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Or build memories with savings on top brand power tools so you can tackle projects side by side Gift more and do more together this Father's Day with help from the Home Depot. Exclusive supplies at home peopleper. com slash press match for details. I have exactly one smart outlet and every year around the holidays, the Christmas tree goes in that one and it turns on at a certain hour, turns off at a certain hour. nice. Why don't use that for other things? Like what? Like lamps that You don't want to put a smart bull in. Lamps. I don't really use lamps I don't think I sorry wait what? I don't think I have any lamps. This is what the meme of light? I don't like the big lights. I just like the little light Yeah lamp house. U What? No. What? I think Yeaho, what is up, people of the Internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform podcast. We're your host, I'm Mquz. I'm Andrew. I'm David Still still got that next jersey on. Still, very nice. I've never taken it off. I've been a fan for fifteen days. It must be good luck. Today's episode, we got Google's releases, including Android seventeen, We got to talk about that. Also multiple AR slash XR glasses have come out, multiple tech bands have happened And also new matter updates. So we got a whole bunch of stuff to talk about. It matters. It does matter. And just in case you're wondering if this episode's a little late, it might be because The Nicks won the MBA finals.. Adam is a big Nicks fan. Wait, the Nicks won the MBA Fan Adam's going to the parade. We're also recording this lake. This Marquz was just in Rome and flew back like an hour ago. I just landed. landed now An hour So We're starting late. we're editing late. Maybe it'll be on time. If so Adam's a bigger M VP than Jaalen Brunson, wow. Well, I mean, kind of true Always true. I mean, true, even if it's super late, but yeah We here. We're still here. Yeah. if you make it to the end of the episode, you can comment Adam is the real MVP Speaking of Jayen Brunson though, I just gotta mention, look That guy can stop so fast. you know, Wendy's tripping all over him Those refs are not calling nothing on Weby. He's like making jumps going for his ACL. David dr you crazy. Alsoat Kat was like very underrepresented. He is really the reason they won game one and two, which is crazy But about in the fifteen days, the long fifteen days that I've been covering like following basketball. That Hand of OG tip offff that I watched that live was probably the best basketball I've ever seen in fifteen days. It was crazy. It's the only and it's the best. It was one of the first games of basketball I had ever watched, and all the announcers were like, I think this is the best game I've ever seen in my life. And I was like, Did you see time to start?o Was it Charles Barkley that was like That was a world class choked what did he say? It was the dumbest team in the history of civilization. There's a way Epers lost that game. It was tough to watch. That's pretty rough. I was in the garden for that and shout out to yeah, my dad's a big Kicks fan, lifetime Kicks fan decided on a whim to take him to a game. That was the game we went to. probablyrobably the greatest Kicks game of all time Definitely. but yeah, it's up there. was it was incraredible. It was two and it ain't two. Yeah. Your dad's the most stoic man ever. Like you're sending pictures of it. man. was just Hs say You could tell the hope was there, but he didn't wantan to get over He waited uil the final buzzer to be like, oh my go, they actually won. 'ause was there were many opportunities to lose even though they had this incredible comeback and they actually won. twenty nine point comeback. Y. And if you like this six minutes. If you like this talk of basketball, just wait 'cause we have a whole bonus episode coming up next week. so we don't even get ready for that 'cause I already know everything about this We'll see about that. He's gonna to teach Alex about the Yeah. I'm see Yeah. comeome at me, Alex, let's go. But first. Okay Did they even test this? I have two. They're both pretty small One I think is more niche and one I know happens to everyone, but it's really fast, which would you rather like U the one that happens to everyone, I think. Okay. so Have you ever noticed On YouTube Web When you go to the search bar And you hover over the X The highlighting circle is breaking over pretty much every line in the UI possible This is terrible Yeah It would have never noticed that. It would freak out if he saw this, but I checked in multiple browsers. It's happening in all of them. all the ones I tested How did no one on the YouTube AI or YouTube UI team? Have you seen this Yeah. They fixed it and it's still not centered that I saw someone say they fixed it, but all they fixed was the two different dark modes. Dark thing they fixed, which was a big deal Which should be really easy. But the text is still not correct. Be they put cal under the one number, which just absolutely decimates the lining. which you think Anyone could fix? I don't know, man. I feel like Google Google Yeah, their software can be a little. YouTube like updates the UI every couple months with subtle things. I think Mbile just got this update that doesn't show subscribers anymore And it shows like live it shows views subscribers. Yeah. And I know that they always claim to be doing lots of small volume tests. They'll do a test that's like, half a percent of people on the site will see this. And if it goes over well, then we'll show it to one percent and then one and a half percent. Somehow these things make it all the way to the end and then we go, wait, what? That's But Those are at least on purpose changes that suck Yeah. this is just a straight up U like one of the most clicked places on. actually won't. That's a good question. Do people actually I don't I don't usually click the X. I've never clicked Really? Really? Yeah. I've never I click it all the time. I click it all the time because goes to Mande. One, if you' notice that Whatever you search, no matter how long you stay in the browser, the thing stays in the search box all the time even if you click through a million videos. so I like Clearing that out and yeah clicking that Xase someone stands over your shoulder and sees the embarrassing thing you see. Exactly. that you were about to search Just like how to know everything about the in the next hour. No knownnt today. Give me the history of B well TLDR. Long fifteen dayays stream. By the way, Steh Curry. I know that he popularized the three pointer and he can shoot that sh from like three quarters away from the court. That's crazy. Yeah. But like they they put that they gave Wemby that play. They were like, make a bunch of three pointers because you're seven feet eight. And then Jalen Brunson, the mini guy, he's like, I' I don't care about three pointers. I'm just going to ram in here and getet twos over and over and over again within six minutes. It's freaking crazy. It's so crazy. But Steph Curry Still might be the go of all time. is all I gota say. this is I want more of these takes, but can't we can't keep doing this. to do with David and Ox. Yeah. So bad.. Okay, Re quick on that YouTube update though on mobile. Yeah. I think it's a good change. I kind of want to debate this a little bit. What part the not showing not showing c drivers and just showing vs It does. so when there's a subscribe but here's where I'll play Devil's advocate. I think showing a subscribe button I guess I'm generally in favor of glanceable quality metrics. And when they took away the dislike counter to me I was like, I get why they're doing this, but if I see a video like a tutorial on how to install something electrical and it has way more dislikes than normal, I know not to follow that tutorial at a glance. I don't have to get twelve minutes in and be like, wait, this doesn't seem right And to me, the subscriber counter is a Glanceable. Like quality verification, likeike if I'm watching a video, I guess I feel like people are more likely to watch a video from a channel with more subscribers And when you don't have that on the watch page, so you're just clicking into a random related video, you don't know how many subscribers it has. Yeah. You're going purely by how many views it has. I've got God's advocate for you because it's the devil's devil's advocate. Sure. Okay U YouTube is now old enough that there are many, many, many channels that have a ton of subscribers that don't make quality content anymore. You watch the latest mister Beast video? It's all people with a million subscribers and half of them don't get any views anymore. Yeah. Yeah. So like you' out of the You're not one. Yeah, this is the thing, this is the thing. Subscribers can sort of be a legacy artifact Like For you, you're still getting really good views. It's still very much a vanity metric. Has been for a long time. Right. I agree. Right. But like it makes it easier now for people to break onto this because the algorithm behind the scenes is already sort of doing a lot of work to tell the search engine whether or not this is a quality video, right? It's based on how long people stayed on the video for all of these metrics. And so like for me now it's like subscriber count. There might be a YouTuber from fifteen years ago, but he completely sold out his channel F years ago And so there's a lot of subscribers, but it's not a good indicator of quality. Yeah, I would say that Yeah. I'd say there's a small there's a percentage that is a good indicator of quality like yourself. But there is a lot of people I don't think it's necessarily good indicator of quality. Also, maybe they're making the same type of video that they made that everyone kind of vibed with ten years ago, but nobody really cares for anymore. That's just, you know Tes change. I feel like an argument for showing subscribers which is your argument, but the opposite of it is if there's a low subscriber channel with a ton of videos, I'm more likely to be like Well somethingomet's going right here. Like I want to watch this because something's clar's an outlier. Yeah, it's like it's an outlier and outliers generally are either If it's a tutorial type thing, it's like, okay, people really connected with this tutorial and it seems to be working Something insane happened in this and I want to see what that is. That is in the same realm of yeah, glanceable information. I glance at, oh, this has three million views, but the channel only has ten thousand subscribers. Okay, that tells me something D rather than not have. that though I feel like I kind of feel like if someone's made a thousand videos but none of them get views. I feel like the algorithm is really good at surfacing good content. And so if it didn't surface a single one of those videos over the thousand videos they made, they just don't make good content in general. Yeah, I guess you're more in the realm of suggested videos and the algorithm surfacing things for you on the homepage. I'm more in the realm of search and manually going to content and trying to judge if I should watch it the spot. But doesn't the search engine kind of do the same thing as what the homepage is doing? It tries, but it will show me bad stuff. So if I get to a video and it's bad, I can glance at, Ohh, it has a bunch of dislikes, it's bad versus it's gone now so I might watch too much of the video to realize I was my time.. You're talking about like you search something specific. How do I pick this thing that's specific? You're talking about home. Yeah, but I mean, the search, you know, if a video has two hundred thousand views on the search engine I still think that's a decent indicator of quality. It's one of them generally. Yeah. The view count. What if they got rid of view count I know, you can't do that Be you can't do that Be this falls this is like the slope of your exact same argument. Well, the algorithm is gonna to tell me what's good. It's pretty good at that already. It's doing all that stuff behind the scenes. I see what you're saying. But I would like to know how many views it has I would like to see how many likes and dislikes. Okay, yeah, I get what you're saying. Yeah. All right Well we'll see. it's still there on desktop. It's still there on desktop. I can still see this stuff, but we'll see how long that lasts. Yeah All right, we gotta talk about these glasses. We don't even know the name of them. is funny because there's a post in the MPBHD subwit that it's like finally like something incredibly dramatic has happened right before the record on Wednesday. And it is Snapchat's unveiling of the new AR glasses And of course, Evan, their CEO is going around doing a bunch of interviews like wearing glasses. they've showed it to people aboutbout two years ago, I think it was, we had the previous generation of their A spectacles here And they were massive and extremely first gen feeling, but at least it worked and it was a proof of concept. and I could see the idea. Now this this new generation of them is two thousand two hundred dollars they're gonna sell these. They are a little tiny bit smaller, but they still look Quite large.Quite heavy. ye. Do let me do specs first and then we'll talk about sure the most fun part, which is what they look like, Yeahck the specs. Sck the specs. Okay two thousand one hundred and ninety five dollars Snap is calling the wearable computer built into to see through AR glasses to give them credit They are standalone. There's no puck, there's no wire Yeah. You'll see where they fit all of it later. Snapdragon. Yep. two Snapdragon chips, four hours of battery, twenty including the case Depending on the size, it's either one hundred and thirty two or one hundred and thirty six grams There's any sizes Yeah, I didn't really get what that meant. But it' for people with smaller heads and people with bigger heads. Yeah, I guess. There's an LED bar to show that they're recording. This is a fifty one degree field of view, which the previous ones we did were forty six. and man, I remember that feeling really limiting.. So I'm glad it's higher, but it's not much higher. Yeah. five degrees higher is not The Meta Orions were seventy degrees and that felt so much better.ame with the X real aura Are they? seventy. seventy. seventy two, I think. I do. The spec prototypes, we haven't used these new ones. I do think I remember the resolution being so much better than the OrIs But I would pick field of view over resolution any day because it When I was wearing them, they just kept getting cut off, like whole parts of the screen, which is gone.. I remember playing a golf game with them And the whole idea of the golf game is like it overlays the golf hole and the world over your real world But I would look down at the club and the ball And then I would look up at the target and I couldn't see them both at the same time. And then when Id swing the club, I can't see the club anymore. So I only see the ball and it was very like segmenting. It just took me out of the immersion because of how compact the field of view is it cut off really fast. And then they're claiming it can show sixty million colors and go from clear to tinted Okay Now who wants to talk about what they look like They look cada U Well, okay, there's two things about them that I think are weird. One is the size. Obviously you are fitting a ton of compute in them and to their credit, they have jammed a ton of compute in these things But they have these really big thick arms, big thick rims. And even over behind the ear, there's extra weight sort of counterbalancing everything. So one hundred thirty grams is pretty heavy for something you're going to wear on your face that's supposed to feel clear. If it's a VR headset, maybe you're expecting, you know, heavy, but the glasses are kind of heavy The other thing though is every single one of these pictures I've seen pictures and videos It I can't see through to his eyes very well. I don't know if it's the wave Gu or something about the glass that they're using, but it doesn't feel like I'm looking at someone wearing glasses. It feels like I'm looking at someone who's wearing, I mean, they might as well just be wearing a headset. like yeah I'm not making Ro high contact? You know what I mean? Like this is theictures I'm seeing. Maybe there's just in the room. There's video too. there's aacks up every time I see him turn his head around and smile and Yeah, they look like fogged over or something. Yeah. So those are the two things I noticed that would turn me off from Giving a chance. And obviously these are still super early and the devil's advocate for these is well, At some point they're going to be really good and then we'll all want these because they'll be really nice. And this is just the early adopter version Um To which I'd say yes, this is the really, really early r a company from a company that doesn't really have any usable applications for day to day use. L that's what seems very confusing to me about this is that Evans positions them as a wearable computer to do what exactly In stabchat Snapchat's, UI and AR and whatever. right. They don't have like applications like Apple has with the Vision not even Apple has with the Vision Pro, which Apple doesn't really have that many applications for the Vision Pro, but at least you can use Safari and big on messages at a YouTube app now There's a YouTube app now. You can you can watch movies. There's there's actually there's a little utility to the Vision Pro What do you actually do in these besides Snapchat Yeah, I question. From what I remember, I mean there's a bunch of these there's lenses and there's a bunch of it felt like applications and I'm not remembering everything. I' have to go back and watch my own video just to refresh my memory. But there were some apps and there are some developers who are making things that work with these glasses, but it wasn't in the name of productivity usually. It was typically just like, here's a thing that we built that takes advantage of AR So like my computer screen's not in there, my documents aren't in there. browsers and YouTube videos are not in there, but it's just a couple of experiences. This is kind of analogous to the Windows phone because's if there's no developers making actual things that people use every day and like porting their stuff to it, what do you do with it? It's a confusing thing because he says there's four hundred fifty thousand developers creating for Snap AR, but like that Obviously it's including the snapchat theyR that they've had for years. So like I don't think I need a pair of glasses that are going to play the dancing hot dog guy in a fifty degree feelield This is the primary use case of glasses. I'm sure there iss more. I'm sure there's some stuff But none of that can get passed. I think calling it thick is an understatement.. They're like If you took glasses and made them bold and then still one and a half X to them like they just do not fit on his head. hisis ears are absolutely crushed. Yeah. There's an interview of him on CNBC that is brutal and He literally looks like he's like, moving down his head like throughout the whole thing. and I honestly think it's because of the weight of the glasses. They stick out like four inches past your ear with these big, I mean, it's cool that they fit all that. I know that it's a huge tech advancement Yeah for where it is But two years ago, these were really cool because it was a prototype that we could see where they're going. Now it's a two thousand two hundred dollars thing that a person can buy and it's going to get made fun of because of that. Yeah, I think that it's cool that they were able to pack that much technology into the glasses. And if you were to compare these to like an actual wearable computer, like a Vision Pro, And you said, oh, we basically packed most of the Vision P's technology into Thick, arguably very thick glasses, It's still like shrinking down the tech by for sure. That's what I was going to say is like there are w ways to look at this this like dimensions. and one of them makes them look really impressive. Yeah and the other makes them look really bad. Yeah. The really impressive one is, okay, these glasses are one hundred thirty something grams and a Vision Pro is seven or eight hundred grams And this doesn't have a puck. This has all the compute, all the sensors, all the chips, all the batteries, everything all built in at one hundred and thirty grams. That's actually very impressing thing. It is really impressive technical feat The other angle is Arayband metas with the cameras in them and the batteries and the compute for that are According to Google, about fifty grams. Yeah. So you're wearing And the Xriels, which I just showed you, which feel too heavy. They're a little bit front heavy, but I wouldn't want to wear them all day And they have the electrochric glass and the tint and everything. those were in the ninety gram range. So these being one hundred and thirty is but not an all day p. real said I use use your phone And they have a separate compute. Exactly. Yeah. Which in my opinion is better That's just using your phone or not Yeahah, using your phone. I will It's cool that they can do it using your phone. I don't think's that big of a deal because we have it. The tether not having that is huge.. I totally agree. But By saying like these all compute by themselves and these don't have a tether or they don't have a puck. they still have to be glasses at the end of the day. and they just look so uncomfortable. No part of him wearing that in any of those interviews does he look like he's having a good time with them? I don't know who it was. Someone sent a picture of Danny Devito and they were They missed out on having him wear the glasses Yeah, the closest thing to this is like Holo lens, right? Because it's a standalone device that you wear when you want to do certain tasks. but it's not necessarily like a They're kind of angling them as a thing that you just wear every day. I that's a mistake. That's the mistake Yeah I have a quote from him. He says during that CNBC interview, he says the goal for these are to bring computing into the world and make it more human. I think it's something people are really looking for where screens are distracting them and people are spending more than seven hours a day staring at a screen and spending instead of spending time with their friends. He's saying that with two giant screens glued to his eyeballs where the interviewer can't even see his. That would have hit so much harder if the glasses were clear. I know feels like more of separation because now I just can't see your eyes. I don't know if you're looking at something. Also, you can't spend seven hours a day staring at them because it has a four hour battery light. So like Is it four hours or two hours? It's four hours fourours hour. Yeah. And he wants you to spend fourteen hours a day staring into the screens. So o, I'm gonna be Devil's advocate here I think these are dope because they are specifically and Apple Vision Pro alternative. I don't see them as a metaglasses alternative Like I'm not expecting anyone to wear these walking around all day. These are developers that are building the future of AR. just like Apple Vision Proone no matter what Apple wants to say Yeah. Regular people aren't using that. That's for developers building the future of AR. I agree with you. And that's kind of how I view these. It's not how they position them. exactly. They're positioning is position Yeah, so that's so I remember years ago way back at the beginning of this AR XR thing, we talked about the spectrum of like on one side of the spectrum, there's VR headsets whereere you're obviously not going to walk around in them. They're an opaque thing with like passth through cameras and you put it on, you're fully immersed and they're heavy and you watch a movie in it for an hour or whatever, wear it for work. That's one side of the spectrum And on the complete other side of the spectrum is glasses with a tiny bit of tech in them. Maybe a camera and a speaker and a battery and some compute. mononos screen. And they're transparent. There's no screen But like absolute basic, total other side of the spectrum. Those you can actually see people putting on and wearing for half a day, an entire day And then companies in order to get to this future of like you know, the future of aerror computing have to decide which part they want to start with to the future And I think if you position yourself in the wrong way, you're kind of doomed and you have to start over. So Vision Pro is where Apple chose to start They're going to eventually do glasses someday, we all suspect These are kind of like I mean, he's wearing them as if they're supposed to be regular glasses. He's having conversations with people. He's doing interviews with people wearing the glasses as if they're not a like if this is a vision probe you'd be like, what are you doing? So they're positioning them very clearly as a thing that you can wear and walk around and live your life because it's glass and it's AR and they're in the world around you But then they look Like yeah, just a little too much for that. Yeah So they're kind of in the middle They're in the middle, which is like where They want to land. It's very clear. In his interview, he said like that almost that exact same thing, we want to be in the middle. I think the problem is when you have to describe things as wear them light glasses instead of wearing them as glasses because that's what they are. It's just proof that none of us are looking at this and thinking this is a pair of glasses. I guess my question is as a regular consumer is why do they need to announce this like Very publicly, could this not just be an email with like a community space or the targeted audience? Yeah, that's what I was about to say againg, with their positioning problem, they're saying we're going to sell these to consumers, which is a bad move. Like the Holllow lens was always for enterprise and enterprise only And selling these like direct to consumer and going on CNBC and be like, look at our big consumer. like what are you doing? Cumers are not going to buy this. twenty thousand two hundred bucks implies a lot of tech and a lot of functionality and usefulness. And I tweeted this like, There are actually two things you have to overcome. You have to overcome the price and how darkky they look. If there are some amazing utilities or some incredible functionality or productivity things that it does makes you want to do that, then you're willing to go, okay, I know it looks like ridiculous, but look at this amazing functionality Same with the price. I know it's two thousand dollars, but like I don't have to use a MacBook Pro anymore. it's two thousand dollars. I don't see that with these. and maybe I'll be proven wrong, mayaybe there's some development happening, Maybe there's some amazing apps that I haven't seen with these spectacles yet, but I think that's what it needs to overcome how ridiculously bad they look and how expensive they are. Yeah, we don't really even know anything about the app ecosystem or functionality yet So waiting to see that. We'll see that. Hopefully they send us a pair so we can look stupid for a while. I'm sure they'll love too after they hear what we just said about At a different place in this world, we still have Xreel's AR glasses they just launched, which are running Android XR So we know the ecosystem. it's lay store. So it's whatever you want to do in the playlaystore and all the stuff that's optimized for Android XR that's actually pretty interesting now. like Google Maps has this ith this cool optimized Android XR version, you can fly down into street view and look around then and pinch and zoom and walk around. it's kind of interesting. Um But yeah, I did some of this. I covered these actually on the latest O Tch episode. So if you want to watch that, there's about two or three minutes in there about these. Again, ninety grams. You know, seventy something degree field of view Micro OLI displays it looks pretty good. They're high resolution, and I think my favorite feuture is you can like soft body lock a video in the corner of your vision with you and walk around with it So instead of like having to pinch and hold and walk around carrying the video You can like watch waveform in the corner of your vision while you actually wash dishes because you're just looking through glass. which is exactly how I watch it anyway when I'm doing dishes. It's pfose. It's f to the sink. Yeah. That's such a simple thing. Like so many of VR AR is like, how do you pin things to a spatial place that's in your actual environment? And this iss just like right. Just put it in my corner And it stays with me and I can see it needs to move it around. Yeah, exactly. whichich the extrs were cool because they can do pinning to different places in the environment. Like it was a really neat I still want to call it a demo of what Android XR was because These glasses I also don't think are things you're walking around with every day. No, yeah. They look very similar to some previous Xreels where Even though the shape is smaller and the weight is lighter It still just fits really strangely off the front of your face because it has to fit those windows. Yeah. I've always thought of these as closer to a VR headset, even though they don't look like it, they're very much like a put a screen on your face type of thing. Sit down at a desk. An airplane, a train Yeah get yourself a private, larger screen. They're nice on a plane. Yeah. I think they'd nice on a plane.. think the previous version, the one Ellis was like fully locked in first They're plugging on play. A few of these. Yeah. it might have been those are Nreal or something like that. A lot of them were the same where like they're pluggging realized Xra real, but they changed things. Yeah. So when we were using Nreal it was actually for the third person video that we did ight I think Else was more locked into the MetaQuest Pro Yeah for a while, but the Nreal ones were very awesome because like They were super plugging by. You just plug your phone and it's there. Yeah These The whole puck thing that just looks like a phone, including it essentially has a like wholeo bunch cutout on the front was just very funny to me. Yeah. It' screen. You can plug that plug into something else, L like your' phone or actually even better, what I did was plugg it into my laptop so that my laptop screen became one of the things in the virtual space. That's cool So that was, I'll try that. a legitimately interesting. like eightighty percent of the stuff that I would do with this is just being on a plane.ike I want to go on a plane and I have to edit a video that's embargoed, so nobody around me on the plane can see it. So I would just plug it into these. The screen would go black here and it would just show up in my glasses and I could edit the video on the plane. That's smart. Stuff like that. Yeah. I stillill wonder about the utility of these things. I guess for that It makes sense. We're watching mov information. We don't have a price on these yet, right U no, but they promised me that they would be under the price of the full Galaxy XR headset, whichich makes sense. Okay because that's like eighteen hundred It's like two Gs. Well, that's already cheaper than the snap spectacles. So that the Galaxy XR was eighteen hundred, I think So this is ideally. People are really. Pople need to get get that utility curve up there. Like they need to figure out the utility real hard because putting these things on your face has a very high goofiness scale It is this. I do like the electrochromatic tint because the old endreils we used to have Just came with a cover that you put over top of the glass to get the faded black background so everything popped more Okay. Well, speaking of Um, Gosh, you can do this you can do this fabric Digital fabric. Okay. Is that something I could say? Speaking of things made in the universe. Speaking of things that matter, Hey! That's true. Honestly, thank you, Andrew. You really saved me on that one Matter oneot six. Okay You guys have heard me talk about matter before. I love protocols. We love protocols here at the Waakefort podcast. It's more than the Faverse corner. it's the protocol corner. Yes. expxpanded Fedaverse corner. Yeah. because the Fedaverse is dead, so we can justs dead this into the prrotocols corner Met Hey, Met has tried to kill it many times and they're still trying to kill every. They They stabbed it. It's bleeding openly But it's not dead yet. Wby stomping on a JCL? Yeah, Wndby stomping on the Fiverse current JCL Okay, hey, hey. okay. Matter Matters. You guys might remember Matter Protocol, smmart home protocol You probably don't like going to the store, you know, being like, oh, I like this smart bulb. It's cool, but then you see works with Amazon Alexa. I have Google Homes in my home, which we'll talk about later because Google Home is also a feature on this podcast today Matter is supposed to be this just like, oh, it works with Google Home, it works with Amazon Alexa. it works with Home Kit. Amazing. They've stumbled quite a bit with this future.. I remember looking forward to this. Yeah. were I remember having the little glimmer in my eyes. That's how all protocols start, Marquz. I go to homeome deep like Somed these lights will all talk to each other. They'll all talk to each other. So the early version of Matter, basically how it worked, is that you would still set up in one of the, you know, Google Home apps or like the Amazon Alexa app or the Siri Homekit app. Yeah. But then you had to like share the device with other apps through the Matter protocol, which used a thread border router. It was sort of like thread. Yeah, thread, Matter over thread. Yeah. Sort of like tacking on a bunch of like protocols onto existing things. It was like Velcroing something to more Velcro. one hundred percent. percent Situation There are fourteen protocols. There We should make one encompasses all of these. Situation. There are fifteen protocols. Okay, Matteratter Oa six is supposed to fix this problem They have this new feature called Joint fabric, which should allow any smart device on the network to just automatically show the device that you set up Which is a big deal. Anything? An. An And allegedly. Supposed to Supposed to allegedly U Now all these companies obviously have to support This this joint fabric thing. I feel like that's always the re You say that line I know. It's like now all the companies are supposed to support this. No. Now we have fifteen per Okay. If you remember, if you remember, the entire reason that Google and Apple and Amazon decided to support matter was especially, especially Apple They went way too hard on certifying every single home kit device, and then they realized like we don't have the infrastructure to like certify every single one that's good enough for us. So it's easier If Amazon just like makes all these smart home things and we can utilize it, we can tap into it. We don't have to deal with any of this stuff. So Apple I think still has incentive, whether Google or Amazon now still have as much incentive to support matter. Similarly to how Ma at one point had some incentive to support the Fedaverse and now just doesn't. Yet to be seen. Yes, boo them every day U Anyway, it does bring some other benefits. There is now NFC setup, which is very good I had a Samsung smart plug c It had An QR code on the back of the smart plug So you cant scan it wass pluggged. Yes, ye. It's pretty classic. That was the most did they even tellestest thing I've ever seen in my life becausecause it can't find it when it's not getting power. Yeah. I have this I have this incredibly frustrating also incredibly boring situation where I've gone through several smart locks in my garage. I have this one door. It's like really far from all the other appliances. It's far from the WiFi, but it's I just want to have a smart lock there. And every time I try to set one up, it's like, well, I have to connect to something else on the network And I'll have like, I'll like unplug a doorbell and like walk over and like wave it to block. Like nothing ever really gets it to connect. And I'm just hoping that at someday Yeah, one of these protocols man, they're gonna fix everything. Unplugging a doorbell sounds crazy. Yeah. Someeday, one of these protocols. I have a nest Battery door Yeah dumbest thing have. When I die on my Tmbstone, I really want you to write someday one of these protocols is gonna affix everything. That's why I want on Tombstone. I feel like Random smart home gadgets are the most often Claire will find me just like sitting cross leed on the floor. Yeahing watchatching a YouTube tutorial Everything okay? It' fine. work. The cool thing about this new NFC setup though, is that you can pair to the device before you even power the device on So this problem that I have where they put the QR code on the back. Okay That's not a problem won't theoreticallyg allegedly won't be a problem anymore U compomanies like Eve have been offering matter upgrades for a long time and now they sell direct. They used to be like a home kit only company, but now they're doing matter, which is good for them because they can just be like Hey, we're available everything And then Matter could be like, hey, look at our big, you know, these guys are supporting Matter people U So that's nice. So hopefully we're going to see a lot more products like that. Also, one more thing. The thread protocol, of which matter, you know, because matter over thread. That's how the whole thing. Matter happening over thread. Yeah. Yeah, I've explained this to my dead grandma. She understands it. She understands it. There's a new thread update. It's called Thread direct. And it allows you because now I think we did a short about this a while ago. There are now there are hidden thread radios now in like new iPhones, new pixels and some new Samsung phones And now you won't have to have a thread border router to set up the device because Previously, in order to set up a matter enabled device over thread, you had to have, well, you still have to have this, but not to set up You had to have a Google Nest WiFi Pro, which is a thread border router or a Apple TV, which is a Thread border router or some Alexa devices, whatever they're called. I don't even remember And now you can just set it up directly from your phone. which is really helpful, and you can deal with all the networking stuff later. But you can at least Get it set up on the thread network and then matter will work afterwards Um allegedly Allegedly. So yeah, this is all extremely alleged didid get announced this week. We'll see how long it takes to actually get implemented Please God. It's one of those things where're like I really hope this works, but this working It just means things work. It's like ye it kind of sucks that when all of this goes perfectly, there'll be no big hype around it because it just mean I won't be banging my head against it. It's like guy man. It's like noobody appreciates the IT guy until you got a real big problem. Th things are broken down. Yeah. C I get a vibe check? What percentage of your guys's homes run on smart things like like if they were to just not work. I think function. Most of. Percentage is hard because Yeah, the percent is hard, but I do have several pretty important like my doorbeills are all smart doorbeills. I don't I mean, that's fine, but like if if the interternet goes out. I guess I don't get.ike if someone rings the doorbell, I just won't. Oh yeah. Yeah. Hopefully there's something called knocking so ye Yeah, but' good There's a doorbell. doorbell. People just don't knock anymore. They just hit the doorbell. yeah. so that would be bad. I think the only thing that would screw me is the lights in my living room because that's a smart switch All of my I don't know on my whichich is a problem because occasionally it does glitch out and I just can't turn my lights off. Sometimes I sleep in the bright light. Are they smart bulbs or smart switches? Sart switches. Good. Smart switches are the best. I can w up for that issue ye. Yeah They're smart plugs, sorry Oh And like lamps in his sm. Yeah, yeah yeah You can still press the button on the side, right You just have to act Nud. All my smart pls have a butunon on the side that The Eve ones that I have are on the side. I can do it, but the Samson ones on the back I do have one I have exactly one smart outlet and every year around the holidays, the Christmas tree goes in that one and it turns on on a certain hour, turnurns off a certain hour. Oh nice. Why don't use that for other things? Lsike what? Like lamps that you don't want to put a smart bulb in Lamps. I don't really use lamps I don't think I sorry wait what? I don't think I have any lamps. This is what the meme of light? I don't like the big lights. I just like the little lights Yeah lampps house. What? No. What? I think To be fair, I think my lamps are plant lamps. Yeah prefer plants. Okay. We got windows and we got a big switch You use your six hundred kilpht. U use your overhead light? Yeah natural sunlight. I don't nur. I li in the basem You don't use your overhead lights. Yeah Or just windows with no. Sometimes I don't turn the lights on because it's bright Yeah the sun. I would do that if I had windows Anyway, Great. Okay's great. should be. It is time for Tvia. Cellar dweller over here Snap has launched multiple things under the Snapchat umbrella But which of these is not real A Snapchat Apple Watch app, self explanatory. 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I don't know if you guys remember, but during the October Google Made by Google event last year They announced a very, very nice looking new Google Home speaker It comes in basically all the same colors as the Fitbit air, which is very nice. Although half of them are exclusive to the US for some reason. I realize that? Yeah, the good colors are exclusive to the US. Like the Berry and the, I believe the green one are the exclusive US colors I don't know if they have weird color names like Jade and porcelain and stuff, but yeah. Jade Porcelain, Barry. Yeahah So this is effectively their first Gemini first speaker. That's the big deal. It has a glowing LED strip on the bottom that will kind of illuminate and dance when you're talking to Gemini. And instead of being the classic you know Google four color combo, it's sort of that blue purple look. It's supposed to have three hundred sixty degree audio, You can pair them to each other C comppare it a Google TV streamer, you can use it for surround sound audio They say the audio is a lot better But the main things honestly are the Gemini reasoning Now, there's a lot more things that you can do with this, just like there are a lot more things you can do with Gemini over Google Assistant For example, you can say, turn off all the lights except the bedside lampps so you can make exceptions. You can say dim the kitchen lights, play some relaxing music, and set a twenty minute timer. So you can chain together reasoning. That's pretty cool. Turn on the coffee maker. I mean, turn it A. You can say I mean and kind of interrupt it in the middle That's great What's the weather going to be like for the next Mets game That's pretty cool because it understands where it is, you know, when it is. Yeah. Currently, if you ask Google for that, it will absolutely Without question get it wrong. Yeah. Yeah. What if I don't have any lamps in my house. That's a little unrealistic, Mar. Everyone has some lamp. Everyone's got a lamamp. att least one lamp. And it's gotta be a smart one as well. Yeah. It will leave the mic open or on for a couple of seconds after you finish after it finishes giving you the response so that you can continue a conversation with it. Huge. Very useful. By the way, I was testing this on Syria yesterday. I was walking over the Manhattan brridge And I was trying to like ask Siri some questions, but it will just give you the response. And then every time you have to say, hey S again Just to continue the conversation. Re annoying. I would really like it if you just keep it going. So that's cool Yeah it doesn't that's a good point. Yeah It doesn't have a live mode. When you open like Gemini, you can open a Gemini live chat it's just back and forth conversation. It's always listening. you can keep talking. You can interrupt it and ask another question. it'll keep going. Yeah. And Siri does not have a like chat mode now they all do. No. interestnteresting. Yeah, they they're going need to add that, I think. Yeah. There are ten new voices So you can really, you know, get very specific with the way that you want your I might Google assistant Geminit of sound, you could make it Australian. You could make it Marquees as an Australian. I'm not sure if either of those are true. You can definitely I think the Australian is h Australian Australian' tr on that wouldampplas I would. have If I could have Marquez as an Australian as the assistant, I would one hundred percent pay for that. I'll do some recordings for you. Thank you. Yeah. Google is now also selling a Google homeome premium subscription starting at ten dollars a month does not give you that much. I don't really understand why people are going to want to pay for this, but It gives you Gemini Lve, which you already have on your phone, again I also don't completely understand the difference between this and the microphone just being left on and then you continuing the conversation Google says it lets you say, Hey G, let's chat to have free flowing chats. Yeah. So like when you have same it's kind of the same as on the phone. When you open Gemini and just ask it one question and then it gives you a response and then maybe listens a little longer for another, That's one thing. But when you open the chat the full Gemini live thing, that's what hey, let's chat does then you can interrupt it while it wass talking back to you, you can ask unrelated questions and then ask it about previous questions. It's like this whole Live and same thing with like the chat GPT app and like others, they all have thist just like talking version. Could you not do that if you were just talking to it normally though? I don't think you can interrupt it. I don't think it's quite the same like full feured chat experience. Okay Yeah. It feels more like orer based like telling it what to do or as specific things, like all of those have a specific outcome. Yeah. It's like when you're planning to have a multi response conversation with it where you don't really know where you're going. That's when I would do the live thing. When you're just asking for one thing or two things Thank you. ask it. The main reason I use Gemini Live on my phone is because I want to show it something in the real world Like if I'm having a technical issue and I'm like, this is the thing I'm having a problem with or this is what's on my screen, can you tell me about whatever? Yeah. I've asked it about like researching things that I don't know about. so I'll ask it like basic high level questions and then dig in After that Yeah. Tell me about these paint colors and like is it bad to use these types of paint colors? And why is it bad to use And then I just ask follow questions. But I feel like you could do that with the regular one Probably could. Yeah. but yeah. That' I just like different. If this is behind a paywall, it just like you really have to add value, I would feel like totally. I don't know Other things you get with the Gemini are the Google Home Premium subscription, you get camera history research, you can ask your speaker to describe current or recent activity captured on your nest cams like Heiji is my back gate open or Heiji Did my dog go on the couch today I don't know why you would need to know that. That was literally one of Z's b by the way. So. It' craz' just nars on your dog. Did the raccoons take the trash the trash? There are home briefs, you can ask G and I what happened in your home while you were away. If that's anything like the home briefs that it gives me in the Nest app right now It will take forever. So Nest Aware, which is the paid subscription, is becoming Google Home Premium. Yeah. So July. It's exactly terrible. Yeah. so bad. Really really long. I literally, I mean, I pay for it because I just want the I've probably ranted about this before, so I'm sorry, but I just want the history, the events being labeled, which half of them are wrong anyways. Yeah Um, and then like the other Also, the thing's just not good at catching things sometimes I sent you guys all the picture of the bear walking past my front door. It walks right past the other camera No event capture or anything. A light breatze.vent. But yeah, but then every time I go to look at it, I have to go through this four paragraph essay of like This morning, a woman and a girl walk out the front door. It's like, my wife and my daughter that you've seen four thousand times that are logged in there. It's just too long. And I can't imagine it saying that out loud. Yeah, yeah, kind of strange. Yeah. I have a sort of theory slash conspiracy theory It sounds like it's apiracy it's more a theory. Let me get my tin foil hat. Yeah,. getin. Okay. I don't really think that Google wants you to buy Google Home Pmium or or Google Health Premium or any of their like small ten dollars like premium feature things because They're like they just keep adding value to the Google AI Pro Google Drive subscription. Yeah because it comes with all this stuff. They want enough of the ten dollar ones to add up to make twenty dollars AI thing, whichich is twenty dollars by. Oh. So like it's basically Like we've talked before about like price ladders and stuff like that. Yeah. But I feel like this stuff would normally be free, but they're only slapping a price tag on it because they want you to pay for the AI pro subscription. So they say they have more Gemini users so that they can keep getting investment for artificial intelligence. I mostly on board with that. I think they have to have a way for it to be standalone as literally your only product. likeike you have a Google account and just that speaker and you want to be able to use it with no other anything then I guess you just have that one creepy free But Yeah. But I think they are pricing it specifically to be like, well, for just a few more dollars, I could just have this whole account with all this stuff in. Yeah. I mean Google AI Pro comes with five terabytes of drive storage, almost full min. So even Terabytes. So even if you do not care about Gemini, which is what it, you know, it's AI Pro and it comes with Gemini Pro and all these Gemini features, and it comes with Google Health Premium, it comes with Google Home Premium. Even you don't want any of that other stuff Regular people want the storage. Yeah. You know what I mean? So in my opinion, like they're only throwing price tags on these things in order to get more AI subscribers. Yeah. Yeah. I think I buy. Yeah I'm buying for sure. And I think that it's really smart of them to use Google Drive as the main workhorse on this because that's the thing that most people like Marquz, why are you almost filled up with your five terabytes of storage? Yeah because my Gmail of like the past twenty years of Gmail and my Google photos are at like four point nine terabytes right now. And photos are like the thing that most people care most about Yeah it's so much such a long term game for like all of these companies giving you like buy our pixel phone. You get it for free. I mean neverever mind. Yeah remember Unlimited highation storageixel If you upload the photos from the Pixel one, you still get unlimited storage through it. for how long still know damn well I and not still using a pixel. Well peopleople have been buying them on eBay though in like. If you transfer anything from your pixel from any phone to the pixel and then upload from the pixel. It doesn't count against your stage. If you're from Google stop listing right. It takes a lot of. This takes a lot of work. I can make an AI swap all that. if I just get Google AI Pro. Yeah. Just tell Jem and I spark to do it. Then we're good Anyway, they cost ninety nine dollars, which is the same price up to the HomePod Mi. so I think that's kind of the market they're going after If you'll remember the Google Nest Hub mini they used to just throw through your window when you weren't looking Yeah So This one it seems like they think people might actually spend money on. Yeah. They do look very nice. It is twenty The original Google Home was one hundred twenty nine, right? Yes. usually. I still have one that's kicking But yeah These could be ninety nine feels expensive. The NestHub meni was like thirty bucks, but it was competing with the Echo Dot, which was also thirty bucks and the sound quality was. errible be in like cereal boxes. If these were sevventies yeah. No, really would everyvery time you would buy any contract of an Innet, whatever, it's like a hundred dollars of Google and I would just be like, An a Google. Googleaz. last time I moved so many times, like three or four times, and every time I set up a new internet, they would just send me another one.. So I had like four Black Friday, literally anything you bought came with Google many. W the receipts printed on. Yeah Yeah. so anyway, lamp Goo four Goole H mini I was trying to turn it on Anyway, so it got announced today, if you're listening to this, it was two days ago on Wednesday But it they said during the made by Google event last October. it would be out in spring. Technically it is still spring. If you're listening to this for two more days, it comes out on the twenty fifth, which is technically the summer. So it's up to you whether or not you think that they actually made that margin in. How much that means to you And how much that means to you. You know, we're just trying to keep them accountable over here. Yeah So yeah, we should be getting review units pretty soon, so we'll be able to let you guys know what's up. Stay tuned. stay tuned. You' were curious homepods told Yeah. ye Speaking of Google, speaking of Google. Can I jump in here? Yeah Google Android seventeen is out And it is the greatest Android release of all time. Ohow. calling it now. Oh wow At a glance is free Gone. I removed it this morning and the weight off my shoulders is freeing. I am a free man For the world. At a glance is Syanara. So this was the widget that was permanently on every pixel's homepage for the past decade or so. How long has that been? Res not it feels like a day At least four turners is one. And you could just. Did anything crazy happen? Any fireworks show up or you just like removed it and it just went away and that was it I was like looking through all the changes And then I forgot like, wait, the first thing I was excited about this B as ago was at a glance and I I clicked it thinking There's go. Yeah, yeah. I clicked it being like it might still not be there. And I saw that removed from screen. Wow. And I raised both my hands in the thereir and Adam was like, What's going on? I was like Chigo. This is life changing. What are you gonna to do with call that space? You're gonna put icons? No You're going gonna leave it as space because it's where I' always wanted it to be. Maybe now actually I can move my clock to where My clock used to always be at the top and kind of spanning across and I couldn't do that because of at a glance. Yep. So I have it in this weird bottom corner, but my clock can be anywhere I wanted. It can just be free space. As someone who likes just a clean bit of wallpaper Don't need to have yeah. The same the date that's already on the screen somewhere else. before poor use of space. Poor use of of space. But there are a lot of other updates. I know they're not as important. No, no. That's the headliner. There's nearly as important. We got a new floating bubble window thing Android has tried to do bubbles many times. This one is kind of tailored specifically at foldables. They're on regular Android phones as well. You can now make any app a bubble, so it kind of just floats above your other apps. And if you are on a large screen device, which is like a tablet or a foldable phone, which because Android is really lateded foldables You now have a bubble bar And I do like that set of words together. You want to see it. It's it can do up to four apps And then once you do it, it'll start knocking off the oldest one The coolest part of sorry I didn' int show Marquz see four and other floating windows. The coolest part is when you Drag it around, it just has this cool animation. like the Windows XP and it free Like physics based too, like if you go slow, they all go slow. but if you go fast, they all go really fast This is built into has this been built into like third party skins on Android? Because I feel like this isn't new. They' not new. J Bumles are not new. They were only for messaging apps. Right Yeah Even so this this is any app. Yeahah. Not any app, but most apps.. I have a couple of random ones that won't do it interesteresting. The hyperice one doesn't do it like that's whichich does't help API It's probably. There's some smaller ones like a weather app I have that doesn't, I don't know that one does, but yeah, weird Um, yeah. So yeah, there's a bubble bar. If you have a foldable phone where it will just kind of be docked in the lower right corner I feel like this is kind of gonna to look kind of weird on on Android sometimes because now Doesn't the Android sixteen, didn't that introduce the Dck? on the foldable phone, bottom up. So now if you've got a dock of regular apps and a bubble bar. of other apps, but the bottom dock h hides. Bubble bar. Y Yeah Okay. if it hides like a bubble bar hide? No no. It just stays Yeah. It stays you put it wherever you want. Bubble bar. But I find it useful because For example, if you're like, I don't know, if you're watching a NBA sports game like myself. Oh my God. And then you're texting with your friends, right? You can quickly pull up the group chat, hit the group chat, say Wemby is breaking kn getting those fowls. Those refs are not calling those fouls. tellell them Trying to break those ACL's For now. Hit now It actually, like when you've got four apps, it almost becomes this like quick switch takes up eighty percent of the screen. And then you can swap between the apps. Pretty easy. As are you swapping between Discord? it Yeah Discord, Red Slack Red much I'm watching how many times Evan Speigl looks stupid with those glasses. You could say that this is like sort of a minimal phone launcher in a way. If you just keep the bubble bar open Th you just have those four apps these. Would wouldould you say Having four apps open simultaneously is a minimal phone feature? As long as they're non social media apps, I don't know. S interesting. All right, there's other features too. There's other features too. So we're going to say o yes, there's a foldable gaming mode So now if you have a holdable phone, you open it up, it splits the screen in half. So half of it is the game and half of it's a virtual game pad Which actually has a skin on it and doesn't just look like g dum. afford. Now you can. If you're a gamer I'm glad to tell you that if you're a gamer, you can now afford this. If you can afford a folding if you have a T bad. Which maybe you can't afford this. So that's kind of cool. I still think that the adaptable game pads and also just Bluetooth ones are way better because I hate slamming my fingers against the screen. I really hate doing that. I've tried multiple times, it's not fun It's uncomfortable. Yeah, but it makes for a good marketing Like there's something about a folding screen with a fake game pad that makes you feel like three DS is Iing that pixel fold Yeah. Yeah, true. Okay, there is now you can grant apps temporary location access, which is goods because before it was just like permanent location access or no location access And you can only share specific contacts instead of your entire address book If you really don't want apps to know all the stuff about you all the time, You have a little bit more control. There's now a new Mark as Lost feature in Find Hub, which is sort of their find my kind of portal thing for your phone, where you can lock the phone so you can only unlock it with biometrics. And they said the reason was because if the thief knows your passcode, which is the entire point of a passcode. So I'm not really sure why the thief would know your passcode, but maybe they did. You can make it so they can only unlock it if they're using a biometric lo in. So I guess that's What if he has your finger Um hm Yeah, then you're kind of screwed. Maybe they need blood flow. Did they even test this? Yeah, it was kind of like when when they they came out with the face unlock and people were just unlocking their their b response while they were sleeping Anyway, you can also hide app names on home screen. Yes. I have a request. Yes. I really want I don't know. None of you guys use folders on your docs, right?. Okay.. Do you know how like you can name folder?s you we're wit, we've done this before and we've done it. But so in the dock it doesn't show app names anyways. Yeah. But inside a folder, you name folders and it shows up on the bottom, right Like I, mine ch's up on top but y say. Okay. I don't want it to say anything. Yeah. but if you do nothing, it still it pour uses space. It uses something. so you have to put a space in. But every time I open the folder, I can accidentally click that and then it brings the keyboard up, which I ain't trying to do. justust let me not name it. So give me hidden folder names. I'll text also please. Thank you. would That would be life changing. I'llxt Michell I already lost my place because I was mad about that. No, you're good. It was Oh yeah, and then there's okay There's a new resize bar and split screen that gives you arrow, so you can kind of tick it up in You know, like if you want to go like seventy thirty, it'll help it do that steps instead. Nice. I thought that was really cool.'s useful I love this one. Separate Wiifi and mobile data tabs in quick settings Oh wow. so good. I like used to have that before. I know. them. All these things I'm excited about just were what it used to be. Yeah. But it was so annoying if you wanted to disable Wiifi for only mobile. You just have to interect into O one of the worst changes they ever made. The first two things I did when I downloaded it this morning was at a glance and get mobile data as a separate quick setetting. Yeah. Yeah, it's nice. It feels so good. Yeah. There's a new screen recorder. There's just a lot of UI updates with this that the quick setetting now it kind of like brings up a bubble that is the screen recorder rather than like leaving you in quick setettings as you leave with a couple different options. It now defaults back to entire screen instead of singular app, which mostost people want to do. There's new toggles for recording audio from device and microphone. There's separate toggles, which is really nice. You can change settings during the recording. and like if you want to enable taps halfway through your recording, you can go in and enable show taps. That's nice. And when you're done recording, there's just a new screen that lets you click edit, which will bring you into photos that it is already Or you can just delete the video straight up there if you decide you don't like it anyore. Oh cool, which is nice nice. We just talked about Apple parental changes last week There's some new ones for Android as well. A lot of them are very similar. You can set screen amount time per day. You can create downtime schedules, so it can lock a children's device at night. There are app store filters based on content ratings you know, like mature everyone, all those it kind of has a list of those. You can limit time on specific apps or block apps entirely. and then through Family link, you can do things that we just saw the like school time, app approvals and approved contacts All great. Okay. I think that's kind of my list of things that got me excited I thought it was really crazy that Michelle, someone we've talked about is like a Google leaker or just a reporter for so long, just straight up as a mega threat on Android right now and saying like These are the changes we made. It's like Okay, That's pretty awesome you're at Google now, but here's a mega thread on the R Android Reddit that says everything. and I also watched a really good video from in depth tech reviews of all the little visual changes. I mean, things he was catching were like This pop upp now has an ex out of it. I did it before and he's showing sixteen and seventeen again each other. Or like monochrome theme mode. now all the darkers are like more dark Things I would never guess, but that's cool. Just shout out to them. I enjoyed recapping all of that this morning becausecause I was too busy stomping on at a glanceces greve. parade around the house being like, Let's going, let's going, let's go Let's go. Laine's like, I don't know what you I got one more thing I want to share. That's actually a video I want to play for you guys, but I'm just gonna to play the audio and I want to get your reaction to it. Okay. This sound you're about to hear is from the all new twenty twenty seven Porsche Taikan, which has added E shhift, they are the newest electric car company to add fake gear shifts when you paddle shift. So it's like an eight speed simulated gears. The Tykan already made sounds, but now this is what your Ticcan will sound like in twenty twenty seven As a non car person that does nothing to me? I don't I don't get it I'm not against this. When you drive A quiet car. This is such a specific question, but like why Why are we Maybe this iss just a sign of the times. Wh are we emulating Gas car things. It seems insulting to emulate a gas car with such an obviously fake sound when It's obviously electric, like it doesn't have the same emotion as a gas car, It doesn't have the vibrations of a gas car. L is this Does it not give you vibrations? No, not really, not really I think it could beat like Why not own it you can And the taken kind of did this before. I still never know if I'm pronouncing that right, by the way. so someone light me up in the Thankks for the engagement Like, didn't they have different sounds? Just make fun sounds. You can do whatever you want. your choices Yeah. Gas car. Yeah, they have sound before. It was very like spaceshipy. famamously actually, the Taikan is one of the loudest electric cars on the outside. I can hear Taikans driving around in my neighborhood because they just have this this like sound that they play on the outside. and it's fine But they're never trying to sound like a gas car specifically. You might remember we had the Ionic five N here that did this or we had that the electric dodge charger here that didn't do the gear shift but it had a gas car emulating speaker sound. And my theory is that this is very much going to be a sign of the times specifically when electric cars are not really popular yet Car companies are trying to make them as familiar as possible to people who like gas cars by emulating gas cars. And this is one of the things that they're doing is like, oh yeah, you can fake gear shift and it kind of sounds like your gas car even though it's Obviously not I gas cars. The people that wanted to I have nothing against the sound of gas cars. I understand, but that usually is like there's something involved in all of that that's like piece of machinery making that. too emulate it, the people who like that piece of machinery just the sound. they want the whole orchestra playing of everything and like I just I also think we're far enough at EV's that we don't need to bring people over by being like, look, it sounds like your car. I think there's so many other think don't I think they feel like they have to just because they're not. flying off they're not flying off the shelves. they they're try find new ways to brink to make them. because there's lots of other, I almost made an autofocus video about this, but there's lots of other features that EV manufacturers will add that are specifically to mimic people who are this is their first electric car. So when you take your foot off the accelerator I think makes sense. And it coasts instead of regenning, that's to mimic a gas car. When you're sitting at a stoplight And you take your foot off the brake and your car starts to creep forward.ate That is a gas car thing. It doesn't have to happen in an electric car, but they will add torque and actually start to roll you forward to mimic again. Why would they do that? 'Cause that's what people are familiar tearw away. way the good things that electric exactic cars I will say the coasting off the brake When you go from a gas car to your first time in an EV car, you feel like a new driver because you're just like like yeah jerking phone getting used to it. I like that was the thing that I thought Tesla did really well is they just threw all that stuff out. Like back in the day, they were like, yeah, there's regen. Get used to it. It's more efficient and it addssedals driving. It's better. when one pedal driving instead of pedals. you almost never use fictionrakes. it's awesome And it doesn't it'd have creep mode, but like that's off by default And there's no power button in the car Yeah. You just get in and it's on. Yeah. Like all these cars now have like an on button, even though it's just like a it's an iPad. likeike you just getting it's on. So they're we go in the complete other direction. If they're going to do these sounds, I want to clutch I want a manual faceedal. go all in. This is pretty close to all in. This is paddle shifting. There's no third pedal, but like it's not the same I mean, you want to redline it and lose clut and lose torque. Does anyone have a fake clutch? Yeah? I don't think so. You could do e clutch give them ideas. How would you do that? Go all in. At that point, you're just why even I mean, all of these are why why every single. Wh are you buying an electric car in the first place? If you want to clutch. That's true. If you want to clutch, we already have Jalen Bronson humaby Youan cat. Oh o so gyic. I do feel like All the EV's are basically like Right now the selling point is this will totally drive itself or like this makes fake gas noises. It's just like Yeah. What if they just drive well That last like a pretty long we should just need to educate people on the fact that all of these EV features are good for your life and they're enjoyable to use. Yeah. I think they my the way I've described it has always been that there are certain types of cars that are best to go electric. Because when you make a car electric, what happens? It gets bigger, it gets heavier more expensive, but also gets smoother torqukier and more powerful and quieter than ever Okay, so then any car that is already big and heavy and you want to be smooth and quiet Perfect. Yeah. Escalade. M SUVs Big sedans, like all those When they went electric, it was the best version of that car that had ever been made. Although isn't isn't the whole thing with the Sclade that it's super freaking loud I that's just the escalade V specifically. But the escalades you see in Manhattan that are all like Uber black. Yeah That's the best escalade ever now is is the. That's just like this is a Yuon, but I can charge way more money for putting people in the back. Yeah So sports cars are the worst possible car to go electric. even th I feel like that's what people would want Well, it's a really good method of propulsion and I'm getting into the easeray, but like it's you get all your torque right away. It's like very quick and a straight line and a lot of the world records for acceleration are by electric cars People want a lightweight sports car. They want an engaging sports car. They want a small sports car And none of these things are really the upside of electric cars. Yeah So yeah Yeah. J they're trying stuff like figure shit. Yeah. Just as someone who doesn't really care about cars that much. Obviously like the look of a porch is still very, very nice looking I would love for electic car This will convince a non zero number of people to get a taikam. we'll see how it goes. We'll see how that goes. Yeah ye. probablyrobably one. Well, it looks better than the Ferrari. So that's all we got to say. By the way, I had a question that I meant to ask on our Ferrari episode when we talked about the what is it called? the Lu? Do you know why they called it the Lu Nobody explains Italian for, let me findn this. Are this lightate Im a I believe show Light, yes, correct. I'm a about the light. I mean sorry. ait isn't it heaverough, because it'sy Oh, that's actually kind of pun. I don't know if you're joking or not, but I think they mean like light they had this very light of God There's like a very marketing of like they're doing it because this is like the light. I actually didn't say the light at the end of the tunnel of where we're going to, but light at the end of the tunnel is usually what you see before you die whichich was a really funny thing aftering That the worst looking Ferrari ever. Yeah. I think it was more of a just a like lights are electric, like this is the The electrical Okay I can see like an Italian it meaning light. I can see that just being a cool name But I just wanted to know because it sounded more like a Loutador, you know, And I was like if you've looked back at other Ferrari names, I mean, they're an Italian company and they have extremely Italian names for other models. Okay. They recently came out with a twelve cylinder car And so they named that Ch' Sindry That's the name of the car. It's the twelve cylinder. Yeah So the Uurus. That's Lamorghini. I mean, that's also Italian, but yeah, yeah. The amalfi. They just said the lightight towards of the cach and innovation The amalfi not end of the tongue.. True. 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Check responses setup required compatibility and availability varies eighteen plus Alli, welcome We are going to quickly T talk about the UK social media ban because we got tagged on a lot of places to ask about this, but We live in the US. So I don't have too much to say about it. so I quickly wrote down what I saw We'll get a couple thoughts, but Okay Children under the age of sixteen will be banned using social media platforms like Tikok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and X. I believe this is supposed to be happening by next spring Um, messaging apps like WhatsApp and Signal are not part of that. There will be doing possibly curfews for children under eighteen that would require breaks at nighttime to stop infinite scrolling Ways to prevent children there will hopefully also or in their eyes, hopefully be ways to prevent children under sixteen from talking to people on online games. And the UK said in a statement that the policy will go further than any other country in restricting children's on time online. One of the reasons they said this was because They claim Big teech has had multiple opportunities to try and protect children, but they have failed. So that's why they're taking this on. I mean, yeah. they're not wrong on that. Yeah. it's just Generally when we see stuff like this, the problem is is a lot of government officials just don't really understand the internet. Yeah. So We have Two separate forms People that understand completely different things, we have capitalists who want to make as much money as possible I don't care how old you are, I don't care what you do. As long as you spend time on app, I make money. Yeah. That's never gonna be for us. Andrew Manganlli, twenty twenty six. And then you have government officials who are attempting to protect, but generally probably pretty ignorant about all of this going. Yeah. ye Yeah, I have so many thoughts about this. This is always a very nuanced topic. Anytime you bringing your kids into the equation, it's always such a nuanced topic because it's like, obviously we want to protect the kids. Oviously there's a lot of cyberblling. Oviously there's a lot of bad stuff that kids can get into online and that predators can, you know, access children easily and whatever. That's all bad But like, what? Yeah. and I know. And it's really hard to have this conversation without people screaming at you because it's very, very nuanced. But and we were having this conversation a little bit off the show, but Why is YouTube included here Yeah, I I'm maybe biased. I started I started on YouTube when I was fifteen But YouTube was a very different place back then. Yes. And social media was a very different place back then. And we mentioned like the infinite scrolling thing, which is I think mostly What this gets at, which is like the addictiveness of a lot of these platforms and how much time it makes people spend online. Do that makes a lot of sense My angle though on YouTube is like, okay, YouTube Does that mean you just straight up can't access YouTube if you're under the age of sixteen and they have to add some sort of a paywall? orr does that just mean you can't have an account? in which case, you're logged out and will get recommended way more insane. Eactly what Hank Greene said and I thought it was really It's a good point. Obvious take is like ye. Yeahah, you won't be able to make an account, but you can probably still log on to just YouTube with no account watch things and now the recommendations are all over the place. you actually will lose restrictions that people could possibly put on it. Yeah.. Reionally could they make that an option where you have to have an account? If you would have to log in, ye they could do that. They could force that. Possibly. It's all a big question. Um, yeah, I don't know. I mean, You know the movie Backroooms that came out recently? I have not seen it. I only know about it because of you guys. I haven't seen it, but the director is twenty years old and he made his first short when he was seventeen And all of that came from like a creepy pasta that he like read online and was part of a community of people that were contributing to these horror stories. And that to me is a representation of The value that the internet and social media has brought to youth these days where They have so much access to creativity and learning at a very young age, right? Like when we were kids, Yeah, Google was like so new and the idea of going on a forum and like finding answers to things was brand new. And so the speed at which we could learn that was very walled off by our access our ability to access information And the two sided coin, the like two sided to faceage The double sword of all of this is like yes. The benefit of infinite information is infinite information and you can get young, young, young people creating like amazing things because their brains are sponges and they soak up information way faster than us thirty year olds do. on the other side of that coin, Unlimited information and unlimited all types of information. It's not learning it's not all learning information. It's not all educational. A lot of it's really bad. a lot of it's porn. a lot of it is just like thingsings that kids with brains that are not good at tuning like filtering out what's good content versus bad content and you know, what their dopamine receptors respond to. That's what makes All of these incredibly complex topics. Yeah I always like to advocate for like some sort of built into education, like internet literacy. I kind of remember a little of that when I was growing up, like learning how to Google things. I don't remember what age it was or what class it was, but like explaining that if you put no col in, then you could like, o right, exclude words from your Google search where if you put them in quotes, then it will have to appear in that order and stuff like that. like how search Google and then filter through your results and find primary sources versus secondary sources. All of that when I'm writing a paper. I had to learn all of that. And I wonder because I'm not in school and I don't have a kid, like how's that going? Are people is it just out of control? Like there's AI, there's all sorts of It changes in the way that you find information on the interternet, and it's just like, how do we teach kids how to navigate the internet? Maybe it's too hard. We just ban social media until they turn sixteen. Maybe that's the solution It feeles kind of heavy handed to me, but again, I don't have a kid, so I don't know Itound I feel like all of us here can probably talk about our own success stories as being children of the internet and what we did back then. But like you said, it is so much different. in my high school years with how like overly like conscious I was of thinking everyone was always I can't imagine that day and age now with social media where we're all posting stuff and we're all commenting on people's things. I could text like two people after eight PM because that's when I didn't have to pay for text messages. Now anyone can make comments and group chats and everything. 's it's an age that I don't understand quite as well. I don't know if this is exactly how to do it. I'm glad people are trying to find it, but it really feels like most of this is on If you're on the companies, but I do also like these things like we just saw from Apple and Google of like enanced parental controls so the parents can make individual choices for their kids. a little more nuanced. Yeah Yeah. I was just gonna to say, I don't think that everyone is dreaming for legislation for this. The companies didn't rise to the occasion. No So this is we on solution. It reminds me of when when the UK was like, USB type C, iPhone, do it now. And we're like, rememember the EU. sorry, the EU Thank. 'causeuse the UK is Yeah. So the EU and this was like Okay, this one Piece of legislisation makes sense here and it's going to advance it. And there's no downsides here. So obviously it feels heavy handed, but it's actually going to work and we all benefit from it But yeah, this is there's so many different factors in the way people engage with the internet and all the different parts of the internet that you know, it's possible that this feels like the most complete or safe solution to the UK, but it is just the UK. I think they need to just enforce like Just like the EU forced USBC, they forced removal batteries and a lot of devices, they need to force insanely like powerful parental controls, and they need to educate people on that Because I agree a thirteen year old should absolutely not be on X. com one hundred percent. I don't think a thirty year should not be on X. com. There's so much stuff on there you should not be looking at. And u I don't know, I just it kind of feels to me like stopping access at an individual level is a much smarter way to control this kind of stuff because Also A lot of the time when governments institute large sweeping bans on things, they always use kids as like a fake agenda and slip a bunch of like privacy nightmare stuff underneath. I don't know if that's the case with this one, but it happens a lot. Yeah. I don't knowK governance very well, but I would not trust the US with regulating any of this. Yeah. I will also say on YouTube, there's I just maybe' YouTube pilled, but there's so much good stuff. I know. I remember in high school like feeling like I'm falling behind on a class and then looking up on YouTube and finding Sal and watching him teach me the same stuff that the teacher couldn't and actually learning and catching back up in class. That was YouTube Mine was if fourthalling behind in class. I'm not gonna to pass it anyway, so I might as well watch some stuff on YouTube. That's the other gu on YouTube There's gotta be some sort of stuff you gotta have it all. Yeah gota have it all. And this is why I use the backrooms example because like that kid couldould not have made that short. they got eight million views or no eighty million views And then you know made a movie with a major studio that made just as much money as a Star Wars movie You know, it that That just couldn't have happened. Also He did a bunch of like three D modeling and effects. I guarantee you, he learned all of those skills on YouTube. Y. Tialorial's I started all the tutorial videos you watch. And he was seventeen when he put when he put his first short out. So he wouldn't have been able to learn those skills when he was sixteen. You know what I mean? So It I don't know, it's tough It's just tough becausecause for every success story, there's also the story of someone getting abducted or someone being groomed or someone thinking about self harm from all these things. So there's there are all of those things out sure. We're not trying to diminish that No. I do think YouTube is the one example of like, maybe it's less of that because it's less of a Personal unless you are physically uploading a lot of videos, it's much less so Instagram where you're like, this is all of my life. But this is also why every time we talk about social media I wear they don't. think of YouTube as the same social media as Instagram they feel like personal pages Yeah. Yeah, maybe ban uploading the YouTube before a certain age. That is probably good. I would agree with that Yeah. because every time I see like like a a video from a kid that gets uploaded and everyone like comments like, yeay, this is awesome. G like I don'tost really like this. I don't want supposted to auto detect when there's a kid doesn't allow comments or something. There's all these things are supposed to happen when it audio detects that it's a child account. It doesn't always work either. Yeah Yeah. well, Speaking of bands, last week, we talked about how Anthropic released the model that they said was too dangerous to release classic So They did that for a hot two days, maybe three Uh and then sort of out of nowhere. It got banned by the US government So this is very unny in a way becausecause Dario has constantly just been like, regulate us, regulate us, regulate us, and then they regulated them and then they're like,. So there's that. However, as usual, the way that the U.S government went about banning this was extremely short notice and something that there was just no way that they could possibly fix because the administration's problem with it was that they didn't want foreign nationals, including anthropic employees to be able to access the model. in the US or outside the US. Yeah,esally if you werere foreign We don't want you to use it, which is just N I wish I was kidding. Just classic You even enforce them You can't. this is why they turned the model off. They had to turn the model completely off because they thought that was the only way they could actually that Yeah. And it seems like the reasoning behind it is because of some concerns of essentially jailbreaking it, which would bypass a bunch of the different restrictions and things they had on it because it kept finding potential cybersecurity risks and all that. so they're trying to avoid all of. There were a lot of funny memes around Mythos because they specifically like or sorry, not Mythos, fable. Fable fiveable is a distill' down version of mythos withoma guardils Gardrails. Wait, can I say something really fast That's not really Everyone kept talking about Fable five and I thought a new version of Fable the game came out because it was all of the things I saw of it were like three D renders and stuff. like Oh I remember that game. And then I realized how wrong I was. Okay, well, one of the major restrictions on Fable five over mythos was that you can't talk about biology Obviously they were doing this because they didn't want people to make weapons, like bioeapons and stuff But there were a lot of funny memes where someone was like, My dog is not feeling well. What should I do? And it's just like you've been reported to the Fed of the FBI. Anyway funny. There's a you know, there are AI reporters that are way better at handling these detailed things. Hayden Field over at the Verge did a really amazing article about this called Inside The Fight Over Claude Mythos five. You should definitely go read that Very complex. it seems that they have been going to Washington trying to work with the U. S. government and try to figure out a way to find a path forward. They went last week. They did not find a path forward So Yeahah, in the next few days, I guess we'll see if they can. This This was still banned at the time of recording. Yeah. apparently it was tipped off to the US government by some Amazon researchers, which is I think at AWS at AWS, which is both Ironic and interesting at the same time because Amazon is a major investor in anthrop. Um, but also You know Did' foil hat time Amazon could have some high incentive to make it so Mythos could only be accessed through AWS and they could go to the government and say, anyway I don't I don't torow I don't want to throw conspiracy theoryiesap. Iess if they're scared of cyberse security attacks, AWS would be a major target and they don't want. Yeah, probably that too. Also, Andrew, you're not crazy. There was actually a fable gameplay demo that came out last week. When was there Really? Yeah because someone el was tellld me about it. so you're not Is it fable five If it was also five, that would be. I think they' really funny. It might have been. Whatever the newest one is, I don't know. By the way, I haven't paid attention. Nobody really knows why Anthrobic called this Fable five because it's the first fable model But they called it five. I've given up on guessing AI models head start. Sinces Nano Banana, I don't care about it. WhatI pro powered by personal intelligence So anyway, As of timem recording, that is still banned. We'll see if that changes in the coming days Uh yeah. So that's that's about it for the news this week So now we're going to do the thing that we always do the end J just give me trivia points. We don't always do that. Unfortunately, quick update on the score. Mark Hz with twenty eight, Andrew with twenty six and David with thirty one Question one Snap has launched multiple things under the Snapchat U umbrella, But which of these is not real? A Snapchat Apple Watch app B, snap cache, C, snap code or D snap tracks with an X, of course because it's t is if Did we all assume he meant with an X when he said it out loud I thought of it one hundred percent. What does it do again beat maker. It is a mini beat machine app inside of Snapchat egnd I thought it att tracked you. That Oh it does. That's the thing in Snapschhat It does Find my No What is it called? Snaps? Is it Snapmaps? Yeah. Well, fllip themem and read. What do you got? We also the same. also also says the Apple watchatch Yeah Incorrect, there is a Snapchat Apple Watch app. What did it do?? No idea. Was it tracks? It wasnap tracks. Damn it. Was it really? I wrote tracks and crossed it out Man, um Interesting. Wow. Does it just Do the Apple Watch app just allow you to like remotely shutter? Is that what it was for? That seems like the I think it's saying it could possibly do. According to Google AI overview It is an official watchOS application designed to supplement messaging on the go I bought Claire a pair of Crocs for Mother'sdayay, and they're too small. So I wanted to return them, but she didn't tell me they were too small till like way too late. She's too nervous. So I went on AI overview and went, what's the croc return policy? And it said forty five days. So I'm trying to return them and nothing's coming up to return them. So I get on the chat and I'm constantly just telling this guy there's just no way's like that's because our windows thirty days, it's past thirty days And then I just closed the jack because I was so embarrassed. wentent to the overview where it said forty five days again, click the link and the link just brings you to a page that says thirty days on. What? It' just made it up. It's so funny that it constantly sources its incorrect information. Yeah. source, I made it out. Source is source. It's just a page. It says trust me, Brad. Trust me R That's Google's new tag line. We need Internet literacy. I would like to teach an interternet literacy class please What if we made like a high school level like here just how navigate the internet? We shouldt make one for the studio channel Its like you could like volunteer at a library and do that If we make one for YouTube, people in the UK under sixteen wouldn't be able to watch it.ing. I feel like you have to teach a physical class like in person like everybody go to google d. com and ask it a question. All right, see how you got an AI overview? All right, here's what we're gonna to do. Scroll down. Anyway, okay Go to Wikipedia. So the second question is codeenames used to be used, let's see? For Android Codatings used to be used a whole How did you word this? Sorry, I'm having a stroke. It's too wor Codenames are a thing with Android, but they're not really as popular I guess anymore. and this is me abbreviating Okay, what is the codename What is the codename of Android seventeen? S moase God. somebody tell me. Meet hook. I want you to come in and summarize every question. I wish I don't even know I don't know sixteen either. Is it a dessert still? Yeah. It probably is. S think of okay. It weird logical, What letter would it be so It would be cute, right? No, we already We passed you along. Oh. Then they didn't go alphabetically. No, they did. yeah, 'use it wass huge I don't even know we' on I don't even know where we are. David, that spelling is Inane All right, what do you got David? Can you read that for me? H just No read what you wrote. Th is letters G Wh are you trying to buublicly embarrass me right now T I E R R E I M E M I S S E U T T Miss you. That cannot be heard That's not You know I don't I don't know if I can spell it right, but I don't think it's like a French word. You could be spelled anyway I like the spirit but that's not as' French. Andrew. It's your Mus' right Andrew m that. I put jello. I was thinking about jell jelly Bean? Do you remember jellybean Is jello a jell like no jelly bean. I thought we were on tea. That's why I did Tiaramasu. But I think that was sixteen was Tiaramasu And Ng get Oh Nug it was al long last time ago. And then Oreo h. We're on seventeen Q is the seventeenQ was play alphab that, right Hgh was to Yeah, cQ R R was Red velvet cake S. Wait, are we on reded velvet cake? What do you have? Maybe that was Stalal Itsal. I have mythosis I just made it the name. It's Stral, right Yeah. Wait, can you tell us the first letter? Okay, I dido. You're not gonna like it. Well, is it S or T? It's C. It's C. What? I't it' in order anymore. There is no shock. we all wait wait can we all guess? Can we have Fbg with C? What do you think? That's a great guess. What is it with C? I don't know what do you think? Okay it's a to's to C. We I had a couple like a decade ago I'm going with cupcake two Cowcake two, electric boom with chaly milk. C two Why did they do this? Could I complain to Michelle? I'm talking you about so many things today Bug reportaws. Watch this episode and be like, I'm never talking to you again. No know, he'll be mad about this too. coden nameame for Android seventeen. C Those are both so much better than mine. I bet creme brulet I like wear your heads out. Damn. Markzing go first. I wrote Cpe That's also a good one.. I just wrote cookie, I've been watching too much sesame stet with like cie cookie What is it? Any other final cupcakes chu Cupcaes three. Cupcaes three cupca It's apparently c fresh. It's Cinnamon bun actually I'm not even that upset. Why did they do that? It has nothing to do with the old naming. I like Sinamon Mths too, Well sure. What does it have to do with seventeen How is it seven seventeen and werere all the way through the alphabet already? No. They just Andrewid know the first they just got rid of the official names. But then they kept going with the codeenames underneath. Yeah, but what did the first what was the first one? Well, alphab Beta, whatever didn't really have names. Cupcake, donut, Eclire, Froyo, gingerbread was my first was cucake No, well, three was. Well, it was like three dou something. Yeah. Yeah, but it was time which It was the first one they started using the. Wait, how many? Okaykay? What did we skip s about. cupcake, donoughnut, eclair, Froo, gingerbread. Wait, what about by H Hanico Ginger, honeycomb ice cream sand, jelly bean, kit Katat, lemon loollipop. Lollipop. loollipop Mhm Oh M And marshmallowars Marshmallow, N get, N get Oreo Oreo. Pi, pi, Q, Q. And that was it Or we hadn ant arready. They stopped at Que I mean technical, look

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