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From Can You Tell Someone Their Breath Stinks?Mar 16, 2026

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Helping you turn that rhythm? into your soundtrack for a great day. Fuel to start whatever's next Quaker, official sponsor of BeVa World Cup twenty six That always thought it wouldn't be fun to go to the Ocars. And then when I went to the E's I would, No, I must never go to the Oscars. Immogen is our demographic. Oh my God, the vent It doesn't give it a That's our sweet spot right there. How they break your breath at No. They don't. Go on, Gad, stink your head in there It's that time of the week again. Hello and welcome to this dollop of hopefully useful advice from me Graham Norton and in person, Maria McCln. It' say dollopov? No. dollopov. Dollopv. A dollop. Fancy a dollop of this. Yeah I start I mean to get exhausted. Yes, because award season is finally over. Thank goodness. Oh I mean, I didn't get anything myself this year. Me neither, which was a surprise. I know. And have you ever been to the Oscars? Not to the Oscars. No, I have been in a aw cerey, A comedy awward ceremony where myself and Anne Bryson, who once presented A TV program called six thirty somethingomet. She was nominated for a comedy award Who know that's like when they do that to Claudianne Tess Yeah Oh you're the test of the I was test. I was test of the equation. Yeah because anyway, let's not go into it, but it was very still rankles. Given the show was called six hundred thirty something it was a while ago. Who was going on Duno? I had to go to the awards ceremony obviously Ov just to look daggers. Well, no and do that thing that you have to do which is I couldn't be happy r. Yeah ye. Anway, she didn't I really couldn't be happy. Sheid didn't win. She didn't win No, not good. She didn't win and I had to go like that. Oh. It would have rankled more if she'd won. Oh off course. Yeah. So I was greatly relieved. Yeah. What about you? We've been to award shows a few times together. Yes, we have. Yes. You like getting dressed up? You like putting a fancy frock on? I know. I don't go to them anymore since you've beenarried, which is annoying. And he doesn't go to them either. I know doesn' I do. I don't go that anymore. I think you can have enough of them and I do take my hat off to all those Hollywood people that just another dress, another day, another stylist. and you just and also annoys me. The little tiny box in the corner now at all over YouTube and so on of the people commenting on what people are wearing and what they should have a sligh No Ashamed of yourself. And also you always get like who died and made you you know the queen of style? Yeah. likeike what do are you wear? You're just wearing a dark t shirt stuck in a corner of a you know badly shot Instagram video. But there are so many of those. They're influencers, of course, who influence fashion and tell you what you should be wearing, shouldn't be wearing. And I just think, oh, just leave them alone And also award ceremonies now who can wear the tiniest thing That's the Grammys like they like flash. Yeah. whereas the actors tend to dress up a bit. Yeah. ye, you know, classy. Ke it classy. But basically our aw ceremonies are very long and very dull and you don't get nice food and you're always dying to go to the loo. That's my experience. And also never enough to drink No, it is because you kind of think, oh now because and also because often they don't tell you the running order. Yeah. and if you are nominated, you're thinking Do you have time to go to the bar at all? But also certainly at the comedy Awards, they used to give you as much to droink ' as you wanted because they wanted outrage. They wanted Juliia Clarry, you know, finishing his career, basically, which he did for a couple of years. They wanted people fighting. They wanted outrage and a lot of the times they got it. So it was good fun though. Yeah. It really. some great fights.ro brawling. You were not Rison, you bitch I love Anne Bryson. and she is very, very funny. She is very funny Yeah, we love Anne Bryson. veryer good. What else? Well, now, I did go to the Emmys once in America. Yeah. and I felt like because I' always thought it wouldn't be fun to go to the Oscars. And then I went to Emys, I went, No, I must never go to the Oscars. becausecause when I went to the Emys, this thing that I've watched on TV and is so glamorous and lovely When you get there, they're just people in frocks. and you know, and then because they've got big long trains of the dresses and they look at you with daggers if you don't step on If you step on their dress, it wass like, You decided to wear a twenty foot long dress in a very crowded room.. Don't look at me like I'm the mad person for stepping on it. I love you for saying that. But also we did watch it. We went to an Oscars party once if you recall And then we got there, And'. And then he couldn't get the Oscars. He could that's rightice He couldn't get the feast. His wife had cancel the subscription to Sky Arts We were just having to read it online. screaming on Twitter. That was one of my favourite Oscar parties ever where you don't get to watch the Oscars. Yes, it was funny. It was a tense moment Yeah. I think a lot of people left early, didn't they Which was good, because I wasn't gonna to stay anyway because it goes on so long. It goes on so long. Now this podcast Yes, Yet to win any award. How can that be? do you think today might change that? I have so many dresses waiting in my wardrobe Oh, and can we give a shout out to loveoly Lather Whisket? Oh my loveoly Lather whiskuet was a purchase when I was nineteen, which is obviously in the nineteen hundreds. That was before you knew Anne Bryson Yes And it came from Liberties of London and it was really expensive. So I've never thrown it away. and now I'm thinking, even though you know, this is a bit dating, obviously might be back in fashion. who knows? It has been over the period. Yeah. There's been many periods. And then this is Bambi and Bambi and mother. Did you didid you cry at Bambi? I I't think' ever seen Bambi. Don't be ridiculous No one never seen it. In Ireland, they didn't haveilms though, did they? No, we'd no films. We just had cave drawings to enjoy. You just watch the mud coming up of you every time it rained. Up against the window. lookook, Mommby. more mud today. Shall I measure it Yeah, that was me as a child. We'll have a dilemma in just a moment Hey, it's Kelly Rowland. You may not know this, but I have eczema. so I get how it can steal your time. But why let eczema take over when you can talk to your doctor about EBLlS? 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Pning on dining alfresco or relaxing poolside Wayfair has everything you need to prep your space. Shop now and save up to seventy percent off during Wayfair's Fourth of July clearance. sccore huge deals on outdoor furniture, area rugs, and more. We're talking thousands of products for every style and budget. Plus, surprise Flash deals July sixth. Don't wait. Shop Wayfare's Fourth of July clearance now through july sixth at wayfare dot com d ay fair, every style, every home Right, Maria. do you have letter number one, please? I do. I do.raw. Okay, D Graham and Maria I love the pod and hope you can help. See I knew I knew I was gonna to enjoy this t. Yeah Hope you win an award. My boyfriend's breath stinks I'm pretty sure he brushes his teeth twice a day and his general hygiene is good. But it doesn't just smell after meals or in the morning. And I've noticed it's not just when I sat opposite him either. For example, recently in the cinema I got a whiff of it every time he laughed. We've been together for almost a year now, but I can't help but think this is getting worse. I'm starting to feel reluctant about kissing him, which makes me feel terribly guilty But I don't know how on earth I raise this with him help Oh, I mean, it is that L I think in an In a relationship, you should be able to bring up these things I. But a year is you know, it's still quite new Yeah and there's probably a bit of best behavior and they're not that relaxable. I want Grace to tell us though if you know, presumably when she first went out with him because that's obviously the biggest turno when you go, Oh yeah, chemistry is good. Kase get's o no, can't do that. So has it just recently started or has it always been the case? I mean In which case, you've kind of missed out here by you could have told him at some point. What's going on? I thought it was your foot, but it's a little Raffy. How long do you think my legs are? I know that Raffy. I'm notable. Come here, hereere you go. Oh look there he is. Now I'm knocked out.. Look in your lovely jumper, Oh you I'm talking of bad breath. very No,aderrible Oh, you've noticed that already. I have. It stinks. I don't what should I do? Can you tell him? Yeah. Rafy, have you seen a dental hygienist? He goes and has his teeth sonically done. I think it's a small dog thing, but you're not the first person to comment on it I'm embarrassed. I wasn't going to comment it. you brought it up. Yeah, was all right. Well I brought up in context of thisf course it's what we're talking about. but it is true We have an example right here. We do. Yes, example exhibit A, Ry, you are exhibit A. Yeah. exxhibit A No, I would say and we've often talked on this. I don't know why we've often talked, but we have often talked about dental hygienist. Yeah. Would we just talk about that in our own personal lifeves? No, I don't think so. We've mentioned it on here before, I think. But anyway, certainly I mean, you can't give someone you know a gift of twelve dental hygienist sessions, but you sort of feel like You know, he needs to go to a dentali. But I think that this is something more because she's seen him clean his teeth, she knows what he's doing. She probably knows when he's flossing or whatever I think it's something more. There's a thing called GERD, which is gastro in somebody will look it up in a minute. and it's to do with what's in your lungs or what's in your stomach. It's like a are you listening? It is like a postnasal drp. thing that happens which can cause bad breath. I'm carrying on even I'missing. And sinus troubles and various things And they are often overlooked because people think it's just about here Yeah. But it's about, you know what's going on in your esophagus, what's going on in your lungs, what's going in your stomach. Some people have you know, acid reflux, which which causes that too. So sinus says acid reflux, it could be one of those things. I would say get him checked out. And then in a way you can say, think This is what's causing this is not your teeth.. But I would start with teeth. Okay. You know, before you go for the lungs of the stomach, because it could be, you know, he could have gaps in his teeth where food's getting stuck and rothing. and he's not cleaning. So you could get him some of those interdental states. St brushes. But also she could book into b an appointment with a hygienist and then do a sneaky, sorry, this is sneaky ring up the hygienist and say, please can you help? He's got really bad breath. I want to make sure it's not the teeth before we investigate anything further. So you kind of pre wararn the hygienist. m But if you canven't mention to him that he's got bad breath, if you're not in that place thenen how the hell do you book a dental hygienist appointment? Well you say I'm booking one for myself. So I'll book one for you while I'm there. And we go out for lunch afterwards Yes. we can go out for garlic afterwards. Yeah. ' something's got to cover that for smell that comes out of your mouth. I think that you know there are ways of dressing these things up and there are sneaky ways of doing things. But I don't know what to do about my dogs, which is more important than grace, obviously It's not that bad. His No. It's terrible. Well it's but it's a dog I know, but you a guy' such a cute dog. Oh your. He won't win at crafts. notot that he'd win anyway, or that Id put him in. Do they Do they rate your breath at Nos? They don't. Oh glad to stick your head in there Judges just failed on this. Oh, and it's failed on the breath test It is very hard to tell Pamotner's, you know like under armed smell but if you live with him and you see what he's doing with his teeth and I'm sure the rest of his hygiene is perfectly fine. She rates the rest of his hygiene. But I think really, when you're at a cinema and somebody's going, a and still you're going, wa, breathwave. Yeah, that's something dying inside. That is something I think that is more not serious, but it's a different area to the teeth. And what do you I mean, sorry, I shouldn't ask you this, but you may not know Is it just that you takes pills and it gets rid of the lg, the gerd thing? Yeah, you can have sprays and so on and it may need antibiotics. if you've got some sort of infection in your sinuses, but something is going on that I think is possibly bigger than the teeth and the mouth. So GD is gastroesophagal reflux disease. I know it's quite hard to say, but Has he got it? I'm sting to his ass. Well, you' this end. you'll feel it coming out if it is Oh, Raffy. Do you like his jumper? I love his jumper. Listen,. I think we've given some actual some, you know, you've obviously done some research, well done you So let's find out what the Wangers feel. Okay, Vicky says, This is an awful situation to be in. You obviously don't want to hurt your boyfriend's feelings. It may be that although he brushes his teeth he might not floss at all or often enough. That's right. You did. I would bring up the subject of how you're thinking of buying a water floss and ask him if he's seen them before. hisis answer will hopefully give you an opening to discuss his oral hygiene Good, good advice. No, can I just say, Have you ever had a waterfall bought one in my head because I use those interpres ent I those to st. And so I thought and I thought and it's suchort a waste having to buy them all the time And I just thought, whatver I get a water flosser and I'll put it in my b and it'll just be cute And it'll be amazing. And I bought one and it just is kind of like a Oh just it's just some water in your mouth. It's not what you I thought it was got to be like power washing. Yeah I would jet wash for this thing. So when you see people doing that with their patios, you thought that would be in your mouth. That would be Your head would be destroyed. Yeah. Well, but I would at least get rid of everything that's in there. and your teeth and my teeth. But no, not like that. I would say stick with the sticks rather than the water thing Yeah. Re, the Salop boy, whatever that means. Dear Graham and the gorgeous Maria. Oh Re. You could buy an old World War twoI gas mask. I reckon he'd get the message pretty quick. However, in all seriousness, this may actually be a sign of an underlying health issue. So if you love him, then you need to pluck up your courage and tell him, What's the worst that can happen He pins you down and breathes on you. Very good. Thank you, Reg. But I do think that's true. I do think you know find out, is he having trouble with his sinuses? Is he feeling reflux? Is he getting indigestional all of those questions you can ask him. You know what the other thing is, Grace, this is kind of the first test of your relationship You're with him a year, you like him, but apparently Yeah. So if you can't get past this, if he if he react so badly to this news, then this relationship was not meant to be because actually he should be able to take out someone who well for who cares about it. should if he believes he it's a deal breakup. Yeah, I would say, because Who does he think Grace is? You know, is Grace just this horrible woman is trying to make him feel bad. Yeah. No, she's someone who cares about you and is worried about you. Good. Yeah. Jenny in Newcastle leave him I spoke too soon. A lifetime is a long time to spend with someone who disgusts you. Well, that's fairly categorical journey in Newcastle. But there are ways, I think, before we get to that, before we get to that red flag. Hary I'm believing you, you disgusted me Out of nowhere. It's you, not me Hillary says best just to tell him in a shit sandwich. Pray Eing them? Yeah. That'll do. won't it?' give that will. Wh. What is that? What have you been eating? Praise him, then criticise, then praise. decelare your love and then reassure him with a passionate kiss after he takes a dose of mouth wasash. I feel sick. Yeah, that's not good. Nicola in Derbyshire she says You know Derbyrict. I have found that kissing is the best time to bring it up. Say something like haveave you brushed your teeth today? and if he says yes, just ate politely, that you've noticed recently even after brushing there's a bit of a smell. Then suggest he book in a hygienist appointment Do not mention it in a fight or if he's a bit vulnerable. No matter how tough they seem, it can break them, but don't choose being nice over being kind. If you love and respect him, then you should say something Hope it works out Well, no, I think that she does have look in the end, there's, you know, there's all the subtle thing you do, but in the end, if you are going to be with this person, this is a pretty basic conversation to have. Yeah. so you should be able to have it. And he should be able to take it. Yeah. And if he can't, well. Anyway, Grace, hopefully, we've given you some options there, but you could always scroll down below this on Spotify or YouTube and see if there's any extra advice in the comments below. Maria, we' the problem in but a moment. Got a Sam's cafe pizz order up M. You know the best part about this spicy Italian sausage I voted for this topic. Yeah, just another perk of being a member. Come join us. Sam's Club. I get so many headaches every month. It could be chronic migraine, fifteen or more headache days a month, each lasting four hours or more. 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This is the brave new world of visualized podcasting, Maria all over it, stream wanging on on your smart telly. now We let' spoil our audience with another dilemma. Are you excited about this one too? Ish Not so much You peeaked early Day Ram and Maria, my partner and I have been together for many years and we have my friends and we have His friends. I am friends with his friends and he is friends with my friends. No issues there. This children. Janet's friend with John friend No issues there. The issue is when we combine these two groups. When we have hosted parties in the past, both sets of friends then often separate themselves into their own groups and very little mingling happens. My friends are quite outgoing and have often told me that here's friends are not very welcoming and don't make an effort to talk to them I thought that this was a bit over the top until I saw it for myself with my own eyes. At our last party, I introduced one of my good friends and her boyfriend to two people in my boyfriend's friendship group. It was incredibly awkward. They didn't ask any questions and continued having their own conversation and leaving my friends out. While I don't expect them to be bosom buddies, I do expect them who at least try and talk to each other as they have the mutual connection of being friends with us. Is there anything I can do or should I just let it go? And that's from Veronica Do't hear many Veronicas these days? Joe, Vonica Mars. It's a nice name th Veronica. Well, Veronica. I think. You say when we host parties, I think you have to step away from the hosting of the parties and you have to invite certain little groups of his friends and your friends smaller to different sorts of events, maybe go bowling Or something where there's chat. peopleeople are invariably quite shy and will always gravitate back to who and what they know. So I think when you're at a big party and that's his friends and that's my, they're going to stay on opposite sides But if they know each other from something else, something else we've done, you go for T cinema night or go on a walk on a Sunday morning in the pub, So you integrate little sections of these friends of his with yours And then when there is a big party, it's not like everyone's coming at it cold. They know the person from hiking or they know the person from the cinema or bowling. It's a really difficult one because the only common denominator is you and your partner over anything. the thing I struggle with, why does it matter Because who cares if they're friends with each other? You're friends with them, Veronica, you get on with them, End off. Your party' still a big success because one gang is all told to each other and one gang iss all told each other. Everyone has a nice time and goes home. Well, she wants there to be some sort of crossover, obviously, because if she's thinking in the future, you know, I'd like for them all to get on. What weird is're not making any effort to How much odd is that they've been together for many years And I think as you You know, you stay with someone for a long time. your friendship groups become one friend. Yeah because you have people over for dinner or you meet people in the pub. But that doesn't seem to have happened. It's odd that. It is quite I know she's blaming his friends. Yeah, but it has to be her friends too. But also don't ever say, o, you know, have you met blah blah, blah. It's like people just go, Oh, yeah, hi and then carry on with their conversations. You've got to You've got to work to integrate people. Oh you twwister, that kind of thing. Yeah, no, not twwister. But you know common denominators, o so and so has just been learning French and you've just come back from Paris and bl all of that, whatever, you know, conversational gambits. for Uber C comatada Uber. Aoir. Abanto You've got to work. Yeah I mean, you know that you've got to work to to kind of ne those social groups together. Yeah. I mean, I do think you're right activities are probably the way forward. So you know like yes, like a little hiking weekend or something like that where people have to do things together. And different sets, different sets different sets so that you know there is a crossover. It's not just like a wedding where there's Y family, my family. But I think Veronica, you know You can't just, you know, these aren't dogs or children. You can't just pile them all in a room and we're going to go, Well there you go. I think Have a nice time. You've got to You know, use your human eyes and ears and go, I think they will get on with those ones because, you know, not everyone does get on and not everyone as you said, not everyone has things in common. So you know, use your own sense of judgment as you're putting these groups together. Yeah. But actually also this does cate you know, this falls into the category of That's a problem. Oh, I mean, you don't really have a problem for Vonica. No,' because And if all that fails, I would say don't have any more parties. God, for everyone's sake. They all hate them. They've even called us to tell us. Yeah. Oh if I talk Veronica if I talk to them, I might get invited again. Shall we see? Wangers. Yes. We forgot about the Wangers Rain says doesn't tell us where rain is everywhere at the moment. I think perhaps an improv. An improv game such as one word at a time might help create two teams Create teams of two or three people consisting of friends from his group and her group. The heost of the party gives them each a scenario only when it's their turn and not before, such as how I made dinner or what I did on holiday. Each team has sixty to ninety seconds to tell the story one word at a time in front of the group. Set the timer and off you go. At the end of the game everyone votes for the best story Points or a silly prize can be given to the winning team, but at a party where there's a DJ, I know your face I'm fing illness. You wanted me to carry on with? No, I wanted to know what it was. but can I just say they gave after each gavees the scenario, I think I'm going to feign fainting. I'm just gonna go. You can't do that at a collective party. This has to be one of those smaller kind of gatherings that we talked about if you want to do anything more hot making. Ruth says if this couple are serious about their friends integrating, they should put in the effort and be proactive to facilitate them getting on and perhaps organize some kind of group activity that acts as a good ice brereaker Things like a hike followed by a drink at the parball playing. Yeah, that sounds. Playing Padel. I do that. Maybe not you play, but I'd go for a hike and a drink. Maybe also a home blind wine tasting where you can cover the bottles and turn it into a game to guess the type of wine. That's better than one word at a time, frankly. Yeah. One wine at a time. Yeah. Everyone gets so sloshed. People are usually a lot more friendly after a glass of wine or two. I think that's a good bit of advice, Ruth. Thank you. That's not bad Guy says definitely don't say Hi guys, canan I introduce you to Ben and Sarah to Orcs? Create an in. like, Hey You've been to Japan. Ben and Sarah are going there. I've taken a again, Ben and Sarah. Yeah Yeah. shhut up. Or Guy has another scenario youd like to suggest. Guy says, Do your dog pee on the sofa? Ben and Sarah's does and she's nearly one. I wonder theyre going to Japan What's you doing going out with a one year old Failing all this, I'm sorry, but they're probably just not into them. That's probably true. We've got a voice from Julian in Hamburg. Hamburg. It's Hamburg. So I don't really think friends have to mix. L we all have different people for different parts of our lives and forcing it just makes I guess, I don't know. But if you really want them to, I'd start smaller. Maybe one of your friends, one of his super low pressure Or if you're feeling super brave, do a games night where people have to mix in teams Trture, but nothing bonds people like some mild social torture I think that's true Julian. Yes, They could all bond in their hatred of Veronica and her boyfriend. And then they'd never come to open parties. And then you'll see pictures online of them all at another party together that you're not at. That's really the ultimate, isn't it? Revenge. I liked Julian and where was he? He was in Hamburg. Hamburg. I could detect a South African voiceer there Could you? It was an accent, certainly. Yeah, yeah. Yeah accent'. A accent. That's what I' saying Any moreore for anyore. Imagenant says, L longim listener, first time Wanger. Oh, Hoay, welcome, Wanger. Imagine that your two circles of friends are the circles of a Venn diagram. You and your partner are the thin slither where the circles meet. Kindly, I suggest you move on Thank you. Imogen is our demographic. Oh my Godd, the Vent who doesn't give a shit. That's our sweet spot right there. Yeah, please and welcome immog. Welcome Imagen. We need your world. And more Venn diagrams. Thank you very much. Veronica, thank you very much for that adment. I actually got a really big response justust reminder, we have one email address and one email address only. so if you want to send in a dilemma or join a list of the wangers to give advice, or indeed ask the question, A I weird? Do get in touch. It's wanging on at listen dot co dot uk Wanging on at listen dot co dot Ukot And somebody has used that address to send in this week's amm I weird What is? what is? What is the weird today This comes from Jane in London It weird that my absolute favourite time of the day is going to bed on my own. I can think of nothing more joyful than getting into bed with no one talking to me, asking me anything, and either scrolling on my phone or reading a good book. I have a very busy life, two teenage boys and a younger girl. My husband leaves for work at eight AM and gets home at seven PM. I work from home, which is stressful having to juggle with all the house admin Children had me in ferrying children to clubs, various child dramas, doing ninety percent of the housework and spending my life being asked what is for dinner Itightly mortorish there, isn't it? Well, but also, where's the husband when she goes to bed? Asleep on the sofa, snoring. Oh okay she's locked. Having done a whole bottle of Johny Walker There was nothing for dinner She was in bed right. keep asking her, what's for dinner? Where's the fucking dinner? I mean, she's in bed with a good book again. That is quite a lot that she's having to deal with. I mean So you can say at some point, I don't care what's for dinner. At she dad? Yeah Be she's already said, Look, it's passive aggressive. I do ninety percent of the housework Well, she does. Who does the other ten percent? The children It doesn't get done. That's what it doesn't get done. squaler. Yeah. Squaler, ten percent of squaler. She Title for a book, ten percent of squaler. usese that? For your book, I'm thinking. Yeah Yeah Y shitty book Now we were quite nice before, but now we've been quite horrible. But actually look, the bottom line is I think, you know Jane's very fortunate. Yes, she's got a lot going on in her life, but she really enjoys that moment of solitude. And I think you wouldn't? Well you would. But I ninety percent of the housework. But I think people some people don't enjoy the solitude. Yeah that's true they They'reonely. Yeah That's what we're saying, they're lonely. And she's not. You know, I love it, especially because I live by the seaside when it's raining and you can hear the sea outside

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