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California reached critical mass at that point. People said to themselves This state is dysfunctional. It can't conduct honest, transparent elections with readily tabulated votes , more likely you should go to the polls and you should show your California driver's license again . And we don't do that . You people conduct elections and you have no idea who's voting ? You give licenses to people here illegally , and that license is used to get a registered vote, but you don't even check if they're at the address They didn't release the name of the driver . Okay well what Victor's referring to, folks and that's Victor Davis Hanson. And this is Victor Davis Hansen in his own words, and we're going to be talking about Gordon Wood, the great historian who died the other day, died because he was hit by a car and kill ed . This show is being recorded on Saturday, june thirteenth. It will be up on the Daily Signal and other platforms on Tuesday, june sixteenth . Victor is the Martin and Eeele Anderson senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne Marsha Busky Distinguished Fellow in history at Hillsdale College. He's a man with the website The Blade of Perseus, Victorhans on com dot is the address. He is a senior contributor to the Daily Signal. He has this podcast, and then he also has a four times a week, a shorter show , but very popular show, Victor Davis Hansen in a few words . Tomorrow is flag day in real time as we're talking Victor, tomorrow's flag day . I love flag day. Maybe we can talk about that at the end . Jay Clayton has been named the director of National Intelligence by Donald Trump, Elliot Abrams, has written a somewhat critical article of Donald Trump's foreign policy. Get your take on that. Victor Spencer Pratt says I'm going to war . We have a great , I mean an important piece of reporting by the Washington Free Beacon about these Hamas is turning Gaza hospitals into torture chambers . 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That's join a df ot com slash Hansen or text Hansen to eight three eight four eight . We are back with Victor Davis Hansen in his own words where Victor is now in the beautiful Central Valley of California. It is, you just tell me ahead of time about one hundred two, three. one hundred four, I think it is outside, yeah, one hundred four and, hundred and one five. It's very hot for June. Yeah . We're weeping here because it's eighty five and muggied, but we got up to the mid nineties last week here in Connecticut, but we can't hold a candle to what you endure there, Victor. So dry heat though, it's desert heat . It's not I spent , you know, I was at Napolis for a year and I could take one hundred five here in the valley more than eighty five there because of the mug, the humidity, you can't breathe or anything . When I first Sharon and I were first married, we moved we were down in Fredericksburg for six or seven years and New Yorkers are obnoxious about everything, but particularly obnoxious about southerners and they're slow, right? We make fun of them. But having lived there, I thought, if you go through twelve days straight of high mid ity and ninety nine degree heat. You're going to be you're going to take it slow also. So that's what Aristel said . He was trying to explain the vigor of the northern tribes . Oh , and the Romans felt the same thing. The Germans of the Gauls, they lived in such cold climates compared to the Mediterranean people. They were very vigorous . Like the Swedes were some of the great fighters . Yeah once upon a tour. Oh, maybe still are. I don't think so . Okay . Well, Jay Clayton has been appointed the named the director of National Intelligence for Donald Trump . This comes on the heels of Tulsa Gabbard's resigning and a controversial temporary solution there. Any thoughts on Jay Clayton Victor? Well, Tulsa is at this side. Tulsa's kind of going out with a bang, isn't she? She's releasing a lot of things on UFO's and overreach by government people , some things on the election. So it's an exciting time. He's the ultimate on the conservative side professional. I think he was head of the SEC and he's a Washington lawyer . So he's a professional. And I think right now in that administration , given they've had people like Matt Getz who was not confirmed or who had bat out, but it's more of a mainstream, less controversial appointment. You know what I mean? Kind of a he's a very good guy's probe Trump and all that stuff, but he's's not it going to be a Pambondi type appointment. And I like Pam Bondi. I didn't mean to put someone who's familiar with Washington is what I'm trying to say . Okay . You agree Have I ever disagreed with you about anything other than how many archangels there are, I think agreed with you on everything, Richter. Okay, Gordon Wood , a great historian, ninety two years old , well acclaimed historian and he was mowed down in a parking lot in Rhode Island this past week. He taught at Brown University. Victor, you must have crossed you hist aorian . I've met him two or three times. He was a consummate gentleman . When the sixteen nineteen Fiord came out, he was not grandstanding, he just sober and judiciously basically showed why it was wrong . And he was he knew from A to Z the status of slavery and how it affected the founding fathers and the decoration and the Constitution. He voiced his opinion. They were always excellent. I was curious about how old the person was just because I was wondering if it was an older driver or young or what, how that happened? Because you don't hear of a person being run over very often in a parking lot. In a parking lot? No , but you know, you would think maybe maybe someone a robbery flee fleeing something . It could be an old lady who well , I don't know. Being an old lady like my age seventy two I become a very sensitive now because of old man or cancer survivor. I got a lot of whole victim status qualifications . Elder news, Jack Yeah, I accused someone in my company of they had to do something for me or would be senior. There would be senior abuse as an official senior. Hey, Victor, okay, well, let's let's talk about something serious . Not that not that Gordon Wood's passing isn't serious . But I thought it was pretty long and detailed and critical piece published at National Review Online the other day by Elliot Abrams . It's titled In Trump Second Term , things start to fall apart. And I'll just read here quickly . He has said in the seventeenth month of his second term, there's confusion and failure . The achievements of the second term in foreign affairs are real. The attacks in Iran in june twenty twenty five and now in twenty twenty six decapitated the regime, greatly diminished Iran's economy and its military power, similarly bolder the decapitation of the regime in Venezuela and the squeeze on Cuba. But in Europe, where the Ukraine war continues and in Asia , where Zh Juinping continues his threat against Taiwan, there are no achievements to list. In fact , relations with India critical during the twenty first century have been damaged, and President Trump seems poised to throw the achievements he has made. I never thought of Elliot Abrams or someone in the bulwarky, John Bolton, whatever Trump does is I don't think he is. I don't think he is. But I would disagree. I mean, when he's talking about his second term, when we came in , the Chinese were running the entry in the exit of Panama . And there were a lot of communist governments in South America and Venezuela, he mentioned Venezuela, but I mean it was the largest oil reserves I think it was first or second in the world . And it was basically a captive of China and all of a sudden, I mean Cuba is inert right now . Conservative governments are being elected in Latin America. It's starting to return to its pro American stance , the Chinese are shut out basically they don't control the Panama Canal in the fashion they did . Venezuela's good . We had the bombing last June of twenty six hours that did some damage a lot of damage to the nuclear facilities , we have waged , you know , thirty thirty eight days of bombing and then we've had sixty two days of negotiation on and off tit for tat, but the accident rate in the U. S. military , Jack is it's about , oh, I think it's about one hundred , maybe it's fifty a month or sixty a month . It's about one or two a day . So you mean death ? Yes, one or one and a half deaths on average a day. So in thirty eight days, just by accidents, the U. S. military would lose, say, forty people. We only lost thirteen that were tragic . So by any standard, that's amazing given the amount of damage that we did . So I don't know what I think his criticism is that he was excited that we did so much damage so quickly and then we allowed them that negotiating style that they're infamous for on and off haggling rug merchant type stuff . And now here we are all the way all the way into mid June and we don't have resolution . And you can't trust anything they say. So Donald Trump is trying to, I guess, suggest to us, he's done such a level of damage . When the other night they took out parts, I looked at some of the clips they had of, you know, they we just casually say , well, they kind of went hit the Republican guard headquarter. You know what I mean? Headquarters, you know, you think it's like a firewright. I looked at the thing. I mean it was just demolished . It was like a city block. It was just boom . And so when they say that Israel did the hit the Republican and then the United States. These are really amazingly destructive things that we're doing even in a day, in a night . And so is wrong with this story, and I think something is wrong with it. Iran is much closer to bankruptcy , given that people were predicting a month ago they couldn't go on for two weeks given the sanctions, freezing their assets and the blockade, but I think four hundred million a week, right? Yes, like that . Yes. And they're in or some people were saying even today , they're in bad straits. And so I think that what Trump is saying is that he was just we thought that they were waiting us out and he's I think he and his advisors think they're waiting Iran out. In other words , they can recoup, pivot , get the price of oil down, address the midterms more quickly than Ir an can bounce back . And Iran is at the ropes right now and it's very close to utter bankruptcy. And that's why and then the question is if they're close to utter bankruptcy and other than a few missiles and naval mosquito boats or PT boats that can disrupt the strait, what else can they really do? And not much . So I think that's his argument. What the danger that Trump is having is that one third of the country, whatever he did opp osed, and hysterically so, that was the left . One third was willing to overlook an incursion. They don't like, you know, it was kind of the MAGA Fringe and some independence if it was like last June or like Venezuela or like Solomani or like Baghdadi or like the Wagner Group, you know what I mean? Or Venezuela ? They're, you know, in, out , surgical, no , that's very rare in war, but that's they were supporting that . The other third was supportive all the way down , but they were the hard liners and, he's losing support from them. And I think Elliot Abrams , this is why I'm drawing that comparison . They want Iran completely neutered, and this was the chance of a lifetime to actually get an American president who wasn't afraid of them and did so much damage to them so quickly and then pause hiatus and then made the Israelis pause. And so I think Elliot Abrams is saying whatever they do, they're going to lie, and you know what they're going to do. They're going to try to get the bomb at some point. They're going to try to get their missiles back, and they're going to try to intimidate the Gulf and destroy Israel. That's what they're there for. And they're and I think Trump is he would argue and I haven't talked to him. Obviously, he would say they're broke . They don't have a navy, they really don't have an army. They're destitute. And I can do this anytime I want. I have a carrier group in that area we always do in that part of the world. One carrier group can destroy that country given its feeble status right now and we're willing to do it if they break anything. That's what he's arguing . But the subtext of all of this is the Iranian people they'll have to face the Iranian people in the sense that when it's all this negotiation is over one way or the other and they got income again, are they going to lower the price of gas for consumers ? Are they going to try to fix civilian infrastructure? Or are they going to go spend all the money on centrifuges and another Pykex mountain and Hamas ? And if they do, I think they're going to have a lot of domestic turmoil. I think they're going to have domestic turmoil anyway. Anyway, yeah. But there's he's starting to lose support now from some of the hardliners . People like you and me that don't trust I haven't lost support for them, but I'm worried that we need to know how damaged they are before you would trust them to abide by any agreement or how determined the administration is to hit them hard when they break it and they will break it because they've never abided by any agreement . Yeah . Well, you are talking on Saturday. Donald Trump has said and before we started recording this bono reversal tom butorrow Sunday , the fourteenth, there's supposed to be a signing of this , well, it's not a surrender document, but it's an agreement . But whether there is a signing or not we'll discuss that on a moment. It's going to be interesting too, because their feed is, their credibility in the Shiak world and the Arab world is acting insane and unpredictable and terrifying their own population . Are they going to sign this thing ? And then tomorrow death to America, we're going to kill the Great Saint and do the whole boilerplate immediately ? I don't know. We'll see. If they start in and then whip themselves up, I think we have enough assets to stop it if they try to launch more missiles in the Gulf or something . But getting back to Elliot Abrams , you know I'd like him to give us the alternative that's all. The alternative we've all these other scenarios. So after nine eleven, we wanted to punish Afghanistan and we decided we weren't going to do what we're doing now in Iran. We weren't going to just bomb and we weren't going to , you know, just bomb them and then negotiate and keep them confined. So we went into Afghanistan. And once we went in there, we were there for twenty years and what two thousand five hundred dead and fifteen thousand casualties and two trillion dollars ? And what do we have? Taliban with fifty billion dollars of our equipment . We went into Iraq and I think Iraq turned out a lot better than Afghanistan. There are elections and there are some moderate people there, but we lost over four thousand three hundred or something dead . And we spent another trillion dollars plus . So we haven't done that . And I think Elliot needs to realize that we took on the most powerful country in the Middle East, ninety three million people. Every other country was terrified of it. So was Europe . And there's some very quickly, Jack, there's some misinformation about the war. Number one is they said , I heard Hycom Jeffrey say that, well, you know, the strike was open , and now it's not. So what Donald Trump did was make it worse . Hikim . The strait was open because nobody dared touch Iran . Nobody dared touch their nuclear program. Nobody dared touch their missiles. Nobody in the Arab world, even Israel was very wary . Europe didn't do it. That's why the strait was open. The moment anybody or soon after anybody made that fate ful decision that said not just what seven presents they can't have a bomb. They will not have a bomb. They all said that. But once one person actually acted on it, of course they were going to try to close the straight . That's and then the second one is, well, this is no different than the Obama deal. Why do we get out of that? And now we're trusted no it's a big deal nobody's giving them nighttime four hundred million dollars in cash. There's sanctions, they're broke. And just take an aerial photograph of Tehran and its military complexes in Iran , when Obama was negotiating and do it now. It's a whole different situation They are flattened compared to what we were negotiating with them before . And another one is this he's ruined the mega base. It's a forever endless war . No, it was thirty eight days about a little over half of what Bill Clinton did. Bill Clinton didn't get congressional authorization. Bill Clinton hit hospitals , he hit museums, he hit schools, he hit bridges , he hit power plants. Nobody said a word and to get rid of Melos ovic in nineteen ninety nine, seven months for Obama . thirty eight days is not a forever endless war. It's just not. And so there's problems with the war, and that is trusting these people I tend to be agree a lot with Jack Keane what he's saying. I mean he doesn't want it to be true, but he's just said given their behavior in the past, you when you make a negotiation, any negotiation, you should be ready for them to break it because they have an agenda, they want to bomb, they want to bully everybody in the region. They want to destroy Israel. That's their agenda. Which makes it seem like actually signing an agreement could just be the ater. I mean, it's something it's something for the market. A lot of the economy . I really like JD Bans, but he said something, did you see what he said yesterday ? No . He said all wars end in negotiations . And he was defending the administration . He said World War two ended in it didn't end in negotiation. I'm sorry. It ended in one this was decided at Casablanca . It was decided and Stalin didn't have a vote on it. It was Roosevelt Churchill unconditional surrender . No negotiations . Japan , unconditional surrender , no negotiations . Civil war, US grant . Ulysses S grant, you know why they called him that? It was a joke. Unconditional surrender grant . That wasn't what it stood for. The S people argue what it was, but he got that name for not negotiating. And when Blee came to Appalomatox and Joe Johnson came to Sherman, there was only one thing . Should you give them their side arms? Can they have their horses and swords? But they have surrendered utterly . World War one, eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month . It was an arm ysist, but it was a surrender . They agreed to vacate completely France . And then six months later, that was the mistake. Six months later were eighty percent of the Allied for ces was out of Europe, but nevertheless they went to Versailles and they signed the Versailles agreement. And that was pretty much an utter unconditional surrender , especially the war clause guilt clause. Maybe a lot of you listening say well Victor that caused World War two? No, it didn't No, no, it was not too punitive. What caused World War two was the elements of the Versailles Treaty were not enforced. They were never once they started building a Luftwaffe which was forbidden and an army over a hundred thousand was forbidden and had the anchlus with Austria which was forbidden and the Allies didn't do anything, well then there you will have it. And we don't see that to happen. We occupy the Rhineland that was just they did it. The first thing Hitler said he almost fainted and he said, What did they ? He said, They could have stopped it in fifteen seconds. We have no army really. And they said, My fear, and he said, I knew it, I knew it. But he was expecting to be stopped. And the Iranians were expecting to be stopped because the Iranians are in the situation right now . The Iranians to the degree they're still generals. They know that Donald Trump says I'm going to hit them hard tonight. There's nothing they can do , nothing . Maybe they can send up some drones that'll hit an Apache or something, but otherwise they are going to lose. And if Donald Trump says, if you break this agreement again , we catch you mining the harbor or sending missiles into Kuwait. We're going to take out five power plants and they're going they're thinking we are broke . If he takes out five power plants, we're going to be in darkness for twenty percent of the country and we're broke and that's five billion dollars we have to come up with to fix that. And we don't have it. So let's get real about where they are . 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Well, you know, Hillsdale for a college that size teen, seventeen hundred , it has the I think it has the largest classics department and one of the best. And when Larry Arn came there, that was not they had some good people, but it wasn't necessarily true. So he has created the strongest classics department for a college that size in the United States . And it's a pretty amazing classics department. It's a pretty amazing history department. And it's top notch historians and classicists. And they play a very prominent role in that campus on committes and determining curriculum . I think I've told that story the first time I got to Hillsdale I'd lectured there a couple of times but when I was actually hired to teach there for a month and two during my vacation two thousand four was my first year and I went to the bookstore and I looked at the course catalogs, you know, I wanted to see what books . And I thought, wow, there's no word studies . There's no environmental studies. There's no black studies. There's no Chicano studies, there's no leisure studies, there's no peace studies . There's no anything studies . It's either , you know, history of World War two or Plato and Aristotle its St. Thomas Aquinas or its great, you know, Dickens, great novels of the victor of nineteenth century England. It was they're just meat and potato stuff . They were all solid classes. Not one therapeutic course , not one. Big schools with therapeutic courses are struggling deeply. We may not have time to talk about it on the show , maybe on the next , but Syracuse, big college, Clemson, big college and they offer the courses you were , you know, women's studies, whatever the hell studies. And they are starting to circle the drain despite their reputation and size. I couldn't believe that you mentioned it before, but the UC faculty this was not minor campuses, UC Berkeley. These the faculty member who are ninety five percent left said need, We the SAT . We're letting in people who cannot read and we as professors cannot assign , you know, they can't a hundred pages a week was not very much. One of the professors was quoted and it's like five . And that was one of the reasons that I retired in two thousand four. I think I've mentioned, I've had two or three students and they came to me and you know, it was just like read the Odyssey in two weeks , read the Iliad in two weeks, read a play of Sophocles, twelve hundred lines in a week . That was the kind of assignment. Eight or nine things over fif ateen week semester and they said, We can't do this. I said, You can't do it because you're not studying. They said, No, we can't. So I said, You know how we're going to solve this? Come to my office and you'll read out loud . And they could not read a page in ten minutes and they hadn't been admitted . And that once you admit somebody who the point is it's not an abstract standard. Once a university or college admits someone someone and they don't have the skills or they haven't demonstrated the skills to meet the criterion that you have established as a college. You have selected these courses, you have a general education committee, you have approved them, you've had them submit the reading list, you know the exam s, and that is your trademark, that's your gold standard. So you admit students that can meet this acceler ated tough course load and curriculum and then you can guarantee a graduate law, a graduate medical school, a corporate employer , a high school ed,ucation anybody that your person is stamped, branded with your Cornell or UC Davis , BA , and they will have certain assurances from you . But if you, the University say, wow , that's racist. That's not fair, that's not equity, that's not DI. So we're going to let in people without SAT. We have no idea about the reading comprehension. And if they have a straight Average from an inner city school and somebody has a B plus from Paulta school , it's the same . And then you have them come in and then what do you do? If you don't want to be called illiberal , you either what inflate the grades as Yale and Stanford does seventy to eighty percent A and then that means nothing and then graduate school looks wow . An guothery from Stanford or Yale or Harvard with an A straight A means nothing or you bring in new courses with studies on them , cartoons, Marvel Comics , the Black Panther Comic series , the X Men study disabilities and you can read X Men comics . You can do that, but you'll still not solve the problem or you can do what these professors are doing now, having the same courses, but cutting them by two thirds and say it's, you know, introduction to Western literature and we're going to read one story one book . Well there's I'm going to put that we'll get to that India thing I mentioned before. Let's pick up on this then Victor because this so folks if they want to follow this, they should go to the College Fix which has an article on this. So it's titled Learning Crisis. UC Berkeley H istory professor cuts reading assignments by two thirds. As Victor said they were used to were expected to read a hundred pages a week two decades ago and now that's cut dramatically . And this the professor who wrote this, Carlos Norena says we are now reaching a crisis point where if the number of pages goes down further, it's unclear to me whether my discipline of history can really be taught. So that was one thing Victor also with California and troubling and it involves the university the UC system says more than one thousand UC professors, they want back the standardized test because they're saying for the STEM students they let's see observe preparation gaps so severe that instructors must re teach middle school mathematics while simultaneously teaching the material students need for sciences, engineering, economics, and other quantitatively demanding fields. So I'm going to a UC school. I'm going to be an engineer, but I don't know that what one half plus one third equals because I don't know this math. Somehow or other though, I graduated with honors in math it's a tee it's a T ball philosophy. You put the ball on a platform and then everybody you get as many strikes as you want and everybody's the same. There's no winners, there's no losers . But there is losers because you're in a global competitive situation and our school system is shot, it's bankrupt. Everybody knows it . And I don't understand , you know, it's based on this proportional representation that we take the United States and then we divide it up by tribes. Oh, here's ten percent Asians, or here's twelve percent Latino or here's eleven twelve percent black or here's sixty seven percent white or whatever. And then we say, well, you know what? If we were just to do SAT and grades, we would have too many whites and too many Asians . Notice what I said, not too many whites alone, too many whites and Asians who are considered by the DI industry, no they're not white . So then what we have to do to be proportionally represent , we've got to let the other two groups come in to reflect at least prior to George Floyd their demography percentages after George Floyd we went, into reparatory admissions. So as I said before, Stanford was letting in about thirty percent white males because they represent thirty percent of the population, roughly, maybe a little bit more. But then they started letting in nine percent to make room for other people who they didn't have to take the SAT, they didn't have to have a comparative standard app lied to their GPAs . And then the result was just as we see with UC Berkeley, only the Stanford faculty is much further to the left. They didn't want to talk about it. So they whispered , they whispered about it . Oh my gosh . My upper division literature class I only got about six people and they can't read. I don't know what I'm going to do . I guess they got to get them all layers. I don't want to have a pattern systemic racist pattern of giving certain people D's and C , that was what was going on . And you know, it's it's a very funny concept proportional representation . I think most people would say some of the most lucrative jobs in the United States and the most prestigious, surely the most exposure is the NBA is like we're seeing with a New York Nicks . Anybody on that twelve person or fifteen person team is an elite in salary and prestige, but I don't think any of us say wait a minute there's no Asians . There's no white people there should be a third no , maybe a fourth should be white that's mostly African American and some Europeans or foreigners . What's going on here? Nobody says that. Nobody says that about the , you know the NFL or nobody says that. They do say it about the major leagues now a lot of the left wing sports writers there's, not enough African Amer icans. Well, there are still more than twelve percent in the in the national baseball league , you know, major league baseball that are they are more they're more they are overrepresented according to use the language of the Left, but they just don't have the same overrepresentational numbers and dominance they used to. So what I'm getting at is I don't know what the left means when they use these quotas, affirmative action or what they're trying to do to socially engineer or culturally engineer proportions, but they're very uneven and hypocritical Anytime a particular group is overrepresented in one category , then it doesn't matter . But if they're under represented in another category, then we have to feel that it's systemic racism. Yeah. Well, black white any color, what's it going to be like in fifteen years now Victor when the civil engine the kids going to school for civil engineering can't do the kind of Matthew and I did in the in the third grade . I can tell you that coming out of Stanford Medical School , being in the Stanford Med Center and talking to people , there was some worry I got the impression just listen ing to people that they are using and I think the Trump administration is targeting them now . They are using criteria other than the MSAT entrance test and GPA to determine medical students there . And that's that's a mistake because life is human life is human life. We don't care what color a person is. We just want the most skilled people as doctors. We want meritocracy. That's what we want. Yeah . Wow . Well, Victor, we're going to take a little break and when we come back, we'll get I'll raise that into here a question. We'll talk about Spencer Pratt and maybe some something about Hamas. We'll do that when we come back from these important messages. Hey, I'm Bradley Devlin, and just like you, I'm a huge fan of Victor Davis Hansen. Whether it's his long form podcast, Victor Davis Hansen in his own words, or his short form content for the Daily Signal, Victor Davis Hansen in a few words, might always leave an episode learning something new. I think they forgot the nineteen eighty two Falklands War. 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So please do check that all out. Victor , what Elliot Abrams , not to harp on him, but just the point about relations with India have been damaged. Do you think what do you what do you make of our relations with India? Have they been damaged? Are they critical ? You know, we felt we talked about Middle East all the time. We talk about China, but I don't think they're damaged . I think he's talking about the tariffs and I think he's critical that we are We are highlighting Pakistan as an interlocutor with Iran . But the reason that we're doing that is because Iran is a Muslim nation and we feel that maybe the negotiations might be handled better and Pakistan is an ally . Our relationship with India has been very ambiguous all through the Cold War. Remember, remember India was on the Russian side , and we backed Pakistan as in that and I think that was a mistake. India was a democracy of sorts or was a democracy is Pakistan wasn't. It had elections occasionally, but it's not as transparent as that. And then, of course , I think we've been very fair to India . India India is getting enormous amount of redirected factory American investment out of China into India. It's an English speaking country. It wants the investment. We've been very cooperative with weapons systems. Modi's a good friend of Trump . But when Elliot says that, he should look at contemporary immigration figures. And if he did , he would say that India is the most privileged of all countries HB one visas, for example , and in actual terms of legal immigration and illegal It's on a trajectory to pass people from Latin America . We are giving people from India an enormous latitude to come into the United States. And you know, we don't have to do that, but we're doing it based on meritocracy in the case of HBO's and stuff. But there's a lot of criticism of that because that comes at the expense of American jobs . And we've had some differences , especially with the thousands of licenses that have been issued to seek drivers who came here illegally and didn't know English. And the responsible states, New York, but especially California, apparently thought that it's street signs, you know , one hundred miles to Bakersfield,it E Fxres,n o, Caution, Yld were written some language other than English, because they didn't ask these people . So they were privileged is what I'm saying. And if you look at today's result results at the end of the week of all these elections that we've had, you will see that never have we had more Indian American candidates everywhere from Raman to to , you know, the second lady of the United States. So I don't quite get that that he's damaged Indian relationships. India has more influence with the United States than it ever had , and it has more of its own population, expatriate population here in the United States than it ever has . And it's clamoring and demanding more and more and more . And the United States has been very reasonable about that . So I think the more when I read the article that he wrote and I tried to digest what was the point, I think the point was that he that he was disappointed that he thought we were going to go in as we had done for thirty eight days and destroy Iran's ability to make war again st anybody along with Israel . And Donald Trump all apparently thought that he had done that or done sufficiently enough that with the addition of sanctions and bank freezings and target ed a blockade that he could bankrupt them without doing further damage to the country so that there might be a stimulus for a revolution or something. So we disagreed with that. But I don't think that was a reason to suggest that we've treated India badly or and as far as Taiwan , I think right now and unless I'm mistaken , China is not in a good position . As I said, it's lost its Western hemisphere presence . Along with Russia, it's not going to have an influence with Iran like it did. The Assad government is gone in Syria . The Gulf States are very angry at the Chinese for selling air defenses and missiles and their client North Korea arming Iran whose missiles then hit them. Those were either Chinese or North Korean copycated . And so I don't see that their presence has been enhanced by this war. They've lost sanctioned oil from Venezuela, they've lost sanctioned oil from Iran . When you looked at the quality of their weapons, their air defenses that they sold, the Iranians were broken in a day, two days. They were pathetic. The United States , on the other hand, whether it's picking people up with drone boats or hitting B two s with bunker , we have been superb . And I just don't think China is in that great its fertility is one point zero . They've got a million people in camps. They're import ing thirty percent of their food . They're pointing they have to have eleven million barrels of oil every single day. We're the greatest exporter of oil in the history of civilization and producer . So I don't get that we've empowered China . And if we'd learned anything from the use of drones in the Ukraine war and in Iran , it's going to be very, very hard to go across ninety eight miles of the South China Sea from the mainland to go into Taiwan when it Taiwan rearms and they're doing it frantically and the United States is there with can put ten thousand drones and it's not going to be easy to invade . So I don't see how they're emboldened or they're more powerful. I really don' t. I don't think that Taiwan is weaker. I think they're in a much better place than they were. As far as Ukraine, Donald Trump I would remind Elliot that Donald Trump was the president who green lighted weapons for that Barack Obama had stopped. He didn't want them to have javelins. If they didn't have javelins, they wouldn't have had Kyiv . And Biden put a hold on it. Biden was the one who said he would react whether it was a major or minor invasion. Donald Trump, we got to remember , it wasn't it was not the Bush administration, it was not the Obama administration. It was not the Biden administration in which in which Vladimir Putin did not leave his borders. It was only one administration that he didn't invade somebody. And that was the Trump administration. There was a reason for that . Trump was the one that said to the Germans, do not do the Nordstrom two pipeline. Just don't do it. You're just going to empower Putin . And if the Wagner grew, he killed more Russians than we killed during the entire Cold War probably two hundred, three hundred plus of the Wagner Group. We got out of that asymmetrical missile deal with Russia. So I just don't get all this all this stuff is boilerplate. It's not empirical. They don't look at the actual data . And Russia has been weakened by the Ukraine war and the war against Iran . The winners in the war against Iran have been Israel and the Gulf States . And the loser is Iran and its patrons , China and Russia . And the loser in the Ukraine war, I don't know if they're going to lose that much land, but the loser so far Russia. They've lost a million people. And they probably lost a half a trillion dollars . So they're not stronger . The world is changing, but it's changing in the favor of the United States . Not no PEC's favor either. Victor, we're going to get closer to home California in a minute, but first to our listeners and to our viewers, American homeowners. The FBI has been warning about a type of real estate fraud called title theft and your equity is the target. The justified signature, your ownership can be transferred out of your name . And without protection in place, you're left with an emotional and financial nightmare. And that's why you should visit home title lock. So you can find out today if you're already a victim and protect yourself. 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This is from Red State and after Karen Bass , this is watch it they'll wish the mail ballot fraud scheme to elevate Raman had never taken place. Pratt says he's moving on from the campaign phase of his mission to save Los Angeles to the next more interesting phase reminding people that his goal wasn't to become mayor but to expose the corrupt machine and that he's laser focused on just that. Do you think they can really get rid of me that easily? says Pratt. Hey Morons I, didn't get into this for political power. I got into this to expose the corrupt machine. Nothing's changed. You enjoy your worthless meetings in City Hall. I've been lighting you up every single day and now I don't have to worry about offending CNN viewers . I don't have campaign laws hamstring me now. It's war. He made threat. He has threats of he's got some videos and documents that are going to be very harmful to one of the two candidates . Victor, I think he's here to stay. I don't know. What do you think? Yeah, I think so. I think he's a receptor. I think what he's referring to is that every would be whistle blower or discontent is sending him material . He's the person to do it and he will air it. And that's going to give him a lot of exposure and clout . But I mean , when you run for office in Los Angeles or California in general, what he's basically saying, the subtext is , is it so hard to say that if you want to be a voter then you don't just go to get a building permit or apply for disability and give your name and they mail it to it, you just register to vote. You just go to a state office and you take the initiative and you register and then you give an address. You show a driver's lic ense, California driver's license, which is now not required . You must, you should have to have a driver's license or a state issued ID, one or the other . They mail it, you give them address, they check it on a computer to see if you're actually at that address and they mail you one ballot . And then you take that ballot and if you want to fill it out, we could call it an absentee ballot. Maybe you would be ill, but more like ly you should go to the polls and you should show your California driver's license again . And we don't do that . But we do, if you want to get disability , I mean , I couldn't I must have been to forty medical procedure things for this latest bout with cancer. I'm talking about blood draws. I'm talking about x rays, CTs , lung volume . place Every I went , can I see your ID ? Can I see your ID? Can I see your ID ? But not to vote not to vote that's just crazy. So what he's saying is you people conduct elections and you have no idea who's voting . You give licenses to people here illegally and that license is used to get a registered vote , but you don't even check if they're at the address . You don't even check if they know English. They don't have to nobody has to know it. How could you vote and not know the language of the country? By making an X, you can do that in California with a witness . And then what's so hard? I mean India, you're talking about India one point four billion. They don't take a week to tally the ballots . And what's the good of saying, well, we authenticate. Well, you have to authenticate it because you have so many laxities built in this corrupt system . And even then when you did that in the twenty twenty four election, you only rejected. zero nine of the ballots . So you're not really auditing them. You're letting them go right by you. I think the election exposed kind of California reached critical mass at that point. People said to themselves , this state is dysfunctional. It can't conduct honest, transparent elections with readily tabulated votes. Nobody trusted anymore. It has no confidence of the population . And we understand what's happening. Three to five hundred thousand people are living a year that are taxpayers and the middle and upper middle class brackets . When they go , then we have more entitlements and more people come into the state either legally or legally that are impoverished and there's less and less money to pay for more and more people that want federal, state, local help in California . And therefore , we're going to do what? We're going to raise the gas tax. We're going to raise the income tax. We're going to raise the property tax, and then more people are going to go and then more people are going to come in to get more. And that's where we're in a doom loop . And it's not going to get better. It's going to be a third, it is a third world country. It's falling apart. And when you add two hundred fifty billion dollars of fraud and stolen monies and I must say trying to be as objective as I can I've been following that story and I would conservatively suggest that the names that are in the paper , online pictures I would say of the people who've been arrested, sixty to seventy five percent are immigrants . So that's not a good look . People coming over there instead of kissing the soil and saying, Thank God, I'm in the United States. I owe so much for my host . It's not it's oh man, there's nobody these people are stupid. They give away stuff. I'm going to get mine. That's that's the wrong attitude . Yeah . Somebody, hey, we flew them over here even at our own expense so they could then rip us off. It's easy to connect those dots. There's an online publication out of Fresno Victor, I just coincidentally saw it the other day. I think it's G . And it had an article by two nonprofit leaders. People with Catholic organization. You know they',re trying to do the Lord's work . And we're hurting in the Central Valley Ned. There are fewer donors and the reason is people are leaving. People are trying to leave just last week, two people that I would say are in the high income brackets. They pay a ton of taxes . They basically said , I'm done. I pay as one person said, with the federal income tax and the Medicare and the Obamacare and the California thirteen point three , I pay fifty eight percent of my income. And I get the worst roads . I get gang bangers, I get high crime , I get filthy streets, I get homelessness , and I get elections like they're in Los Angeles and we're sitting on a bonanza of gas and oil and we have six dollars fifty dollars gas . We have some of the we have second Second largest, third largest forestry industry, and we let it burn down. We have sixty million trees that burned up and we were we drove everything about except maybe two companies. We have rare earth mineral. We have everything . It's the most richly endowed state in the country and the most beautiful and it's the most ill governed. So they're leaving and you know, I don't know what's going to happen and you get the impression that people want them to go. It's like the Seattle Mayor bye bye . And the dying citizen, I quoted an immigrant and he was quoted as saying We're so happy you people are leaving because you're making room for us and we're taking over . And he was a Silicon Valley HB one visa per person and he said all this. He thought it was so cute, but he was right . They don't want people to stay here . And I don't know what's going to end up. It's Los Angeles used to be just twenty years ago I would go downtown and it was in a renaiss ance. It was booming. These high rises were going up. It was immaculate. They had a downtown . It was an exciting place to be. I remember I had a book and I went from Jonathan Club to the California , the community. I would just walk back and forth downtown in the early afternoon and I didn't see one homeless person. MacArthur Park was clean twenty years ago . So I think everybody should keep that in mind because you have to be very careful about presentism, the arrogance that history is morally or technologically better single year . It's not. History is undulating . It's perfectly reasonable to think that in nineteen A ninety or twenty ten, things were better than they are now in California. That's historically accurate. That happens all the time . And I think people , you know, Elon Musk , there was a good article that when he was thirty two , he went to NASA and said basically fourteen astronauts have been killed. There's no rocket. You're paying eighty or ninety million dollars to the Russians for each launch. We don'ted even Saturn is F obive solete. You mouthballed it. You have a monopoly of NASA. Nobody looks at space other than just a government job. If you'll let me have a new rocket company and I'd like to bid . And he gave a testimony to Congress . And he was saying that it's very hard for me to launch a missile from a California Air Force Base, even though it's on Federal, you have to pay ten thousand dollars to see if the sound hurts the sound hurts the seal . And now we learn that we drove him out and we were happy to drop him out and you go online and people revel on the idea we drove Elon Musk out. Well, he has a trillion dollar I mean a trillion dollars left. It could have all been in California . All of that. Tesla headquarters , you know, SpaceX , all of that could have been here , booming, exciting, but we wanted him out . And when you don't have that type those types of people and you drive them out, what do you replace it with? Graham Platiner , I mean AOC , Elizabeth Warren, what do those people ever make? What I can't think of anything they've done that provided jobs or revenue to the state . So maybe maybe you fell the jobs with perverts. So let me let's close out with this, Victor I captioned this. Why are we upset about Epstein when the Biden administration was a de facto sex smuggling ring? So I'm reading here from Ryan Fournier, who posted on acting and this is a story I'm sure most of our listeners have heard acting agent Todd Blanche just announced indictments for three individuals involved in a massive child smuggling ring. But the real bombshell is what he said next. The Department of Justice has officially uncovered over fifteen thousand five hundred super sponsor cases. Read that number again, fifteen thousand five hundred because of the Biden administration's disastrous and broken border policy, thousands of innocent children were essentially handed over to criminal networks, traffickers and abusers. They completely turned a blind eye while the worst of the worst exploited the system right in our backyard absol,utely sick ening. Something about the Left Victor, it's fine, let's sex traffic kids here in England let's let these grooming gangs rape rape little girls just something so perverse about the left. And any thoughts about this? Yeah, I mean , what did we think was going to happen when we stopped construction on the wall and we let in ten thousand to twelve thousand people a day ? ten to twelve million over four years. ten thousand a day . We did not have a health background. We had no idea if they had tuberculosis. We had no idea if they had COVID , malaria. We know now that some of these disease vectors sp iked . We have five hundred thousand criminals, people coming did we understand that they were emptying the prisons of Venezuela and other places to give us their worst that came up here and they kept doing it. And then we had this toxic Maorkas who kept, I mean, he was almost like Baghdad Bob in the in the first Iraq war. He kept saying the border is secure and you'd look around and ten thousand people were in line walking across the border . He just severely lied to us. And everybody should keep that in mind because as much as you're disgrunted about the Iran war or the prices have gone up for gas . That's true and you it's legitimate and I saw that Eric Ericsson, you know, the conservative I don't know him, but he did he was the head of Red State, I think . He said he has a new name for Trump. He's a clown because he says everything . Yes, he does say the negotiations are going on. They're off. We're going to bomb. Yes. And that confuses us and that's unfortunate also confuses the enemy. But that doesn't it's it's not the personalities . It's if you you're going to get a choice in twenty twenty eight and believe me, these people who are running are going to either themselves get elected, or they're going to push Harris or Newsom even further to the left , and you're going to get ten, fifteen thousand a day coming across . You're going to get fourteen , fifteen million. We know that. Because look at those ICE demonstrations, they're demonstrating even when they know that IC is arresting felons. That doesn't bother them . You're going to get trans thing. You're going to get the whole trans back at U. S. Air Force Bases, back in library. It's all going to be back . You're going to get DI all back again . You're going to get the green fanaticism. You're going to get all these corrupt foundations and NGOs with contracts with the government for homelessness , all the Somali problems back , all the stuff in California. It's all going to come back . And yet just because you disagree with him on the Iran war, or you disagree that he's all over the place. O your think it' s Gauche that he has this mixed martial arts arena coming up or you're mad about he put his name on the Kennedy. Yeah, that those are legitimate concerns, but it doesn't it doesn't involve the exist ential question Do you want the country to go further further left or do you want it to stop and be more traditionalist the way it was? And that's it . That's all that matters . And this is not Bill Clinton. This was Bill Clinton running . You could make an argument that he was liberal and the foreign policy would allow people to take advantage as they did , but you know, he would balance the budget or he would get more police officers or he said that he was against illegal immigration. He was going to close. This is not Bill Clinton. This is not even this isn't even Barack Obama . This is something different, man. This is a weird Socialist, communist, Islamists, extremists, Jacobin party that and they are the they are the driver of the Democratic Party. Yeah, pro criminal , pro deviant and hate America. They hate . Look at the reaction to the Carmelo Anthony Murder. I mean, there's a whole genre now online. I guess they're photoshop of people urinating on the grave of Metcalf, I mean that's sick and the whole community reaction , there's about half of the Black community who really believes that Metcalf was evil and they're glad that he was killed and they're online . And you know, it doesn't make and there's people in the Black Caucus that are supporting that . It's it's different than OJ, which is the other, you know, people will think back to that. But that was that was a well, he didn't do it. There was no evidence. Of course, there was evidence that he, but that but this case the, evidence of this kid sticking the knife in met calf, there's no question of that. But the comeback from some people, you touch us . That's what's going to happen. Yeah, and then they write into the world. Then they're intellectuals, these intellectual s write things will you misunderstanding the black male that you don't understand? When you touch it, that means something in the black community. No , it's not the black community or the white community or any community . It just means that when you intrude into a place in a partisan atmosphere and you're politely asked fifteen times to leave and everybody in the tent wants you to leave and you say touch me and somebody touches you to suggest you leave and then you put a knife through the bone of his chest into his heart and somehow that's self defense and it's racism if he's convicted of murder , when there were what four minorities on the jury. And the only reason there were not black jurors because they asked them , could you , if you found the evidence persuasive , convict an African and I said, No, we don't want to put a black boy in jail and they were excused . So for their honesty, apparently , but it's I think I guess what I'm worried about is in all these issues are sort of colliding like a perfect storm and it's getting to a point where the sinner's just not holding anymore . The whole tribalism came to its ultim ate fruition . It was okay as long as everybody was on the same page for most people and you had the Black Panthers here or La Razza there or someone Some crazy white supremacists there, but when you get everybody reverting to tribal affinities and you fuel it , jet power it with this internet and social media . And then it gets mainstreamed into politics. Man, it's it's very divisive and it's not going to work. It doesn't work in Indonesia, it doesn't work in Brazil, it doesn't work in India. I'm talking about democracies of large countries , a hundred million up that have strong minorities, majorities, tribals whose first allegiance is to their particular religion or their tribe or their first cousin . And they don't that's why they don't work . And I say that because when people in India want to come here . in P Beraoplezil want to come here. People from Indonesia want to come here . I don't see a big group of Americans of any tribe that want to go to India or Brazil or Indonesia, I'm sorry. And the reason is it's a merocratic society . And yeah, and most of them probably stink relatively to everything everyday life, right? You can really see with Elon Musk, I've talked about Hiziad's concept of good and bad envy, but he was when this IPO came out of near a trillion dollars, there was two reactions to it . Most people on the Conservative or Ledgers were admired him for what he did to the country. And if he didn't have that amount of capital, we wouldn't have had the best rockets in the world, the most satellites in the world and be ahead in the space race . And then there was the left and that was do you get so much money? This is terrible. He's horrible . And of course, he's a racist. That has to always be thrown in . But if you think about it , this country attracts people like that because they since it's a meritocracy and there's not a government person who's going to call them up on the phone and say , Okay , here's a concession, but I want thirty percent or they're not all going to be brought into a room like Joe Brat Biden tried according to many of the Silicon. I think Mark Andreesen had a good interview when he detailed the atmosphere when okay, here's AI and you're going to do this and you're going to do this and there's not that. We don't pick winners and losers . So imagine if he had stayed in South Africa, what would have happened? Nothing would have happened. Nothing. He wouldn't have he wouldn't we wouldn't have had SpaceX and they wouldn't either . And now we have it and it launches more it launches half of the satellites in the world. We have more satellites by SpaceX than all of Europe put together . And if you look at Europe twenty five years ago when it was just starting to get radically socialist, but they still and the borders were still secure and immigration was about three to five percent of the population. It was not that far behind us . And now it has no space industry, it has no def ense industry. It has no defenses . It has no space exploration . It just canceled its urofighter. Can't even do that . And it's got a big war in its borders and they're paranoid because they've so caricatured the United States and they've so relied on us to defend them so they can experiment with this socialism that it's costly and that they're worried that they can't defend themselves from anybody . So this is a very unique country and when people come here , we are we benefit from legal m ajrotity, but we do not want people to come here and say the first thing they say is how do I gain the system ? How much are you going to give me? And this is a blank, blank country and I wish it's not as nice as I'm quoting almost Ilana Olmar, literally. Yeah . We want immigrants who are going to steal and marry their siblings and send money back to Somali, but we don't want immigrants who are going to create space . Yeah. I just don't think that's going to work , Representative Omar. I don't think you come over here as a young child and your family has been involved with a genocidal dictator and your father was a colonel in his army and many of the people who accompanied you came to the United States because they would have been butchered for being on the losing side of a genocidal war and you get over here and then you marry allegedly your brother to get him over here and violate our laws . And then you're given generous scholarships to get a education free . And then you plug into DEI and get all sorts of scholarships from a magnanimous host, and then you're elected to Congress and the first thing you start to do is spout , I don't know, something happened, Jack on nine hundred e andleven. She said that. And then the anti Semitis of Benjamin's baby . And then you start , you know, your sister's involved and you start you or the protector of a nine billion dollars fraud against the country who welcomed you in. There's no gratitude . And we're supposed to say , Oh , well, you're a poor refugee. You qualify for DEI, we're not going to say anything 'cause you would call us right. I think that day's over. I don't think people care anymore about what you call a person. They're just going to be empirical . She's been a net minus when she came to this country. She's produced nothing but animus and divisiveness and fraud . She's been either a complicit with fraud or she's been a force multiplier of it by, her indifference to or her active shielding of it. And that's not talking about her own personal involvement in trying to warp immigration law for her brother . Yeah . I know it's kind of related to Brand Is it Brandon Gill? Is he this? Yes, he's this Texas up and coming young Republican. Yeah, he had something on X about we've seen this data before something like this. It's like eighty it's al,most like ninety percent of the Somali community worldwide is on yeah, they're the leading welfare recipients of whatever country I think the Netherlands, Sweden ? Yeah's, all the it same . It doesn't go away after they've been here a few years. They maintain. The funny thing about all this, it's not funny, but Europe has no history of multiracial equality like we do . You know, they didn't have a civil rights movement. They didn't have a large minority population and they're new to this game and they inherited DEI from us and they went whole hog with it and they let in up to fifteen to twenty percent of some of these populations now have people from the Islamic world and North Africa, etc . And they're not used to it and they',re not going to react in a way that you would think that liberal, sober and judicious, utopian Europeans react . They've got the Catholics and the Protestants together they had Ireland did you see the clip from the priest who gave that inspirational ? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. He said, whatever differences we had in the past were Irish were the indigenous Irish people. Amen. And it's funny how they'd use that word, isn't it? They a've t leftak wening word and we're not going to be called Wendigenous people are not going to be colonized by foreigners . Well, we're all Palestinians now, I guess, huh? We've come about to the end. 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