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Stop it Hello one and all and welcome to this your weekly dollop of middling advice brought you courtesy of me Graham Norton and Maria McCurlin. Maria McCalling is sitting here opposite you. We're both very colorful today and we're wanginging on. We are wang on what we're doing. Wang on. Now, you know the way we were the last people on Earth to have a podcast. Yes Have you used AI yet? I did the other day. Did you really? Yeah, yeah. Because I assumed you'd go AI Yes, I did the other day because somebody was telling me that sound so old . No, listen, somebody was telling me that they have used sort of AI as their boyfriend . Oh . I mean, obviously not in any physical way because that would be impossible, Graham. Only as we talk, by tomorrow, someone of soon. Yeah. Indeed , but just to sort of discuss things with you. You know, sometimes living alone is quite hard when you've got things to kind of mull over and you want somebody's advice and everything isn't that what a dog's for? Isn't that what friends are for? More importantly. But anyway, she's using and now and she said I turned to him she's got a male voice for everything now and I went, I think this is a slippery slope. I've got some stats. Oh yeah, okay. Almost half adults have used AI to choose gifts for their partner. Tragic and sad. Isn't that amazing? How hard can it be to have an imagination? I am thinking that's quite a good idea because it's very hard to think of gifts . But what about you asking them? What about it saying what do you walk for your birthday? No, but presumably also AI will just go he likes golf, perhaps get him some, you know, golfing socks. You know, it'll be that sort of gift. It will be a really clever thing. True about Jonah anyway. Thank you for any golfing socks . Well, he might take up golfing if I get some golfing socks. But yes, I just think it's you are uninspired to ask AI for a gift idea and the gift idea will also be uninspired. Yeah, I'm guessing. I don't know. I've noticed. The problem with AI it has to be fed into it in the first place and it's incredibly clever and perceptive and all of those things, but it still doesn't know your deepest darkest thoughts. Well, I've discovered this thing now on Facebook. Somebody sent me a thing about that I was donating a million euros to build a dog shelter in West Cork. And it's like, you know, my house has other things in it , other than dogs . But a million pounds. And I looked at it and I was like, there was a picture of me and some dogs, but there was something off about my face. I was like, oh, that's AI . Anyway, I clicked on the thing and it's this page and it's just endless stories about that are all AI, but with hundreds of comments on them from real people. But it's all made up, people. It's all made up. But what's weird about is I haven't killed anyone or anything. It's all kind of, you know, I did the nice thing with the dog shelter . What else did I do? Oh I did something else lovely . Then I adopted a child ren. I've died a few times. I saw that. I didn't see that one. My mother's a lovely picture in the death pen. Yeah. I was very smooth. Very smooth. My mother died a couple of times. John was being ill, he was in a car crash. You know, and it's and it's all it's obvious to get people to stay on this click and to comment and to spend time there. People do comment. But I don't know how people make money out of it. And also then somebody said, Oh, although it is sort of AI , AI won't generate that by itself . Like someone is doing that. Sorry . I thought it would be funny. I've got a pan And listen, that's me, Graham Norton , you know, dude. Like, imagine if you're George Clooney or Meryl Streep or something. I mean, they must have so much of it. Yeah. Here's a really sad one. One in five people use AI to write birthday cards. How hard can that be? I mean, even I could do that. Happy birthday. Hope it's a good one. Am I AI now? No, but probably the AI says, Happy Birthday. You may wish to play golf on your birthday. Here's your nearest courses . You may wish to go to an archery class. Yes . Wishing you a peaceful and happy day and a successful year ahead. I mean, it must be something rubbish like that. The thing is, if you want to write more than have a good one , then it is my brain stops then too because actually I don't know what to say to you. But you don't want to read, you know, if somebody writes a lot in your birthday card, you immediately go, uh , like I've got time to read this . Don't you know how old I am ? I just needed Have a good one. I like that. Have I got time to read this card from somebody I don't know or care about it. I'm sixty three. I think people use them a lot to write best man's speeches and alike. Oh , but then surely they're all kind of the same best man's speech. They will end up being the same. They have to end up being the same. I would like it to do something like the hoovering , you see . I know. Like that computer hoover. Have you got one of those? We bought one. But I mean here's one of those things. So they started selling them and they're terrible and you thought, Oh, they'll get better. No , no, they still can't understand what a table leg is. You know, it's just like a bunting. Yeah, bunk . There's a very you should put that in your stand up size. Oh tight ten minutes about computer hoovers or because also you could include the garden cutters. Now, haven't it that one does look quite good. Does it happen ? No, I've heard because where does the grass go? Because it's quite small. So you have to do you have to empty it. But is there an AI rake? No, I think what they do . I think what they do is when they get full break. When they when they get full, those little robots that come across, they kind of just go over here and then they vomit the grass out of their bottom and then they carry on. 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Since moving into my own home two years ago, I've developed a huge interest in interiors and making my home beautiful. Great and unique to me . However, my sister keeps sourcing the exact same piece of furniture for her home. The last time her husband visited, he remarked Ho , you have the exact same record player as us and it frustrated me because she got theirs after seeing mine. Recently I've transformed the tiniest room in my house into a nursery for my newborn. It has been a labour of love and I've poured my heart and money into making it beautiful. It's so small that aside from the cotton it only fits two other pieces of furniture a children's bookcase and a shelving unit. Weeks ago my sister told me that she got the exact same bookcase for her nursery and recently she casually mentioned that she was driving to pick up the exact same shelving unit at a fraction of the price that I had paid ironically she knows I don't love it when she copies me but she thinks it's ridiculous that I care about our homes looking increasingly similar . Am I within my right to be peeved or are my feelings of frustration indeed ridiculous? And that's from Kiara C I A R A. Kiara? Kiara Kiara Kiara, I mean flattery is what is it? Oscar Wilde said, It's the something . What did he say? Stupid Oscar Wilde. I think Kiara, there's a limit to this. Once she's covered everything in your house , it's finished. How many pieces of furniture are you going to buy? The thing is when Kiara says, you know, am I within my rights to be peeved or am I feeling frustrated in duper ous? I think both. Yeah , I think it's both. The only way to get round this because actually it is so annoying. It's so it must be oh just drive you crazy you. some Ishow have to just go , I'm choosing not to be annoyed by this. Let that woman do whatever she likes. She lives over there with her husband and hopefully a child because she's now got a nursery. Yeah that would be weird if she didn't frankly . Oh, we've got the same kennel no dog. No. We've got the same baby . I went to the same place you went to to get your baby. Our babies are ident . So I feel like that's really the only solution because otherwise you do appear to be quite petty and think, you know, obviously there's lots of things Guari you can do to prevent this. You know, you can buy second hand furniture. I was going to say buy things that are slightly more unique and then that avoids her she was going over to pet a cheaper bookcase than yours . But you know, it will be finished at some point. There's only so much furniture you can have in a house and if she's got every single piece then it'll be closed, then it'll be something else, then it'll be I feel like there'll always be something and also in a minute there's going to be two kids in this thing. Yeah. so And they're be gonna the same outfit. Same outfits, same schools, same job. I told her and she thinks that you're being ridiculous finished. She doesn't have the imagination that you have Kyara, so do take it as a compliment that she's having to copy. I mean, there is a reason why people get interior designers to make their house into an interior designer's version of what they think their house should be. You know, I quite like and you do too making, it personal, getting like unique pieces and so on. So go down that route because then she won't be able to copy you. And she can try and then her house could be similar. Like she could use the same col ors and things, but she won't find that rug that you found in and also it's quite fun poking around. If you like interiors and Kiara apparently loves a new interest. Well, she's found a new interest in making her house lovely and unique and it means her sister doesn't have to bother her pretty little head about thinking what to do. She just copies but I think if you do like an interior skar, then poking around you know furniture warehouses or old antiqu e shops and it's really good fun. Online you can do online . I mean, I'm imagining that this is a younger sister who possibly always has you up on a kind of older sister pedestal. So I think you have to kind of suck it up. Again, there are worse things to happen and take it as some form of flattery. And you've told her already that you don't like it, she thinks you're being silly. I'm not sure you can fall out with her over this. It's really not worth it. It is but equally, I totally get Kara that it is going to be hard to get to a place where you fine. You're fine about it , but you do need to get to that place because right now you've allowed it in and it's just eating away with you and you won't be able to enjoy your lovely new nursery because all you'll be able to think about is that she got wild bitch is the hobby. It's cheaper than I did. Yeah. I mean, you can say to her, stop copying me. But I think she kind of has said that. And then she hasn't. And she's just gone, oh what are you like, Kara? I know because I've got it all here . I've told this story before. I'm not sure if I've told it all here on the radio, but when we were in Ireland down the road there was a bungalow and a new family moved in from Canada and said hello to them and that was very good. Now without telling them, this is the weird bit , without telling them , their next door neighbors in Canada bought the house next door in Ireland and moved in . Like that would drive you insane, wouldn't it? Did they like these neighbors in Canada? Not that much . Like it was clearly kind of a weird it was this, it was this. It was I mean, that is like the beginning of a Holland Coburn kind of story, isn't it? Starring James Nesbett? Yes. Where he just and his ever changing hairline . I love James Nesbet, by the way, and it is ever changing area. Yes, yes. But you know what I mean? It's that level of kind of like, oh dear God. Like why did they not let them know? Why didn't they say, Oh by the way? Surprise . Oh, that is spooky. Isn't it terrible? Yeah, yeah. In fact, I'm sure I've seen that Holland Cobin story . I think you've just stolen it from that. If you haven't, you will. Yeah. I remember at the time. I was a child and I knew that's deeply wrong. Well also you knew probably because your mum Rhoda probably said would you believe that Would you believe that? They've only gotten and moved in next door. Yeah. And you mad and it was a very similar house. It was just insane. So I feel that that's where Kiara is. But Kiara , you know, you've just somehow you need to find your way through it. Have the Wangers been in touch about this? Vicki and family say hello, new Wanger here. Hi . Hi, hi, welcome along . He's so sincere, isn't he? Great to have you . Nu Wanger here, and I've involved the family in solving this one, as we all agree, you are right to be annoyed. Top suggestions here are one, put large stickers on all your sister's duplicate furniture saying as seen and copied from my sister's house. Okay . Two, put QR codes on your own furniture that take your sister to a website with a picture of you with your middle finger up . Is it easy to make a QR code? I don't know. It must be. Ask AI. Well, AI would make one for you. Yeah , but yeah, because any tiny restaurant you can do a cubewalker and they'll give you the menu. Yeah, it must be easy. Anyway, so sorry I interrupted Ficki and family new ers. Welcome ers. Or three, sneak into your sister's house and saw through the legs of all her new duplicated furniture just enough so it only collapses when she next puts something on it. You're welcome. Well, Vicki and her family is very nice to hear from you as new wangers , but frankly, your advice is rubbish. Yeah. But you're new. But you're new. You'll learn along the way. As bad as our advice is, you're better than that . Bobby in Michigan. Oh o,h look, here we go.. Oscar Wilde Oscar Wilde's quote about imitation being flattery. I love the word. He doesn't know it. And he was at home with a computer. Like at least Google a fucking thing. Imitation being the best form of flattery. When taken in full context was not a compliment, but rather an expression of one's own lack of originality. I completely understand your frustration. Yes. It's like when friends ask me where I bought a certain clothing item and then the next time I see them, they're wearing the same thing. So now I buy all my clothes when I travel out of the country. Good luck finding them. You really showed them Bobby in Michigan. Bobby, Michigan has a passport isn't afraid to use it . Oh Robin Loving an Oscar Outlet shop Wilds of Michigan . Robin Ingent says, Dear Sister of the C opycat, I'm going to take a guess that this is a younger sister . As the older brother of a younger sister myself, I know how pesky these younger siblings can be in wanting to do everything the way that you do it. But honestly I take it as a compliment. She clearly looks up to you as for some more practical advice, try getting some unique pieces for your home like vintage or second hand furniture, which your sister won't be able to copy. You could also customize some pieces by simply painting them in a coloured mix your sell . Change the hardware, get creative, design your own wallpaper, or even do a full Debbie Travis on the ceiling with a sponge. Travis? I have no idea. Oh Debbie Debbie Travis. Debbie Travis. AI . Who is Debbie Travis? A friend of Oscar Wilde . Debbie Travis is the best form of sealing. Debbie Travis is obviously very big in gentle. Kate says the copycat sister doesn't seem to really know what she herself likes. Why is that? This could be a lifelong sibling dynamic that needs exploring beyond the context of interiors. Oh can of worms here, Kate. Another idea is that she makes some suggestions for the Copycat sister's home interiors that are subtly different from her own. Otherwise it sounds like there is potential to have some nice years together raising their similarly aged kids and enjoying that experience. Kate is trying to make it a nice thing. Well, you know what? If Kira really does like interiors , when she goes around to the sister's house, why doesn't she make suggestions? Like, do you know what it would look really well in here? What would a big mirror that would reflect the light ? Why don't you get the same carpet in here is out there and it'll make the space look bigger? I think that's the thing . Double down on it really, Kiara. I think rather than fighting it, be helpful with it. And then you won't feel quite so peeved because you won't feel like she's stealing your ideas. Maybe their house is exactly the same. No, it's not. Yeah, it's not Maybe. the husband's are brothers Twins . Maybe he's fathered two children, one with Korra. I'm with her sister . Well, maybe the sister came in and stole sperm out of the base. Stop it now. Yeah, that'll be it. That'll be it . Glad we've sorted that one out. Yeah. Oh, he loved that shelving, unit Is that wood glue? Stop it . Great advice for the Wangers, thank you very much. Apologies if you didn't get to your comment, but of course you could always leave one underneath What do you think? 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Whichever you choose, delicious coffee awaits. Find Starbucks Fappuccino drinks wherever you buy your groceries. Just a moment . Wangers rejoice. You can watch us on your TV. Hooray. If you have a smart deli, you can go to YouTube or Spotify and search for Wanging On. Yeah, it's great. You can find our full episodes, all of them. So you can binge them all or you can watch us weekly like a normal person. This is the brave new world of visualized podcasting Maria. I am all over it stream wanging on your smart tele now Maria? Yes, sir. Are there any more envelopes? No. Oh bye . Am I weird at all? Yeah , there's another envelope. All the three? Oh I was resting with your head. Wow, a lot of people were really upset just then . Dear Graham and Maria, I have been in a relationship for two years now and I've never been happier. This is my true love and a man I want to be with forever. I've been struggling as long as I can remember with sleep problems. Been to hospital for it, have medication, etc . It's been quite stable lately, but it's always a work in progress . However, my boyfriend has a tendency to snooze his alarm up to six times in the morning and it's driving me mad. Exclamation mocked. Yes. He has to be at work earlier than me, so he sets his alarm very early , in theory, meaning I get to sleep in and make up for the time that I've laying awake at night. However, listening to his alarm clock every ten minutes, scaring the bejazus out of me, and blocking me from getting my well deserved last hour turns me into a desperate mad monster. I've told him I'm really bothered by it, he claims to not be able to help himself and is simply not capable of getting up right away. Apart from this one floor, he is truly the most perfect, amazing man to me, and I'll love him until we're old together . But how do I tackle this problem without the resolution being that we should sleep in separate rooms until we die. Please, and this is from the Netherlands and it's Laura who has sent this in. Now, Laura, if this is your only gripe about this man , I think you're doing very well. Really? Well, you know, it's not snoring, which is one of those things that most people can't help snoring. This, you can help. He can help. Yeah, but if it is the her only gripe, there are lots of ways. You can get one of them. can You get little earbuds with the alarm clock in your earbuds, can't you? I just feel like Laura, I honestly , how bad have your other boyfriends been that this guy is the kind of your prince charming? Because he doesn't hit the alarm when it goes off. She doesn't just like, oh, I wish I could get a bit more sleep. She has a serious sleeping problem. She's been to hospital. She's got medication . And this guy kind of goes, No, sorry, I can't help myself. Six times. It's ten minutes in between. That's an hour. Well, you're quite exercised by this. It's an hour of hitting the snooze button. Yeah, that is quite lazy. I mean, I'd be hitting something else if I was Laura. I mean, I am. I don't think there's anything bad with separate bedrooms either. Or just different lives. Different boyfriend. No, she loves this boyfriend. You got to find a way around it. But he doesn't love you. Well , he doesn't love you. I guess he does. Hello. She has a serious sleeping problem and this git is hitting the snooze button six times . Like so he set the alarm an hour before he actually needed to get up. I hate him. Oh , wow. I'm so again . Ah , I really are curious because it's such a selfish, horrible thing to do. It is quite selfish. But also, Laura, I mean, there are ways you could exactly be exactly as close as Graham is with him. Say, if you love me, you would sort this out because it is an hour before he needs to get up. Also with the first alarm call , I would get, you know, your best foot give him a massive boot up the backside. So the alarm's gone off and dito for this is when you said you wanted to get up. Yeah, so get up but make him have it in his ears and not in yours. You can get head phones that are noise cancelling, but he can get his alarm sent through ears. It's like he's doing this on purpose. Well, that's what I mean. I feel like, yes, there are lots of practical, technical ways that you solve this problem. You know, you just want him to put your alarm in the room next door, you do all sorts of things . But the other thing he could do is just not do it . You know, just it's so selfish. What does he say? He can't help himself. He can't help himself, so I got to help myself. I think Graham has hitting down on the head. He can. Yeah. He's not capable of getting up right away. What? What? I mean, okay, hit the stoos button once. I'll give you that. It's kind of you. But I mean , even that's pushing it . Because you are now in a relationship with someone who is a sleep issue. It's not like a surprise. It's not like she's suddenly gone, oh by the way, now you've fallen in love with me. Here's the sting of the tail I have, problems sleep . He'll have known this. I think Graham that maybe this is his way of saying I would rather sleep in a separate room. Because other than being profoundly selfish, it feels like he's trying to send her a message of some sort. Like I wanted to stay awake all night and go mad. No, like I would rather be in my own room because she's trying to avoid the problem of separate rooms. Lots of people sleep in separate rooms and for lots of people they say it saves their relationship for snoring and all other things two years . Yeah . It's a long time. No, I think it's early days. That's what I was . Oh , it's a long time to have an alarm going off six times every morning. Yes . That's two years many days. How many hours sleep was she lost? What? That's an hour of day. Yeah. That's an hour of refri.ger Yeahat,or yeah. So she's lost days of her life because of this moron . Yeah. And Laura, I think you're a very nice patient person. The fact that the letter is so restrained and the boyfriend is still in the land of the living . I think it's extraordinary. Shall I see what the Wangers? Yes, the Wangers I knew I was Yes . Ken on the central coast of New South Wales or St,ri Akustesralia. He's really painted a picture there, has he? Yeah, central coast of New York. Oh yes, I get it. Yeah. He says there's an app that's called alarm clock. You can make it so you need to complete a math problem to turn the alarm off. It has helped me for years and if that doesn't work, take matters into your own hands when his alarm goes off, push him out of bed or nag him until he gets up. He will soon get the picture. I do think violence might be the answer to this. And you can do it in your sleep. So you go, I was just dream ing that someone was attacking me. I was dream ing that was I was dreaming a selfish twat . Jason in Pimlico says By your partner a daylight alarm clock widely available for about thirty five pounds. Thank you, Jason. It's sticking to now to Amazon . It simulates a daylight to wake you without noise. Then buy yourself an eye mask so the light doesn't wake you. See again, all these answers are for Laura to be doing, to be proactive rather than you know yes. And I have to say that one does sound good, but you know what? It won't be enough for him. I feel there'll be another thing won't I feel like he doesn't want to solve this problem. Should we go and visit her in your house? Well, we should do an intervention. I think so. We've got a voice note, by the way. From Flor k Okay, so I think there's two options here that could work. The first one is just sort of get over it and get some of plugs because if this is if everything's great other than this is a minor thing or get him a smartwatch that vibrates with his alarm and then that will have a no sound effect for you. Hopefully you stay asleep, but the vibration means he'll wake up and then he can snooze that as many times as he wants. Now Flora is someone who doesn't have any problems sleeping . Yeah , because Flur thinks this is a minor problem. Well, also vibration is going to wake you up, I think, Laura . If it's big enough to wake him up, it'll be big enough to wake you up because I think this has now become such a thing for Laur a that any kind of minor . And also the thing in the bed will then be vibrating for an hour every ten minutes. The thing in the bed. He was a git, now he's a thing in the bed. Murray says, What happened to give and take? Yeah, very , what did? I'm thinking that he may not share the same level of devotion as he appears unable to hit the hay earlier so she can get her sleep time. Other than sleeping in separate rooms, I think the long term relationship is at risk if they can't figure this out and compromise. I've talked this over with my dog Chester and he agrees. If she can't get this worked out, hit the chicken switch and bail out now. I haven't heard that before the chicken switch. No, I haven't. But I think he probably got that from Chester . Chester's constantly begging please hit the chicken switch . Give me chicken now. Yeah, I've seen the inside of the fridge. There's chicken in there. Please hit the chicken switch. Laura, thank you so much for getting in touch and hopefully you get a good night's sleep soon. Laura sent her message to Wang at Disney. co. uk and I think she got some pretty good advice from the Wang ers. So if that's the sort of thing you need, you could send your dilemma to that very same email address. That's also where to send your Am I weirds. Do we have one to wrap up the show Morris? We do, Graham, and today 's comes courtesy of Joan in Hong Kong . Really? Yeah, we get around . We really do. Hi Graham and Maria . Sometimes when I can't get into a book, I will read it backwards chapter by chapter . A very Chinese of you . But that is how you read books in Chinese That way the book is revealed in a very different way . It's interesting and helps me concentrate on the words rather than a desire to know what's going on. Am I waiting? Well, presumably you know the ending of the book. The end of the book. Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's that she knows. Yeah. But she read it all over. It's interesting to find out how it began. Is it though? That's like, you know, not enjoying a book very much just. You go get into this book. I'll just see what happens at the end. I do that sometimes. I do that sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes if I can't be bothered with all the goffin in the middle, I'll just get to the end and see what did happen. And then you can go, I'm glad I didn't waste all my time reading that now because the ending was pretty disappointing. Yeah, my mother often does that. She'll read the end of a book to make sure it's worth reading. And then she will still read the book. But then but then she is enjoying the process rather than going with the story, you know 'cause some people say, Don't spoil it for me. Don't tell me what it's like, I read that book. Don't spoil it, don't spoil it . Sometimes the process is enough rather than what actually happened. But I think people often regard reading a book as like watching a television program. Like there's a beginning in the middle and an end and you can't get to one bit. But I like this. I like this from Joan in Hong Kong. I certainly feel with a who done it or something. That is all you want to know is who done it. Yeah. I mean, for Joan, she's then it's a kind of a why did it because she knows who the who is, she just needs to find out why and you know how it began. Yeah, I would quite like to Joan to give me a kind of presei of a book that she's read backwards. Also, I feel like it would work with some books better than others. The Bible It was an apple Got it. Got it. Wow, I didn't see that coming out. No. I thought it was all about my baby, but no, it was an apple. And also, I feel Joan , if you can't get into a book, maybe try another book. Is a book going to be better backwards? Some people are purists. I think you're one of these actually, Graham that if you start a book, you finish it. Whereas I'm very happy to just go. There are so many books that I want to read. I'm happy just to leave this one. It's not meant for me. I often find that a book I'm not enjoying, but I kind of think I'm too far into this book now. I am going to finish it. There'll often be a page or even a paragraph or something way towards the end I think, Oh, I'm glad. I'm glad I read that. I'm glad I saw this. I lived through that scene or you know heard that little bit of wisdom or you know, whatever or just, you know, had that emotion prompted. So it's often worth it . And I wonder , you know, because, you know, you know, you write books, I write books, this isn't how you imagine anyone reading them. But I'm pleased with it as a concept . But you set things up to provoke a certain response. You know , this is going to be moving because you know that in chapter two , you know, she left the baby in the back of the car I'm going to do this now with my next book I'm going to do see if it works both ways. You know, yeah. People say when you're writing you should read it out loud so you can make sure it makes sense. But I'm going to now read it from the end to the beginning. I don't think you're weird, I think you're interesting, Joan in Hong Kong. What about you, Graham? I'm going to say not I mean it is weird, but it's not weird enough to be called weird. So we've had weirder can I say you know what ? You're not wrong. If you'd like to move backwards through the episodes from here , you'll get to the source material . And

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