Final Thoughts and Closing

The year is nineteen ninety five. You know, we're more than just a club We're friends B friends. Nothing could ever change that The movie, the Babysitters Club Welcome to Unspooled. I am Paul Sheer, and this is a podcast about good movies, critical hits, fan favorites Musies, and in case you Mstems. Normally I'm joined by my co host, LA film critic, Amy Nicholson to talk about the films that people consider the best ever made But while she's away in canan, we are leaving our lists of the AFI and letter boox and we are focusing on one person's favorite unappreciated classic. Maybe it's a little left of center. A film simply doesn't get enough love. This is Dalers's choice where our guests get to choose what movie they need to talk about. anything goes Today we are talking about nineteen ninety five's Babyitters Club. Now, let me tell you The Babysitters Club is a massively popular series of middle grade novels by Anne M. Martin. It's a cultural institution and schcholastic and Columbia Pictures see this opportunity to translate this built in audience to the screen aiming squarely at young female demographic that Hollywood largely ignores at the time Now, the books revolve around a group of entrepreneurial middle school girls running a babysitter business in the fictional town of Stony Brook, Connecticut And What really makes these books work apparently, is the emotional lives of the girls. They're very real. And the film adaptation zeroes in on a summer story, the girls decide to start a day camp as a way to grow their business, giving the movie this clear structure while juggling multiple character arcs. To ground it in authenticity, the production leans into a relatively unknown past You have Schuler Fisk as Christie, the club's intense driven founder. You also have Larissa Olnick, who's this cool, edgy, rebellious Dawn. You have Rachelie Cook, who plays the shy artist Mary. We got a lot, a lot of ladies in this movie, and the conflicts are small, but deeply felt divorce, body image, class, differences, responsibility And the movie treats these with sincerity rather than irony. Sylistically, it sits in that like middle nineties zone between like an after school special and a glossy studio film. We'll talk about that. And when it's released in nineteen ninety five It's not a breakout hit. It's competing in a summer dominated by big studio spectacle. So on week one Mortal combat is number one, then dangerous minds, who walk in the clouds, something to talk about Waterworld, babe, the net, Apollo thirteen and coming in at number nine, the Babysitter's Club U But over time, this movie has grown. I mean, it is truly a touchstone and I would say that we will talk about this as well. Maybe sets the tone for you know, movies like Ladybird. But Anyway, it's a rare example of a ninety studio film that understands its audience isn't looking J just a great story now. this movie Well, I will tell you. It is brought to us today by someone who's fresh off an international tour. He's got a standu special, Are you Afraid of the nineties dropping on june third Please welcome Internet personersonality, comedian and this generation's most esteemed purveyor of gay science Rob Anderson, Rob, I'm so happy you're here Yes, Paul, thank you so much for having me. I am such a big fan. I am so excited to be here and to talk about the Babysitter's Club in such a deep profound way. it really needs this deep dive Well, I want to understand why you picked it because when I say to people, I'm like Give me any movies that you want. This is number one on your list. What is it about this movie that really like jumps out at you or like it just goes to the front of the pack. Yeah, it's one of those personal zeitgeist movies for me. Okay I watched it so many times on VHS tracking started to show. It's one of those like You've seen it honestly over a hundred times. You know it even ten years away from the movie, you know every line as it's about to come. It's one of those movies to me and I hadn't seen it in a bit and I did recently rewatch it and I just feel like there's so much we need to talk about. There's the girlhood aspect of it all. That's what really kind of brings it all together, you know, right The girls are there for you kind of vibe. Yeah. But all their individual stories and how they match up, there's it's there's so much to talk about. Bominia Mal steps into McDonald's looks left, sees Pulick, looks right se Senez, Gives a nod to Ronald Dinho in the corner with a FIFA World Cup meal Ronald Dinoke sees Sun in the booth, Sun finds Beckham going for extra bigig Mac saws. He's got Dav's at the table just behind him. Davy's going for his collectible cup.! A steal by Henri. 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No digging for your phone, no stopping for a map. just you and your glasses Ray Ban Meta, Iiconic sttyle, meets Meta AI, available at Walmart and other authorized retailers. school Here's the thing I thought after watching it yesterday And I was surprised by because I' never seen this. and This is like a kids version of Magnolia or like boogie knights, like we're in this world And these stories are a lot deeper than I thought they would be, right? They really resonate. and I was thinking about this because the director, Melanie Mayron Uh this is her like u orial debut, but she was starring or had starred in U thirty something kindind of feels like that, like an adult drama with these kids because we're it's small little conflicts and it's friendships. It's not like It's not like leading to some big moment, you know or even a big kiss. It's not even really about boys. It kind of blew my mind at how small it is, and I mean that in the best possible way. Yeah. and I this was the first time you've seen the movie, I'm taking it you didn't read the books, right? No, I didn't read the books. And I know of the books and I'm not like one of those people like that's for girls. I'm not into that. I'm a guy who watched Swan's Crossing. You know, I's Creek. I am up in it I like I'm not I'm I'm ready for it. I don't know why I missed the series, but I understand connection to it. Yeah. For me as a gay guy, I had to do it in secret. Like the movie Not so much because everyone was watching the movie, but the books were not something that I wanted to be seen reading, but I was obsessed with them. And the books actually go even deeper into their stories. so every book tells it from this perspective of a different babysitter, Claudia, Jessse, Marianne. And it goes much deeper into those moments. And then in the movie, it actually is a bit lighter, even though there's some gravity of like divorce and whatnot. And then they add it a lot more in the movie about boys Rys were not really a thing in the books as much, but there is a storyline that I I'm sure we'll talk about with Stacy get into it. Yeah. And mean please. yes. I mean, right because this is the one that's like, o, has this aged or has it not right? And this is the question, right? because Stacy meets this this Luca, right? That's the boy h And how old is Luca would you say? because I couldn't quite put my finger on. He's older is seventeen. Seventeen and she is thirteen, right? Yes.. And he thinks that she's sixteen Yeah No. apparently, he is so shocked that she's thirteen. Now she does look U Stacy looks the oldest of all of the babysitters. Yeah sure. They did her hair. They really teased the hell out of her hair. Like they tryed to make her look sixty But he yeah, he doesn't know she's thirteen, but there is something weird about Luo where he requests her as a babysitter Yeah. Yeah. so u what Well, it's like they have that thing where and this is, you know, as somebody who is you know, who hass grown up in this time, like you're like, oh, that's how relationships happen. It just you see somebody and you're like, I'm in love with them, right? And it's he kind of sees her immediately and She's babysitting somebody else And then they werere going to go see a movie and he's like, I have my whole life to go see movies. Yeah I want to hang out with you. And it's immediately hot and heavy. But I would say that I'm not pulling in the age that much. I mean, it get to point where I'm like, oh, yes, he's older but he isn't looking It's not like a teacher is trying to date this girl, but it is also He's a he's a junior in high school, I guess Yeah four year age gap is quite a lot when you're thirteen and as I'm saying it out loud. I'm like, o, yeah, he's a junior in high school and she's not even in high school. That's rough. Yeah, that's a rough. Or I was seventeen when I got to college. so I mean, it would even be early college. but he's French. so he gets a pass. You know, he's French And he's so sexy and it's romantic, but Stacey has a huge issue. She's got a disease Oh my goss This diabetes line is You know, and this is what I love about the movie because it's big, it is a big deal, right? But it also like it's not like the way they're like, you just got to take your medication. And like when he asked her to go on a hike, she's like, oh I didn't eat enough. you know. She didn't eat the muffin. Her mom was like, eat this muffin. and she's like, M, I can't, I'm going on a date with a French guy. and yeah has a rough time on the hike She's constantly not eating very much like I don't know if you're familiar with the Godfather I three, but Al Pacino's character is I guess like hypoglycemic. He's also having issues if he doesn't have enough sugar in his body. So yeah, like she talks about this disease as if A, she doesn't want anyone to find out Yeah, but it seems relatively easy to control. L Like a muffin does it, like a muffin does the trick. Yeah, she keeps it secret from him. She's worried about what he's gonna say. I didn't eat. That's why I fainted Sorry. it's just when my blood sugar gets low. I get kind of psycho I wish you had told me you were diabetic It's no big deal. Maybe not for you. But it makes people treat me like I'm a little kid. My mother is so overprotective. It makes me crazy to worry about her worrying about me. It's okay. I'm just glad you feel better I didn't want you to think I was sick or something or weird. I don't think you're weird Thankink you're beautiful And I will say this is her identity in the book and the movie Stacy is diabetes. That is her. That's her brand. She's always talking about it, like people judge her for it. And yah, so she's not taking care of herself and she passes out on the hike because she has low blood sugar is the villain here. Yes. I mean, and look like Finally, a movie has the courage to talk about it, you know, like there's kids out there But what and I guess this is like where my heart goes in a great I hope in a great way. It's like I like that It's something that's manageable, but you're embarrassed by because I think at this time in your life, like all these little things do mean the world. It's not that big of a deal if you're probably even fifteen, but like at thirteen it does feel like I am unlovable. I am I am diabetes. like what does that mean? And, you know, and it's and it And and I think that that's like important to show kids, like, okay, you can you can get through it. But again, I did not know that that's also like the runner of the books that she is constantly wrestling with this Oh yeah. and her age becomes an issue when they go to New York. they go on a trip together. rightight, Stacy Claudia And G all decide to go to New York City and have like a weekend trip there. It seems like it's a night out, right? Because it's sort of like, because they're from Stonybrook, Connecticut, N not a terrible drive in. They probably took a train or something like that. as a New Yorker. I'm familiar with these Connecticut kids popping in. But here's the thing that I was surprised at. The whole plan is completely spoiled because she She's in technically lying to him, right? does not telling him how old she is. like she's not she's just avoiding the conversation. I think. I don't know you know, because they go to this club and people are getting carded. Now, what are they carding? Because at seventeen, what kind of ideD are you carrying on literally Anyway. L who's yeah, they're cardings for a seventeen year old what is it a sixteen plus fifteen plus club with a bouncer that is as aggressive as somebody had like a twenty one plus club. it's like Bergghine to get into this club. And he's like, where's your cards? And he's like, o, don't worry. She's got one. She's sixteen. She's got her, I don't know, her library cards. like that's I mean that's the only thing I could think of that she could be pulling out. And she's like, Oh, I left it at. Of course you left it at home. like even at sixteen, there's no idea like's not of thing Yes, but then she does hand him an ID that shows that she's thirteen. So what ID is that? L's IDs I must have left it in my other wallet. Sorry, Come on, give her a break. She's sixteen They both are. I can't letom without ID's He It's right here. It's right here Sorry, babe, nice try. Hey, she just showed you her ID. Yeah, I know, and she ain't no sixteen. So beat it. I'm almost Sixteen. and then he's mad at her because he thought that like he kind of lied to himself. likeike everyone's lying to themselves about this sixteen year old age difference and that kind of it causes a dent in their relationship. But I will say to the creepiness factor of it because it's probably the one thing that doesn't age as well is that Lua does Like he's not like, hey, all right, let's figure it out anyway. Like, he's like, This is wrong ike he does reject her. Yeah. he does initially and then he plays the harmonica on her doorstep to get her back. Yeah He does kiss her, right? I think yeah Yeah, well they kissed. So okay, this is just the most insane part of the movie to me is they are standing in front of the door and they talk is the very end of the movie and they say, oh, this was a really great summer And she says, Oh man, I'm going to miss you. He says, Well, don't worry. I'm coming back next year. Yeah for next summer and she says Well, I'll be fourteen and he's like, I know. and then they kiss But he'll eighteen. Yeah. weirder. It actually is more aggressive. He should be like I'll kiss you this one time because we're both kids, but I'll never come back and I'll never talk to you because it's I know it's bad. Like him being eighteen and her fourteen is really worse, worse. Wse likeike like that's not romantic. That's illegal. Yeah, now we're getting into now we're getting into some very questionable behavior. Now I will say this, I was looking around because I did again, I remember the cover. I was a blockbuster video employee. And I remember this cover very clearly. Luca is and center on the babysitter's club. Yeahes, there's two posters. There's one where all the girls are laying down and looking up, but the one that was The one that I remember from when this came out. He is leaning in. Hs on hip like he's splitting the girls and I guess that was like their attempt I don't know to get the male audience or something. there's there's two boys on the cover, you know, so I mean, it's But ye I hate that because the iconic image is all of the girls laying down and there's like a top down bird's eye. But you're right The VHS cover of this was the five of them. I'm looking at it now that has two men on it who Like honestly, the one is barely in the movie, like Yeah. And it says below friends forever, but then they're making it like a romantic thing in the cover. Yeah, it feels like it's kind of like cheating off of like can't hardly wait or something. It's like this's about girls and guys. It's like the movie' called Babysitters Club. O. We know it's not gonna to be these guys. Now I am also, if we're talking about relationships Uh, I'm Now I'm forget people's names but I'm also fascinated by the magician That guy who's working so hard Yes, actually I I think I honestly can't even remember his name on top of my head. I see this movie. That's how forgettable this man is. Is it Logan? No, Logan is the love interest. Honestly, I'm going to look it up. I I'm looking at it right now and I'm like, I can't even I no idea. Buddy Barrett would that be his name? I don't know. He's very Yeah, we can puse Alen. I think that's Alen Oh my gosh, I'm looking through the IMDB and I'm like, who this is the problem with these nineties movies. Sometimes they never act again and then they're really low on the list.'s a lot and that's a lot of them in this movie. Yeah this Allen. Okay.. Eelen is this guy that played by Aaron Michael Metchek. Uh, who Also weirdly problematic. like he like in the sense that like he's a very aggressive at trying to alert, but in the worst in the worst ways, like really not He made me feel good about myself because I think that's how I was as a flirter. I was like, oh, I'll be loud and big and I'll take attention that way. So I think in one way, it's cute, but I also don't understand how at the end when he just kind of straight up asks her out, she's like, Yeahah, let's do it. Like really no. this guy no come on I think they handle the dynamics of trying having crushes and how awkward it can be around this age pretty well because all the girls are having this summer club, I'm sorry, this summer camp for the summer. All the girls are having this summer camp and that is their job through the summer and Allan comes in to do it for free just so you can get closer to Donwn. and Dwn's like, really? like this kid is so anoy like really need a restraining order against this man and now we're going to hire him to work here. And so he's like trying to impress her through throughout the movie. And I think The research driers is on them Yes, suspenders he uses like squirt flowers andes it's all a little cringe. And then at the end I think when he is honest with her and is like, hey, I've just been trying to get with you all summer and I don't know what else to do. I guess that is what makes it click for her? I mean, she I guess she's like, all right, well, whatever. I mean, I will say this and this is a reference that When you look at Allan and the thing I couldn't get out of my head was he looks a little bit like the character that Fen Stiller played in Tropic Thunder of Happy Jack because which was like his problem like Ben played a problematic character, like a character that was mentally handicapped And that's what he like, you can never do.ike And that's what he kind of is, he's looking between that and alfalfa because he is wearing need of these suspenders and his hair is. And I'm like, and I guess in my mind, I'm almost like, is this guy' cute for ninety five? I don't know how I feel like And that' I don't know. Okay, he's not. o No. No, o, simple Jack. simple Jack. sor. yees. Jack. It's so simple Jack, like the A little inbred, like a little the CN is a little messy. Yeah, I couldn't quite figure that's the hard thing for me in this. I'm like 'causeuse I'll be watching things with my wife and She'll be like, no, that guy is attractive. I'm like got it. All right, like in ninety stuff. Be in ninety stuff, it's also like in eighty stuff women look like they're thirty and ninety stuff they're looking more like they They' their own age, but I can never quite tell who should be the heartthrobin and who isn't It's always hard for me. Yeah, I think in this movie, definitely Luca is like the number one heartthrob. And then Logan's cute Logan is Marianne's love interest. Right. He's like on the side. He's very. Yeah. sos not he's poster worthy. He's on the poster, but not really getting enough of the arc in the movie. I am so mad about the poster. I actually ot that they did this. And it's such a lie because also the movie is about girlhood. Exactly. Like when the men fuck up, which is what they do all the time in this movie, the girlies are there for you. And this poster is not that. Anyway, moving on for the poster. Well, let me ask you this, which girl are you? because I'm thinking about this for myself as well. Like I'm like, who do you relate to and when you're reading these books and when you're seeing this movie? Like is there is there one person Yeah, I think I'm a mix of a couple. I am definitely Christy the lead here. I see a lot of qualities in Christy that I have. So this like leadership type who is kind of organizing everything and thinks they have it all together, but you really don't I have a lot of that in me. I also think like I don't know. when someone So her dad comes to visit her in secret because he's trying to get a job in Stonybrook and she has a baby for seret order As a sports reporter. A local Connecticut sports reporter. like the city o. Your father is full of dreams like you I'll never give them up The city is so close. There's so many more jobs. and this is like a time when newspapers are like they need sports coverage. Like he is I like expand your range just a little bit. Don't just don't try to get a local gig in Connecticut I don't think he's very good if I'm honest. like that must be why Paul because he is going in Stony Brook. I mean, what do they have L littleittle league likeike whatibly reporting on? Tuly They go to visit some baseball game at one point and he doesn't even seem well received there like by the players. doesn't even seem like they were like, Hey, it's our good friend. It's like no And he doesn't even get the job as the Stony Brook sports reporter. So he's not good enough for this Where are you off to this summer? data We weekend drip week long trip Whether you're thinking staycation or destination vacation, check out the travel section of Quint to get going in style. Throw a napa leather duffle bag in the back of your car. You got this classic old school look going on, brown leather, black leather. veryy Paul Newman. 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It just seems like he's just parked in the woods. and I think he tells I think he tells Rachel Cook just to pee behind a tree and sends her out in the middle of the night to pee there. Like I'm like All right, Th these are not good It didn't even give her a flashlight. He's like, don't worry it's safe. My my. He says, takeake a leftif at the maple. So he tells her to pee on a tree, basically Yeah, so I think some of those qualities of like you know, just keeping a secret for somebody and, you know, I think I have that in me. But then there's definitely some Christy things that are so out of this like I would never show up to this carnival she shows up to at the end of the movie to meet her dad who bails on her. And like the way she handles all of it is so, I mean, first time on earth, you know, like yes brand new energy here that is not me so much, but what about you? Well, you know, I was gonna say that I feel isty. I also feel and I'm I'm because I feel like Christia, you know, I think whenever you're doing anything and you're a self starter, you feel that leader quality. and I think that what I really identified with was How I feel like she wanted someone to take care of her, right? And that's what she was looking at her dad. but I also think that she was kind of ignoring her mom and her stepdad because they were there for her and the way she treats a stepdad u is really like I mean, she's real mean to him and he is nothing but sweet. Like he' he's not a bad stepdad. He's just He just happens to get the shrapnel from I don't know. I don't even know why. they give me no reason to think that, but I feel like I get that feeling of like her wanting to I don't know. she I think that she puts up this level of trying to be perfect and this is the part that's not perfect and she can't control it so she feels kind of out of control and everything falls apart. I don't know, I really identify with Christi and I also identify with Virtually L Cook, which is like keeping a friend secret and Just trying to make but like also knowing that that's gonna cause problems within your friends group. It's like, I can't tell you exactly why being so weird. and the friends are picking up on her like little things. I mean, I don't know I don't know why The dad's throwing her off that much. It's not like she's running out to the woods to fight him.ike it doesn't seem like it shouldn't it's not like She's not hiding anything. He's just happens to visit every now and then R like It's true. She has to drop all of her responsibilities with the summer camp. She doesn't bring her kid brother home at one point and leaves him there. Oh doesn't help Claudia. I know. It's so crazy. Wome walking home alone You Chicks someent for the camp Well, you forgot to pick up something pretty important. Ma Like your brother When you and again, Stony Brook is the most white town you can imagine. and They cut to this little boy walking. I'm like, Are they gonna kill this boy? Is it because he's' like, o, a car is gonna to just run him over. I don't know And that's the thing about this movie, like they're all of a sudden you're like, oh, nothing bad is gonna to happen.' like mayaybe it will. Like I'm creeped out by moments againgain, the camper in the middle of the woods, the peeing on the tree, the kid getting hit. and that scene in the carnival She's so L She' So I mean, again, it's a small town because she's so alone there waiting for her dad to ride this thing with her and Like that's all I was saying. He just left. It is that so bad. Like I think some of it you give him a little bit of grace. I get why he doesn't want Christy to tell the mom because she doesn't want to think that he's a deadbeat without a job, even though it's very obvious. But just to leave her at the carnival and then write her a letter being like, hope you had a good birthday got busy Well now here's the thing and I guess I don't want to I don't want to blame her because she's a child, but he did say he was going to meet up with her and then she was like, you know what? I bet you he's just going to go to the car, like she makes the second move, right? right? Because her That's true. You know, so I'm gonna blame her just a little bit Well, you can blame her even more because when they And when there's a downpour and they shut down the carnival, it's not a carnival. It's like a them small theme park. L a righter like a er likeike a Wildwood New Jersey Pier kind of vibe. I grew up in Long Island and there was a place called Adventureland and it was a small theme park and it was like the coolest thing, but it was no like it was like one fourth of a great adventure in every way. you know, and and like yeah, so I mean, I was also surprised that this town did have that. But you know, but yes, but yes, it starts pouring And then she they're like, you need everyone needs to go. And then she just runs into the carousel and gets trapped in there like Do you not have any survival skills? You should leave. You leave, you're in your own town and she's in this carousel. And again, this is another moment where the movie gets weird And we cut to this like image of like these old like like a like u Italian kind of like clowns like or like some sort of like banging a drum and just look at it like I'm like, o, she's about to get killed by the evil clown that lives in the And then she's like trapped in there and it seems like she's locked in. The carnival closes its doors on the sideite of frame. She's locked in. I'm like This movie is going to places and then I was thinking Is this just the drama that Th girls are living through and this movie articulates it, but it's like, that's the story that she would tell. And maybe the real life version is the rain just came and she got sad. But she's like, and then I was trapped and then I got here and then they wouldn't let me out. I didn't know what to do. It is part of girlhood adolescence to get trapped at the carnival. Like every girl goes through it, it's pouring rain, your dad bailed on you, Italian are leering at you. Also I you're right. There is murder in like the veins of this movie. it feels like it. It does really feel that way. It feels like if you told me like, oh, your dad was arrested because he is a famous serial killer. gotot it, of course. Of course Like you know, it's like expected Yeah. We saw coming absolutely. And I also, I mean, I'm also feeling some pressure from the young I'm just trying to remember everybody's name, A Claudia who's feeling this pressure from her parents because she's she's failing and she's got to take the summer school. and There was a pressure there that I also felt like If she didn't pass There would be hell to pay. We don't really see her parents. We hear about it and like and I'm like, oh I'm nervous. I'm like, please pass this test.le like it feels like the stakes are very, very high Yes. this is also a big with the failing of science for Claudia. Also it's important to notice the note that Claudia is Asian. And the pressure, they don't explicitly say the pressure of an Asian parent, but it's all pretty it's all very realistic in the depictions of one things where people were going through to not to be a To fail science is like Probably so horrible in general. But I mean, just the pressure she feels from intense Asian parents is it can't be understated No, and I actually thought that was really interesting how they played into it without again, the parents are not overtly mean I I have a twelve year old and a nine year old. They're both boys, which means that like emotions are Things that we pull out and we get things and we get to certain places, but I think the thing that I'm always fascinated by is Th these feelings that I have not on them in any way whatsoever. It's like my youngest son tellell something was wrong. and I couldn't quite figure out what it was. And I was like, you okay buddy? He he was like, Yeahah, and I'm like, what's going on? He's like, No, nothing, nothing. And then he started crying and I was like, What's wrong? He's like these slippers that I bought they're too big, but I don't want you to return them because I know that they cost a lot of money and I don't and I'm like, o, it wass like first of all, it' theyre ike they were essentially the version of Timu slippers. And even if they weren't, who cares? I'm just like, but I was like, o who,'ll get you new slippers. But don't tell mom, donon't tell mom, 'causeuse she wanted to give me this. It's okay And when I see those moments, it reminds me like Oh yeah, the reality is so different than perceived reality of what you're doing. and And that's and I'm trying so hard as a parent to just ul like I love you. I'm also mad that you've left rappers like hidden inside the couch. Like I can two things can be true, right? Like it's like and and I think that like this movie does a good job of like by not seeing her parents, we don't know pressure is if it's own pressure or it's them, right? Because and I think that's actually kind of good because it's like what will my parents think if I fail You know, what will I do? you know? and um, I don't know. I think that that's an important thing h, you know, in movies because it's I feel like making the parents completely evil is unrealistic as well. These are just normal things that people deal with. Are you a good student I was okay. I was okay. I have an attention issue, so I was always distracted and I was sometimes interested in other things than what I was studying. But it does feel like everything's the end of the world when you're younger. And honestly, any point in your life, Things felt serious. I look back at that and I'm like, no wasn't that bad. wasasn't that serious at all. No. it's like there's very few. I mean moments where you're like, o right, that was actually bad. or, you know, it's like, but it's I think it's just sort of like not knowing the world, right? And that's what, you know, but now meanwhile, these girls are incredibly savvy. I mean, this is the other cool thing about this movie is like They are Bus women, they're entrepreneurs. They're building up this world. and I know that's part of the whole baby Sitters Club thos, but even for their friend who's failing, it's like, you know what She a dumm We're going to create a rap we're going we're going to be smarter. We're going to create a rap song for do her work for her. Yeah. create a rap song for her, perform it. choreograph it perfectly And then that all kind of comes together. but it's like, wow. L this is a talented batch of kids. You gotta get to left the right bentles pop Yep it might fall down to the ground which cause painout Well also, thinking back actually at the Her mom her parents, Claudia, parents. They're actually quite forgiving here if I'm thinking about it because she did fail already and she needs to get C plus on her summer school exam or else she has to drop out of the club, which is makes sense., yeah, yeah. R You're not passing your classes, you can't do this extra thing that's taking up your time. Yeahes, so the song. Okaykay, this is one of those things that's ingrained in my mind. And I know it by heart because I've seen this movie so many times. but Watching it back. They don't really provide that much information In the song? No, Not enough to pass a test. Not enough to I mean, ' when she sings that song back and then fills out the entire test paper within thirty seconds, like it's not unless these questions are very easy. like they sing the brain, the brain, the center of the chain. And then she's like, oh, the brain, the center of the chain. L gl, you didn't know that. L Yeah, that't easiest partark ike the heart pumps blood to the rest of your body. She's like, Oh, it does, it does pump blood. like yeah a girl, like your mom we what are we learning here? this is like, it's a real like it's like she's not learning about the heart. She's like she's just learning about how the body works in general. It's a very general like class. It's like, yeah,s we do everything. We do heart pumps, brain thinkinks. it's yeah, it's all there Yeah And she gets a B, I think, on the test because of the song. Yes. And I like that it was not an A. I did like Yes. Yeah, they're keeping it real at the baby Sitters Club here. I would have liked ye Yeah, I' like I got a B minus and they're so psyched. They're very happy to see that And Claudia also spots an empty greenhouse. So part of them being entrepreneurs, they're all very business savvy and they decide to renovate this greenhouse and make it their new office. And I just love I love the business aspect of these girls. They're just business ladies and also supporting each other in their endeavors. I mean, I think that's why coming to the root of why I used to watch this movie so much. I just I love the different flavors of issues they have in their lives and how they all come together in the end. and you know Right now, twenty twenty six They are making money theseies. Big time. And now I know we talked about the problematic idea of like Luca dating a younger girl, but also problematic a bunch of thirteen year olds running a summer camp for children. Like we like we needed some adult supervision. but they didn't let that That' I love it. That's not even questioned. Like I mean It's not like yeah There's some conflicts. so they have a neighbor, mrs. Haberman. Oh, I love with way too much' important to note that she is played by Ellen Bernstein. Yes who an incredible job as her. I mean, Ellen never misses, but she is this slightly aggravated neighbor who has to put up with thirty five kids next door. It's also close. It seems like there is a hedge separating it. So it's just like constant noise at this abandoned greenhouse and all she's doing is dealing with like I feel like broken windows or just like balls and you know, it's like she is This is she's in a hellscape and I have to say I understand why she's like a little contankerous. And you know, she's like, this is the worst summer ever for this woman. L I thought of her as like a school teacher who was like All I want to do is just get away from the kids just for a couple weeks and just be B into it. I love the idea that she's a school teacher. like she cannot get away from screepy kids. Butre the greenhouse was actually, I think, something that they renovated that was kind of further away from where they were. I don't know the greenhouse was where the camp was. But yeah, they tear up all her She loves gardening and they all the kids tear up her flowers, they throw stink bombs at her and she is a little she is quite forgiving in all of it, but it does bring up the point They needed a business license to do this. They need yeah, there there are things and look I guess again, as a child that this is like right in my wheelhouse, like I'm about the age of a of a young girl trying to fall in love with an older Luca when this is coming out that There was no there were no rules back then. like I baby sat for like babies when I was like or not it was like, yeah, people are like, just leave them, leave them with another kid as long as they were older, it was fine. And I'm just like now as somebody who has had children, I'm like put an eight year I've never put a thirteen year old in this like it's like, it's just like You know, for young kids, like it was funny to me. I'm like, oh yeah I think this is a time where people are like, nah, whatever. they'll deal with it. And I kind of like that in a way, but it's also it' like It was very loose. It was in there and I love that u was it the silent corner that they had? They built in or the when they get in trouble, they stand that it was like a time out time out. It was called they put something there a sign up that they called it something specific. I think the best parts of this movie are the kids and summer camp, just the workks they have, invisible friends trying to get in two for one because the do the sister's really small. I love those parts of the movie. I think they kind of bring a lot of levity to these more serious things that the girls are dealing with. Yeah, because it's like I think part of it is like I was thinking, o, this is like this is gonna be like baby boom style movie or something like that, you know, where it's like, okay, we're going to see what we' And that is like just kind of what keeps them all together. But you do also see that these kids are like They are dealing with some burnout. They are getting like like like it was bigger than they thought. likeike it it starts off fun. We could do this. We have a successful thing going and then it they I feel like They realize like, you know what? it's too much too soon. Let's stick with just the regular babysitting here. you know, but I love That whole camp, like everything that's going on in that camp feels like that's another movie. I would love to see that like the The wet Hot American summer, like the meatballs version of like I was want of this live in that camp and just like my camp counselor seems weird. I don't know why she's always running off to the woods, talk to this weird old man. you know It's kind of a Rosarans and Gildmin certain of the other side Um, But I guess the other thing that I thought was kind of cool was It does still hold up. Like everything in this movie holds up like it doesn't feel like, um, Nothing feels like, oh, if they had phones, they'd be able to figure all this stuff out. Like everything kind of feels timeless here too Yeah, it does. I think the Um frustrations they feel with each other for not being honest about what's happening with Christie and then Marianne hiding that. And you're right about the dynamics with Christie and her family I think that when you're younger, you get more frustrated and mad at your support systems who are always going to be there for you and she just really wanted to be close to her dad. I feel think that really lands is so realistic, still carries today. and they don't really hit on in the movie Jesie or the storyline of Mallory toooo much. They're like the assistants or the junior babysitters. But in the book, Jessse deals with a lot of racism because like you're mentioning, this is a very, very white area Yeah. And she is one of the only black girls in every space she's in. So in the book, they really go into that perspective, but in the movie they don't at all because I mean, I guess It's a movie and they're trying to you know, wrap it up and that's more you know there's Club two. let's get it in the second, you know, like how much can you put? I mean, like the movie is very packed with story. I mean, it's not like It's not missing it, but yeah, you feel like, okay, we don't know fully like I don't know what's going on with like Kokei. Like Kokei like the one the popular girl who hates everybody, who they trap cartoon style and cement. Yeah, I will say that this is one part they added for the movie that wasn't in the books as much.. Yeah, the whole like, you know, o, we got a villain here and ye she's going to try to sabotage them. That is all, I think something they added to make the movie more interesting. It has its moments for sure. I think the her and her two sidekicks were dopey and silly. You know, I'll take it. I'll take it. I think didn't I didn't m an enemy, but an enemy that was really like done away with in the funniest moment which was just like They throw a ball, she falls up the thing and falls into a trash can and it's like she literally That's it. Got her in the trash can It's like, o, we got her in the trash can. herer legs are like up in the air in the trash can. moving on from Coie Ned. Oh man. actuallyually I just saw the actress who plays her in a Netflix like two years ago. She was in a netflix One of their many Christmas movies where Oh I love Michael Murray is a stripper for money in a small town I remember seeing I watched it because I watched those Netflix movies to kind of like make recaps on because they're so absurd. And I went Cokey Mason. and I don't think anyone else sees that actress. I think her name's Marla. Yes and goes Co Mason Yeah For me, it's such an iconic movie, The Babysitters Club that's I immediately thought of her I also like, what do you think about fashion here in the sense of like this is we're like this is going for looks. like and it's sort of like, you know, we got a lot of We got some florals, we got like different you know I feel like I actually like the way these kids are dressed. Like the way that they even look now, I'm like doesn't it doesn't age too badly. It doesn't feel weird, but maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. I mean, I was I kind of was into their styles. I mean, not necessarily the bad kids because the bad kids are wearing like real like jumpers with moons on them and stuff like that I thought the regular girls were dressed pretty cool. Yeah, it's very nineties. This is Smack Dab, middle of the nineties, ninety five. So over denim overalls with some shirts, backwards hats. like each of the girls have a different way of dressing that matches their personalities. like Mallory who is an aspiring writer. She's got and with different designs on them and Stacy who seems a little more well off, a little more manicured. She's wearing vests, you know and jeans and Marianne's got sweater vests on. They each have a different style, but it feels very classic nineties to me. I just enjoyed the saturation of the movie watching it back. Yeah fortable E though there's a a tinge of murder possibly happening. Well, I mean it's very murder she wrote, right? It's a beautiful town, but you know, things can happen. And by the way, I would love to have seen this show continue and then that's what they get into. They, Yeahah, we used to do babysitting. Now we figure out murders and they have a podcast and they're solving murders every week. I would believe it Yes. I think that if any of them were doing that, Mallory would definitely have a murder podcast right now for sure ask you a question. and this is something I wrote down that that caught me off guard Dwn is eating a giant bowl of sunflower seeds for dinner Like like like like I was like they cut to an image that is Like a full cereal bowl with no milk, Justph Sunflowower sayays like that's dinner and I was really like Is this I always have to judge it by going like, o this is a time where we don't really understand like what being a vegetarian is, but I'm like, no, it was shot in L.A. likeike we understand like this is we were ahead of that forever. likeike what But I was like when I saw that, but this movie does have some like You want some tahini? L there's things that I'm remembering and I'm like, all right Paul, I am so obsessed to I love talking about this right now because I have not spoken about this movie to anyone in such a great way that I'm so excited to talk about this. So all of these characters have their personality quirks that are fully fleshed out in the books. And so for the movie, they had to condense them, I think into something that's digestible. And so in the very beginning of the movie, Christie rattles off all those qualities each of their friends have, and Dawn is an environmentalist. And in the book, they go through it a lot more, but in the movie clearly, they're like, okay, how can we show that she is granola A bowl of sunflower seeds at a diner He's eating seeds again Straight the way every time we come here, the burgers t is exactly the same. Th you can tell us Hey Dawn, have you watered yourself lightly? What? So I was like what And by the way, that would be very expensive. It feels like that's like I buy a a pistachios and it's like twenty bucks a n. They were shelled. Yeah They were shelled. It expensive. Yeah. also I can't imagine Gas Like I would have so much gas after a bowl of sunflower seeds like that O time onene time I was like, I like Brussels sprouts. I'll make that for dinner. and I just had a bunch of brrusselsrouts. It's not good. Your body can't handle too much of anything. R. It's too much roughage, too much seeds It's gonna to be bad. I also like D Dawn was shitting her brains out. That's what's happening there. Dawn was shitting and that's covered in the place. And that is' always down shitting her brains out for the environment. You know, you got to do it for the for for mother Mother Eth. I love what they say this slide. It's like, o, she's so like, you know into earth like she would have loved to been born on Eth today, am micha All right, I guess, sure. Like Jesus wants to share the same birthday as Earth as if that is Earth's birthday, but I You know, I love I love it. I gott to give it some grace because these are kind of things these are things that twelve year olds would say about their friend who loves planet. You know, Oh, of course she was run on Earth D. I think that it feels feels right, you know, I think as an adult, we would say that. but that is a funny that is a funny bit. Yeah, like what does that mean What does that matter Heat up your fourourth of July at the Home Depot with our wide variety of grills under three hundred dollars and make every gathering one to remember Give your outdoor space a glow up. Whatever your budget is, the savings on seasonal plants starting at five dollars. With the grill fired up and your backyard set to perfection, you'll be able to invite friends and family over to kick off the party. Start celebrating with low prices guaranteed at the Home Depot. Prices may vary by stor excus of pricey Home Depot com priceash for details This is a Bose moment. 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He declines Kokei's Coi also made me laugh just to call any little I mean, I know that's a name, but I also was thinking like Coke I was thinking like a little Cokeie. like then I was like, I kind of fits. She's just a little like little does fit. Her parents knew, herer parents knew. Um, is what But yeah, no, this movie It was funny because I was I was watching in the other room and my sons who were playing Fortnite. So you couldn't you couldn't get the best juxtosition here All I hear is this What are you watching Dad because like they heard like the opening of like ' reach babyitters Cub We're busy, way. And I was like the babyysitters club like, For what? they were so like upset that I was watching the babyarch.. And I was like F, I have to watch it for Unspool Drake Well is it good And I was like, so far, we'll see. And they both came in and they sat down and they did not move and they were into it. and I was like That really W like was interesting to me because I think that It's kind of this thing where you don't get movies that really deal with like real teen issues, either's overblown or it's like too kittdy. And this kind of falls right in the middle. So I feel like they're looking like They're looking at girls who are about their age. They' about the boys or're about their age. I was blown away by them The just slack jawed watching this without any negativity. Adm all. Inredible. Yeah. So I was like that was really like And I feel like that was the staying power of this movie in a way. I was like this is Pretty. Nuts there they're on board. Now did I have to field a million questions about diabetes afterwards? Absolutely. You they have questions about it. o. Oh yeah, yeah, they want to know, like could I get diabetes? I mean it's so fun The movie does make it seem like something that you need to watch out for. Like AIDS. It's like you might A Yeah you might diabetes does feel like it is delated. It's for babysitters Really? I mean, we're joking, but they it's kind of how they treated it in this movie. Like it really is the end all be all of her life, you know? And it's and it's, you know, it's like you got to tell them that you have diabetes. likeike you can't watch kids without letting them know. So what did tell what did you tell them about diabetes? You know and as much as I could speak , you know, off the top of my head about dease. and I was like, I don't think you have to worry about it. It is a disease that people deal with. it is And then it was like, it is very manageable. You see in the movie it is manageable. I was like, so if you get, but it's I don't think you have to be worried about it right now. And you know, I just kind to the gery They're like eating muffins. They're like, I gott toat muffins to get rid of diabetes. I can't get this diabetes. I just can't get it. Oh Oh, I love that. No, it is that movie there is something magnetic about the premise of it but all the things they're going through. and I remember even at this time. So I was a closeted gay kid. I mean, I loved the idea of girlhood. I couldn't have American girl dolls because we had even ask my mom for them, but I would not be seen with a doll. like boys didn't have dolls. right. And I think this was like the one thing that I could watch that felt like I could out loud watch it. So I was just obsessed with the girls, the girlies being with the girlies. Yeah So it's interesting that it's like, Anyone that age kind of just finds this to be Interesting, you know, to watch I think it's always like like we watch Aventures and babysitting and they went bananas for it. They love Aventures and bab Another babysitting movie. Again, the babysitting is getting a lot of play. You know, but I also know like you're so amazing at like breaking down You know, this culture of the nineties. and I was thinking about this. This is like we said, it's right in the center But as you've been watching these movies and TV shows and things like that, have you like been able to at all? And if I'm setting up for assuming you don't have an answer, we can move fast, but is there any kind of breakdown of where the nineties live? like where it's like, oh, the beginning was a little bit more like this, the middle got like this and the end we're getting here? L I'm just curious these being a little bit fresher in your mind. Yeah, I guess it depends on what genres were're discussing here because if we're talking about kids movies or young adult movies, I think that they I think they stayed pretty consistent throughout the decade. We had like Homeward Bound and Kid in King Arthur's courourt and these like adventure type movies where, you know, there's kids that go on some sort of adventure I guessanj's in there too, you know, that idea where it's like this fantastical journey, right? It's like there like Narnia, but not Narnia, right? know,'s like they're just going out there doing something And parents are never involved. Like I think that's why this babysitting theme is maybe attractive to kids is like parents are gone. You know, let's have a summer camp or don't tell mom the babysitter's dead and I'm going to get a job. And there's all these okay, home alone, parents aren't around. No let's have fun. And that's a lot of the nineties kids movies or Right. It's like they're just they're dealing with something that maybe they're over their head with and we're always going to learn a little bit because the moral will be You should have talked to your parents about this earlier. You would have gotten like right now but it's like they're not trying to tell you that, right? It's sort of like it's like it it let's you kind of put that moral together. because I'm also thinking about movies like They they in the nineties, I mean, this is my These are This is my jam as far as like Wow, you got weird ideas coming out at all times. And you got some great classics, but just like Yeah, this is the nineties is a time where you could make a movie where like Al Pacino's the devil trying to like convert Giano Reeves and then you have Michael Douglas who just has a bad day and starts killing people around LA and you know, And then meanwhile Kevin Costner is, you know, in a world of water. It's like these are like if you were to pitch them, you're like, oh, you could never get any of these movies made now. It's like American Beauty even. it's like, oh, that's creepy. I don't know if would do that. Like, you know, but you were like these movies were It was like and this is what was like front and center at the fear. It was like we're going hard And I love, I mean that's what I love about these and I feel like it's almost messed up my own version of like what I like because When I think is popular, people look back on go, that was trash. I'm like, Yeah,' talking about this is amazing Parts of it probably were trash. R. But we have an attachment to them that they'll always be incredible to us. Totally they were making they were taking big swings in the nineties. They were just going for it because we didn't have this highly critical social media atmosphere that was picking things apart. now we start making media knowing that it can be picked apart online and avoiding some of those things. So I love it's a very pure time. we really were putting things out there that we just wanted, you know, they were putting them out there just for people to see it and it's something they wanted to make. One of the things I always joke about is When my kids were in preschool, the teacher said this thing and my wife and I say it now all the time. and she's like, you get what you get and you don't get upset. And that's how I felt about movies. You got what you got, you don't get like there's no choice. You're going. every movie, I remember an adult said to me like, you like everything. I'm like, is there any other choice?ike I didn't know that you couldn't like a movie. It's like, I'm in. I am on board with this. I better be that way. Like't you want that way? Wouldn't you prefer to be that way? I mean, Yes. As you get older, you start becoming someone that likes things a certain way. and I'm trying to avoid that. Like you fly lay down on a flight once and now you can't ever go back again. I don't want to do that with movies. No. And I feel like that's the thing I feel like you always have to find gym, like I also believe this The fact that a movie is made requires so much attention to like it has to be good on some level like it's idea like, shoot these movies out. like cared. No the process of making the movie is too hard for people not to care. Now did it always get executed the right way? I don't know. It seems to me This franchise does a very good job of intntroducing a world and characters and big but also not like breaking free. It's like they don't find a closet and go to Narnia. They are just running a summer camp. It's a summer movie. It feels like they, you know, but the tremendous pressures that you're under to cast these people to make it look right. And you have these girls who are fans of the series. They're in this for the first time, like feeling like pressure like this Harry Potter pressure in a weird way because that, I would imagine is the hardest thing to do. Like Rachelie Cook grew up loving these books and I was in it, you know, and having to play this. I thought that was, you know, so interesting Yeah And at the end of the movie, like you're saying, it doesn't, there's not this miraculous discovery. It actually they' all Hovered around Christie, who's just dealt with her deadbeat dad abandoning her at the pier. and the monster. Rember usedide the monster. The monster, That was it. That was the roll. The monster basically, again, small town amusement park, but that monster sign that she is waiting under for like it looks like someone made it like it's like car wasash sign. It is a hand painted sign. I'm like, donon't go on any of theseides I don't trust them. No like come on. they are not screw in those bolts for the monster. That is someone's going to die on the monster. And at the end she after all this She's like, you guys are gring up, you must hate me. I can't belie you're friend with me. And're like, you know what? You messed up this summer, but this was your summer to have this. And then next summer it be one of ours. And I'm like, that's real. You know, they're keeping it real at the end of this By the way,, the woman who plays Christie is Schuler Fisk. Who is Cissy Spaceix's daughter And, um So the way that she was cast was Cissy Spaceic read the scenes with her like was the other babysitter in like the audition scenes Like so I love I would love to have seen that tape of Cissy Spaceic reading off of Schuler for this part. Like just, I mean, talk about a great acting partner. Oh my God. I why can't we see that? Why did we see Joe Jo Sia's audition for What was the movie that she auditioned for that that went that leaked Oh I all I can think of is a Chryistal tangle Oh my God I need to It was like, I mean, you don't really need to see it, but it's like if you're curious, she is doing a, you know a read for tangled and it's not good. wouldould have loved to see Cissy Spaceic as a babysitter. Did you and if not, I can't wait to tell you about, have you seen Chris Klein's audition for election No. So this leaked a couple of years ago, probably even longer than that. and oh, sorry, it's Chris Klein's audition For another movie. damn hold on. I gott to tell you because it's worth it. It's Mama Mia. Okay. I'm gonna I'm going to actually share screen here with you because this is this is going to blow your mind. And I look, as an actor who is auditioned and I would never want my audition tapes out there, I have a I have such sympathy for this, but I also as somebody who likes funny things think this is probably one of the best things I've ever seen in my life U and here we go Hey, by the way, you guys have Mandy Morren here She is an angel of all angels. I don't know if you guys saw American Dreams that her and I did together where I two sing, hopefully better here than I did there. That was acting. This may be slight singing, but she is just a dream come true. You should hire her on the spot. She's amazing. Anyway, that's my own personal I love Mandy Moore scenario. Let's go, shall we? Before I embarrass myself for He this. Here we go. I wasn't jealous before we met. Now every man that I see is a potential threat No. And I'm possessive it isn't nice. You heard me saying that smoking was my only vice But now it isn't true. Oh no. Now everything is new And all I've learned has overturned my bag of you. Oh my god. So there you go just a little bit. Wow. Oh wow, and this is a four minute clip by the way. Yeah it keeps all going Wow. I mean I I would have tried to bury that. I wouldn't have allowed that to hit YouTube. by the way we should punish the casting director who let that out. Bake liively was very active at trying to kill the daies where it ends with that's more for lawsuit issues. but this when I saw I was like, oh Godd. no Yeah. we don't what other reason would there be to release that other than to embarrass Chris Kleine? which he seems like a nice guy, you know? That's the thing about it that I think is actually lovely. like he is talking about Mandy Moore and it's like like it's sweet.ike it's sweet and it's He's sweet. I have he's not bad and look, if you made me sing Aa, I would mess it up as bad as that. You know, we all want to work. We all want to keep things going. Wow. So this has been amazing chatting with you about this. I I also just want to, you know, as we've talked about the Baby Serice Club, it's a movie that, you know, I think in even in the last day when I've told people I'm doing it, they've been so excited about it.. It was one of those things where even when we talked to our mutual friends and they were like You really want to do it? It' like, abbsolutely, it was your number one choice and I was like, There's no doubt in my mind. It is the one that we have to do and, um, And I think it like I feel like this is one of those movies that just like lives in in your insights when you're a kid, like you have these like, I watch that movie a billion times. It's there. It's like a go to movie And I just want to know because again You do such great breakdowns. What are other movies that you would like what's your little bit of your rush moreore, your ninetyies rush moreore, I would say, of like uh, they don't have to be the best movies, but just movies that you enjoy like like this. U, I heavyweight is up there. going along the lines of the theme of your parents are gone and you're having a good time. Yeah. I don I guess I just loved summer camp movies because u Camp nowhere was is also up Yeah. Did you like salute your shorts? Have you ever watched shorts and Nickel I mean. I was a big Nickelodeon guy because we Disney channel was an upgrade and my parents wouldn't pay for it So everything Nickelodeon is mine and I missed out on everything Disney, but I've been rew watchatching those lately. No, but me too. I mean, Nickelodeon was like the Nickelodeon is mad TV to SNLs to SNL, right? It was like they did things differently and the kids were a little bit. like my parents like forbid me to watch you can't do that on television. just stop can't watch a Sky Barf anymore. They were like, what is this? This is like so offended. like But Nickelodeon pushed it. I feel like they were always a little bit moreue not blue, but just like They're more hard edged Yeah, they didn't have this like massive corporation behind them making sure that it was manicured in a way. And so you know, you got some misses here and there, but I watched everything on N Callodeon U What else from theountain Mighty Morph from Power Rangers. O Okay, yes, great. The movie that came out was a big one for me, Ivan Os, gay icon Brave Little Toaster. I saw that one a ton traumatic. L it. Did you get into Brave Little Toaster? I did. I did and like these are the movies that broke you. L like my was it my robot or Gent bigig robot the whatever the robot movie that's from the nineties twoent I'm messing it up Iron giant, sorry, well. Okay. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Right. These are movies, but then I mean, I we noody's business at that new robot movie that was like the robot is like left in the woods with a little baby and I can't remember the name of it right now, but it just came out like last year it's the baby duck that flies away. Yes, yeah I mean these I am predisposed. I will cry at anything. I will cry at this movie. I like like I The wild robot Wild robot. Yes. See the giant ye, Iron ye, Iron giant, wild robot U will cry like movies like this make me cry. I think I like to come to movies like this because it kind of U like even when her dad who's a complete scumbag and and like ditches her on a birthday and is hiding out in a van, like when he does write that letter, I mean, it is a letter too. It's not even like a final like moment. L it's like he's just like, man. she's like and he writes more letters now. Like that's all she gets is just a couple more couple more letters Yeah, it' and that's better than it was before, but I think it's just You know, it's this lesson you can't trust men You get what you get and you don't get upset from your dads. That's it. You get what you get and you don't get upset. You know, when you rattle off all the movies that this came ninefender or the box office, that upset me because I mean Mortal combat Number one and terrible Terrible. The net to me is a classic. I can't hate on the net. Love the net Yes. and I just feel like the Babysitters Cub was better than a lot of those movies. Ninth at the box office. I mean, this is and it's coming again. It's like this is, you know, walk of the clous. I don't think that that movie is going to have as many legs as this Mandy Moore, rightight? That's a Mandy Moore one. you know, you know like thirteen, sure, but that's like on a couple of weeks out. But but I'm like, yeah, mortal combat and dangerous Minds and walk in the clouds. These are movies. I would say those three movies Do not I don't even know walk in the clouds Like Walk in clouds. I'm pretty sure is like a Mandy Moore movie. just' like a very like a mela drama kind of. Yeah, it oh, that's a walk to remember. A walk in the cloud.. Oh my Godd, wait, I know a walk to remember. Okay, that is that is an iconic movie. That is pretty good. wal interestingly, I'll say that. Okay, a walk in the clouds is Kana Reeves about when a soldier, Paul Sutton is on a way home from World War two, he realizes that he barely knows his young wife, Deborah Messing And he's Basically like he falls in love with a beautiful woman, but it also looks like Kanu is fifteen in this. and he's wearing a very big hat I do remember this when I I reshelved this when I worked at Blockbuster a lot. I never watched a walk in the clouds. Currently it has a let's see I It has a six point seven it has a It currently has a forty six percent on rotten tomato. So but a fororeign. Not great, not great, not great at all. Noope, not probablybably wouldn't recommend that one, I guess Now, Rob, you are on all the things. You are on Instagram at Heart Rob Anderson. You are also on Twitter at Smart Rob, TikTok Robert and YouTube Rob Anderson. what else do you want people to know about where they can find you? Be I think if you're not following you on one of these many platforms, you should Yes Well, it's there' it's heart throb. It's like a playon Heart Thobb in my name in it. so got it. I've said it wrong. I'm like rethinking all of my handle choices. I'm like, wait, have people have been catching on. now it's me just reading like a monkey looking at a teleproom. I'm like trying to makeake sure I don't mess it up. Smart Rob, heartthrob Anderson Heart Robert Yeah. and yeah. exxactly doesn't Yeah like this all in this show bios, donon't worry about me. But you can find me. and if you' more information, just go to your website and you can find out when you'll be on tour again. And your special once again is dropping on your YouTube on june third. I cannot wait to watch it By the way, I've seen clips of your performances. You are playing these giant venues. It's like it is a show. I gott to come see you next time because every time I've seen a clip, I'm just like, this is a show that I would like to be at and this looks so fun You are so welcome to come to any of my shows. I mean, this has been a dream having listened to your pods for years. This is a dream coming here and talking about Babysitters Club of all things. So this has been such a treat seriously. I am thrilled and are you afraid of the nineties on Rob's YouTube on june third. Thank you, Rob for being here. 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