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From Ranking Celebrity In-N-Out OrdersJun 3, 2026

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Let me get those fries extra light. Oh, lemon pepper on the fries. I'm gonna do a Neapolitan shake two putt patties and let's do a couple flying Dutchmans Now order it like a Kardashio. Um what This is a hot dog is a sand Sandwich. Ketchup is a smoothie. Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what? That makes no sense. Hot dog is a sandich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What Welcome to our podcast. A Hot Dog is the Sandwich, The show, We break down the world's biggest food debates. I'm your host, Kosh Kardashian And I'm your host, Nicole Enidi That actually could probably exist. An Iudian, ye, I agree that. Weere you talking about the Kardashians, of course, this entire podcast is about, Are they net positive or negative for society You know, I think that's a great question and that should be another podcast, notot one that we do. I think should I think you should go on someone's podcast and Well Ill tell you what, I don't know much about them. I really, really don't. I know know how I mostly know them through NBA players. I know I know their connections to Lamar of them. Yeah. A lot of connections to Tristan Thompson. Uhu. And then there was another Chis Humphries. Chris Humphries. Yes right. They were married for by, I believe seventy six days. Chris Humphries, I don't believe had a very long NBA career. I think he was Who cares? Not as long as Lamar and Tristan. Who cares? Sure. Well, I guess that's my onlyid't C three P C C three P? Yeah, CP Chris Ball CP. Yeah, Didn't CP three date Kendall I really don't know I don't know, canan you fact check me on that one? I feel like Chris Paul has been in a relationship but the point is I don't know what's going on with them exxcept for like occasionally someone will Kendall tried to stop Racism? Racism with Pepsi? Yes. And I think she she did it suuccessful my opinion success. And then Chloe put protein into popcorn. Yeah. And they had somebody called Food God. He was doing all kinds of things. Yeah You want know that's that's all you really want to know. I will say this, but the reason why we brought up the Kardashians in the intro is because we will be eating celebrities in and out orders. Yes. Now if there's one thing you should know about celebrities is they love in and out, especially after they win an award, specifically an Oscar Ala Michael B Jordan, Ala Paul Giamadi.. You will see these lovely winners holding their little Golden statuettes and ordering a number two with a diet Coke. Yes. And so what I did once when I worked at Los Angeles magazine is I camped out at the in and out near where the Oscars are being. The In and out on sunset and I camped out there for about eight hours. that I tried to see if I could see any celebrities, but then there were none of them there because all of the after parties were catered by in and Out So I didn't see a single celebrity. Sorry, man, but yeah, I still took photos of strangers against their will. Almost. You know what? actually, now that the Oscars are normally at the Beverly Hilton, I believe that the closest in and out is actually the one in Westwood on Gailey Oh, I that was my college in and out. That was my college in And I didn't go to college at UCLA. Yeah yeah, fair th, but how many times have we' been drunk in that in and out? fifty. fifty. I I mean, from the ages of sixteen to twenty I mean twenty one to twenty six. I'm drunk I and out. I'm so sure that you and I never crossed path. Maybe we did. Maybe we did. Like. When I was like sixteen and I went to that in and out like one in the morning and I ate two double doubles And then I was still hungry. So I went to the Ralphs and I bought at Ralph's. Yeah, it's a nice Ralph's. And I bought a four pack of Eclaairs and ate them all. The things the way we mistreat our bodies all ages. So this right here, this is Kim Kardashians's go to. Oh my God This is the Kim K's go to. What are you doing? Can't pick up a fry.! Fying my bag. This did it. I hate you. So this is a very simple order. It is a cheeseburger with nothing on it Cheese fries at a vanilla shake. Wait, with nothing on it. Look at it, There's nothing in there There's nothing in there. Not a thing You're horrifying. It and out is not the kind of place where you can get a plain cheeseburger with nothing on it Wait, I've never even seen this before It's actually less sad than I was imagining, but it still looks pretty sad Beause I mean, this is like, um This looks like a frozen APM kind of burger. This is something A five year old would get Interesting I know nothing about Kim Kardashian's taste in food. I don't think she does either She's not a big eater. I don't know. Yeah, you don't say Oh, I do know a connection between Kim Kardashian and a hamburger So, back when Carls Jr. was doing all their sexy ads, right? Oh I love those ads. I used to write a lot about Carl Junr. sex ads because they really like framed a lot of my attraction to food and other things for a long time. I grew up without a lot of role models in my life, and so I really had to look to the television for it. Carlles Junior.. Carlles Juni. Yes Carl C on dude. there was a girls Junior sexy burger ad where Hot women were playing volleyball across the US. Mexican border In an effort for peace? In an effort for peace, but also there was it might have been the El Diablo Thickburger And I don't and it was literally like like Mexican guys and American guys like drinking on either side, looking at each other suspiciously and then deciding, you know what? We both have hot scantily clad chicks and that's cool. Peace man. Anyways, Kim Kardashianace through strength I say peace through hot girls. Kim Kardashian was supposed to have a Carl Jior Burger commercial and apparently they could not get her to eat the burgers sexily enough And so they pivoted on the day to her like eating The cranberry pecan chicken salad I remember I remember you know what I remember from that ad? the dressing drip and how stylized that looked. And I'm like, wow, how did they do that? So that's where my thought was whenever I saw that ad. Can you eat a burger in a sexy Kim Kardashian esqu way I'm first Is this you doing it? I'm going h hold. Oh that was actually He really tugged at it over there. So I'll say this about the Kim Kardashian mual from in and Out It's boring. It's very dairy forward. You know, there's a lot of dairy going on and there's not much else Cese fries are not the way to go in and out. I think that makes the fries worse The priz internet, this has been debated to death. they are kind of objectively not good I think if you distract yourself with enough BS from the animal style fries, which are Thousand island grilled onions They're really caramelized. I. they're very finely minced che They're carbonized onions. They're. They're frizzled onions. But this burger is interesting because I've never just had a plain cheeseburger with no condiments from in N Out. I've never thought about the quality of meat from In N and Out. It's well seasoned. It's well seasoned. It's a very well seasoned. The bun is well toasted. This is like nice. It's good. ye. it's real beef flavor, real cheese flavor, and the toast flavor is actually very, very pleasant I mean, that just shows that the quality or the cook on the meat stands up to itself and it's pretty impressive. You taste a lot of fast food burgers and like DDonald's burger tastes processed Of course their' standard burger. they've gotten better at cooking their QCPs few pieces for parents But this um this is interesting Aain It's a fun way to meditate on the flavor of a hamburger without having just like to Michig, which which I do love because that's what I go in and out for I the for is Yeah, I'm almost there to have a salad in a bun with a little meat puck thats it. Same same same. That's to me what a hamburer is, it might not be right. What does this vanilla shake do for you Do it do anything never get a milkshake get in and out. I never get a milksake. never get a milkake. I mean, they're pointless. For me, I'm I mean, let me tell you, I will dabble. Every now and then, what's that one place Shake Shack? Shake Shack has like really good quality dairy, I feel like, or maybe again, it's just like the way that they prepare it I think it's wonderful. Like their' soft serbs and their custards and their concrees, like I'm all about that The shakes don't do for me. Now, in and out milkshakes are it's really sort of the bottom of the barrel. Mellted ice cream. Yeah, well, so the thing about their milkshakes is they have a bunch of chemical thickeners in them. So when it melts, it doesn't get thinner What' that what that is? Yeah, right? It's almost like that shaving cream consistency. There's a lot of ice cream. We I kind of want to do a whole podcast about Hagandas's ice cream. Oh, what is ice cream kindind of because like, so a lot of these ice creams that people love, they're like, oh, this one is so thick and creamy. It's actually just coming from like gelin gum or guar gum or Zanthan gum or carjenin You know, but like when you look at Hagandas and I would generally make excuses for those ice creams by saying like, well, at the industrial level, you need to add those thickeners in. otherwise you're going to get weird melting problems, Yada yada. Pogkandoss is one of the biggest ice cream brands in America in the world, actually. And their vanilla ice cream is like five ingredients 's good It's like milk cream egg, sugar, vanilla, salt And that's it. They have no stabilizers, no thickeners And it's good. I don't care about' proven that they that you don't need the gums in the gels. don't get it. And I think it tastes the best. This isn't from like a clean label health perspective, I mean don I he about that very much. But it just tastes the best. And so I don't know why In N and outut is adding all this chemical thickener to their shake. I don't think it makes it a better product. I think Carls Jr. crazily enough. They started doing hand dip shakes about ten years ago. bestest fast food milkshakes What's the hand dipp shake? You scoop the ice cream, you put the milk in it, you go. Oh, they do it. Oh, that's scoop it, you go You go scoop, you go And then it's a good milkshake What would you rate this meal Two out of ten? I't even a five. C even a five? I mean, it's not my taste, but I appreciate the simplicity of it. If you ask me like, what's the worst in and out hamburger, I'd probably say just like, well, a plain burger on a butun If you ask me what's worstversion of fries I'd say that If you ask me what's the wor thing you put in a cup in and now, I'm saying theill. I give it a five. I think it's so run of the mill standard. Everything is so standard here. There's no fun sauage. It's being standard. I've never seen anybody order a burger like this. Okay, I'm sorry for saying standard. No, you can say, Nicole, you can have your own opinions. I'm sorry I yell at you. But but you think they' wrong opinions, and that makes me sad. I don't you think I'm wrong A youre givingself bin freez?' no, there's no brain freeze to get because it's so thick that you can't get any through the straw. And once it gets to you, it's warm I give it two. I give it two, you're free. And about what about Kim Kardashian? What do you do you give her Arating physically? No, just like all encompassing. I don't want seven. I used to be a Kim Kardashian hater, but then I got a little bit older and I'm like, she's doing her best. I just don't think there's any like virtuousness in that level of of wealth of fame O fame of wealth. I don't think that she's achieved all of these things, increase her happiness or total good. I don't know in the world. I w she's happy I don't know. I don't know we' enough. to know I don't know her enough either, but knowing what I know about general patterns and fame and money, I think there's even research I would go into it. I'd say she's probably Not very happy Did you know that she started as a closet organizer? She organized. She organized rich people's closets? She sure did, and her father was Robert Cardash of the OJ trial thing U I, you know, she's certainly accomplished a lot of things And I think and I hope that's great Is that okay? You did great. D I walk the fence enough for not get mad at me? We are going to try another celebrity's order. it. I love it Look, a lot of us have tried learning another language before, but knowing a few phrases isn't the same as a real conversation as erd. That's why I'm so excited about Rosetta Stone's Spphire Al always wanted to learn Italian to travel, but generic apps just don't stick. 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You'll get unlimited access to all twenty five Rosetta Stone languages plus all the new saapphire learning tools. Visit Rosettaestone. com slash hot doog to redeem twenty percent off. That's rosettaestone. com slash hot doog and start learning a language for real Next up is Zendayas's. Hell, yes. This is just a grill. I think I know something about Zendaya's dietary preferences go ahead. What's up? I believe Zendea is a longtime vegetarian. Correct. And this is grilled cheese with grilled onions and extra spread Simple delicious. I wouldn rather have this than a plain cheese burger for min out. Okay. so Let's talk about the grilled cheese. I used to be a grilled cheese connoisseur in and out. It was the only thing I would get. Not because I didn't like the meat or I was like vegetarian or kosher. I just loveved the way it tasted. The like marriage of the cheese with the spread It'simal It's animal styled toast. It's animal styled toast. It's wonderful. And the crunchy veg. Oh, it just did so much for me when I was a puck I didn't eat a meatpuck. I grew up going to in and out with so many South Asian people who did not eat beef or meat in gener. For religious purposes? Yeah, well religious, but then just sort of cultural. So like my I was big in the South Asian a capella community we basy LA. What? A capella. My roommate, Shiva Ramaurthi was the lead soloist for Naya amana UCLA's premier South Asian A capella group, and I was there ry And I would say pitch perfect? Yeah, dude, but like but sou but all South Asian. So a lot of like kind of Hindi songs, a lot of no dua Yeah but no, why think they probably have some da? They did some contemporary, but it would shift back and forth from traditional So anyways, I'd go in and out with a lot of vegetarians and boy could they saying, God, they were good. I think're be Boxers is Filipino th This is incredible, Laur. I did did not know this? No, I just this is the first time you ever told me about A capella. Quick aside. So I lived with the two Italians, who havees of course I know all about the two. And then Shiv Ram Murthy, who was like, I've known him since middle school. You never told me this. He was in like a lot of the honors classes and stuff like that. You know, probably like top fifteen, twenty students at my high school. just ye like really smart cat. And he was on the tennis team as well Whiz it ping pong. W. I get to school. I end up hitting him up and he's like, yeah I'm looking to leave my apartment So it's me, Shiva and the two Italians And then he's hanging out with a bunch of friends and, you know, they're all South Asian And we're all chatting and they bring up like him his singing. And I went, oh, I didn't know Shiva sings. And they all thought I was joking. They were laughing They like, what And he's like, yeah, so I didn't tell anybody growing up in our hometown, but I'd been like going to India to play music and sing professionally since I was like thirteen every summer. What? And I was like, what And anyways, yeah, he just a professional cararnatic musician? I don't know what I ran into a deep sweing recently. That's so cool. Yeah, but he was like he was like the king. Like he was just, you know, the CA. If you're getting shipped out at thirteen years old to sing professionally, you clearly have a talent. Dude, No, he's a mad talented so any' a lot of fun memories going gri shout out the N Zamana h me. That's so cool. You have the first bite All right, I'm eating the first I'm going to tell people about this spread over here. So there's a lovely little running meme about how people from California eat in and out with their spread. and there's like someone with like a bucket That dips their whole entire like forearm into it to be funny U This is just objectively a really, really good burger sauce. And I don't understand like the weird pseudo hita gets Is there pickles in it? Is there pickles? No You need the pickles to cut through the fattiness of the sauce and the cheese. There's enough pickles in the spread Is there? Yeah. Okay. I trust you Okay I'm gonna go in. I love the in and out spread by the wayude This is ten times better than a plain cheeseburger. You don't even need the meatbck You're right, the pickles are are totally cutting through. Noth this eats like? This is a weird reference a beach sandwich. You like a beach sandwich A sandwich you make on the beach? Well, you kind of make it and bring it to the beach. , so it's made and you bring it that's what I view as a beach sandwich. Okay, because I am all about making sandwiches at the beach Oh I hate that. Why Be if you get sand in it Yes, that's's the worst thing I can happen to a. wasash your hands. What do you mean? It's called a sandwich Hyorr Hy hardartacle, Hy, hardy horr hard. It so funny and cz. shout out to Zendea because you recently made warm eye contact with me And I thought that was really nice. No way. Yeah. so I went to Tom Holland and Berro, his company, which is really good non alcoholic beer. Cool. They hosted a Padel tournament Padel is the pickle ball of Latin America, but it's way more fun.. It's like It's like indoor racquetball meets tennis Sed spekleball. So you can play it off the back wall. It's really fun. I have legitimately joined this is more lore about me. I've officially joined a Padel club Okay, and I'm going to devote my life to the sport. don't Devote your life You have other things going on Not really. No, it's kind of No, you do. you I don't know. You got the show your wife. w wife can play Padel. Is she a part of it? No. Okay.. But I really missed leaning into a sport. But anyways, I was at their pickleball classic and I said, thank you so much for having me and Tom went, Hey, cheers, mate And then Zendaya made a nice warm eye contact with me and How sweet. They were like very much a very regal couple. I'm sure. Yeah yeah. I mean, I'm watching Zendaya on Euphoria right now. Wild ride a great actress she is. Wild ride. does great work. She has great tastes in men Great taste in fast food and great taste in giving Josh more by contact. And I thank you very much for that. Also Zenday or Tomolland. T on the show. Let us make your last mee. this one. Come on the other show. If you want No, one It'll be fine. last. We get ten thousand comments saying ay and or Tom Holland Please come on last meals. We promise that they'll make you a delicious spread of food and also ask appropriate That's not provoking. It's too long. It's really wordy. Yeah. Well, comment below how much you want to see Tom Holland in Sunday. Whaty are you rating this Uh ten Oh my gosh, I'm going gonna give it a n It's a unique point of view. It's such a perfect specialial in and out order. It reminds me of my childhood. Yeah, whichich is honestly, whenever food does that, it's pretty special Next up, Josh, we have Tana Mojo's celebrity In and Out Order because she is a celebrity. Yes. She's a YouTube celeb Yes. My hat keeps falling off. I'm leaving it off. I don't leave it off anymore. I have a question. What? What are the verbs that Tanamojo does on her videos I'm very sorry, I'm not familiar with your game. So I have so I about her Okay. Tanam Mojo is a prominent American internet personality, YouTuber and podcast host known for her candidate storytime vlogs, chaotic brand, and high profile controversies. Rising to fame around twenty fifteen, she built an eight figure empire, including Aventures and Only fans, music, and her own failed cononvention tenan o'clock So most of my entry into Tana Mojo Mojo Yeah, it's spelled Mongu. It's spelled Mjot. Mjot which is French. Monjot French But this is Mojo, Tana Mojo I mean, that's probably through like that's how she to pronounce it. Yeah. She had a convention in I believe twenty eighteen twenty eighteen Is that? Oh my gosh W Monjo maybe who derived from Either it might mean eater like manjot, like someone who likes to eat or mange, which means monk Interesting. Okay wasas this twenty eighteen Tanacon? I believe Tanacon was It was counter prorogramming to VidCOon. Yes. And it seemed like it was it was kind of set up to fail the whole time Well, she didn't think that I don't know. Do you remember if there's a guy a guy in a segue Theres guy in a segay there's guy in a segway A Tanicon, I don't know. It all flashes in my memory But this is her in and out order. Yes, let me tell you what it is. before you dive in or just go ahead and dive in. So this is unsweetened ed tea. A flying Dutchman, a double double mustard fried with ketchup and mustard, add chopped chilies, add chopped caramelized onions, animal fries with chopped chilies, XL I tea. First of all, I've never seen a drink cup this big. No, massive, massive. Im I think I don't know if I knew the In and out had a drink cup that big Ugh, I don't like unsweetened ed tea I love it needs a little bit of lemon Yeah, or a little bit. yeah So what do you feel about flying Dutchmans? Flying Dutchmans, This is a weird thing that An andut does for you can just order pucks with cheese on it and end during The carbophobic yearsars of our Lord in like two thousand four twenty twenty six. Right now There seems to be a popular thing. I remember going through the in and out drive through An Orange County almond mom driving in a yellow H two said The bun is the only thing that's bad for you she ate just fifty grams of saturated f. We didn't know any better. And shez, I know we're all products of our own environment The vlying Dustan, I don't I don't understand Trurely anywhere you can just ask for you can go to Carls Unior, you can say, I had like two burger patties of cheese and they'll find a way to give it to you. Yeah. It's weir that this has a name for me Its whying it's beef and cheese The flying Dutchman onion wrapped is the unsung hero of Yeah, that's fine. I don know. So onion wrapped, you can. You can request it in and out that they take any vegetable they have and turned that into a bun as opposed to the bread So you can get lettce wrapped, you can tomato wrapped, you get onion wrapped. Reminder. We live in California. People are always going to be a little of carpphobic here Because the standards of beauty keep getting higher and higher and higher and higher and we can't keep up. so we have to find ways to be quote unquote, skinnier Sure. And eating like a fricaking pit buull on their birthday, eating a flying Dutchman, just beef and cheese And that does it for people. Well, there's another secret menu item that is meant for dogs called Scooby Snack Hm you go say, give me a scooby snack and they will just give you a beef patty That's very close to the flying Dutchman, which is I would say they're almost the same thing. They're basically the same. Exactly Pit buullll's birthday, Not not the singer pitb, like the dog pit buull. I feel like a pitbll on their birthday. I kind of love this order though. This is sort of like a ball knowers's order Hana Mojo knowose Ball. I regrettably potentially I don't know. the last thing I want is Tanam Mojo to know who I am Why? Maybe you guys can hang out? I don't know. I that part of YouTube scares me so much The one that seems to really thrive off of controversy We stayed somewhat controversy free for like six years, You know what I mean? someomeoneat I'm opening the floodgates. I don I don't want to I don't know That's already, I never really wanted to be. I don't know how to explain this. I never really wanted to be here. canan'ot come on the show. No I never wanted to be here I wanted to tell stories about food And somehow like baby Tena, what are you doing next week? Somehow I end up in this strange world. Come on. I didn't grow up watching YouTube. I don't know what this place is about. And you never watched SpongeBob either so what? I know But I'm saying I just I grew up like reading books and magazines and I thought I was gonna do that. Okay magazines. I don't I know but they didn't have the weird controversies. Some books were controversial No. sure. Yeahah, what am I gonna my Salmon Rushy Take would get me canceled bard of the t Toram I just don't know these people are I'm sor You know who part. I know she is. she parted, but did she like run with a Paul brrother? She was with the Paul brrother. I believe she was engaged to a Paul brrother for like in like a hundred hours or something. Okay I'm gonna to eat this burger because it sounds so delicious. These fries are awesome f to chopped chilies. What's you in our order? Can I eat this first F I'll talk to you guys about mine Mind changes. I went in and out a week ago on Saturday night It was late. And I was kind of looking to flex a little bit So what I got is a double double onions two ways, add chopp chilies, animal fries. and diet Coke I interesting D all that food and diee cat. I only want to die care And I had a nice time, but I kind of regret notot just getting a single cheeseburger with whole grilled onions I think that might just be my favorite. That is so good. What is this now? I will tell you right now. Like I just don't want to get wrong, You know what I mean? I don't wantan to disrespect it. This is an insanely good burger man Hannah You know exactly who you are, baby. , I'm a hugean of my fan now ' gonna be taken out of cot. I love Tana Mojo I mean, I'm in love with Tanamojo. Maybe you guys can get engaged for like an hour. Re cool So her burger is a double double mustard fried with ketchup and mustard add chop chilies add chop caramelized onions. R. And to be fair, I did get this order From her TikTok, likeike she is actively ordering this entire meal TikTok, isn't such a good burger, Josh. wet burger. She's incredible. This is the wettest I've ever had in an Internut burger, which is a compliment. But again, like the spiciness of the mustard is so good You finish that burger Dared Cha like This is a ten out of ten order for me. H not ten out of ten time. You leave no stone unturned. The only thing is instead of an iced tea, I would have done a diet Coke That's it baby A still I got it So good You gotta figured it out, mama Say queen, yes Is that it? Is that? that's it Do you want more food? Do want more hamber? Oh, there's one more. Okay. comeome on For context We just ate lunch. I did' not eat my lunch. I did not eat That's so smart. I ordered my lunch, but I didn't eat it because I'm gonna have it for dinner. I was eating that gl I was going, all over that curry chicken salad G'monna get the other burger now I tell you something I think about a lot. What How your whole body could fit into that if you tried really hard. All cups are reusable, Rh For some people will have like reusable cups or water bottles that they'll just lug around and carry. Why couldn't I just do that with an in and out cut? I mean, it might get, I think it might hold on to bacteria for a long time. What if I don't believe in the germ theory of disease? It's just a theory So you're Christian scientist. Mary Baker, Eddie was right U but I've tried that and I just remember when I was drinking out of an old Campbell soup canan for a while Yeah, you were doing it for the bit. Yeah, I know. but Have you ever thought about just like not doing things with a bit and just living your life? I don't think that we can ever completely dissociate from the bit I think we're all doing things to the b all the time. You know what I mean? I think every clothing choice that we make you know, That's doing it for the bit in one way or another.'s just what you want to be perceived as. Is the bit perception? Always So my intern out order On the regg. No such thing as authenticity That's well youum. sureure Everything's curated. check I think Are you happy? Yeah, You see I die. Yeah. My In and Out order always varies. I'm always chasing perfection. I'm like literally trying to chase the dragon, but the dragon is not there I do find myself More times than not ordering a double double though Double double Bun well done extra sauce, animal style, add extra pickles add a flying Dutchman onion wrap. that's four burger patties, It's a lot of meat. But you the flying dutch on your wp on the side It's like my O'douv I don't get french fries there I like to have the French fries, I like to dip something in ketchup. I diped the flying dutment in ketup. These are well done fries Yes, they are. So this is L chehef Ludo Le Fbre. Fre. This is his in and now order. It's a double double protein style with well done fries. If I were to get any fries, I would get well done fries or light well gun. Bro I was I was there was someone who ordered extra light fries. Ew. You made mashed potatoes. Oh my God, I have never they were so pale and oil logged. It's like it's like that sichuan dish. Yeah. Tosa Tuzo say yeah, that iss what it's called. The shredded potatoes and kind of like raw.,'s so good. It's of the dishes in the world. Yeah, but that's not No. And then these you taste a little bit of oxidation. I like the oxidation flavor. You know? taste just a little bit of it. and they never quite get crispy so much as just a little bit dried out. I like when I find the little nugget that's really, reallyey,ey,e reallyy well done, that makes me feel alive Yeah, that' f that's fair. I do now accept Well done as like an appropriate way to try and save in and out for. Right. Also for people that don't know who Chef Ludo is, he is a very famous chef that has 've done incredible things for the Los Angeles food scene He has a restaurant called Petique To, which has one of the best burgers in L.A. Twameec, which was like a multiple michion ser Twoec, and then Ta family. And Ludo Bird inside the staple center because they refuse to call it cryo crypto. com. Yeah no one calls it that. Nos the crypto. And then this is protein style burger. because he's trying to watch his figure, I guess again. I have a cookbook that has a sexy shirtless photo of him drainging, I believe a tuna. out of the ocean Okay, I'll show it to you. Okay, please do. Yeahah, I have his whose cookbook Also Ludo is this is a little fact I don't know if you know this is the inspiration behind my How to Cook Pokemon Chef personersa What? Yeah, yeah So me kind of like standing there. I didn't want to do a French accent because it'm been too much, But me' kind of standing there like deadyed delivering to the camera, very seriously how I would cook and eat Pokemon. It was because I saw a video of Chef Ludo and he was at Petitois and I feel like I could tell somebody from his PR team or social team. was telling him, hey to do? There is a trend called a butterboard and showed him a couple of videos And reason this video is going. I'm a French chef, of course, we eat a lot of butter in France. I understand there's a F called a butter board and France, we did not put the butter on a board, but today I suppose we will do this. And then he just like spreads butter on a board and puts like mald and salt on it goes He says being at but table. He's so saying, he's like trying his best. he's a fantastic chef. and he's a fantastic chef. I want to eat his scargo real bad How were How do you feel? I like the salad. It's just a salad. It's a handheld salad I think I'm learning People us Simps raning out, and you're not wrong We're not wrong I' a simim for it and out I'm a simimp for it and out I have so many fond childhood memories. When I won the fourth grade SVSD recreational basketball championship. We went to in and out I have happy memories with it that you probably don't have unless you do have them, in which case you understand how I feel about them I love seeing the different ways that people Eat and interpreter and now. I don't think there's any wrong way to eat it. Unless you're Krash. Unless you're k Krashcause that iss a really wrong way to eat it, man This one is delicious I value The freshness And I love the raw onion. I find this to be absolutely delicious. and I echo your statement. There's no wrong way to in and out. If you're happy going through that drive through, orre sitting at that restaurant You're finding joy, you're finding happiness If you're a drunk teen, There's way worse thing you could be doing. If you're drun anyw in a parking lot I'd rather they be doing it where I can see them than in the shadows You should be at the intern out parking lot Not driving. You're gonna to be a good dad one day. Not driving. I'll drive them through the internet drive through. You're gonna be a good dad. Yeah. I think you're gonna be a good dad too I am a good doy was a good dad I'm gonna give this a eight point five out of ten because I missed a bun baby. We Mo see You know when the weather finally gets nice and suddenly you just want to be outside all the time exactly why I lean on Instacart. It honestly gives me so much of my time back I can put together my whole list, fresh produce, snacks, stuff for grilling, and set my preferences so the quality is exactly what I want without ever having to run to the store I use delivery through Instac cart for everything from L Mute Barbecue plans to just restocking during my busy week The best part is how easy it is. Like I can place an order in the morning and keep my day moving Knowing everything is handled. It makes those spontaneous summer plans way less stressful because I don't have to choose between being prepared and actually enjoying my time. It's pretty awesome Instacart brings convenience, quality and ease right to your door So you can focus on what matters most. Download the Instacart app now and get groceries just how you like Ready to soundtrack your summer? 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It's just like crackking and crackking you know what I mean But we've heard reunited, say. And now it's time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the universe. That means it's time for the little segment we call Pinions are like casserooles My opinion is that Celsius is rules and it makes me feel alive I also have five hour energy shuts. because you can take them to TSA you can put them in your pockets. sometometimes Check this out. what I do phones is all well I'm talking. I'll wear cargo pants and I'll just line all my pockets of five hour energy shots and walk around and then I'll go, I'm tired. and I go notot anymore. Sounds like an ad Sounds like you're doing an ad. How's it going guys? This is Glen. I am from Texas. and so of course, as a Texan, it pains me when people dont talk trash about Wberurger That being said, I completely you know, concede that A lot of it is not special, but I do want to say when people say, o, in and out completely superior to Waterburger or people who aren't from Texas or aren't from the South, tryry Wburger for the first time and say Oh, I tried, it wasn't good. I always asked what did you get And I will say if you're getting just like a regular burger, just like the number one Yeah, probablyably not going to be anything super special. I don't think a lot of fast food burgers if you just get you know at each cheese in the regular toppings, I don't think there's a ton there I will say somethingomething like the spicy Bacon burger. or the Buffalo Rpe chicken strip sandwich. those things I think are superior. to a lot of other fast food items, including most, if not all of what In N Out has to offer. That is all. I said when I saided goodoodbye. Let me address this point by point. When he says most if not all of what In N Out has to offer, Nicole, can you tell me what In N Out offers A number one, a number two, a number three. And even those are just this is just a burger, a burger with cheese, and then two burger with two cheese. Like ye. That's the thing that we're talking. And a hot chocolate. Yeah, inexplicably. And the coffee. I love getting a black coffee in or and out, but that's the thing is they make hamburgers, right They don't have any other things. So When people are comparing in and out to Wberurger In N Out is a restaurant that makes hamburgers. You go to Waterburger, you get a hamburger. It is not as good. I've eaten so many different things from the waterburger menu. I've never had it. still to this day. I the Texas Chick Got the chicken biscuit. My problem is I'm mostly going to Waterburger at two in the morning I've never gone during like when the A squad is there, but here's the thing in and A squad. You know what I mean? The A team But in and outut always tastes the same. They're remarkably consistent because they only have they effectively have one item.'s called a cheeseburger You know And you can gus it up a couple different ways. I think Ditto, Shake Shack has a couple more Frankly the original Shakeshack menu started as that. They kind of just have a cheeseburger You know, now you I got chicken sandwich or the chicken sandwich can much later. But the menu exists, but the cool thing about in and Out is it allows you to customize to your heart's content But also within the framework of them being very consistent and only focusing on one thing. Yes, yes. This is true, of course. You couldn' customize at Waterburger because they're like, well, while I'm worried about mustard grill your patty. I also have to drop this buffalo chicken strip sandwich over it. Yeah, but they're They're not contemporaries at all. Right? Like Whataburger and Jack in the box are contemporaries. Sure. Yes. You should judge Whataburger against Jack in the box You know what I mean? Inn and out frankly, has no contemporaries, which is really fascinating to. People talk about Innet vers shhakehack. Shakeshack started fifty years after Innet. Yeah they have chicken on the menu. I mean, they have chicken on the menu. You know, there' a sit down. they offer beer at Shake Shack. Find me place that just makes burgers and then we can talk Iree. it'suffough there's Internet truly doeses Innet have any contemporaries? None come to mind We ont some to mind and what started around that time because in and out started at the same time as McDonalds as Burger King as White Castle as all these other big chains But what has like stayed to form without investment, without, you know, letting private equity take over, without merging In and out It's just in and out. there's nobody else I can think. betterter for worse, yeah, than not. sureure yeah. Yeah. Yeahah. The patty mel The Whatburer they have like a patty met, this is nice. I'll give them that Hi, my name is Erin and I'm listening to your most recent episode about testing Viral food hack. Thanks for watching. appppreciate. Josh, you didn't finish your recipe. Oh for the cornlict bark that you andntil you make I want to know You said I lay down a layer of chocolate. Lay it down and then yout finish the recipe. Oh I want to know, do you put you're gonna be really disappointed. D? Do you put Uh Nut, tellell me more You're gonna be so disappointed at me finishing this recipe. So the recipe from our chocolate corn fllake bark. As you said, I said lay down some melted chocolate in a little budtle And then my next move is I put some cornflakes on it That's it. Well, to be fair, it is a chocolate corn flake bark and all you need are chocolate plus X to make a bark. So's say. Actually, okay, sos that Julia is a bit of a purist but what I would do this and sometimes we get a little crazy with is I will lay down cut bana into coins, mayaybe a couple banas and coins. I have a plastic cutting board that's like Yeah, big around. You use plastic cutting boards? Yeah, I switch to plastic cutting board. You switch too plastic Yeah, ye why? was that bad? Because everyone's doing the opposite. I don't know, dude, the kids are like quitting vaping to go back to cigarettes now. I don't know what's going on. I just plash. I can't believe you swalled a plastic cutting board. Wait, Why are people switching away from it Because of microplastics. What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean? You can just eat plastic. It's fine. You're gonna be fine. a dropping testosterone? I don't know. You're gonna find microplastics in your botles. Dude, I have everything in my ballles. So anyways, what does it basically be After I finished storing the pee in the balls, what I do is I cut a banana into coins, make sure you get extra microplastics on it. And then I lay that out in a grid And then I drizzle chocolate on that. And then what I do is I microwave some peanut butter In a plastic bowl in a plastic bin. And then I drizzle the peanut butter on top of the choc. P plastic. makeake sure it plast plastic. Soast How does everybody just know, listen, I eat a balanced diet, I do an hour of cardio every day. Like leave me the fuck alone. You have You know what I mean? Everybody there's new things all the time. a card's worth of microlastic Theres new things All the time where people are just like, you can't do this. just like leave me alone. I'm eating the goddamn banana It's fine. I eat fresh fruits and vegetables I do cardio, I give to charity. Leave me alone about microplastics. I'm talking to my friend about the bark Bananas, melts and chocolate It drizz, melted peanut butter, becauseuse that's way it can drizle but it gets hard again P corn flakes on top of that sea salt. booom, put that in the freezer for twenty minutes. Oh. Oh nice.onna peel it off and with something to hold. Oh, you should put some dates. You should flat on some dates and then put it on there. No, but thank you. My problem I'll tell you exactly.. I know why, 'cause they make your teeth hurt because they get.' not just becausecause I have soft teet. It's not just because I have soft teeth.. the dates are too hard. My teeth are not too soft. The dates when you refrigerate them are too hard. Exactly that's what I was saying when you refrigerate the beginning. It's notact soft teeth. It is becausecause you have soft teeth should ent this morning. runll out and get dentures. I have check this out. I get about five different kinds of dried fruit in my pantry right now.. lotots of flex on them. But I do. So I have dates. I got dried figs. I have golden raisins And then I have I bought this at the store on a work. It's maybe the best product to ever exist It's ocean spray dried cranberries, but with blueberry lemon flavoring added to them. Oh So it' was like crystal light. They are candy flavored crazins. G And they are suugar free. Wonderful. No, they're so sugar free. They' sugar free. There's as much sugar as candy And it tastes like candy. I think they just made candy. But they're so good B a handful of them every night, Teth hurt. so sugar, teeth hurtome. Have you ever thought about just truly, just pulling out every single one got prins also. I know you love prs.. Just pull out all your teeth and then just get dentures. What is stopping you from getting dentures? Yes, the back of your phone says I' love. Yeah That that's my phone in the office. Oh, you traveled without you What stopping me from get dentures? I don't know, man My teeth are fine. I think they hurt you. No, not like on a day to day Like a little bit I think I can save them though. I can save the people Oh, do you sensidine? Like a dentist. If you're teeter s s Maroni had a Sensidine partnership. Oh, of course, you make super acidic food? Yeah, there I remember say Ostrich wings Oh that We' been Ostar twings for Sensudine five years ago. Times were different. Times were different back then I think there's more people don wantna? Yeah, yeah. it tell Yeah, sure, sure sure Hey, Joshu, Nicole. This is Nicole from Missri. This from Miss. My You're stuck in a win turbind mister huntone who really loves ice cream, but also enjoys eating so healthy Tramy is the best ad.. . Are you watching Twister? In the eye of the storm. Nicole from Missouri is in the eye of the storm. How be having tornadoes out there? That's the land of Tno Tornado Alley somewhere. Where? Oh okay. I don't know. I was in Missouri. I had tornado drills. The country's like Missouri, I mean not country like in the state, but go ahead. I. It's like Missouri and like Kansas and like the Dakotas. Why don't they just get like absorbed by like another state? So like it's just like a bigger state Like, you know what I'm saying? Like Nope who lives? So like, yeah, Sou Dakota has an equal amount of senators to California Like, why isn't just pretty upsetting? No, I mean, so if they I mean, I don't know if they merge then they would have less representation in the House Is that why? hasas to do with House Represatives? I sorry, in the Senate. But whatateverbody're saying is white white So there wouldd be no incentive for them to merge, right? But isn't it more land would that would that sort of get that would be more land for the larger governing body. but not South Dakota wouldn't have more land because South Dakota wouldn't exist anym I think it's a good idea. The benefit of collectivization More land For whom? 'cause everyone el com's together. It's less land What are you talking about? South Dakota wouldn't have more land if they merged with North Dakota. They would one big Dakota. then Dakota would have equal amount of land now divided among the same amount of people, and all they would have is less representation. Whatever. a ninja creamy never used it, never going to use it I was a ninja creamy denier until I used it. and then I went, o my God, this is great. So I do what you do Nicole where I couldn't hear her. I couldn't hear what most of you were saying. I'm not even confident your name Nicole. That was the audio quality was bad, but your idea was good which is that Ninjy creamies are awesome because I'll take banas and pr. gu Bananas I love bananas And they make banas are great banas. I' allergic to banas. they make burp but they make mouth burn But I won'top eating banas because they're delicious, and' nutitious. They come from the earth. And um what? Look earth. So does lookana And you should be allowed to smoke something if youew are you chewing on mijuana because it's from the earth? No, but I'm saying I think the less processed foods we can eat probably the better, right? And then people definition of process. with the big food companies want you to say, yes, there's a difference. between eating a Cb of corn and a cheheetah. I lied about the ninj I'm saying I want to try it, but it's so expensive. How much is the ninja hundred dollars It's a lot ofoney What I could do with a but rears in.t you just can do with a vitamix A vitamix a ninja creamy. You know the Vitamix though, is it's yeah, you can. ye, I guess it's probably the same thing. What what you're really doing is you're just kind of freezing stuff and blending it Um, which is great I'm not a big like I don't find myself like eating a lot of frozen treats like that unless they're true fus You know what I mean? Troopy is great. What I do is I Like scooping into ice cream I don't really do. So I'll melt chocolate and I'll cut bananas into coins And then Josh' is getting dentures and then he's never gonna. And then I dip the bananas into the chocolate and then I freeze them so So I make my own due f you know On the notion of like the the volleyball playing of like the hot girls playing volleyball. I'll find this commercial because it's really a favorite dream. Anyways, if you worked on the Carls Jr.'s marketing team, two thousand one till any time Please call us Because our question is what the What are you guys doing man? I think this is the podcast that's gonna get canceled. I hope so. Well, on that note, this is our last everort podcast. We I think this is it. I'm gonna miss doing this with you all the time. I'm Josha Logan And the Kardashians and somehow all of that. But that is all to say. Thank you so much for your patreonage. We buttons Weere're on Patreon now? No.

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