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Crying in Baseball with Julie Kliegman

Jun 9, 20261h 25m
Summary

In this episode of You’re Wrong About, the hosts are joined by author Julie Kliegman to explore the history of women in professional baseball. The conversation centers on the realities behind the famous 1992 film A League of Their Own, which depicted the All-American Girls Professional Baseball League. While the film is a beloved touchstone, Kliegman highlights the discrepancies between the movie’s Hollywood narrative and the historical truth, including the league’s strict enforcement of femininity—such as requiring players to attend charm school and wear skirts—to ensure the public remained comfortable. The discussion delves into the systemic policing of women’s bodies in sports, noting how these regulations have historically aimed to undermine female athleticism and suppress the presence of queer women in the game. Beyond the AAGPBL, the hosts touch upon the lesser-known contributions of women in the Negro Leagues, such as Toni Stone, and the ongoing challenges surrounding gender roles and inclusivity in modern athletics. Ultimately, the episode serves as an engaging critique of how cultural narratives—both in film and in social media—can simplify the complex, often arduous history of women striving for legitimacy and community in sports.

Updated Jun 9, 2026

About This Episode

Could there be a little crying in baseball as a treat? Sports correspondent Julie Kliegman is here to tell Sarah about the history of women’s baseball and softball and to finally teach her the rules of the game. From the days when women played alongside men, to the first women’s team in the 1940s, to the sexist rules placed on their teams, and the impressive modern players that are changing the game, they discuss the past and present through the lens of the 1992 film A League of Their Own. Together they try to follow the sport around what Sarah calls the Crazy Straw of Progress and around a loving baseball diamond that has long led the players home. Digressions include the imaginary Supreme Court case Woman v. Horse, Fried Green Tomatoes, and gym parachute week.

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Edited + Produced by Miranda Zickler:
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