Jim Ross and Jim Cornette Updates

Hey , do you watch wrestling ? Greetings salutations, waho, they're welcome friends and foes, skills and baby faces. Well, hello there. I'm your wonderful darling . Red headed bearded host wrestling Matt McCarthy with me always once again he back. He back mister Vince Averl. Back, back . What's up dude? He's an encyclopedia a professional wrestling. Did you miss me? I'm back . Remember that first wrestle con . I don't know if it was the first Russell Con. Was it the first Russell Con? I think it might have been right? Yeah, San Jose ? Yeah , yeah . It might have been. I don't know. I've never think it was, but I could be I'm wrong on a regular basis , but I think it was the first one, yeah. I mean, it was so chintzy compared to yeah however big it is now Yeah, I mean they remember they had like they had that little room of tables, but then they had a ring outside in the back. Yeah . And then there was also and then was it the same room? Did they transform it into the where we saw the matches at night? It feels like it was , but maybe it was like adjacent yeah, it might have been the same room because it was it felt like everything that was there was like it didn't feel like there were individual vendors. Like it was like High Spots had a table that Excalibur was working selling DIDs Yep . But it wasn't like , you know you know, there wasn't the like I don't want to pick on anybody, but just the first thing that came to mind is like every time we go there's the dude who has like the inflatable like steel chairs you can buy to hit your friends or whatever. I don't remember seeing him till New York, but yes. Yeah , I'm just saying like the and also it wasn't like, you know, there certainly was not a I mean who would have been the biggest name that was there sign and autographs? I don't think there was even pro photos . No, there certainly was not pro photos. No , there probably was a few, you know , old tim ers maybe it was it was definitely like hacksaw because there was the dude who kept saying yo who like clearly didn't know Hacksaw's catchphrase . Yeah. Oh no that was that wasn't until that happened in Dallas . No, that was San Jose for sure. That was the first year? Yeah, because what made me think of it? Oh, I mean, I want to mention this before I forget. Also Bobby Hean was there and that was for sure the last time maybe the only time I ever saw Bobby Heenan, but like he was already sick, already didn't have, you know, I think he was missing part of his mouth at that point . Was San Jose ? twenty fifteen? I think it was even earlier than that. I think it was twenty . Because we started the show in thirteen and maybe it was maybe it was twenty I mean I think I think let's see let's see WrestleMania thirty one right Yeah, you're asking the wrong encyclopedia. Man twenty fifteen ? I thought it was earlier than that . I'm I'm trying to analyze the way machbineack to look at the RussellCon website for twenty fifteen and see if I can glean any information Well, I went to Cage Match and they have nothing, even though it looks like, oh wait no, maybe I just need a button . I mean it has the sand San Jose Airport Hotel . This is the Russell Con super show. You're ready for this commentary. Ex Calibur and Marty De Rosa Okay , hold on . Russell Khan I'm looking at a capture from March , something of there they've got Ray Mysterio on here . Signing autographs? Yep, a special guest just announced. 'Cause that was remember when he wrestled in New Japan one time ? Ray Mysterio junior Yeah, when he was on the outs with WWE . I remember him being on the outs . He wrestled like one match or like I just remember him being a new band. Oh, of course the hardy boys were there. No, of course, yeah, the main event was RVD and Staboo versus the Hardies which is crazy . But also let's see, official guess. Let's see if I can use this link or not. Dude, listen to this, listen to this lineup . I forgot all about there must be a DVD of this show somewhere, right? There's something I mean, either that or at least there's a digital piece of it that was somewhere . The that was the main event , the no DQ tag match . The addiction of Anne Roderick Strong versus Ricochet AR Fox and Jucian Thunder Liger. That's right. That's right . twelve man tag Your favorite wrestler and his Buba Ray Dudley and Divon Dudley. Oh yeah . Big Rick . Who the fuck is Big Rick ? Don't know . Big Rick Rick From From Ghana? From Oh, Ezekiel Jackson . Is that big rick? Yeah. Colkabana, Matt Sidel and Tommy Dreamer versus Abyss Brian Myers, Chris Hero, Drew Gulak , James St orm and Tomaso Champa . Aero Star versus Andrew Everett versus Jack Evans . Where's Andrew Everett been ? I don't know. I feel like I saw he was on AW IN like enhancement at one point I thought . Brian Kendrick versus Cedric Alexander , the world's cutest tag team versus Zane Riley and Caleb Conley , Striker versus Jack Manning , John Hennegan against ACH , Jessica Havoc against Tessa Blanchard and Disco Inferno against Mr TA . Hm damn . Yeah, mysterio wrestled in in twenty eighteen. He was supposed to wrestle Liger and then he hurt got hur t and then he wrestled at Dominion and I think and maybe one other match and then the E was like hold on, hold on, what's going on here? Wait a minute . Because yeah, they had the how did we get onto this ? I felt like you were because I called you the encyclopedia and it immediately made me think of because there was that ring outside , right? Yes . And they were doing trivia . This is how low stakes and like small this Wrestle Kon feels in my memory because it was just like maybe like fifteen or twenty of us outside and they were doing trivia and I was like, you should do the trivia and you're like, no, fucking way, dude . Yeah, I don't need to be set up. You trying to set me up? Right. It was like, I don't want Vince to feel like he set up, but then also like some of the questions that some of these dudes were being asked and they were knowing the answ ers to you. You're like, See, this is why you can't call me the encyclopedia man because like these guys know some fucking weird shit, dude. Yeah, I've had relationships with opposite sex and stuff . You know, business business at times, but that's so low class of me to say you're so classic I want to apologize to everyone. Apologize for being so low class. Apologize to me. Maddy said I was low class you bro in it bomb dim but doom but doom damn dude So what the fuck's going on, bro since I've been gone bro what the fuck happened cool ? Nothing . Bubba Dudley called out John Moxley and then when Josh Barnett called out Bubba Ray , Buba Ray acted like you guys are suckers. It was all just a work which is the lamest like he couldn't have gotten lamer ous because Vince, you've been watching wrestling your whole life. That's always what happens whenever somebody starts a feud . They always are always quick to point out to everybody . We're just doing a work . You joking . You idiots ? I was just joking. No, I think I think Baba he wants to be or at least in his mind or maybe not, maybe it's not even conscious, but I think he's trying to do a like Steven A. Smith, Rush Limbaugh, like I say , I say crazy shit because people will tune in to bust it open to hear what crazy shit Buba Ray is going to say and when Buba Ray needs to fucking back pedal and put his hands up . He will , but I just think he's, you know, I mean he's a fucking idiot, but well that I don't know. I mean, that's just my opinion. But I also think it's it's so interesting , that's the show is. We've gone along with , you know , like someone the encyclopedia not even, really knowing that Tommy Dreamer was like the head of creative for TNA and then he gets fired . I think we knew that we just didn't care. Well, whatever it is , once he gets fired , then all of a sudden it's just like all these people come out of the woodwork to be like, well, I guess what happened was that referee he posted something, right? Did you see all this? I only was aware of that there was like the clip of Bob Ray and Tommy talking about like when Stacy Kiebler said she was getting pressured to get implants and they were like, if you do that, we'll punch you in the face or something like that . No, so you know what I'm referring to I'm not sure if I do, but what happens is Tommy gets fired and then this referee who seems to be universally beloved by a lot of people he's like, oh well you know Tommy Dreamer Man like he one time was like you'll never fucking work in this like just kind of shit on me or whatever right yeah and so then that was sort of the siren call and then all these people, like a couple of females were like, yeah, I one time I worked a match and he like insisted we do this spot where he grabb myed crotch or he insisted I we do this match where he fucking spanked me, you know? And so then all of a sudden there's just all these people being like yeah fuck Tommy Dreamer man he's a fucking shit head whatever and wow weird because like forever like it's just so funny how the and I'm not this is not me saying at all that these people are making this up or they shouldn't have said anything right. I'm just saying it's just interesting how you kind of flow along and I've never heard anything about the guy and then all of a sudden it's just like the floodgates somehow sometimes you just need that little maybe you need to like pretend that you found a shrimp tail in your fucking seared what it meant the floodgates open, you know? That's the first person to make me think of . But yeah, anyway and it was funny too because I think it was Mickey James or somebody tried to come to his defense and that was thwarted . But really you know, I don't know it's it is what it is, but sounds like maybe the road dog, your boy Rodger maybe you're gonna be getting a call from over to TNA. We need a little help, Maddie. Now that you got somebody in power over there that you're friendly with. I can't record Vinny, got to go to TV. Oh my god it's so weird because it is like it's like half a WWE terror anyway of like the strange working relationship or whatever it is It's always weird when someone like gets released and goes over there because you're like, well isn't it the same place kind of? Oh no no, no,, not the same place. the N sameot place at all . I know, yeah. That's not the same place. Yeah , but speaking of San Jose , man . Yes. Can anybody remind me of the name of that bar we've gone to the last couple years when we were up in San Jose ? The brewery? Well, it's like a, you know, where like we've been up there for new Japan, so it's like there's football on. So there's been football we sat in the back the one time like out on the patio and then one time we were at like some booths like moving toward the back. There's food. You know what I'm talking about I know exactly the place you're talking about. I'm just not sure like I'm picturing two different places in my mind in San Jose. One is I think it was like a brewery, right? And then there was the other place that like we took a big group photo in front of Oh, the brewery was like a few iterations ago. Yeah, the last year. Well, there's also yeah, there's the time you're talking about where we did the group photo. But the last couple times have specifically been a third place where there was like football because it was playoff football both years. Like you walked in, there was a bar and then the venue kind of moved backward and there were booths. And then eventually you could go outside and there was a big outside patio that also had a TV . And not the place with the Elvis impersonator ? Oh, that was Seattle . That was Seattle. Yeah That's what happened. No, dude, listen, I know. I'm happy that for once I know the difference. Anyway, so if anybody knows manner or anyone because otherwise I'm just going to be in my hotel parking lot with Jerry Stumbaugh drinking beers on the back of his bumper. So you know, let me know where the party's at when I get to that. No, no, no. You don't want to be cooped up with the next round . want to You be out and well, I'm going to be out in the bout. It might be with Jerry. I don't know, man . So we'll see. Well, it's should be with Jerry . No Sam, Jerry. And a host of others I,'m sure I be with Jerry. Well, it's good. When you go to San Jose, what is this? Forbidden Door this Sunday live on pay per view from the SAP Center . And you better believe that there are currently nine matches and a tenth match on the zero hour. I'm sure there's going to be more before the weekends. Got one more Wednesday here for Tony to jam another match or two in there . And as we discussed before I left her, at least at some point, not the door is not quite as forbidden as it's been in the past. There's a couple of names here, Shango Takagi and things, but you know, a little less forbidden this year, but also still a fucking, you know , tremendous AEW payer review on paper . I just don't understand how it's possible for Pete's booking agent to constantly be scheduling shows the weeks of wrestling paper views. It's just it's beyond yeah me p I mean there's what's what's the WWE one on Saturday you're going to have to struggle to watch you've been so excited to watch . What's on Saturday? The WWE paper view, there's a there's a there's a EPA view on Saturday. I think it's it's the one in Riyadh . Oh fuck off. South South Saudi, come on, don't be mad. Just you got to tune in. It's gonna be in the morning Is there all your viewing pleasures? Israel Night of Champions, I think Night of Champions, okay ? Can I tell you? Yes. No idea that that payer view is happening. Well, you got to watch Raw . I watch it, but I mean, I'm in Brimo, dude. Interesting too, that that's where they're crowning their king and queen of the ring . They're just putting on the old knight of champions . Aren't they, Maddie? Just scrolling through that right now. Okay, so this is where they're doing Jay Usu and Oba Femi. Yeah , come on Femi, get that big king of the ring . I mean, Jay Usu's such a loser. It's just it's like right. I mean like he does not he's he's like the at all, right ? What? Did your mic get cut off? What happened? I don't know. I didn't hear part of what you said . Really? What do you mean ? You said yeah, yeah, you said he's the biggest loser something, right? And I don't know what the thumb thing was about Jayuso . I think I just paused because I saw you starting to talk . Oh , maybe I was no, no, I don't I think Jayuso is is I don't I don't I don't think he's a loser but I but he is a guy who is pushed way beyond his his his the other than his entrance. He's not pushed beyond his entrance or his crowd interaction like, you know, his his yeet or whatever, but I think , you know, the like I'm just going, all right , can we not have it? Could it not have been somebody else? I know can't um does this work for you if I just kind of lean back like this for a minute? Oh yeah . It works it works for me, dude, yeah. Can't Jacob Fart II have that entrance instead you know? Can we can we just get can we get Jacob Far two a pay day? Oh , fat two's doing just fine man. He's fucking all gas no breaks. You ain't gonna worry about Jacob, dude. But I mean, he should be doing the crazy like, can you imagine how crazy the people would be going if Fa two had like a fucking shield entrance through the crowd and was like getting people amped up. He would be like head button people and shit and fucking I think they should bring back the old saboo entrance that's the fucking silence of the lambs. I think they should fucking put them on a hand cart and fucking bind his hands and cover his face up and bring them out. Who used to wheel out Sabu, was it nine hundred and eleven? I think you remember that guy? Yeah . Now what about Trick Willy and Ricky Saints? Now that one , it should be one for the Ricky Saints has become such a star over there . Seth and Bron in a c age, hello . And I did not see the match with Cody and Gunter where Sammy was the spot special ref but it has led to it being a three way here. So I don't know. Do you know anything about what happened ? No, was that on SmackDown I don't know. I just know it was when I was I believe it was when I was out of the country . Oh , maybe it wasn't, but I missed it either way. You know, WWE it's increasingly difficult for me to watch. It's hard. It really is hard, isn't it? I mean, when I actually do it, like last night when I watched her, I'm like, all right, this isn't like hard. I'm just not super like into it, but you know what I mean? I mean, I find it difficult because it's like the product isn't put it this way . The product isn't good enough for me to like forget my morals . Okay you know what I mean? Yeah , you know, because like there were there have been times when it's like , you know , so you are yeah, I'm just trying, you know, because it's like now I there are times when I just feel like I'm just supporting a shitty company doing shitty stuff . What about Roman, though? He went to the White House. He went to the fights . Yeah, Roman's a fucking shit head too. You gotta you gotta love a fucking cancer survivor who is down with them down with down with people who aren't fucking canceling cancer research, but hey, man. Got it . Oh man , nevertheless , yes, I mean everyone knows and everyone grows. But how about Tiffy Time and Jade Cargill, dressed fucking neck to ankle when ready to brawl in Saudi Arabia? That's going be to hot . Literally it's going to be it's going to be hot wrestling it will be warm yeah in a turtleneck garbage bag in June God bless. There's a school of thought that if Javon Evans beats Jay in the semi and it's Javon and Obi, that's better for everybody , you know, because at least then you're trying to fucking elevate Jay's just fine doing his yeat and being involved in the greatest storyline in pro wrestling history . I know. They're still in the third inning . Dude Oh yeah, fucking Heyman was on everyone's doing the long form Chris Van Leite interviews these days. Feinstein's rolling in his grave. These shoot interviews that are getting done, but yeah . So I was like, okay, let's put the like, you know, there's a mood of scale for blood and there's a Hogan scale for lying. And so I was like, let me watch the Paul Heyman with the Hogan scale here and see what he's got to say, but I haven't I mean now that Hulk Hogan's dead, is Paul Hayman the biggest liar in professional wrestling ? I don't. I mean he's I think he's got some stiff competition . I mean, as far as like maybe active because you know, Bishoff, he's got his short pretty good, but he's not really active other than his podcast and but like Paul Heyman he is remarkably full of shit . He is yeah, like the one thing I did see already and again, hey maybe, but the problem is, you know, if you yell the sky's falling a bunch of times, eventually no one's going to give a shit. And he was saying that there was like a period of time, like a couple weeks where he was hospitalized and and one of the nights he went he would check him out of the hospital. He would check himself out like charter a plane, go to RAW, and then go back and check himself back into the hospital. And he was like the night there was a night that the night angle Hanawana Leia danced atop the UCW arena. There was a raw with him and Jay Uso where he said I had a catheter and a stint in still while I was like on TV . I'm like, So you checked out , you checked out and they left the catheter in and they left the stent in or whatever and you were like, I'll be back in twelve hours . And I mean, I don't know, it's like maybe, but also like what hospital you're like, I've got to go to TV. I'll be back and they're like,, m oiskayter Hayman, I hope the hope you're feeling okay. We'll see you when you get back . So it's like maybe I don't know, fuck, man . I mean , yeah, if like he's going to whatever hospital he used to send like Mike Awesome too to get his head stitched up for fucking five bucks. I prefer medical center, but yes. Yeah . Medical No, medical facility. Medical facility facility. Yes. A tremendous medical tremendous facility. Tremendous medical facility . Yeah. I mean, it's just it's it's in addition to him always being full of shit , he's always in character as well , which is I just find annoying . Yeah , yeah , you know, like even like MJF isn't always in character . Like and that guy was one hundred percent committed to always being in character. And even now he's chilled out. Even Dan Hausen takes the makeup. Even Dan Housen every so often is just like, oh, I don't know . But like Heyman having to like there's no way anywhere inside like I don't even like some of these liars, they believe it, you know? Yeah , like God rest Hulk Gogan . I'm sure he believed some of the shit he said , you know ? Or when he backpedaled and saying like he never said it . I'm sure he believes he was like, I never said I auditioned to play bass and metallica. But like with Paul Hayman, there's no way any part of him actually believes he's a better manager what? He's somehow like, oh, but this is the magic of the, you know, I I'm , you know, that you don't know what I'm, you know, like I think he 's he's subscribing to some bullshit that also doesn't fall in line with his other bullshit, which is like, you know, the business has evolved and this and that but I still have to be the grand wizard at all times because how the business works and that's the magic of the business and I'm fucking, you know, it's like, all right, bud . I've seen him say more than once in an interview where he's like he's the best manager of all time and he's better than Bobby Heanan. Yeah, which I'm like, he doesn't think there's no way there's no way he really believes that. And the other thing I saw him say that I was like, oh, you know what? Like Hayman now, not that this is some revelation, but it's like a , you know , an example of him sort of, you know , being a little bit of an old timer because he was like you know the AW product it's it's it's a different product and it's it's actually takes so much from ECW . AW is basically Rob Van Dam and Jerry Lynn from nineteen ninety nine . And I'm like, yeah, but you're skipping a bunch of yes, yes, but you're skipping a bunch of things that happened from that point with wrestling . But yes, like at its root , there is some piece of that, but like you're you're sort of like and I guess you're putting yourself over as well, but like you're sort of missing a whole period of time that actually is what the what the real route is. Now the root root route, you know what I'm saying? I get it, but like, I'm just going, oh, okay, like this is you not you sort of exposing that you don't completely understand . Jerry Lyn is still an agent at AEW, isn't he? mister JL? I believe he still is there. Yes. That's great . But yeah, that's it's okay , but well no it's just you're just missing like yeah it's not exactly that it's it is it is from that that we go to this to this to this and then we get and then we get there. You know, I know, just to skip over , you know, like, of course Tony Kan went to the ECW arena. That's well documented. there's like some part of that , but it's like yeah, you're just missing Yeah, you're you're pretending like it's you're going from you know from Star Wars to Return of the Jedi. You gotta you got to have Empire in there . Exactly . I know. Like I don't know how much hopefully a lot of the ring of honor clips that they are reposting that are in your feed . Can you imagine if WWE actually I mean I understand they post stuff on the WWE vault on YouTube wouldn't it be great if they really embraced all the great footage they have from the years ? Sure . You know now more than ever if it don't make if it don't make TKO money, then it ain't going to fucking be getting worried about, I don't think, you know , I just they're not really I don't think they can f ucking say whatever they want. They are not a they are not a fan first their business model is not the fans first did you see that Tekla popped up in Japan at Stardom and well she attacked that fucking president again? That guy's got a fucking bullet a bullseye on his fucking head dude. She had to be f ucking detained and taken out. But hopefully she'll not be in a Japanese prison this Sunday when she takes on Starlight Kid at the Forbidden Door. Now that's a real forbidden door match. She talked shit about Stardom . Here comes the Stardom representative to try to shut her up. Spat on the Stardom logo. What a maniac . Absolute maniac. Do you think Teckler thinks about me? Um , I would have to imagine for sure It goes without saying. Do you think every so often she's like, God, who is that fucking cool guy I met at Russell Con? I wish all my meat and greets could be like that. Anyway , that was essentially what she did say. She was like, this was my favorite picture I took all weekend. I want to know if everybody that got a picture in order to from get her if she said, if you see me, if you see me again this weekend buy me a drink . Oh I could see I could see either way. That's a good move. when I went to dinner with Coharski and his daughter and Casey Corbin on whatever night that was when you went to fish Thursday night. We went to the steakhouse in the horseshoe and as we were being sat , we passed the bar and she was there with some people and Kharski was trying to see if our host would just sit us at the bar. But I said, God damn it, Jamie, now we're sitting at the table. We're not sitting over here by tackling them . You crazy son of a bitch. Should have sent a drink to her. That's Kharski's business. That ain't my business. I could care less, but Go ho . He's a deal maker. This guy's like one of the top, I think he's actually the top realtor in Florida . So look out if you need some realty realties . If you're trying to do a deal, if you're trying to get yourself a crib, you know, I think some real tea, then you got to get hold of Jamie Koharski. Mr Realty and I think Kharski needs to shave a mohawk and start wearing gold chains. He calls it right down the middle. Mr. Realty , he should get a whistle. A red shirt with overalls . I pity the fool that doesn't buy real estate from me, Mr. Real T . Yes, yes, yes . And much like Effie, he can hope that Mr T finds out and tries to sue him. It'll be good press. Is mister T still alive? I believe he is Let's check it out. Let's go to the tape. Mr. T. is seventy four years old . He's living large . Is he the only one left from the main event Maine one is Bob Orton senior bust up? Yeah, he's still alive. Cowboy. Cowboy's still kicking. Or he's not senior. He's junior . Yeah Yeah wow Everybody else is dead Everybody else is dead Vince taking nothing away from my world. I wish that Mercedes match with Hazuki would have been on the forbidden door and given a little time That was like a three segment match. I couldn't believe pretty cool, pretty cool. Hazuki's got it's got it in the ring, boy. Yeah, Hazuki's fucking good. Mercedes Mercedes you don't dig her, dude. No, no, no, I do dig her. I feel like she is either there's no in between it feels like with Mercedes. It's either a fucking killer match or it's a clunk. Interesting. Don't you think? I haven't thought about it that way, but I'm going to pay a little closer attention because you brought that to my attention, Matt. On Sunday I'm going to look right at this match. I'm not moving a muscle. Oh, please have a please board bathroom before the Mercedes Monet match . There's plenty of other matches on here for me to go to the bathroom during Moxley Moxley's done nothing. He's living out his pro wrestling fantasy. He wants to be Terry Funk . So his match with Bandito, what do I care now that now that bully rays got in my head ? Got me thinking, yeah, maybe Moxley is bullshit. Yeah . Maybe the Death Riders have done nothing for AW . What a load of shit. And because Mox has got Tony Khan's ear, he's doing whatever he wants . Maybe it's got to be it's got to be rough . It's got to be rough being like , you know , being in that being in that headspace of like I could still go. They won't let me go but I could fucking 's Dennis Stamp is what it is . You know? Oh, you talking about old Bully still? For sure. The other thing I wow, who gives a shit? Anyway , what? What? No, no, I don't I think kids want to hear it. No, I don't I don't feel like I should say it. But what I will say though is Kenny Omega Zach Saber Jr. That's going to be a baba banger, huh? Oh, that's going to be fucking phenomenal. I think that's going to have any bang ability on it . Big maximum bang ability . I think dynamite and collision has been fucking great. Minishir Kawa and Chris Statlander was just a delight on Saturday . I feel like I'm saying it for the first time every time I say it. I think Chris Setland is the most underwriter wrestler in professional first time you saw a dog . I really I can't broke, you need to put the filter back on your cigarette and wipe those glasses home boy. Crazy hell, you crave the hell . Stop cooking my sandwich, fool. Don't cook my sandwich . She's fucking unbelievable, dude. And you're saying she's the most underrated or what is she ? Underrated. Most underrated Chr,is Statlander. Yeah . Well, you better get hold of the once once Meltzer releases the year end awards, man . Throw it in there. Most underrated She totally is , I'll fucking, I'll tell Meltter what I think . Listen, Dave , enough of these interns writing articles . Dude, like that website, bro. I don't know. Like this happened, I think I have not been on the program since that happened, but there was like a morning. It might even been in , I think I was in Italy because like George is like, What the fuck's going on? I was like, this is this is fucking you're on vacation and I was like, George is like, what's going on? Why are you so one of the because the fucking the observer site now, they just have these people who like populate it with stories during the day and it's like any level trash a lot of times. I don't know, Dave, I think is just busy typing away on the actual observer and recording or something, but like yeah this f,ucking thing it was like , you know, unsubstantiated rumors as to why CM Punk is has not been on TV . And it was just this like here's what we've heard based on a Twitter account that's like, you know , sixty nine four twenty Metallica Street who claims to be a fucking mover and shaker said that maybe it's because and none of this is been confirmed or denied it's like this is a fucking I mean I could give shit about seeing punk but I'm like this is not even like fucking page six wouldn't touch this shit. This is the fucking lowest form of fucking and so I fucking emailed Meltzer. I was like, dude, what the fuck is this? I was like, this is this is terrible for you, your website, everything . And a while later, he replies, I already I already complain ed about it. That was his, that was his sentence back to me. I already complained about it. Like complained about it. It's your fucking website . Right. Tuck them out. Here it is. I took a screen grab of it just oddly enough before it was taken down . See him punk rumors flying around that are currently unsubstantiated. Okay, so there's what ? What is that headline There are a lot of CMP rumors doing the rounds right now regarding his absence from WWE programming. The claims are completely unsubstantiated right now, and we are treating them as such , just rumors. Then why are you writing an article? Why are we reading this? Yeah, why is this being published? There have been rumor accounts on X slash Twitter in the past that have got some scoops here and there , but we're working to try and find out more on this from our side . Okay, then wait until you do public the main source of this rumor appears to be from an ex account , which has been claiming to be the BA scoopster for some time now. We haven't had the chance to verify whether that's I was like insane. Fucking furious reading this because as a guy who as a guy who tries to defend Meltzer and his contributions makes it impossible when this dog shit is published on his website . And obviously he has a lot of people there that are working for him or that work for the whatever it is sure. But you can't can' thist, this , cannot. And did you screen grab the individual who was responsible for this fuck? Yes . Jake Scutter . But what also struck me like this this almost felt like something out of Widows Bay where I'm like wait I'm like wait what am I looking at? Is this a work? Am I because it's like when the when you do their little like at the bottom when it kind of like gives you your about the author type thing . It just goes on and on and on of just like he wrote on this website. He wrote on this website. He did this. And I'm like, what? That was like , Trust me, I tell you, there wasn't no fucking link to his email because I would have I was I that's who I was trying to email first . I couldn't find a fucking line of communication because I was ready to fucking lace that motherfucker. It honestly it felt like reading that article and how like what a complete nothing burger it was. I'm like I'm like one of two things is happening. One , it felt like when you go to Wikipedia and you happen to catch it like in the five seconds before something gets deleted and you're like, oh, somebody just fucking went in and like, you know, hacked this thing . Yeah. I remember one time I was looking at John Belushi's Wikipedia page. This is back when I worked at MTV and I couldn't stop laughing. I wish I stelled the screenshot like somebody wrote, John Beluci was the son of goat fuck ers. And I'm sorry unsubstantiated, but we 're subsantiated goat fuckers. So I was like, either this person has hacked into the website and is trolling meltzer. I'm like or this person like knows the or is aware of the Twitter account and is just like, dude, fuck you. I'm gonna fucking put you on bl ast or something . This my thing is it feels as though and this is based on other stuff that now pops up on there from time to time . Instead of there being , it feels like at least an overarching like editor where it's like, I have something I want to publish . Here it is, and they say, okay, and they either publish it or they clear it, whatever. It's like , okay, here's the keys . Like you are now able to write articles for us, here's the keys. And if you have something, just put it up. Go ahead. That's what it feels like. Because otherwise, like who there needs to be someone who's like, hold on , like maybe this isn't okay or let's not publish it's such a it's an insane waste of everything to have an artic le that's there are rumors that are unsubstantiated and then that's you're just repeating that over and over again with each passing paragraph. I'm like, this is insane. I'm like, yeah, they were especially bad. It was especially bad. It was extremely bad . 'Cause the other thing that sort of has started to crop up over there, which I don't have a problem with. I don't tend to read them, but they do have opinion pieces on there now . You know, where it'll be like maybe Chayuso shouldn't be this or that opinion. It'll say it'll say like in the post yeah where you click, you know, so you know like this is the person who's just like you know writing their opinion here's what I think now I'm guessing you didn't see the street profits win that that fucking tag team gold last night, did you? No No . Well, that's terrific . Yeah, prophets are up . Prophets are up. Valkyria is a heel now. A lot going on over there, man. Sola Seco cost Jimmy the match . It's the only way LA Knight can win a match . But instead of being there to help Jimmy seemed like he was helping LAIT, so the plot thickens, you know ? And that's the problem, isn't it? The plot thickening? Well, the plot's so thick, I can't even see Yeah, yeah, we make new movies maybe Night of Champions. That's where they'll now that you know that Vince is his suit is going to be ending here for him . Looks like he's going to tie up the loose ends on both of those the Yeah, he's he's settling with Miss Grant . I believe so, but I also think the shareholder thing is maybe getting wrapped up too. The shareholder thing seems like it's getting wrapp ed up. Get him back on TV , you know? Good god . Maybe put him with Austin Theory or do you think every morning he wakes up? I probably I don't even think he thinks about it when he first wakes up. I think it's at the end of the year . Are you suggesting I think leaps and gets up like a normal? That's fair . That's very fair. Whenever he whatever, yes. Yeah, they open when they open it whenever he decides it's safe . That's right. When the when the hermetic the, you know, the hermetically sealed tube down Brunouven rej ates in, slinks in and yeah . That's right. When downtown Bruno is done, like when he shakes Vince back into , you know, awareness and he just goes , Hey, boss, we finished transferring a teenager's blood into your body. You should be good to go. Another twenty four . And then I think today is the day I come back to TV . Right. I think yeah, I think he when he revives in the morning , he thinks hmm , got to get some protein. Gotta get in a pump production and I think yeah it's the last thing we'll do . But I think at the end of the day , when he's tired and he's furious that he's tired , you know? Yeah, that's what that's when he starts grumbling to himself. He's like, I should have just paid her . Oh God , if he had just paid her, I mean, all that stuff was coming out anyway because he stopped paying her because it came out . That's what happened. It was like a friend of hers sent the letter to the to the board. Isn't that the way the story goes? I couldn't tell you except that I know Vince McMah on is none too pleased with how much it costs to shit on another human's head these days The world is going to hell in a hand basket full of sh . The price of shitting on someone's head's going up . Jesus, you know, I tried to tell Donald I was like, leave the reflecting pool alone pal I mean, who you got in this owing cup final? You probably thinking swerve or you think it's gonna be the sex pig's time to shine . It's probably the sex pig. Got to be the sex pig. We're going to Weembley, right? You see it when was like I think it was before this recent surgery where I was like, you know what? Osprey's coming around. He's he's he's dialing in the promos . He , you know, because once once the promo work is there, he's the total package, you know . And then on Wednesday when he just has to go full sex pig about like you know, railing his wife and then telling her to clean herself up. Yeah she 's like, she's on the fuck I understand like that he thinks he's being funny but I'm like but he's also talking about another wrestler on the show. Right. That was him not even like a nameless faceless not that it makes it that much better , but you're just like, you're also yeah like I'm like this person has to work there and whether she thinks it's funny or not I'm like you do that in the in front of the wrong audience they're going to start chanting like clean yourself up, clean yourself up. Yeah, you know you're doing you're doing her no favors No, no favors I'm like it's just it's I'm like , God , why are you talking right now ? Which is not how I want to feel about Will Osprey. I'm just like yeah keep it just keep a chill. And you know the thing that I guess I don't know, maybe it's not as big a deal as it felt like in my mind, but when the Don Cao's family was all staying there and they were announcing who was going to be on MJF's team. June . Yeah, yeah. It like and maybe it's just that I'm more concerned about certain wrestlers who are trying to bread us or something. Well, no, but it's just like it did feel like a kickball game where you're like , yeah , not you Brian Cage . Nope, not, you know, like there's these guys who just have to stand there who aren't going to be on the it's like you didn't need to wheel the whole family out. They don't wheel the family out like that very often and it's like you do it here so that you're like oh these are the guys who aren't good enough to be on the team, you know that',s how it kind of felt to me but one hundred percent felt that way. And I don't know if it was intentional or not , but it is like there are guys in the front and then there are guys in the back . But I mean like clearly there was intent behind Trent starting to walk forward like he was being picked and then comedy he's the last one standing there just like despondent Yeah I don't know . I mean, I think it is also they are leaning into the idea of like clearly Tony think it somebody thinks it works having cracks in the foundation of the family, you know , that it was a thing with did it even have the family when when him and Kenny turned on each other . It was just the two of them, I feel like maybe or maybe he brought in it was definitely will ask Will Osprey for sure was a member of the family and it was like that was the first time you know he was doing the paintings and like they revealed the painting and it was like he had betrayed him and then they started rolling it with Takeshita, obviously . I don't know, it is it's something to do there's certainly so many people on that team that it's like , you know, it would make sense that there is this clash of egos that it's like, well, Kevin Knight wants the belt and but Kyle Fletcher just bumped him with his shoulder and Andre wants the belt as well and Trent's in the back he's upset and yeah I don't know that it necessarily has to lead to everybody leaving Don Kalas High and dry, but maybe not yet, but that's certainly a good conclusion to that story and then do almost like when they did like happy corbin poor Corbin when Baron Corbin was , you know , his shirt was untucked and, you know, there's like a snot bubble coming out of Don Callis's nose and If they did some vignettes for a month where Don Kallas was broke , what is the thinking of Brian Cage . Yeah, and you do one of these , you know, bodybuilder shows or whatever they call them. Yeah, what I mean, it's like , you know, it's like a Sonoma County Mud bath shade of tan, right? It's wild. And but it also doesn't seem like it seems like when he goes home and takes a shower, it then he kind of goes back to his normal tale like it's such a strange you don't stay that tan after the show. It's like just for the show . It's a paint job for the show, yeah. Paint job. Paint job. But I mean , it's like washing the dog after after going to the dog park where you're just like, oh my god, look at it all just pouring off. But also whatever they do , like as far as like getting the water out so that the you know, the muscle is right against the skin or whatever like and you couple it with the brown and like Cage looked he just looked insane He looked insane . He looked like honestly there, was some because then it's also like his eyes and his teeth are so white and the hair's kind of like spiked off and stuff . Yes. It reminded me of I don't know if it's your cup of tea but But did you ever watch Twilight's On The Movie ? It's been a long time It's been a long time . But they when they do the segment where the like the Billy Mummy kid like superpowers . Yeah, no, I'm picturing that's all I'm picturing my mind . Yeah . He looks like he looks like something like claymation that was used in Twilight's on the movie. Like it's there's there's a un canny valley almost to it where I'm just like he , let's just let's just call it what it is. We're acting like he's a man. He's not a man. He's machine. He's a machine . But in this condition, like in show condition , I don't even think he could I don't even think he could trick Tom Sibly into thinking it was a woman's butt . How did he rank and do we know how he did in the comedy ? He won was crowned he should have so this goes to show. I didn't even read the caption. I was just looking at the pictures. Got it gobsmacked. He was like mister Something or other , I don't know, I can't find it . Well, good. Congratulations to the swolverine. Big time. Good, I'm glad he won. He should win. Come on, he looks like man is due . Give the man his do . Can we get Brian Cage some flowers already? Do the do . Did you see Disclosure Day ? I did not, and once you gave me your review, I probably won't . It's the Dreslin Shits. Like look, watch it on an airplane, you know, there's some fun car chases. Elizabeth Blunt is amazing in it. I mean Emily Blunt is amazing in it both but the reason I bring it up is because the movie opens with a Brian Cage Lance Archer match. Right. Yes , yes . Looks like it's happening in, you know, the , you know And roll in Alexander's side of an alien ship? Garage or something. Yeah. I mean, it is a it's I don't know what venue they are in or what promotion or if it was just a sound stage, but it comes off like the APW or whatever that was Gym War Motion was. Yeah, gym wars, it comes off like a Gym Wars. Yeah. And you are , I'll see you outside thousand bucks as you don't show . I've got the it's so funny in my backyard now I have I have Barry Blasting's chair. I have the chair that I purchased for Barry to sit in at the at the show and now it lives in my backyard . Nice little padded number with arms at his request. Yeah , sure . Wow. Yep . But dare . I'm so glad that you you at least got to talk to him on the phone. Yeah . I wish we could have met him though. Definitely. Yeah, definitely . It's it's it's it's it's man the timing of it all still I can't I can't square the circle on it. I'm just like that it just wound up turning into , you know, this great night but also just I don't know, just McFoley and Barry getting together one last time was really the that wound up happening . Right? Yeah . Bit odd . Is it odd or is it god Vince ? Young bucks , mystico and Mascara Dorada and Shingo and Titan, dude, that's a little bit of a fucking three way tag right there . There's going to be a couple of high spots in that, whether you like it or not, dude. You know what? I think I don't want to I don't want to just assume I think somebody might do some flippy shit some flippy shit on for certain bro . I really think there's going to be some flippy shit. You better get right with it dude because it's happening either way . You dig . I don't think you're going to be able to handle this how are they going to do this twelve people in a cage in one cage match ? It's not a double ring show, is it? No . Yeah gonna get a little f ucking busy in there, I think . This is more people than are than that are in war games and they're just gonna be in one cage . Yeah Yeah , I don't know, man . I don't know. That's a good question . That is I mean, obviously , you know, there's no illusions. Obviously they're going to be fighting all over the building . Sure . Something tells me they're not all going to get in there at the same time , but would love it if it was a double if it was a double because what would be funny too is if it if it winds up being a double cage like a, double ring cage match . Yeah , they're just doing without saying it and who needs to say it. They're doing WWE's version of war games . Right . You know , it need not be said Say no more . Also since this is part of our job, I'm just going to go ahead and once again for the Socal fans who happened to listen to this show . Remind you that Pretty Peter Avalon's new promotion called More Wrestling running live july twenty third at Sid the Cat in Pasadena seems like it's gonna have a bar wrestling vibe but on sale right now. Hopefully with one hundred percent less sexual misconduct . Yeah that's what we're hoping so hopefully we'll get some matches announced here before too long for the brand new Moore wrestling come on Eddie you're going to that one for fuck's sake I am I am. When is it again? I know it's in my calendar. It is on Thursday, july twenty third . So you better get ready, bro. Yep , no, it's right there. No excuses . It's right there . And then when we go into Raw, that following Monday on the twenty seventh. That's the Monday Monday, bro ad, I got to the only bummer about ever going to the into a dome is I got to fucking like re do like the facial recognition technology or whatever on my phone? Yeah, I'm also going to have to update your vehicle because I got your old vehicle in here. Remember the camera got yeah. Gotta give them all the info or you can or not allowed, not allowed . I'll what do I need to? I'll text you my license plate number . Yeah, I'll figure out what the what the necessary in formation happens to be. And we'll rock it. You want to ride? Rocket. We're going to rocket. Tonight we're going to rocket. You want to ride? Yeah, dude. Hello, hello, hello . You want to ride a pretty Peter Avalon show ? Oh , maybe . How about I drive you both places? Well, hey, man, something cool is gonna happen. I promise you that . Something always does , something always do . But I fucking love it, dude. Anything else cool happening that I forgot about? I'm trying to think. I mean , I'm all for Jericho and Champa's feud just wrapping up quickly . Oh yeah, not feeling the Y two jizzo. Uh, I mean, I'm sure the m atch. I don't know. I don't know if I'm sure of anything anymore, but like it feels like they'll have an interesting match, but I am I was saying this to the kids the other week like Jericho as a babyface at this point in his at least this incarnation of him as the baby face. Yeah . It's There's just a hollowness to it. I'm like, I'm not I don't buy any of it. Waiting for him to turn . Well, it's not even so much that I'm waiting for him to turn as much as it is is I'm it just reminds me of like when Bobby when Roddy Piper was a babyface in like you know nineteen eighty nine , nineteen ninety one where you just kind of like I'm just uncomfortable . You know? Yeah, I mean I think also because there's just a lot of a lot of hate in people's hearts out here for Y two J these days I'm not one of those people but I know a lot of people don't like . I'm not one of those people either. I mean, and I'm certainly, you know , I just sent you a hilarious photo that 's like somehow this got posted that Chris Jericho was at a World Cup match and it is it looks more like Axel Rose than it does . Oh my gosh that is the most insane photograph of any one I've ever seen in my life. So great . Oh my god . That's great . Wow, he looks insane Whoever he is , wishing him well . You know how we 're also weird that like the way that what is that called a Syron the little box with his name on it. Oh yeah, I don't know what it's called . The top of the shirt doesn't line up with the bottom of the shirt so it like it makes it look like his waist is has been artificially squeezed in right . So insane That's great . I love it though I'm here to tell you, dude. I'm here to tell you Vincent The week that was a slow week. What do you want to? I mean , man. I think we had a fantastic episode. No, I'm not saying we didn't have I mean feel like I need to talk about did we do what we did. Not just feel. We had a fantastic episode and the people are going to be talking about it for years to come. How about Jim Ross being in the hospital for like twenty two days or something Heard he left to go call no AW he had a c atheter in there that it was after that last appearance that apparently he's he had another fall and he's in Yeah he's he's been in the hospital for a few weeks. Yeah, he's not doing well which I hate to hear. Is he not doing well? I think if you're in the hospital for a month, it's not because you do half that's a good point. That's a decent poke I don't think it's because of his charming personality that they have him hanging around . Right. That's fair. I heard it was he like he had fallen. He went in just to get checked out and then they said you can't leave. Yeah . So not well. Yeah . So our best goes out to good old JR. Sure ain't no doubt about it Why can't he just do a podcast? I would listen to a Jim Ross podcast every day. Like I would enjoy it so crazy to say this. You don't listen to does he? Yeah, he doesn't podcast. He still does a podcast with fucking like Conrad every week . Oh, well that's the problem. I don't need the Conrad factor. Well does he really? Yeah . They're constant. That's how we know he's in the hospital . You like reported live from grilling with JR weekly pro yeah, he's fucking he's doing it, bro. Historically they do the deep dive man. That's why Conrad loves to shit on Dave Melzer because he has an entire show because of the observer. He has exactly he has an entire fucking empire. Yeah . It's his entire empire . No, I had no idea that still existed and I have no desire to listen to anybody talk to Conrad or to have Conrad, you know, lead the witness Come on. Now what do you want? I'm just talking in a vacuum. That's what I was going to say. If it was just Jim Ross, free associ ating because he probably never I don't know. Do you ever listen to it? I haven't, I don't listen to any podcasts . But what I'm saying is like the moments , I feel like it's you get some of those moments on our show where you just get to know the person a little bit, right? But Cnoret , there's nothing more fascinating to me than him just explaining his piccadillos about two brand new puppy dogs . See, I didn't know that. You know, they lost their other dog and so they got two new ones . They're clearly shopping, not adopting. They've got the two of the exact same breed puppies, but they are just overjoyed with their two new dogs at the Cornette House, the Castle Cornet. What's the breed? Any idea? I think it's a Pomeranian show dog. It's a fucking show dog and f ituc'kings p apers . I'm telling you this dog these not pomeranians, dude. It's not it's not bowling, dude. Not buying it a fucking beer. It's a fucking show I think it's a pomeranian, Donnie. I'm just saying hearing Cornet talk about like what he does when he gets into a hotel room or what he keeps in his car or that he knows that if I could hear Jim Ross talking the weird shit he does in his house , you know , in addition to because I can't stand him on commentary, but if I was listening to him I could listen to him shit on the product if it was just him talking . Right. If I think that's maybe the difference with the problem . Him and Cornette? Oh yeah, Him and Cornet . No, Conrad. Oh , okay. I can listen to Brian Last talk to Jim Ross . I don't I don't mind Brian. Conrad is off putting . I'm just trying to find a picture of this Pomeranian dude Where okay, here's one of them Okay , wait a minute maybe not hold on Where I mean where am I seeing these photos? And then when I go Oh , here we go. I don't know if you can be able to tell from this photo or not . You see there's two dogs there? Do you see the two dogs? The two dogs behind me . Here we go. I think we're in the I think we're in the hunt now. Here's one. This will be a better image. Is that a Pomeranian? I'm amazed I'm going to say yes . I'm more see I'm more taken with Cornette like laying down on the floor like that. I mean, like I wouldn't want to lay down on the floor like that because you know the getting back up, but like he's got that blown out knee . Okay, so and the names of the dogs . Oh boy Cornett named one? Okay. His wife named one. Okay . The first dog's name is Nature Boy Buddy . Okay . They are Pomeranian. Nature Boy Buddy, Catrass in here . Don't shit on the goddamn floor again. Who did this? Who did this? Nature Boy Buddy, you know who did this? And his brother, Alfred Puddensworth . What? That's an amazing name for a dog. Alfred Puddensworth That's incredible . I had Stace all wrong. Alfred Puddensworth . I will also say that my one thousand percent my, favorite fucking Twitter account is Mance Warner. The dude's just like he's he's just a fucking wordsmith . Y'all think of y'all know you're tired when you order a crunchy soft taco a taco bell and I said it twice and the silence from the person taking the order spoke volumes Mance Warner Do you think he when he threw away the CED I gave him? Do you think he threw it away in the building or do you think he left with it ? Oh , do you do you think he even bothered putting in the trash? Do you think he just left it sitting on a chair ? Yeah just it may not have when we turned and walked into the other part of the venue, it may have never left that location. Yeah . I believe it was an officer and a gentleman was the film . I believe it was that and a bag of cinnamon . Cinnamon, which also did not factor into the match . No , but hey, man , we tried. We brought weapons. We really tried our best. They chose not to use them. That's not what are we supposed to do ? I gave it to him and I was like, You should hit him over the head with this . And he's like, But he's my partner. I'm like, yeah, you guys don't get it. You don't get wrestling . Vince, who's your favorite wrestler? Man's Warner . Well, it's definitely his excount. I think I'm most excited to see Mistico on Sunday. So I'm going to say Mystico . I'm going to say Mark Briscoe. Yeah, Mark Brisco, who you gonna get that title shot, I think. I think I mean, he's got to get a title shot out of it. I don't know if he wins . I could see him winning. Come on, Mark . Darby Sauser Chicken. Yeah, give Mark a run. Yeah . Yeah . That's cool, man. So well, that's cool. Vince Aberrill on Twitter, Vince at Aberl on Instagram. Shit like that Palmat McCarthy say Following all forms of social media at McCarthy Redhead. I'm flying Thursday , but the show Friday . So we'll figure out our point five. Where are y'all headed ? The Carolina's to Flare Country. Hell yeah, maybe we have I think we're doing Durham and then driving to Charleston . Ah, yeah, making towns. Love it. Makin' towns. . Um my dog dude. My dog's going crazy. Is there someone attacking Okay, man. Hey, man, Patreon on Patreon, we'll see you later. Kata for now.