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From WeWatchWrestling Issue #666 — Jun 17, 2026
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Hey , do you watch wrestling Watch Bris . Greetings, salutations. Well there, welcome friends and foes, heels and baby face all are welcome . Whoa there . It's the place to be . I'm a wonderful darling, redheaded bearded host wrestling Matt McCarthy with me, always no one . Vince is still on assignment. It's very important work that he's doing , and I just wish that you people would support him God God , I'm sick of all this Vince hate . Go to rewatch wrestling on Patreon , all bonus audio video needs you, could be watching a video of me right now in my office alone . Alone . That's for all my guns and roses fans out there . And weekly Q and A weekly point five , we got to hang last week. I was in Denver , Colorado . Ever heard of it ? And I was I spent a lot of time talking about the comment section on TikTok and Instagram videos . But that's not what we're here for right now. We're here for God's greatest No , the king of sports , God's greatest . See, I started convolating, convoluting, convuls . I started combining Harley Race the greatest wrestler on Godscreen Earth with his gimmick being King of the Ring , the King ofort Sps , you understand what happened . Anyway, here we are . I'm excited. I've been watching all the wrestling , all of it , everything that happened , I watched it . I don't know why it just popped in my head Like Ray Mysterio was on Undertaker's podcast. Did you see this or at least hear about it ? And basically Undertaker forced Ray Mysterio to bury CML , or at least Undertaker pretended he didn't know what Arena Mexico was, you know, obviously he knows I didn't hear it. I just, you know , I can't think of anything worse than undertakers pot I does under like Like it's one the undertaker has a podcast. It's so beyond the scope. Like undertakers the guy . It's so funny that he has a podc ast because he's like the poster boy for Oh you listening to your internet Go outside Well, his son is on Twitch . We've seen these clips, right Tell me you've seen Takeer Jr playing video games on Twitch . It's actually it's the greatest. Hopefully he has completely rebelled against his old man and it's just like , you know , I love everybody . I hate wrestling . I just want to play video games, but I mean it's just you know what I mean? Like Taker is just if I don't care like people can be whoever they want to be or whoever they actually are or whoever they're not, you know , my hands are clean of this one. I swear to God, but I'm just saying wouldn't it be nice if undertaker had just stayed undertaker ? We all feel this. I've said this before , but I mean my God to just slide into this grand Torrino old man gimmick woof woof, but yeah, I don't know . I mean, look, I get it. He runs AAA, which is also insane just twenty twenty six, the year of insane statements . If we could go back in time to the night after the Montreal screw job and have told Casey Corbyn and Mark Callaway that at thirty thirty years from now . He'll host a podcast and run A Oh my God . Even in terms, even in nineteen ninety seven terms to be like , you're gonna host a radio show . It makes no sense . I don't know why I mean, as I say this on a podcast , I don't know why everything has to be a podcast or I don't know why everyone it's just it's one of those things where I'm just like it's more of the interv iew thing where I'm like especially comedians, I don't know, I just see them like this is why I love doing this because it's just me and Vince talking. I mean at least like what I'm doing VHS tapes are mag ic . I want it I just want to know I just want I 'm making the podcast I want to hear and I just want to hear about video stores and VHS collect ions, movie collections and all that shit . But like when I scroll through my feed and I see I don't know , not so much wrestlers anymore , but I mean undertaker Cody There's really not I mean, you know, Kabana hung it up . So there's not like a you know, guest driven , you know, wrestling version of WTF anymore outside of WW content . I mean maybe AW does it and I don't know . I just see clips of Renee interviewing people, but I don't think that's a podcast. I think that it' justs her . I don't know I really don't care . It's just it's odd to me. And then especially with like comedians , like interviewing guests, I'm just I don't know. There's something there's a clip where Charles Groden was on Johnny Carson and Groden his gimmick was always that he was kind of like the anti guest or pushed back against Johnny in a way that other guests didn't . He was a difficult guess but in the spirit of like Johnny loved it . Just taking a sip of water. Sip of water for the working man . And Groden says, Well, you don't really care what I have to say . And Johnny Garson goes, not really . And he's like, I'm just looking for warm bodies. That's the way some of these interviews feel to me. Especially some of the comedi ans I'm just like I don't know, man, it's just you got to talk to everybody. I mean, at least the wrestlers are talking to other wrestlers , but it is it's odd like you know You know, Cody , God bless him. It feels like he is by and large just interviewing his friends, which feels more of hang than you know forced horseshit . I don't even know anymore. Does Jericho still have a podcast? Talk is Jericho. How come we don't sing talk is Jericho baby ? When he's standing in the ring. That'd be better . Judason, Judason, my talk is Jericho Baby . That'd be much better . It'd be more honest of us because let's face it talk is Jericho . I don't know what to think of him and Tomaso Champa Baby Face Jericho's an odd ask , you know ? It's not as bad as Roddy Piper . Babyface Roddy Piper in WW F Bruceutal . You know what I was watching is the Halloween episode Prime Time where Bobby Heathen dresses as the genius and, Gorilla Mont soon dresses as Oh God . I'm so sorry. I yawned and it's because I leaned back. My body was like, Oh, are we chilling? I need another sip of water . I fear I'm going to lose my voice. When I did that point five last week, it was God, what day was it ? It was Saturday, wasn't it? Jesus Christ . I'd done seven shows . That was insane. We did a show Wednesday night in Aspen , which is Aspen a lot folks , the altitude is disgusting in Aspen . It's revolted. You should be ashamed of yourselves . I'm talking about a little place called As pin . And then Denver , Thursday, Friday, Saturday, two shows every night . And God bless, Pete, Pete's doing over an hour each show . So he was talking for close to eight hours , but I felt my voice getting tired during that point five. And then tonight I started recording. I did the intro and I was like I did the watch . And I was like, holy shit, I don't have any water in here . You know, their big believers in Colorado is Rakola . So take that C,esarao . Caesaro, I Baldio I How did I get under that ? I don't know, but at least Cody feels like he's at least talking to his buddies . I mean, at least the one where it was him and Zack Rider, that's for sure . But Jericho and Tomaso Champa, I don't know, it's tough. Oh yeah. So the Primetime The Halloween episode, Girlamontsun was dressed as brother love love I kept the word blood came into my mind. I was supposed to be like brother blood. What ? Now I'm picturing Gangrell but with the brother love makeup on I love you . Let me drink you blood . I oh so Roddy Piper . The episode ends because Roddy Piper is dressed. He's in a different studio . He's in the he's on the set of the Bobby Heenan Show, I think . I don't know . But God damn , babyface Rody Pidper, it was a big ask . It was so uncomfortable . And this was a great example of it. He because he's still like he doesn't know what to do. It feels like Jericho's like that sometimes do, especially on Wednesday when he's just like, what is your name? Tommy , Tommy Knocker , Tom Tomato , Bald . You know It was, obviously, it was Halloween . So Piper did this thing where he's like , he starts screaming at Bobby Heen to shut up . And it's like there's it's the most real Roddy Piper gets on TV . You know , like I who knows what the guy was actually like , you know, when the cameras were off, when he was off and he's just talking . But like he kind of turned into that really low talking serious Roddy Piper that you would see in shoot interviews or like on you know polit, ically incorrect or whatever , where he's just like it even felt like when I got his autograph he started veering in that direction where he's just like uncomfortably serious, you know? He didn't really he didn't make me uncomfortable when we met about House of Hardcore . It's one of my favorite moments of all time, but it was just he just gets this, you know you know, I got to get real serious now for a second . Hey, little kids, here's what you're going to do and he starts giving like after he screwed because like it's he's got this weird I mean God rest his soul. He's probably my favorite wrestler of all time, you know I don't know, I can't decide. I do love Bill Edi though . Um he's he 's got this kind of , you know emotionally unstable dad thing going where like he screams and then he gets real serious but it's like it's hard to take him seriously because you're you're so shook from the screaming . And then he just starts going on and on about the do's and don'ts of trick or treating . And it's like clearly he I think it's genuine . Roddy Piper I genuinely think was a good guy , a decent guy who really cared about kids . You know, he certainly had enough of them that he , you know, how many kids did he had? He had a bunch of kids, I think . Maybe not as many as Tony Shivanni, but like a bunch . I mean, Tony Shivani had so many kids that this is one of the all time great Arners Andon quotes. He saw all the Tony's kids, and he said to him, God damn Tony, you got enough come to shampoo a buffalo which just really paints a picture . And the dos and don'ts for trick or treating her, you know , um , you know, you're not gonna go into anybody's house. You don't go into anybody's house . You just stand there and you say, please and you say thank you . And you're going to wear something neon . You're gonna wear a reflector because there's idiots driving around and they're gonna run you over . I mean, it's just it's this you know look, obviously it's important to help kids not get kidnapped or run over or poisoned with Halloween candy . But I think I think statistically , the likelihood of those things happening is small , you know? I don't think any kid has ever been poisoned by Halloween candy or at least you know, if it did happen, it was so it was by somebody that they knew or somebody in their family . You know, it's like with kidnappings. Most kidnappings are , you know, a family member does it . I don't know, look, I'm talking out of my ass. I don't know. I'm talking anecdotally about things I half remember from like bowling for columbine . I don't know , but I don't know, wearing a neon vest around your Halloween costume has to be the lamest advice I've ever heard. Did anybody ever do that? Do you have any recollection of seeing a Dork ? I'll say it. Roddy Piper's dead. What's he gonna do to me? A Dork wearing neon over there like wolf man costume . I mean, maybe if you're going as you know what's his name Leelan? No, not Leeland Cleveland No Emmett from the Lego mov ie , then you can wear your reflector , I don't know . Then again, I'm a kid who grew up in the eighties. We thought kids who wore bicycle helmets were dorks too . So maybe the joke's on me . But it's just the switch in Roddy where he just be like , You're going to take that candy home. You're going to give it to your mom and your dad . And they're going to look at it . And then you're gonna and then he starts getting happy and almost whimsical . He's like, and you're gonna go, you're gonna have a lot of fun . You're gonna have a real good time with your friends and you know, you're gonna have yourself a happy Halloween . Mind you, he's doing all this with like a painted nose and whiskers on his cheeks because he's a weasel for Halloween because he's making fun of fucking Poppy Hean . Bobby Heenan who as the genius has like a painted stubble beard on like he's a hobo so So fucking funny . I can't wait for Halloween. It's only one hundred and thirty plus days away can't get here soon enough. Doo doo doo Red Robin . Oh quick shout out. I was trying hopefully you listen to the show still .body Some had sent me a Rick Rude figure and then needed it back and they sent me the message on Instagram and I can't really find the message I had the figure set to the side, but I can't find you or your address in my DMs. So just DM me again if you hear this . So I can send you your thing . Uh dynamite . How fucking great is Orange Cassidy When Androti pulled off his pants, his own pants . imagine if this was a radio show and like somebody just tuned in right now. That experience is pretty lost. I guess unless it's a sporting event or wrestling, you know, anything that's live live sip of water for the working man but two tune into this show and just hear me say, you know, when Androidi pulled his pants off , that was amazing. That's what people think wrestling is the people who are like homophobic . They're like O Twist is Dick It's been so long since I've been in a wrestling show and heard somebody scream Twist is dick It'll happen again . You know, people always talk about , you know , there's there's that day when you rode your bike home and you put it in the garage or behind your house and you didn't know it at the time , but that was the last time you were ever going to ride your bike , you know, or some even more sick people mockish maudlin pieces of shit . They'll say the same thing, but even more demented. They're like there's there's gonna be a day when you pick up your kid and that's the last time you ever pick your kid up and you don't know it at the time , but that was the last time you ever picked up your kid. And it's like shut the fuck up you are so desperate . You are so desperate for fucking for attention, for clicks , for likes for people in the comments to be like I wish I'd known that when my daddy picked me up that one last time it'll be the last time he picked me up shut the fuck up . That said , I have my door open. The screen is closed, but I have my door open and I just heard an animal walking through the back . Not one of my animals . The dog and the cats are inside. This was a probably raccoon . Probably smells my sunflower seeds . Fuck off . Somebody has suggested I think in the discord that I switch from David 's to spitz , less sodium, better flavors . And ironically , Glennis and Jack had gotten me like a small sleeve of sp that was like a spicy lemon lemon which is pretty good but it kind of kind of gave me like a like a salt hickey on my tongue. I can't even think of what they're called . But at any rate , the day is coming and maybe that day has already happened for all of us . Where that's the last time you'll ever hear somebody at a wrestling show scream, twist is dick . Wouldn't that be great? Wouldn't that be great if the last time you heard somebody scream that at a wrestling show? It was the last time . Imagine being the first guy and you know it was a guy to scream that at a wrestling show . That guy's got to be so proud of himself . That guy's probably dead . Either self inflicted or somebody twisted his dick to death . Man can dream . But then Androti pulls off his pants because he's got the pullaway pants and then Orange Cassidy pulls off his jeans to reveal underneath jeans . I mean that is some El Santo Milmaskerus level commitment to the g immick , genius because Mill and Santo would, you know, pull off their mask and have another mask on underneath. Incredible . When Mill Maskeras went into the WWE Hall of Fame . I was the writer assigned to him Every I'm not even exaggerating . Every room he walked into He had a different mask on. Like this guy had at least ten masks on and when he was like when he was getting his award he had on a mask . And then when I caught up with him again in the back , he's about to eat his dinner. I asked for his autograph . He had on a different mask. Like there would be times he would just be walking . I never saw him do it, but all of a sudden I look and I'm like, Jesus Christ Milt, do you have on a different mask? Nobody cares about you. They care about me, nobody cares about you I can't believe I meet Anvince at that same house hardcore show where we met Roddy Piper and Rick Flair said Trentness facility . And we had the interaction with Terry Funk, it was fucking unreal . We saw Mil Masker as Wrestle that night. I have video of it. He was seventy years old then and he jumped off the top rope onto his opponent who caught him . But man oh man oh man older than my dad he might still be wrestling. Mil Maskarus? He must have retired at this point, right? Hey Siri, when is the last time Milmaskerus wrestled Oh, you're crazy . What do you what do you what is this even supposed to be? She pulled up WWF St. Valentine's Day Massacre nineteen ninety nine. Was he on that show ? I don't even know what I said . Anyway , I thought about it. The match as a whole was great, but it was not I didn't give it a star even with Leo Rush showing up . Oh, maybe that was that was the Mark No, no, no, that was the Androade match . That's right because Leo Rush wanted to get selfies with them, and Orange Cassidy was freaked out . So fucking good. So is Androti turning babyface? Is he already babyface? I love this aspect of the Don Calus family, that the family is so big , it's he would never admit it, but it's too much for one man to handle . Don Kalis can't handle it and the interaction with like Kevin Knight, Don Kallis and Dradi in the back . I don't even feel like it's repeating the Tekhida storyline . Because Because ultimately that was like an internal feud and Don Kalis made the choice, you know? And the choice between Takeshir and Okada , it's no choice at all for a man like Don Kalas . But there should always be some turnover and I love I just love the internal , you know you know conflict of this is the way it should be. It feels like they are leading up to potentially like a multi person match, a multi person number one contenders match , but they can get some individual matches out of it. What I'm talking about is the fact that Mark Briscoe keeps cutting promos. First of all, the winning streak he's on. I love that Vince leaves town and immediately Mark Briscoe goes on a fucking winning streak . The fucking the war dogs won their match at collision . I mean, goddamn . Vince, you might I mean , Eddie Kingston might as well have come back and surprised waffled MJF from behind and won the title . Might happen. Could happen on this week's Dynamite. We have no idea no idea. Nobody cares about you. They care about me. Nobody cares about you Vince's bad luck. Vince's bad luck for all the wrestlers that he loves . You need to stay out of here, Labowski. Stay at him alaboo, deadbeat . But I love that Mark not only is he cutting promos on MJF , but also I love the idea that it's like basically MJF is ducking him Slight yawn, I'm sorry. I'm tired. It's been a long day . It's been a long day . Those of you who just listened to the main feed , you're probably getting this at the usual time. But people on the Patreon as far as you're concerned, this is going late . But hey , we do what we can, and when we can, we do it, I a great had audition today. That's that ate up most of my day . And the fact that I didn't have to coordinate with Vince, you know , I just kept pushing it . Goddamn . And I have a callback tomorrow . So don't worry about me. I better book this f ucking thing . It was nice just seeing I saw a lot of dudes that I like you never see anybody anymore. Never go on auditions anymore. In person at that, man, oh man , a sibling for the working man . But I love that Mark Briscoe , cut in promos , winning streak , demands a tit le shot . Kevin Knight wants a title shot . Andrewda wants a title shot . This is exactly the way it should be . Everybody should be gunning for the champion . One of the advantages of the post modern you know good guys versus bad guys is definitely pass Hassey . Part of the advantage of that is that everybody you don't have to like have somebody turn heel just because they want to challenge for the belt. You know, obviously the champ is a he el, but you know, Kevin Knight doesn't have to turn babyface in order to get a title shot. In fact, he already had a title shot, didn't he? Didn't he wrestle Darby during the thing? Or no, he had a great match with MJF . MJF just kept a rolling out of the ring. It was such a sweet series of spots . I love his story. I'm a sucker for a story . Max tell me a story . But I say it all the time . Everybody it's part of the problem with so it's part of the good thing that even a baby face can be like I want I want the f ucking belt, you know , but then you can do matches to get there , you know . So now Androtian and Kevin Knight might have a problem, maybe they don't , but Androidian ark Brisco should havee a proble m. Anybody who's like, No I should be next, no I should be next Then they can have TV matches against each other It helps When everybody wants the same thing , it helps build stories . Because now it's like, oh , well, we can all fit in this canoe . So one of you is going to have to beat up the other one. It's perfect. Wrestling doesn't have to be complicated. WWE got all they want to do is complicate it or all they want to do is I mean, have you guys had enough of Dan Hausen yet? I like I like him . I'm really happy for him . But Jesus, Christ, does it have to be every segment on the show or like Ms. Cursed did you watch that shit where like Mrs. Cursed and he's like repeating all his old catch phrases and I've seen Savangouli do fucking more competent sketch comedy like Christ almighty . So and now he's got his his his dungeon or his lab or whatever it is. He's which I dig, I dig, but you know, it's the it's the oops all berries evocation of everything in this world and WWE is no shortage of it . Oh, you like that ? You like donuts , have every donut in the world. That's the way it feels. We're just like, Oh you fucking like Dan Hausen . We should fucking put them on the whole show . It's tough. It's tough I do like the weird accent he talks in though . It's a long island accent Ah, God in heaven . Those death riders, man man just thinking about everything that happened . Because you know you had the Hoot Moxley Wrestle Taylor , Shane Taylor and then that leads to the Oh well that was the other and then that leads to the big street fight tag match tornado God damn Marina Shafir will never walk right again She's crazy She has I feel she has really blossomed. I feel like she's gotten more comfortable and and keep going. Keep keep getting comfortable , you know. I don't I don't know that she will you know become pleased with herself as say, like a Mercedes Monet . But you know, not everybody can be that comfortable , you know, sure of themselves on camera. But I feel like Marina is closer than she's ever been . I like that Meri Mercedes is back . I like that I never had to work with her all I've ever heard from people that have worked with her just woof I truly I'm not even joking around. I am truly grateful that I never had to try and collaborate or pitch an idea to her or hand her a script and say here say this or be the one to tell her you and Bailey are losing the tag championships tonight whatever it is that I am that I am still to just enjoy her work as a fan . I remember the first first it was around the time that people were chanting, We want Sasha . So this must have been oh I mean what? I quit it was somewhere in between it was somewhere in the early teens I quit in twenty twelve and then started up again at the beginning of twenty sixteen . So it might have been twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen. That sounds right but at any rate it was at the height of the people chanting We want Sasha . And I forget who either got the call up from NXT or got the I think she was already on the main roster, but like who got the title shot instead of her and I texted somebody who no longer writes there. I'm still not going to say who it is, but just for their sake and I was like, oh, what's the deal? Why is so getting the title? We don't we don't want that. We want Sasha and his reply and this is this was not a phone call . This was a text . This guy replied so exhausted and exasperated. And was just like, oh God sash . So So she was a pain in the ass since the word go . And look, hey, I don't know. I never had to interact with her, but it served her well I guess I guess at the very minimum , it has served her well , you know ? Chompa is the same I heard Chompa was the same way. Champa takes his shit very seriously . So it was it was often difficult interactions for , you know , the writers . And most of the time at WWE the writer at least when I was there, the writers are kind of they're the in between . They were the go between there were go between that would be between Vince slash triple H and the talent um you know You always hear that story of guys get fired and they're like Vince loved me. It was that goddamn Jim Ross who hated me. It was that goddamn John Laurenidus. It was that goddamn , you know, that goddamn creative team . Oh , oh those people like when Cody quit he wrote that open letter sh onitting like Ryan Ward , who's who's RW is one of the best dudes I'd ever met , one of the easily the smartest booker on that creative team when I was there, just such a love , true love for pro wrestling come on somebody's gonna fucking be mad at Ryan . Oh my god, but that's just it . So then so many times you would just wind up being the guy who's like, okay, well like I was always the one that had to go tell Abraham Washington and the prime time players at their segment was cut every single time . Like by the way, it got cut. It's not happening. It's cut . But I would always do it in a way like the other writers would do their job better than me . And what I mean by that is they would go and like explain it to the people and be like, well here's the rationale . Here's the reasoning behind it. Maybe even sell them some bullshit and just be like , yeah, but here's why it's going to be better. It's here's why it's better that we're waiting to do it next week or on Thursday or whatever . I didn't do that. I would go in there and be totally on the wrestler side and kind of put it like which is the truth . I would just put it on Vince or whoever mostly Vince . I would just be like, yeah, it's cut. I don't know. It's fucking it's ridiculous . The other writers didn't like if a wrestler got upset, they would be like, Ah, man, here's what we're gonna do . Not saying all of 'em, but I can think of instances where that happened, you know ? Trying not to generalize . But I never did that. I would always just be like, yeah, I don't know it got cut. It's fucking stupid Hey home . There was one time this was when we were starting feud with Jericho and Randy Orton and we didn't know why the feud was starting and we're already at TV and Jericho was going to attack Randy and we don't know why and thank goodness most times heals don't don't owe you an explanation . Like I'm sure we had a reason . This is also the other thing like a guy like Jericho again takes it very seriously . Jericho's the type of guy if you got assigned his shit as a writer at WWE , he wouldn't even look at it. I mean, he might look at it, but he'd be like, I'm not saying any of this . And he would physically take your laptop from you and write his promo himself . And then be like, okay, let's go into Vince's office and pitch this to him together . And we did this that particular night, it was me in Jericho and we went in , and Vince hated it . And to Vince's credit, Vince was always open like if Talent had a suggestion or a concern , Vince would hear them out . It doesn't necessarily mean he would , you know , do what they felt comfortable doing, but boss lacks options . So this particular night , we had a reason. I don't remember why . Jericho attacked Ray Orton. Jericho didn't like it, we got rid of it . He types up a new one, we go into Vince's office. Vince doesn't like it. So now the three of us are sitting there in silence trying to think of why the fuck is Jericho attacking Randy Orton tonight And Vince is just kind of free thinking and Jericho's sitting there really concentrating hard trying to come up with something . And I'm some in my mind , I've gone to California . Can't you see the sunshine ? Can't you just feel the moon shine . And I'm like, any, I am just listening , waiting for any opportunity to seize and get the fuck out of Vince's office. I'm just like , I just want to get the fuck out of here . This was definitely towards the end of my run on the road. Like I was like , I've fucking had enough of this . And so Vince is kind of just free associating talking , you know, just stream of consciousness, just which is a good technique to use when you're writing when you're trying to come up with that idea just kind of like saying words just like you know I'm the best in the world you know I'm the best in the world of what I do you know you know, well I mean Jericho Rand is young Jericho's better Jericho's the best you know Jericho Jericho thinks he's he's the best he's the best in the world of what he does . And I immediately , you know , remember some advice Michael Hayes gave me. He's just like , all right, because I pitched I don't remember what it was, but I p itched an idea to Michael and he's like, all right, ooh, ooh, that's good. Yeah , yeah . Now how do we make Vince think it was his idea ? And like not doing a bit , like not goofing around . So I hear Vince say I'm the best in the world at what I do and I'm like, maybe that's it . Maybe that's that's that's what Jericho says he just grabs Randy attacks Randy and then just grabs him and is like , don't you get it? I'm the best in the world at what I do. I'm the best in the world, whatever it is, whatever the line was . And then Vince is like Hm , it's pretty good . 'Cause it's it's something to do . It gives us another week to figure out why the fuck did Jericho attack Randy . And it's interesting , you know, it's intriguing. It's a little mystery . And Jericho said nothing , hates it, but said nothing . And Vince goes, all right, that's good. That's good for your night . But we need to figure out a reason before next week . And we leave and we left , we left the office. And I'm like , great. I'm going to go type this up Jericho says Jericho, three asterisks . I'm the best in the world at what I do, Randy and Jericho hated it. And I remember Jericho saying to Dave Kapor He's like, My shit sucks tonight. And Dave's like, Why do you mean ? And he told him, he's like, I'm going to attack Randy and say I'm the best in the world at what I do and that's it . And Dave's like, What? That's it. He's like, Yeah, that's it. That's all I'm gonna say to him. And Dave just goes, That sucks . But then Dave fucking really good at his job. Much better than me . He goes, Well, how about instead of you just say it you grab him and you bring him in close and you say it real quiet like you like you really want him to understand it . And then you start getting louder and louder and the louder you get, the more intense you get. And the look on Jericho's face he was just like , oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And just like, yeah, just fucking sell it, man . Dave had been doing it a long time. Dave was real good at what he did and me on the other hand, I so fucking fed up with being there . I didn't I really didn't give a shit . It's a shame. And then well here's the here's the punchline to the whole story . Never had to figure out why Jericho attacked Randy because they went to I don't know where they went. Did they go to Mexico or somewhere in South America? They were in some other country and Jericho did something obscene with that country's flag and he got in big trouble and then he got suspended . So that feud ended before it even started started . How the hell did I get talking about that ? I just want Mark Brisco to win the title . You know what I mean? I know what else I want to talk about because when Brisco threw down because they're doing what? They're doing a six on six cage match at Forbidden Door . Almost feels like you need a double cage . Boss , I don't know if one cage is going to fit these muffuckers . Might need to be getting a second cage. Maybe we want two cages . Maybe we want three cages, boss. I don't know, we're kind of playing these small venues here in AEW. I work at AEW now. I'm alpha this week. So I decided to go give Tony a thrill . Maybe you might want to I don't know if I don't know if the building is big enough for two cages next to each other. Maybe you want to put a cage on top of the cage . Maybe you want to put a hat on hat . Maybe oh, I don't know. Maybe you want to do little tower of doom twelve dudes inside one cage, though, that 's uh to quote Eugene Levy in the film Club Paradise when he received a garbage bag full of weed . Oh, it's too much. It's too much . Twelve dudes in one cage? That's too much . I mean that that's a war games, you know ? A six on six cage match? What are we talking about here? Mark? That's the war games. That's the match beyond . Blood and guts . I mean, are they doing blood and guts? I mean, they didn't announce it as such . They just I mean, it didn't even really occur to me until right now that I'm sitting here I'm just sitting here thinking I don't want to go to Vietnam. That's I don't know that that's a John Lee Hooker song. Yeah, twelve man tag team steel cage match. That's that's war games. I don't know why that didn't dawn on me till now . Hm m Who's Mark going to Mark doesn't have five friends I mean, if they can , you know , bring Ishi out of the rain, maybe oil can up his joints, he might be able to go . Then you gotange Or Cassidy, Roddy , Kyle . That's four. You still need one more. Who would be the one more ? Maybe Andrade , that'd be interesting . Maybe maybe low key. Not low key. What am I fucking talking about? Leo Rush . Low key . Maybe Leo Rush . He's been tangentially involved . What did he keep saying to Andride? He's like, he knows or he approves . Andride is just like what are you talking about ? What's all that black shit dripping on your shirt, dude ? Phone's ringing, dude . But here's what I wanted to say about it. When Mark Briscoe set the stipulation , oh my God , I'm so sorry. That's the third time of yawn tonight . Midword two . What a joke I am . What a colossal fuck I am . Hey, forgive me . So Mark Challenges names the step . It's going to be in a steel cage . And then MJF sells it like death, like he's seen a ghost. Like he's seen a ghost beating up another ghost, you know , and that's wrestling. That's that's standard wrestling. Hey , that's football guys . That's all it is . It's the six inches in front of your f ace . Um , they sell it . The heels like oh no oh my god Oh no don't make me get in that steel c age . But when they do it in WWE, it's like gives a shit . You see once that my old boss at Aguam Hunt Country Club , Randy St. John, big wrestling fan . He would always walk by the pool. It's so funny. I was a teenager and I used to think, Oh my God, this old guy probably wasn't even thirty . Big wrestling fan, but there was some cage match and I remember him saying, you seen one cage match, you've seen them all. And I'm like, what are you talking about? And from that moment on , every cage match I saw was like, oh yeah, I see what he means . But in WWE, yeah. You see when you see them all because they don't they don't get juice, you know, they don't get collar, they don't gimmick . So it's like me Me. AEW on the other hand, MJF sells, oh my God, a cage match . I'm like, yeah, you dummy . You dummy because crazy shit. I mean at WWE it's like a cage match . It just means it's going to be a Kendo stick match that's harder to see I got to try to watch a Kendo stick match through steel mesh . Whereas AEW, I mean, maybe they'll pull out the Kendo sticks. I don't even feel like they do. I mean, maybe they do. I mean, I certainly pull out the fucking gas cans . But MJ's going to get fucked up. He's going to get fucked up. I've I can't remember the last time I watched a W WE cage match and been like, Oh my God that guy got fucked up . Maybe it was Cody vs. Seth, but like Cody was fucked up before the match , where he had his giant purple stain on his peck. What a what a what a fucking what a fucking hero What a goof I love the guy though . But yeah, it was just it was one of those moments where I was like , goddamn, like they are delivering. AEW is delivering . It ain't delivery. It's AEW . I just dig it, man. I really, really dig it. It really pushes me further and further away from I'm not getting pushed. I'm the same wrestling fan I always was . It's WWE that changed . Is it the children who were wrong? No . Am I so out of touch? No , it's WWE that's wrong. It's tough, man. So then what have we got ? I'm just looking at forbidden door. I don't even know what's happening on Dynamite this week . I mean, forbidden doors next week . That's crazy. Father Days this weekend . Goddamn, why am I always out of town unlike the wrestling payer views, we're gonna be me and Peter Duo North in South Carolina. I guess I'll be back on the twenty eighth in time Fucking better be dude dude Goddamn go,ddamn fucking you know, goddamn fucking , I just feel that if we if we can deliver on a cage match that is particularly violent . And goddamn boss, you know, we might be into something . It did get me thinking though about do you remember in two thousand three Bloodbath Wrestling's most incredible steel cage matches that, DVD set that WWE put out. I remember when that came out , I was like, Oh man , oh man, we're fucking ready dude Because they may have put out, did they put out a single disc cage match compilation before this one or is this the one I'm thinking of ? I mean two thousand three, this has to be the first one like not a colosseum video, not a video tape of cage matches . This is yeah, yeah, yeah, because this is post WCW purchase , you know , did they own the AWA footage at this point too . It doesn't look like it, but this list of is this the one I'm thinking of ? No . This starts with Bruno vs. Ivan seventy five , Emistry, Backlin versus Patterson , Emistry, seventy nine , Bob Backland versus Stan Hansen in nineteen eighty one. Isn't that crazy? Dom Rocko versus Jimmy Snooka , the world's worst boyfriend . NWA No, this is the one I'm thinking of yeah because disc two is yeah the Tully Blanchard Magnum TAI quit match fromom Stark eight to five, what a fucking match that is Vince doesn't love the gimmick that you got to say I quit into the microphone or at minimum , it's been played out , which I can't argue there . Yeah, Rick Flare versus Dusty, Great American Bash eighty six, Rock and Roll Express versus Minnes theota Wrecking Crew , Stark eight hundred and eighty six got a lot of use out of that cage, nineteen eighty six bouse, doo doo doo . I don't know if you recall when that set came out , I was like, holy fucking shit . This is everything. This is epic, dude . I don't know, I almost feel like there was another one because I don't know, two disc it wasn't in like the cardboard fold out DVD set. Feels like they do that for or did that for three disc gimmicks . Like there's WrestleMania's that are like that because I feel like they put out this set and then immediately put out another one . But I could be wrong. It could just be twelve thirty in the morning and I'm dying . I need another sip water before oh no, the water's gone . I had a Venti water . But the Tully Magnum one , that cage match, that kicks off disc too . That was one of those ones too where yeah, it must have been zero three because I remember going to UCB one night when they were doing cage match which was not it wasn't like a they've done people have done like improv or like sketch versions of a wrestling show . This was not it. This was like an improv open mic competition . Maybe not an open mic . In my mind teams were being pulled at random, but maybe that 's wrong . Maybe it was pre booked, but it wasn't pre written. It was it was all improv and but it was it was teams competing , you know , I think that's what it was, but at any rate they somebody put this disc on and it was just playing on the screen as people were filing in to the show and music playing . And I was I was taking classes at UCB at the time . And when you take classes there, you have to attend X amount of shows, right ? And And I was in heaven. I was like can we just start the comedy ? Can we just sit there? Because the fact that they were projecting it on a huge screen , you know, I mean bigger than the TV setup I had , I don't know I mean huge screen I can't give dimensions, you know, another dimension , another dimension, another dimension, another dimension . But you know, it's like projecting on a screen, man . Like watching , you know, uncle, uncle Ted's slides from his vacation and I'm just it was definitely the biggest I had ever seen Tolly Blanche and a Magnum TA look . And I was just like, Fuck, dude, can we just sit here and watch this Fucking company stupid . Improvisation is stupid . Wrestling is awesome I might watch that set this weekend . I got it over here. Here's the thing the big cupboard behind me, like if you're watching the foot age with the Friday thirteenth part six poster and on top is all the WWF magazines . Over there is a smaller bookcase that has everything else , you know, inside wrestling, PWI . But inside that cupboard, once I rearranged everything in this room and I put in this VHS rack behind me , everything in that cupboard , everything in that cupboard is pro wrestling and there's still a lot of space because I haven't pulled all the other stuff out of the garage that's wrestling and put it into that cupboard because there is such a exorbitant perhaps unnecessary amount of wrestling DVDs that I have in the garage just from the days of when I worked there and then for several years after I received every single paper view that they put out on D VD . And honestly, and this is coming from me . It's your old pal Matt McCarthy, lover of pro wrestling, lover of physical media . I might not need every single one of those DVDs. I haven't had the time nor the inclination to cherry pick out of there . But you know, I mean very real when I say every paper view that WWE did from , you know, probably predating my time there, but we'll just say twenty ten , let's say, because I started working there in twenty eleven. We'll say twenty ten . Every DVD the next five years give or take . Again, Eugene Levy, that's too much . Especially but when they had the network, it was like, oh, I don't need these anymore. They're on the network. Then it was like, well, this thing is kind of censored or you know, every time they shoot it's funny if there if there was like a dusty roads is what comes to mind anything when they were going through their period where like anytime somebody was covered in blood, they had to go black and white . It was like, oh man, this is fucking horrible. The way that they just molest this footage of like you can't even say oh well it's we're blood free pal We're PG pal . It's like oh god what are you doing? So then it was like okay hold on to the DVDs, but then the network felt like things kind of loosened up at least with the rating system too because once you have like ECW shit up there and like it's TV MA, it's like , okay, we're safe . Well, then the network moves to Peacock, and Peacock becomes kind of . But then once they made the move to Netflix, it's like, well wait, what's what's even there anymore . I don't know, it's tough. It's tough, it's tough to decide but it is it's the ultimate dilemma of being a physical media collector. It's like how can you even trust what's going to stay on these streaming services ? Least of all with the wrestling , you know ? And especially in terms of archival stuff, old stuff because that was supposed to be the big draw of WWE network was, oh my god, I can watch everything that ever existed . And then they're like, oh, well, the big numbers are always on the new paper views. It's like, well, yeah because, that's that's your big draw. But God damn , just fucking leave all the old shit up . What are you doing with it? they're putting it on YouTube. So now I am feeling a little looser about like, well, maybe I don't need to keep . But at any rate, when that stuff comes in, I need to put it in that cupboard . So I don't know if the steel cage match set is inside or outside. I think it might be in the garage . But I am curious . I feel like they followed up with a second set . I can't picture it though. I mean, they definitely did that with I don't know some of those sets they started putting out were odd. Like they really overdid it with the ladder matches they they did like a money in the bank volume one and two to I'm not entirely sure like some of those even like some of the the WCW like the best of the bash or the best of , you know, Starkade or whatever it's like I mean they're pretty it's a pretty great quality but it is like I don't know what I'm I'm just I don't know how many of those are going to wind up on YouTube, maybe everything , you know, hopefully everything, but like for them it makes good business sense because it's you can monetize it , you know? Because otherwise it's just sitting in your vault doing dick and Lord knows you weren't making money per view on the network , but I do love that they are right now they seem pretty active putting up the Colosseum videos . Best of the WWF , you know, volume sixteen and seventeen. It feels like those just went up . I haven't dug into those yet . But fifteen , I want to say jumps out of me. I think that was the last one that was in the oversized clamshell before they switched totally to just the cardboard sleeve. I believe Rick Martell is on the cover giving somebody a baston crab . What's a guy with a foreign accent doing moves from Boston for? Hm m Rick Martell? Hm French Canadian bastard . Anyway I am going to say, God damn it, I didn't ask Vince again this week . I guess if he had a favor you would have told me. We've been texting. We've been in touch, we're not fighting . He'll be back. He's just busy . He's just busy My favorite wrestler has to be Mark Briscoe . I just love him. I love this winning streak he's on. I love that he grabs the microphone after and he just calls out the fucking champ , you know , I would love why not why not put the put the title on Mark Can we can we go damn can we get Mark Briscoe payday? Can we just give him a babyface run ? Championship . Baby. I don't know. I doubt it, but I also it wouldn't surprise me too. It's almost like, you know , giving Al Pacino the Academy Award for Sen of a Woman. It's like it's overdue. Do you realize John Malkovich has never won an academy award? Is that the stupidest thing you've ever heard? It should be it should be . Anyway , shout out to everybody on the Patreon and come join the Discord. Everybody's having a great time over there . And McCarthy redhead all forms of social media , joined the video movie club, gave some membership card of the video garage, access to full unedited video tapes . Somebody was just asking for more old wrestling tapes to be added to that archive. And I do have plenty of shit stacks, shit stacks . You take a fuck shit stack on top of itself . Anyway , we'll be doing all those amazing things. Vince will return very soon. I'll be doing the Q and A and the zero point five again this week, possibly solo I know Vince rotates back Thursday , but you know , then you need a vacation from your vacation. You certainly need aed vacation from the travel . So TBD, TBD might be both of us might just be my man , meaning me , your man. Yuboy . But until then Thank you for your continued support for this show and take care of yourselves and each other
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