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Philippe, Duc d’Orléans: in the shadow of the Sun King
In this episode of You’re Dead to Me, host Greg Jenner travels to the opulent world of 17th-century France to uncover the life of Philippe, Duc d’Orléans. Joined by historian Dr. Jonathan Spangler and comedian Tom Allen, the discussion explores what it meant to be the younger brother of the legendary Sun King, Louis XIV. Philippe lived in his brother’s shadow, navigating the suffocating expectations of the French court while cultivating a reputation for scandal and flair. From his military ambitions and complex personal life—including his marriage to Liselotte and his prominent same-sex relationships—to his secret talent for savvy financial management, listeners discover a man of fascinating contradictions. This engaging episode delves into the pressures placed on royal siblings and offers a vibrant look at the glamour, gossip, and queer history hidden within the halls of Versailles.
Updated Mar 29, 2026
About This Episode
Greg Jenner is joined in 17th-century France by Dr Jonathan Spangler and comedian Tom Allen to learn all about Philippe, Duc d’Orléans, Louis XIV’s younger brother. King Louis XIV is one of the most famous monarchs in French history: the man who built and presided over the glittering court at Versailles, established himself as an absolute ruler, and whose 72-year reign is still the longest in European history. But what about his younger brother, Philippe? Who was the man who grew up and lived in the shadow of the Sun King? Raised to defer to his brother at all costs, his promising military career was cut short when it seemed like he might outshine Louis. When all eyes were on him as heir to the throne, he would wear dresses to provoke shock at courtly balls. He balanced his marriage to his witty German wife, Liselotte, with a decades-long relationship with his aristocratic male lover, the Chevalier de Lorraine – and other men of the court. And he maintained an image as a louche and irresponsible courtier while increasing his personal wealth through clever financial management. This episode explores the complexities and contradictions of Philippe’s life, and examines the difficult position of second sons in royal history.
If you’re a fan of royal sibling rivalries, the gossip and glamour of the French court, and queer history, you’ll love our episode on Philippe, Duc d’Orléans.
If you want more fascinating French royals, listen to our episodes on Catherine de Medici and Marie Antoinette. And for more LGBTQ+ history, check out our episodes on heretical lesbian nun Benedetta Carlini and the Bloomsbury Group.
You’re Dead To Me is the comedy podcast that takes history seriously. Every episode, Greg Jenner brings together the best names in history and comedy to learn and laugh about the past.
Hosted by: Greg Jenner Research by: Emma Mitchell Written by: Dr Emmie Rose Price-Goodfellow, Dr Emma Nagouse, and Greg Jenner Produced by: Dr Emmie Rose Price-Goodfellow and Greg Jenner Audio Producer: Steve Hankey Production Coordinator: Gill Huggett Senior Producer: Dr Emma Nagouse Executive Editor: Philip Sellars
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