if the bright object had heard my thoughts it began to descend, getting so bright that I had to shield my eyes from it. It seemed to be so incredibly close it was now only fifty feet above the water and so bright that I just couldn't look at it without screwing up my eyes . Then nothing The next thing Karen knew she was waking up to see the cleaning lady entering her hotel room . And the cleaning lady was really surprised to see her there, apologized , and explained that she thought that Karen would have checked out of the hotel by now. Karen was puzzled by this and explained that she had actually booked this hotel for the whole weekend until Sunday . At that point, the cleaning lady looked confused and told Karen, but it is Sunday . Karen could not believe that. She was shocked. She had no memory at all of Friday night , all of Saturday day and Saturday night , but the cleaning lady said it was now Sunday morning . The cleaning lady left. Karen started to examine herself in her room. She saw that her shamp bottle, which she had brought to the hotel was now half empty . That confused her because she had no memory of using it , but she decided to check out of her room because now that it's Sunday , she returned home and verified that it was in fact Sunday and that she was missing more than twenty four hours of time . And as Karen says in her own words , there's something extremely airy about suddenly realizing that you have missed a big chunk of time which you have absolutely no recollection of It totally disorients you to a degree that you just can't think about it without creating a panic inside that feels like you're going to lose it any moment . So she met with her friends at her home and began to tell them about her missing time episode and as she was going through it, she suddenly had full recall of what happened during this missing time . So while she did have missing time, she remembered without the aid of hypnosis . And as Karen says in her own words , the very first thing I remembered was that one second I had been sitting in the chair watching the light , and the next moment I was on board something that looked like a spacecraft. Immediately ahead of me were a bunch of people . Remember, this happened in an instant , so I was in a state of utter shock to find myself in this position. I was terrified, disoriented, and like a cornered rabbit as I found myself standing there facing these people . I had no idea how I got there, no idea who these people were There were two men and three women . The men were the closest to me , and the women were just a few feet behind them, standing more or less side by side . In hindsight , they didn't look menacing at all . In fact, they were the most beautiful people I'd ever seen . They all had jet black hair and the most pearl blue piercing eyes I'd ever seen . Their skin was extremely pale and their complexion flawless . So reorienting herself and realizing that something very strange was happening she grabbed her purse, pulled the scissors out of them, and held them in front of her menacingly, telling these strange people Don't come near me, don't come any closer Now the man standing closest to her at this point raised his hand and boy Karen was shocked at what happened next Her metal scissors began to sort of curl up by themselves into a tight ball . As she says, I could not believe what I was witnessing. They kept on curling until they were wound up in the tightest curl you could imagine . So they were now useless as a weapon. She put them back in her purse , and at this point the man and the others there sort of smiled at her with mild amusement. And the man said, Don't worry we're not here to hurt you. We only need to look at something . There is no need to worry . You will be all right, I promise . So Karen at this point began to hammer them with quest ions, asking them, Who are you? How did I get here? What do you want with me? Who are you? And the man said , Don't worry about it . You won't be here long. You don't need to worry about all of that . So Karen wasn't entirely convinced , but asked them what they wanted . And the man said We just need to look at your hands Now this sounded absurd to her, but the man just sort of smiled and gestured for her to follow him. They walked out of this room , down a curved sort of upward sloping corridor into a small alcove directly off of this corridor . And as Karen says , there was a little machine there that looked like a mirrored surface. It was about two feet by two feet and he asked me to place my hand s on top of this machine as he needed to get a record . So this was really puzzling to Karen. She was absolutely astonished but followed the directions, placed her hands on this cool mirror like surface for just a few seconds until the man told her that they had what they needed and to please wait there . And this man took what Karen believes was an image of her palms down the corridor back to where she had come from They all seemed to be very excited about this. Karen was puzzled. She looked at her palms, but saw nothing unusual at this point the man led her about fifty feet down the curved corridor into another room and told her to wait there that they would be sending her home soon. So at this point, Karen found herself alone in this strange room . And as Karen says , the room was the oddest shape I have ever seen . The best I can describe it is that it was like a half diam ond with slanted walls and ceiling . To one side of the curved room there was a place to sit down, which I did . There was nothing much to look at there, no windows, and the entire room was a very odd red rust color , which I found quite irritating after a while , which was the reason I decided to do a little exploring on my own, since they'd left me here on my own for quite some time . I got up and moved to the doorway and to my left was where I'd come from, slanted downwards, but to my right was the corridor which kept winding upwards . So at this point she knew that she was probably inside some sort of craft and that the people were ETs . She was very curious . She peeked outside the corridor and decided to explore in the opposite direction from where the other people had come from. So she turned right and started walking up this winding corridor until it ended in a large room with a comfortable looking chair in the very center of the room. She walked up to the chair and brushed the arm of the chair with her fingers , and to her amazement when she did that, the walls and ceiling became transparent . She lifted her hand up quickly and the walls turned back to normal . So she put her fingers back on the arm of the chair and the same thing happened. This really intrigued her . So she sat down in the chair and she could hardly believe what happened next . And again, I'll just quote Karen directly as she says I delicately climbed into it and lay back with both hands resting on either arm of the chair. This is where I find it so incred ibly difficult to explain . No matter how many times I try and explain this, I can never do the awesome spectacle of it justice . I was alone in the universe . There were no walls, no ceiling , just myself on the chair surrounded by the beauty of space . It was the most magical moment. Whoever designed something like that surely can't be all bad. I immersed myself in the experience and hardly noticed that someone had now walked into the room with me . So at this point she saw that this was the same man who had led her to the alcove entering the room , and he did not seem to be angry or upset, but did tell her firmly to return to the room where she was supposed to be waiting . And looking at this man, she had a strong sense of famili arity like she knew him from somewhere . And she turned to follow him back and the next thing she knew she was waking up in the hotel room and the maid was waking her up. So as she described this to her friends, she remembered the scissors, ran to her purse , fished them out , and there they were just as she remembered them , and her friends were all very much impressed and this was her evidence. So she kept them very close to her, looking at them many times . She's away from home at this point. She lived in New Zealand , but she was planning on flying back there shortly . Then on february thirteenth , nineteen seventy eight, right before she was about to fly back , there was a terrorist bomb attack next to the Sydney Hilton Hotel . And Karen went to go on her flight, she had the scissors in her luggage and she prepared to board the plane , but security was very strong and she had to go through several checks of her luggage . Finally, she was cleared to go home and when she arrived home, the scissors were gone . So she lost her evidence, unfortunately . But Karen, like many contact does have recall of being taken from her home as a young child , visiting friendly human looking ETs who told her that they were her true family , but she had to stay on earth as she had a job to do . She also does remember seeing Grays as a young girl aged twelve. She had a Gray come into her bedroom , bend down and hold his face directly close to hers . She was so scared she passed out at age seventeen. She says that she was actually taken she believes to the ET's planet . So yeah, it's not certainly a one off. She's had a lot of encounters But years after her nineteen seventy eight experience, she did have an interesting encounter with a palm reader and had a startling revelation because the ETS had seemed to be very interested in their palms and she couldn't figure out why. But as Karen says , years later when I first visited a palmist , I found out that I indeed did have a very unusual marking in the center of my right hand . It is a point that is six lines that intercede all in the centre , creating a perfect cross in the dead centre of my palm it is like the star of David . So she wonders if there's a connection there , but this experience absolutely transformed her. She became very interested in UFO's and conspiracies and all kinds of esoteric subjects and currently does have a website Karen Lister . com where she talks about all of these subjects and her own experiences. So that is the onboard experience of Karen Lister. And yeah, pretty darn amazing. And once again we see how powerfully this impacts a person with her becoming intensely involved in all these esoteric subjects , UFOs, conspiracies , and so forth. It sort of becomes a mission for a lot of contactes to really get the word out about a variety of these kinds of subjects .ertainly C true in her case . And here is the last case I'd like to present to you today . This is probably the most extensive of all the onboard experiences I'm talking about today . I call this one the onboard experience of Antonio Nelso Tosca . This occurred in Chapeco, Brazil , which isn't a huge place , certainly not back when it occurred in nineteen eighty three . But it's a very compelling case There are corroborating witnesses who saw UFOs in the area at the time this gentleman was taken on board . He did remember this consciously. There's some very compelling physical evidence in the form of physiological effects and I believe electromagnetic effects . So a very interesting case also because it became super well known and is one of Brazil's in fact best verified cases and echoes some of the details we see in one of the first recorded onboard experiences that of Antonio VS Boes . So as we shall see, there are some very interesting details in this one. This next and last case is considered by many euphologists in Brazil to be one of the best verified and most important cases in the country . The main witness is Antonio Nelso Tas ka , he's a real estate agent sixty two years old at the time of his incident . And it was around eight PM on the evening of december thirteenth , nineteen eighty three , and Antonio was driving along a dirt road about three to four miles outside of the city of Chopeco , and he came upon a long, narrow craft hovering ahead of him on the road . Now as he's coming upon this he first thought it might be a bus , until he saw that this object was actually hovering just above the ground , and he continued to drive up to it, stopping his car about a hundred feet away to get a better look . And he could see now that this craft had about ten square portholes arranged in a row along the top section of this craft . The craft itself was about thirty feet long and nine feet high and long enough that it blocked the entire width of the road . It appeared to be resting on a beam of light and it glowed with this green light Seeing that this was very unusual , Antonio turned off his car, turned off the headlights, got out of the car, and walked towards this object . And he approached to within about thirty feet . At this point he could feel a strong heat emanating from the craft. This concerned him, so he started to walk backwards, keeping his eye on the object, up to his car. And he finally reached his car, still looking at this object , and he reached out and touched the car door handle to get back inside . And at this exact moment , a yellow beam of light three feet wide came from the object , swept towards him and engulfed him . And the second the light hit him, this beam , which was very unusual, began to retract back into the craft , and Antonio was shocked to see that this beam of light was actually carrying him towards this object . And he was unable to resist, unable to move or react, as he felt himself being pulled right inside of this object . As he got real close, he could see that this object was, in fact, metallic and grey in colour , and as he was pulled through the wall of this object he lost consciousness , and when he woke up he found himself laying down on a flat surface, unable to move in a very cold, dark room , and remembering what had just happened, being struck by this beam of light , he thought at first for a second that he had been pronounced dead and was buried inside a coffin . And this caused extreme fear. He began to gasp for breath, started crying , but found he was unable to call out or even move his body , and at this moment he felt a blast of warm air, heard footsteps approaching, he said it sounded like three or four people walking towards him, surrounding him , and he felt them examining his body . He could also hear them talking in a strange grunting kind of language . The next thing he knows he's being lifted up, carried , and placed on the floor of another room . And at this point the room became brightly illuminated. Although there was no direct light source, the room was well lit , and he can now see that it was a small room about eight by nine feet with rounded metallic walls. Very much like polish ed aluminum , but there were no visible doors, no windows or openings of any kind . Antonio saw that he was undressed and his clothes had been placed in a pile next to him . Now without warning , an opening appeared in the wall and in walked this beautiful woman she was very short, just under four feet tall, Antonio himself is about five foot six inches . This woman had very light shoulder length hair, a light pale complexion , very large blue, almond shaped eyes that were widely spaced on her head, kind of wrapped around the sides of her head a little bit, looked very exotic. I mean, it was clear she wasn't human . She was wearing a sort of ugly dress , according to Antonio , and she reached out her hand to him in a very friendly gesture . And it was quite strange because at this point, Antonio could hear these beautiful musical sounds in his head . He saw beautiful colours flashing through his mind's eye, and he felt this overwhelming sense of peace , joy and longing . At this point the woman began to speak to him telepath and said I am Kabala , messenger of Agali's world , I come on a mission of peace and love. So Antonio asked, Where are we ? And the woman replied We are in the ocean, one hundred and eighty meters below sea level So Antonio's mind raced at this point and he was very confused . He also realized at this point he was very thirsty . He was absolutely overwhelmed by the woman's beautiful appearance and wondered if it was the fact that this woman was so incredibly exotic and beautiful that it was making him have difficulty thinking clearly . And the woman replied to him, You will drink right , and your thirst will pass as well as your state of confusion . At this point he noticed that a three foot long apparatus of some kind with red buttons on it appeared on one of the walls , the woman pressed one of the buttons and a drawer came out of the wall . It was very strange because this drawer seemed to be part of the craft itself and she opened this drawer and pulled out these two small kind of tube like containers filled with liquid . She handed one of these containers to Antonio and told him to drink . What she did, he drank this liquid , which he said looked like water , but was somehow lighter than water, somehow different . He handed her back the container and she gave him the second container to drink, which she did and this liquid wasn't water, it was a thicker substance, tasted kind of like blackberries and was slightly acidic . So the woman took the container back, put them both in the drawer and began to speak telepathically again in Portuguese , his native language and said Now you won't feel thirsty or confused before me. It is time for us to fulfill a mission of great importance for which we have been chosen . Stay calm . At this point Antonio asked After this, will I be returned to my world ? And she said, yes but there's a right time for that. Otherwise you will be placed in a place very far from here where you live. So she told him that they had chosen him to share a message for all humanity . This confused Antonio because he was neither rich nor influential, he was nobody special, and this is what he told them. He said, You know, why did you choose me? I'm nobody . And she replied , You have always believed in extraterrestrial existence and have already desired such an encounter . So Antonio felt himself very strongly attracted to this strange woman , and at this moment a sort of couch emerged from the wall . Again it was made from the craft itself, no seams it was about three feet wide, he estimates, five feet long and fixed to the wall . The woman at this point undressed herself and lay down on the couch and looked at him invitingly. An Antonio, of course, was still undressed , he approached and lay down with her, and the two of them became intimate . And this act of intimacy was very quick , at which point she spoke out loud for the first time and said the word amore, the Portuguese word for love . And she smiled, but at the same time she also looked slightly sad. But when she smiled, Antonio could see it for the first time that she had very small, childlike teeth . They both put their clothes back on , and she told him that as a result of their union , she would be having two children . So this really affected him profoundly , and at this point she told him that they wanted him to transmit a message to the people of Earth . Antonio began to protest, said that he didn't really have a good memory , would not be a suitable spokesperson for them , and told he said , Madame , as I leave here , my mind will fail , and I will remember only a few excerpts from the message . At this point the woman approached the same apparatus on the wall, pressed another button which caused another drawer to open , and she pulled out this weird crown like device, kind of like a Tiara, which you can see here and placed it on his head . And she said , With this in your head , you will see me twice telling you the message and it will never leave your memory . And she began to sort of adjust this device on his head and then she related this very lengthy message , which I'd like to quote directly because it's a really interesting message that a lot of contactes get something along these lines . And here's the message . Warning of the messenger Kabala from the world of Agali to the Peoples of Earth The weapons of war must be immediately deactivated, capable of ending any kind of life here that exists . In addition to all its terrifying and deadly devast ation , an all out nuclear war will put the Earth off its celestial path and cause serious disturbances to the lives of neighboring worlds , some in dimensions a terrestrial man is still unaware of . The political, economic and financial dominations of nations over nations must be abolished . Imperialism contradicts the right of equality of the peoples and constitutes a new and solemn form of enslavement . The essence of human life and its natural functions of reproduction must be preserved . In nearby stars and in others unattainable to present day man , life arising from the breath of eternal spirit creator of all things God , which is why it should not be this object of imponderable experiences , because these will end in irreversible genetic disaster . It is necessary that within the strictest criterion of justice and morals, with a view to the solution of the social problems resulting from disordered human proliferation , organs must be instituted that by natural scientific means , plan and execute programs of population control , and biological improvements of man . It is necessary for man to conquer other worlds in the universe and therefore find susitable places for his future emigrations and new sources of energy in subsistence . But first he must conquer his own world , unraveling to it the enigmas that still exist on land, in the sea and in the air , preserving its vitality important natural elements , defending it from the subtle piracy of the outside , and curing its human imperfections of mind, body, and spirit . It is necessary that having heated these exhortations humanity be prepared the period of extraordinary events , of which the Earth will soon be the stage . The great events will be foreshadowed by strange taluric, electrical manifestations and celestial signs of magnificent splend or and unsettling beauty . Masters of supreme wisdom will come back to Earth, renew wonderful teachings, and help establish a new political society. The earthly paradise will be reborn full of light and love . Then, through means and energies now not even supposed , man will know the concave convex dimensions of Earth will travel to the depths of the universe and will not feel the fatigue of time . And as a sublime conquest of human creative capacity , the machine of absolute power will be put into action an ingenuity that among many other wonders will give humanity the happiest and most haunting vision in its entire history . So this is the message that she gave to all the peoples of earth, even talking about the resurrection of those who have passed away , at which point she removed the strange device, put it back in the drawer , and told Antonio peace and love . She backed up to the wall, disappearing through the wall. Antonio was now alone in the room, sadness and loneliness swept over him. The room became completely black. Antonio heard footsteps approaching, and he was led into another room, the same one where he had arrived, laid back down . The temperature dropped and he passed out. He woke up a complete inly different location, which was about one or two miles outside of the city of Chipeco . He was lying on the ground, it was now morning . He estimates about six AM , he was unable to move for almost two hours before he finally regained control of his body , at which point he got off, walked into town, and immediately called his family . They were frantic at this point because they had found his abandoned car. They had called the police in fact, who were looking for him, crisscrossing the area where he had disappeared. So returning home, Antonio explained to his family the whole story of what he remembered. They immediately took him to the Santo Antonio Hospital, where he was examined by doctor Julio Zawadiski , and other than being nervous and having some increased blood pressure, he was found to be perfectly healthy , though later that day while undressing , Antonio's family did notice a strange mark on his back . Antonio felt no pain or irritation from this mark , but it was a pretty big mark, and he went back to the doctor who said it looked like a healed scar There was no redness surrounding this mark, no swelling, even the hair around this mark was intact , so this was all quite puzzling and a closer examination revealed two small red dots on his chest, which were slightly painful , though they disappeared by the next day . The only other effect was extreme thirst and a loss of appetite which lasted for about three days and at that point Antonio vomited up this yellow liquid which tasted of that same acidic blackberry taste that he had drunk with the second container of liquid . So UFO researchers did find out about this case, investigated it in depth , interviewing the witness and asking other people in the area if they had seen anything on that night, in that area , and they did. They found two witnesses who had seen a UFO flying around in the sky on that same night Antonio was taken and in that same area . They examined Antonio's car, and they also found something interesting. The front end of the car which had been closest to the craft was magnetized in a much greater degree than the back end of his car . And another weird effect was that Antonio's car, which always had trouble starting , worked worked beautifully. It would start immediately and this was a weird effect which lasted for about ten days and then returned to normal . Another thing they also noticed was that Antonio's belt buckle and belt clip and his metal watch strap also showed themselves to be magnetized . So at some point Antonio was hypnotized to see if he could recall any other details . He couldn't recall anything else of that fully conscious experience, but he did remember that at age seventeen he had a prior UFO encounter where he had seen a ball of light which dropped down from the sky and came very close to him , and he recalled being taken at age eleven from his home by strange men who came into his bedroom . Later, Antonio did write a book about his experience. It's called a man marked by ETS , and he spoke publicly about his experiences many times until his tragic death in two thousand eight due to a car accident . And that is the final case I'm going to be talking about today . The onboard experience of Antonio Nelson Tosca , I think provides some really compelling evid ence, not only of UPO reality , but of what happens when people are taken on board . And as unusual as some of those details are , they have been echoed in other cases and not just Antonio V ias Bois , but many others . So I think it behooves us all to take these cases seriously . They're a lot more common than people realize . These five cases are just the tip of the iceberg . In fact, in nineteen ninety one, the Roper Organization, which does polling , conducted a survey and found that about one in fifty people have been taken on board a UFO show the markers of this . That's millions of people , and it echoes very closely what J Allen Heineck, the father of modern Uphology said. He estimated that it was at least one in forty people who have been taken on board . And I agree . I mean, I did not have to ask fifty people, and I found several who have been taken on board and had really dramatic encounter s. So yeah, much more common than people realize . And these five cases I think alone illustrate what exactly what it's like to have an ET contact. It shows how profoundly it can affect you on multiple levels , emotionally, physically, mentally , spiritually , and psychically. So we have a lot to learn from cases like these That's really why I wanted to present them. That's why I do this UFO research because so many people are going through these experiences and we can learn a whole lot them. So that's it for today. I really want to thank you for watching . I truly appreciate it. And until next time, keep searching for answers , keep looking for the truth , and most important , keep having fun

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