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Wolf & Owl with Romesh Ranganathan and Tom Davis

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Advice for exploring new sexual experiences

From Pablo Escobart, Pigs and MassagesJun 11, 2026

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. You know, what do you want? Beacle jaws, stevers or fur, sharp teeth or feet with flaws, whatever's preferred Just kidding every word in his songs about two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog. Hello and welcome to the Wolf and Owl. Hi there . I'm the owl and I'm the wolf and this is an email bonanza. What we like to do is get some of your email s from people that like the show and support the show and what we do and we try and spread a little bit of cheer and advice and we look we're not experts. Nobody's saying we're experts but we 'll do what we can to give you a little bit of advice . This episode is sponsored by Baby Bell, premier cheese for fussy children . I just know we're not sponsored by Baby Bell. Does little gee like Baby Bell? She loves them . Yeah, yeah, she does. I like them to be fun. Yeah, I lived in my pre vious days. Yeah. When I was a kid, I used to loved just getting all the wax together in big wax bog gers with it. Yeah, well no, but you just yeah. You know, they're nice if you wrap a burger round mince around it, a burger. Round a baby bell. Yeah. Does it melt? Yeah, and you put it. Baby Bells melt. Yeah. I didn't know that. Well, they're quite softer. Okay. So they don't matter. Yeah. There's a lot of o,kay there's plastic in there so sorry Baby Belt about that. Obviously he's sponsoring the book I say but Tom does think you're toxic . Okay , let's have a look at question email one would you like me to read it? I think you should read it Romish. Hi Wolf for now. I was listening to your pod episode where you talk about the possibility of one day smashing a rack of ribs, life goals and then pondered French kissing Tom after he'd eaten some to get that meaty hit fucking. What do we talk about on this thing ? God imagine if this was the first time you listening to this. So they talked about sm ashing a rack of ribs and then tongue kissing each other . There's been a lot of that. Can I say by the way? I mean, I don't want to see it and we'll talk about it next the level of messages I'm getting now about having a homosexual awakening is insane . Some of the voice notes and some of the messages I'm getting is I mean I'm very, very complimented but some taking some point a lot of men want to smash it, right? It's become quite extreme. Well, they want you to smash them. Yeah, so there's actually been some video footage and pictures of have you been sent dick pics? Yeah . Of other sorts of picks, yeah. What do you mean? Arsle picks? Yeah Yeah . That's somebody sitting from down looking up. Like a Oh my god, really? Yeah . Yeah, I'm not with you. No . No, I'm like, yeah, I'm complimented, but I'm not, I don't , by the way, I'm now staying out of that folder . Why? Because I'm like, 'Cause you can't be sat around the house with a hard ones. I can't be on the tube with one. Yeah. That's why I opened one the other day I was on a train. I was like, What was this? Yeah. Yeah. Because the actual capture went unlucky , you know, sad to see West Dam go down. And then tell me who else will go down. No genuine I opened a picture and it was a picture of a dick . Like basically this will put a smile on your face . Did it? Yeah, yeah, it was a decent looking dick. Some of them are nicer than others aren't they? Of course, yeah . Yeah Anyway I mean, if you're worried when I fuck you , I'm not giving up. I am selling the building . The final season of FX is the Bear. Restaurant is flooded. Everything's either gonna be okay ? Or not . We are outgunned and we are out manned, but we have each other . FX is the Bear, the final season, all episodes now streaming on Disney plus. This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome, that's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a fifty page restoration block, or finally breaking down that long article you've had opened for weeks. Gemini and Chrome is here for it. Ready to make anything online makes sense? There's no place like Chrome. Check responses setup required compatibility and availability varies eighteen plus. Okay , I have a question related to this condry. I've posed the same question to lots of my vegan veggie omnivore friends . Onivore . Meat and you're an omnivore. What's that mean? You eat like meat and vegetables . The vegetables I don't have to mean that vegetables and I've yet to receive a definitive answer. In fact, it's kept me awake at night. Can a vegan morally suck off a meat eater to completion . I don't think can I say a French kiss feels like a bit different my husband says absolutely you can, but then he would say that, wouldn't he? Anything for a blosser and if one is on the card, what the fuck is going on ? And if one is on the cards, he would agree to absolutely anything. Anyway, surely a meat eater's love juice would contain meat traces, wouldn't it? Well, can I just say the way you're phrasing this absolutely dreadful . You can taste things like pineapple juice, chocolate and asparagus after all. Can you ? I don't know, pineapple makes it sweeter, doesn't it? It did the last time I tried . Please can you put my question out there to your listeners indeed to yourselves? Thanks for keeping me sane and making me smile while my husband is away. He's just been deployed with the British Army overseas to do important manshit. You truly ask sweet sweet souls thank you much love from the knacked kodiac bear what sorry, what exactly is it? Oh yeah, so can a vegan suck off a is jazz vegan? I guess is the question? I think it is now. I mean, I think if you got a highly carnivorous diet, then it's obviously in you, isn't it? You know what I mean? I mean , I mean, look, so if you're a vegan, you can only suck off vegans, is that the point? Well, I mean I guess it's how disciplined you are because Lisa obviously eats meat , but Yeah, and I suck her off all the time. What's your point? That's what I mean . Okay , this is actually quite an interesting weirdly. I mean, I don't the road into it was pretty it was a storm rough road exactly but I actually go through I actually think it's an interesting point raised. Yeah the issue that vegans have is that these creatures have not consented to have their right. So if you eat a pig , yep, you know, the pig has not consented to having its flesh being eaten etc , et cetera. But if there was some world in which a pig could like I know this sounds mad, but if a if a pig said have my if a pig was able to go you can have my leg. I'm only going to grow it back. Then I hasn't happened is it? Pigs ? No, I'm insane. You ask me if a talking pig s? No, I'm just saying pigs don't grow their some animals grow their bad no, no it doesn't matter. Can I say it away the an AI within five years will be able to talk to animals? How? They're going to somehow work out a way that language or not can converse . So you won't won't have a full conversation. It won't be like, Hello Romish. How are you today Mate? It'll be like he'll be able to just converse whether he's happy or sad or you know , you would sort of of get a thing effort because obviously But actually pigs are really intelligent. Yeah, wow. Yeah. You could actually have a really good chat with a pig . Yeah, I think you You might end up having a chat with a pig and it walks away . But the meat eater's eating it, yeah , I think they've they've done the damn that's done then. Yeah, the transaction is done. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So when the vegan filates them, yeah. I don't think there's an issue that I think it's fine. I do. I don't think yeah. Otherwise vegans would have to stick to vegans How are we going to complete our experiment? Well, that's that. What do you think? I think exactly yeah, yeah, yeah. I was so by the way that was that was quite a testing I have not. And by the way, I know we talked about kissing and I'm going to say something even worse. I am intrigued in how what you eat affects the taste of your jizz. But you can try that yourself . I'm not gonna what am I doing? Eating something jizzing? Yeah, exactly how jizzing goes through your body . Yeah, I know that I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to wank as I'm eating pineapple . No, but yeah, I'm just saying that yeah, you could do you haven't got enlist loads of people to do that with. No, no, I get it. You can do that yourself. But I think if you were doing , can we just talk about the scare? Come on over toast . Sweeter? Sour , but you don't want to put it into a cup of thing and then it's going to get cold, isn't it? It's not porridge. I mean, I think it's hot. I do think it's best served warm would be my guess or at least body temperature . Yeah, yeah. Anyway, we've managed to make it more disgusting than initially. Thank you so much Nacid Kodiak bear. Yeah, thank you. Yeah . Hi wolf out Antswan. I'm my way on a family holiday to Rose this week and using my time wisely to catch up on episodes of so good so good so good New Summer arrivals are at Nordstrom Rackstores now. Get ready to save big with up to sixty percent off brands like Ragn Bone, Levi's, Adidas, and Free People. Join the Nordy Club to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more. Plus, buy online and pick up your favorite at rack store for free. Great brands, great prices . That's why you rack . Introducing Taco Bell's new jalapeno citrus salsa with bright citrus, real red jalapenos, gu ilajillo ches . 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I wish it literally you had it does it look look. that 's not It even a piss take. That is exactly how I look. No . And it's also got that startled look that you do. Yeah . That's I hope that person got that t shirt. We should get you that t shirt to wear . Have we had enough fun with Banter Canon one? That would be a sick t shirt. That's great. Thank you so much. Yeah, that's that's the thing. How do you buy it? I hope they bought a t shirt. Yeah. If you did send us a picture of you wearing a t shirt did say ing Zaney like down in the shop. Yeah, send it because it's not I don't have to look at it anymore so jumping in the pool . Thank you so much for your email. Thank you. That's lovely. Thank you. Really nice. Okay . Here's the next one. Hello wolf owl animal Pack . Thanks for the advice around impossible syndrome back in episode eighteen. It really helped. I've now slipped to the other end of the spectrum. So this is a previous . I've now slipped onto the other end of the spectrum burnout. Burnout, I raised two hundred fifty thousand pounds for local community improvements and been offered multiple roles outside of my day job, and I can never seem to switch off, okay, this email seems like a bit of a flex so far. Yeah, but could I say what an incredible human being? Yes, absolutely. So the key question is how do you two relax ? I struggle to chill out with that Mary Jane or a crispy pint, which clearly are in healthy habits. Any tips will be greatly appreciated. Big love , JL By the way, can I just have so much admiration for the people who sign off from an email with their initials like that? It's what presidents do, isn't it? Well, I think what's happened there is it starts with J and you thought of JFK , and that's why you've said it. No . I don't think DJT does it, doesn't he? Yeah, Donald Trump wrote Donald Trump. Did you sign something like he made a signature into pair of boobies or something? Boobies? I can't have a boobies. This is Christ . That is the didn't he make his signature of a pair of boobies He made him two a pair of poobies right . Anyway , come on, fare out, Alex. Come on, look at your near this beach, see some boobies. Get some boobies. Goodbies . Fuck . You know what Pavlo Escobart likes? Boobies . Why does I say boo bies ? Boobies . Oh my god, I tell you what, merchwise we need the Pablo Escobarte shirt Fuck . The Escobart T shirt would be grinning its face with boobies underneath . Shit . An anyywayway , how do you relax ? I don't think I do not I don't think I relax enough. I would say that as an actual constant like I can't remember the last time I sat and didn't sit worrying or thinking or I wasn't you know , you know, I went away for Catherine a little while ago and we had a nice really nice two days away three days actually, three days away. And I did it was the first time I was getting off Lake Como. Nothing. I switched off and I managed to just spend that time with her, chilling, just being together and actually that was that was, you know , just being with Katherine, I was like, this is nice. I think when I'm with Grace, I tend to but then with just being I don't know about when we talked about the last episode. As a parent, I don't think can't switch off . You're constantly there's an air of tens ion in you because you're so worried. The anxiety and fear is in you. So actually, do you know one thing actually? And I took I was very I took the mic out of you a little bit about the meditation . I took your advice and started doing meditation bed . It's changing that and some lavender on my feet. Beautiful. Has completely changed the game. Great. I had a holistic massage the other day by one of the most fine men I've ever met in my life. He was incredible. He was an upstanding young man, thirty one , really incredible guy. How do you know his age? Because I chatted him fiddler. I went in there and I was like, listen, man, I'm shattered. I've might just end up falling asleep. He was like, he was like, bro, you just do what you got to do. And I'm like, Cool, okay, I lay there, lay face down. He starts going to work and I went Oh, you got a gift. You got a gift . And I was like, This sounds really horrible. Not as horrible as Boobies, but so I was like, so we start chatting and he said like he was such an incredible human being. Talked for the whole massage an hour. By the way, he was like, The amount of stress you're carrying in your right shoulder. He said, That's where we pack all that stress in his right shoulder . He did so much work on it. Just walked away going. Thank you very much. There you go . Yeah. I felt chilled then. I think I've managed to rent ch youill out looking at boobies, right ? Why has Dad got a maker? He's just chilling out son . Lace so I can't get to sleep. You know what I need to say ? I actually think part of the problem is compartmentalizing your day. So I think one of the things that people make the mistake of doing is first thing in the morning they like look on Instagram or start thinking about work or whatever straight away . Actually, you know what I started doing? I know this sounds a bit like wanky, new agey or whatever, but get up. For me, first of all, one of the things I started doing is exercising or getting outside as soon as I wake up pretty much. But before that, sitting on your bed, a couple of deep breaths before you start looking at anything. This isn't a major thing, by the way. Someone was telling me about the thing of like, you got to take those breaths. A lot of heart attacks are caused by just getting up and getting on with it. Yeah. Taking a moment . Just like a little bit of like engaging with what your day is straight away and just having a bit of that helps and at the end of the day just having a data like actually you I think it's helpful to go at this point of the day, I'm not going to be thinking about work anymore. Right? That is done . And then you just , you know, you can work as hard as you want during the day and at this point you're no longer thinking about it . And then you spend the last hour or so or two hours or whatever doing like watching TV or reading or whatever, not scrolling and actually getting yourself into just chilling out. And I think people I do feel like we're guilty of feeling like we have to be doing something every minute of every day. And like look, you know, there's this whole fucking Jake Humphrey kind of school of like you've got Humphrey, what the guy used to do football sort of Yeah, that guy. Do you follow him on Instagram? Yeah, I do. Yeah. Right away can I say Denzel Washington said it said it better . Just reposted Denzel Washington quote. But he's like it's the whole culture of like going, you've got to come up with a vision board for your day. You've got to achieve all these things and then you got to like fucking like, you know, doing all this shit every moment of every day . I think we just need to let go of that shit. I mean, do what you got to do. do, your job It's amazing what you've done and then stop and actually you should make your next development area being able to do nothing or do read or something else because it's not it's not It's not a healthy thing to be thinking about that shit or analyzing whether you're making the most of your time every minute of every day. It's so boring. It's shit. What does Jay Cumfries doing now apart from those Instagram videos? High performance. Yeah, high performance podcasts. Have you done that podcast? No, no. I think they only invite high performers. Yeah. Meaning your air performance. So people who have got lucky on a black. I don't think he's gonna want to know. Maybe we should do a low performance podcast. Don't mind. Accidental performance. Yeah. . Anyway, thanks for email, good luck. Honestly, sorry, before you get in this. This baby's thing man, I'm not waiting. It's a runner. It's a runner. I've looked at John already. We already know there's gonna be boobies t shirts. Have we got time for one more? Okay. The booby t shirts for the summer. Summer summer time Time to look booby's hand unwind . What? Sorry, I'm just reading the is very funny by the way, but I'm just reading the beginning of this next fuck is going on with this episode . Oh Jesus God. Okay, do you want to read it? Yeah . This is Hi Roman Tom. I was listening to your recent episode about the wolf wanking off a stranger in a pub to felt as pertinent to Email In. I'm a man in my late thirties and I've recently become more emotionally familiar with the idea that I'm maybe bisexual, finding guys more attractive as time goes on. I've never known any repressive any of these feelings , only that these feelings have arisen later on in life. I've talked to some of my close mates, all who think it's a great idea and say give it a go. Although I'm getting closer and closer to a possible sexual encounter with a man, I find myself terrified at the thought of regretting it, possibly due to nearly four decades of social conditioning or worse still backing out of it and making them feel rejected or awkward. I've been a prolific shagger over the years and I'm concerned maybe I feel this way just because I want to try something different like if I'd been an MMA world champ and now I'm moving into boxing for more of a challenge. We all saw how that went for Francis ano when he fought Tyson Fury. I mean, if you could give me a million guesses about where this was going to go, let's say Francis Incano had an incredible fight against us . And I would fuck Francis Ingano in a heartbeat by the way . Anyway, God, I'd love to hear your thoughts around this, the baffled bear . Peter, well, God with a bear is what was a name. So Pi, youerce both're an inspiration for how you openly talk about yourself, doubt and mental health. Big up yourself, big boys. Wow , it's it's can I say that we've been doing this podcast for six years I.'ve never the Pandora's box we've opened with this stuff is you know right , you know what? I think you should go and do it. I think you go and do it. I think you feel like you're open minded and you want to try new things and I think you'll live to regret if you don't. Sure, yeah. I mean, how did you're still thinking about a booby thing, aren't you? No, I'm just wondering like when he started saying as I'm getting close to a sexual encoun ter, I started think about, that must be incredibly nerve wracking. Like you think about it , oh yeah. If you've only been with the opposite sex your whole life also your first ever kiss, right? How terrible first time you made love? . Well, I remember it like it was just before Theo was conceived I think it's yeah I think there's an element of all can I say because I think that the element of men in this situation rather than women is quite awkward The women are a lot more . So when I was growing up, women were like I had girlmate two term men went over last night they mess around kids. I mean I'm pretty sure Lisa's fucking snugger a woman right now so we speak . And when I saw a girl in Servo in the cursin, she was very much yeah. I wonder if I would think about maybe someone you know quite well . Are they someone you know quite well who's also feeling the same way maybe? I don't think so. Why? Because if one of you's into it more than the other one ? No, we just go, this is just an evening experimentation. No, no, no, no, no . I think that's an awful idea. Like maybe after they've done a podcast record or something. I saw what you're getting. No, no, I'm being serious. You don't think that's a good idea. No . Why? I think it puts an air of light . Okay, so what's your suggestion? I think you meet someone either online or you go to a bar and you just and you're quite open about how you who you are. Well, that was the other thing I was going to say. This is yeah, I've never done this before . I'm quite nervous , you know , and just be completely honest with the whole thing. Very much like from what I remember of the role play. Yeah, the role play jumping in on that vibe . I think earnesty is everything , you know, and it might just be sort of a gentle bit of passion out or just, you know, you might go the whole way. You know, don't put any labels or limits or anything , just be like, you know, this is what it is and just go with it. But whatever you do, play safe. Yeah, be safe , be safe. Durex or any other condom . Yeah, okay. yeah. Johnny's. We should actually have Wolfenhale condoms. Hey, why don't you grab yourself a wolf and now Johnny? Before you dive into a situation you might not be ready for. Do you think this conflicts with the baby bell sponsorship? Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Okay, well that is all we've got time for on this particularly lurid episode this should probably has come with age walk. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, thank you so much for listening to all the wanking and the boobies and the boobies . Well, the booby singer is genius. Hey friends, by the way, thank you you. Thank so much for sending in your emails and subscribing. You can send any of your email comments into Well Wolf at GMO dot com that is Wolf Owl, Pod at gemo. com. We'll see you fuckers next time. 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