Reflecting On Careers And Future Possibilities

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Welcome to our podcast. The H hot Dg is a Sanders to S showhd. I say upsetting things. I'm your host, Josh Sherr. I've said so many upsetting things in the past that will be proven demonstrably false. And I'm Nicole andi. And I did that thing where I went on a little bit of a rant and said some insane hyperbolic things in a video. Why did you do that? Well I'll tell you exactly why. So we was doing a video where we made mac and cheese from the dollar store from dollar Dollars or the Dollar tree Weve been mac cheese from Dollar Tree and Mac and Cheese from Whole Foods ingredients. and we tried to buy up as many different chees from the Dollar tree as we could. And so we bought, you know Cheddar and Jack and Colby and Colby, Jack. And we're like, we're doing a four cheese macaroni and cheese. All right. But then as I was making this, I realized that adding all four of those cheeses together does not change the taste of the cheese If you add Cheddar and Monerey Jack and Colby Jack and Colby, One, the Colby and the Jack, That's just two cheeses right there. But then Monterey Jack and Colby mixed with cheddar Oh we added American too, but to get the sodium citrate the chemical in there All of that sort of just amounts to a mild cheddar Right? So so that got me thinking. that got me thinking All these cheeses, your Colby', your Jacks, your mild cheddarars and I'm talking about like your sort of grocery store versions of that. notot going to Cabot, Vermont Licester England and getting a cloth bound cheddar. No, no, no. I'm talking about your like average run of the mill weekday sandwich sliced cheese. Sargento if Sargento. and we actually have some here. This is a mixture of Sargento, tilamook and Lucerne and then I think even store brand, depending on what was on sale.ight. But I started thinking about how many of those cheeses taste the same And so you can get like a mild provolone in that sliced format. and that don't taste like the provvolone Picante from an Italian deli, but it tastes. But it tastes so similar to your average mild cheddar or Monterey Jack. And that got me thinking, that got me thinking in crazy hyperbolic terms All cheese tastes the same. I'm not talking about every single cheese in the world. No, no, and I'll get to my actual theory after I prove it to you. Okay. Because right here, Nicole, we have eleven different cheeses. Do we have eleven? one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine, ten, eleven, You're so good at count me. You' better than I am. I have math anxiety. I love that youed I immediately thought I was lying though. No I went to the store to buy these eleven cheeses. I can probably name them off rip. we have Mozzarella, we have Provolone, we have Mild yellow cheddar and medium white cheddar, mayaybe those are flipped. We have Monterey Jack, we have Havardi, we have Munster. I got a couple wild cards in there. We have Berquesa. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited Which is so popular from the TikTok, but I'm like that kind of tastes the same. And then we have a Mexican manancheo just to see if like That even can be confused for the other chees. you're missing Oh and Colby Jack. Yes and Colby Jack. If I were to be any cheese, I would be Colby Jack because I'm a Gemini. It's a mix of cheeses I'd be smoked haabanero Gda because I I and Vaguely Dutch looking and often something C't find nowhere. They had This is the most I've like explored the cheese section a lot. That with the cheesemonger? I saw a little smoked Gudda haavanero thing in there and that looks really fun. I was talking to the cheesemonger about their buterquesa shortage because all the kids been buying from TiTok. We did a TikTok video where I shoped Butcher Kza into a sweet potato and they legit had trouble stocking Buterza Do you want me to wear a blindfold now? Do you think I think you should go first. I think you should try all these cheeses Blindfolded.. And then we see how many you can get right. How confident are you? Do Do you resonate with talking about All day every day. It's like my job, mother E. L do you know, I know people who are like, ooh, I love a turkey sandwich, but it's gotta be Mster. And I'm like, can you tell the difference between monster and all of the otherer chees out there? Can I tell you why I love Mster cheese, but I love all these equally. I don't love them equally. The monster has a certain like like nutty funk and a creamy texture that only monster can have. Sure, man. Okaykay, let me know when you're gonna feed me. Okay, I'm putting my blindfold on just to have as well. No know, and this doesn't work. You're using you're using something Logan, can you record results Yes. All right, Nico, first che' coming in. Cole is eating is eating the cheese, kindind of like how a camel intakes Vvegetables, what are you tasting My problem is My problem is I consider myself to be a super taster. Yes. I have a really Knowledgeable food brain. and a really knowledgeable mouth. But when my eyes are closed, it's really hard. I'm gonna say that That's like who're using the phrase tastes the same Okay, I'm mushing That was either Provolone or Colby Jack. Either Provolone or Colby Dack. Do you want to lock in answer Mm, probablyon Provalon So I tell Nical if she was right or wr Nicole, that was not proonged. Okay, don't tell me what it was. Notm gonna tell what it was. N not going gonna tell you what it was. Next cheap. Okay. Next one, nexte one, next one Okay we're coming in Wow. theseese are pretty big slices that you sliced them Cld is eating Oh, what was that Geez. This' so mild But it has an aftertaste Has a nutty aftertaste? Nuttiness. What cheese do you associate with nuttiness? Is there Yarlsburg here? No, there's no, dude I almost about Yarlsburg becauseuse I love Yarlbg. I love Yarlsburg. No one ever talks about Yarlsbg. My dad loved Yarlsburg. Was that like a dad era cheese? Yes, my dad also loves Yarlsbg. Dude bring back Yarlsburg. It's a can you google wor whered Yarlbberg is from? I feel it's Norwegian nd'sallyl Wh Do you go toarlbberg every weekend But What did you just feed me? White cheddar It was developed in the fifties at the agricultural University of Norway. It's a Norwegian cheese, yeah, Yaralllsberurg Rrips. So I'm going to guess that that was some sort of cheddar. I'm gonna go with mild white cheddar Mild white chedar You are incorrect. Oh my gosh, I'm so bad at this next She going coming in, coming in There she goes. It's plotishing Plastocine. The other interesting thing to talk about Any anythingthing else Smotzrella and Nicole, you are incorrect. Oh my God, why am I so confident? Because these are the same. But it's funny when you say that's plasticine because like I've had the good version of that cheese And it's no one would ever call it blastocine, right? It's like really delightful You know what I mean? It's like some of them are even quite crystalline, depending on the age. But when you win all Chedar, it's cheddar. When you say Also not Crystalline cheese. I got another one coming for you call This is for it I'm so excited to try this Cole is eating Sarrella See if you can get one right Come m we'll go deep into that mind palace here is use that super taster. sm I smoke too many cigarettes to be a super taster I can super taste a camel crush. Oh my gosh, donon't get me on cam. They're illegal now. They're illegal. Don't ask me out right now Don't modorate that That is incorrect. to incorrect. I' gott be. I'm gonna keep I'm you going to run through all of these? You know whatens until she gets one? Yeah ye, yeah, that's Okaykay I'm gonna be. Okay, o coming in. this one I'm curious about P is eating Bhta Kza Butter. She got one. she got one. She got one. We'll see if can keep the street going. keep the street going.. Well gave it away, is it a texture or a taste both in. I'm sorry. You think of yet. Monster. It is monster. It is monster. Okay, okay, okay. She's starting she's starting to really to really head a stride. I have nothing else going on in my life, other eating cheese and being blindfolded. One more, one more, one more is eating Monttery Jack That's Monterey Jack. Holy smoke, She's correct. She's corct.'s on t tear. She's on a teer. Give me one more C come more., want one more. This snake, now we're starting to disprove theory a little bit. was eating ofart Cobby Jack M no, that one was Fvardi You've eaten most of the cheesus to takeick up your blindfoldb? Yeah, take it off That was so much fun Can I do that every day of my life? Yeah, we're happy to do that. Logan, how how many in a row did she get wrong? She got four wrong four wrong in a row, then three right, then one wrong A I wrong? But that said, like You actually did better than I thought you would I thought I thought it would be harder because you have eleven cheeses here. I mean effectively you have a one and eleven shot. If my thesis is correct. If my hypothesis is correct, you would get an average of nine percent correct. In instead you're probably going to be batten about like forty forty sixty on there. Okay. whichich is pretty good. Was it easier or harder than you thought it would be? Harder. Well, you want to know what it is. All these cheese are processed. Yeah, exactly. So they are all going through a similar process of being cooked down and like being sliced and like cooling at a similar temperature So to be frank, all cheese does taste the same whenever you're doing the same thing to it. Yeah. Of course, yeah. The thing the cheese that I was talking about, which is like the aged one being very crystally and delicious is Gda I ate Gudda. You ate y yeah, onene of them was a sliced. they were sliced Gooda, it looks like the color of ake Like you said, it's probably that's dyied, right? Wh where a traditional gudda isn't dyed, but it's yellow because of the diet of the cows, I believe. Right, rightight. You know, a very grass rich diet like carry Gold butter going to yield yellowower cheese. Cheddar straight up died usinginado or paprika extractive But so many of these like are you're kind of flattening them to like be in a shelf stable deli aisle, You know what I mean Maybe you're right. Maybe Maybe all cheese does taste the same. Also it all tastes roughly the same because like its the same the same chemical process, right? You know, not even to make sliced cheese, but just cheese in general, you're dealing with like fat structures and glutamic acid and all this. And I still love I love the world of cheese. I you know remember going to's connected to culture. I remember going to Sardinia and eating a bunch of different ages of Pecorino sardo. And then the woman who, you know, she was a vintoner and then her brother raised sheep to like a slaughterer for meat and her other brother raised sheep for milk and made the cheese and hearing her talking crap about how like Oh, Pecarino Romano is BS because the Romans hate farming industry near their town. so they exported it allc to Sardinia but Pcarino sardo's better anyways I love that kind of stuff But then yeah, so many of these chees, you know This the same. So you put on a sandwich B on a sandwich It's honey ham You tast the difference between mustroom Vardi when we got the honey ham? I'll say this. There is like Definite flavors that once the cheese dissipates stays in your mouth. Yeah. Like I just say the menchego and that very obviously has that like sheepy goaty flavor Yeah once you swallow it. But something like a Monterey jack or even a monster, it just dissipates so quickly. you don't remember what it tastes like Yeah. They're fine utility chees, you know what I mean And again, when you talked about site, like, yeah, if you see Colby Jack on a sandwich, A grilled cheese and Coee jack. Wow. You're about to year for a treat. You're in for a treat You know you're probably out at anirbn,' probably on vacation, you're making funnal hamingill cheesees. That's so funny. Is that like an anecdotal?ike a little bit yeah. You know, but like all these things are kind of different that way. Can I take the test? Sure. 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Okay, more cheese. Okay. You just stay in that position for me, thank you. Don't move. You move Badman will come. I made time changer Josh is eating Mild Cheddar So I was also eating Freaking c. Nice smackmar. It tastes. Cheddy, but cheddy is the flavor of cheese becauseuse I grew up you as an American, you grew up on a lot of on a lot of cheddar. U You know what I mean? I do know what you mean. so what is I'm saying that's medium white cheddar You are incorrect. Rats. That's right. I'm gonna go go rat eating cheese. am Mark. I'm going gonna eat this one with you. Josh is eating provolone you know she want another plastic you. L grassy, this one has the sharpness of a nightallion. All right. I'm going to say this one's Bravolane Josh, you're correct. Hey Okay, we got that one was a little noticeably different in a way that I really I do enjoy Josh is eating Munster. meltss nice Thank God for that That's good at That's howa. Yeah, one hundred percent Lock it in. You are incorrect here that wasn't Guda No, you get here I't the get the Ga thet of here. That wasn't Gudda. That wasn't Guda I don't believe you. Well, you should believe me because I'm a very honest person. That's great. I only lie when it's important. I tasted smoke. Why would I lie right now? I lie at least a dozen times every day I think that's a lie. I don't think George lies that much. I think he's just lying about lying, which is a lie. Josh is eating Kavorni That one's Mster You're incorrect So I guess maybe you're right. M cheese. Okay, I have nothing else guess. Maybe I smoke too many camel crushes. I can't taste cheese no moreore. Josh, I smoke too many camel crushes andm Colby's always impressed whenever I tell him all the things I can taste in his food. He goes, Yeahah And I'm like Colby Love you Dosh is eating mozzarella But a K. So wrong. Like embarrassingly wrong. What was that one? That one was whole milk mozzlla. Yeah, don't taste the same b give me some butter c.. You're such a TikTok kid The Butudr Kaiza is delicious. Why can't I say it right This is like a really sat charcuterie board. This is like a depressing charcuterie board How where are you be able to get so many correct? They all taste the same. I'm a super taster. Ka. I'm a super duper taster. It was one that I thought was good at. that was Mexican Manjego So really? Yeah And then you thought the the Havardi was Minster Yeah, Hard mon are such they're lateral. They're cousins. Yeah Wow I want to drop You wantna draw? I want to draw. I love when you draw Can you also drawic booty penguin for everybody? Yeah Yeah, of course not yet. So so so so so what I'm talking about, when I'm talking about all cheese. Oh I need a cleanser. This guy has a board What am I? A Dmitri Martin comedy special from two thousand eight, high five Hi, V Nicole.om What' that joke yad Everyone LOL, sometimes people LMAO, but me I LQT MS laugh quietly to myself. My favorite is the God must have named oranges before he named carrots. G got to oranges as well. Well, of course, these are orange to call them oranges Got to carots one. A shit. I don't know, long poinies. I love Dmitri Martin. What's he doing So is that cute little haircut? went to I went to a party wearing a leather jacket and people thought I was cool. Then I went to a party wearing a leather vest and people thought I was uncool then I figured out the key to being cool His leather sleeves He was great for his time. I love to meet J Martin. You you make that great woodstock movie? Okay So we need to talk about This cheese bell curve. Oh my God, he's making a graph Cheese bell curve. Over here, we have We have a hard and weird. Mhm. Sounds like my ex husband Just kidding. I ain't got one of those. Over here We have soft and weird Sounds like my ex wife. Here we have chheewy and normal. Thatewyone of those either. Cheewy and normal? Yeah donon't have a comp for that one. Hard and weird cheeses on the fart like over On the farthest end of the spectrum, Nicole, what's the hardest weirdest cheese you can think of Uh Ricasalata That's pretty that's pretty normal. I'm talking like like weird or weirdest cheese you're he. Oh, casum Marzu. Casum Marzu, well, that's let's go over soft and weird because casumarzu it's soft that all the magaz stuff in there. soft. Casumarzu soft, isn't it? Is it soft? That was soft. I did not know.y anyways, is What is your hardest weirdest cheese? Serbian donkey cheese, pula Oh because like this is if we're talking about the very end of cheese, this is the very end of the cheese spectrum of hard and weird because that is cheese You got a little puck of Serbian donkey cheese. Th then you know what I don't like about you? That one camel cheese I ate that one time, that one bedouin camel cheese. No you know what I don't like about you? hold on.. You would like to consider cream cheese to be cheese and that pisses me off. Yeah It's in the name. What It's like it's like saying that Skir or Lebne is cheese. Great. so I'm so glad you asked. So we're gonna go ahead and I didn't ask said. We're gonna put Skir over on the far end of soft weird Because because this is when you speak in absolutes, like all cheese tastes the same. I need I'm talking hyperbolically. So I need to explain what I actually mean when I mean all cheese because I don't mean the skiers or the Lb Nz or even hay over here. cheese? Let's put a puny. Hey, what about for hay What about farmer chees? I Let's put far you know, let's even put Yetost. What about Brunost? Brunost and Yetost, I think are the same thing. Farmers, you know, any kind of thing like that. Got a peneer over here. let's say like a pecarine So so let's say this right here Pard and weird, soft and weird. and these account for maybe sixty percent of the cheeses What I'm interested in Is this forty percent in the middle of what I'm calling chewy and normal Jesus And all of these taste the same Roughly. We just proved that to me they do, but mostly because I don't think I'm a very good taster. Nicole, you had more success. Hey, yeah I had good success But over here, you have things like cheddar you have Monterey Jack. You know what? we didn't even get into, but I think this sort of proves the case. is the cheese that you and I grew up on. What's the cheese that was most often in your house growing up on? You take little shreds. Mexican Mexican blend. What the hell is aeican blend cheese Mexican blend. You know what it is? It's three cheeses with a little bit of chili powder on top I don't even think it dude. I don't think it I don't think there's any chil in. almost convinced that I I don't think can you Can you look up what? Oh, I think I think you're right. The craft like fininely shredded one grew up with had the finally Yeah, ye yeah. There was some sort of chili in it. But now I don't think the kids do that. Like look up what's in Tillimook's Mexican for cheese blend because that's what I buy for Julia every week Let's put Haavardi in here Let's put even a normal proolone Probleone has that, like Stankough. On one that I was able to guess right was Provolo. That one had like an odd smoke Cby I I got Mster C be Jack Montereayjack Jack esada, queso quesada. eso quesada. Qeso Menonita Men Meneta. Yeah. Are you say Monite cheese Do you know what I'm talking about? No. ' made by Menonites. In Mexico? Clolo K Meos was Menanitas So this over here is what I believe to be your sort of bell curve of cheeses and ones that all taste the same versus ones that don't But then I'd argue that there's a little satellite out here That is your Swiss family of cheeses. Oh these are nut these are nutty more nutty than they are salty. And within that, I think you have gruyere. Yeah have Yarlberg. Mentall, I'd say Yarlsberurg. Wait, no, Swiss. The reason why Swiss is Swiss is because of the bacteria that's used to make those little oxygen holes Yeah. What do you mean What is Swiss cheese doesn't exist Swiss cheese is like an American thing. Havardready has holes. Swiss Gruiere Emental like these are actual Swiss cheeses. Guryir does not have little holes in it But there's no such as thing swiss cheese in Switzerland Right? What are you talking about? You go to Switzerland and you say give me some Swiss cheese, they'll say, what kind of cheese do you want Do you want something like Emental? Do you want something like Guere? Do you want something like our manyi small bag? Eent So Ementol is no, no, Swiss cheese in America is derivative of Ementol. I believe so. I believe that' the case These cheeses are all the way that they are with little holes in them because of the bacteria that is introduced. I did not know that If you're gonna to say all cheese say the same, you gotta know details. Where's blue cheese in here, huh? Blue cheese? There's so much penicillin in blue cheese. They put they put lactobicillins I'm saying this is penicillin in there or something Blue is under the category of soft and weird. because those don' taste the same Okay you forward now. That's okay. Well, you did a lot of scribble scrapp. did a lot scribble scrappble. If you want to add to the board, becausecause they're certainly like When I'm talking about these chewy normal cheeses, I think all of these could be substituted in a sandwich with roughly eighty five to ninety percent efficacy. God, your handwriting is atrocious. It' just I was trying to claimrocious. I have pretty good handwriting for a man. I have the same handwriting as it wass disgusting I think you could exchange those cheeses in the middle with eighty five percent to ninety percent satisfaction rate Somebody goes, I want a ham sandwich with cheddar And you go, we don' only have Monttery Jack. I think they're going to be at least eighty five percent happy Unless they're expecting like a great cheddar. You know what I mean? Yeah, okay. So that's what I think here. And then here you have those relationships with stuff like if you were to replace Lebno akar. eighty five percent Hm you're going to replace Rogue four with or Gorgonzilla with Stilton. eighty five percent. You know what I mean? Swiss, Guere Eentle,allsbg you have these sort of clusters of cheese. I think you can replace a pecorino with a Parmesan with an asciiago with a Cotilla. Yeah. hell. Oh no, you can't do that. Coti. Yes, you can. Cotilla iss just Mexican Parmesan. No, it's not. that's so disrespectful to Cotillja cheese to just call it Mexican Parmesan. The Parmesan is Italian Cotilla. Okay, thank you. You're welcome. G So you're saying. So you're saying everybody's living here But I'm saying a vast majority of cheeses especially carried out at an American grocery store. So you're saying the average American grocery store experience is all in the middle here? Illusion of choice. So people are just living in the middle here is what you're trying to say So you want people to stay here? or do you want people to be on the outskirts more? I don't know what I what I want I feel like I'm Chet Hanks doing an impression of Heath Ledger's The Joker on Zway You know Dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do if I got it. So this is so this is important to bring bring up Um a whyly. Why is this Oh, o, shoot Why do we have to do a whole podcast about this? I didn't really think about the why. I'm not yllking youreng I'm just trying to find out how a big old doggin works, mister. Let's think about this. I still I heard yelling. I start yelling. Yeah, You start there. You started ye Oh cheese. And did you ever stop would just stop? Well, well, but then we put it on the internet. Yeah. And I'll tell you what happens. We shoot an episode God knows what I say. I don't know. I don't know' the fun of it. I know. then and then sccreaming into the Eether, but the Eether happens to respond back in in terms of views and comments negative. I don't remember saying that at all. If we didn't Oh, if we didn't record a video and publish that I would have completely forgotten Not only that, if we didn't if Matt didn't just cut it down into a YouTube short And post that, I would have still forgotten what I said because it's in the middle of a forty minute episode.. They post the YouTube show and then a bunch people were saying that I was either right or wrong And so I said, well, let's go test this Well we tested it and we found out that my batting average of my taste buds is really high. and yours are big stinky poopoo. Stinky poopoo sticky poo, notot like sticky poop like a good cheese just styoo it's because of your cigarette. Which is funny because we probably had similar no you'd probably smoked a lot more than dinner issues. Yeah. And yeah. So what I've learned today is that America lives in the middle. whatever but what Americans should do is venture out, eat something hard and weird. Eat something soft and weird. Eat something with holes in it. grow up C beal No. I'mll All right, Nicole, we've heard what you and I have heard Now it's time to find out what other w is ring at there universverse. T for a segment call opinions are like casseres. God Well, of course it's about that time we got to hear what other people say. Yeah Let's do it. Hey Josha, Nicole. are calling in coming off of your Costco versus Sams Club episode. as a Costco employee, I thought you guys might appreciate fun facts about the food court, specifically the pizza. So each pepperoni pizza has exactly sixty pepperonis on it. Wow when they're placed on the pizza They're placed in sixix even triangle patterns. Okay makeake sure everything is uniform. Wow. And the reason why the cheese pizza tastes so good is because there's a pound and a half of cheese on each That's pizz. twenty four ouns. It really measured out. That's why it tastes so delicious. none of this is a secret because you can see straight into the food court where the pizzas are being made. we even have posters up showing you how to make it. so anybody can look at this time I'm not giving away any trade secrets. Good for you. my opinion is that all beef hot dogs All bef hot dogs are not hot dogs. They're sausage. And I understand that categorically, hot dogs are sausages. But sausages are not hot dogs. And let me tell you where this stems from. So something I noticed is my fiance and his best friend, my fiancee has a habit of calling all sausages brotz. It could be a hot dog, hotlink, one of the younger everg's papple sausages But he calls everything a broth. To him, it's a brrooth. And similarly, his best friend calls everything a hot dog. And it's important to me to make that distinction. So to these sausages is like the umbrella term for the tubes of meat and it can come in various forms, but Under that umbrella, I feel like a hot dog should be a more distinct descriptor. really I really enjoy what they're saying. I'm really curious. didid they mention where they they said it' their boyfriend and the boyfriend's best friend? Fiance and fiance best Fiance. sorry, someone got a ring. But I am curious where they're from. 'cause somebody referr to it exclusively as a Bat that reads like very midwest to me. Okay. I didn't realize how popular Bats were until I went to Wisconsin. And it's like everywhere has a brat and they're very proud of their BratTs. and I love a brat. What defines a Bat Well, we're about to get into what defines any sausage, right A sausage is just meat inside of a casing. Sure, but like what defines individual sausages, right? So like what is the difference between a bght versst and a knock st? I couldn't tell I couldn't tell you off rip, but like So I've had Bratworse like American Bratworst, like a Johnonville brand Bratworse. Yeah, cooked in beer with onions. So good. Yum. But like to me, at Bratworst, it's got a very specific spicing battern and couldn't tell you what it is, may It's white, right? Brots are white? Vice versus is white. Bratworst to me, should be a paler Vice is white. Vice is white But like to me like a brra worst has to do with the grind and then the spicing pattern. And then sometimes that has to do with like what fillers are in there. Like you get like bangers that have like a majority, you know, other fillerat or like fat. Exactly something it's binded with fat and whatever. And so to me, a brra is like a coarse ground sausage that is spiced with I don't know, maybe the corier or mustard seed, whatever it actually is in Bratworse, In't tell you offhand. That's what makes it a sausage. An Italian sausage, like the Link Fennel seed is the thing that we like really associate with that flavor. Sure. Hot dogs, I don't think it has to do with the animal that's in it. Has to do with how smooth the paste is. How smooth the paste is now mostultified it is becausecause to me a Brot worst I don't think this holds up in the German nomenclature because I think some brots do have a finer grind Yeah L if you eat a sausage and the texture is almost kind of like ground hamburger meat. insside of it, that's what we call like a coser grind. The verse is something like a hot dog where like when you see a brot being made, it looks like ground meat being shoved into a two. When you see a hot dog being made, I mean that that looks like it's a perfectly smooth paste. It's more like a meat smoothie I think the colloquial, let's go get a blink. Like I always say, let's go get a hot dog. even if I'm gonna to go get a sausage. Like I'm just gonna say let's go get hot dogs. Like that's just the general term for tube mee. Wait. so you're saying but I never actually go out for sausages, but I do go out for hot dogs. To me, they're so different Like if I say like, o, let's go out for sausages, I'm going to probably V Verku. Yeah. or yeah, me too, which is' great sausage beer garden in L.A. But I'm gonna say let's go get hot dogs. No way. you're going to to a German Beer Garden. I'm saying let's get hot dogs. Yeah, I've also been, can I tell you something? I've also been to Octoberfest in Munich And I said, okay, let's go e hot dogs, everybody. But like we know that that means all tube shaped sausage like items. Interesting. It's just something that I was grown and I was raised with eating hot dogs more so than any other tube meats.. So To me, though, there there's a class difference. And this is paint with a broad brush but this is what I've internalized to kid. Check this out I'm serious, poor people e hot dogs, rich people eat sausages. That's what I internalize as a kid. That's so. That's what I internalize as a kid. And so for me sausages are aspirational. saausages are white color. This is crazy. and hot dogs are blue color. So if I say I'm going out for hot dogs, that means I'm gonna go fresh off of eating Wienerchnitzel chili dogs and drinking a beer outside with Patrick McDonald, goo check out the podcast Eating hot dogs is a street event like that. Like you get, you know, a street dog in LA outside of a state center. Interesting. You go to Larry's Chili doogs in Berbank. Great Chili dogs at Larry's. You go to Cupid, something like that, but a sausage, I'm having like a cultural experience Wow, I guess it's because in my house we never had sausages growing up. We just had hot dogs. Why do we have hot dogs? Because Hebrew National. So I also grew up in Hebrew National. my grandma, which is interesting called them sausages. And I also had to tell her granny, these are not sausages. These are hot dogs. Wow, this is so interesting. Fascinating. Fascinating. But as far as The all be I would say all beef makes a hot dog more of a hot dog than any other grind of meat. because there's very few sausages out there are all beef. Hotlinks can be like a Texas hotlink, I think.'re right. It is strange to find an all beef sausage. But like an all beef hot dog to me, that's the archetypical hot dog But South African S African Bavashh. Bavash Bavash. is beef, right? Isn't it? Isn't like ninety five percent Lean beef. Yeah, it's gott to be at least ninety ten. somethingomet something crazy. I think it is beef. Do they reuse Sly they make game Borovash? I don't, right? An amount of Pblem is I don't find myself being as much of a sausage historian as I want to, and that's sad. Like there's such a wonderful wild world of sausages that like we should research the way thatarch we research cheeses and wines and other fine goods. saausages deserve their like love I agree. I consider myself an amateur sausage historian. Really? I don't. And I I love sausages. I think it's such a fascinating The best place to learn is to go to that old sausage factory in Glendale and just sit there for like ten, fifteen minutes and just learn about all the sausages So I think I got to do that because what a wonderful world of sausage. I think a hot dog is defined by its smoothness of grind and its spicing pattern and the thickness gotot to be in like a natural what casing is it? Well, yout know a lot of hot dogs now if they don't have a natural casing they are cased in some sort of like, biodegradable whatever. Re It's like a vegetable, glycerin something or something. Excuse me, but like Because Merz Merguez sausage, right is in a lamb casing And that's a very thin, That's why marguette sausages tend to be thin like that. I love marguette sauage. You get like a beef bung casing, those are giant. The sausage, Okaykay here I'm on standandard broot shape is like an intestine. what is a hot dog? And why is it straight? Okay, the term hot dog can be just okay the sausage used is a weiener or a Frankfurter That just means someone from Frankfurt or someone from Vienna. Okay, but there's Vienna sausages, not the ones that we know, not the canned stuff and there's Frankfurt or Frankfur' too. So I think those two again, I need to do my research. What am I doing something wrong? No, I'm saying what you'reading is is BS I'm saying you're reading BS. It's Wikipedia, BS.ically hot dogs, whether use Frankfurder and Wiener, despite the fact that they mean people from two different cities or things from two different cities. specific spicings and styles with those two sausages. God is dead and we have killed him because now because of your because now hot dogs hot dogs are being manufactured all across the globe and they not God is dead. No, I'm saying God is the hot dog. God is the original Frankfurder or Wiener killed any sort of remblance. It's like when people say hamburgers are German. It's like, no, they are not. The original recipe for hamburger steak was a literal like bastardization in an American cookbook about a German dish. But anyway it's like I'm saying hot dogs now have so little to do with a traditional sausage of Vienna or Frankfurt And because they are now, I mean, you get hot dogs manufactured in South Africa, right that have sort of their own mild spicing patterns. Do you think the Bar S hot dog is going like, h what is a traditional spicing pattern? Bar S hot doog? Whatays What does that even mean? You know Bar S? No. Look at the brand Bar S. This to me is this is hot dogs that I grew up on. Bar Bar S hot dogs. Bar S is the brand They they were sold to the nine nine ccent store This is a hot dog that I grew up microwving Yeah, poor people hot dogs. such poor people hot. But like an Oscar Mer tastes so different from Heibernadi, you know, from have ANH right now is so good. NH is great. Billally. He put me ono A He put me on I don't knowbody putull me onto A You have sparked a a good discussion though, than you. I'm gonna to do some research on sausages later because of you And that's the real ticket. Oh, we didn't even talk about the Costco stuff that we learned from her. That was interesting. Thankk you loveves a lot of cheese, dude. That's a lot of cheuice. Okay, next Wow, what a What an intro. Thank you for that. What's up? He I'm Hoby from San Mrgis, Texas surviving I usually don't call but I have You' probably honestly an abomination no they.' so cute. have a snack choice. s iceberg lettuce and sour cream. that's the perfect Refreshing like flavor, you know? It's like ely meaty, like tacos or like Soft d or like, you know I like lettuce and sour cream. so good. All right, thank y'all. It It's so fun. I love you too. I love you, A you. I think what Javi's done is he's found a flavor association. Yes with an entire dish. Yes. deceided that he can just isolate that to sort of like Pits Madeles. to sort of trigger that memory of eating like a flaouta or something Madelinees. canan you please explain to the people what Pruces Madeeline is? Bruce just wrote a really beautiful essay about the way that the Madeelinees of his childhood in ignited he sort of taste and sense memory that was able to sort of bring him through all sorts of places. wonderful, wonderful little read Um, But I think this is the sort of like The Socratic form of first Meds You have found the thing that brings you joy. Congratulations. enjoy it. I am no longer yucking people's yum I love that for you. Is this a new change from being a mother No I don't think so. just I think you know, we've spent what, five, six years yucking people's yums and honestly I feel like we've never yucked people'sums out. Oh, honey, we have been brutal to. We' been brutal. honey. we have been. I've always been the open minded. We've like tried We are both very open minded people and I really like that about us myimes we are bitches. butter, onion and salami sandwiches but you're a big bitch. And you know what? But this, I understand why you're doing it and it is a very refreshing flavor and it is very light and crispy And if it reminds you of eating floutters without necessarily getting floutters commend you take this one out, Ketchup in bread, Hmburgers. reminds of hamburgers ude I was a kid, I was seeing ketch up a bread becausecause it remind of hamburger. Dude, I had my brother had like a cookout And it was an imprompt to cookout with like just like ree four people and it was the greatest thing I've ever done. You spent like an hour and a half there, you cook up some burgers. time I had, Ma' imppromptu. Like just like, hey, come over Just grilling up some burgers. Grill up some burgers. We also bought two ribeyes, bone and ribeyes, literally like maybe like three inches. That's fun. Cook those up. That's fun. Greatest time I've ever had. I want to get, man, I haven't had a good charcoal grilled backyard burger in a long time. Be every time if I ever ask no, who use charcoal. I want to use charcoal I want the taste of the who does that? No one Wh I need to do that? Do you have a gril?, I can't do trouggle. I have a gas gril outside, but gask gri burgers that's the point, you know Well, I had fun because I was with people I loved. Yeah, but I don't wantan to have fun with people I love. I at this point in my life do not want to talk to anybody. Oh, stop it. What I do want to do Stop it. love do wantan to do. Now I love Jumbo's C cldro room. It's an artistic institution in Los Angeles. D' telling people you go there so much. peopleeople I going associate that with you. I would be happy to. They're artists. But I what charcoal gilled beef ould that be your dancer name? Yes. Chocolate dancer Hey's time for one more look.. on! Come on. It's you go I can tell it, I can tell I can feel it. Hi, Josh and Nicole. This is DJ from Good old Burbank, California.. I don't have an opinion casserole. I just wanted to call in because Josh has brought it up like three times on both the podcast and other Mystical kitchen videos U I'm sorry that I called out your Fall River flub I my gosh. cause you this trauma, but clely no. It's lingering with you. so I hope we can move past it. I love you. I beef. What does everybody love you? We should I love everybody. should I should come on we should honestly just use this podcast as a way for me to sort of apologize foring. What is DJ talking about? DJ is talking about in an episode that we did with Ben Ebrell from Sorted Food, We where we do like You know four real regional or three real regional foods in one fake one. We had the Chow Main sandwich from Fall River, Massachusetts. not I said River Falls. River Falls is University of Wisconsin River Falls is where I didn't almost go there. But the coach at University of Minnesota was trying to convince me to go there. Oh cute. After two years and then transferred to University of Minnesota. and then I ended up UC Santa Barbara and said. Thankhead for that. I had Wisconsin River Falls on the brain. and then I said that instead of Fall River, Massachusetts. Also, I said and I still don't know the difference between because New England is all the same to me and I apologize for that But I said that I believe I said that it was fififty miles north of Boston But apparently, if you go fifty miles north of Boston, Y are is no longer anywhere close to Massachusetts. Apparently is fifty miles south of Boston. I fudge that. I fudge that entirely. Another thing I fudgge really badly. I said Poland was a part of the Soviet Union. It was never officially a Soviet state. It fought hard to retain its independence. It was a communist republic and very culturally Soviet in a lot of ways. Some people would even go so far as to say a puppet state. But Poland did retain its independence and I said it was part of the Soviet Union, and I apologize very deeply for that What other things have I gotten like really wrong I think you just you gott to do the work. I can't do it now. It's stuff, Logan do you anything that I've gotten really wrong? No? You get a lot of things right. like I appreciate that. You know what the you know what the key is though? No more social media on my phone at all It's out. I've had to red download Instagram a bunch just to talk to people because sometimes that's my only mode of communication stop looking at comments, no more TikTok, no more Reddit, no more nothing. And so when you're talking about like, I'm sorry we'veused trauma in the Fall iver, the good news is in the future I'm not even gonna to know when I get stuff wrong It's awesome You know, just kind of like showing up doing the thing that you love. I think we all know too much about ourselves Could you imagine if you had like a normal Desk job And and you just had thousands of people Commenting on your performance about it. I know so much of it is what we signed up for in this. I know. I definitely signed up for it small And and if I had a desk job I would not be happy A No, nor I. I think the job that I have is exactly what I need. and if I was When I was on maternity leave, I was telling myself, I don't want to go back to work. I'm so glad that I go to a job that I come to. A saying that? Of course. What do you mean? I was like, I'm so glad that I go to a place around people that are funny and emm empathetic and I enjoy their presence because if I was at a desk job like doing insurance stuff bllow my brains out. Bro, I had a pet smart employee the other day. She was the most God God bless her, God bless her. She was the most miserable person I've ever seen at a job. And obviously T, she was like in a fight with her coworker. And I was literally just there waiting to buy cat food. you know, and I was just I was kind of thinking though, like this just Kell sayst what she Brick and mortar is even just like dead. This Petmart's not doing great. You know what I mean? Yeah Yeah. So anyways, grateful to be here. de dealing with the traumas of my own doing and me getting things wrong. All jobs have pros, all jobs have cons. If it comes down to it and we have to work in a pet somewhere. 'll try our. Hey, if you go work at Mike man. I'll come and work at Petmart with you. You know what I be your manager at Petmart? that's the people that people don't manager now. You should be my managerart. Here's the thing though, like at any point at any point anybody can end up in any situation you know, thank God that I'm here now, but if there's ever a situation where I need to work Somewhere else and do something else, you know, go back to retail or do whatever else. You have to take it head on. You can be sad about it, you can be upset about it. but It's your reality now and don't don't beat yourself up about it. Having a job like Working at Mythical and having a job doing something else is very normal And should and you can celebrate it after you're done crying about it? I had an experience. I was working at the food bank this Sunday and you know chatting with one of the clients who was like getting food there. And you know, she was kind of like asking some questions about the back I was kind of curious and then she was like, Ohh, I used to volunteer here And I was like, o, that's very cool. And I realized like one of the reasons I like volunteering is, you know, I watched, you know, my dad kind of thought he was very stable and had his life figured out. Yeah then he ended up homeless. and we ended up, you know, really relying on food banks. There is a world Especially think about stuff like medical debt, man that can just hit you like a ton of bricks and there's a world in which I could end up needeing food banks as well and wor course that's very true for a lot of Americans. How do we even get on the subject? We're cheese drunk, man. We gotta go. We gotta go. We gotta go On that note, I don't know how we started talking about this, but I'm glad we did. I did too, man. I did too. I'll see y' all next time. We got new episodes every Wednesday. Subscribe to our channel so we can keep working here. If you don't subscribe then we're going to work at Pet Park. And know' to be my man you would be so mean to me. No, no, no, I'm going to be so nice I love'm nice I'm nice I'm nice. In retail, I'm the nicest. I think I I don't think I would kill it. Dude, you should see me out Levi's Chunky jeans out people I was top seller for three months. And I was only there for three months. Did you know that? No, that's really great That's huge true Call us at A three three dog Pod one. Tell us about your former jobs or whatever. I got promoted to to senior guuest senior guest services experience coordinator or something at the catering company really quickly. Wow, really quickly. What are they called? What are they called? It's some sort of like hospitality? Hospitality liaisons, J just like like a person. you really like wait t a little waater. It's an empty t make baskets of muffins Uh If you have an opinion, you're like want to through your doark p on your ex said that. Well, now we' just tell you to go spread the love So we that's how we end every podcast or say go Bother love Spread the love like thousand islands cess bat em mail I like that. Yeah. I a thousand island at a padamount. I put a thousand ison on everything. I ancestry. And that's really what it's about