Owning Your Nicknames and Identity

I make you right, Tom. Oh, hello. Hey It's time for another episode of the Wolf and Owl podcast. Rom you can email in wolfwpod atjammail dot comot Like, subscribe be a part of the journey. Yum Yeah what do you want? Beakle jaws, stevers or fur, sharp, T or feet with claws, whateth' prefer Just kidding every word in his songs about two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog. No Do you remember we did an episode where we did some silent acting? Yeah Apparently doesn't work well on audio. No. That's been the feedback. Yeah, yeah.'ve got that's the thing because we've sort of got quite dizzy by the fact that these are getting filmed. I know. But we have to remember the people, you know, if we're just in your ears. Yeah, we're going to make this as audio visual pibility you can ar Yeah What we should have done with What Iggest you do I'm just strokeking this if what we should have done with those silent movie ones is maybe got like John to sort of describe ADR them m because John's got quite a sultry voice Um Why are you wearing tall merchandise?ust push the tall Date still available, we're running right through to twenty twenty seven friends Tom Davis, Budcun Cing to the theater in Ao How many of those cups exist? Ten Why want that one? If you want one, you can have this one and I'm finish one. I don't want that one. I did swear a lot in the end Yeah. I want a fresh one. Yeah I'll get a fresh. Yeah, yeah honor. love to. want Well, that's a bit of a ling question then Yeah, on them. Are you not gonna to sell them? No, we're talking about it. We're in talks with the m. Okay Nike Yoji Yamoto Wow, wow, you know how much I love Yoji Yeah, Yeahah. I think we're going to yeah get some. this is the first this is his debut Yeah, already now. Yeah. yeah ort doing a lot of plugging aren't you? Yeah, yeah ye. I feel like yeah a better no plugging at all. Yeah, yeah. I mean, not all of us could sell out just on their neigh. I'm not selling out? Mate, can I have done creatively. Can I say someone messaged me the other day and said, We were looking to come and see both you and Ramish in Eastbourne. Lucky enough there was tickets available to see you. Ramish is coming here in twenty twenty seven. it's already sold out there next month It's I know, but that's what happens if you book a small enough room No you're doing a big room in Eastbort. I don't know what the wrong. You' got a big following in any. Very excited to Eport. Eastbomish Rang and Anthan will change your life. tickets available. Yeah, I don't have any merch. Yeah, the stortk tour hasn't tied. No. Your merch will probably be yellow, right I think it will be, ye. Yeah Why Why is there a smile button? is that button? No but you're say it like becausecause it's just coming to your mind. When when I said it, you went you you the color padets ye No, but you smiled like G him. G him. Yeah weird? Yeah, I think you like some yellow caps with your face on Yeah I was sort the sickest thing you ever did was that you know, when you just had the bitid, it was like you sort of the outline of your phone. Yeah, yeah yeah, the cinem. So cool. That was when you had a bid. Yeah I can't do that anym. We could do that but I look like the Pringlesy. Yeah Um So I don't think that would It might sell more actually. Yeah. Prigggles are, by the way I I needast be careful we donret want to be too controversial with hot takes on here and sprinkles are going to be one of the worst Christas for I't miss a hot takeake Why are they the worst? I don't know something about something in them Have you seen the bit when they made someone made onion soup just from cheese and onion prringles? Yeah And I was just say it's really bad if you ball them down and eat. Who the fuck is boiling them down? I mean, the tip there is don't boil them down. They better be worse for you than a lot Chris. It's like yeah I've I've become obsessed with this yucker app. Right? It's like an app where you can scan a barcode Yeah and it gives you a reading of how healthy stuff is for you. Yeah and Pringles rates really lowly I mean, but still obviously if Pringles wanted to do a read here and it would be obviously I can't imagine that's going to happen now. Well o, in that case, yeah . What's your favorite flavor of pringle good What you know Yeah I'm a pcist The original. Yeah, I love the original Pkos. Good. salt and vinegar. I like it. You you know what? I used to That was my flex If I went to a bar, you could tell as soon as I walked in, Tom Davis is going to fucking order some sort of in a crisps of some kind. Study and play! Come together on a Windows eleven PC. And for a limited time, college students get the best of both worlds! Get the unreal college deal, everything you need to study and play with select Windows eleven PC's. elligible students get a year of Microsoft three hundred sixty five premium and a year of Xbox GamePass ultimate with a custom color Xbox wireless controller Learn more at windows. com slash student offffer. Lw suppupplies last ends june thirtieth, terms at aka. ms slash collllege PC So good, so good. New summer arrivals are at Nordstrom Rack stores now. Get ready to save big with up to sixty percent off brands like Rag and Bone, Levi's, Adidas, and Free People. Join the Nordy Club to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more. Plus, buy online and pick up at your favorite rack store for free Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack I can't have the money. I I don't know what it is. It's like you know, like women when they're pregnant or stuff, it's just Even if I smell them now not I used to smell them o and make friends with someone if they open a pack of crisps sort of vinegar crest, Nothing for me. How would you make friends someone that's open a packet of?ust lean over and go, Bother, this is a good guy ies Look at that ball from Perez. He looks amazing. That's not going on. You know I'm watching it on my phone L It's good to share That's a good bullet. You that? Yeah No's a He's such a good play, aren't Yeah He is whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa Whoa. Oh, sorry, I thought you were watching my phone. I could at least have two of your grisps. Well, I wasn't watching your phone. You forced it on me. S, just saw you sitt on your own pub I don't understand this. You can easily buy Chriss Yeah no. you've got this thing, haven't you where you think it's more delicious if you manage to scam it off somebody? Yeah, yeah, I think like think I think food given to you of someone else's place. That's not given to you' stolen that. Yeah, but if you had some Chps and they were open Yeah, by the way I saw the coolest I've ever seen This is going to blow your mind. I've literally I mean, the build up you've given this. Right. So I saw some the other day in a pub, right had some scissors with them and I had some Chris and they cut the top of the scissor bag and open it up like it was an actual bowl Fucking hell Are you fucking Holy fucking shit man It was Are you serious? Iuc can inc credible It was like, I just watched them do it and I was like, But you don't use scissors do that. knowose people do that. No, no, no, no, no. they open them like a plate And it's all fucking This was like that. It was like a literal bolt. Not like that. was It was like a bolt. and it didn't Oh, I if you cut it enough across the corner, then you've got a Yeah It was it was f. It was incredible to say I wonder cover and go you sir would would be a credit to civil. Are you? because you're traveveling around with scissors. There're only a little pair of right now. No, but then you've got scissors with you in case you want to open a bag of c. But also scissors are used for loads of different things So say you're walking through and someone's got a thread hanging from their jumper. Yeah You got a thread on your jumper. Oh c it loud. I've got job interview that could change my life. Hey, relax, relax There we go. There's a thread cut. My second question is why are you wearing a jumper to a job interview 's someone who's got everyveryone's got your excessive wardrobe with shirts and ties and whistles and don't know, braces Do you know what? I remember It was a few years ago I was going for a job as a head of six form. Yeah at the Beacon School in Bansed, which you know. And it was a difficult interview because a few people going up for the same job and with teaching jobs I, uh They tell you on the day whether you got it or not. D they? Yeah.ow. Well actually that day they phoned later on, but most of the time they tell you That's cool though. I'd love thations. And one of the things they said to me when I got the job because I did get the job in the end is they said to me, what really said we like they do a teaching observation. So they watch you teaching a lesson. Yeah. And then you I had to talk to them because it's head of six formerers to go and have an interview with some six forformmers as well. I said, what would you do for the sixth form and blah blah. And the end of it they said it was really close between you and the other candidates, but really pushed you over and made us think this is a guy for us is that you brought a whistle. Did you really bring a whistle? No. Oh, okay. Um Yeah, so What did you wear that chob suit? whole suit Yeah. Are we teaching in that you got wear a suit. Yeah You don't have to, but yeah, it helps. Yeah yeah. a nice mosbros lumber. What else is a flex apart from sorting v a creis? What in a pub? Yeah, I think being really good at quiz machines Quiz machines. Yeah. Yeah this is one I was in there. Yeah. that's one thing I actually miss. is one thing I miss because obviously everyone's got their phones now Remember before like when touchscreen quQiz machines first came into a pub You could make friends so quick. That's a really good way of. I don't think you and I think that making friends is the same thing as each other You're talking about so for me, making friends is You strike up a relationship, you start meeting up with that person and But how do to for that person? Yeah, you forge a relationship. I think what you think making friends is is forcing itself on somebody that no, no, I see No, no, no no, no I think The old days that have gone, the old past, this is why I fear for like brood of mine You're in a pub, right? No one's got phones You know, someone's got somese change. You've never ever met that person before they go to the quiz machine. You've been in a pub where nobody's got phones. No, back in the day,. You're talking me and you were old enough to go we' pre we're like prehistoric Yeah, P mobile I think how old are you when ph mobile phones start to become commonplace? I reckon you would have been twenty eighteen. No, twenty one. eighteen, I think. twenty twenty one I think. eighteen, nineteen, I think. Yeah. But by the way, those phones weren't a phone like an iPhone. the Noocia banana. Yeah that. Yeah, Nooci banana or a Nokia thir thousand two ten. Yeah, but you weren't looking at were't looking at Yeah Yeah. if you were just sitting there playing snake on your own in a pub then You had every right for no one to talk to you it's bit closeer to the p. Right. So like you're on your own. You finish work, right? Yeah. I used to go to the pub of mine quite a lot back in those days. Yeah. kind of you know List and Yeah, be watching a football. Yeah. You watch a like minded soul get a better change. Yeah makeake their way to the quiz machine So they'd make their way to the quuiz. Yeah Yeah. And then you'd sort of did a thing of like, you know gettinget up moving into another screen Sort of like b I'll go and take a move from a stall to. This is all deliberate. Yeah And then you'd see them on the quiz machine and you'd just sort of go they're struggling with general knowledage on this or movies come up sort of got as potent youial walking past a guy. Robert Dinner I might Itsub with D Ner And they press it with an airr and go, But ye, you're good at the movie stuff and then point it down on the And let me just help you dance through this one For, you know, having a bit of banner. Hm, you know, Oh Next answer is you know, who got his bum out of the brrits? Jarvis Coer? C Bry, do you remember Polp? Well Pulp was quite biger at that time. I love Pulp. and then you'd have a bit of pattern about music. Yeah films You know, he's into cars. I know nothing of cars. He do something about cars before you knew it. you' having a bit of chat. Bill tell, let me get you, hunt Come back taste like Yeah. Some a cutter bes, some peanuts Mbe some crisps thenen you have a bit more of a laugh, right You make your way out, you've had six pointints, right? You've watched a bit football. You paid for one. You ha bit watch did the quiz machine yeah A week later you go in. Bill's there. You walk past and go Here he is brains. You know what, mate? And then you go over and go I think I can't sop thinking about a quiz machine. So you go to the quiz machine you throw a bit of money and Bill makes his way over Before you know it, it's wedding Oh by the way, this you marry Bill. You, you're not marrying Bill, but Bill comes. o. Because you become friends with Bill. Yeah. It started with something very sort of small. Are there people in your life that have come to life through that? Yeah You've got your friends and people now that it started like that. Yeahah, like Facebook friends, peopleople I know content. Yeah peoples what you said is like they're your best mate. No, I've got best mates I've been in Facebook. I've got No, but they were friendly enough. Facebook didn't come through to what two thousand five? Yeah, rightight? They still in my life enough to go, know, Bill. Bill. That's how you were on Facebook I've never done anything. I've got people I've met become friends Yeah. train You know what? I'm going say it now. I respect it. Yeah, I think it's of course It's really nice. I wish I was more like that What was your what was your what were you like in a pub? I did a weird thing. It's like I don't know it's a fetish or something, but I used to turn up with friends I already knew I go to with friends. Right. Do you never finished working I've been ganging for a p?, I don't think I've ever gone for A actually, that's true. Occasionally I' gone a drink of mine. But when I've done that, I've never made friends with anyone. I've always made friends. I mean, I've had chats with people. You'll love a chat with somebody, but I'm not looking to take it in. I think like that. I think it's one of the most underrated relationships in the world is that person you meet like y You new Jacks, you've had a bit of a crdy old day Its always been hot day and you're like no one else fancies. I mean I was single, a lot and younger so a lot of people would like finish work be going off home to their families And I go, I don't really want to go back to the flat on my own So I'll go for a couple of ps I used to love going in, not knowing at night I know, but okay, but I think I do think you're much better at that than I am, right? I think that you could be amazing. I don' think I could. So so you're really good at it The differeivnce in you and eyes are Well there's a lot of differences, but the difference in this situation is that if I was to start chatting to somebody I would have no desire to take it any f. Like we I think you can have like people can make a cameo and you enjoy that experience. But then you don't have to keep in touch. Yeah, but if there's a sequel If you go back If fate brings you too p I could say, by the way, biggest fucking curveball, right Yeah. You meet them in one pub Two weeks later you're in another pub and they're there. Yeah. Yeah, you're like, what the hell are you doing here And then you have a bit of a laugh about that Yeah before you know. And at what point does it occur to you that you might have changed pubs to avoid it And then it's nice when you swap that number and then before you know you're text and going you know, Bill, you too, mate What you to that? You' done that. You've never done that. No, I don't think so. I just love that. I'm saying that as a self criticism. I've got friends all over this country My ye my friends are and H ay friends with at some point. Fucking how Oh my go Yeah, yeah, now I get it. All right. free to play now. It's like doing a podcast with Trump all over the country But I worked away a lot and Yeah, I've been horrible. No, I respect part. I respect. I think you're a good guy. Yeah Really good guy. onene of the best. and you know, it's good you're making friends with people. Yeah. a lot It doesn't happen have as much. I say you know, I'm going to be actually quite it's not a part going to be quite what It's not a part of life life has changed. you. I don't drink as much. I don't. But I do think that's good about. You make people feel good, you chat to them, it's nice. It's a good quality to have. She should be really proud of yourself Thank you. I'm really proud ofself This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast instead of doom scrolling? Smart move Another smart move getting help from one of state Farm's nineteen thousand local agents when you choose to bundle home and auto. Bundling, J another way to save with the personal price plan. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome, that's new. 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Is it key to a successful relationship? Right. Every seven days have a date night. Yeah. everyvery seven weeks have a night away and every seven months go on a romantic holiday Yeah, what do you think about that Do you know what? me and Katherine just just had at first We went to Lake Como. Yeah for a ten year wedding anniversary. Somebody's watching the Task in Fury documentary. Can I just say on that? We would love you say. We started watching that and it was very triggering for Catherine because's a lot of A lot of his mental health issues are also ones that I share. Yeah, the up and down nature.. That show, by the way, is fire. Yeah, it's incredible. Holy shit. And she is the star of it. Well, I thought she was the star of series one. Yeah. Because I don't think you real nobody realized how challenging it is to live with Tys. Yeah clearly got mal health issues and he admits that Um And then series two, I thought he could feel like you got to see more of what makes him tick than you did in sereries Oes. The Series one was a bit like You're in a bit of shock, But series two, I found I found in ways it's a difficult watch because They've got so much money Yeah And then you've got Tyson few who they've made enough money for three or four lifetimes, more than that, probably right He doesn't need to do anything. Yeah. He does not need to do anything. And Paris is fully aware of that, John Fury's dad's fully aware of that But can't retire because When he goes out, you know, that's thing where we see He is validated. going out and people coming up to and you' a fucking legend away. Yeah And he' he's getting something out of the house that he's not getting in the house. and I'm not That's not an indictment of Paris at all. I think she's an incredible person. I think she's unbelievable actually. Yeah, I do ye. And I think it kids are fun kids. Yeah, they're lovely. But I also do think there's an air of like I think at first someone who had the career as like a boxing geek He to fighter he was and, you know h and to be you I think it's sometimes looked over I went to Win Fort Clitcho and as a Boxing f, it was an incredible performance. But then when you look at like what he went through to come back to fight those wilder fights, which probably the greatest trilogy of boxing fights ever phenomenal fights what his body and his mind went through to go from that to that But also That was such a high. If he'd retired after that, I actually don't think he'd ever likeed properly and gone that's it Oh, ye know But then to a fought UC twice. Well, if those two losses Yeah. I think that messed with them. But also I do think even with what we do to an extent and this is the thing that me and Katherine is like, I'm addicted to what we do as a living I love it more than anything. It's like, you know and I don't he I don't see a part of my life forever, I can imagine not being on stage or not doing something like this or something where I'm I don't do it. It's never been a monetary thing. I've never gone on you know It's just, I love doing what we do. I get a kick I get it's my, you know and a thought of even for like you're this mean you have a week off And we go, you know, the matter times I text you, you text me and you're, I've got a bit of chill time,'ve got bit of time I know within two three days you're texting me again I feel a bit like, you know, you'll never text you. Yeah, summer holidays and whatever. So I get the fact that he you and I think Should it be true that he's got that AJ fight com in which would be, I think confired, isn't it? Yeah That's going to be ahe of actacle. But I enjoyed it. I actually waited this for John as well as I thought you got to see a bit more Jon Fy like. Yeah, I thought I thought he came across really well. Yeah It was a good it was. I mean, fuck going from try to go from Lands endnd to Joonn Groats and sleeping in your cars. We should do that No, I've just a fuck d. we've got we've got a paintball we got the nightclub Yeah. So we need a third thing we're never going to do. No, no, we're doing those boy Paintall and nightl Paintalls happening me and Jo are making plans Is that true? Yeah bys's happening What are you talking about? Yeah, painball's happening with there the paint bow You get picked up, you get taken to aaintb woods All right, It sounds like a threat. You're going to love it Yeahute I think as well you should bring the boys N's try someut. Yeah, all right. And then what's nightclub Yeah, the whole D nightlub that we talked about. Oh, yeah that we're doing. It's some cool stuff happening it? So anyway, seven days, seven weeks a months. Soast Yeah yeah. Last and I decided to start trying to implement this So I took her out for dinner. Yeah And we went to Um What, I don't know if I should okay I will know them or something. Gotier Soho Well Wow Did you know this restaurant? No, but my guy's flexing hard. Well, it's not flex, but It's not flex. Yeahah the name sounds flexy. Yeah, I know the name sounds flexy. Yeah. But so this guy Michelin styar restaurant One day it far gr on the menu some animal activists spoke to him outside the restaurant or I think like nearby or they came and spoke to him And they said he shouldn't have Fargar on the menu. It's cruel and blah blah blah. Agreed. So he looked into it and decided to take Farga off the menu, right? Right. Then he carried on looking at animal stuff. And then started increasing the plant based stuff, the vegan stuff And then eventually he decided he didn't want to harm any animal for his meals and it's completely vegan. Wow So we went there, course tasting menu. Yeah. eightight Cses is a lot a lot. Yeah, reggardless of what the portion sizes are H lot Whennt that Delicious food I don't know if you'd like it. I don't know if John would like. youater very I wouldd describe you as carnivorous Yeah, but also I think I don't want I don't want to be sat opposite you and you're you not as could do with a steak Yeah, but me we go and get a sausage sandwich afterwards. Okay fine. We show you the respect that you deserve and the food deserve. By the way, I'm not inviting either of you to din No I Well maybe me and John will go together. Yeah, I think' Yeah. I'd love to dealing with Joh. Yeah, the most insightful people. I think as usual with these thingsve got to remind you that you need consent of the other part. I'm gonna to get John in the headlock and just marching down to a vegan restaurant. So hold up, rightight. So that's the seven, then you got to do this in a week's time, but also Have you got the seven week plan 'causeuse that's a night away. Yeah. So that's what me and Catherine just did the late coma. Yeah. how was that? Firstly, I'd say, First first time we've done anything without since Gace's my m dad looked after Grace. F first time we've been away just a tervice So you getting excited wholeay Yes. Yeah could do be two decks. Yeah. I was yeah. Neither of which are going to get used. We were Yeahah, but you know what it was just the it felt like a proper well, we had a little buble. What'd you do in Like Kimo on Like Kima, byy Like Kima? on a boat trip. Right And little around some of the local towns. Yeah Just chill quite a lot, just chill Do you have a view across the light? Yeah What's that like? look good in the Tyson. Yeah, it's beautiful You know, the only thing I'd say is so it wass like a beautiful hotel, lovely hotel And Spenny Yeah yeah, I read it Yeah. Not for. I know I'm talking about for people arent You multiple films this year and on tour And, you know and uh So we go I booked this really nice restaurant to go to for our sort of anniversary dinner. fect excited. and then we got sat next to some Americans who are very, very loud as a group, there's like ten of them, all traveling in a sort of coach trip type vibe. And they did the most bizarre thing. They did like what they gave thanks for Um's what, you know So this got passed around the group. So one of them was like, I give thanks every day for the person I've become for the man I am when I get out of bed every day. I believe that I and myself are the one person that navigates the true meaning of being me I fire myself up. I give thanks for having the far inside of my stomach to keep on moving on So this guy's doing this monologue and then his wife is like, I give thanks every day for the men that I marryed Oh my go, so they' both giving thanks for him. Yeah, it's insact right. And then someone else is like I give thanks to the Lord, the man who created this earth The man who put this together every day, Ill pay homage to the man I do his work just, I do anything ye so he's Um, and I was sort of sitting there and I'm like, oh this is, you know, this is for watching and taking a piss out of it And then it gets to the headad of theable table you know, a portly chap who looked like he'd been poured into his chair Oh I go. And u That was horrible. U well He goes I'll give thanks more than anything else in the world for our leader to Donald Trump. for the man that most of this world and he stand he stands at this point in quite a busy restaurant. The most of the world and other countries don't understand the work that this man's done and his legacy will rain down at it woundted known. For generations to come as the man who moved world order, the man who changed the Eth to be a better place He does like a genuine ten minute peace on Trump. Yeah. And like there's other people going By this point, everyone's like, okay, you're a fucking. clearly a prick. Why M he Whver his views are Yeah. Whver your views are? Yeah to feel like the whole restaurant, which is quite a nice restaurant. Whether you disagree with him like me or agree with him like Tom. Yeah, yeah. at the end of the day. He's just been very loud I was whooping and cheering. It kind of took the shine off was a lovely. I mean, we took the Mc and it went a laugh. So I didn't know Americans like Lake Coma. M it's I'd say yeah, American Japanese a lot of that But also by a shout out there was a One English person I met out there Wf Alfan. just got married came over, lovely credit to credit to the Wolf and our listeners, credit to everyone Beautiful young man. Scottish Bara Oh, that's the end. Yeah, Okay so. I had a of an awkward interaction with somebody yesterday. What happened U So I'm on the Tine on the W Him. Yeah. We So after dinner we went to get Charlie Oliver out Charlie still smashing it. And then We're on the train and a woman sits opposite me and she looks at me and she starts cracking up. Wow, right Is' Charlie sitting with you? Charie's with me, Lisa iss with me, right? And he goes she goes o Oh my God, you're not going to believe this. She sends her phone round for now. Okay, rightight? Yeah So she goes, this is too weird And I go, yeah, it's quite weird. But then I sort of felt bit I just I don't know how to explain it. I felt bit awkward. I didn't know how to react It is a bit weird. She's set opposite. Yeah. She's set opposite the motherfucking owl. Do what I mean? Yeah Yeah. Anyway. so then I go, yeah it's a bit weird. But then I feel like I didn't give her the reaction that she wanted. And so Then she goes,h I can't listen to you while I'm sitting opposite you on the train And she goes, it's too weird. And I said, yeah, is a bit, I guess. And then she said I'm gonna listen to Rob Becket instead or something And I said, you know, I sort of did something about it. I think that might be weirder or something like that. I don't know. Yeah. Anyway, it's not the electric. Yeah. What bec Charlie m Oh that's my dad. Charlie justort san there looking closer at his phone I's not with him, by the way. shifts away I'm a West end actor. And then a bo I think I disappointed her Because she just look you're on your night off. She looked a bit crestfallen. C I just say you're on your night off? I know, but still it It was bad. I'm telling what I'm saying to my performance in that interaction was bad. Can I It would get a bad review. Can I say I think she'd go home and she'd go You're not gonna to fucking believe that. I had a very strange interaction with someone that Yeah The banding canon Yeah Yeah, the b canannon Yeah, he wasn't firing that night. Oh wow, what's going? We've got your gift and we actually seems a really weird place to bring the gift out now What are you talking? Well, we've talked about merch and I've been We've talked about merch and you've just told a story. I was going to give this to you a bit later on at the end as a sort of summing up. this feels like the perfect time to do it We've had this done Oh no Oh yeah It's an arsenal shirt. Banter Con on the back. What number Yeah, Ben Count and won So yeah, I know that you've said for ages about getting like a shirt arsle shirt with writing on the back. how the fuck we going to wear that? We wear to the game M, you've got to weareness to the game Serious, how how am I ' I got to say it says Banta Cannon one on the back. What What's your crest The gun is the cannon You're the bana Cannon. Now I get I get this on so many levels. No I would say it better From me and the team have gone to some expense and some effort to get this done. Is this a real arsen shirt That's a proper arsen shirt. That you put bantaannon across the back of it That's your What am I supposed to do with that? You gotta wear this to a game So when you I mean you have a jacket I then take it off during the game, but that What would you do? Okaykay First of all, thank you, veryy nice of you to go to that much trouble What would you do if you were at a game? you saw somebody wearing a shirt and it said ban to cannon on it I' think there's no no, no, no, you wouldn't. no be honest with me. What would you think? Okay, I both think all right, let's just see what he's got But that if that person iss Romish Reagan Athan, who I think that's where the nation kind of knows you. I pro it's the real deal. It's a fucking great shirt by the way That make that you me and Jon were saying you've not got a shirt for this season You have now. Guys Guys, think about it. I amm grateful, but think about it What the fuck you talking about? We need to we need to get you to a game in this You got you go to any more games this season I don't think so no. Oh I was going to go to everyone, but You could wear at home with the boys Yeah. I don't even think I could wear this in front of the boys Cuse you can. If your dad sat down next to you to watch the game he's wearing a shirtays banterann on the back I don't want the boys to be satw watching the footallground. Oh I suspected it, but I've had it confirm my dad's a fucking helmet Nover you can tell us a gift from the lads And go so why did they think that you should have banet cananonies? Because that's the name the name I know but what I'm saying is the kids are going to go Now it's also bad because you've got this story where you your b ban has st. Maybe that's the thing you need. It's like Superman or Spider Man If you put that on it, it' keep your banner going When you do self deprecation so well M I think that's yeah. Well, thank you very much. No yeah I think you know, this me and the team shout out Everyone, Ben John? What made you do this? Georgi It was yeah, No we did it because we just that's your new nickname The owl, the ban C cannon. I mean we could have actually Rich Fit just got the owl on it Yeah, because that would have been wearable It was a fucking was up the sight also. Um, yeah. It's a ce Yeah Well thank you very much. I think can you get the name the printing tape? It wears off anyway. I've got a few with players names on. Yeah. And after a few years it wears off. My Delom rice one is complete one of my Dclon rice ones. Yeah Yeah's in a few years, Tom we'll be able to rush them. she goes, who's Aam All right, well, thank very much. It's very sweet of you Uncovered windows can make your home feel up to twenty degrees hoter. 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And then they as we're getting the whatever the bus thing to the terminal They start a bit of a conversation they used it Some people that I knew, I think you know as well for comedy And then it's quite interesting person. they work for MI five which is you know quQuite cool job and we're chatting away and this person is very chaty So much so evenven I'm like, wow, I think I'm I'm almost letting this side down here. Yeah. I've and also it was a long flight whver And then, uh, And then they turn around and said, And I said something about I said, Bummish. I said, I was's not my best m. And I Oh, really? I was like, Yeahah, yeah, it's like I sort of ye we do a podcast together. We've been friends for years these like Well my brother basit in she was like Oh yeah u he's really up and down, isn't he? Not really? He' preay very consistent as being as far as I'm concerned P pretty decent chap I went, Well, I've met him like a couple of times. and one time he was like the loiest person in the world and the next person he was quite mean. I was like mean. mean And she was like, he just didn't really want to like chat at all I don't I don't think that's mean. I that's just like maybe, you don't know what's happened in his day And then she was like, o no, yeah, he was just a bit like stand offffish And I was like Okay, yeah, but yeah, sometimes that's just how life is. I said, What's the scenario? And she's like, he'd finished his show and I walked up and said it was a good show and he just was like, Oh, thank you What the fuck do you want me to he? Yeah know it was an insane thing And I was like, None of this feels mean. And I was like If I'm honest with you, he's pretty much And also I said he's like weirdly you know, quite not shy, but he's not he's just not I'm quite a ggarious person Yeah in a lot of ways. And I was with one of my one of the independent people who's also met you and she was going, he's probably one of the kind his reputation is One of the nicest people in the industry literally bend over to get a picture, not bend over. That's a weird thing to say. But you're ag the s. No no, but she's no, I think everyone knows it you.. No, but if you want if some want's a pictureure, I will bend over. I will bend over a picture For anyone. But yeah, it was just a really weird interact where I found myself getting not heated, but I was like You know that thing where youre like Y your choice of words, if I didn't know Ramish and said you said me I'd assume he'd been done something quite horrible, which he just he was you said, couldn't you have a picture? and he was like, yeah. That was it. It wasn't mean. I just found it a bit of a weird. You know, there's that thing now, isn't there? Not the thing, but This, um, I think you should put on that shirt for the rest of the podker Geometer. I think you should Yeah And then we should do a picture afterwards where like it signed for my football team and he's holding his Thank This could gu the weeight that you w in the league Let's co Yeah Yeahs. You look like a player with it on like that They are Yeah. f energy. Yeah. Yeah, but it's a weird so sorry you were say before you put your shirt back there. What was that? Oh, so it's a thing of like so there was a time but in the past if you'd have told me that I'd have gotten really worried that there's somebody out there that doesn't like me or thinks I've been b. She didn't say she didn't like you by way. No, but up and down or whatever. And then you start worrying that people like and I'm sure there's more than like that can't be the only person that thinks that about me. Yeah. And there must be people that think well of course. M most people think that about you. Yes Yeah You just have to accept that, don't you? Yeah can't you cannot be in control of those things. Yes. but Weirdly, you said some stuff to me where like about how you deal with it and then doing therapy at the moment I in the last, just in the last fortnight, three weeks felt a lot of like, I've let a lot of that stuff go He yeo, that's good. Like like just just as a peopleap blazer and someone who's constantly like Al worried, Ohh yeah, what's this person think was that? Yeah youah, did it And now I'm like, Well, there's never a time in my life that I step in and try to be a prick or got way my way to be rude or I also can't ye I can't Circumstanceces a thing. I might be with grace. you know, over the last, I mean, you over for last three or four months, I've had up and downs with a lot of different stuff going on So how I start of the day could be quite a in a sad or negative place And then to have to walk out that day and walk through the whole day with a smile. I might have suuff on my mind. Well I'll never be rude. I'm also there's times where if someone's interacting with me, I might just not be one hundred percent present because I've got something going on at home So I think that I used to worry all the time just o go shit that person. And now I'm just a bit like, you know what? It's like if that's upsetting them I feel you know that ye I didn't have an intention of doing that. but I can't be wary for constantly worrying about. Yeah. I do think you have to sort of let that sh shit go. I was reading this thing about how One of the things about people pazing Yeah, which I think we're both guilty of. Johon's guilty, as far as it know. Yeah, ye, tragic. but he's really triing to please someone who doesn't seem very pleased today. What does that mean? A about the cana. H my reaction not been good enough? No, I think what I feel like if if we see you in your b I might look let me just get this out of the way. I'm very grateful that you've gone to the trouble. I'm actually very touched that you've gone to the trouble of getting this done on a throwaway thing I said And if I remember from the clip social media clip didn't actually get This is not we're not we've not made a compemorative sh of a viral moment from the podcast Yeah, but what me and John were doing here almost unnot. But what we're trying to do is try to push these things so they can step up a level and get up to the kissing and the big fire. I don't I don't want you to do affirmative action on my social media clip where I said Bantcan, okay? I don't need you to do that. But now you are the bank account. Yeah. But the point I'm trying to make know you could be like Oh mate, this is something to maybe think about Moving look at the guy at this M City game who does the thing with the ar or bottle of water You don't think gu' be that I'm just saying you could be like Next time ask the play And you're in the crowd. Tom, you go like that. like that. You score a go, you tell you're back. Tom be honest with me. Yeah. You're walking along to a game. Yeah and you see somebody wearing a shirt that says banter cannon on the back What is your immediate react No, I'm like firstly I'm going to go I want to Dilv, this guy will have a chat with him Right, a guy I'm going to check if he's actually got some real issues. I mean, I can't take No, but I think they're going to be a bit of fun, you I mean? If I saw somebody banter cannon across their back. You're not going to say that. But listen, if I saw somebody with banter cannon across their back, even if they werere on a fucking stag doough, I think Sunday There's no other there's no way other way you could think about that. Yeah, but You've got that on your back, right right? You're at the arrsenal, right? You're ne with the boys. Alex and Charlie. Lash's with you, right? You slip off your fucking dado jacket Right And ye or your leather jacket in your case, right He's theuff your leather jacket And you've got banter canan on the back Yeah. I guarantee his hands on your shoulder and I'll go. this case is come to play He's going to be a laughful go Yeah, and then on'm no. Yeah, but you've got the It puts a certain level of expectation, doesn't it? You know what you need to do then, you need to start thinking a called you chance you could start chanting you've got the right orr not wear the shirt. I'm trying to think what is the easier option here? No either. You couldot wear the shirt when it's a gift You've got basically you start you know like when people have the chance they start singing about a player. What's the biggest want to asksort at the moment N if your w ls your draw we out of score.. It's all nowhere the band of canon He's one of your own He's one of your own Oh about a Kevin, He's one of your own Let the butterfly let the butterfly There's log that you could do. Ban bana, give us a wife. Bana, give us a wife So you' have loads of fun Bys we fucking up about you dad't I You know what you they would say that. it'd be like this fucking owl. That's you, dad You know what you could get Charish shts this little bank of Canon yeah, you. Charlie, put that on and let's see if you survive today To back to Cnon too Anyway, look, thanks so much for this shirt. It's nice to wear it for the first and last time. You could have the frraid to wear that youraterial on reor I love that sh. Thank you. Well, I wish this would have come down as well ' on that's really thoughtful. Would you want to get a frame for you and you have it I'm not having what would you if? Okay, let me ask you this question. You walk in someone's house? And show's actually more pride in this gift than the other showt You walk in? Yeah. And there's a frame shir it says Banta Canon one on it We'd have to get a picture of you we wherear it me meaning a couple of the players The fact that you put what? it's sort of you've ruined it twice. You not only think back the he doesn't know how fucking numbers work in a football team because it should be the goalkeeper Yeah that's yeah, it could have got you a goalkeeper I don't want the goalkeeper shirt No, yeah, we should have gone back to canon ten. Yeah or fourteen player. But you put one It's literally the fucking worst of both. Yeah, Yeahah, but's what's the worst The thing is you were saying you were the number one we acc. What's the I didn't say number one. I never said that What's the worst? I said number one batan you did, Yeahah Did not? Yes I think I said it. Yeah So what have I got I've got to wear it there then? You're the ban of Cannon, You werear the ban of Canon And you' noble bank account anyway I don't want to undermine this. Yeah. I'm actually very touched. I think you feelt if it was tucked in If was talkucked to him job wass talked to him in Yeah. Be people won't get their feet caught on it as they're shoe in the sh Right, T Let's fucking wrap this. Well, can I just say, I think it'll be nice to see you You know you see the pictures of the celebrity fans. Yeah. there's like you No, right in Wiley, whoever else, in right. Me, Moan Wiley He' right Y mean Yeah. And the guy that you go with quite a lot was's his name Josh would like it to get laugh out of it All right, wrap us up please Wow It funy, isn't A names on this. eet Jon. sweet Joh That's what I call him affectionately That's the thing A nickname could almost be as passionate as a real name It's what your friends might give you. Whether it's hey, there goes Goofy or flloppy or the panic canon It's something that symbolizes how people might think about you. And that can be affectionate but can also be upsetting I guess that's the thing about life, isn't it Sometimes we don't choose the steps we make. they the fools in which we fall But one thing we can do is if something offends you or upsets you is turn around ag go Not really feeling the b of canon today guys. You know what? I don't really feel much like pebbles today And that's the thing, if you've got tr friends, I'll understand. push you to wear shirt you don't want to wear or a cat that might signify a tour that you're trying desperately to sell tickets to gun very much like banic canannon And a roundabout was my nickname and I ran for it for a long time. And then One quiet night when I was deciding on the name for my new tour I decided to own it And I guess that's the thing Owning the things that might trip you up And all we can hope for one day. Is ro my frank and I said Banner Canonur In the moment, friends provroided a real runner for you this, isn't it? Thank you so much for listening and watching. The Wolf and O podcast Wolfpodumer. com We will see you on the email episode. Yes. Peace Ow. That's the wolf Ow AKA, the banicannon O.