Final Thoughts on Human Fallibility

Lemonada You ain't we all you a wayade it weird. Yes, you did it weird. You made it weird. With Pete Holmes. What's happening, weirdos? Funniest end to the podcast ever . We were just joking about what am I gonna say about this episode. This is a trip. I love this one. Starts pretty lit up, middle, sort of a soft, gooey, like a little sad in the middle. No, no, no, I don't mean that part. That was I'm including that as the beginning. Okay. There is a lot of Val. Val, and I'm gonna give her some context, context that I think might be helpful. I know you mention it, but Val just shot a couple shorts that she wrote and directed and acted in. And one of them involves her doing a rather central pole dance. And one of them involved you directing and acting at the same time. So you you talk a lot about that process , which is super interesting and how we are understanding each other even more. Not that we needed it . And then in the middle I get depressed about male friendship and its and its impossibilities, but it's peppered with a lot of healing vowel energy, H V E, where you're giving you're like talking me out of this black hole. And then I get really lit up about how AI is Nexium. Yeah. And that popped right at the end, in my opinion, when we needed a nice pop. But it might be the whole episode is great, but that AI Nexium thing at the end is is one of my favorite things that I've had to share about AI. Mm-hmm. And you know I love talking about it and it's and it's hopeful and I think it's interesting. But we have like three acts. We have Yeah, I guess we're never able to really do this uh in the intro because we go we ping pong all over the place. But there really were like three topics discussed. This this is a three topic, three act structure. And I will I I you do live your life. I don't know where you're headed. Do whatever you want. You might be on your way to the ER . I don't know where you're headed. Listening to this. Throwing on your favorite pod to stay calm on your way to the ER. I don't know. Uh what a weird example. I just did it doesn't matter why I riffed that. Uh it doesn't matter. I could tell you why, but it's boring. I am so glad everybody is here. Thank you for listening. Uh Val and I talk about it a little bit in this episode how much we love doing these episodes and having this built-in little check-in little date. So we're glad you're here. Uh I'm not going to say much. Silly, silly fun boy is available on YouTube .com. Sorry, www. youtube.com . Spells to Cast on Your Parents is my kids' book. It's available for pre-order. Um please pre-order that. Who cares? And uh number three is um PeteHomes.com for all my tour dates. We got all sorts of tour dates coming up. All sorts of tour dates. All sorts of tour dates. Beautiful tar dates. All right. Valerie. Get into it . Amazon Health AI presents painful thoughts . Why did I search the internet for answers to my cold sore problem ? Now I'm stuck down a rabbit hole filled with images of alarmingly graphic sores in various stages of ooze . I can clear my search history. But I can never unsee that. Don't go down the rabbit hole. Amazon has The she er The sheer talk . Oh my god . That's what it feels like the moment you hit record . Well, before this, Lord knows we've been sitting in a dank, heatless room with a candle b urned down to a neb umin. Like a couple of powered down robots. Just staring at the corners. I was gonna say I forget what I was gonna say. What did I say? That's all I That's what you said That's what you said I was gonna say the sheer thrill Oh yes Very different I'll note from your and tal k . I was saying the sheer thrill of uh the unknown. You don't know where it's gonna go. Here we are. Here we are in outer space. I'm thrilled. Are you? Well, the sheer thrill of it. I do spend a lot of my time wondering if you live in a prison of your own making. You really do. You really do. I know for someone who really I do enjoy myself, but I do sometimes go like surely no one else could. I mean And that's not even surely someone who lives with me must stop at some point. Because I'm like, Val erie, like calling you down to do the podcast. And I was like, this is and this everyone knows I'm gonna go here. I always think in terms of like an indie movie and you're upstairs packing for our trip tomorrow. And like you just hear me, Valerie. And it's just like it's like a roll doll novel where you're about to discover a magical medicine or a giant or a maybe a peach. But you need out. By medicine giant or peach. You need out. One way or another. By medicine giant or peach. Something's gotta change. Like that is. The podcast is already paid out. I have to get this off my chest. I've been doing so many look over the past six months. So nobody's gonna be able to like reverse detective which ones I'm talking about. Mm-hmm. I've been doing a lot of podcasts to promote my YouTube special silly, silly fun boy. Yeah. Let's just get this out of the way. I'm not talking about bad friends. That just dropped. But uh because there are certain people that do it and that are into it, and then they're and there are others, and it might be me misreading it. All I want to say is there's so many podcasts now, and it's been commodified so much now that you never know. Am I doing a podcast where two people want to find buy medicine or giant or peach and have fun with their lives? Or is this just some fucking reverse-engineered deal? And I'm happy to say to you, dear listeners. This is the true blue over here . You know those flags with the blue stripe on the American flag? That's actually support of this podcast. That's actually uh podcast flag. People don't know that, that's our podcast . I'm gonna take off my sweatshirt, so you have a good 13 . Okay, well I am happy to say I'm happy to say that uh forty-five minutes ago I was uh talking to my therapist who just asked if we were still doing our podcast. You guys still together. So first of all, that's how much I never mention it in therapy, which is means because I like it and all's good in the hood, baby. As opposed to a therapist that goes, and how's podcast? And how's the podcast? Not even the podcast. And how's podcast? Uh she said, Are you still doing the podcast? And I said, Yeah. We've done like some two hundred and eighty something . Two hundred and more two hundred and more episodes. Uh we started when I was ten years old. Um and I was like, it's so you know, everything that we say to the listeners in the intro, but I really said it to my therapist where I said it's so corrective for us I know people who were raised religious, where you like can't be transparent about anything to get to practice being transparent and vulnerable. And then it's like so good for our marriage to get to show up for each other in this way where we can't talk about logistics and we can't, you know, and we're not one of those couples that talks about logistics all the time, mostly because you have an intolerance to it. Mostly. Which I'm grateful for. I ha my my therapist today called me uh neurospicy. Neurospicy is so non neurodivergent. Just a little neurospiciness. Because I was like, I the more honest I get, I hope I'm not interrupting. I hope I'm building. No. Am I building or interrupting? Both. Can't it be both? Can't it be both? I was just saying the same thing to her about my inability to plan. And we were saying, I was like, I don't know what that is, and she was like, it's neurospicy. Neurospicy. Neurospicy. She sounds so much like my therapist. This is when we finally found out, yeah. This is our margar itaville. What's the No, not Margaritaville. What's the other one? Um Oh, if you like Pina Coladas. The other the other overly sweet rum or tequila drink. Yes. Song. By the same person, right? No . What? No. Oh, you're right. That was more of a country song. Sounds like a country song. Does you guys know that reference? That money. Well, just like listeners, but do you? Sounds like a is it like Nickelodeon? Is that like all that or something? No. And I don't appreciate you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm proud that I loved all that. I'm proud you loved all that. All that raised you into the Pisa Ace I love. That's exactly right. Um no this is from the wedding singer and it's when he Oh yeah when Glenn punches him and he's like how about you write a song about this? I got punched in the face for sticking . Yeah, yeah, where yeah, where it does come along and uh the old man he's with goes, sounds like a country song. Yeah, and isn't that blue? My boy blue. Oh yeah, it is blue. Yeah, yeah. There was one comedy old guy for a while. Mm-hmm. And I'm not gonna riff on that. No. That's done. That is done. We're done done talking. Look . I'm I know we do ads, but we don't do uh Patreon. Nothing against it. Sometimes I flirt with the idea of only doing Patreon. We could just get rid of all our ads and just do Patreon. And if every single listener promised vowed . Hand on Bible. Every single casual listener vowed to join our Patreon. I would happily pull the plug on what has been working for over a decade. But if we did do a Patreon where it was the video of We Made It Weird, which we'll never do because I love how ham radio it is. Yeah. I love how you know we're up in my tree house, I got my nudie mag s . It's like jerking off in a time machine . Wait, what's that from? Stepbrothers . Sounds like a country zone. I don't know if we'll ne I mean we have currently no interest in doing a video. But I Well, I wa I didn't even finish the thought, which is you just when you broke your eye contact and you went, That's done. You set it into a void. You didn't say it to me. I will say it into a void. Mm-hmm and I do want to talk about this. Uh I have a lot to say about this topic, but I d would just like to get a little teaser. A Sousson? A Sousson. Um I I've done two I've shot two ki well, I've done two shoots in the last three weeks. Yeah. And where I 'cause Valerie's on the golden road. 'Cause I'm the golden road. Um she's writing, she's directing, she's producing, she's acting. And these two were the first ones that I've acted in. And the first one we've we're in the middle of editing. And boy is my face tired. It doesn't make sense. But I'm trying to say is I am the I think I might be the most expressive person in I mean I don't know what's happening but I feel like I'm a boat. You know when a boat goes through ice? Yeah. Like Frankenstein. Uh-huh. Love . I just really got a mo a like strong desire to rewatch that. When don't get me started, but when you say do you want to watch a movie, your brain will give you a spread of like thirty, maybe fifteen to thirty snapshots of that movie. And Frankenstein is a boat going into ice and that's how it starts. Yeah. And that is like a very like I'll I'll rewatch that. Where's that boat going? Totally. It's very good. It's very good. I mean and it is like I'm going to give myself over to this thing that takes it's pretty har hard to give yourself over to but boy is it it's worth it. In fact when I I I what I'm trying to step out, I don't think I quite did it, is like you say do you want to watch The Wedding Singer? And I'm going to tell you what I see. Do you want to watch the Wedding Singer? Okay, Adam Sindler's uh friend is bringing over a CD player. That's Glenn, not his friend, but yes. Glenn? Glenn, the guy she's very . Glenn Goulia 's her Glenn Goulia gets her a CD player. She's the jackass . That was like 500 bucks. Yeah. I go, okay, I go right to Drew Barrymore's very cute haircut. Yes. I go to things I could have known yesterday. I go to him drunk, singing, and needing to be shaved. I have the microphone and you will listen to every word I say. And then I go to the airplane uh grow old with you with Billy Idol. And then I say yes. Yes. You do it now. Ready? I uh do you wanna watch the Princess Bride? Oh, I go to the first shot of them kissing, like when she's saying goodbye to him. When they're lovers. When they're love well, yeah, like in the beginning. She's the servant he's the servant boy. Mm-hmm. I go to as you wish. I go to as as you you wish w.ish Which . Down the hill downhill as you wish. No, I go to the jug as you wish because that is so sexy. When they are free. When she's like, Can you fetch that picture there? Oh shit. And then he like it. Yeah, that makes my vagina moist. Love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The the hills as you wish. With the perfect D to-ta D-demkasing . Yes. He's being demasked perfectly. Oh yeah, absolutely. Who was the Hill's agent? Because his agent was like, I got a hill that you need to roll down and be demasked by. And the fact that she throws herself down too is like both funny and charming. That's love. It's so good. That's what love is. That's like sounds like something that like a real fiery Italian relationship would say. No. But also this very just kind of bland white. Parenting it's very yeah, it's all it's all true. It's like look, I'm gonna get a little banged up, but where you go, I go. And that goes back to iceberg. Uh finish your s your list though. Because clearly fezek holding the rock and going, I come for fifty. Yeah, anybody want a peanut. I mean there's actually it's so hard to narrow it down. Yeah, but that's why I want like the first and like really what's interesting to me about this game, which we're calling first flashes. Yeah. Is when do you say yes? Like oh I say yes first one . With the jugs. Yes. When he's cupping her jugs. For that one I do. But other movies it takes a while. I'm so with you. Yeah. Will you do will you give me the gift of giving me one? It has to be a movie I'm very familiar with, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you wanna watch? Do you wanna watch for those of you that just turned your radios on, we're playing first flag I'm gonna I'm gonna indulge you and say, Do you want to watch Born Identity? Oh my god. Oh my god. Well the first thing is uh Jason Bourne in the turtleneck the crew give him after they pull him out of the sea. He's a fur cozy kind of green gray, like it's a little big. It's a little big. Oh my god. He wasn't on the crew. He borrowed it from one of the one of the beer sw elling fishermen. And I bet he pulls it off. I don't remember. Of course he does. I'm sure he does. I just said on another podcast I was like, Matt Damon is like someone fixed Mike Barbiglia. He looks great. Somebody somebody kind of AID Mike Burbiglia. Somebody put Mike Burbiglia into an AI and was like, Can you make this better? And it just turns into Matt Damon. That's not too far from Matt Damon, Mikey. No, I think Matt I think Mikey does look like Matt Damon. Mm-hmm. And I love Mikey very much. And I've I've said that exact burn damn. There's no talking out of school here. So yeah, there's the turtleneck, but I love that. I think there was an algorithm before algorithms were really the thing that we all talk about that would predict whether or not a movie was a success. And it one of the metrics it used was where is the open ing scene? I've talked about this before. It's a real snooze. It's a Malcolm Gladwell thing. There's and the example they use is the Nicole Kidman movie, The Interpreter, opens in like the Congo, and they were like, that's negative twenty-five points. I believe that. I 'm like you can't open in the Congo. Well, I will tell you. You open at C in a chunky turtleneck. Yes. Or in some like beautiful location. I'm telling you. That's why so many sh movies start with the aerial views of the city. Isn't that American beauty? I know it ends on the aerial view. I don't know, but like you know what I mean? Like the cityscapes where it's like bad um badum badom, bad banom, bum yeah, yeah, yeah. Going through the street. New York in your skin huts. And the car peels around the corner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, but also I love McGruber is one of my favorite movies of all time, and I don't like the beginning because he's like somewhere like the Congo. I know when they find him. When they find him. Yeah, yeah, but he does the flip from the seated position. That's my first flash. Ask me if I want to No, no, no. Do you want to watch McGruber? Okay. I go straight up to to uh no you can't ride in the back, but and then you always say yes. If I yes. I and then I go right to celery. I go to my favorite jokes really if all I thought about was no you can't ride in the back bud and no you can't ride in the back bud bud and no you can't ride in the back and then the celery in his ass. When I saw the cell, we've talked about this before. It was one of the hardest laps of my life. Uh-huh. It's set up perfectly. He finds the celery in the trash and he's like, I I got a few tricks up my shit. I got I got an idea. I got an idea. And it's just him clucking with its celery in his ass. I've never wanted to be Ryan Felipe more than to just be on that set. That is just exactly what's funny to me. I can't bear it. Or and then like that she's dressed up as him. And then it cuts and they're both dressed up as him. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. And I got a Kristen Wig playing the piano. Me too. I was gonna that was gonna be my next one, I swear to God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like it's like one minus two is you. Yeah . I also want to say in Born Identity, there's a no special effects shot where a killer gets up and he just runs and jumps out a window like he kills himself. It's like a very uh sort of disturbing part of Born Identity. You don't think of this. And then Pamela Len. No, that's that's ultimatum. Born ultimatum boot . So anyway, my boat has been going through ice and then your little dinghy , beautiful dinghy, little dinghy, is right coming up my oil, my oil banger, boy. It's a banger. People say it's a banger. Can you picture Trump requesting a song at a wedding? Oh my god. Could you put on black eyed peas? Let's get it started. I don't like the R-Word version. I like the one that everyone can enjoy. Oh my god, he's even like he's kinda won't considerate about it. I know it's the R word. I don't like when Fergie lowered herself to that. Prefer let's get it started. Get what started. Jokes on you, it's getting rich . I prefer the junk in your trunk, not the junk in your mouth. Is that what he says? Is that what he says? No. Sh Fergie has the like junk in her trunk line. There's like a junk in their trunk . Maybe I'm getting that wrong. Oh in the song it says put this junk in your mouth? No. Junk in the mouth is like a bad word. Like the R word. It's ungettable. Forget it. I understand. This is why I'm only in a dinghy and you're in a big shit. No . I think my riff stands. They say let's get it started, but what they're getting started is getting like that like a different comedian could make that joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And to great success. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. As you may know, May is Mental Health Awareness Month, and I do think it makes a good reminder that everybody in the world, everybody is carrying something. 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Because when I did season one of HBO's Crashers, I was like, Jesus Christ, somebody give like give me Botox so I can't move my face so much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. I want thatin Ray Fe's face. I want that Voldemort. Not even Ray Voldemort. Voldemort face. Give me the full Voldemort . Give me the Ray Fein's in hours of prosthetics. I want Voldemort before you've even brushed them, airbrushed them. So you can see the piece? Yeah. The cod piece. Well that's actually what I wanted to talk about is that it is one of the things is that it's helping me understand perform Yeah, you're doing a thing about somebody overcoming sex shame through the the art of poll. Yes. Basically. And in early polling shows, boners are up seventy percent . But um so I really am so proud of you. I know you are. I know. And it is and we shot it and it's beautiful. And that one is like so yeah, so that was on Friday. Today is Monday and I'm still recovering and m mostly because it was such a physical feat to like lift m pull myself up onto a pole for six hours straight. Yeah. Um but also because it felt like my wedding. It was so fun. I was it was so like sparkly and beautiful and they they we like rare really spared no expense, not really, but like we went big with this shoot, like we had a study cam, we had several cameramen and like a big like professional light show and it was like Well we talked about that. I was like, this is like a stunt or a sex scene. You don't want it to be Let the rest of it be cheap, but if you start looking Yeah, it was really good advice and we did that. And it's so it is took a moment to step out my own good advice. It was just stunning how they made it look. And then on top of that, it's like all of my girlfriends are there doing my makeup and hair, fixing me, like tweaking. Do you need your water? Do you want cough? Like, do you and then I was like, oh my God. I really understand how performers can start being kind of insane. Diet Coke. Yeah. Like McJagger story. Yes. Diet Coke. Exactly . Like it's just such a vulner you're doing so it because the way I've always seen it, I don't think there should be a hierarchy uh on sets. I think everybody is working really hard at their job. And s the sets that I've been on feel the best when everybody feels supported and appreciated in their job and like everybody is so good at their jobs that it's easy to do that. And that's how I the times that I've been the director or uh on sets at all involved, I really, really try to create that environment of like, hey, you are so good at your job. Thank you for doing it and getting us the gift of your job and all of that. So I don't think there should be a hierarchy. And in the past I have looked at actors and the way actors can act as like or behave as like I was gonna give you that note. Yeah. Oh. Is like that it's d you know what's funny is I just like started to panic 'cause I realized I've gone the longest stretch I think I've ever gone without you interrupting me, and so I'm like I know it's a thrill, isn't it? I'm like he's listening to me, I gotta go. Don't blow it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't overthink it. Yeah, yeah,ah ye. Okay. Okay, so behave. Okay. And oh, I've just thought of them as ac like how they behave being like everybody's job is hard. Like I know your job is hard, but everyone here's job is hard. But and I don't think actors should be like treated above others. You made that clear. Get to the juice, get to the spice. Here's the thing. What I realized in now having done many different jobs on set, the thing about performing is that it is as hard as everyone else's job and you're be you have a lot of pressure on you in this specific like public kind of way and you have to be vulnerable. So the combo of like being feeling pressure and having to be vulnerable and working hard is like an insane combo. And you do feel like I can't be talking to you about this right now. I have to really get my head on straight before I do this thing. And of course I didn't say that to anybody, but like I had the feeling of like, yeah, you can bring me my co like I didn't like it when you offer. I'm like, yeah, I'll say yes to this because like I need I can't take the extra steps in this six inch heel stepping over cords and stuff to like go get my coffee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is this is a tricky area, but it's literally like a liability to have you clip clop over there. Yeah, yeah. We need to get you bring you a coffee. But it is the vulnerability. And I I would add to it, like there's some projects where the actor isn't the stake, meaning the main course, the performance isn't the main that's true. There's some people that like sort of famously really their method and the way they frame it and the way they light it and the music and all this stuff is more important than the acting. Yeah. But most of the time people are tuning in. I just heard our our our our favorite Canadian filmmaker Matt Johnson talk about this. It's not really what gear you use it's what you point the camera at yeah and it's like so if you are the thing and the that's a lot of pressure yeah totally okay and and I'm I' I thinkve made myself clear that I'm not promoting bad behavior or saying that anybody owed me anything. I just have never really experienced that specific type of touchiness. And then the other thing and this comes back around to like how I this is helping me appreciate you, is that uh doing these two different shoots in three weeks, I've ha I've experienced like it's such an insane heightened state when you're doing it that it takes days to recover and recalibrate. Like so the dopamine levels are all off. It's like I remember the times that I've experienced this before. I'm sorry, my phone was on. Um one was our wedding, obviously. I like felt like when we got to our honeymoon, I remember feeling like this is really exciting, but I feel like I'm not feeling it in the same way that I would be because I'm st I'm coming down from the high of our wedding still. Like it's all just and then the uh the other time I remember feeling it was the first time I saw Beyonce. The next day my friend Annie and I were just sort of like roaming around New York and we had we were like, oh, we're having like withdrawals . Like it was such a heightened day day that like it just is you you're almost it's like a hangover. It's it's a vulnerability hangover, but also just like a dopamine hangover. And so, you know, yesterday I tried to like not be on my phone as much because I noticed that I'm like, you also get so like I'm embarrassed to say this, but you like get so used to like feeling sparkly and pretty. So then I'm just on Instagram more because I'm looking for that kind of validation again or something. So then I put my phone away and I like worked in the yard for a while and that felt really good. And it was I just feel like I'm slowly coming back to finding pleasure in my everyday life again. And it's and so it's making me think of you because you do these weekends where you're doing five shows, and there's been I've only experienced it from my point of view where I'm solo parenting during that time, and then you get home, and I'm like, okay, great, you're home, like go ahead, I need to rest. And and like you there's always a rough sort of adjustment day. Yeah. And I like see I've experienced that now. Like how that happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly it. And it's appreciate We're always very polite on the road and and we're Matt and I always joke about how low maintenance we are. But there have been so many times when I get there and like my rider, which is preposterously unsexy, is cornflakes and almond milk. Yeah. And the reason that's in there is because sometimes you're coming straight from the airport, you didn't eat and you just need to load up on something that's just kind of carby and sugary and light and uh just road tested. Yeah. I can perform well on cornflakes. I don't know why. Yeah. And they just don't have it. Yeah. And that happens over and over and over. And I'm just like , you you you're tempted. I never do. I'll say it to Matt. I'm like, it's not a huge ask. It's it's not a huge ask. It's like, and that's asking somebody to whatever nicely to get your coffee because you're trying to you're trying to like steal yourself. Mm-hmm . When you're when you're on set or you're about to do a show, you're living in this heightened, like this condensed state. And after you do it, even if it was only five, six hours for your shoot or whatever, that expands over days. And you so it's like the ramifications of those actions in that time period. So the shows, it's not just the shows, it's the like I wake up uh well I've talked about this too much, but you wake up in the night with lines, cuts, edits, you're just scribbling. So many big changes have been written on holiday in, you know, little notepads. Mm-hmm. And that's really the cost of it. And that's why it's a job. And it's not chill. And my dinner before the show is not chill. None of it is chill. Yeah. And none of your day was chill. And it's super fun. It's both. Yeah, it is both. Well that's the weird thing is that it feels sort of like a drug , but it's not bad for you. Like it is like a good thing. You're in like a flow state, it's's it creative life force, like it's very good, it's high vibrations. But I see how people get addicted to chasing that feeling because you're like , well now I'm just home like fixing the chicken goop and I'm not getting any kind of pleasure out of it like I would have before I was in a sparkling gown like with all these lights on me. Yeah. Um but I you and I have talked about that and I think like the I'm still learning this. Obviously it's very new, but I think the answer is to sit in that discomfort, like knowing that that's gonna happen and to let there be a come down for a few days so that you can experience joy in your normal life. Well that's what we've been talking about. Don't think the answer is so then just get on the next project and the next project and the next which we see so many of our friends do and I have compassion for that. Like I understand it's harder to let there be valleys and mountains. I was talking about I I probably said this the last time this came up on the show, but it's fight c So many things are beautiful fight club, it's gentlemen, they get together. They fighting the soap. I think of Well, I think everybody thinks of Brad Pitt getting up off of the guy and you see his body. Yes. There's that classic. Yes. You know what I'm talking about? Yes. But in Fight Club, they talk about after Fight Club, the volume on everything else in your life gets turned down. Well, this is just so he's in work and it's like it's like yeah, if you're getting punched in the face and punching someone in the face, kinda hard to focus up during church. Yes. So but what you and I experienced I was just talking about this on one of I I've been going on man friend dates and I'm really just getting curious about male friendship. And it's been interesting. And we were talking about that when every day is your birthday. And I love touring. In fact, I I I'm missing touring. Like I took this month off from touring and I just kind of like, oh, I I'm noticing that missing. But like pushing through that boredom, yeah, or that numbness or whatever, and just it doesn't take much. It doesn't take that much. Yeah. It's like one little you realize you're just sitting in a chair, like, what am I doing? Shouldn't I be running for an airport gate? And then you're like, no. Yeah. You just kind of have to like resume control of the aircraft and be like, no, we don't always have to be doing loop-de-loops. Yeah. And we can we can relax a little bit. Absolutely and like sink into it. The other thing I wanted to share goes back to sort of the the strange mindset of acting. I don't think I talked about the Winnie the Pooh shirt on here, did I? No. So one of the things that happened, so the first shoot I was directing, my I was co-directing and acting in it. Um so that one was a uh an insane whirlwind because there is there's like actual footage of me being like okay so we need this person to stand here and then you walk by when she says this and then you come over there okay action. So what are we gonna do? You know, like whatever. You know, just like going into acting. So it was such a like heightened, crazy fugue state. And while we were editing that, um, my my friend who's also my working partner, my writing partner and the co-director of this who was also acting in it, said um, she said something about like when you freak when I like freaked out about the Winnie the Pooh shirt. And so in this I'm wearing a baggy Winnie the Pooh shirt. It's like very unflattering, but it's a f it's like a funny thing to wear because of the context of what this film's about. Sort of accidentally going to a sexy class. Yeah, the the no I the concept is that it's like we think we're going to a yoga class, but it ends up being a tantric sex workshop. So I'm like very much dressed for a yoga class and not sexy at all. And I guess at one point during you gave me a hundred acre wood. Thank you. I actually made that's so funny that you said that. You did. I I I don't think we ended up shooting it, but I like presented that as an alt . That you gave someone a hundred acre. Or that like I like why am I wearing a Winnie the Pooh shirt? That's not gonna give anybody a hundred acre wood. We made the same joke. And then I think we decided not to even shoot it. The difference between me and you, that would have been over black to really emphasize the like voice voiceover only and then cut to you guys walking to class. It would be the joke Oh maybe we'll stuff it in the trailer or something. But um anyway, so I guess there is a moment at the peak of the stress of the day where it really was like we're losing light and we have too much stuff to shoot, um, where I said to Lisa, like, Why did you make me wear a Winnie the Pooh shirt? Everybody else looks so good. Everybody else looks so good. And I didn't remember even feeling that way, let alone saying that. And that like really scared me because I'm I have such a strong filter. Like I am filtering what I say constantly. I I I never am unfiltered. So like even when I drink alcohol, I'm like f still pretty measured in what I say. Full HEPA over here. So I just to have like this moment where I was clearly thinking about thirty other things and like so while my brain was like trying to do that some there was like a moment for this part of me to like get through the guards and say something that I didn't even know I felt. And I felt really like scared and vulnerable, like scared that I didn't remember it, really embarrassed I just don't know what happened out there. I told you how I actually feel about this shirt. Well, I do think this is why people do things, why people play sports, why they have game nights, why they have jobs. Like you have these feelings and you want to let them out. I guess, yeah. And I and yeah, and luckily Lisa is such a good partner in this, and she was like, No, I knew that you were just stressed and feeling like the vulnerability of seeing yourself in playback, basically. Yeah. Um, but yeah, but anyway, so all of and you helped me feel so much better about that where you're like, this is gonna come out in one way or another. Like it's like this tension rising for all of the again, not to overuse the word, but like the vulnerability of it that it will come out in the Well when you told me that story I told you about when we did the true detective sketch. Oh yeah. And Alicia who's a wonderful wardrobe person and a friend of mine got me the wrong jacket. Like I really wanted McConaughey's jacket. And she didn't get it. And by the way, I'm only mentioning Alicia by name because she's incredible. And I wouldn't even count this as a mistake. She couldn't it didn't exist in size andre, the normal guy. Not the giant, but like Andre though. Wow. Andre the Giant would have been easier. You're somewhere in between. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's easy to go full giant. Or peach or medicine. But I I remember having more of a reaction about that, but it's not about the jacket and it's not it's just about how you're feeling. It's it's hard to be in front of the camera. And it's watching watching you do that and figure that out has been uh I didn't Well it's really like working well for our relationship because it helps me like understand and appreciate you on another level, but then also I like need your guidance on this. It's like I feel like our relationships has had different phases where , you know, like when we had Leela, for example, there was like kind of a correction of a we didn't have like a bad power dynamic, but there was a little bit of like a you were supporting us financially and I kinda just came along and like did you know, went like was touring with you. I was like very much in your world. And then we had Leela and I feel like that evened things out a little bit because now I'm like the mother and I know a little bit more, not that much more, but a little bit more about what to do with babies than you do, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there was like sort of this thing that like I did famously clothespin Leela to the clothesline. I just didn't know. You it wasn't that the hell? What the hell? What the hell ? Um no no no. You did great. No, no, I I d I wasn't even feeling sensitive about that. You're absolutely and maybe it was just in my own mind I like started to respect myself more in our in my contributions to our life. But then now there's sort of something nice too about like it's like I need your guidance again. Like I need your I straight up need your advice about this. No, we've talked about this before. Yeah. Uh and I'm I'm happy to talk about it again. Nope. Nope. Don't say another No, it's just nice to feel useful. Mm-hmm. And to just be like that's normal. Yeah. It's it's it really helps me. That's great. All right, enough about that. Isn't it funny that you I know what you're talking about when you're like, I'm talking and it's not interrupting. That's how I feel when I'm peeing at a ballpark. Oh U.h they when have like a trough and you start peeing and you're like, I'm doing it, I'm peeing. Oh yes. Anytime no, don't think about it. Yeah. I felt that I mean I actually am surprised that I didn't feel that way when I was doing the dance, uh, the pole dance, because that's usually how I feel. Like I used when I used to like sing uh in front of audiences at church. Take it easy. What the hell? In front of congregations. Yes, in front of congregations. There's a reason why we give them a new uh different word. They're not an audience. It's a congregation. I would have that exact thing where I'm like, don't think about it. Don't think about the words you're saying. Don't think about I do that. Do you? Like when you're doing stand-up. Uh-huh. Every once in a while. It it's it's rare, but it's when I'm getting bored having done too many shows or the stakes are high and you're filming it. I'll be doing stand-up and I'm like, don't think about how you're doing this. Yes. Don't you're you're you're not dead. You ca I I'm happy to say you can fully be like, wait, what if I forget the next part? Just fucking relax . I mean my acting teacher, because how did I become this person? But she you're becoming the me. She said that she's like, that's when when you know it's going well is when you're not thinking about the words that you're saying. Yeah, precis umundo. Yeah. Precisa mundo. Precisa mundo. Which is the thing, I don't know if I've talked about this, and and it remains to be seen if this'll be what we do. But you know, with our ongoing fascination with Nirvana the Band, the show, and the wonderful Nirvana the Band, the show, the movie, and Matt Johnson and Jay McCarroll in general , they're like out there looking for mistakes and finding finding and stuff. So anyway, I d how much of this did I share? I did those shows in Dallas and we filmed them. You did share. You did share that, yeah. And we're like, what if I did talk about what if this is the special? Pretty I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Okay . Okay. And I know I didn't share this. The night. This is the recipe for me for a great weekend of stand-up comedy. I did a show and no dis respect to this show. I did a benefit show in Houston. Oh yeah. And these people couldn't have been lovelier. Yeah. But it was, you know, it's a sort of a classic setup. It's a ballroom. People are eating their fancy meal . It's to raise funds. And there's like a long video I'm making all these excuses, but there was a fifteen minute video about uh cancer and very sweet. Right before you went up. Oh yeah. Yeah. Whoa. That's just how it is. Yeah. Nobody ever goes like maybe let's have a night to raise funds and not because they're about to ask them to for money. Right. So it's like, hey, give us money. Here's why you should, and by the way, you totally should. And then it's called the brooch foundation. And then it was me . And I'm like, I'm your I'm your prize. Thanks for coming out. Here I am. But I went up and I was like, they wanted me to be clean. And as we've talked about many times before, it's not swearing, it's the ability to say anything I want. Right. And if that's not just about me and my ego and my fun, but like I need to feel like I can say or do whatever I want. And that's what a comedy club is. A comedy club is a very s sacred place. And it's like, here we uh just go on board with whatever the comedian wants. And it's a really wonderful feeling. Talk about permanent birthday. Yeah. But I did this show and it went fine. It went fine, but I felt on a leash the whole time. Then I get And now I'm in a very exciting time where we're going like we're looking at the footage and we're like, could this be the special and some of the footage is like lower res and like, you know, it's like this weird almost like surveillance camera footage. And I'm like, is that a handicap or is that what's gonna make this feel really special. Yeah. I don't know. I know. 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We love DTF St. Louis. It's all about male friendship and intimacy and I I even talked about in therapy today and they were my therapist was like what men find when they become friends we are such a broken gender she was saying s she said sis het so cis gendered heterosexual men have a really hard time. Neurospicy cisheads. Yeah. I'm a cishead. And I'm neurospicy. But it it can be hard, it's illogical to be friends, like it I don't know. Yeah. I don't know what it is. So you go on these dates, and I've been going on man friendship dates. Wait, what was she saying you find though? Oh, that they unlock things in you that you didn't know you had. And I think that's true. Parts of you that your partner can't unlock and you believe that too. I didn't know that. That's pretty interesting. I like it awakens things in you. I really think that's true because that is and I bet even like the thing about the jealousy that we've talked about here, that you can feel jealous of my friendships. Can feel . Can't not feel. Can't not feel. No, it's embarrassing. But I think that it would quelch that if you had even just yeah, quelch. You mean quench or squelch? Squelch. I love both of those. Um because you you know, like you would have have a reference for that type of intimacy that has nothing to do with us or not threatening dialogue. I started my main reason is I want my daughter to see that I have friendships, so she sees like it's fucking weird that that's my number one. But I remember being like, why don't my parents have friends? I kind of felt the same way. My parents had strange relationships. They did have some friends, but they had weird like allies like neighbors it was like very much embedded in the church and so then it was a lot there was no like there was there there wasn't none but there was very little actual transparency and intimacy. Well that's so your dad is a was a pastor and and there's a overlap there . I think pastors I I'm not speaking let's put your dad to one side. I'm just saying pastors are am I in character? Yeah. Is that what we're doing? Yeah. And then comedians, I'm like, am I in character? So I'm trying to go. One of the things I'm doing on my mandates is trying to be as normal as I can be and just be me. I know that sounds very basic. But even I'm being more lit up on this podcast than I than I necessarily was during these man days because I'm like, can I can this just be like a nice place? Just be a nice place where we hang out? But But the way you know that they're dates is like you're not talking normal. Yeah. There's like a little bit more like of a you know what it means? Yeah. And afterwards you go you talk about it exactly the same way. You're like, how did it go? I think we'll do it again. Yeah. Like, it's too early to say. You didn't say. Yeah. I mean, you didn't. With with one of them, I was like, it's too early to say. The one I went on today, I was like, yeah, I liked it. He was interesting. Like just exactly like talking to a girlfriend. But that is. That's that's true . That's how I feel about first hangs with with new friends too, is like we're put putting our best foots forward, best feet best foot respectively forward. And um and we are just being interesting. And so it the test really is like, am I interested in what they are saying? And I always go to like, are they a little bit of a weirdo? Yeah, I need some weirdo. I need a little brokenness. I know a lot of people who are lovely on paper and the things that they say are interesting to me, but they're not freaky enough for this freak. Yeah, I know what you mean. I get overwhelmed if I'm being honest, even in this moment, the idea of having a male friend in this moment. But anytime I have the sorry, go ahead. No. I feel strongly about this. Go ahead. Anytime you are trying to picture a relationship where that there isn't a person in mind, it's just a concept, you never feel up for it. This is the thing. Oh, interesting. I think this is real. This is good. I think like any time anybody's just like, uh this is why, you know, the it's the same with having kids. A second kid especially because you know and look, we're we are right to only have one kid. But I think what happens is you're like, all I can think about is the hard stuff. And then you're like, yeah, but you are in love with that person. So you want to do all of it. Or if you're in a romantic relationship and you're like, you know, everybody I know who's like divorced, and they're like, uh , I'm just have like I have to get to know a whole other person and they are gonna get to know me. And you're like, yeah, but in the scenario when you meet that person, you want to do all of that. Well, that's what I used to say about the baby will wake you up five times, seven times, twelve times a night. And it's like, yeah, but you love them. You love them. You love them so much. Yeah. So I think when you That's really good advice. Yeah. It just thinking about the daunting task of male friendship, the book called Male Friendship. I'm just like, what the fuck what I'm why am I taking a college course? Yeah, it shouldn't feel like a task. It should feel like but it I mean it feels like a task until you meet the right guy. And then this is I love you, man. It is, it really is. I just I can't I can't. We're gonna be in a band . I don't even there's parts of I Love You Man where I'm just like, what the fuck is this? But if you are hanging out with okay, let's They're jamming. Well I guess I won't say any names because it's kind of embarrassing, but there are people whose names I could say you're doing that with who I think you would be thrilled to do that with . I'm just saying Matt Johnson. Yes, if Canadian filmmaker Matt Johnson wanted to uh play Dungeons and Dragons or something. I've got the sense that he's like into hardcore games. Yeah. I would love that. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. So when you have somebody in your life that you don't want to get to know. I know why you backed away from that, but I don't think that's embarrassing. I I I there's certain people that I'm just like it happens with all types, but very taken with. Just very inspired by that's who you go with. That's who you become friends with. People who you're taken with. Well then n no no hope for me. No, you just haven't met them yet. I'm taken with Brab le, yeah, and he lives in I just haven't met Yeah, that'll be me on my deathbed. No, I'm not. I just never met a guy. No. You're putting yourself out there for the first time ever, I think. So that will come back. That will be rewarding. I'll say the main problem with me is, and I maybe we've talked about this, I feel like a 12-sided die, and I don't know which version of me they're gonna text to hang out. And I just I can't like even with you you see all the different sides of me. There's quiet, weird me who and I don't mean weird. I just mean it's not typical for me. Very quiet, very inside, churning on something, processing something. Where am I? We'll call this one where am I? And I know I'm safe to show that to you. There's no guy I know that wants to hang out with where am I I don't know. I think you have friends in your life that you could be in any mood to hang out with. Unfortunately, they're all long distance . I know that brings me back to my whole thing, like why why bother? But they just happen to be all long distance and one of them is moving back. So I think that will solve a lot of it. But yeah, I'm with you. I require that in friendship. Is like what I I every single one of my friends is like this, but my closest friends are the ones that I can like bump into and be like, I am in a mood. I don't want to talk to anybody. Yeah, I had that with Jo Joe DeRozo. I miss Joe. Yeah, long as you also had that with Sam. You ha do have that with Sam. Sam knows all of your moods. You have friends. much of this is reminding you that you do have friends that they just live far away. Well Michael Gunger is is probably I don't want to rank them. I'm just saying I love Michael Gunger to death and they all they're all just gone. I I'm realizing as we're talking, I'm a little depressed today. Like in this moment. Yeah. This is the third thing I've done today. Yeah. And I'm just feeling kind of sad. I'm I'm having that feeling of like, is all of life just going and pouring your oatmeal sack? You have a big sack of oatmeal and you just pour it into different bowls and then at night you go, I hope more oatmeal grows while I sleep. And then you wake up and you're like, oh the oatmeal's seventy percent full and then you go around. That's how an introvert feels, by the way. Yo, you want some oatmeal? Oh, the oatmeal is like your energy. Your energy. Your effort, your anecdotes, your stories, your mood. Any mood is m manageable if you can talk about it. If but like even that takes a little energy to be like, there's how I'm feeling today. But sometimes it just comes out as petulance. This is how I understand. First of all I want to say I know exactly how you feel and I've definitely felt that. I felt that like the last couple days. But um but that's to continue the m o oatmeal metaphor. An introvert feels like that and an extrovert feels like and then everybody else you know has the water to make that oatmeal edible. So I'm pouring in to these bowls my oats, but it's not worth anything unless there's somebody there bringing their ingredient too. Val , I am sad talking about this, not a bad sad . I just can't see it happening. I really and you know stay tuned. Stay tuned. This is not the version of you to ask. You're just tired and you guess. You will I know you will probably later today be in a mood where you're like I have friends I've got my friends like you'll be able to see it I was trying to do a Seinfeld. No, I liked it. I liked it. But also like we can honor the the part of you that's experiencing this right now. I just think like the mind state that you're in right now is coloring it all a little bit. Yeah, no, you're absolutely you're absolutely right. Which is understandable. And I've had that too. And I am an extrovert, and sometimes I'm like, I cannot give myself to Well I see that happening to you too. Unfortunately, living with you has only bolstered my position that friends ain't shit. Not really, not really. But like I do uh you're always wonderful about it and this isn't me uh spilling the beans on you. You can always handle it and you're always there. But I'm like, man . A friend, unfortunately in this low state, just seems like another person that can like that that needs you. But I do think it is not just that. It's like parenting. Again, people who don't have kids and that's totally the a legit thing. I don't need to say that, but people who don't have kids look at people with kids and go, Why on earth would I do that? Yeah. You guys are miserable and all you talk about is how tired and miserable you are. Uh and it's like, yeah, because we're under a love spell that you can't see. So you can only see the external Okay, yeah, that's helpful because what I'm also feeling, and this is good. I I always remember touring with Paris Tich one time the pre-check line was closed, so I had to wait in this long ass line. And she went, This is good. Things shouldn't always go your way. And I was like, I really thought that was so funny and and true. Yeah. And also here we are. I'm feeling a little bit of despair and jealousy that I am watching you like when you and Lisa, and we've talked about this, when you and Lisa are just like giggling and laughing, I fucking I'm I I really am like j really jealous of it. I think. I know. And it comes out as being jealous wanting you for myself. Yeah. But there's also another more interesting level of the jealousy, which is I'm just like, it comes out as like, what are you guys idiots? I know we've talked about this. Yeah. And you know, I don't think either of you are idiots. I'm just saying, like, it's like the bully that's like, Yeah, you fucking dumb. But like really, he's just throwing rocks at a brick wall during recess. Like, this kid needs a fucking friend. Yeah, that's how I feel, and you're rock ing it with so many people. I ta I had a really interesting conversation with my brother, and I'm really working on this, is that like the way we were tuned as children in the environment that we were in , we like we have this very binary, like, is this an attack or is it it's like attack or gift, I guess. That's why one of the ways I love people is people that are very helpful. Like you're very helpful to me. That's not all you are. In fact you're not even the first example. But like Ricky, my director, you're very helpful. That's a quick way to my heart. I edited these clips. I have these ideas. Like what do you think? I'm like, oh my God, this guy's helping me. That's a really clear way to indicate to me that you're not attacking me. Yeah. And the things that my brother and I, we would laugh so hard about this, will perceive as attacks are, are you ready? Almost everything. Yeah. And it's not because things are attacks and it's not because it's intellectualized. It's because of this incredibly hypersensitive alarm system. Mm-hmm that I was my example I w let's say I was talking to a friend about peanut butter and I love peanut butter and he's like what kind of peanut butter do you like? I'll be like the fuck is your problem like I'll I'll go to like what's your angle? Yeah. is Which why I I tend to relax around people like Canadian filmmaker Matt Johnson, because he'll be like, oh Skippy is the best. Skippy's the best. If you get a like a natural creamy Skippy, have you ever had one from Toronto? Oh. Yeah, I know. I'm kind of trying to do them. Yeah. No, it's kind of good. But I I go like, oh, this guy's got takes. Yeah. That's Joe too. DeRosa. Yeah, chunky, make up your mind. You're a bowl of peanuts, be fucking creamy or whatever. And I'd be like, oh, this guy's not attacking me. Yeah. He's just do and then I can Yeah. This is this is interesting. Like I'm remember, and and Michael Gung er is a different kind of friend. I would rant about peanut butter, and he will laugh his ass off. He loves it, yeah. I don't just mean like a polite laugh, I mean he's locked into you. You're the only thing that's happen ing. And he can't believe you have such a strong preference for unsweetened peanut butter. And then somehow it would dovetail into like, isn't it weird that we're in God's mind right now? And I would just love it. So I knew you this is happening. What you prophesied happened. I have friends. Yeah. But man , I don't know how to get these freaks together. They're like fireflies. I know, but this is what I was gonna suggest anyway, is that you pick any one of those, including my brother, by the way, who hasn't been mentioned. I think you could call any of those people today and have a conversation that would just make you feel better about all of this. You just need to call one friend and connect and remember that you can connect and that it feels good to connect and that that exists. Not all, but a lot of my I had that with Mikey. Mikey, what we would do is a bet would write a bet about peanut butter. Yes. Is it butter? Anything you mash up is butter now? Yes. That's right. I bet butter's looking at peanut butter like really? Are you culture? I was churned, baby. You gotta churn the name Butter. Save it for him. Um Just kidding, I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. You knew I would love that. Um I did. But yeah, no, I I I think that you You gotta churn the name butter. Gotta churn the name butter. Butter is churned. Yeah. I don't even remember now. But I do think that just connecting with anyone. Oh well that's what I was going to say is so many of my friends are long distance too. And we do the thing you would never do and you hate, but we send voice memos . But you don't mind phone calls as much as I do. DeRosa and I will uh voice memo and Mikey and I talk almost every day. Yeah. And I don't know why. I I just kind of I I hit the bottom. I had therapy, a podcast, a lunch, yeah, and now this. So yeah. And but this is I think this is worth recording and worth shar ing. There's people out there that when we engage too much , it starts to look like depression. Like you're just sort of like What's the fucking point? I honestly You want some oatmeal? I don't feel that way about you. I understand. But the idea of calling your brother and riffing on Rolo candies right now, it's eg that's exhausting to me. Yeah, yeah. So maybe calling somebody right now isn't the best, but maybe like tomorrow after the restor. After you're rested. Well that's that's the other thing I don't like about myself. Like this is this feeds into this like meaning I don't like this. It's it's all about me. I feel up and now I'm texting. I feel down now I'm ignoring. Like what a fucking shit. I know you're I don't like I don't like being swayed by the weather of my mood. I feel I'm annoyed that out of nowhere I'm texting Pat Walsh and being like, hey uh what a chicken and and like that that must be fucking confusing for him too. This ghoul that lives in the belfry occasionally comes out in a party hat and it's like I feel like partying . I feel like partying. And then as soon as I don't, I'm like, goodbye. I don't even say goodbye. I just turn into bats. I mean, okay. It sucks. Here's what you don't know. It sucks for the ghoul. It sucks for the ghoul too. But I also think two things. One, like you can love that part of yourself, and I bet that's very relatable to all introverts. And then also you just need one friend, which I think you have this friend, but like just one friend that you can say like I am going offline today. Like like Jill and Lisa are my two best friends and and I s literally we say that to each other. We go like I'm zonked out today. I'm not gonna be with my phone. I'm going, I'm going dark. Like, don't, you know, like, or we just say like, I'm tired and I don't want to go to that thing we we planned. And then the other person goes, Yes, good for you. Great job saying what you need. Please rest up always. Like that's what I was going to say is you almost need somebody who is like you in that way. Because then they give you permission to be that way and they will also be that way with you and you'll be thrilled to be the one to say to them, like, no worries, I understand. You know when we listened to Matt Johnson on Stavros's podcast, which I thought was great, Stavros is obviously Greek and he's talking about like the Greek guys that just hang out. Yeah. And they have their coffee and there's like a football game on. I mean soccer game. And they're just hanging out. Yeah . I was like, I get that. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, maybe, maybe I need like a I don't I hate all of this all of these solutions suck but that's kind of what a comedy club is in the green room but I don't want to just keep defending myself and be like I already have it because clearly I'm like, I know there's an aspect of my life that I'm missing out on, but it's not I love you, man. I don't want fucking . Well it'll look different . It'll look different based on your interests. Like that's the thing. It'll be talking about non dualism while you're like swimming in a pool or sitting in a hot tub. Yeah. Which you do have friends that you do that with. Yeah, that's Sam. Exactly. And Gungies. Yeah. And I think one of the reasons why I mythologize Canadian filmmaker Matt Johnson, which by the way everybody see Nirvana, the band, the show, the movie, it's just It's so good. It's just one of the greatest it's like a blood transfusion of hope to me. I know. That I'm like, oh human beings will always be the shit. Ye Yeah. By the can I share one A I thought before we get out of here? I'm all lit up about it. I wrote it in my phone and I don't know if it's true, but I thought it was so funny. I go, AI is Nexium. What I'm saying is human beings, God love us. We don't know when we're being conned. Like we don't know when we can't see the full picture. And when you really look at what gets us and like tricks us and like makes us give up or surrender or join. Remember when Keith Reniery, the the founder of Nexium , um he had to like make he was doing some math equation and he was like and I had to invent a new kind of math. Right. And the guy who made the movie was just like, oh my god a, new kind of math. This guy's out there making new kinds of math. That's AI. Yeah. The AI solved this problem. It made a new kind of math. None of us even know what the fuck new kind of math means. But if you say you're doing it, forget it. So Keith Rinier was confident , fast , and right some of the time. Remember they cured Tourette's Fucking cured Tourette's. Yeah. I'm not saying they cured Tourette's full stop. One guy went to next in with Tourette's after a thirty year battle. They cleared up his Tourette's. Yeah. Who knew you could do that? Right. That's that's what's happening with AI. It's it's it's doing some stuff. It's curing some Tourette's. I'm not saying it's not curing Tourette's. I'm saying we are so quick to give over our allegiance and be like, it is the dawn , it is the end, it is here . Look to fucking Heaven's Gate for more examples of this. Right. If you are confident and fast and right some of the time, people will kill themselves. That's our species. You think it's them? Yeah. The people on the TV ? Motherfucker, it's you. Yeah. And it's happening. It solved the equation. It cured Tourette's. And guess what? It's fucking wrong and there's a sex ring and there's bullshit and there's environment and there's misinformation. It's fucked. But we're such a I always go to the Avengers where Loki is like, you were made to kneel. You were made to kneel. You want a ruler because we do right and you need to remember one of the keys to clarity is going wait I'm in a deeply fallible species yeah my species is the heaven's gate people yeah my species are the Aztec. We have to sacrifice a human once a month, people. We are fucking fucked when it comes to confidence, intelligence, and being right some of the time. You killed that guy and then it rained the next week. Oh, this guy, this is the guy. That's AI. I I I just we need historical context for what's happening. It's it's on one hand the newest thing that's ever happened and on the other hand it's the oldest thing that's happened and will keep happening. That's so fascinating. We do want a leader because like you know, and I'm whatever, I'm just gonna go with this, but like we created God. That's right. We created an idea of God and the gods. Because God knows and that's the thing that we should be Keith knows bowing down to AI knows, Elon knows, Zuckerberg knows. And also the thing that makes us fallible is our openness. It's like something that's beautiful and unique about us. So these things are sinister in taking advantage of the most tender , beautiful human qual ity. Every single one of them is hardwired to ma and they I clear I cured Tourette's Well let's look the other way on these tattoos. Yeah, totally. The fucking day data centers are the tattoos. We're in Nexi um. Mm-hmm. That's it. And I'm saying that in a huge relief. Relief . Yeah. I'm saying that to give you hope. To say like this is happening. Yeah. It's always happened. It's always happened. It will always be happening. It's just a yeah, it's just a different name to the same pattern that repeats itself. And all we have to do is not join the goals. That's right. It's alchemy. I know I already mentioned medieval mindset. I I found this YouTube channel that is great. And uh after I f I found it from after school, which is another great YouTube channel. And they were talking about um he's making all these historical arguments like there's always been we will it w when we think of alchemy we think we're gonna turn lead into gold. But they were also saying we'll cure every disease , we'll make you wealthy, we'll make you healthy. These are just the fucking things. And there's a corporation chur bleeding money and needing more, more intel, more money, more investors, all this stuff. And they're going, Don't worry, we're gonna cure every disease. And look, maybe they will . All I'm saying is they're in a lineage, they're in a long ass line of m pharaohs, magicians, and the alchemists and the fucking everybody's and it's not new and there's a great I'm so 47, but there's a great comfort in going, I am a human being in a context that is deep. It is deep. It is as old as fucking apples that somebody wicked smat is gonna be like, I can cure all your diseases, just give me all your money. And look the other way while I do whatever the fuck I want. That's everybody. That's everybody. And and Tourette. It's as old as apples. And it's and that and and don't forget the Tourette's part.