Fermented Cabbage and Global Traditions

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The Hot Dog is the sandwich to the show, you break down the world's biggest food debates Oh, I'm your host, Josh Sherare. I'm host, Colon. And today we' got something very special. We're sort of harkening back to my senior year in high school. What was Josh senior year? O than senior year Other than large. I was large. Well I'll tell you what P part of your personality wasn't it? So I went, let's run through my average weights per year of high school. I'm not do that, but you can go. Freshman year Probably running about two seventy five How tall? and that six two in the same height all of high school I peaked in in like eighth grade. Maybe I grew like a half inch or something. But yeah about two seenty five freshman year, big kid playing football, basketball, trckking field, sophomore year, quit football, dropped fifty five, sixty pounds. went down to like two hundred fifteen hung out there. Maybe about ten pounds heavier junior year. And then I quit all my other sports to decide that I should try and get a shot putting disisccus sewing S scholarship Now I was like, quuickest way to do that, G all my lifts up up, up 're squatting more, we're benching more jumping. Not even Joe just squat bench, deadlift, Olympic lift and do a lot of jumping training. but mass moves mass. So I gain another fifty pounds. So two hundred seventy five down to that two hundred fifteen two twenty five boom Backu like two hundred sixty five probably Oh, you're still going great And I was so strong. Oh yes. And a lot of that was powered by five dollars foot lungs. Wow, that's beautiful. So many calories for dollars. We'd go on our lunch breaks so it was one of the closest places to my high school. Subway has a smell to it, doesn't it? It smells a little bit like if you were to bake bread in a dentist's office. Yes, it has a very sterile antiseptic. Itlor It's almost chlorine yeast. Yes, it's a chlorine yeast smell. Is it inviting to you? No, it's nor. It used to be whenever I was younger, but now it's really off putting to me. There's something about the smell of a subway that's a little bit sickening. Yeah, but a smell of aersey mics.mell of Jersey micses now, that's very inviting. that actually smells. It smells like bread and vinegar and garlic and. So sububway spent a lot of money trying to be more like Jersey Mes. And Jersey Mics spend a lot of money making Jersey mics what Jersey Micses is, whichich is great. Jersey M corporate with all their franchises, they like paid for them to renovate stores, to put meat slicers fresh in view of the windows and stuff like that. I do love that one. Jersey Mikees is really like picking up on the legacy of what Subway sort of tried to do and then got too big to do. know, And so now Subway is kind of trying to both return to form and offering quality, but then being in this weird recession period. I have noticed that with their new value menu, it's definitely recession esque. Yeah. And I see that they're doing six inch sub sandwiches for four doll ninety nine cents. Hardly a snack. And you can't even you can't even customize it either. There's not like you canize. I'm sure you can, but it's just like, it says in like a bunch Whatould you order in the app I ordered these in the app. So these are actually their new protein pockets, which I'm very excited to try. These all'll tout twenty four grams of protein each. That's only half a meal for me Oh reallyally? You want some Greek yogurt? Go to school Wh I just say half a chipotle bel before this would double meat up. Oh so Oh, no, I'm totally good. but I'm saying like for me, this is a new thing. This is a new thing that all fast food is gonna have to compete with. Protein. We're talking about inflation of money. Yes. We need to talk about inflation of protein. I've been doing this for a while. You've been protein maxing s since theot maxing? Well, yeah, but I mean mostly Pe maxing? Not actually now. That's sort of a fun neologism But no, I've been eating a heavy protein diet and I've been lifting pretty consistently. There was probably like a three year period between like twenty three and twenty six where I stopped. And I tried to go like vegetarian. I was vegan for a while. I tried to convince myself that I don't need to lift until I bleed. And that was kind of the worst time in my life. And ever since I got I started listening to different music. I listened to a lot of Little Dragon. I was like, you can be a calm, normal guy. I can't. That's not me. So got love Dragon. What? I do love Little Dragon Yeah, there's a lot of bells and little dr music Yeah, notot anymore though. No now I'm like listening to Vendad and Lift until. I believe the point is is there a point Yeah, protein inflation, man. Yeah, everybody now everybody everyverybody's on this game. You're on this game. rememember that time when you were eating like like carnivore keto or whatever? It was great. I loved it so much. Will I ever do it again I don't know Depends how the chemicals in my head pond to everything else. Yeah, I get. I get that. But do you want to try a protein pocket right now So I've been taking anti anxiety medication. Okay, you wantan to unwrap one of those things makes me so much less motivated to get out and go to the. Oh my God, I know. I kind of miss the anxiety because you feel like everything's going to be okay once you like Work out for two hours. Crazy, right? Yeah What are you gonna do? What's in a protein pocket So this is what the website says. a new grab and go option of more than twenty grams of protein that launch earlier this year, blending real protein. What the fuck are we doing? You know what it looks like? L like a Koschin. It looks a Brazilianin this is a half a burrito. This looks like a Kosina. That looks like half a bad burrito. becausecause that's half a bad burrit. It looks like a cosina Someone on topop chef last night made something look like a Koshini. Look, I'm squeezing it so it looks like aosushina. This is called a protein pocket. Yeah. This is a snack wrap. MDonald's had these for years, so go ahead. Let me finish blending real protein, hand chopped veggies and fan favorite sauces in a soft tortilla wrap Baja chicken, peppercorn ranch chicken, and Italian trio It's a snack wp. Why depressed about this. I'm not depressed about it. They're trying to get asses in the door, man. Giveem some. I don't know. protein What's this called protein pocket? It's a protein pocket my nickname in high school That's what my husband calls me if he has it Everybody hasn't seen me for a while. What the hell is this? I don't know, man. It's a protein pocket. How do you feel about the delivery mechanism? It's a bummer. Oh, it's a bummer.'s a bummer. Oh, it makes you sad. Something tells me, ooh, this has profalone cheese in it. Okay. They're intentionally wrapping it like this. They could just make it into a burrito, but they're intentionally. Just leaving this sort of unfurled? It seems to be a nine inch tortilla. that they're just that's big enough to just wrap into a burrito. Yeah. It looks like was the most efficient shape It's this very odd Like, it's almost like they're trying to do a TikTok hack. They're trying to they're trying to figure out a way to fold a tortilla that has not yet been done so that they can justify calling it a new product. I'm scared to. last person to do that Frankly, it was probablyaco about, Trap supreme And then and then a Puooo ganked it to do their fully loaded casadillas. Oh no. This is a huge mummer, right? I don't like the taste of Subway anymore. Their chicken is just, it tastes like the chicken that they put inside Campbell' soup What happened I don't know Did subway change or did we change Did you ever like Subway though? I like the convenience of sububway And I missed the I thought it was cool that you could like make your own sandwich. you know what I mean You would sit there with your friends after school This one's good The Italian trio was good N h it's just calledld cutch Sandwich the other If you want it Go to a grocery store. Go like get a premade sandwich from a grocery store You know what I mean? They have the little pin It tastes a pinwheel. These little pin whheels that they sell, like, It tastes like a depression pin. G go to a party, you're like a, u You know, not a Super Bowl party, but maybe like a divisional round playoff party Sool party should be getting better food Gov to bes have to division r. he's like,ah I got pin wheels from the Ralphs. They couldn't even griddle the tortilla. They have the like capability, they have the technology. It is such . I'm sorry this podcast started so slow and sad Oh But yeah, it's pretty depressing. What do we do? Sorry. What do we do now? This is all we have to eat. That's it M I'm so sorry. No I'm gonna to go get a BMT? No. No' take what' the for? I think that's the baa chicken that you're eating. And then there's also a peppercorn ranch chicken. The Baja chicken has grilled chicken, Mondereade cheddar, smokey baja Chipotle, lettuce Romama tomatoes and jalapenos. smmells like smoky. Yeah That one's a smoky one. But hey, for someone who's on the go who's probably know a corporate baddy wants, you know Get their protein in. This is a great option. Get it Get a thing of planters peanuts and keep it in the backseat of your car so you can find real food. Like that's what I do. Do you think do you think Subway has any more redeeming qualities to it left? Truly. Like what else do they have to give us as people As consumers You know what they have? Misster Vicky's chips Do they? I think so. I don't think they do. What are you talking about? I somebody's laes Is Subway Lays? Is know. Jersey Mices has Miss Mickeies. Oh my gosh, my brain you. I have just I have drunk the koolate of Jersey Mes so much and I have it so often that I don't even consider Subway. I don't even remember what a sububway looks like on the inside. Do they still have those silly little art pieces with like the onions and the water? Don't like about us This silly little this silly little onion like it's it's like a beautiful still life of Sorry, Im throw up onions they got they got the wettest paintings of onions in subways, Lan. You wouldn't believe it. You wouldn't believe how wet these onions are in the paintings. Wet ass onions. You wouldn't think that water could beat off an onion like that And you go to the subway, holy sh And're watching like a buug's life and they're like drinking the raindrops? Yes. Yeah, that's what's on these onions and the subway paintings I'm looking on eBay. So you watched buug's lifeife as a kid? That's the poofie you watched. I think you watched it in class on. Oh, I also saw ants. Oh, you saw the off brandvers both. Yeah. off brand. It know how. They were militant in ants. Dry this chicken I don't want to. try Nicoel, come on Jeorge Dames. It tastes vegan. It tastes vegan. It looks like Panier. or hallumi cheese. It tastes like Sitan. It tastes like they they've pieced together gluten.. There's no meat flavor. I' back to you if that's okay. Thank you so much It's always been like this This iss like the chined chicken We've changed his people. We've changed his people, which I think we've just learned to demand more. Look, that's beautiful. Is that it? Yeah. Honey, that's it. two hundred dollars hundred on eBay. Put it in a bid L and bit on that. We use production mods If we get a vintage subway art piece in the Mythical. I tell you what I saw for sale recently for fif five hundred bucks and Julia would not those are the paintings. Okay. Yeah yeah. Is was it a picture of wasas it a poster of sling blade? No, Oh my go, regular sling blade posther? Oh, I saw one on a garage sale and then I was gonna call you and tell you that I was gonna buy it for you, but it was like four years ago and I didn' it Some folk pay five dollars for a footlg. come f go to jiry M. Oh It was a whole Carls Junior menu board, like drive through Would it illuminate if you plugged it in? I hope I didn't call the ask. What would you have done with it? Put it in on the ceiling above our bed ove our marit of a mirror. Yeah, I don't wantan to see us having sex. I want to see the You want a double pineapple teriyaki thick burger God, that's so depressing. How does chicken get like this? Surely this can't be that much cheaper to make than just like a real chicken b. I really don't know. I really don't know. This really was a bummer And I don't use that terminology. I don't use that word. I never use the word bummer That's a bummer. This is like if a zombie apocalypse happened and you were holed up in a subway and this is like day fifteen, you kind of just start messing around. you're like,, might as well start putting the salami in the tortillas Yeah Um How much of these cost? Gosh, let me check my app really quick and see how much I spent on these. just figure out what's old of this tortilla. I'm sorry, you're so disappointed. It's okay.'s long' stking. Doubled in one part of it. This is their forest, Ham That's their changed changed up the meats but the Forest Ham is part of the Italian trio. Correct. It looks like the they're all six dollars ninety fiveents. So it's seven bucks So it's not the wor. Is it seven dollars? Is that a lot People pay seven dollars for this Is it a lot? Eat plantters peanuts so you can get home and eat eggs You gallon eggs, dozen eggs is what? F dollars? A gallon of eggs, ladies and gentlemen. Tix of those eggs That's two dollars and fifty cents. Oh my gosh, a Turkey and ranch delight from Subway's fifteen dollars and nineteen cents B Subway. God damnit, what are we doing? How are people affording to live? Subway Come on, man You got to figure it out. I got organic parts Organic perchop, six dollars ninety nine cents a pound This is crazy. It mean mean We or grams of protein per pound. The price dollars ions has gotten so insane. You know how much you know how long I cooked for yesterday Four hours, six and a half Six and a half hours I cooked. Josh not everyone has that privilege though. Yeah. Let me see your screen time. Oh, let me see your screen time. How much time are you spending scrolling Food, It's good for you. Scrolling is bad. It makes you feel bad. It makes you feel bad. You can listen to people Oh need time to relax ' I'm stred. No, it stresses you out more. Listenen to audioooks.en. Iistened six hours of audiobook yesterday. Maybe I should listen. I know so much the history of the food netork. I'm gonna listen to audioook. You know what I mean? I'm not to scllmore. I'm gonna list to audioooks, send me good audio books. I w wantna laugh seend me funny audio books. I don't laugh funny books.gh Oh I that my trunk so hard hard Look, a lot of us have tried learning another language before, but knowing a few phrases isn't the same as a real conversation as verd. That's why I'm so excited about Rosetta Stone's Spphire Al always wanted to learn Italian to travel, but generic apps just don't stick. Rosetta Stone, the trusted leader in language learning for over thirty years, just launched Rosetta Stone Sapphire a new app that combines its proven immersion method with the latest innovation in technology to help you learn faster personersalize your lessons and have more fun along the way Sapphire isn't one size fits all. It lets you focus on what you actually want to talk about like food or family. And that's all I want to talk about. Really. 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It's meatball Monday, tuna Tuesday Sweet on in Terioke Wednesday. Turkey Thursday, Forece Ham Friday, BMT Saturday, and spicy Italian Sunday. Spicy Italian Sunday sounds like something on a TV netwk I wasn't allowed to watch when I was a k stars. spicy Italian Sunday with Monica Bui. How how would you fix thatay? Because they tried this their new ham.? I think what I would do tried their new H ham? What do you mean have I tried their new ha? Sbody invented new ham What are you talking about? They invented new hands C Forest Ham S it's Black forest Ham. Black forest Ham Do. But they're coming at just Forest Ham Friday They'd like to believe that you're smart enough to know that the black is implied. Pretty good ham. It's pretty good ham. is't ha. but somehow doesn't save them. You wantan to know why the ham tastes good because it was next to the pepperoni. The ham absorbed some of the pepperoni flavor Josh, should we tell them anedotoe about our lives? Someone got paid for that. Guys, Josh had a Eurovision party at a bar I didn't know that you can't bring babies to bars. So I brought my baby to a bar and the literal bartender was like, you can't be in here. And I'm like, okay, no problem. We'll just step out for a tack and we'll go back in He goes in hand to chest and says I'm so sorry. You're not allowed to be here with the baby you need to leave And I realized He wasn't saying it in like a way, like he's like, Hey. get out. He was like, Hey, you are forever a changed person and your life is different now. you and your husband have different lifestyles and you can't just bring your eightight month old to a bar And, you know I learned a lot from that guy. Next time, have your Eururovision party at your house, please I see, here's the thing. it's a bar and grille. That's what I saw. I thought it was more of a grill than a bar. That's what I saw. That kind of like, But then I saw the sign outside and I'm like, You shouldn't have a grilled cheese on the menu if you don't allow babies in. She would' have loved to munch on a grilled cheese while everyone was doing Yager bumbs. We're doing a lot of yager bumbs. I listening to Bulgaria. Bulgaria saw. Bulgaria did win. I was in a mesh tank top When are you not F. How do you feel about the tortilla? It's really bad Griddle these. Take the extra thirty seconds, put it in the warmer and pull it out. Did you ever read the Flatzas when you were there? No I never had a Fletiza. I always wanted to try it though. Is it prr'ced Fletiza What else would do you pronounce for tiza? F tiza It's not brrown's pizza. Itown's pizza. I think it's fuck pizza Pizzuki. Not pazookki, Pizzuki. It's pazookki. Mr foratizza Sounds like a slurt In Italy. What happened The craziest piece of cartilage just in the middle of the goddamn processed chicken. God, it sucks. I think it sucks. Subway, if you're still eating sububway, you have no respect for yourself. Subway, you have no respect the customers that you are feeding. You have no respect for your employees. Anyone from sububway cororporate. What is the last time you stepp foot inside one of your own stores? They're the most depressing places I've ever been. It's more depressing than walking into a best buuy and the guys working there just go, we don't have anything anymore. And you go, what the heck do you mean you don't have anything anymore You're a store. go I mean, you walk into a subway and they act like they don't know why you're there and you're like, can I get a sandwich? And they're as shocked. They're rude. They're as shocked as you are. you're in the subway to buy a sandwich. Yeah the largest restaurant chain in the history of the world, thirty five thousand locations strong, spread across the world faster than the Mongol hordes And you have all given it How much money did you give Steph Curry When you could have dreamed people to griddle a goddamn tortilla. Josh is about to walk out of this podcast. What are we gonna to do Josh, we are food professionals. I don't mean the Amazon fulfillment centers. I don't know. huh Every subway' thirty five thousand of them. What could what? Free clinics Oh's interesting. What are we going to do with the thirty five thousand subways? Don't worry about that. I'm saying, what do we do about these foods that are in front of us? This is disappointing. I's leing the chicken and its protein? Oh no I don't know, man. this is really sad. Subway I think you guys need to go back to the drawing board Figure out some stuff. They have millions of dollars contracted to people to like think about these things. Yes. they have marketing budgets of the w Wazzoo. they have Food scientists literally working hours and hours and hours and try to create new foods out of what they have already slash, find new vendors and inventory for new creations like this I really think they miss the market and it's depressing. It's so funny because there are Not feel like you need to root for any of these giant multinational corporations, but there is like a nostalgia factor. Of course there whopper Woper Burger King made an incredible Super Bowl commercial where they were like, hey, I'm so I'm so sorry. We know that we suck now and we know exactly how because we did a huge nationwide survey and everybody wrote in and kind of told us exactly why we suck. like with all the new Delivery influx of business. Whoppers are getting crushed more and more. So we changed the packaging to do a box instead of a wrapping Right? likeike my All this stuff, they redesigned their signature item from the ground up and then had an incredible marketing campaign And the thing is is the redesign actually made it better. Like the new oper tastes delicious. Same with Domino's pizza. Same with Domino's pizza did the single best one. And Domino's did that onn the back of a recession, too. sure. That's why they did it. As as they were hurting, Dominos came out with an incredible suite of five dollars items as well. Dominos has since passed pizza. It's like a long road But there are other people that have not rebranded, but like straightened out their brand in ways that Subway, I've just been like watching them flounder for so long And you get into a weird place where When you have so many franchisees like that People are just like fighting for their lives of every store to squeak by on a razor thin margin, right? I mean ye. So it's hard to do big sweeping changes like that When they're like, hey, we know how, you know, it could be somebody that franchised one store and they're using this to pay for the the kids college tuition or something.. You know, hell, it could be a big ass private equity firm. who knows what all these stories are, but like most people don't have the time or patience or ability to take the risk of these big sweeping rebrands. So instead they're just like, ah, Tom Brady likes turkey And then he also did the crypto ads. Well, to be fair, the start of the five dollar foot lo was from a franchisee in Florida He literally said in twenty twenty three, a way to boost sluggish weekend traffic. was by pricing Filag sandwiches out of easy to remember five dollars. No way. Yes. I didn't realize that. mean I think it's just a matter of people getting creative because this is not creative. This is just taking what you already have. and rearranging it in a way that's pretty lazy The thing is I can taste the laziness of The C suite all the way down and it trickles down to these two guys on a podcast eating it and honestly not having a good time It's disappointing, you know, I want there to be more passion and love I mean, do I want someone to love me maybe? I just want something more passionate, like something at least a little bit more thoughtful being given to people. And you know, you guys will always be remembered for the five dollar foot long, they eat fresh Jerd Fogals. like are things that you're going to be remembered for. Put a little bit of extra effort into your marketing campaign. like hire that outside firm that's, you know, a little bit out of budget. L you guys have the money to spend on something that can be a little bit more creative, that can be a little bit more jazzy, that can be cooler cllose seven hundred twenty nine US locations in twenty twenty five. Do you know that? I did not know that. That's really depressing. They used to a couple of years ago, there were twenty two thousand locations in the US. now they're down to nineteen thousand. Yeah. And Jersey M is just eating them up, huh? Jersey Mics, goobble, goobble. I mean, it's just a better product. I mean, the fact that they're slicing it in front of you, it does kind of trick your mind to be like, yeah, this is more legit. But they can't just put a slicer in their stores. You know what I mean? Like that's not a fix for Subway. No, it's not. no. Maybe it's talking to your vendors and getting Better product They need like they need like a Mac Culpa They need they need somebody to come out and me home Steph Curry's not cutting y it. Simone biles No, we need something else. We need them to just kind of wake up and shake up there their business model. What are you trying to do? No? I'm trying to think, sorry I'm playing with Torttie. I'm very tactile man. Wh whatever that me What other What are you finding inspiring right now in the Sandwich world gosh, I love like for example, Joe and the Juice had an incredible tuna sandwich where they basically whipped up tuna whipped up avocado literally like into mousses, spread it on some crunchy bread Put it in a little, what's it called a panini press, and that sandwich shook up the world They did. They have so many Joe and the juices now all over the world now because of that little tuna whipped avocado sandwich. It's crazy. It's so popular now and it's been popular for like two years. You know what I think they need took this out. There was once a sandwich company.ical influencers. They need Alex Cooper and Alex Earl to reconcile over. The beef over a meatball sandwich Monday because there's beef meat well, legally I don't know if they're allowed to say there's beef in meatballs. I God, I wish they made a meatball shitty burrito pocket. Oh my Godd, you would have I could just slurp them out of there like like testicles from a sccrotem It think you were gonna say that. There was once, Nicole. There was once A sandwich shop company that was so innovative that they forced Subway's hand into acquiring new equipment and even changing up the tax model. You know what's coming of their stores because every time you opted for this item at the restaurant, they had to tax you for it, Whas they didn't the cold ones. I'm talking about Qiznos. They brought in toasters And they were such a threat to Subway that Subway then had to start toasting their sandwiches. But now Qiz Do you know why Qiznos succeeded Because of the little rats. Itquiz ourves Isass. G What's the rest? They have a pepper bar. They have a pepper bar You know, what are they called are they called like Rgam Muffins? No, not the ragmuffins. They're called like the wingings or something. That's a font. What are they called? Can you look at up what the little do you know what we're talking about Logan? Not really.os I think they're called the ragmuffin. Look up Quiznos subs ad sccary. Yeah, Kismos suubbs add weird little creatures. They're like little gremlins. They're called like, the raagam Muffins. Not the raagama Now they're called like the wig the wing the wib diffs. The winging the rugmark the The bread winners. The bread winners The dust budnies The D dust bunnies When I look up subway, add's scary No. up. Yeah, Jared, Jared Fogl is the real scary creature. Oh I see I see I see it We out this house O. It Christmas size Sponge mononkeys Sponge mononkeys? They recall called the sponge The Sponge mononkeys We, I think are ready to to return to the advertising. Well, let me tell you on TikTok. Grimise shake. No, let me tell you right now, TikTok Hindsl Hinsl has a TikTok channel that is all like advertising. They're doing the same thing with Nutter butters. Josh, please put that down. It looks radioactive. It is incredible. addvertising is back, Josh. Subbay needs to advertise. Avertise with us. I'll fingure out all your sandwiches. I'll advertise. I know we just podcast. We pooped on you a little bit, but we're here to fix you. Sometimes, sometimes people need tough love, right, Josh? Yeah, it's like Gordon Ramy yells those children That's how we're doing it now because we care about you subway. P usually yellow kids. May yellow kids when we look kids youll be the adult. Exactly Sbody we care about you. Oh God, we want people to do better I want you to do better I think we can do better together as a nation Amen. I don't know subway. You got you gott to figure some stuff out. Call us. We're here to help I know it was hard to listen We're gonna help you out. 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Quaker, official sponsor of FIFA World Cup twenty six Wow, Nicole, they've heard what you and I have say. Now it's time to find out what other wacket is are rattling out in the universe. Time for a little segment Wek call opinions are like casseres Let's rev up that first opinion, Logan.ose things like cigarettes are supposed to relax, you know, it feels relaxing, but you actually know that it's just lighting your nervous system on fire Is it? I nicotine is a simulant, you know? Hi, it's Rylan from Washington State. I was just calling because I'd love to get your take on the big Ube boom that's been happening. I sware all of a sudden the last few months, I've been seeing ube everywhere And not to be that person. my family's Filipino Americans. so we've known about Ube for like a while. now I feel like it's basically the new matcha. I knew you were gonna say that. Yeah were gonna say that. Let know your take. I think the podcast is so slay. I think you're both divas L you I also feel very slay. And I feel like I have a lot to say about this, but you reacted strongly please.or. I believe that Ube is the new matcha in terms of America is sorry, my nose is very stuffy. Maybe I'm allergic to the subway What was I say? Okay. so I think Ube is the new matcha because America's just like exploiting it and putting it in everything to be like, ooh, new bright color to put in your food yum yum, yum, yum yum, And it's really crazy because ube is a beautiful tuber that you find in Filipino cooking and it's just being disrespected But you know what? That's where innovation, you know, there's like It's like innovation happens, but sometimes people take it a little bit too far And I think we might be in a little bit too far category where people like, you know, making frozen Ube pancakes with Boba and them. and stuff like that. Like I don't eat that. I remember eating Green tea ice cream, like matcha ice cream for the first time, probably twenty years ago, mayaybe a little bit more M maybe twenty five years ago, even I would have been like nine, ten years old at like a fifteen dollar lunch, all you eat sushi buffet. and I got grey ice cream at the end of it. and I was like, oh my god. The the little sandwich ones U No, no, no. They would just like ser it in a cup. I think it wass called Onami. I think it was in a mall. They like one day was heavily discounted. God, it was good. know canantuna and the rolls kind of stitch? Oh, sure. you know, not all some of them. Some of them. But anyways, I remember do having having Ube, you know in Orange County probably about twenty years ago and Trends change so fast now that it's just people seeking out a thing that hasn't been heavily And I suppose you could say exploited. defefinitely with Matcha, you see like you know, an actual like changing of the agricultural production cycles of a thousand year old, at least several hundred year old plant Andne that's involved in a lot of ceremoniess with Ube has like a lot of symbolism and You know, ceremony in Filipino culture and none of the ube that they're even eating is like real Ube Ube iss a purple soup potato. It's all weird ube extract and purple food d. Exactly. So it's been bastardized and you put like real ube in a panake that's wonderful. potato pancaakeesbe lat. that much, you know? Oh and an ube it's a potato. It is a potato. Ube latte. Okay, so u Matcha is a heavily flavored leaf. Ube is a potato So it's a wonderful flavor. It's just not a flavor. So what's happening with Ube also is happening with pandan where they're just making an extract out of it and then they're just telling you to put it in cakes and stuff. I've been hearing That Filipino food is the next Korean food fifteen. you got I got five sorry, that didn m thated. When I just went toer Mer, Mancer, finding Filipino restaurant, shout out to the homeie Charles Alalia. Great time.. All the think pieces of it's Filipino food, is the next Korean food, is the next Japanese food, is the next whatever Right? It's just cycling through what haven't we tried to touch and extract any sort of meaning and culture out of, But now it's happening so much faster that you're about to see Ube rise then Ube fall and then I don't know, like corn. H ice tea High ic tea is gonna happen. People are already doing corn milk lattes. Corn milk. Oh, I love, here's the thing, I love corn. I love corn. But no, I love Ube and I love Filipino food. I just had a nice little solo dinner and a glass of wine at a place called La Cita. How was? Chad and Chase Valencia I remember when they were just a pop up in an incubator, there was a culinary incubator owned by Alvin Kilon down there You know, so like I love the Filipino food community specifically. I just had a wonderful half chicken with rice I went after I got my tattoo because I was in so much pain because there's so much more ink on this one than I've ever gotten. that I was like, I need a beer to take the edge off. And there was Lesita and just an oasis Theyays Nicaraguan beer, got a beer, half chicken, glass of pet net. had a conversation with somebody next to me who was also eating alone Got a pavlova with Kalamani, which is maybe the next flavor that's about to be exploited. You know, and just had a wonderful time So like I't know man Trends are going to rise and fall ultimately You know the staying power and the cultural importance of food in your culture, and I think that's what's saying. Hey, Maybe if you're lucky, they'll do your culture next. Where are you at Indonesians? Come on, Iraqis What's next? What's another country? What's that I? What's o, come on, Chad Somalia Come on Madagascar, it's some Malagasi cuisine out there. Chile Chil Chile could be interesting They are common for you. Not a lot ofrazilian exploitation out there Its like great music. Hi, Jhan Nicole. This is Pam from Pittsburgh. loveove the pod. so I want to get down to it. So it's not really an opinion, but it's like a thought process. So in doing a lot of research for wine and how we taste wine, I've learned that like genetic females versus genetic males have a different detection of sugar levels. Al like for example, like women tend to have a lower threshold for tasting sweetness. So I can taste one gram of sweetness where my husband needs like three grams of sugar sweetness. he thinks something sweet So I want to know if like that tracks is like you guys or if you've done any like research, like food testing stuff to see if that's really the case So yeah, that's it. L the pod. Thanks B bye. There might be other factors other than just biology. I mean, kind of like Maybe if someone's a smoker, maybe someone's taking medications, I don't know. I don't know if it's necessarily. I've never seen that. Itally. I've never expericed that anecdotally, like person tasting sweeter because they're a guy. Yeah, I've never like seen that particular research, but I'm always so fascinated with the fact that we can never know each other's experience whatsoever. We even talked did that podcast, what what does water taste like, right? So much that it was just like, in your mouth What's the pH you were spit? And had different pH than I did. And so it's insane. somethingomething like wine where there are billions of dollars at stake in this industry. Of somebody being able to score this a ninety seven instead of a ninety four because they tasted blackberries and petricor and somebody didn't, like it is in my view, Wine is pure fiction straight up it storytelling But in the way that makes sapiens by Yval Harari right argues that one of the reasons people were able to come together and form society is because society is a collective fiction that we all agree we all believe in Money iss a collective fiction that we all believe in. Somehow wine is this collective fiction that we all agree that one bottle goes with another, whereas another I drank a glass of red wine with a chicken recently and somebody was like Rd wine with chicken. It's like, haveave you ever drank or ate anything before? That's like saying you can only drink Coke with a taco instead of a sprite. It's stupid, it's just a drink, man. It's just a drink. And also, there are Billions of people that were getting drunk on rad ceremonial inebriantans That had no access to grapes Japan They were China. Nice, man. Go rip some Baijo Si Joe's Rad, do you go rib some plum one plum. Go drink some pouke, drink some tppache. You know, all these places didn't have grapes for thousands of years. They just let that shit for like. My short answer frankly, I'm kind of on one today so I'm sorry if I'm aggressive. I like it short answer. My short answer to when you're like, o, m it might taste three grams of sugar more. How does that affect? Why? it shouldn't because why is a collective fiction that is utter bullshit. It's so bullshit Wh's crazy M. It's a fun bullshit that we all collect I agree with. It's fun, but that doesn't make it fake is that what you're trying to say You know, I just peopleople find meaning in it I mean, how does it? you meaningine in wine for us? You know what there's not though? Like What tellell me. If I can taste the notes of correctamundo, right? Yeah, sure. Like that's the point of the wine is that you're drinking it generally with family and friends and ceremonially to remind you of something and to parist fact for something. It has nothing to do with the actual notes on your palate You know? Then why do people agree Whenever they taste like not itess of green apple in a what is it? in a Chardonnay I Frederick Brochet's two thousand one study where he just dyed white wine red and and had imcology and Viticulture students at the best wine college in the world. Wine college? We can't literally. I mean in France, it's the University of Konia I don't know orr Bordeux, University of Bordeux I think. Anyway,'s like literally the best wine school. He took the, you know, senior students and he had them taste red wine and then taste a white wine that was dyed red and they just described it as a red wine There you go. That's kind of incredible.ne re reppeer brochet or Frederick brochet. I't to look at therochet study that has' done do that's really incredible. Yeah, it's just and it's not to say they can't, you know, name it, but it's like those kids at the spepelling bee, you know that you know love kids at spepelling. Same it's an act of beautiful rote memorization and being able to access certain you know, can you findy stuff? But like I just it it kills me that there were Billions of people on Eth that never had access to grapes, but somehow we only treat the rotten grape juice as having all this meaning and discerning flavor notes. Sake is kind of getting up there. But if you look at the things that sake has in common with French cuisine and like Italian cuisine, the two probably most famous wine growing areas in the world, right? French and Italian wines are the most coveted. Sure. And then Japanese sake now having that same thing. Those are all the places that are also overrepresented by the Michelin guy because those are the places that we have just inexplicably brought up to have this mystical cultural relationship with the things they consume where we don't think that about Thai people or Vietnamese people. Sure. I feel like could go crazy. Josh can probably taste if a wine has a little bit more sugar than I do I'm sure you can People have called me a super taste. My favorite wine is green Buzzalls I don't have a favorite wine. I mean, I tell your brother that I have a favorite wine, but I don't think it's real I kind of tell him why I like Chenine Blanc. He's like o Oh, I rememered. That's why I brought it. I'm like, cool So nice My brother once made a cab fronk in his laundry room and I liked it Sure Whatever cab fron means, is that the grapes that were used I think so. The names of wines are from the grapes that are used. Not always Really? A lot of the times there are, but not always like ninety nine percent. Sometimes it's the region and I don't know if it's the Grape or the region You know, like I's confusing. I'm so glad I don't care about it Man. Bring back the craft beer movement Bring back give me the thirteen percent triple Belgian IPA Eiriums. Give me that man I a guy the long beard and a trucker hat. You know, got his GI bill from Pendleton openen up a craft brewery in Laolla. Give me a four dollar cocktail mixed poorly and I'll be good. Just put a little umbrella in it for me. I'm good Next opinion All right 's like a guess Weird depressive freaks, sure. Hell hello. this is Lily I am calling not so much with an opinion, but with an inquiry. No. because Cabbage is already a top tier vegetable. Hlly addud Tickling things is brilliant. Kad Sauerkraut absolutely amazing throw it in anything. And then in high school, I discovered kimchi. Yeah, yeah yeah. I eat it practically every day. And finally, when I started dating, my partner he is Salvadorn and I gotroduced Critooito I was gonna say Crito too, you know? I am tired of This slow creep of time, gradually revealing pickled cabbage dishes to me. What other pickled cabbage dishes are there? Oh my I can go consume them. Jadanara I'm it's so funny because you literally named the three that I think about in terms of the Holy Trinity pickled cabbishes, but this is perhapes fermented cabbage. This is now an inquiry for us. It' look so in fary, it's not toorshi Kalam, which is just Torshi cabbage Similar to Jardanera, it's really, really delicious Do that Pickase. Picklees is delicious Oh I love pick lees It has scotchon it now. Has garch Mon it yet? deellicious. What else is there Torshi Kadab. Vietnamese Dang Kaiichua I've never had Vietnamese fermented cabbage. Neither I've typically had like Vietnamese like Any weird Balkan shit Well, no, mean, it's probably just Sauerkraut. So the interesting thing about something like Sauerkraut versus Kimchi and Crtito Even I don't know where Curito comes from But anyways, Suerkraut is two ingredients, right? It's capt in salt. Three, if you include timeym, So it's captun. But like that's, you know, so that's a very like basic concept whereas kimchi, right? When you get like the shrimp paste and the chilies and the garlic. You know, that's a very local specific flavor, but I guess there is also white kimchi as well, which I think. I love white kimchi. No way, dude, I need like a heavy shrimpasty kimchi. Do you like it when it's uber fermented 'cause at my Korean barbecue spot in Gardina They give me the regular kimchi, they g give me the white kimchi and then they give my brother the uber fermented really like it's honestly bubbling in his mouth. It's almost a biohazard. That's how it is. I don't like when it gets too too sour. like I love I love when it plays on like the funk of the shrimp. You know what I mean? But God, there's just there's no bad fermented vegetable But it's really cool how there was this kind diverent evut divergent, convergent evolution. I think divergent ev Divergent, divergent. I think So the idea that something like Kim Cese wrung up completely independently from Sauerkraut The place are like, listen, G got bunch cabbages because they grow pretty easy and they're very they're very sturdygiving. And also it's like wind deead of winter now is going to stop. We got to preserve it salt seems to stop bacteria from growing, but that end and then they're like, oh, this also tastes delicious Right? Because the rise of like glutamic acid from the probiotics potentially. So yeah, I fully agree Pretty much every culture figured out how to ferment. Some sort of vegetable like that. I think it's red I'm just looking at all the cool fermented foods that I don't know about. Villi in Finland. What is Finished veili? It is. Fermented milk product with a velvety malleable texture, various forms of yeast give it a slightly different taste than typical yogurt chesting Conum chin Thin rice noodles made from rice that have been fermented for several days. Yeah. Poi, really want to try poi, whichice fermented? Yeah, which is It's basically like a swallow. It's just a fermented swallow, which is cool. Oh, I mean, I love poi. I've eaten fresh poi that was pounded in the rainw, which was cool as hell. Dude in Hawaii. I want Dude literally was pounding poi on the side of the road and it was raining and he was like, yeah, this is how I want to do that real bad. Aada, which is unripe papaya pickled with vinegar, sugar and salt, yum Achar is that Filipinoar?cause Aachar is used the term Achar Achara is used so many different Mhm It's so cool. There's so many fermented foods I need to eat. Yeah, it's interesting that cabbage became so popular, right? as opposed to. so many other things, but a lot of places like even like Torshi ride is just made with various different things. Torsh' is like a vibe Torsch' is a vibe. What does that mean? Like you're making something a toorschi Yeah, yeah, it's like just pickle, right? Pickling. Yeahah. So it's like you can't pickle beverage Yes, you can toorschi Kalam Torschi Kalam Torschi is the action that you're doing to the calam, which But like in like Northern Europe, like Sauerkraut is the pickle. Certainly the pickle other thing. pickle cucumbers. But like there is a reason that like cabbage and ditto with You know, in you can make cucumber kimchi is a lot of radish kimch, all this stuff but like love radishike cabbage is the main event Yeah in Korea, Germany and then like Curtito and something in El Salvador. Yes. Like cabbage is just another thing you can pickle Yeah in Torsi. Yes. whichich I think is the same thing in like Vietnam. It's like, yes, it's p. do it. It holds. There's something also called Lit in Farsi.'s Pers sorry I can't speak.s it's eggplant. That's like fermented and like pickled and then you chop it up really, really fine And it's like a scoopable eggplantedip. Okay. I just may wit check out. You wantan to show me something? Yeah'm showing Nicole. Show me. phhoto on my phone Hold on Nice rolls. Oh, is that the white sauce? Should have. Yeah those kind of a great. No, I kind of dips up. Are those cordiceceps U maybe oyster mushrooms. It's a little weird. Well I made like an oysterushroom gray for sorry, I'm not gonna yuck your yum Look at I made cab I made stuffed cabbage. No, show them the other picture, show them the other pict. Well, okay, this is before it was baked and I baked it and it was really nice Look it I made like a Like a mushroom, like a mushroom onion kind of. love the color babes. Well, yeah, but that's before it baked. It looked good when it Yeah, do you have a picture of it baked? No, I just I wasn't like, I was just taking them for me. I to show you bit. I know that nothing. C you that No, I was not done. I was not It does wrap. I know it says wrap. I was gonna say something. Wrap it up. I wantanna ferment cabbage leaves and make Kim chap but whole. and then I want to make I wna stuff them. Do it. I'm not stuffing it. That's all I wanted to say. Now you can it Now that you set it to the universees I mean you're gonna do it? Yeah O on that note