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You know, what I said to reporters afterwards, I think the adjective I used was spirited and to use another Washington euphemism , frank and candid conversation occurred and the president was very upset in particular at four Republican senators that had voted to use the War Powers Act to restrict his authority in Iran to launch military actions against Iran . And he was extremely displeased with that vote and it then proceeded as a matter of policy, I don't repeat what my colleagues have said. But at this point, it has been universally reported that that the President and Bill C assidy, the Senator from Louisiana, got into a screaming match and it was as tense as anything I've ever seen . Cassidy himself has confirmed that to the press afterwards . Now obvious,ly President Trump endorsed against Bill Cassidy in his primary in Louisiana and defeated Bill. So he is not. There's a runoff in Louisiana and Bill did not make the top two. He was third in the race. And so and Cassidy in turn had previously voted to convict President Trump during the Trump impeachment. And so the president, understandably , was not happy about the vote to convict him in impeachment and was not happy with Bill's vote to limit his ability to defend this nation and launch military attacks against Iran. You know, that's interesting the part there. And obviously you guys have these lunches and I want to be respectful of you and others that are that are, you know, obviously in that meeting but I've got, some questions just based on what's been in the media and we're going to do that in a second. But first, I want to tell you about Patriot Mobile and this company that you really need to know about that's making a difference every single day. If you think wireless companies are all the same, you might need to take a look at Patriot Mobile. Patriot Mobile isn't just different because of its mission. 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So for example , here's what the New York Post has reported. President Trump and Senator Bill Cassidy got into a shouting match during a lunch meeting Wednesday over the U. S. war with Iran . GOP senators descri Trumpb ased being quote,, mad as a murder hornet raising his voice at the Louisiana Republican. Cassidy, and this is Cassidy's public comments, so I'm happy to repeat those. Cassidy, who later quipped that the talks went swimmingly , called the president my brother several times during the heated exchange , Senate GOP sources said, The president spat back that Cassidy wasn't his brother and told him to sit down . And here's what Cassidy told reporters , quote, Trump did not particularly care for my comments, raised his voice, I lost my temper . It's the Irish in me, but again, I matched his tone and volume and so it went back and forth. And then he went on to say , so I sat down and tried to de escalate. It was very intense, but I'll tell you what , it had an interesting effect, as intense as it was because we had another vote after that exchange on the war powers. And Cassidy switched his vote . And there was also an exchange Rand Paul had voted. He was one of the four, and listen, the president Rand and have a friendship. He and Rand disagree on a lot of issues, but the president likes Rand and so it was a very different exchange with Rand than it was with Cassidy . And Rand did something which I've never seen him do before , which is he voted present rather than voting for the War Powers resolution. And so those two votes changed. And Rand put out a statement explaining that he was doing that . But I respected that that Ran did. In particular, look, the president's case, and I thought it was quite reasonable is he said, We're in the middle of negotiating with Iran. And while we're negotiating with Iran, it comes over the TV that the Senate has blocked me being able to to continue with conducting the war. And he said, you completely undercut my ability to negotiate with Iran. And I think the president that was a very understandable point and a fair point . And it ended up moving those two votes. When you're an average person listening right now, there's a lot of people listening that are in states where these senators who have lost and others have said no did this . How frustrated should they be and is that justifiable or is it just understanding the politics of this moment . Look, the politics of this moment are unique. And Donald Trump a black swan event. There is nobody else in public life. There is no other Donald Trump. And so he will say things . He is regularly. There are different senators that he disagrees with. And when he disagrees with you, he can do it with both barrels. And you know, I've been on the receiving end of that, but that was that was a decade ago and when we were running against each other. And to be fair, I've criticized him. He's criticized me. We're now I'm now his strongest ally in the Senate, and we're very good friends now he is willing to take the bark off someone and that was certainly true in the Senate lunch this week. All right, one of the reasons why I love doing this show is we get to take you behind the scenes, especially when there's big deals like this Republican lunch with Donald Trump, and Senator Cruz taking us behind the scenes about that. I know one of the big questions everyone listening right now is going to ask, Senator is, all right, was a save act mention and what was said ? Well, sure, the president urged the Senate to pass the Save America Act. And I strongly agree with him on that. I'm an original sponsor of the Save America Act. I've been making the case to my colleagues for months that we should do everything humanly possible to pass the Save America Act. In particular, we should force the Democrats to do a talking filibuster to stand up and talk and talk and talk . Just like Jimmy Stewart did in Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, just like I did when I filibustered for twenty one hours against Obamacare. And we should keep the Senate in session and make them work and make them fight. The president made that case vigorously. The difficulty is there are several Republicans in the Senate who oppose him on that. And so it ended up not being a huge part of what was discussed. It was the President talked about it for a few minutes and pressed his case and I very much agree with him on that. But I would say ninety percent of the discussion was about Iran and in particular how mad he was at the war powers vote. That he felt that that vote had really undercut him and he was and and then it it blew up as we just described where he and Cassidy really went at each other. Senator, I want to go back to the filibuster. You mentioned. This has been talked about so much on TV. You have a lot of allies there that are advocating for what you just talked about and the idea of having this talking filibuster. You famously have done this before . But in this scenario, would it look just like one man talking or with so many different allies that you have that have talked about this publicly. Would it be multiple people asking questions? Is that part of the reason why it's an intriguing idea? Well, look, part of what you would do is the Senate can keep itself in one legislative day for days, for weeks , for months, potentially. And there is a rule in the Senate that is the two speech rule, which is which is that a senator can't speak more than twice in a single legislative day. And so the approach would be to exhaust the Democrats, to make them talk, to make them stand up there and keep talking and talking. They can, people can ask questions, and if the senator speaking wants to yield for a question they can The challenge of doing that is it would require the Republicans keeping at least fifty of us nearby to be able to produce a quorum because one of the ways the Democrats would fight us is they would suggest the absence of a quorum . And as I said, we've got several Republican senators who are resisting that. Yeah, and that's that's part of the reporting that's been interesting as you descri be it. Look, the president knows how to count as well. He also did, and there was a moment where he came out after the meeting, and he did say this to the American people, and I want to play it for you. Great meeting and we're very proud of the party Like everybody really in the room. I don't like a few people, but that's okay. I think you know who they are . But I'll give you that information , but for the most part, we have a really well unified party. And I said it very strongly. We have the hottest country anywhere in the world. We're the most powerful, we're the smartest, we're the most respected. Two years ago we were a laughing stock all over the world. We had a terrible group of people representatives . Every leader I just left G seven . Every leader and we had a lot of people in addition to G seven as you know , everyone said what we've done in a year and a half is a miracle. We have the hottest country in the world and we want to keep it that way. We have more factories being built right now than we have at any point at any time in the history of our country, and all of those factories are opening up soon , it's all jobs. And our job numbers are incredible anyway . I see that oil just broke the seventy dollars number . Who would have thought that was going to happen? And that's during a war. And Iran is being very nice . They're agreeing to everything that I want and they have to. Otherwise, we just go back and do what we have to do. Thank you very much. By the way, the interesting part there in that is the way he described Iran doing what he wants right now and they're being quote very nice. That's some breaking news. Well, that's been very much what the president has been saying. And you know, I will say listening to the president that news conference, it reminds me this week I was joking with Senator Bernie Marina. We were like, you know, boy the president, got pretty hot under the collar and I made a wisecrack. I said, you know, I think the president must be Latino because that was some Latin temper there . And Bernie came back and he said, you know, you know, I think you're right. And just like a Latino, he gets mad and then he's just fine like moments afterwards. And you know , by the by the press conference, I mean, he was pissed in that room and then the press conference he was rightly focusing on the unity we have, although I wouldn't say there was a ton of unity in that particular lunch , but the unity we have more broadly and everything were getting accomplished. And so I think that was valuable . You know, it was also interesting on the Iran deal. He was mad about the war powers vote , but he did not listen, listen, I've been quite public and vocal that I'm concerned that the president is getting very bad advice on this deal . And I think it is history is clear that giving billions of dollars to theocratic lunatics who want to murder us is a very bad idea . And the terms of the memorandum of understanding that JD Vance negotiated say the United States with regional partners will provide three hundred billion dollars to the Ayatollah and the Mullahs in Iran. And that I think is a really bad idea. I don't think it is in U. S. national security interest . What was interesting about the launch is President Trump is well aware of my concerns and several other Republican senators have expressed concerns along those same lines . And he wasn't arguing with those. I think he's hearing those concerns. I'm glad he's hearing those concerns because I think those who are giving him the advice of sending billions of dollars to Iran, I think are giving him poor advice and that was not a major topic of the discussion at the lunch. All right, I want to take a moment. I want to talk to you about a really awesome organization. And if you are pro life and you're proud to stand up for the rights of unborn children. The Supreme Court ruled that abortion drugs can keep being sent through the mail No doctor visit, no in person exam . No one checking whether a woman is being pressured , whether she's too far along, whether she's safe. These are powerful drugs. 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Give before june thirteenth and your gift will be doubled. Again , that's a l ot org forward slash verdict Let's start with a big victory with the Supreme Court striking down a sweeping Hawaii gun law six to three. This was big news and if you are a second amendment advocate like you and I are glad, you're about this . Well, this week it was a major Second Amendment victory at the Supreme Court. The case is Wolford vs. Lopez. And Hawaii had passed a really broad gun gun control law . And it was known as Act fifty two passed in twenty twenty three . And it made it a crime for a licensed concealed carry holder to carry a firearm onto private property that is open to the public unless the owner gave express permission . And the consequence of that would mean if you had a permit to concealed carry, you could n't walk into, say, a grocery store. You couldn't walk into a department store unless the owner explicitly said, I give you permission to carry a firearm here. As a practical matter, that was a really broad ban on a right that is protected by the Constitution. And so the Supreme Court struck it down. The vote was six to three. Justice Sam Alito wrote the majority . And that what the court said that well, there were several opinions. So Justice Alito wrote the main opinion. He was joined by Chief Justice Roberts, Justice Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett, and held that the Hawaii law burdened the right to bear arms. The plaintiffs are the Second Amendment says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed . And the majority said you can't take away that right that broadly and struck it down . This is again, I love when we get these rulings and it reminds people just why presidential elections are so important because these are the types of rulings that happen even after people leave the White House and this is why it's important that we have a conservative majority on the court . I go back, I got to remind people, you got a book coming out with Quarance Thomas. This is a perfect example of why having people like Querence Thomas on the on the Supreme Court is so important and remind people the name of the book so they can go get it. There's a side up right now where they can pre order as well . Going further , the incomparable Clarence Thomas is the name of the book . It's coming out in August. It's a biography. It talks about his life story. It talks about his jurisprudence . And actually a big part of his jurisprudence was highly relevant in this decision because what Hawaii argued is it went back on historical evidence and argued that Hawaii had colonial laws that gave it the power to do this. And the Supreme Court said no , those dealt with poaching or hunting or protecting rural land, and sure, you can't go on someone else's land and say hunt hunt wildlife on their land. That's very different from saying land that is open to the public , like a gas station or grocery store that you can just turn ordinary citizens exercising their constitutional rights automatically into criminals. And Hawaii in particular pointed to an eighteen sixty five Louisiana Black Code statute as saying, well, this gives us a basis for passing this law. And Justice Alito's majority pointed out that that was a law that was designed to disarm freed black Americans who this was right after the Civil War . And you look at these black codes, they were driven by clansmen, and by the way, the clansmen were all Democrats who did not want the new ly freed slaves to be able to defend themselves. Why? Because they wanted the Klan to be able to terrorize them , murder them, threaten them with violence. And if they had a firearm to defend themselves , that would be harder to do. And Justice Thomas has written extensively about that, doing the research during Reconstruction , that the long racist history of wanting to disarm African Americans to make them vulnerable to violence. And that played an important part in this Supreme Court decision this week . Senator, there's there's one red flag here I want to raise. And not only did the Supreme Court shut down what Hawaii was doing, but to be clear, Hawaii was attempting to make the Second Amendment disappear from everyday life . That is something that's concerning because this is now the Democratic Party. This is what they want to do. They want to take away your right to protect and defend yourself. They want to take away your right not only at home but anywhere at your business or anywhere else and they don't care what about our Second Amendment right at all. That to them is meaningless and you witness that here and that goes back to the dissent. When you look at this decision, what were the other three saying because if you're designing to this, I would assume you'd have to make it based on the fact that well, I don't even believe the Second Amendment is an issue that Supreme Court should even take into consideration . Well, there were three dissenters , Justice Kagan, Justice Jackson and Justice Sotomayor. And all three of them would have upheld the Hawaii law . And they argued that the case was really about property law. And they argued in particular that no one has a constitutional right to enter private property without consent . And so it didn't matter whether you were armed or not. It was simply property law. But you know there have long been number one laws governing public accommodation. So for example, you can't have a hotel that only rents rooms to white people and not African Americans. That's that's illegal under our civil rights laws that once you open it up at a public accommodation, you have to offer it freely to the people who come in . And in this instance , shutting down those look, it's one thing. Anyone can exclude someone from their property. No one has a right to enter your home or my home . But when you open up your property, when you have a store or a gas station or whatever and you're inviting people into your property, the effect of that turn law abiding citizens into criminals. And that's because listen, the left is not hiding their objective , they want to erase the Second Amendment from the Constitution. They want to ban the private ownership of firearms. And Hawaii was taking a significant step in that direction by making it extremely difficult for people to carry a firearm and be able to defend themselves. And you know, Ben, you've got personal experience. Tell folks your experience and how carrying a gun literally saved your life . Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm such an advocate for this. It's the reason why I end up buying a gun store and having a gun range and having the classes to get your permits to carry. Now it's constitutional carry in Tennessee and so many other states, but being on a protective defend yourself, if I didn't have a gun the night that I was a target of a gang initiation . You would have come to my funeral. That's not a joke. There was two gang members. It's called getting blood in the gang and one of the senior members gets another guy in the gang and they have to kill somebody. And they do that so they have something on them so that the gang members will never flip or nark or wear a wire because they can go to the police and say, hey, there's a shooting that happened at this time at this place and it's a it's a it's a brilliant business structure if you think about it I al.most when they explained it to me, the police did, I was like, okay, wow, that's that's shocking. But I was able to use my firearm, pull it, and shoot back and save my life in my best friend's life who happened to be with me, thank goodness, he wasn't shot eith er. But it was a it was a shootout and I tell you like I look at this Hawaii and it's personal for me and any other state where they try to take away your right to protect and defend yourself because you have that right. That's what makes this country so great. And when you see these Supreme Court justices who just say, I don't care what America was found. I don't care about the Second Amendment. And the same way in Hawaii, they basically said, We don't care what the laws were or are or what is in this country that makes it America, we're just going to change what we want to. And having three Spreme Court justices who make the decision the way that you just described it, it goes back to this is why presidential elections matter because when you lose, these are the types of people that get on the Supreme Court and they can undo this country . Yeah, I mean, look, Gavin Newsom, who by any measure is one of the leading frontrunners for the Democrat nomination for president. He tweeted out in response to this, quote, gun laws keep people safe. This ruling by Trump's Supreme Court will only endanger people. If Justice Alito really thinks people need guns to go to the grocery store for self defense . This country is truly broken. By the way, where were you when you were when these gang members tried to kill you So I was in Memphis Tennessee. It was literally a block and a half from the entrance to the large Mid South Fair. So we when it happened, they put a gun to my head at one point and there were a family with a stroller walking past us and he had to move the gun from the side of my head down to the inside and he told me to shake his blanking hand. I had to shake hands with the guy that had just beat me up and it had a gun in my head. That's how close we were to the fair . We actually didn't even have to dial nine hundred and eleven. We just ran down the street to a police officer that was directing traffic. That's how close they were to us. And the police officer said we heard the gunshots . And so, you know, you look at those types of people, that's what you're up against. And that's why you got to be able to protect. And you got to be able to defend yourself. And if their Democrats have their way , you won't, you won't be able to carry a firearm and defend yourself and that's that's what they believe . 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The Supreme Court also handed President Trump two major immigration victories , and this was an exciting moment when it comes to immigration cases and victories that we needed . Well, that's right . six three, the Supreme Court, there were two big wins. One case was Mullen vs. Do the other case was Mullen vs. Alotro lado, which is Spanish for on the other side . And in both instances, it was six, three, both instances, Justice Alito wrote the opinion. So all three of these opinions were written by Justice Alito. He had an incredibly strong week defending our rights . One of the cases, the Mullen vs. Al teralado, what it concluded is that an illegal immigrant on the other side of the border in Mexico entered into the United States for purposes of immigration law. 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