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For generations, advanced auto parts has been there, with all the right parts to get us to life's good parts. Because, like you, we're driven by the good parts too. So no matter the reason, the road, or the ride, more than 90 years later, We're always here to advance that unstoppable American drive. Visit your local Advanced Auto Parts today. It's it's uh got an email that you get an award a few weeks ago. That's great ago and we thought it'd be PE again. Like yeah or Latin She's really good at Latin. I mean Latin. She got this math award. She took this test and finished 30th percent in the nation. And like she didn't get that from either one of us. Not math. Yeah we're like even she she was like Yeah. Okay. My math stopped when I said, Oh, I just got screwed on that payoff. That's where my math stopped. I think we should do a TikTok, you know, to post before this podcast comes out. Definitely do TikTok. Yeah. What what's going on? Think of a good dance move. I'm not trying I don't I'm not in there with I'm not down with the TikToks. Is it TikTok? TikToks. TikTok TikTok. It's like the polices. We call them the polices. But you agree with me though. Yeah, TikToks. No, the polices. No. The polices? Nazis. No, I don't. If you did agree with me earlier. With the deer too, right? Yeah. If you see the deer. If you see five deers. There's deer. There's five deer. Count the deer. There's one, three, five deer. Your English is just rode over in the grave. It's plural, right? With the S on it. It's more than one, right? Well, normally, but not. There were many deer. It's more singular. There were many deers. We should just be filling. There's a lot of deers. I guess English and math I didn't do really. I'm not afraid, or is my family afraid to butcher. The English language at all. Huh? Oh bro. You should hear you should hear my mom. My mom talk. Okay, my too. Okay. I thought I thought I was in high school before I thought I b before I learned it wasn't pronounced Hawaii. Okay. Who's in Hawaii? Huh? Your mom said Hawaii. Oh yeah. But that's what Granddaddy said. Hayawai. That's what Ha Hawaii. Hayawai. Hawaii. That's saying it. He just stopped saying how do you pronounce MRS? Like MRS dot? Like if you're Misses, right? Misses, right, yeah. Misrers. That's how he said it into like. Miseres. I was like Miseris. He's like, you know, like MRS. I'm like He wanted to pronounce every meta he saw. It was always so confusing when they came up with Ms. That's like M I S, right? No M I M S. MS. Ms, Ms. Miz. I'm confused on as far as the the whether once married, single. MS is single. Right? Because you don't know the difference between M I S and M S. I don't know. I know, but in my own. I wouldn't go, excuse me, M or I guess I could. So then who S me what Like a young lady, maybe? I don't know. No, that's an older one. She's mature. A mature male. Yeah. Excuse me, miss. Excuse me, miss. And he has he has letters like if you go Across the street. Like he adds letters like he says across. I don't do that anymore. I don't know, not anymore. Across the road. She's throwing thrown that on the road. Across the road over there on the other side. Anyway, this is a WWE and Fanatics original production. I am the OD, original dead man. And uh this is my beautiful co-host, Michelle Money McCool, uh, and our guest today, my goodness, probably the most decorated champion. Uh if not the most decorated champion, he's gotta be in the top five for sure. A three time Tag team champion, currently champion, two time United States champion, a two time hardcore champion, a two-time Slammy Award winner. And outside of the WWE, a two time NWA world heavyweight champion, a two-time NWA world tag team champion. And one time TNA World Tag Team Champion, but the biggest one, this is the one that puts you over the top. A fifty three time. 247 champion. By far the most in WWE history. Run. The truth. Killings. My man is having me, Mitt. So happy you're here. 53 times? You crashed weddings and stuff, didn't you? I thought we were 54, but yeah, 53 though. Not good at math. We said that. We'll double check it. And if it comes up 54, we will we'll we will correct. We put that on the candle at our cookout. Yeah, we having a cookout mean takeoe. Well let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. No we've been talking about this cookout though for like a year. Take it not one to do it. I don't I don't know what's what's the hold up, but you know he's being like okay we can do we can't do can't do the cookout be great to you well yeah no if the cookout you're more than welcome to come to the house and bring some people well that's the brand bring some people like i i'm gonna need a i'm gonna need a guest list Okay. I mean I I get you on the gas list. Yeah. I I I get it. I get it. Right. Yeah. Could you go bring Joe Bros you work with, and I'm I mean Wow. Just the good ones. Just the good ones. The cool ones. The cool ones. Right. Mysterio. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Right. What about Dom? Dom can you. Can the two can the two be in one place? Okay. Dom Come. Dom can come. Yeah. Solo with all them guys. Oh yeah. That's a lot of food. It is right. Hey, else right there, brother. There's a lot of meat going, right? So my probably We're gonna make a guest list after everybody. Yes. You two. You two have been talking about this for years. We included you too. No, I hear you talking about it, but I don't really think that I'm I don't think I'm too I don't think I'm included in the uh No he's included. Very included. I'm gonna have to dig the pit and put all the We gonna have our aprons together. Aprons, the spatulas, ride some dirt bikes, ride some four wheels, dirt bikes. No, no, because we're gonna be grilling. A dip in the pillows. Everybody else gonna be running around doing everything while we're gonna cook. And we're gonna cook. And we're gonna do the white album. The whole thing started with um Mitch asked me about the white album. And I said, you know what? I want you to take it to hear it. I want y'all to listen to it. And then we're like, oh, we should have a cookout at the house. Like, cookout? That's a great idea, Mitch. I think you came up with it. So we said we're gonna have a cookout. Do the white album, invite the people. Dun deal. You know what? I mean. I have to do this first. Oh, this is traditional. I've been around the game for a long time, y'all. And and take No man, I was watching you when I was a kid. No, but take it is it Take it. He hit me with that. He did, he did. I love you, bro. A mini I even I can even try with it. A meaning. My bad. All right. Go ahead. Again. Oh go ahead. Just go ahead. Okay. For y'all don't know. Take with take it to General. He's the sergeant. He's the He's the guy that ran the locker room. When you did wrong, when there was court cases, when there was anything. If you wanted to get on the guy's good side. You had to bring them somebody else. And not meaning you're gonna be on the good side. But just that it helps. It helps it softens it. It softens. It helps. I appreciate that gesture of You you never went to wrestler's court though. I didn't, but I I don't even think he remembered this. Remember that time you put me in check? Oh do tell, do tell. Oh I can't remember what I had for breakfast. Oh my gosh, what happened? I don't know if it was a chamber, it was a match we had. Um I was right with Ray Mysterio. And Ray wanted some a latte. He wanted some coffee. I don't doubt that. I don't doubt that. Ray wanted to get some kind of coffee. And okay, cool, get the coffee, but we was late. And I was in a pay per view match with Taker, Sean. Oh it was a big match. It was a lot of people in the match. It was like four to five minutes late. Oh no. And everybody everybody was in the ring when we got there, right? And uh Tank was just sitting there like Like he was harmless, like it just it was Taker. He just sitting there and I came in shaking everybody's hand. Hey, what's up, Sean? What's up, Chef? What's up, you know what I'm saying? Well I got it, Taker. When he gave me that and pulled me in. Remember that? He pulled me in. Very disrespectful. Oh, you got this man, you got that man, you got him waiting on you for the pay per view. Ooh, ouch. Two drops of pee came out. You know what I'm saying? Cause it was, you know what I'm saying, like not only disciplinary, but it was just the position I was in, the the opportunity I was I was having with these caliber of guys, and it's taker. He's cool than a fan, but it was when he had to like each other grits he was gonna eat your grits. Not two drops of pee though. Two drops came out. Yeah. Two drops came out. Two drops of pee. I guess the message was received, I guess. Received well. Did you see did you see any of the courts in action? No, I will hear about them. Oh yeah. You will hear about them. I'm Ray Ray had me. It's neither here nor there. But uh Wait, it's here. The court cases was like Jack Daniel was one of the main things that was needed at the Corey C if you want to have your It was fun. But it was the It was the boys and it was the way of like taker handling. And control in the locker room in a playful way. Right. But the damn hammer was down. You knew it was no games. You knew. Yeah. It was a way of sending the message without having to be really ultra heavy and like, dude, you you're screwing up here. Like so we we have you have an option. And then that's a test is as well, is like how you how do you receive this. Like so, you know, back then we were on the road, worked all the time. We you know, people get people get a little short and they get a little a little high strong sometimes. So you need you needed a little bit of of of levity. um sometimes in in keeping everybody on the on the on the right plane. And it wouldn't be like, hey, you know, you gotta do this, you gotta do that. But there is a decorum to what we do. Yes. Time is time is important and and and respecting these guys in the in the locker room. And I think You know, I I I think a lot of people here, you know, we so many guys have talked about wrestlers court, and I think, you know, they oh man, it was, you know, it was it was a you know, it's it it's a it's a bullying thing and it was like is that no, it's a it's a way to let you know. The you screw it up a little bit and we're just gonna bring it to you in this manner. But you might want to get your you might wanna get your shit together. Yes. Because the next time we got to talk about this, it's probably not gonna be as pleasant. That's it. Right? So you know what? Everybody's in a good mood. Now I now some of them some of the restored squirts, because there's a lot sometimes there was personal personal beefs and they could get a little they could get a little tense but the overall like the overall objective to wrestler's court was to handle an issue but not make it a issue so never come to never go above or beyond it was just always right there with the boys. And the way you handled it, man, it was like. It was professional. It was teaching professionalism. It was teaching respect. It was teaching to Corum. It was teaching so much to new talent. Like myself, K Quit coming in. And the guys that were still there that would still be the guys. You just kept us straight, man. It was. Almost like it was, you kind of want to go to wrestling court just to like, you know what I'm saying? Like but it was it wasn't what you thought it was, but it was what was needed. You feel me? Yeah there was some back then. Back then, yeah, back then. Yeah, it was yeah it was Yeah, I'm trying to think. Like Some ones that got a little more. Tense. Molina? Oh. But that was that one. That was that one. Oh. Oh, I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Oh yeah Melina was involved in that she was uh the one where where's the one where Charmell got so hot? She was in that one. It always happened that happened in Australia. That started in Australia. Wait, was it Austria? Wait, wait, wait, was it Austria or Australia? Because we were on that tour. Oh, was that your first flip up? Like the big Yeah Because it didn't become a thing after that, right? It was it was. That was so freaking funny. I legit. I guess I can do it with your mom. I didn't know there was a difference. But we I'll never forget we were cracking up backstage. You came back and just so happened MVP was right there too and Mark was like Banks. He said, You know the difference between Australia and Austria? You're like, Man, he m he read too many books in prison. Yeah, that was your response and I'll never forget it. They start with an A, they both, you know, they sound the same. We were the greatest was the the conviction for which you said it. You were so So confident and kept repeating it right. I was proud. Yeah. Yeah. I can almost see it in your face like, why are they not popping? Like they should love me. There's Australia, right? Yeah, that was funny. No. No, but no. Yeah right now. Same thing. Same thing. Yeah, same thing. Just different continents. Oh, most, right. They start off the same. Oh, confusion. I mean, you know, put an L or something in there. You you're right there. Exactly. Too many letters in there. Take one or two out and you got two. But back to that that that court case in Australia with Yeah. But the thing that cr always uh stands out that was that was tense. And it was almost like It it was almost needed. I don't know if you remember. Were you you were in there, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where Larry Heck came in with the big platter of drinks. Yeah, we had been in there so long. I mean, this platter was this big and it was full. It was full of shots and everything else. And he's walking up and the and we were in a the room, it was well, it was a little bigger than the studio, but it wasn't a big room, but there were a lot of people in there. And he tripped. He tripped and spilt that whole tray of drinks. He almost we almost stopped that case and brought him up. I was so hot. We we had been in there a while and and it w again it was the the atmosphere was it was a little tense and I'm thinking, Oh my gosh. I got you know 'cause that we're we' w that's what two thousand Seven. Sevenish. Yeah. So you know, everything was you know that was one of the that was one of the the the restless court had It it there were less days coming than there had been. Yes, yes. It was kind of becoming a kindler, kinder, gentler a era. And um So yeah, that tray spilling everywhere. And I I just remember looking at him and him looking up at me. It was just like you had one job. You had one job, Larry. He feels like the whole thing, Larry. The whole thing. I think he just turned around, walked back out, and started I don't know how much money was on that tray. There was a that was full. It was I felt bad for him. Uh I did for a second. For a second. That was just hot. I'm gonna I I'm gonna need a little extra uh judge reasoning here to to get out of this situation. Yeah, right? Holy smokes, man. We've all been there. When hunger strikes and you're exhausted, there's something healthy in your fridge that you should be making, but you just don't have it in you. For me, eating healthy isn't a willpower problem. It's a setup problem. Until I found Factor. With Factor, I'm hitting my nutrition goals this season without the planning. Grocery runs, or cooking. Factor has meals built around your goals. 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Their friendly guides can help. Find what you love and love what you find only at Total Wine and More. Total Wine and More in store or online. Spirits not sold in Virginia and North Carolina. Drink responsibly. Be 21. You've been here a minute, man. I have. You came in first when in 2001? Oh seven. Oh six, oh seven is when I first signed. With W. I came right towards the end of the Attitude Era. And um I love in Two thousand? You know, with the DNA. Uh Italy, Mexico, and then came back. You worked in I didn't know you worked in Mexico. Where did you play? You're speaking. If you speak Spanish. Vive un poquito. Yeah. Hola. Me llamo Lavinada. Oh okay. I can work with that. Okay. Seyama. Sayama. No, Miyama. Oh, Miyyama, yes. Hey, we're gonna teach Spanish next. We're gonna teach Spanish. Oh I can't. Ray can help us. Yeah. Were you on that tour that the volcano erupted? Yes. Both our buses broke down? Do you remember were you on the bus with uh it was me, Ray, Glenn was on the bus when we finally pulled up in Paris and we all had to run off the bus. Do you remember when Steamboat turned around? 'cause our driver spokan and steamboat turned around a Ray. Do you remember we were doing the train of mug and he turned he turned around a Ray and goes, Ray, speak that language you speak that language to him, Ray. We gotta go Speak that language to him, Ray. He goes, speak that language you speak. And like we were so done after twenty seven hours that we We had two buses that broke down. Barely got up the hill. The guy was driving the bus and it was smoke coming out of the bus, everything. And when the driver of the bus does this... Yes, he did, he did. It's there, right? Do you remember when we f we like we stopped at a gas station. For a bathroom break because we didn't have bathrooms that whole entire time either. And they're like, Y'all got two minutes. Yes. Because we were gonna miss every single shutdown of the airport. Like we'd already taken trains and cars and plants. That was wild. And we was on the side of the road for a while too, right? I remember Jericho was like on the in the middle of the bus with his feet up. Glenn was in the aisle. Yes. Just drinking beer. No food. We had nowhere to go. No food. Yeah. Oh yeah that was crazy, I forgot about that. We had to ride that train. We had to ride a train. My first time ever riding a train. Same, me too. That thing was fast. But boy. Yeah, I was so dry. I missed that one. I won't forget that one. I won't forget. No. I said, what he did. He did the cross for Ricky. I said, we gonna die. And Ray listened to everything he's saying and, you know, being able to translate it. But yeah, that was Oh man. That was horrible. Wow. Speak that language you speak. Oh yeah. The volcano tour. It's all glamour, man. It's all glamour. No one ever thinks about those kind of trips and uh and the uh and the things that you have to go through sometimes to get where you gotta get. Fortunately I was at home on that loop. So and Roll had it bad too, but they were in the same spot. Like they just got to stay in their hotel. Right. And then we landed. And had to go straight to TV and just all sorts of out of it. But did you hit the pop when we took off? Oh, we were so excited. Because we had like only a few minutes to spare. Oh, y'all were y'all were those people that clapped when you didn't were clapping. Oh, one thousand percent. We were running through it was Paris. We found was it Paris? I don't know, but literally we only had a few minutes. Oh, remember that they started circling once we got there? They couldn't find which terminal we were supposed to be in, so we finally think we've made it. We're gonna take off. And they miss our enterprise. Everybody wanted to jump on the driver because they were fumbling around. Oh god. He was trying to make sure we're in the right place. Oh man. But bro, if you don't get us in the right place right now, you're gonna lose like it was calm down. Trying to find a place. I'm trying to find it. I'm trying to find. I can imagine at that point the the boys had had all they were gonna take. When Glenn gets hot. You know it's Glenn got hot? Glenn got hot. Oh He had to run too. We almost run it. Oh God. If if if Big King got hot, then you yeah. Oh, he was hot. Oh man. Could you imagine the big way when she just running through the airport and all we all with our luggage, everything just Oh, that was so funny. That was crazy. Oh I remember years ago we were we landed in in I think it was which one's the bigger one in Heathrow? Is Heathrow bigger than Gatwick? Yeah Heathrow In in Heathrow. We landed in Heathrow and we had to go across the airport to catch another flight to go. I think we were going up to Ireland or somewhere like that. And Big Yoke, man, bless his heart. Like he just gasped out. He just he just stopped. He just stopped. Yeah, he had to catch another flight. You laughing, Michelle. I was not laughing. I didn't laugh. I just was snickeling. Yeah. Snickeling. Snick. Snick. It was bad, man. I got on the plane. I was like, dang, I should have stayed. I was tired too. Like it was like he just like That's a big airport though. It's huge. Yeah. And they should have had some kind of they should have had some kind of transportation. This is back in the day, man. Nah, you wouldn't get no cars right now. You ain't getting no carts. You ain't getting picked up at the on the gate on the jet way. None of that stuff that that that we get later on. But back then, man, you just all foot. All foot escalators. Running. Yeah, and it was and we were running. We wouldn't shoot one of the worst airports is Charlotte. Charlotte's spread out and they don't have all the things. No, one of the airports is Orlando. Oh yeah. And Denver's pretty big too, right? Denver's Denver's long. That's a big airport. Yeah. If you get some. Did you you grew up in Charlotte. So you've been there your entire life? Never? Never moved? I lived in uh Nashville. Okay. Uh Memphis, Georgia. But just right, I see it. No of course I I don't think I'm going nowhere. What was it like growing up there? It's hospitality there. Yeah. By text. We still say yes, ma'am, no ma'am, yes sir, no. Y'all still say that? Oh yeah. People are crazy. I'll tell you what, uh if when I grew up If say we're at the dinner table and my mom asked me something and it was like a yes or no answer, and I would go, Oh yeah. I'd look up, my dad'd be looking at me like, boy, Gar Yes, ma'am. And I didn't actually say he didn't have to tell me what to say. I knew exactly what I needed to say. All I had to see was his eyes and look like Yes, ma'am. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Yes, sir. No man. That's and you know. I'll do like I still do it. Me too. I still I still say yes ma'am and no ma'am. People like, are you in the military? I was like, no, I was raised by a man that said you you didn't absolutely Yeah, it's it's just one of those it's a I think it's a it's a southern. It's a southern. Yeah um and of course every place got its bad spots. Good spots, bad parts, but North Carolina man like going from grammar school to high middle school to high school to Making all my mistakes, learning all my lessons, growing up as a man, becoming a man, having kids and The college has my heart. Yeah. All my experiences, all my accomplishments, my failures, my successes. It's just. And you played sports in high school, didn't you? Football, track? Football and I ran track. But music was always your music was my love. Yeah. That was your passion. Yeah, it was the way I I I could express myself. You can communicate with people. You can Um Educate people. You can give people comfort. Like a lot of my music now, like uh I guess so much music like, oh man, the white album has helped me in times of depression and times of um I've lost this person in my life. And because all my music speaks about is is You know, being your own cheerleader. Life ain't gonna always be roses and cherries. It ain't gonna be sweet, but you know what I'm saying? Like you got the power, you got the strength to do it be if I did it, anybody can do it. And my music pretty much expresses how I feel, how I you see on TV. The music is pretty much all the truth, is Ron Killing. I love that. But who instilled that in you? Your mom? I mean you're you're such a I was saying my mom, my dad did. My mom, my dad, my family, um Being around the right people. I mean, and I think we as humans we get a chance to be around the wrong people too. We pick up bad habits or we see worse habits than the ones we got. Yeah, you're not justified yours. Yeah, right. I ain't doing that. I definitely ain't doing that. Well, at least I don't do that. Well But it's like, I don't know, it don't take much to be just. Respectful. Be a good person, be a good human, want to help somebody, somebody help me. I was in a halfway house when Jack Crockett saw me. How many people help you in a halfway house? Not many. You know, and I was asking, I won't forget, it's so funny. When I turned him down the first time, he I was on the phone I was like, man, I just I just want you to invest the money in my music career. All I want to do is invest in my career. Jack Crockett from WCW, yeah. Bro, you can invest the money in my career. He said, don't forget how special place I met you at. Oh he dropped it back on you. Nobody just gonna give you money. Yeah because you say you have a dream or you you're talented. You can I'm gonna give you opportunity to Explore your dream and make it happen for yourself. You can invest in yourself. He believed in me. Like oh man, and then when when I did the twenty four thing and WWB uh found him and and I saw him again, it just it struck up all those old feelings of like. being out of high school, getting with the wrong people, the wrong crowd, making those mistakes, um, not knowing what you want to do with your life, man. Like that's I know how it feels. So it's it's easy to reach people or I can see it. I I know that. I know how it looks and and walks to not know what you want to do with your life, but you want to do something. I don't want to do that. I want to be this. I want to. Seeing Jack Crockett brought all those back up because I gave up on me. Mm-hmm. When I see road dog, I gave up on me. Well uh instead of you don't even know like when I saw him being uh I don't even want to talk about because it gets emotional but I saw you're good for views. Go ahead. He just said me. He's in here talking about you know it costs nothing to be kind of people. No I'm invested in your story. I really am. But I need some views too. You help me. Okay. I help you. You help me. Okay. Help me, help you, help me. But no, um when I see road dog every time it's like a To give up? Like think about it. I met Jack Crockett coming from the streets, you know what I'm saying? Like a a and selling and do this and that, but to believing something and believing yourself. It didn't happen. I got signed to a contract and when I met Roll Dog in uh Memphis, My contract was done then. This is back when Kelly, Kevin Kelly was there and all that stuff. You know what they're saying was my contract was coming up. I hadn't already gave up because I was having issues at in Charlotte at home and uh my mind wasn't there in in Memphis in developmental and I was like, I'm ready to quit, man. I'm not made for wrestling. I'm not. Man, the words that he spoke to me and just to have somebody believe in you means a lot. It didn't take a bunch of people. He believed in me and said, hey, man, you got what it takes. You got to hold on. You got. Give me, can you give me two months? I'll have you out of here. It's just. took me under his wing to have somebody. give a damn about me. It just like that's powerful to me. I've I've heard a quote somebody say, people helping people is a powerful thing. And I've gotten where I'm at in life. by good energy and good people. And that's just up my ball ways like instilled. That's awesome. If you have one person. If you just have one that believes in you and has no ulterior motive, just believes in the person, I mean that's all it takes. That's all it takes. Don't take a lot. Don't take a group, just one. So you didn't have So wrestling wasn't you were you a fan of wrestling or just I was a fan of it. I was aware of it. I was I love Nikita Kolov, uh Ron Simmons, JYD. Uh Rick Steinboat, Magnum TA, I loved all of Dusty, but I just it wasn't like I want to be a professional wrestler. Right. Never was. Professional wrestling came about from Jack Crockett. And again, it goes back into me knowing how to tap. and and relate to those type of people, not only not know uh those type of people that don't know what they want to do with their lives or they want to do something or this and that. It's just, it never was my thing. But sometimes you have to take a different route to get where you want to go. And wrestling was my different route. It saved my life. It got me out of the streets. It taught me the current. It taught me how to be a man, how to be professional. I I've toured around the world because of wrestling. I've wrestling has suited me up for life. And There's people that that's all they want to do in this business is wrestle. There's so many things that I want to do, wrestling with a avenue and a tool that my higher power gave me to use for, man, when I see people and they say, bro, I grew up watching you. You're my hero. I was going to my mom. Yeah, you hit me again. You're good. You good. In case you missed it the first time. Yeah. But it is. Wrestling Man has has Brought so much to me. taking a different route that you never would expect. the different route you take, maybe the route you put to be taken a long time ago. You don't even know that. You won't know it until you take it. Sure. And we always wonder like, one thing I learned from Still is like, I sometimes will say, oh I wonder what will happen if we could be say why I wonder about it. Let's do it. It that it can't, it's done, it's over. Go here. Go there. Go where you know. Don't go where it's been where you already know it's not gonna be. We're about one heel at a time. Rice? Well, So how okay, so br bring me up to speed. So how did how does Crockett how does he find you? How does he I'm now I'm I'm now I'm invested in in a story I don't I don't I don't know. I'm um we're in a halfway house and I'm I'm telling jokes. This is a little corner over there where the inmates at. We got the way we got a little bench set. And I'm over there telling jokes and dancing. Crockett will come in. Every day at six o'clock, he'll be up for like a couple of hours, two, three hours, he'll go to bed, he would wake up, five, he would be gone all day. So that that was his workerly schedule. So he would come in, not knowing he was watching me. Um this is a true story. The deputies They saw my pictures with Tupac Shakur and Easy E and all these rappers and they're like, bro, you're not supposed to be in here. You're supposed to be out there, you know, doing something else with your life. And okay, cool. We're gonna find somebody to invest in you. That's where the investment thing comes from. We're gonna find somebody to invest in you and your music. you become a big rap star and we can start working here and work for you. Damn, dog. That sounds cool. Let's do that. That sounds really good. I'm with So they going through all the people's files and file like. Come up with a couple guys, money laundering, it's not we don't want nobody with that. You don't got in trouble about uh Jack Rock, you ever heard of professional wrestling? Uh yeah. WCW like, well this guy with the him did the cameraman, he's over there. Maybe he could help you out. Uh think you gonna invest? They taught the crock it. Crockett wanted to talk to me because he thought I was athletic and I looked good and I was entertaining and. So me and Crockett ended up talking. And we talked for maybe he had four months left. talked all those four months he said give me a call when you get out I legit thought Crock wanted to cut his grass Sho did. Come on. But I gave him a call, he came and picked me up, took me out to Ben against. Now the first time someone ever offered professional wrestling to me. Okay. Um I turned them down. I wasn't mature yet. I just wanted the money. Yeah. How old? How old were you? Twenty four, twenty-five? Okay. Oh yeah. Still mature. Not even I would've I would've asked that money up. I'm sorry. Yeah. wasn't there. So he um turned me down. He said when you're ready, give me a call. Two years later. And within these two years, I'm back and forth in jail. I was sick and tired of being sick and tired. So I also know those type of people when you're sick and tired of being sick and tired. Call Crockett back and say, hey man, whatever you need, whatever I need to do, I'll do it. He said it's won't cost you not but time and dedication. And if you want it, I'll know it. Came and picked me up, flew me to Atlanta. First time ever been on an airplane. Went to two WCW shows. They had a back to back show. And now my first time at a wrestling event ever. Oh my goodness. And he's sitting there, he's done retired. He's a cameraman. He's ready to, you know, he's done. He's sitting there with me and Ric Flair music hits. And I'm watching and I'm seeing it, and I'm feeling these just the just the adrenaline and the people. And Rick Flair comes down and Crock is like, see, that could be you. That could be you. Remember how you was dancing in jail? That could be you dancing. You dance into the ring. And you can get in there. You can use all those dance. I saw you do a split in jail. You could do that. He pretty much talked my. character mind to existence into existence. And this is like It's a good thing, good feel with me because nobody knows how it feels to like have that. This is a freaking story, fairy tale. This is from the deputies to Meet and Crockett to him telling me this to Me going to developmental with George South, him training me and Manny Fernandez, Rajan Bull training me to Rick Michaels' dad and meeting Bill Barons and Rick Michaels dad said, hey man, you belong on TV. And this is. Three years into me being trained, Michael's down in Georgia. He said, uh, me and AJ Styles before AJ was on TV. Wow. Before we was on TV. He said, you belong on TV, man. I said, bro, I'm just happy I'm not in jail. And I can wrestle, man. They was paying me $15 and a couple hot dogs. You know what I'm saying? So I'm I'm good. You know what I'm saying? You don't even have a goal. You don't have the vision yet, right? Nothing. Nothing. I'm so green. I was happy that different route was just. Peaceful. And um they accepted me. I could dance. I would do country music after I would rap. Axe AJ. I would sing a country song. Well there was um Wailing Jenny's. Yes. Some uh digging up bones. I was saying that, you know what I'm saying? Uh going from there to Sending a tape in. He said, Send this tape in. Made me a tape. I send it in. I got a call from Terry Taylor two weeks later. Two weeks? Two weeks later. So this is like I'm just like it's rolling in heaven. I'm like, okay, this is crazy. Like this is too easy. Not easy, but I just wasn't believing it. You know what I'm saying? Like two weeks later, I called out the fleet to meet Vez. This is the funny part right here. Imagine that, right? You know, I'm learning and say, uh hey, you're right. I put that out like six three, two sixty. He didn't call you out on that, did he? Soon as he laid eyes on me. Hey, pal. Oh my god. So Terry Taylor looks at me, he's like... You're not six three. I said, no, I'm actually six one. He said, you're not 260. I said, man. I said, I've been trying to gain more weight. I said, but he just, he said, all right, come on. Took me away, Vince Love me. And Two weeks after that, I was given my first contract. Jeez. And I was on the contract for maybe. Uh-huh. You know how it when you first signed. Way back then, it was about seven months. And that didn't go nowhere. Just getting paid. Just getting paid. I called them. Don't y'all is that the sending me this money, and I'm not going to work. I haven't going to work yet. She said, don't worry about it. It's gonna just, it's fine. It's coming up. Yeah, it's coming. It's coming, bitch, man, it's coming. But ma'am, I don't want to get his money back. I can't pay it back. I can't I can't pay but she it's fine. It's fine. Terry had to call me and tell me it's okay. Just save some of that because we got a thing called taxes now. Which I didn't, I had that's a whole different story. I'll come back with the next five for that one. Everybody learns that lesson the hard way. Oh my gosh, yes. Jenny Mac had to help me with that one too. Yeah. Yes. Oh my gosh, man. Big news. WWE and sports fans, the world's number one sports fan festival, Fanatics Fest, is making its return to New York City. Fanatics is bringing you closer to the league's team, superstars, and athlet you love across Four action pack days in July. Meet your favorite WWE superstars. Get your hands on exclusive merch. Catch live podcasts and interact with the biggest names in sports. Tickets are on sale now, and fans of the podcast get a 10% discount by using code TAKER10 at checkout. You all have a special relationship too, huh? Oh my yes. There's And I've never, regardless of what. circumstance or whatever, that always be he always be got that's my you know I'm saying like fed my family. I was able to like Make a living for years. I've been around this business for like, I've been in people's households. Have experienced I've been on submarines. Oh, I don't want to go on a submarine. Very narrow. Very narrow. I don't want that Vince guy stuck. I had to push him in the egg. Oh no. Yeah. Give me this. Give me the story on the how w how do you and Vince end up on a submarine? Where you have to push his ass up up So I did I did the shoulder thing and pushed him in the ass. But that's the only way he got stuck. Going between we had to copy the whole things. The hatches. The hatches. Yeah the summary. Like But why are we all in the submarine? They would give us a tour of it. We would do something with the military. Okay. He would always take me with him with the military. So it was um go to submarine like, yeah. Big show couldn't go. No, no, he didn't get number submarine. He would not fit and like he could not go at all. And when Vince got stuck, we saw why Big Show couldn't go. I'm surprised. I'm surprised Vince didn't make Big Show go. Right. Right. That's that would that would have been that would have been Vince 101 to make Big Show go on there. And then when he couldn't get through the hatch. Then give him all kind of greed. But that's funny. Vince wouldn't fit. He would not fit. Wow. And it was like But he's not he wasn't like overly big, but they're made just for those small guys. Thank you. Now I'm curious. Was it a modern submarine or was it like an old was it like a Pontiac. I don't know. I don't know. The basketball player, David Robinson, they called him the Admiral. When he came out of the Naval Academy, they put him on a submarine. He was six foot ten. Or even seven foot. But that's long. I I know, but still you I know. But Still it can't be easy. Juice thick. Big bone. Big bone. Anyhow. I got a little distracted with that because I started thinking about Yeah, seven foot and big bat. No, he's tall, yeah, but he's not Like I say it's They're about this size right here. No way. No, thank you. Might be a little bigger. Mm-mm. I'm not even going to be able to claim. Oh yeah, you're gonna be test it. No. You're gonna be tested. No, thank you. I've been on uh what's the big uh aircraft carrier ships? Right. I've been on those. Those are huge. I've experienced more in this business with man that I've ever experienced in my life. And that people will only read about in history books. Did you realize in the moment, because I look back, sometimes it's hard to realize those things in the moment. You know what I mean? Because it kind of become normal because you're doing so many crazy things that it's like it becomes your normal, but it's not normal by any stretch of the imagination. None. And that's those things those uh words, phrases we hear of uh take time the smell of roses. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? Like We never stop to look and embark on what we're experiencing. Um witnessing going through and oh man like You can replay your I can replay my life back and just. Shit was good. Yeah. It it is it it's a probably amazing to to be in one situation w wondering what what tomorrow brings to where you're at now, the platform that you have, the experiences that you have. The life you've changed. Yeah That's in the And the more we do this, the more I do this, it ain't for me. It's for every life that I change. You just said that a lot of things I've been thinking about for a long time. When fans come to me and tell me they saw me and they grew up with me and that, it's a life I change. That's I think that's what all this is about. But you have that special quality that every person you talk to feels you make 'em feel so super special. I mean, people backstage, fans, everybody. You just have that amazing Oh, thank you. That's a gift. Yeah. I I know when I come around the shows you're like one of the people that I actually look out and seek. Yes, one because obviously we work together for so long. Right. But yeah, it's just where's truth. I love the sucks. Yeah. We have a uh we've always heard like that's from day one, though, right? Yeah. I mean we yeah, it's always been like that. It's always special 'cause again, there's been so much turnover already since I've been gone. Right. You know, because a lot of people I I mean, I know who they are, but I don't know them. Some he doesn't know. You know, you look for those the ones you know, you know, I look for the Rays and I look for the R Truths and the Randy's Randy's, yeah. Right. Yeah, me and Randy about the only ones left, right? Yeah, you guys Which begs the question, like I know you get it all the time, but you look the freaking exact same. How is that possible? Not even just looking the same. You move the same. Like you still do the splits. You still I never stopped working out since high school though. Oh ne neither have I, but I age fifty eight years. I mean, what's the secret? He said you did stop. What did she stop? You stopped. What did she do? It may be the people that she hangs out with. Oh, well no, I feel like uh You don't stop cause you get old, you get old cause you stop. That's very true. You know what I'm saying? I heard uh Billy Gunn say that. Look at Billy, like he is Jack still. And it's I'm a true believer in that. Like um I really I tell my son this too. I still see you as the little kid cutting the line more in front of me. Like I don't know if I stop in my mind at a certain time frame or. I just I just do it to I'm style. You know what I'm saying? When I say I'm a Roger the wheels fall off, that's what I'm at. I really feel when you stop using what you got, you lose it. Oh that's true. Yeah, that's true. Is there you do have such an incredible connection uh with with your fans, and I want to get to something else a little bit later about that, but Is there something is there something that you Is there part of our truth that the fans you wish they could see that they maybe they don't? Um I wish you could see that I'm normal, like everybody else. I I never Wait a minute. Well in in in certain I go through the same things that everybody else go through. All right now I'm with you. You got me back. Yeah, you got me back. I go through the same thing that everybody go through. Um Happy. Sad. Disappointed. Um Depress. Oh. angry. I have all those same emotions and feelings everybody else have. I'm human. But I try to make it a habit. I try to make it my mission. When I'm outside of my when I'm out in public, I'm I'm you won't ever see it on me. Mm-hmm. once I've been prepared to this position that I'm in. I'm looked upon as a different way. I'm looked upon as a light. Yeah. And there's no need for you to see my lights dim because I got something personal going on because I'm out for you to be I'm out to be seen now. So I so but just when you see me just know, you never know. Right. You feel me? Yeah, I I think that that goes a long way because sometimes there are encounters when people people are so invested in in in the people that they follow or their celebrities, you know, and then they come across these people sometimes and they're like, Oh man, he was a you know, he was a dick. Right, right, or man, he was rude and you know. I don't think they it it's really good that y you can carry that and and and suppress what's going on in your in your real life. Because a lot of times it just sometimes it gets so overwhelming and the person comes up and there's a little to demand and that I think that's probably one of the biggest reasons. I sure there's there's celebrities that are they're A-holes. Right. There just is. I mean that's just but I think for most bad interactions or encounters are a lot of times that very same thing that You know what? We have we have real lives going on and we have to put this hat on. But you know, I think I I think I I like to think that anyway, that that's probably the main reason why bad encounters with celebrities have happen and then I would think I would hope too. Yeah. I will hope that you're not a celebrity and we'll just have That bad. Yeah. Just be a bad person, you know I'm saying, to be prepared like that, but you know, you never know what somebody's going through, what what they just went through, or who's sick in their family, um, who they just lost. Um there's so much going on. But I will always be that shining beacon of light because I know what it's like to not have one. Bam. There it is. Exclamation point. Oh, that's great. I tell you what, and and I think that's, you know, another thing I was talking about the fans was a little a little bit ago. Um Yeah, obviously you just went through a situation with the contract. It's been I gotta say recently. It's been it's been a few it's been a few months now. Yeah. Um Yeah, a lot of speculation. A lot of speculation online. What was he released? Was did this happen? All of that happen. Um Were you how moved? Or you. by your fan base rally rallying. They said no. They weren't having it. And if you wanna if you want to tell the story, I know you've probably talked about it before. I uh I mean please feel free to tell the whole story, but the the gist of the question is is is basically wow. Your fans got your back, man. So oh man. That's um There's no way, there's no words. Webster dictionary, what of the dictionary do we have? That's enough. There's no words in the dictionary to express That was Man, my son was behind me. When I got the call. When I did the tweet, it was just like it was. I couldn't be salty. I'm not mad. Like we said at beginning, top of this thing, Truth, you've been here for a while. You've experienced a lot. Like, yes, the ride. I'm thinking about the ride. My dad would always say, enjoy the ride, son. The ride was phenomenal, AJ. It was great. And um I owe the thanks to WWE. I owe thanks to the fans. I owe thanks to the universe. I owe thanks to everybody that. Enjoy this ride. And then when that tweet went out. That was all it was meant to be. Right. And it just. I've never that's that's the first thing that ever happened in my life. um most moving thing that ever happened in my life. My son who was um he's twenty five and he's been I lived in Tennessee, that's who's with me. That's who had to take care of when I gave up, that's who I thought I I you know I'm saying, um kept going for kept going for him you know I was a single single father I was trying you know before I met my wife it was just like for him to say Dad, it was worth it. I just broke down. That just That was deep to me. He's when he saw my wow, dad, it was worth it. So This nigga knew everything in my mind. Like, man, I've lost, I've missed anniversaries, I've missed your school, graduation, I've missed there's so many things, occasions, funerals, there's so many things I've missed in life. that never did get to accomplish so many things like it was just 'cause of this wrestling business and and I did it. I did the best I could. And I but my son said, Dad, it was worth it, man. It was like, ah, I just brought tears to my eyes. I just And to see the fans. To hear them, man. Like I'm watching and I'm hearing we want truth. Y'all don't know how that felt. That's lighting in the bottle. It is it never happens. You know, It was beautiful. And it wasn't just the fans. I mean it was your colleagues because it's the reaction The reaction here in our house was the same. I was like this is this what like is this can't be real. We're like not truth. Like not there's no way. We had this discussion right when we saw it, I was like, There's no way But then the colleagues too started speaking out and that's I mean, goodness gracious. Oh my gosh, like my peers at work. The the the ring crew, the the camera crew, the the crew of the truck, like Every part of that machine that makes it work. Spoke up again from me. Thing. We always ask, are we worthy? And it brings like such joy, almost makes me want to cry because it's like to feel that kind of love is like I want everybody to feel that at some point. That's an awesome feeling. You know what that says though? You know what that says? What's that? It says you did it right. A testament to who you are. Yeah. Because that i in in our industry to have your colleagues put themselves out there where they could in a w in a in a position where there could be you know. It could come back a little bit. That means that you've touched a lot of people's lives. What you've done, you've done it the right way, man. So that's it it it was incredible. And for an old salty guy like me that's been around and seen so much, like I I I was genuinely moved to like, dang, this guy. This guy has made an impression in people's lives. And when you can do that with your colleagues and the people that that surround us, our production, like you said, the production crew. And that just says that says a whole lot about the human being right there. And If nothing else, nothing else ever great happened in your career, having having that, having your fan base go to bat for you and your colleagues, man. Good on you, brother. Yes, man. That's awesome. And over good testament of two of that many people, over a hundred million on all social media. Over a hundred million. Holy Shnikes. Everybody all agreed on one thing. That was deep to me. That's so deep. In this world, in this world. Yeah. In the in the wrestling community. Not even in the wrestling community. Scratch that. Agreeing on one thing. You know, on this show we talk a lot about the grind, the history and what it took to build a legacy in this business. Guys like Austin, Rock, Cena, and obviously the women who completely revolutionized the division. Oh, thanks, babe. Nice of you to notice. But um you're right, the history of WWE is unmatched. And for the fans who live through those eras with us, that nostalgia is incredibly powerful. It really is. And if you want to represent that history, WWE Shop and Fanatics have the ultimate collection of official WWE Legends merchandise. They really do. They have everything from classic graphic tees and hoodies to retro jackets and title belts. And honestly, the women's fits and styles they have now They're amazing. I went on Fanatics the other day and the selection's massive. You can find gear for all the grace, including, of course, the Undertaker. Grab your legends gear at WWE Shop and Fanatics today. Mm Think about all the things on TV that you've done. And I want you to tell me what's your favorite funny moment. But think about the I mean, you've touched us in so many ways. You've got Well, for crying out loud, you broke Brock down. Wow. You you when you brought a ladder to a match that did not involve one. You had who was the imaginary hot tag with in that one rumble? Dom? Was it Dom? Yeah, Dom? Yeah. Seven second dance break, little Jimmy. I mean, like the list goes on to how much you have entertained us. Do you come up with I mean no one you, you've probably come up with most of that, no? Some of it, but a lot of it just happens, you know, organically on the fly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The little Jimmy thing happened. That was great. Little Jimmy was supposed to be John Cena fans. But when I turned and started talking, Oh, he's talking to the kid right there. He's talking to him right there. Um Lil Jimmy had a hell of a run. Jimmy had a hell of a run. And people still ask about him. Grown people that drive cars and pay bills. Wait. Didn't you pitch for little Jimmy to have his own action figure? I did. What would it be? Steph Newman said we can't do that truly. We gotta get a people. No, he don't get in the box with me. Just his own box. People would buy it. I bet they'd buy it. They would buy it. Yeah. They would buy a little Jimmy. The wrestling community? Yeah, they would definitely buy it. I'm going to ask Hunter, can I do the little Jim? Oh, you need to bring little bring little Jimmy back. And just sell the action figure. Hashtag bring little Jimmy back. There you go. Hashtag bring little Jimmy back. Will you buy one? Yeah. I'd buy one. I would buy one. I buy one. But if this takes off, I'm gonna need five percent. Shut off. We'll split all. Split it. Use it at the cookout. How we get back to the cookout. We got the white album cookout is coming to you. Oh tour. The White Album Cookout coming to your town. I mean I was gonna ask, how'd you come how'd you come up with White the White Album as a country music album? Have you heard it? Me and Jay Tracks were just sitting around coming up with a title for the song. He's my producer and he's like, oh, you gonna call it? I'm like, uh, well, it's not rap. This is just surprise people. It's called the White Out. I love it. He said why? Have you heard it yet? Oh that's so good. Brilliant. If you see a white album, you're like, oh I'm gonna try this white album and check it out. So good. Mr. Wine now. Right? Makes perfect sense. Oh, I love it. Remember, I just I I I was gonna say I got to say this. I don't want you get hot. Remember when the your your pa caught on fire, your hair caught on fire before you got in the pa? Oh were you not just his hair. I was beside him. Oh my pot beside him and I was trying to get his attention. He would not look at me. He was like on 12 levels of hot. Literally and figuratively. Like sizzling, steaming. Sizzling. And I had my finger to the mirror like my ear trying to look at him. And he was just He was just spreading, he would not look at me at all. Oof He had one person on his mind. And it was the pyro guy. Yeah, that would uh not the knight to have my attention. You still Oh yeah. He was focused, but he was thinking about the madness. Yes. Yeah. It was potentially could have been on many different levels that that whole night could have been far worse. Yeah. Not only not only for me. He came back and the doctors were trying to throw towel like wet towels on him. He was looking for one person. Oh my gosh. It's not on the it's not on my favorite things to do or have done to you. Yeah, that was bad. Yeah. That's one of my early in pay per views too. You're like what? Oh somebody in trouble. He's steaming hot. Yeah, he's he's not. I mean yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh my God. Yeah, that guy was probably Probably pulling one of your lines. My bad. He probably left. That's on me. Oh, he was gone. I don't think he would ever show back up either. That message was relayed long. It looked like a ghost town when I got back there. Nobody would make eye contact with me. There was tumbleweed rolling back through the through the pyro board back there. Cause I walked all the way back through one person. Body going into shock, still just trying to find. Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's great. So do you have a favorite funny moment? Don't. And it's hard. It's almost like people ask me, do I have a favorite match? Yeah. I think every funny moment to me has its own unique. The recipe that made it so funny or made it I got something from it that night. Even with the Brock thing. All the 247 stuff was very funny because it was like on the fly. Right. Who does stuff on a tarmac? And I think we was in um. Maybe Germany or Dubai or somewhere when we did that on the tarmac. Who's overseas? Yeah. Um We did them everywhere. And it was funny. New York, during Christmas. That was funny because Oh my gosh, it was so cold. And the dude, we had a horse, right? And we wanted the horse to run fast. But the guy was oking us because he was speaking to the horse in espanhol. Telling the horse to slow down, but we didn't know it. Yeah, there was no underlay. I don't know, my horse wanna wanna run, it won't run. And so like I said, give him some more money, so they gave him some more money. And he would speak Spanish to the horse, the horse trot a little bit more faster. You know what I'm saying? So the more money we gave him, Yeah, he worked us good. Everybody got game, man. Everybody got a game. It's all the work. And you literally crashed um um His wedding wedding, right? Yes. That was funny. That was great. I remember that. He was so committed with that. He was so committed. Everybody was committed with the 2020. Yeah. She was, right? Yeah. It did crazy numbers. Oh I bet. Did you know Fors Magazine did a writing about it? How did the uh how did the Cena, the John Cena being your childhood hero, how did that come about? Vince. Vince, really? Vince right. Vince wrote that. The first time I did a promo and said that I'm a good watching center. You know, sit there, watch him do his Saturday morning, you know I'm saying, challenges and people bought it. They bit hard and they said He grew up watching them. He grew up watching Johnson and Johnson did a child with him. They went with it, you know what I'm saying? So you can't tell. Did you have to call John and get permission to use his his moves? I called John as I use his shorts. John suggested I do the moves. Uh-huh. He said I think you should do everything. Yes. The shirt, the Ron Cena was John's idea. Oh. He said, I think you do a shirt the same way I do mine, and you put your face there. I'm like. I said you serious? Like, yeah, we're brothers, right? I said, Yes, we are. That is genius. He was smart with the whole thing with it, man. And I just ran with it. It works, right? Yeah. Yeah. There's a bit a lot of guys a lot of guys in the business that are smart that would have said Mm-mm. He ain't gonna make money off of me like that. But the the John's different things. He didn't care. He didn't John is that's why John's John. John exactly. That's why John is John. I think about bringing my daddy into it too. Oh wait. Please do. Tell me more. Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Cena took me in. My mom was doing the indie show. She went to any show, right? My mom was doing any show. Okay. She went to any show and she met this guy. Steve. And then what happened? Oh, okay. funny the seven second dance break that one just hit me that was fun too that was Vince that was Vince the seven second dance break just out of he will say just out of nowhere just do a dance break I was in the middle of the promo, just stop and just start dancing. Sorry. It worked. It worked. There were people doing it on TV. I think I saw somebody doing it on um on one of those big major talk shows, they started doing seven second day break. Hold on. I think it helps. It breaks, you know what I'm saying? Like some people say when you're mad or you're upset, take a minute, just like calm down, think about it before you make a decision to talk or. Seven second dance break dog would like to stop you. Yeah. So if you're doing something bad, right? When you got burnt, when you was looking for dude, if you didn't take a seven second dance break break. Nah Nah Mm-mm I don't think so. I don't think it would've helped that time. Most times, yeah, maybe it would've helped. No, I don't think it I don't think it was much helping. I don't know. Look, he hit some dance move in the kitchen the other night and I said please don't ever do that. Did he know Okay, okay? Those new knees. I'll break it out at the cookout. Y'all see that, right? He said it. At the cookout, me take he will be dancing to the white owl. That definitely will get some views. Huh. I don't know if those are the views I need though. That might that might kill me off for for real wheels. Oh, I can't. Oh, that's good. You and Cina, no prep time. In a wrap off. Oh. Who wins? Um No, man, I'm not I'm not really a freestyle. I think at least you gotta sit back and create. Yes. I'm I'm a deep thinker, a talker. I like um Like writing about experiences. Tell stories. Tell stories. Um Give knowledge, give insight. I think anybody can freestyle and just say some cool words. I wanna push. And raise. Mark who did rap one time. Mark Henry? Yeah. Don't bring it up, though. Oh no. No, never. Oh no, you know what I'm gonna kill. Nobody nobody watches. And Mark, I didn't bring up. Mark said he was gonna keep if I told one more person about that. Oh more person. So you did tell somebody. I just told y'all. Oh that's it. Oh that was it. Okay. I just told Take and Mitch. That's it. Okay. Yep, and we don't even know what it's all about. He ain't gonna feed it, no. Mm mm. Yeah, butn't we just play this for ourselves. I'm gonna take them all again. When I see when I see you, I'm gonna shrink you. Yes. There you go. The tech made me do it, dog. Got called Take. There it is. Boom. I'm out Why you looking at it? Why are you looking for a while? Come on, man. I come up on there. Yeah. I don't want to talk about that. Oh Mark. Oh I said my man he just that's one thing he said. I want to talk about this. Yeah, just Google cut that out. That's cut. Cut. It's not cut. Cut. Done. Done. Done. Nobody heard that. Nobody heard it. What about the haircut, man? Um I'm gonna look like my dad. Okay, that's just um It was time man. It was time. And I love how Everything happened right through the whole um Bush of uh you know, the contract, me getting released, all this and this and that. Me cutting the hair. I found a moment. I've been around this business long enough. You know, you find moments to make to evolve. Yeah. One of my songs on the White Album. White. Check it out. I love how people was like, oh man, you cut your hair, that's your essence. Or you cut your hair, you lost your power, or what statement are you making? It was time. Yeah. I was joining Dre together. And my hair was getting thin and thinner and thinner. I've fried and dyed and laid my hair to the side for many years. Did you go back and look at pictures of me with blonde hair? Like you don't see too many dogs can people with blonde hair. I had blonde hair, I had straightened hair, I had permed hair, relaxed hair. All of them. All of 'em. Um takes a toll. Yeah, it took a hell of a time. No no no no I'm sympathizing. He's a laugh of recognition. That is the laugh of recognition. That is the laugh of recognition. Okay, gotcha. I I am 100% I'm on your team on this. It was time. So I did a uh interview with uh Chris V V, right? Okay. And they had the camera shine down on me. And um I'm not talking. And I went back and watched it too. I'm like Yeah? I could see my scalp. I could see my my brain. I can see what I was thinking. You know what I'm saying? So it was like uh, ah nah dog, I can't be going out like that, you know what I'm saying? And I kept the dread for my wife and for my uh my producer. I kind of was like ready to get rid of them anyway. It took two DMs that I I saw. One girl said. Hey Boo Boo. You got three, maybe four dreads joined together and they're holding strong. She said, we're gonna love you. We love you. But it's time to let it go. Okay. We'll see that. Second DM. Hey Hunk. Dog, we're gonna always root for you. But it's time to let him go. That one's done. Oh that one that Take that one's dead. Oh everything happening and and I just had the big comeback and I was already talking about it, and I asked Hunter, I said, hey can I cut my hair? He's like, why? I said man, I want to cut my hair. I said I want to check it. I said, I said, it's thinning out, Hunter. I need I want a new look. He's like I said, now this is a good time, perfect time. I can't new me. You know and It's like, all right, if you want to do tonight, we'll do it tonight. And so it was just me, it was time I felt like it was the b it was the end of a new beginning. Yeah. It gave me so much more mileage. Um like I reinvent myself with it. And I've always been that one that we live, we create, we adapt, we evolve, and we have to like go on with the time. I was gonna hold on to it forever. Were you looking forward to being a hill? Like did you want to Use that to go compete. I'm easy go like that. But I think those hundreds of millions of people, they want it all truth. Oh yeah. They want the guy that made them feel. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Laugh. And that's what you want it. It wasn't a the the mean guy or not the mean guy, well Ron Killings was the guy that He just wasn't a nice hard truth. Yeah. You know, he felt like he was ow something. He felt like they took advantage of him. He felt like he was overlooked. Or truth. He can't be overlooked. No, and you're the best to ever. I mean the comedic relief that I don't think there's anybody. Better. And the comedic relief then you I mean, I don't even think it's close. And fans want that, yeah, because that's special. You get there with with the the amount of time that you've been there to. Like they've they tried like there's a certain you get to a certain point when you have runs like you've had. There that your your fa your audience is not gonna accept. going from one thing. I I don't want to I don't want to this guy I want to be entertained by this guy. I don't there's there's nothing else that you're gonna give me a a a hard ass is not gonna that's not what I want. Right. Right. When I turned heel as as when I was the American badass. When I turned heel. I think our audience kind of played along with it. Right. They didn't want they didn't want to s they didn't want to they didn't want to hate me. They wanted you know they wanted me to kick in people's ass. Same thing with Austin. Tried to make Austin a heel there late in his run. It's like no that that's that's not what we want. And you're in that same Well it runs in his family. It runs in the family with you, John. Yes. Exactly. Once you get to that that that that ultimate respect and appreciation from your fan base, they're just not gonna, they're not gonna accept it unless you you come at them from a from a from a different way. I don't think you can work yourself into changing. There's certain things that you can do outside that will make you turn on you, but that ain't the heat changes you want, right? We've experienced in seeing that too. But once you get to that that level of of of people and and entertaining them in a certain way that yeah, they no, that's not that's not what I want. Right. Totally agree. Yeah. And that's that's exactly that's I think that's exactly I don't I you could a you could a punched babies. In the crowd, right? And they would a Well that might be a bit extreme, but you know my point my point to that is it didn't matter what you were gonna do. They were not they're not gonna buy that No, they ain't gonna buy that. That's true, you're right. And then you end up in a situation where you're doing all this crazy stuff to try to get heat and they just cheer you more. Right. That's why when I turn to you the first time. They would cheer it and basically think it's not gonna work. Yeah. It's cool for you to do things that's should be booed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So