The Unusual Diet of Derek

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It'll be ready by Tuesday Wangers rejoice it is time for half an hour of questionable advice and social solutions with myself Grab Norton Coague And what does it say? Coeague and partner, Maria McCurlland. Have you requested them not to say friend anymore? I thought so. especially as you didn't invite me to come and see you Interview the Ceen whose new album it's fabulous. You know, that new alb is because there's always, you know, because I love Madonna, we're talking about Madonna. Andfess confonfessions too. ye. You know you kind of think, Oh, please be good, please be good, please be good. And it's so good. And it's interesting because she is one of those people. I think she's the only legacy artist who's still creating music who is always trying to find the next sound, the new thing, Whereas most legacy artists are quite happy to just the same music over and over again. Although this is part two. Yeah Yeah. somethingomething that she did in what year was In two thousand five Yeah So twenty years ago it with Stue price and stue priceices back. But no, but what I'm saying is that's what's unique about this. She's not that person. You know, you don't listen to the new Coldplay album going, Wow. It doesn't sound like coldplay. You know They've gone all country and Western. It always sounds like cooldplay. You know, often you just do a Madonna album and you're like, what this is Madonna? Yeah. Anyway, this is so good. Really Dancy. Ied to know how many times you have interviewed her? Well, I've interviewed her being filmed Th times and then I did a thing with her at Alexandra Palace. That was a live thing. was a live thing where people had flown in from all over the world. Amazing. Her fanbase is extraordinary. And they just adore her. And I remember Before we got going, the record label gave me a list of questions that I you know could A Spedona, these are the approved questions off you go So it was an hour event talking of a dollar and at the end I was going to be allowed to get two questions from the audience. okay? Just two questions from the audience that was going to be exciting and random. We didn't know where we were going to get So I have my list of questions, I'm chatting to Madonna, I turn on the page, I've come to the last question, and that's taken twenty minutes.. Yeah, we got about fifty questions for the audience. But I'm sure they would deli it. Oh ye. It turned out much better Yeah and also because it became chaotic Be they all the fans, it's so weird. The fans want her to write on them So they won't get a tattoo. Yeah. so they can tattoo the autograph And it was the day The Madam X album came out. and so they were all running forward. and she went No I will only sign you if you've already got a Madame X tattoo And you thought and you thought Oh, like that'll be nobody. Oh no, there was about twenty people who already had a Madamg statue. Yeah. ill there. I mean, I'm slightly against this deification of human beings, you know who sing for a living. but I think maybe in the absence of anything else, we don't have religion anymore. So we have Madonna. And Taylor Sift. Yeah. And also I think there was a time when you know Madonna was doing stuff, particularly for the gay community, you know, in during AIDS and things where you know, it was kind of a dark time and there weren't really that many people to kind of lift us up And Madonna did that. I remember being at the Royal of Vxhall Tavern and seeing, you know this judtery old screen would come down and they'd show that video of her performance at I don't know the VMAs or whatever, where she did the Louis Yeah Mar Antoinette vo. Yeah, yeah, that which was You know, tremendous. tremendous. And also those dancers, the point of those dancers were that they were gay. They weren't kind of just, they didn't happen to be gay. They were so, you know completely overt. and seeing that on a big world stage like that, it felt important. and you know, kids will never understand that. And it felt like an endorsement at the time. It just felt like it felt like visibility was giving her platform her stage to other people. you and hopefully kids never do understand that, but it was a big deal there was. You're absolutely right. I do remember. Now, I mean, you have interviewed her a few times over the years as her career has progressed. and she's still massive. But she's always been, and I'm sure you will agree, a little bit prickly. Do you think she's getting more mellow with age I think so. I mean, what was interesting was is this the first time I've interviewed her without an audience And it did seem easier somehow So maybe she responds to an audience because she's somebody that always likes to kind of She would make a good Madame if she were, you know, in S and M terms because her followers always seem to really lap it up when she's a bit horrible to them. Well, this she was just lovely in this, just really chatty and easy to laugh. Well also very open because I think people, you know the way you know, we often talk about Taylor Swift on here and the way people analyze her songs get to go, o, this one's about such as a boyfriend, or this is about her bf with another pop star d d. Butadonna's songs are really personal But we for some reason, we don't do deep dives. We just gota go, oh, I like this one. I don't like that one. That's all we do. Whereas this album, I think, maybe because it's called confonfessions, is the most overtly personal album. So what is she confessing to? I'm not confessing, but you know there's a beautiful song on the album called Fragile and that's about the death of her brother Christopher. And because the album is kind of sung through. So it's you know, that Stuart Price has done this amazing job production where one song just kind of seamlessly drifts into the next song d. But fragile is the one song that seems really Classic song towards the end of the album. And does she write about her own illness? Because I know when we went to see her at the O two, she talked about her illness and how it was amazing that she'd sort of come back from it. I mean, it's probably kind of folded into that song in a way. that idea of being fragile and you know, she does that thing of opening everything out to be, you know, so yes, it's specific and personal, but then it has a kind of more general thing. But St Pice prodroucer, guy, such a nice man. and before we did the interview with Dononna, we went to his house But and who would have mean we? yeah people. Not you. I I invited not you. And then we not you showed up. And we listened to the album. Actually, we didn't listen to, We listen to a lot of them. And it was, you, it felt so privileged because one we're you know one of the first people in the world to hear this thing. and two, that he was talking us through this was made. So when I was listening the album, I was sitting on the sofa where Madonna had been sat recording the album. The microphone she'd used was there, and it's the same microphone she used as for confonfessions one W he dug it out of storage and she said, But like But what's weird is the tracks, all the vocals on the album, I think almost all of them are like demos. They're the first She just did them once. Wow. And you know, some of them are complicated Lyrics. Are you a friend of Madonna now She said I was Yeah, there was some point where somebody said something about I don't know Somebody says, I'm a big friend, and then she went, Well, I'm your friend. Oh, I know. Did you enjoy interviewing her this time? You know it was fun. It was fun because you know, it's a nice time to meet in her because I think she is really thrilled to the reaction to this record and she knows it's G, you know, she knows it's really good. I mean, I'm really pleased because She gets such a lot of stick. Well like, but you know, she is give the stick to Mick Jagger and all those other eighty something year old men never get any stick. But now she's back on, you know, the radio one playlist and fast. which is that is, you know, whenever about having hits, that's the biggest achievement of all that youth radio is paying attention to this woman and going, this music is you know, should be played, should be listened to. But she reached iconic status sort of a long time ago and she's remained there. Well, listen, let's have a dance party later with confonfessions two. It is Say dancing upon you. That's confonfessions one. I know. Yeah both on you. I'll go into confonfessions two after this letter But first a break Evening by his remorse Buy a new car I'll be booo Let's get started. Sorry, I think there's been a mistake. I bought it from Carvana. You what? Yeah, great price. I even' have seven days to love it or return it. So there's no No, no buyer's remorse. More like buyers' rejoice I guess I'll let myself out. Congratulations. I mean it. Buyers rejoice. Buy your car today on Carbana. Limitations exlusions may apply Sior sevay return policy, cararbana d Your summer weekends fill up fast, but Crocs has your back. Road trips, beach days, last minute getaways, whatever's on the agenda, swing by your local store and find your new goat too Try it, style it, make it yours. becausecause the right pair doesn't just show up It shows off Wock out ready for whatever's next. Visit your nearest crox store today Timetis time. Mia our first letter please Dar Graam and Maria I am a woman in my twenties. I wrote this. You're right. I am a woman in my twenties who has recently started therapy to deal with experiencing Overwhelming emotions day to day I's been in therapy for about four months now with a male therapist We get on really well where similarly slightly awkward people have the same sense of humour and manage to have a real laugh in our sessions The issue is I'm becoming obsessed with him, and I'm worried this is going to get in the way of my relationship with my boyfriend From the first session with my therapist, I thought he was really good looking. And while I didn't initially think it was an issue to find another man attractive, I'm worried it's going beyond that I'm constantly thinking about him and what to bring to our sessions. I feel like my weeks revolve around it. and after our sessions, I replay everything that he's said. I'm a massive daydreamer anyway and find comfort in this. But I've started to worry that my newfound happiness in life is coming from thinking about my therapist and not the actual sessions. I love my partner, but I'm starting to feel like a terrible person for thinking about another man all the time. And I'm worried he'll realise I'm having these thoughts. My therapist has been totally professional throughout and hasn't given me any reason for these thoughts. Everything I've read online has toald me to bring these thoughts to therapy But I'm worried I'll make things weird and I don't want to ruin a good therapeutic relationship that we already have. But maybe it's worth it to stop feeling like I'm somehow betraying my partner. And that is from anonymous. Oh, anonymous, I kind of feel your pain, but this is so common ye reallyally common because what's happening is you're having an intimate, not a sexual intimacy, but an intimate and emotional intimacy with your therapist. And of course, especially if you're feeling kind of a little bit crazy anyway, you're clinging on to somebody who's talking sense to you. and that's very appealing and very enticing and you won't be the first person to fall in love with their therapist and you won't be the last. But I think what you have to do is what you've said, you've looked it up. You have to take it to your therapist and he will explain it. You don't want to get rid of him. You don't want to find someone else because you have a good relationship But you have to understand the reasons for you falling for him. and that this will never be reciprocated. find a way to go forward. I mean, it's so sad because you know that thing she says about I don't want to ruin the good therapeutic se No, you'll make it a good therapeutic relationship if you sort this out. because right now it's getting in the way of the therapy. And what you're doing is performing for this therapist because you want him to laugh, you want to have a lovely chat together. This is no good for you. You're paying for something that you don't want to do. Go and work as a stand up comic if you want that What you need to do is tell him your innermost thoughts and feelings. It's your money, don't waste it and keep it real. There's also something about I don't know, it kind of reflects on her relationship in a way if she finds the idea of a man who's willing to listen to her for an hour this attractive. You're paying him? But no, but it suggests that boyfriend does not do this. Well, it suggests that she doesn't share her innermost thoughts and fears and worries with her boyfriend. No, but it's also about attention Like someone is paying attention to her fully is focused on her completely for an hour. and that blowing her mind and changing her world. And you know, obviously she's not like I think one you're right, so many people fall in love with their therapists. But I remember when I started up it doesn't happen now, but when I started on tey and I would sometimes go to photo shoots and do photo shoots I would weirdly find the photographherers attractive becausecause they were paying attention to me. Oh wow. You know, like they were really looking at, they were kind of seeing you and paying attention, Oh, move your head slightly to the and do this d d da And it was even the women. Even the women, partarticularly the women. ye. God, it was hot. Yeah. that's sweet 'cause you were on Telly anyway. Yeah. So you had a lot of attention. what's wrong with you?? that's from a whole group, but just one person focus on you like that, there is something attractive about it. And I think in this instance, that's what she's going through is This therapist is focused on her for an hour and she is loving it. And it's clearly not what she's getting from her boyfriend. But she has to remember, Anonymous has to remember that he is not choosing to do this. He's just doing his job. He's doing his job and you are paying him to listen to for an hour And if you bumped into him in the pub and said let's have a drink together, he would say no He should say no. Well, he would say. And here's the thing. I mean I think Anonymous knows what to do. She just doesn't want to do it because it will destroy her fantasy. Exactly. But actually, you need to bite the bullet. And yes, it is going to feel weird, it's good to feel awkward and uncomfortable. but if he's as good a therapist as you say he is He will navigate this, he'll make it on weird, he'll make it fine because he's heard it so many times before. And he'll get you to the other side of this. Yeah. that's the other thing. He will not be surprised by this at all. No. And really, anonymous don't waste your time trying to have fun with this person who you're paying and trying to make him laugh and trying T turnurn it into a relationship because He wants to hear the things that are bothering you and the things that are worrying you and your over emotional state. And this is part of it. So to tell him this would be honest and true and also really necessary. And I think once you tell him and he explains to you this Obsession will kind of decrease, don't you think? It will decrease, but also I do think it's going to reflect back on her relationship. Because I think often when people fall in love with their therapists, it's because they're single. they don't have this emotional outlet in their life, d d, d There's something, I think, as her and the therapist talk about this she may find out what's missing in her relationship with her boyfriend That's what' I don't know. think I does projecting. I don't I think you're right. Yeah. I mean, I feel for her. I really do. Shall we see what the Wang has have? Yes. I mean, it's a very sweet problem. And here's the great thing. You're in therapy. You're in the best place to be dealing with any problem So a huge your therapist. And yes, it is going to spoil your fantasy, but it needs to happen. Yeah. ye. It's just that anonymous. It's just a fantasy.. Now, Jenny from Newcastle says Well, I would usually say get therapy, but that's already backfiring here. Get a new therapist, one that you're not attracted to. a woman or a nice old man, and add this to the pile of things to discuss I hear what you're saying, Jenny, but I don't think that's necessary. I mean too change therapist is kind of like youve got to go back to the beginning again This therapist that you're in love with or think you're in love with or obsessed by, he knows a lot of your stuff. Yes, already So don't waste what's happened already, but do tell him. And also you heal because I think You know, he's been listening to you for a long time now. So yeah, I'm with you. he'll have a shortcut into how to fix this problem. Yeah, who'll probably just kind of open a cupboard and go, I'm just adding you to the list and there'll be know, Anita and Barbara and Jeffrey Eileen in New York City says, This sounds like classic transference. That's what I was thinking. Yeah ye. I encourage her to look up this term and discuss it with her therapist. If he handles it appropriately, she can continue working with him. but if he is inappropriate in any way, it's time to find a new therapist. Good luck Transference, the redirection of feelings and desires, especially of those unconsciously retained from childhood towards a new object Such as a therapist. Can I just say also that inappropriate thing? Of you know therapists not being great therapists. I've heard of that quite often as well. I's not go there. I know. We don't want to give her hope. No. And if you're lucky, it might be really unprofessional.. He might say the good new is anonymous. I've been thinking of your. Yeah. I'm not a qualified therapist. I' just a bloke from the street Yeah I was here for the washer dryer Dononna says, I'm not a therapist. That's what he said. I'm not a therapist, but you do have one you can speak to. My advice would be to talk to explain these feelings as soon as you feel able. It sounds like you've developed an excellent rapport and these feelings are important to address openly. If he's a good therapist, he should be able to help you work through them professionally and supportively. And Anne, who is the trauma therapist in Northern Ireland, says It is not uncommon for clients to experience some transference towards their therapist. Many clients are in therapy due to attachment issues. so it makes sense that being the focus of someone's attention at each session leads to misplaced feelings of closeness. If your wanger explains this to the therapist, he will be totally understanding and should explain where these feelings are coming from. It's perfectly okay, no awkwardness to worry about. The insight gained will definitely be worth the courage. A. Anonymous with lots of good advice from this for the Wangers. A lot of people identify this idea of transference. and certainly Anne sounds like she knows what she's talking about. so maybe take that advice. Or of course, seek out more professional advice because as Maria is a pains to point out, we are not experts. 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How do Wangers get these episodes as soon as they drop? Oh well, you see, Grim, you can tap follow on Spotify or subscribe on YouTube or your podcast app of choice. Totally free. Plus on Spotify, you can tap the little bell icon And then you get notified when a new episode drops. They really have thought of everything. What a world, Maria. That's every Monday, by the way. Leteter number two approaching. On the Problem Express. I liked letter number one. It was very sweet. And also we want to go into therapy I'm a professional therapist.. Day Gram and Maria We have a successful picture framing business in West London, which has been going for over a decade. We are an all lady team and are all of a certain age It's going swimmingly, but we have a problem with gentleman customers. They have a tendency to mansplame, which is frustrating given that they know nothing about picture framing This is just a simple job and shouldn't take long, they say M If you cut it carefully, you could use the off cut for another job Hm And I'd clamp that overnight if I were you. Occasionally they even draw a diagram explaining how we should run our business Our question is how to stop this flow of unwanted advice? withithout being too rude, we have an annoyant surcharge, but this doesn't go far enough. This is from Annabelle, Lucy, Nick, and Lisa. I think what you do is you put up a big you frame something. Oh's good at that. Yeah yeah And then you say and you put it above where they come in and you say How can we frame this? No mansplaining, please. Oh my goodness. Yeah. But men won't they won't clock that You point to it when they start to say, I think if you just Heres I think did you just do I think though, I know because you're all female d d d I think this is just men. I don't think it's about them being women I think like, so if my car is broken. I would just take to the garage and go, mix it Bken. but I think a lot of men would go in. I thought it might be the d d d. Yeah, I didn't want to open her up because d It could be this,. They just like that shit. They like thinking they know something. So to amuse yourselves, ladies, what I would do is I would let them do their mplaining And then Blind them with science, quuickly take them out of their depth. Is there much science in framing? There will be if they make it up. You know, just kind of like, well, we were going to use a trodliser on it, but of course the three eight will be too thick. good. And then the men will be going, Yeah, yeah, that. yeah. And if they go, I am a framer, that's rubbish. Just go, oh, sorry, I thought you were twat I mean, there's a reason that they're taking their stuff to be framed and not doing it themselves. Yeah. That could be on your poster as well. I'm going to disagree with you there and say it's not to do with being women. It is so to do with being women. I think it's more to do with being men. Yes, but men manplain to women. That's the. man'splain to everyone. I don't think men manplain as much and I've seen this in action. They don't manplain as much to man And I normally if I'm having something done in the house that I can't do myself because you know I like to bodge everything. I get a male friend to come round so that I don't get the painter or decorator or electrician or plumber or whatever doing I'm speaking to a woman acting. Well it' Differe is very different. I get it all the time from people come around to do things They explain to you. Well, they try. I mean, I nod off. I have no interest. I mean, that's the thing. I think they explain it to me because they think I'll be interested because I'm a man. And of course, I have zero interest. Yeah. But I do think man's planing happens a lot. and I kind of feel their pain at the framers because it's really annoying when somebody is telling you how to do your job.. As you say, you've been going for ten years and you must be good at it because you're still going and men are still bringing their stuffing. So you know, no man's planing Please I feel like then you'll have to talk about managementing. I just think because you're all in it together, because it's this female workplace, you know, it'll never stop. So just find ways to amuse yourselves. You know, have a sound effect button when people do it so that all the people at the back know that it's going on. You know there's just ways to make it a fun part of your day Yeah that there's some eating. Oh yeah maybe you should have a button like QI. and if people say the obvious thing, Yes, you can just press the button goingit? And they go, what's that? Oh, this is just the fourteenth person that said that today. Who didn't know what they're talking about I've doubled your prices. I like the idea of actually just saying no man's planing, please. I just feel you have to talk about it. Well, what do you have to say? They know, no man's planing means. So, have you met a man? That wouldll just be green light now. So if they say, When you say manslain, you goak't speak explain man explaining to you And chuck away the key. By mansplaining, I assume you mean Heo. Shall we see? Whatwangers have to say? All right. I like a mansplaining question. Okay, David Brighton says, I think you should all take a deep breath Have a nice cup of tea and stop worrying your pretty little heads about it. O, Dave if I get it. Seriously though, if you're confident enough in your abilities, why should a few pieces of unwanted advice bother you? It's surely all part and parcel of a customer facing business. I'm sure mechanics and builders are told how to do their jobs by meddling customers. I don't think it's particularly specific a female run framing business. Well, you would say that, David Brighton because you're a man. But also David Bright is right is that if once you're dealing with the public then it's everything's annoying. So when you open to framers, people will come in and give you unwanted advice. Yeah. Beth in South Yorkshire says, I don't think this is exclusive to you, your gender or your age. Beth would say that she's a woman. All right, point taken Pchet. We all go to work and are faced with annoying, arrogant, know it alls every day. Whether that be customers or colleagues, if they're keeping you in business, I think you have to suck it up and just slag them off once they're at the door. Oh, I love slagging people off what's out the door. Hey, Kath is in I'm ononland at Fge. Where is she? I'm in Nonand Forge. No, truly. I'm in Ford. Thank you I've got an excellent idea for the ladies doing the framing business with the mansplaning I'm going to suggest they watch Remington Steeel, where she employed Pierers Brosnan to be the pretend face of the business while she was behind the scenes doing all the work I think they should probably get an old grandad type to work behind the counter, just nodding at the men when they come in Takaking the orders and leave them get on with all the crafting That's a good idea. It could be a volunteer. I mean Maybe maybe one of their dads or granddads could come Am An Ford, we're twenty twenty six. We don't need to front a company with a man just to make men feel at ease and stop mansplaying. No no, no.. You' sounding like a rabid feminist now, aren't I? No, the men are relaxed. That's why they're doing all this mansplaining. They feel very comfortable Men walk through the world feeling very comfortable. So that the truth? Yeah truth. Okay, Julie says This might not always be a man's flaining thing, but just an attempt to lower the price. Oh good. didn't. I work for a stone fabrication company Say that again. Stone fabrication can be goald. You fabricate stone. Yeah, I make stones. No, I fabricate stones. That's what meat make. How do you make a stone? Well, you're goald and you go you go back to the beginning of the Bible Don't you just go onto the beach and steal st? Yeah, I fabricated this one. Okay, would you like a bigger one? I can fabricate that later. This is not the problem here. Oh yeah. I work for a stone fabrication company and the amount of times people call all visit asking for offcuts as they consider this will be next to nothing. It's almost as if they are doing us a favour by taking these cumbersome pieces of marble away The answer is sarcasm. Make it fun. See between you lovely ladies who can come up with the most outrageous responses. That's kind of what I said. Yeah yeah, it is. It's a sort of dangerous game though, isn't it? Because actually what you want to say after a while is, oh fuck off. Yeah. Try that. Make a game of it. tellell them to fuck off. We're playing the fuck off game. Say Oh fuck off. It'll be ready by Tuesday. Yes, fuck back again on Tuesday Right back in here I think the fuck off game is very good. It's pleasing, isn't it? Yeah. Shall we play the fuck off game? Yeah. I'm going play it for the rest of the day. Oh my goodness, that has exhausted me. the playing has exhausted me. Ladies, thank you very much for that problem. Lots of advice there for the Wangers and sympathy as well. If you'd like to wade in, you could add comments below this. Do you see how that works? I do and I would like to hear those comments Especially from lamplainers. Oh yes.. This comment What do you mean by comment? in a moment It is time for A I weird cube music Um my weird. I didnn't get it right that time I like to join him. Oh, were you lip syncing? Yeah. For your life Today's Am I Weird, Graham comes to us from Derek in Edinburgh. How are you spoting Derek? D E W R. ICK. Yes, you are weird. Yeah. That's it. Goodbye Am I weird? I have a diet that I know is a bit unusual. But most people who know about it tell me it makes me weird. whereereas I think they're being a bit narrow minded I live alone and eat two meals a day and it's the same meal every time. I fry half a five hundred gram pack of minced beef, then mix in the scrambled egg, some mashed up steamed broccoli, and a handful of porridge oats. I don't add any seasoning, even salt. I also eat a slice of cheese while cooking and have some yogurt for dessert. alci Of course very important Yeah. I never get bored with this diet and have checked that it's nutritionally complete Also, it makes online grocery shopping much simpler. If dog and cat owners aren't weird for giving their pets the same thing for every meal, why should I be weird as opposed to merely unusual for eating a similarly unvaried diet? Ohr, Derek in Edinburgh, Derek with the CK in Edinburgh, I don't think you're weird. I just think you're missing out on an awful lot of taste sensations But he must do alive? He must eat out Does he I mean, you can't have anyone over because no one's got, you know, no one's got to thank you for that. He lives alone. A kind of a patty with some oats in it. I just feel, you know, that of course you've found something you like. Easy to cook. Easy to cook, easy And once I would I' quite like it once he eat. I know I today, but it's the same thing for every man. I mean, it feels to me, Derek, like you're eating because it's eating live instead of living to eat. You're not embracing all the taste sensations that are out there. not I want to know what the rest of your life is like because I think it's probably quite narrow. Is he a gym bunny or something? I wouldn't think so. No that sounds like the sort of thing a gym bro would do that they just have the same thing I' going to have chicken breast with this with broccoli. That's all I'm going to eat. And I just eat the same thing because I know exactly what the nutritional value of it is, blah blah blah. I think you're being kind here. you think it's just big lumps out at Edinburgh I don't think he's a big lum because he doesn't eat anything else apart from this twice a day, and he's checked and it's nutritionally sufficient. And nutritionally sufficient is not the same as enjoying things, of breaking bread with friends and going, o my goodness, taste this. this is amazing. There's a lot of social interaction that goes on around food And there's a reason we go out to eat with people because it's breaking bread with friendans, it's doing all of that. And I think you're denying yourself some of this. I absolutely get that this is what you like and you've decided. But I would say Derek in Maybe once a week Hy a restaurant Y, I think you could eat out. you could meet your friends out and not order something similar to this. I do think though Derek's obviously one of those people, he finds deceiding what to make stressful. You know, some people do No, I get it. Especially when you're cooking for wine, it's so boring.. But he solved that problem. I mean he really hadn't solved that problem by embracing the boredom and repeating the boredom on a daily basis. But no stress you know, he has his, you know, press repeat on the online shopping Yeah and in it comes and cook it, eat it, cook it eat it. I mean, the problem, Derek, And I don't know this ever will be a problem if you meet someone else And suddenly Not he stays in twice a day you or the same meal. If you're cooking for two, then this won't cut it, I'm afraid. Unless you really meet your match. What bond did you love of o Ms and ms Lo of the same meal twice today. It's just I feel haven't never split the five hundred gram pack then. I feel it's kind of not life limiting, it's kind of like pleasure limiting that you're doing. And that's why I'd like to know what the rest of your life is like. Is that pleasure limiting too? Because I feel we get one go at this, one go on the Merryo round And we need to embrace so much of it. to have the best time in the and a multitude of experiences. and I want to kind of take Derek and when we do Edinburgh, maybe we'll take Derek out. Oh Yes. You know what Derek should do? Yeah, Keep a food diary It best seller. Oh my God, Monday. Mint bit of cheese, Mint oats broccoli egg. So I'm going to say Derek, you're not weird, but you're denying yourself unnecessarily a lot of pleasures But if Derek would like to come to our show in Edinburgh, I'd love to talk to him more. I would genuinely like to find out more about this and see if he goes on dates and things. Shall we take him a pie Mce pie knew you knew what I was want to say that. Oh as Derek digs into another helping of fried mince we bid adieu to this episode of Wanging On. It's over You know what's going to happen. Lots of people are going to claim to be Derek. Yeah. It'll be just a stink, a terrible smell of cooked mint in the auditorial. Waiting outside to stage. I have to say that we're not experts, you I' just say Yeah, Derek, an onion Yeah What's wrong with the sauteed onion? A little bit of I don't like onion. I don't like onion. I l them with an onion when I was nine. Great and a little bit of garlic. you get that lazy garlic just put Oh my god, yeah, garlic. Yeah. 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