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And if you're listening on the radio, it's so nice to have you with us around the country wherever you are. Senator, we've got a lot to talk about in the show. And obviously we're going to start with that big issue. Iran and the nuclear deal slash agreement slash memo of understanding slash whatever everybody wanted to be at this point. Yeah, our last podcast, we talked about the rumors that were swirling about what might be in the Iran deal. The administration has now released the memorandum of understanding that has been signed. And so we know the text of it. And as we said in the last podcast , it was highly concerning . And it turns out every bit of those rumors were accurate and what was being circulated was, in fact, what was in it . I believe the president getting very poor advice on this . And history teaches a very simple proposition , which is that giving billions of dollars to theocratic lunatics who want to murder us is a very, very bad idea . This deal envisions funneling three hundred billion dollars to the Ayatollah and the Islamic regime in Iran. I think that would be a very serious mistake . I think if the Ayatollah gets three hundred billion dollars , that money will be used to fund terrorism and to murder Americans. And so it is very much my hope that the administration goes down a different path, that they choose not to send money to the Ayatollah. In my view, we shouldn't send a penny to the Ayatollah and sending three hundred billion dollars would be I think enormously dangerous. But before we get to all that, I do want to take a moment and talk to you about how you can get involved and help with an amazing organization, Americans United for life. And if you are pro life and you're proud to stand up for the rights of unborn children , now they are a nonprofit law firm, an advocacy group. They were founded in nineteen seventy one. 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All right, I want to make sure Senator that we're extremely clear on this show. You're going to say that there's a chance we could send three hundred billion dollars that they could get their hands on in Iran. The pushback I've already seen, I've had a debate this on TV is we're not writing that check . So it's not accurate. Can you explain how they're getting their hands on that amount of money potentially here in this deal so that people understand because the argument is well, Obama sent pallets to cash. We're not sending any cash from American taxpayers. So therefore, that that argument's going void. Explain this out so people understand why this is a concerning moment. Yeah, look, the folks trying to defend the deal. That is the talking point they're using as they're saying that that cash would not be US taxpayer money. Let me just read to you. I'm going to read verbatim from the from the agreement. Paragraph six begins as follows The United States of America undertakes with regional partners to develop a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least three hundred billion dollars for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran . The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of a final deal within sixty days . All requested licenses, waivers and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America. That is a kit commitment to ens ure that Iran receives three hundred billion dollars. You know what? I don't care where it comes from. I don't want a lunatic religious fanatic who chants death to America to receive three hundred billion dollars, whether it comes from us or it comes from some other regional partners. I don't care where it comes from . Giving people who want to kill you billions and billions of dollars from any source historically has proven an enormous mistake. And I will say look, to put it in context the biggest foreign policy mistake that that Biden and Kamala Harris did as they flowed over one hundred billion dollars to Iran . Iran took that money and they used it to fund terrorism across the globe , to attack and kill Americans, and in a very real sense, Biden and Kamala Harris paid for the october seventh terror attacks through the money they flowed into Iran. The number this agreement is talking about is three times as large as what Biden and Harris flowed into Iran That makes no sense whatsoever. And look , if you look, the single most consequential decision President Trump has made was the decision to initiate military attacks on Iran . And we have completely devastated their military. We've taken out their air defenses, their ballistic missiles, their drones, their manufacturing capability for ballistic missiles and drones. We've destroyed their air force. We've sunk their navy . It doesn't make any sense at all for us to now go and build everything back. What was the point of blowing it up if we're going to build it back? And the idea that we would have effectively a marshal plan for Iran is not remotely in America's interest . You know, the marshal plan we came in and rebuilt Europe after World War two , look , if the administration wants to leave, we should leave, but sending and the agreement is silent by the way on whether that money is from taxpayer money or not. It doesn't say one way or the other. It just says the United States will work with regional partners to make sure they get three hundred billion . But wherever it comes from giving the Ayatollah that money , I believe it is a hundred percent certainty if they get three hundred billion dollars, they will spend that trying to kill Americans. Yeah, as one person said to me in the foreign policy world, they said, if you would have gone to Iran's leadership and said, have a scuffle with America, but they'll give you three hundred million after wards excuse me, three hundred billion afterwards. They will take that deal every single year because cash flow is everything to them in that part of the world and what they use it for as you mentioned terrorism. Hamas has blah, the list goes on , this is an insane amount of cash that they're getting their hands on . And understand the way this MLU is structured , there is an immediate unfreezing of Iranian assets. So what appears to be contempl ated is somewhere between ten billion and thirty billion cash immediately flows to them. Now, mind you, that's before they've made any commitment at all on nuclear weapons. All they've committed to do is talk about nuclear weapons. That's the only commitment. There's no promise on enrichment. There's there's nothing or they say they're not going to develop nuclear weapons. But there's there's no meat to that other than we will sit down and discuss that . And the agreement sends somewhere between ten and thirty billion dollars to them immediately up front . I think that is a really foolish idea. All right, Senator, let's talk about the Strait of Hormuz. This is the part for me that I actually think was the most frustrating . This is international. It is not supposed to be governed or owned by certainly a terrorist organization like the RGC in Iran . But this deal now sets up that Iran and quote, Oman will be in charge of the strait . There's nothing in this deal from what and I've read it unless I just completely misunderstood it that says that eventually they can't start taking tolls on this and using it and weaponizing the strait the same way they did when they at the beginning of this conflict. That is something else in this deal that was shocking to me. Break that down for everyone. Yeah, the memorandum of understanding contemplates that Iran would have ongoing control of the Strait of Hormuz and it says that Iran won't charge tolls or fees for the first sixty days . But it clearly contemplates that Iran will be able to charge tolls to go through the Strait of Hormuz in the future , that Iran has never been able to do that before. That is a major geostrategic shift that would be a major revenue source Iran and for the Ayatollah listen, I don't think the Ayatollah should be able to collect one penny for the free navigation of the seas. Iran does not have this is not Iran's territorial waters. This is free and open seas and it is simply they're engaging in terrorism . You know, it's not even a toll or a fee. It's more like pirates charging a bounty . And look if there are voices in the administration who number one opposed the military conflict with Iran from day one , but number two , once it started immediately wanted to get out. If they wanted to get out, they're better off just leaving than just pouring cash into the Ayatollah. And I will say look and by the way, let's be clear and Iran, I want people to understand. I was talking to a shipping maritime economist earlier today . He said the amount of money that they could get from tolls fund terrorism and almost he said in the way he described it because there's no cost for them to do this, give them revenue at an oil like stature because he said, look with oil you have to actually explore, you have to drill, you have to get out of the ground, you have to put on boats, you got to ship it, you got to pay for all that. He said, A toll cost you nothing . This is pure profit every time a boat pulls up and says, okay, you want to save passage or we're going to terrorize you, give us money. That's no different than a checkpoint down in Mexico by a cartel . And let me say three hundred billion dollars flows into Iran . That's what's contemplated under this agreement . Iran has the power to collect tolls in perpetuity , that would be billions more that would flow into Iran . As long as the regime remains the Ayatollah and the Mullahs , they have not changed. They still chant death to America . They still want to kill us . And they will use that money. So for forty seven years the Islamic regime in Iran has been waging war with America. They've been the number one funder of terrorism world wide. ninety percent of the funds to Hamas, ninety percent of the funds to the Houthis, ninety percent of the funds to Hezbollah come from Iran . That money, if we send that money, and by the way, the money is anticipated being deposited in the Bank of Iran, which is controlled by the IRGC. The IRGC is a terrorist group. It is designated as a terrorist group . And now this agreement contemplates billions of dollars flowing into the IRGC's coffers. And I'll say something else also Can I just say this to the few understand IRGC? They're basically running the country right now. Look if the Islamic regime remains in power , that regime I believe , will continue to threaten President Trump and his family forever . Yeah . That is they've twice hired hitmen to try to murder the president . I believe the Ayatollah with three hundred billion dollars I think the result of that would be more Americans killed in terrorism. And I also this regime they lie . So yes, they've promised not to develop nuclear weapons, if they get three hundred billion dollars, they will use that money to develop nuclear weapons. And to be clear, the reason the reason I don't want them to have nuclear weapons is I think the odds are unacceptably high they would use those nuclear weapons. The Ayatollah The risk is that hundreds of thousands of Americans would be killed in a flash of an eye by detonating a nuclear weapon in New York City or Los Angeles . And I believe if the Ayatollah were able to do so, he would . That's the danger. And President Trump , look, a lot of the reporters have been asking, well, gosh, isn't President Trump just like Obama? And not remotely. Look, President Trump made a heroic decision as commander in chief to take out the military to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons. That made America safer. That was the right decision. Obama just flooded cash into Iran . And the Obama nuclear deal inevitably would have led to Iran getting nuclear weapons. But I think now President Trump is receiving bad advice and I'm hopeful that he will choose to go down a different course and not get Not give billions of dollars, either American money or anybody else's money. I don't want people who want to kill us to have the means to be able to do so. Yeah. One of the other things in this memorandum of understanding deals with Israel and Lebanon. There are a lot of people there really concerned that this would neuter our ally who is actually going after terrorists organizations, Tamas and Hezbollah terrorist fighters. I want to get your reaction to that part of this deal as well. Yeah, look, the deal . You want to know Iran's priorities? The very first thing they negotiate in this deal is stop attacking Hezbollah. The terrorists that are murdering civilians. Understand Hezbollah Hezbollah is not a government organization. It's not a legitimate organization. It is purely a terrorist organization. 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Lingo Kids, everything kids love . Professional wrestling fans, the action continues every week. TNA Thursday night impact every week on AMC for showtimes and more information, visit TNAWrestling dot com . All right, so Sinner, let's move into this is something you've been really working on. This is the most like jock bro I've ever seen you since I've known you and it's really been fun for me because usually you're geeking out over like supreme court stuff. I feel like our friendship has moved to another level because now we've got to talk sports and NIL so much and the college sports bill, it is now reality . Let's walk us through how this was done and what it means for sports fans and saving many sports that were getting canceled around the country that were non money making sports. So this week was a very, very big week for college sports because the Senate Commerce Committee, which I chair passed my legislation to protect college sports and it passed with a big b ipartisan vote. The vote was nineteen to nine. So we got a bunch of Republicans, a bunch of Democrats. We got more than two thirds of the committee voted for it. That's really important. It has momentum now going to the Senate floor. I think it's going to pass on the Senate with a big bipartisan vote and it's going to go to the House and President Trump is eager to sign it. Now, what's going on in college sports? Listen, college sports is in crisis right now Every week you see another story about a program being canceled, women's sports being canceled, track and field being canceled, Olympic sports being canceled, non revenue sports, tennis being canceled. Yeah . And what is happening is you've got total chaos with the transfer portal. You've got athletes transferring two, three, four, five times . You have essentially no rules on eligibility . They're all being decided by lawsuits. It got so ludicrous. You had the Brendan Soresby case where even though he was gambling on his own games , you had a hometown judge say, No, he can still play anyway. Now, thankfully, Texas tech backed away from that decision. I'm glad tech made that decision to back away. That was an indefensible decision, but it illustrated the chaos we have. You have people that are twenty six, twenty seven years old still playing college sports and twenty eight year olds playing against eighteen year olds, which is not fair, not right . And athletic programs, they're almost all losing millions of dollars. Many of them are losing tens of millions of dollars because the cost keeps spiraling out of control . And Ben , if Congress doesn't act I think five years from now , there will be thirty to fifty competitive college football programs, basically a mini NFL. Yeah, that's a it'll be a franchise. If you're an SCU, you own a franchise. Yeah. And I think all of the other programs go under . And what that means, by the way, that's not just college football going under. The way athletics works in colleges is football pays for everything else. And so if football goes under, it means those schools they, lose women's sports , they lose, they lose their entire athletic program. It means our Olympic athletes are just devastated and the college programs where they develop their skills right now go away And I think that would be a terrible outcome and it would also be a terrible outcome. Do you know right now there are more than five hundred thousand college athletes competing at , at any given time ? Yep. If we allow this chaos to continue to play out hundreds of thousands of those slots will disappear, those scholarships will disappear. And sports has been an avenue by the way, you're men and women to go to school. Let's be clear. The five hundred thousand you just mentioned, and this is the part I want people to understand. The majority of college athletes, like ninety , I think some I saw a study you may know the number. I want to say it was ninety eight or ninety nine percent of college athletes do not play football at all or basketball . So if you think about college sports , it is all the other sports. The majority of them are not revenue making sports. Football barely is on most camages. Sometimes and depending on what school you're at, if you're at a basketball school, then that will be your revenue sport. Outside that, almost all the others lose money. Yep. If you don't fix this, everything goes away and then many of those football programs at one percent of the student body or basketball which is, I mean most basketball teams they have I think scholarships I wonder if it's nine in D one maybe it's eleven scholarships. I can't remember they're, always moving around . But for men, like, that's not many people, folks. If you don't fix this, you have a university that now has doesn't even have an identity in sports . Yeah, look, look, my philosophy in addressing this was number one, I didn't worry too much about the powerhouse programs, the big programs. Listen, in Texas, University of Texas and Texas A and M, I love them both. I go to games every year. I cheer them on. They're incredible institutions. To be honest, you TNAM they are going to survive and thrive regardless of what happens . They would survive the mini NFL and they'd continue to win national championships . But I worried about all of the other programs. To be honest, if we don't act, I'm not convinced any other program in Texas survives. And if you can imagine a Texas without SMU, without TCU, without Baylor, without Texasch, Te without Rice, without University of Houston , that would be a tragic outcome . And so my focus was on maintaining the entire ecosystem. But second , my focus was not on the superstar athletes. If you're Michael Jordan, if you're Arch Manning, you know what? You're going to get millions of dollars. You're going to be on the Weedies box. You're going to do great. Yeah. ninety nine percent of college athletes will never play in the NFL, will never play in the NBA. But yet athletics is their ticket to college. Look it was for you playing tennis how you went OMS. And I'll be honest with you, I'm not sure I would have gone to college if it wasn't for having the scholarship which came through tennis to pay for college. My family did not have a lot of means and my dad was the first to admit and it was like , if you want to go to college , if you want to go to good school, you're going to have to get there and earn it. Sports was my way in. It wasn't going to be the academic road and that's another avenue you can go. But sports was and for many of my friends , it was a savior to a better life afterwards, a better member of society. By the way, we pay a lot more taxes when you're successful. So it's a great reinvestment in the country from that standpoint as well. You want your kids to go to college, but for so many, I had roommates they would have never gotten into college if it wasn't and got in their family. Many I had two different roommates. They were the first kid in their families to ever go to college. It completely changed the trajectory of their family tree and it was because of athletics. Well, and some people have said, well, why is Congress getting involved in college sports? And the reason is it's federal laws that Congress has passed that created this chaos . It's why all of the rules got thrown out because they're being sued under existing federal law and every rule keeps getting thrown out. And so Congress created the problem, which means only Congress can fix it because only Congress can alter that federal law . And if we don't act , we can see the crisis unfold around us. And for millions of young men and women , many college athletes are coming from econom ically disadvantaged circumstances. Many of them are African American or Hispanic . Over years and decades, we're talking about millions of young men and women who this may be their only path to go to A going to college and getting an education . But B learning the disciplines that come from being in organized sports of teamwork and hard work and discipline and sportsmanship . And look, I didn't have the skills to play college sports, I would have loved to, but I played high school sports, and it was, you know, being on, I played basketball and football and soccer and being on a team in high school , those are really important skills. And it's amazing. I actually asked this at our Senate Republican lunch. I said, All right, how many people around this table played college sports? And I would say about twenty percent of the Republicans in the Senate raised their hand and they were college athletes. I mean, that's true. And that's true. You find that with CEO's, you find that the discipline and nobody in the Senate played professional sports , but the discipline of and the skills you learn set you up for success in life. Let me ask you one final quest ion on this. Who was behind this that surprised you the most? Nick Saban was one that I was excited to see that African American University of Memphis, my hometown football coach, he got behind this and had some great testimony there in front of you guys . I was proud of that as well. But who shocked you that was behind this? So the support we've seen has been overwhelming. twenty four conferences have endorsed this bill. They represent those conferences, rep resent two hundred different colleges and universities are enthusiastically supporting the bill. The NFL endorsed the bill. The NBA endorsed the bill, Major League Baseball endorsed the bill. The NFA NFL players association endorsed the bill. The NBA players association endorsed the bill. The college football association endorsed the bill. We've had Nick Saban has endorsed it. John Calapari led over a hundred college coaches who have endorsed the bill . The US Olympic Committee endorsed the bill. So we've seen just enormous support . And I will say the primary opposition came from the leadership of the Big Ten and the SEC. And look, the SEC is really important in Texas, obviously, UTA and M. I think they're great . If Congress doesn't act , I believe the SEC and Big ten want to create a super league where they're the only football that exists and everyone else out of a billion dollar franchise organizations. That's what they would have. And that is a terrible outcome. We explicitly prohibit a super league in the bill because I want to keep all the other programs alive . That's where the resistance has come from. I think we're going to end up having a big, big bipartisan vote on the Senate floor. My objective is to do this, get it done, get it passed. The president's eager to sign it and do all of that before school starts this fall . I want you to pause what you're doing for just one minute and I want you to hear about Alejandra . She lives in a remote community with very few resources and little to no health care . So when Alejandra gets sick, her parents have no real options, no doctors in their community , and no money for real medical care . By the third day, her body was shutting down. She woke up and just long enough to tell her mom , I can't take the pain anymore. I can't keep going. Her parents drove hours to find a doctor who tried everything , but she needed a private hospital . And that was impossible for her family to afford . And that is when Compassion International stepped in. Now, through compassion, Alejandra was treated and against all odds, she survived. She lived because someone just like you took action . Right now, unfortunately, there are children just like Alejand ra, who won't survive unless someone like you steps in. Compassion International partners with local churches providing children with the support that they need . Critical medical care , plus food, education and the hope of the gospel . All in Jesus' name . So help a child just like Alejandra today . You can visit compassion. com that's compassion . com . Senator we've been talking about sports. You had a really amazing experience this last week. You got to go to the USC fight at the White House . That fight was incredible. It's also turned into a national security issue that we found out about after that fight, which is really interesting and some of the people there getting arrested they were illegal immigrants. Shocker there . So look, I will say Sunday the UFC fight at the White House was absolutely surreal. It was an amazing day. I was there for the fight. The president invited me. I appreciated the president inviting me. It was number one, I was great fights and UFC fight. I've been to one previous ly, which I went with President Trump and in Miami, and that was it's amazing. It's incredibly violent. But the athletes are really skilled. The fighters are like unbelievably skilled. And there were a whole bunch of fights throughout the night. I got to admit the whole thing was surreal as you're looking around going, wait, we're on the southlone of the White House. The White House was there right there. We're like looking over and it was the fighters are coming out of the White House. That was a part on TV that I think everybody was like, wait, their dressing room is like the White House it was, which is pretty awesome. Yeah, no it was really, really cool . It was also interesting like you know, the people watching there was very interesting. Like Mark Zuckerberg was sitting not far from me. It was interesting. He knows many of the fighters, like they would come in and they bear hug because he's into M MA, but that was kind of interesting. And I was also sitting near Jim Jordan and near Dave McCormick and they knew a number of the fighters because you know, look, Jim is a hall of fame college wrestler and McCormick was captain of the wrestling team at West Point. So both of them know the wrestling world. That was interesting. I don't know the fighters, but it was interesting to see that those three guys did . The whole thing was an amazing night . by And the way
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